dick,

Hey, the very WORST thing that can be said about President Obama is
that sometimes he acts like a Republican.

On Sep 4, 6:25 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> You are right.
>
> If Holly can't look at what Zero says and what he does and match up and
> from that infer what he means, then he truly should not attempt to walk
> and chew gum at the same time.
>
>
>
> Sage2 wrote:
> >              Hi Dick,
>
> >               What Obama is doing right now is sinking like a rock!
> > Wonder if Holly knows that ?
>
> > ***************************************************************************­***
>
> > On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> And you pay far too much attention to what he says and not enough to
> >> what he does.
>
> >> Hollywood wrote:
>
> >>> dick,
>
> >>> YOU do not decide what the POTUS SHOULD say. Thank God.
>
> >>> On Sep 4, 11:55 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> I have responded several times.  You just aren't bright enough to see
> >>>> what is in front of you, I guess.
>
> >>>> Just from the MO of Zero, he will say things that skirt the limits of
> >>>> what should be said and then the lesson plans will finish the job of
> >>>> indoctrinating.  That way he has deniability and a finger to point at
> >>>> the Dept of Ed if he gets in trouble for the speech.  He considers that
> >>>> a win-win.  He has been doing that to his own people since he started
> >>>> campaigning.
>
> >>>> Loved the comment from the libs that he should have given the speech and
> >>>> then passed out the lesson plans.  That way nobody could have
> >>>> complained.  Then there was also the comment that Reagan and Bush I both
> >>>> talked to the students.  Difference was that they did not send out
> >>>> lesson plans, they talked to actual students and they spoke in one
> >>>> school and CSPAN chose to broadcast the speech.  Zero is not doing any
> >>>> of those things.  Pure indoctrination.
>
> >>>> Hollywood wrote:
>
> >>>>> dick,
>
> >>>>> Nothing else to say regarding the post of mine you are partially
> >>>>> responding to?
>
> >>>>> On Sep 3, 4:07 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html
>
> >>>>>> Check the Classroom activities, and the frequently asked questions.  
> >>>>>> Sent it before. This is from the Dept of Education.
>
> >>>>>> Check what is in the Classroom activities with what was mentioned
> >>>>>> before.  They are changing them because of all the complaints about the
> >>>>>> slant that was taken and the pdf might have changed already.
>
> >>>>>> Hollywood wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> dick,
>
> >>>>>>> I don't see a guide from the Education Dept. that you sent. Please
> >>>>>>> send me the link to that again.
>
> >>>>>>> ALL lobby organizations send political contributions to political
> >>>>>>> parties, the most to the parties they believe will advance their
> >>>>>>> particular agenda. What would make the Teacher's Union different from
> >>>>>>> a Manufacturer's lobby, or the Agribusiness lobby or anyone else? I'm
> >>>>>>> all for making ANY and ALL contributions ILLEGAL attempts to bribe
> >>>>>>> public officials.
>
> >>>>>>> You can claim pretty much anything REALLY means something else if you
> >>>>>>> wish to. proving it is a horse of a different color.
>
> >>>>>>> Really? Exactly who is it that controls promotions and transfers
> >>>>>>> within a given school district? Is it the Federal Dept. Of Education?
> >>>>>>> Is it the local school Board? Is it the local Teacher's Union, based
> >>>>>>> on seniority & other factors? Are you trying to tell me that if an
> >>>>>>> individual teacher in St. Louis wishes to transfer to a different
> >>>>>>> school with the St. Luis District the decision is made by the Dept. of
> >>>>>>> Education in Washington, D.C? Is that was you're saying?
>
> >>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2:11 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> The guide I sent was from the Dept of Education itself.  That is the 
> >>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>> they sent out originally and the one they are now revising because of
> >>>>>>>> all the complaints.  You are not paying any attention at all, are 
> >>>>>>>> you.
>
> >>>>>>>> Why do you think the teachers unions give so much money and 
> >>>>>>>> assistance
> >>>>>>>> to the administration unless there is a quid pro quo.  You really 
> >>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>> think beyond what the words say to what they are really meaning, do
> >>>>>>>> you.  It is like the boss suggest that this section of a report might
> >>>>>>>> need some review.  What he is saying is that you need to change that
> >>>>>>>> section.  This is the same principle.
>
> >>>>>>>> Of course they will not say it is REQUIRED.  What they mean though is
> >>>>>>>> that if you want consideration for promotion or transfer to a better
> >>>>>>>> position you had damned well better have the students watch the 
> >>>>>>>> speech
> >>>>>>>> and you had damned well better follow the curriculum.
>
> >>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> dick,
>
> >>>>>>>>> Nonesense.
>
> >>>>>>>>> I have pointed out that no one has submitted one of these scary 
> >>>>>>>>> lesson
> >>>>>>>>> plan guides.. Only what conservative bloggers, etc. have CLAIMED 
> >>>>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>>> they consist of and/or REALLY mean.
>
> >>>>>>>>> I have pointed out that no teacher is REQUIRED to do jack-shit, only
> >>>>>>>>> suggestions have been made and refuted the usage of the word 
> >>>>>>>>> "forced"
> >>>>>>>>> by conservatives. Haven't seen anyone refute that.
>
> >>>>>>>>> I have asked how "they", the Obama administration "controls" the
> >>>>>>>>> teachers unions. No response to that either.
>
> >>>>>>>>> No teacher is REQUIRED to even have his/her students watch the 
> >>>>>>>>> speech.
> >>>>>>>>> No one has challenged that statement.
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 1:02 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> You have said nothing except that anyone who disagrees with you is
> >>>>>>>>>> talking BS.  Personally I think you are the one with the BS.  I 
> >>>>>>>>>> did deal
> >>>>>>>>>> with the issue very completely but you fail to see what any sane 
> >>>>>>>>>> person
> >>>>>>>>>> sees with this admin.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> dick,
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hold up on the hysterical partisan ranting and deal with THIS 
> >>>>>>>>>>> issue
> >>>>>>>>>>> and what you and I have said about it.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Your talking bullshit and if you'd calm down you'd realize that. 
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>> not impressed by the Glenn Beck immitation.
> >>>>>>>>>>> "They don't tell the teachers what to do" That's right they don't 
> >>>>>>>>>>> , so
> >>>>>>>>>>> what are you riled up about?
> >>>>>>>>>>> "They control the Teacher union". Who does and how?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 11:01 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Remember all the talk about pragmatism in this president and we 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>>>>> overreacting last fall before the election?  Look at what this 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> POS admin
> >>>>>>>>>>>> has done so far and tell me I am overreacting.  This is a crew 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> who
> >>>>>>>>>>>> thinks nothing matters but what they want.  You don't matter, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> your kids
> >>>>>>>>>>>> don't matter, the country doesn't matter; only Zero matters and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> what he
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wants to see done.  They are pulling all the various activities 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> into the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> WH with their czars, they are now telling companies how much 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they can
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pay people, they are naming people who are on record as being for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> euthanasia and eugenics and doing away with the Hippocratic Oath 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tell me I am over-reacting?  Open your eyes and see what is 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> really going
> >>>>>>>>>>>> on.  Do you think they are doing all this for the laughs and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> just for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> something to do?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now you are changing the slant.  They don't tell the teachers 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> what to do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> but they send out the curricula to the teachers and they control 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> teachers unions.  What do you think the teacher will do.  I 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> don't have
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to do this but if I don't I can kiss goodbye to any chance to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> get into
> >>>>>>>>>>>> admin or get transferred to the good school.  That is the 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> message here.  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alarmist, hysterical nonsense be damned.  These people are 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> serious about
> >>>>>>>>>>>> this krep they are pulling and you sit there and think it is 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> They pull something, it gets massively complained about, it gets 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pulled
> >>>>>>>>>>>> back and we hear that someone did it without authorization and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> someone gets fired and then given another good job.  Over and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> over
> >>>>>>>>>>>> again.  Their whole MO.  This is the crew that said the returning
> >>>>>>>>>>>> military veterans were a threat to the country.  Did you 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> complain about
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that one?  Wake up, fool!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> dick,
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are seriously over-reacting and the comparisons of 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> President Obama
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to Hitler, talk of "Brownshirts" etc, is alarmist, hysterical
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I repeat, SHOW ME WHERE ANY TEACHER WILL BE FORCED TO SHOW THIS 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> TO HER/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> HIS CLASS.
>
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