Uhm......Holly??? I am outside, drinkin' beer, watching the grill, occasionally glancing at the laptop, and trust me on this one.....I ain't wearin' no panties this afternoon!!!
(LOL!) On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > KIT, > > Oh I understood what you said. I simply stronly disagree with it. > Are YOU attempting to suggest it is Un-American to NOT solve > potentially dangerous situations with firearms? Please take note I did > not suggest either option was Un-American. YOU took it upon yourself > to offer the personal opinion as to what was un-American, not I. > Where the fuck did I even mention law-enforcement officers? > That would be true only if burglers knew, or strongly suspected, the > homeowner had firearms and knew how to use them. You do realize that > the vast majority of burglaries take place when there's no one at home > to use said firearms. In fact burglarizing un-occupied homes is a > common way for criminals to obtain firearms. > > Why do you have your panties all wadded up over the idea that someone > would suggest firearms are not the only, or even the first option, in > dealing with confrontational situations? Why has gotten you so riled > up? I'd HATE to have to kill someone just because I had neither the > skills or inclination to resolve the situation any other way. The > pistol I always carry with me I regard as a LAST RESORT to save me > from serious harm or death. Why would I want to kill a person I did > not absolutely HAVE to? And no, I would not kill a human being over > material property. I have insurance on my property. > > On Jun 21, 2:08 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Once again Holly, > > > > I encourage you to read, and then re-read the posts, so you (and other > > Democrats and far left extremists) can attempt to comprehend and > > understand.....Especially before you get on a board and start making > > inconsequential statements. > > > > Let's review one more time: > > > > Dik said: > > > > "Guns are the lazy solution to problems." > > > > Then, after giving an abridged history lesson regarding firearms in our > > Nation, I made the remark: > > > > "There is nothing lazy about discouraging an attack with firearms Dick, > it > > is the American way! Anything less is un-American!" > > > > Now, what part of my message is it that you don't believe, "I suggested"? > > > > What part of my message is it that you are not fully comprehending? Are > you > > attempting to suggest that it is Un-American for folks to carry firearms > as > > a deterrent? Are you trying to suggest that the purpose of law > enforcement > > officers carrying a gun is not as a deterrent? Do you not believe that > > folks who have firearms in their homes are less likely to be burglarized > > than folks who are unarmed, and if your answer is "Yes"; then don't you > > think this is because of the deterrence factor? > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > KIT, > > > > > Of course they are part of our history, lots of things are. So what? > > > No you didn't just "suggest it". You even went so far as to say > > > anything less than your opinion was "un-American". Firearms should be > > > used as sparingly as possible, you can't recall a bullet once it has > > > been fired. > > > > > On Jun 21, 10:40 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello Holly! > > > > > > Happy Father's Day to you also! > > > > > > Okay, real quick, maybe you can understand this, if I make it simple. > > > > > > Dik suggests that guns are not the answer. In fact, Dik says, "Guns > are > > > the > > > > lazy solution to problems." > > > > > > I suggest to Dik that guns are a part of our history, and have worked > > > well > > > > as a deterrent as well as a negotiating factor for assholes who seem > to > > > be a > > > > little slow, over two hundred years. > > > > > > Dik becomes quiet, Perp proves that my theory is correct by > discussing > > > how > > > > she almost blew away a S.O.B. with a Mossberg. > > > > > > Almost time to fire up the grills here in Tampa Town, but if you have > any > > > > more questions, or if I can clarify anything else for ya, by all > means, > > > give > > > > a Hollar!! > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Hollywood < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > KIT, > > > > > > > Morning Keith, Happy Father's Day. > > > > > > > Oh yes, please do explain to me what your little essay has to do > with > > > > > how rapists pick out their targets. > > > > > I look at a given post and scroll down to the little line that says > > > > > "Show quoted text" to see what that post is responding to. I don't > go > > > > > wandering thru the thread or threads trying to find a post that > maybe, > > > > > might have something to do with it. > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 6:23 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Good Morning Dik, > > > > > > > > Unlike Dick, I tend to believe you. We all have had life > experiences > > > > > where > > > > > > we have options to either master and use our diplomatic > skills.....Or > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > I too have been successful in negotiating a number of tense > > > situations, > > > > > (my > > > > > > story is long and boring!!) but I have also been in situations > where > > > > > one's > > > > > > "diplomatic skills" counted for naught. > > > > > > > > I believe that you too have been in such situations; whether guns > > > were a > > > > > > part or parcel of the scenario or not. Sometimes, a show of > strength > > > and > > > > > > force is the only way to negotiate. > > > > > > > > Hey Holly!! > > > > > > > > Once again, I know that it is difficult for you to comprehend > > > everything > > > > > > that is written on your first reading. I suggest that you go > back, > > > > > re-read > > > > > > Dik's initial comment, and then re-read my post. If there are > > > questions > > > > > > after doing so, then I will be more than happy to try and break > down > > > the > > > > > > history as well as the analogy for you. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:42 AM, RICHARD BROWN < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've watched 15 members of a street gang who were armed with > > > chains, > > > > > > > knives and clubs and wanting to attack me change their minds > after > > > > > > > about two minutes. Five minutes later we parted in good > spirits. > > > > > > > I've watched eight Tiajuana police officers put their guns away > and > > > > > > > remove their roadblock in less than two minutes when they had > been > > > > > > > determined to take me into custody one way or another before I > was > > > > > > > stopped by them. It really is all about mind set. > > > > > > > Dik > > > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 9:25 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > It also has to do with the mindset of the thug. Thugs are > not > > > > > usually > > > > > > > > up to being dissed by someone like the woman you are > postulating > > > - > > > > > and I > > > > > > > > don't believe it for a second unless the thug was a > browbeaten > > > mama's > > > > > > > boy. > > > > > > > > > > RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > > > > > > > I wrote a play about just such a woman. I met her when she > was > > > 75. > > > > > > > > > She was 4;8" tall and blind since birth. I saw her dismiss > a > > > guy > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > was 6:10 and weighed about 300 lbs. wearing a white suit > and a > > > > > power > > > > > > > > > tie. He was literally shaking afterwards and the people > around > > > him > > > > > > > > > were laughing behind their hands. She didn't put up with > any > > > crap > > > > > > > > > from anyone. > > > > > > > > > It has to do with your mind set not the caliber of your > gun. > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > Dik > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 8:56 pm, dick thompson <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> I would bet you are not a sub 5 foot woman weighing about > 85 > > > lb > > > > > > > soaking > > > > > > > > >> wet and with arthritis and osteoporosis either. Supposed > you > > > were > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > >> a woman and a thug tried to break in at 3 AM. Do you > think > > > she > > > > > would > > > > > > > > >> not need a weapon to subdue the thug or would she just > smile > > > and > > > > > sing > > > > > > > > >> Kumbaya to him and he would melt with the glorious aura > of > > > her > > > > > > > > >> personality and hand over his weapon and apologize for > > > bothering > > > > > her > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > >> leave with his head down in disgrace. > > > > > > > > > > >> RICHARD BROWN wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>> Keith, for 35 years I owned and operated an investigation > > > agency > > > > > with > > > > > > > > >>> 12 operatives. We never used guns and we had many of > them > > > > > pointed at > > > > > > > > >>> us. We worked in every neighborhood in southern > California, > > > > > > > including > > > > > > > > >>> Watts. None of us were ever harmed. We knew how to > solve > > > any > > > > > > > > >>> situation without violence. I have faced down 15 men on > two > > > > > > > occasions > > > > > > > > >>> without having to use a gun or resort to violence. I > have > > > stood > > > > > up > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > >>> robbers and murderers without being assaulted. It is not > un- > > > > > > > > >>> American. I am not opposed to others who want to own or > use > > > > > guns. I > > > > > > > > >>> just have never found a need to do so. I have disarmed > two > > > > > visitors > > > > > > > > >>> to our hospital without violence. When we have a Code > Grey I > > > > > arrive > > > > > > > > >>> on the scene and immediately bring the hostile person to > a > > > > > peaceful > > > > > > > > >>> mindset because of my training. I know that most people > find > > > > > this to > > > > > > > > >>> be alien to their experience. Certainly the staff at the > > > > > hospital do > > > > > > > > >>> not understand how I do it, they just know that I can do > it. > > > > > Anyone > > > > > > > > >>> can do it, but they have to surrender the mind set of > > > violence as > > > > > a > > > > > > > > >>> solution to any problem. When they do that, they are > able to > > > see > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >>> obvious solution. > > > > > > > > >>> Sometimes you don't have to kick the machine, just plug > it > > > in. > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > >>> Dik > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Jun 20, 7:55 pm, Keith In Tampa < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Firearms are the foundation of this Nation, as our > > > forefathers > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > in both > > > > > > > > >>>> the Federalist, and Anti-Federalist Papers. All were > pretty > > > > > much > > > > > > > agreed on > > > > > > > > >>>> the purposes of the Second Amendment, which was: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (1) To protect one's family and property against vermin, > > > > > wildlife, > > > > > > > thieves, > > > > > > > > >>>> rogues, bandits, etc.; > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (2) To protect one's family, home and Nation against > > > foreign > > > > > > > invaders; and > > > > > > > > >>>> to act as a deterrent; and most importantly; > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (3) To protect one's family, home, and Nation against a > > > > > tyrannical > > > > > > > > >>>> government, and to act as a deterrent against an out of > > > control > > > > > > > > >>>> government. Those such as Charles Schumer, Nanc > Pelosi, > > > and > > > > > other > > > > > > > far left > > > > > > > > >>>> extremists would do away with this provision of our > > > > > Constitution. > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There is nothing lazy about discouraging an attack with > > > firearms > > > > > > > Dick, it is > > > > > > > > >>>> the American way! Anything less is un-American! > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM, RICHARD BROWN < > > > > > > > > > > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Rapists pickon women who appear weak, timid and > > > vulnerable. > > > > > If a > > > > > > > > >>>>> woman has studied any kind of martial arts, she will > walk > > > and > > > > > carry > > > > > > > > >>>>> herself in a bold and confident > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป > > > > Holly!!TakeNote!!.jpg > > 148KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
