Sage2, Hell, i have conservative Republican friends. Dosen't mean I listen to their political advice. I have a athiest friend. Dosen't mean I mlisten to his advice concerning my spiritual life I have a gay friend. Dosen't mean I listen to his advice concerning fucking. Sorry, don't know a Van Jones. BTW, why did that idiot George Bush start using that term for political advisors anyway? I think it's stooopid.
On Sep 4, 9:52 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > Or that he has Marxist friends like Van Jones as one > of his 49 Czars. You know who he is Holly? He's the big brown Marxist > turd who claims to know alot about A holes. > > ****************************************************************************** > > On Sep 4, 7:31 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > dick, > > > Hey, the very WORST thing that can be said about President Obama is > > that sometimes he acts like a Republican. > > > On Sep 4, 6:25 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You are right. > > > > If Holly can't look at what Zero says and what he does and match up and > > > from that infer what he means, then he truly should not attempt to walk > > > and chew gum at the same time. > > > > Sage2 wrote: > > > > Hi Dick, > > > > > What Obama is doing right now is sinking like a rock! > > > > Wonder if Holly knows that ? > > > > > ****************************************************************************** > > > > > On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> And you pay far too much attention to what he says and not enough to > > > >> what he does. > > > > >> Hollywood wrote: > > > > >>> dick, > > > > >>> YOU do not decide what the POTUS SHOULD say. Thank God. > > > > >>> On Sep 4, 11:55 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>> I have responded several times. You just aren't bright enough to see > > > >>>> what is in front of you, I guess. > > > > >>>> Just from the MO of Zero, he will say things that skirt the limits of > > > >>>> what should be said and then the lesson plans will finish the job of > > > >>>> indoctrinating. That way he has deniability and a finger to point at > > > >>>> the Dept of Ed if he gets in trouble for the speech. He considers > > > >>>> that > > > >>>> a win-win. He has been doing that to his own people since he started > > > >>>> campaigning. > > > > >>>> Loved the comment from the libs that he should have given the speech > > > >>>> and > > > >>>> then passed out the lesson plans. That way nobody could have > > > >>>> complained. Then there was also the comment that Reagan and Bush I > > > >>>> both > > > >>>> talked to the students. Difference was that they did not send out > > > >>>> lesson plans, they talked to actual students and they spoke in one > > > >>>> school and CSPAN chose to broadcast the speech. Zero is not doing > > > >>>> any > > > >>>> of those things. Pure indoctrination. > > > > >>>> Hollywood wrote: > > > > >>>>> dick, > > > > >>>>> Nothing else to say regarding the post of mine you are partially > > > >>>>> responding to? > > > > >>>>> On Sep 3, 4:07 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html > > > > >>>>>> Check the Classroom activities, and the frequently asked > > > >>>>>> questions. > > > >>>>>> Sent it before. This is from the Dept of Education. > > > > >>>>>> Check what is in the Classroom activities with what was mentioned > > > >>>>>> before. They are changing them because of all the complaints > > > >>>>>> about the > > > >>>>>> slant that was taken and the pdf might have changed already. > > > > >>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> dick, > > > > >>>>>>> I don't see a guide from the Education Dept. that you sent. Please > > > >>>>>>> send me the link to that again. > > > > >>>>>>> ALL lobby organizations send political contributions to political > > > >>>>>>> parties, the most to the parties they believe will advance their > > > >>>>>>> particular agenda. What would make the Teacher's Union different > > > >>>>>>> from > > > >>>>>>> a Manufacturer's lobby, or the Agribusiness lobby or anyone else? > > > >>>>>>> I'm > > > >>>>>>> all for making ANY and ALL contributions ILLEGAL attempts to bribe > > > >>>>>>> public officials. > > > > >>>>>>> You can claim pretty much anything REALLY means something else if > > > >>>>>>> you > > > >>>>>>> wish to. proving it is a horse of a different color. > > > > >>>>>>> Really? Exactly who is it that controls promotions and transfers > > > >>>>>>> within a given school district? Is it the Federal Dept. Of > > > >>>>>>> Education? > > > >>>>>>> Is it the local school Board? Is it the local Teacher's Union, > > > >>>>>>> based > > > >>>>>>> on seniority & other factors? Are you trying to tell me that if an > > > >>>>>>> individual teacher in St. Louis wishes to transfer to a different > > > >>>>>>> school with the St. Luis District the decision is made by the > > > >>>>>>> Dept. of > > > >>>>>>> Education in Washington, D.C? Is that was you're saying? > > > > >>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2:11 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> The guide I sent was from the Dept of Education itself. That is > > > >>>>>>>> the one > > > >>>>>>>> they sent out originally and the one they are now revising > > > >>>>>>>> because of > > > >>>>>>>> all the complaints. You are not paying any attention at all, > > > >>>>>>>> are you. > > > > >>>>>>>> Why do you think the teachers unions give so much money and > > > >>>>>>>> assistance > > > >>>>>>>> to the administration unless there is a quid pro quo. You > > > >>>>>>>> really don't > > > >>>>>>>> think beyond what the words say to what they are really meaning, > > > >>>>>>>> do > > > >>>>>>>> you. It is like the boss suggest that this section of a report > > > >>>>>>>> might > > > >>>>>>>> need some review. What he is saying is that you need to change > > > >>>>>>>> that > > > >>>>>>>> section. This is the same principle. > > > > >>>>>>>> Of course they will not say it is REQUIRED. What they mean > > > >>>>>>>> though is > > > >>>>>>>> that if you want consideration for promotion or transfer to a > > > >>>>>>>> better > > > >>>>>>>> position you had damned well better have the students watch the > > > >>>>>>>> speech > > > >>>>>>>> and you had damned well better follow the curriculum. > > > > >>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>> dick, > > > > >>>>>>>>> Nonesense. > > > > >>>>>>>>> I have pointed out that no one has submitted one of these scary > > > >>>>>>>>> lesson > > > >>>>>>>>> plan guides.. Only what conservative bloggers, etc. have > > > >>>>>>>>> CLAIMED what > > > >>>>>>>>> they consist of and/or REALLY mean. > > > > >>>>>>>>> I have pointed out that no teacher is REQUIRED to do jack-shit, > > > >>>>>>>>> only > > > >>>>>>>>> suggestions have been made and refuted the usage of the word > > > >>>>>>>>> "forced" > > > >>>>>>>>> by conservatives. Haven't seen anyone refute that. > > > > >>>>>>>>> I have asked how "they", the Obama administration "controls" the > > > >>>>>>>>> teachers unions. No response to that either. > > > > >>>>>>>>> No teacher is REQUIRED to even have his/her students watch the > > > >>>>>>>>> speech. > > > >>>>>>>>> No one has challenged that statement. > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 1:02 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>> You have said nothing except that anyone who disagrees with > > > >>>>>>>>>> you is > > > >>>>>>>>>> talking BS. Personally I think you are the one with the BS. > > > >>>>>>>>>> I did deal > > > >>>>>>>>>> with the issue very completely but you fail to see what any > > > >>>>>>>>>> sane person > > > >>>>>>>>>> sees with this admin. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dick, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hold up on the hysterical partisan ranting and deal with THIS > > > >>>>>>>>>>> issue > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and what you and I have said about it. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Your talking bullshit and if you'd calm down you'd realize > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that. I'm > > > >>>>>>>>>>> not impressed by the Glenn Beck immitation. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "They don't tell the teachers what to do" That's right they > > > >>>>>>>>>>> don't , so > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what are you riled up about? > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "They control the Teacher union". Who does and how? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 11:01 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Remember all the talk about pragmatism in this president and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we were > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> overreacting last fall before the election? Look at what > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> this POS admin > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> has done so far and tell me I am overreacting. This is a > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> crew who > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> thinks nothing matters but what they want. You don't > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> matter, your kids > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> don't matter, the country doesn't matter; only Zero matters > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and what he > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wants to see done. They are pulling all the various > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> activities into the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> WH with their czars, they are now telling companies how much > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> they can > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> pay people, they are naming people who are on record as > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> being for > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> euthanasia and eugenics and doing away with the Hippocratic > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Oath - and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> tell me I am over-reacting? Open your eyes and see what is > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> really going > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> on. Do you think they are doing all this for the laughs and > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just for > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something to do? > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are changing the slant. They don't tell the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> teachers what to do > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but they send out the curricula to the teachers and they > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> control the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> teachers unions. What do you think the teacher will do. I > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> don't have > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to do this but if I don't I can kiss goodbye to any chance > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to get into > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> admin or get transferred to the good school. That is the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> message here. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alarmist, hysterical nonsense be damned. These people are > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> serious about > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> this krep they are pulling and you sit there and think it is > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> nothing. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> They pull something, it gets massively complained about, it > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> gets pulled > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> back and we hear that someone did it without authorization > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and that > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> someone gets fired and then given another good job. Over > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and over > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> again. Their whole MO. This is the crew that said the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> returning > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> military veterans were a threat to the country. Did you > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> complain about > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> that one? Wake up, fool! > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dick, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are seriously over-reacting and the comparisons of > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> President Obama > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to Hitler, talk of "Brownshirts" etc, is alarmist, > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hysterical > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I repeat, SHOW ME WHERE ANY TEACHER WILL > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
