dick, While you piss your pants over what you think he might, maybe, somehow, sorta "REALLY" mean, IF you look at it a certain way. You see what you want to, you believe what you think confirms your preformed opinions. prejudices and fears.
On Sep 4, 4:28 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > And you pay far too much attention to what he says and not enough to > what he does. > > > > Hollywood wrote: > > dick, > > > YOU do not decide what the POTUS SHOULD say. Thank God. > > > On Sep 4, 11:55 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I have responded several times. You just aren't bright enough to see > >> what is in front of you, I guess. > > >> Just from the MO of Zero, he will say things that skirt the limits of > >> what should be said and then the lesson plans will finish the job of > >> indoctrinating. That way he has deniability and a finger to point at > >> the Dept of Ed if he gets in trouble for the speech. He considers that > >> a win-win. He has been doing that to his own people since he started > >> campaigning. > > >> Loved the comment from the libs that he should have given the speech and > >> then passed out the lesson plans. That way nobody could have > >> complained. Then there was also the comment that Reagan and Bush I both > >> talked to the students. Difference was that they did not send out > >> lesson plans, they talked to actual students and they spoke in one > >> school and CSPAN chose to broadcast the speech. Zero is not doing any > >> of those things. Pure indoctrination. > > >> Hollywood wrote: > > >>> dick, > > >>> Nothing else to say regarding the post of mine you are partially > >>> responding to? > > >>> On Sep 3, 4:07 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html > > >>>> Check the Classroom activities, and the frequently asked questions. > >>>> Sent it before. This is from the Dept of Education. > > >>>> Check what is in the Classroom activities with what was mentioned > >>>> before. They are changing them because of all the complaints about the > >>>> slant that was taken and the pdf might have changed already. > > >>>> Hollywood wrote: > > >>>>> dick, > > >>>>> I don't see a guide from the Education Dept. that you sent. Please > >>>>> send me the link to that again. > > >>>>> ALL lobby organizations send political contributions to political > >>>>> parties, the most to the parties they believe will advance their > >>>>> particular agenda. What would make the Teacher's Union different from > >>>>> a Manufacturer's lobby, or the Agribusiness lobby or anyone else? I'm > >>>>> all for making ANY and ALL contributions ILLEGAL attempts to bribe > >>>>> public officials. > > >>>>> You can claim pretty much anything REALLY means something else if you > >>>>> wish to. proving it is a horse of a different color. > > >>>>> Really? Exactly who is it that controls promotions and transfers > >>>>> within a given school district? Is it the Federal Dept. Of Education? > >>>>> Is it the local school Board? Is it the local Teacher's Union, based > >>>>> on seniority & other factors? Are you trying to tell me that if an > >>>>> individual teacher in St. Louis wishes to transfer to a different > >>>>> school with the St. Luis District the decision is made by the Dept. of > >>>>> Education in Washington, D.C? Is that was you're saying? > > >>>>> On Sep 3, 2:11 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> The guide I sent was from the Dept of Education itself. That is the > >>>>>> one > >>>>>> they sent out originally and the one they are now revising because of > >>>>>> all the complaints. You are not paying any attention at all, are you. > > >>>>>> Why do you think the teachers unions give so much money and assistance > >>>>>> to the administration unless there is a quid pro quo. You really don't > >>>>>> think beyond what the words say to what they are really meaning, do > >>>>>> you. It is like the boss suggest that this section of a report might > >>>>>> need some review. What he is saying is that you need to change that > >>>>>> section. This is the same principle. > > >>>>>> Of course they will not say it is REQUIRED. What they mean though is > >>>>>> that if you want consideration for promotion or transfer to a better > >>>>>> position you had damned well better have the students watch the speech > >>>>>> and you had damned well better follow the curriculum. > > >>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > >>>>>>> dick, > > >>>>>>> Nonesense. > > >>>>>>> I have pointed out that no one has submitted one of these scary lesson > >>>>>>> plan guides.. Only what conservative bloggers, etc. have CLAIMED what > >>>>>>> they consist of and/or REALLY mean. > > >>>>>>> I have pointed out that no teacher is REQUIRED to do jack-shit, only > >>>>>>> suggestions have been made and refuted the usage of the word "forced" > >>>>>>> by conservatives. Haven't seen anyone refute that. > > >>>>>>> I have asked how "they", the Obama administration "controls" the > >>>>>>> teachers unions. No response to that either. > > >>>>>>> No teacher is REQUIRED to even have his/her students watch the speech. > >>>>>>> No one has challenged that statement. > > >>>>>>> On Sep 3, 1:02 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> You have said nothing except that anyone who disagrees with you is > >>>>>>>> talking BS. Personally I think you are the one with the BS. I did > >>>>>>>> deal > >>>>>>>> with the issue very completely but you fail to see what any sane > >>>>>>>> person > >>>>>>>> sees with this admin. > > >>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> dick, > > >>>>>>>>> Hold up on the hysterical partisan ranting and deal with THIS issue > >>>>>>>>> and what you and I have said about it. > > >>>>>>>>> Your talking bullshit and if you'd calm down you'd realize that. I'm > >>>>>>>>> not impressed by the Glenn Beck immitation. > >>>>>>>>> "They don't tell the teachers what to do" That's right they don't , > >>>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>>> what are you riled up about? > >>>>>>>>> "They control the Teacher union". Who does and how? > > >>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 11:01 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> Remember all the talk about pragmatism in this president and we > >>>>>>>>>> were > >>>>>>>>>> overreacting last fall before the election? Look at what this POS > >>>>>>>>>> admin > >>>>>>>>>> has done so far and tell me I am overreacting. This is a crew who > >>>>>>>>>> thinks nothing matters but what they want. You don't matter, your > >>>>>>>>>> kids > >>>>>>>>>> don't matter, the country doesn't matter; only Zero matters and > >>>>>>>>>> what he > >>>>>>>>>> wants to see done. They are pulling all the various activities > >>>>>>>>>> into the > >>>>>>>>>> WH with their czars, they are now telling companies how much they > >>>>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>>> pay people, they are naming people who are on record as being for > >>>>>>>>>> euthanasia and eugenics and doing away with the Hippocratic Oath - > >>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> tell me I am over-reacting? Open your eyes and see what is really > >>>>>>>>>> going > >>>>>>>>>> on. Do you think they are doing all this for the laughs and just > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> something to do? > > >>>>>>>>>> Now you are changing the slant. They don't tell the teachers what > >>>>>>>>>> to do > >>>>>>>>>> but they send out the curricula to the teachers and they control > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> teachers unions. What do you think the teacher will do. I don't > >>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>> to do this but if I don't I can kiss goodbye to any chance to get > >>>>>>>>>> into > >>>>>>>>>> admin or get transferred to the good school. That is the message > >>>>>>>>>> here. > >>>>>>>>>> Alarmist, hysterical nonsense be damned. These people are serious > >>>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>> this krep they are pulling and you sit there and think it is > >>>>>>>>>> nothing. > > >>>>>>>>>> They pull something, it gets massively complained about, it gets > >>>>>>>>>> pulled > >>>>>>>>>> back and we hear that someone did it without authorization and that > >>>>>>>>>> someone gets fired and then given another good job. Over and over > >>>>>>>>>> again. Their whole MO. This is the crew that said the returning > >>>>>>>>>> military veterans were a threat to the country. Did you complain > >>>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>> that one? Wake up, fool! > > >>>>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> dick, > > >>>>>>>>>>> You are seriously over-reacting and the comparisons of President > >>>>>>>>>>> Obama > >>>>>>>>>>> to Hitler, talk of "Brownshirts" etc, is alarmist, hysterical > >>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. > > >>>>>>>>>>> I repeat, SHOW ME WHERE ANY TEACHER WILL BE FORCED TO SHOW THIS > >>>>>>>>>>> TO HER/ > >>>>>>>>>>> HIS CLASS. > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 9:20 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I told you before. I do not want the president asking the > >>>>>>>>>>>> children to > >>>>>>>>>>>> help him when the message is given in the schools. What he > >>>>>>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>>>>>> doing is asking the parents to help see that their kids get > >>>>>>>>>>>> educated. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong place to reach out to. It smacks far too much of the > >>>>>>>>>>>> personality > >>>>>>>>>>>> cult. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> He asks them what they can do for him rather than what they can > >>>>>>>>>>>> do to > >>>>>>>>>>>> help themselves and their country. He is not the country. > >>>>>>>>>>>> While I am > >>>>>>>>>>>> not a fan of the Kennedy clan, JFK did make a definite point in > >>>>>>>>>>>> his > >>>>>>>>>>>> speech about ask not. Zero is making it personal. That is > >>>>>>>>>>>> specifically > >>>>>>>>>>>> the problem I see with this. The whole thrust of this lesson > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan is > >>>>>>>>>>>> the problem. If you cannot see that, then you are ripe for > >>>>>>>>>>>> wearing your > >>>>>>>>>>>> uniform and doing your > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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