But he has already said he is going to short-cut the Senate and just sign and implement the treaty. slight difference there.
pain wrote: > This is how treaties are made. Just because a leader signs a treaty > doesn't mean it's been implmented. It's up to the legislative body to > retify a treaty. I don't really see the problem. How do you suppose > the Congress approves a treaty before it's been negotiated? > > On 6 Juli, 18:14, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sounds right to me. I don't see where the president can just make the >> treaty without the consent of the US Senate. If I remember right it >> takes both of them to approve the treaties. It is not really a done >> deal if the president signs it unless the senate also approves it. >> Guess they forgot that one. Of course they also tried to forget that >> when it came to Kyoto for a while as the Dems tried to force the US to >> implement a treaty that the Senate never ratified. Looks like another >> one coming along. >> >> *The Constitution Imposes Severe Limits On A President's Treaty-Making >> Powers: * Here's the relevant section >> <http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am...>: >> >> He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the >> Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators >> present concur; >> >> The Obama administration is finding that limitation inconvenient >> <http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat...>, >> and so they are thinking of "temporarily bypassing" >> <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot...> >> the Senate. Not on any important matter, just a little agreement with >> the Russians on limiting nuclear arms. >> >> I looked carefully through the Constitution, and could not find any >> provision that allows a president to bypass, temporarily or otherwise, >> that limit on his treaty-making powers. >> >> Senator Byrd --- among others --- isn't going to like this one little bit. >> - 8:08 AM, 6 July 2009 [link] >> <http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
