OK Fringers, you do realize that Bush Sr. asked school
kids to write IDENTICAL letters in a National speech he gave
to school children.

On Sep 3, 12:53 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>            Holly,
>
>              Why have some schools districts apologized & why has the
> Obama Administration backed off on the message if there was nothing
> controversial or the content was not in question ?
>
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> On Sep 3, 12:41 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > dick,
>
> > Hold up on the hysterical partisan ranting and deal with THIS issue
> > and what you and I have said about it.
>
> > Your talking bullshit and if you'd calm down you'd realize that. I'm
> > not impressed by the Glenn Beck immitation.
> > "They don't tell the teachers what to do" That's right they don't , so
> > what are you riled up about?
> > "They control the Teacher union". Who does and how?
>
> > On Sep 3, 11:01 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Remember all the talk about pragmatism in this president and we were
> > > overreacting last fall before the election?  Look at what this POS admin
> > > has done so far and tell me I am overreacting.  This is a crew who
> > > thinks nothing matters but what they want.  You don't matter, your kids
> > > don't matter, the country doesn't matter; only Zero matters and what he
> > > wants to see done.  They are pulling all the various activities into the
> > > WH with their czars, they are now telling companies how much they can
> > > pay people, they are naming people who are on record as being for
> > > euthanasia and eugenics and doing away with the Hippocratic Oath - and
> > > tell me I am over-reacting?  Open your eyes and see what is really going
> > > on.  Do you think they are doing all this for the laughs and just for
> > > something to do?
>
> > > Now you are changing the slant.  They don't tell the teachers what to do
> > > but they send out the curricula to the teachers and they control the
> > > teachers unions.  What do you think the teacher will do.  I don't have
> > > to do this but if I don't I can kiss goodbye to any chance to get into
> > > admin or get transferred to the good school.  That is the message here.  
> > > Alarmist, hysterical nonsense be damned.  These people are serious about
> > > this krep they are pulling and you sit there and think it is nothing.
>
> > > They pull something, it gets massively complained about, it gets pulled
> > > back and we hear that someone did it without authorization and that
> > > someone gets fired and then given another good job.  Over and over
> > > again.  Their whole MO.  This is the crew that said the returning
> > > military veterans were a threat to the country.  Did you complain about
> > > that one?  Wake up, fool!
>
> > > Hollywood wrote:
> > > > dick,
>
> > > > You are seriously over-reacting and the comparisons of President Obama
> > > > to Hitler, talk of "Brownshirts" etc, is alarmist, hysterical
> > > > nonsense.
>
> > > > I repeat, SHOW ME WHERE ANY TEACHER WILL BE FORCED TO SHOW THIS TO HER/
> > > > HIS CLASS.
>
> > > > On Sep 3, 9:20 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >> I told you before.  I do not want the president asking the children to
> > > >> help him when the message is given in the schools.  What he should be
> > > >> doing is asking the parents to help see that their kids get educated.  
> > > >> Wrong place to reach out to.  It smacks far too much of the personality
> > > >> cult.
>
> > > >> He asks them what they can do for him rather than what they can do to
> > > >> help themselves and their country.  He is not the country.  While I am
> > > >> not a fan of the Kennedy clan, JFK did make a definite point in his
> > > >> speech about ask not.  Zero is making it personal.  That is 
> > > >> specifically
> > > >> the problem I see with this.  The whole thrust of this lesson plan is
> > > >> the problem.  If you cannot see that, then you are ripe for wearing 
> > > >> your
> > > >> uniform and doing your Sieg Heil salute.
>
> > > >> Hollywood wrote:
>
> > > >>> dick,
>
> > > >>> But I did. What specific problems do you have with it?
>
> > > >>> On Sep 2, 7:36 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> you obviously didn't read the study guide that was passed out by the
> > > >>>> Dept of Ed to go along with this speech.
>
> > > >>>> Hollywood wrote:
>
> > > >>>>> d.b.
>
> > > >>>>> WOW, what a terrible thing to do. To actually encourage young people
> > > >>>>> to work hard, set goals for themselves and take responsibility WHY,
> > > >>>>> THAT MAN IS A MONSTER!
>
> > > >>>>> On Sep 2, 7:25 pm, "d.b.baker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>> [Q] - President Barack Obama's plans for a televised back-to-school
> > > >>>>>> address to students next week are drawing fire from some
> > > >>>>>> conservatives, who say he's just trying to indoctrinate them to his
> > > >>>>>> political beliefs.
>
> > > >>>>>> In the Sept. 8 speech, Obama will challenge students to work hard, 
> > > >>>>>> set
> > > >>>>>> goals for their education and take responsibility for their 
> > > >>>>>> learning,
> > > >>>>>> Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a letter to principals.
>
> > > >>>>>> The Education Department is encouraging teachers to create lesson
> > > >>>>>> plans around the speech, using materials provided on the department
> > > >>>>>> website, that urge students to learn about Obama and other
> > > >>>>>> presidents...
>
> > > >>>>>> The chairman of the Florida Republican Party is condemning Obama's
> > > >>>>>> speech as an attempt to "indoctrinate America's children to his
> > > >>>>>> socialist agenda."
>
> > > >>>>>> "The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to
> > > >>>>>> watch the President justify his plans for government-run health 
> > > >>>>>> care,
> > > >>>>>> banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who 
> > > >>>>>> create
> > > >>>>>> jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not 
> > > >>>>>> only
> > > >>>>>> infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans,
> > > >>>>>> while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of 
> > > >>>>>> power,"
> > > >>>>>> Chairman Jim Greer said in a press release.
>
> > > >>>>>> Added conservative talk show host Tammy Bruce, in a Twitter feed:
> > > >>>>>> "Make September 8 Parentally Approved Skip Day. You are your 
> > > >>>>>> child's
> > > >>>>>> moral tutor, not that shady lawyer from Chicago." And conservative
> > > >>>>>> author Michelle Malkin said the lesson plans have a "heavy activist
> > > >>>>>> bent." --http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26711.html
>
> > > >>>>>> Just what the kids need, a serial BS'er stalking their schools.
> > > >>>>>> Besides, aren't the union teachers enough? I mean, how much 
> > > >>>>>> bullshit
> > > >>>>>> can any kid take.
>
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