Sage2, No matter what, he is POTUS untill Jan. 20, 2011 and quite probably for 4 years after that. Live with it.
On Sep 4, 5:44 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Dick, > > What Obama is doing right now is sinking like a rock! > Wonder if Holly knows that ? > > ****************************************************************************** > > On Sep 4, 5:28 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > And you pay far too much attention to what he says and not enough to > > what he does. > > > Hollywood wrote: > > > dick, > > > > YOU do not decide what the POTUS SHOULD say. Thank God. > > > > On Sep 4, 11:55 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I have responded several times. You just aren't bright enough to see > > >> what is in front of you, I guess. > > > >> Just from the MO of Zero, he will say things that skirt the limits of > > >> what should be said and then the lesson plans will finish the job of > > >> indoctrinating. That way he has deniability and a finger to point at > > >> the Dept of Ed if he gets in trouble for the speech. He considers that > > >> a win-win. He has been doing that to his own people since he started > > >> campaigning. > > > >> Loved the comment from the libs that he should have given the speech and > > >> then passed out the lesson plans. That way nobody could have > > >> complained. Then there was also the comment that Reagan and Bush I both > > >> talked to the students. Difference was that they did not send out > > >> lesson plans, they talked to actual students and they spoke in one > > >> school and CSPAN chose to broadcast the speech. Zero is not doing any > > >> of those things. Pure indoctrination. > > > >> Hollywood wrote: > > > >>> dick, > > > >>> Nothing else to say regarding the post of mine you are partially > > >>> responding to? > > > >>> On Sep 3, 4:07 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>>http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html > > > >>>> Check the Classroom activities, and the frequently asked questions. > > >>>> Sent it before. This is from the Dept of Education. > > > >>>> Check what is in the Classroom activities with what was mentioned > > >>>> before. They are changing them because of all the complaints about the > > >>>> slant that was taken and the pdf might have changed already. > > > >>>> Hollywood wrote: > > > >>>>> dick, > > > >>>>> I don't see a guide from the Education Dept. that you sent. Please > > >>>>> send me the link to that again. > > > >>>>> ALL lobby organizations send political contributions to political > > >>>>> parties, the most to the parties they believe will advance their > > >>>>> particular agenda. What would make the Teacher's Union different from > > >>>>> a Manufacturer's lobby, or the Agribusiness lobby or anyone else? I'm > > >>>>> all for making ANY and ALL contributions ILLEGAL attempts to bribe > > >>>>> public officials. > > > >>>>> You can claim pretty much anything REALLY means something else if you > > >>>>> wish to. proving it is a horse of a different color. > > > >>>>> Really? Exactly who is it that controls promotions and transfers > > >>>>> within a given school district? Is it the Federal Dept. Of Education? > > >>>>> Is it the local school Board? Is it the local Teacher's Union, based > > >>>>> on seniority & other factors? Are you trying to tell me that if an > > >>>>> individual teacher in St. Louis wishes to transfer to a different > > >>>>> school with the St. Luis District the decision is made by the Dept. of > > >>>>> Education in Washington, D.C? Is that was you're saying? > > > >>>>> On Sep 3, 2:11 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>>>> The guide I sent was from the Dept of Education itself. That is the > > >>>>>> one > > >>>>>> they sent out originally and the one they are now revising because of > > >>>>>> all the complaints. You are not paying any attention at all, are > > >>>>>> you. > > > >>>>>> Why do you think the teachers unions give so much money and > > >>>>>> assistance > > >>>>>> to the administration unless there is a quid pro quo. You really > > >>>>>> don't > > >>>>>> think beyond what the words say to what they are really meaning, do > > >>>>>> you. It is like the boss suggest that this section of a report might > > >>>>>> need some review. What he is saying is that you need to change that > > >>>>>> section. This is the same principle. > > > >>>>>> Of course they will not say it is REQUIRED. What they mean though is > > >>>>>> that if you want consideration for promotion or transfer to a better > > >>>>>> position you had damned well better have the students watch the > > >>>>>> speech > > >>>>>> and you had damned well better follow the curriculum. > > > >>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > > >>>>>>> dick, > > > >>>>>>> Nonesense. > > > >>>>>>> I have pointed out that no one has submitted one of these scary > > >>>>>>> lesson > > >>>>>>> plan guides.. Only what conservative bloggers, etc. have CLAIMED > > >>>>>>> what > > >>>>>>> they consist of and/or REALLY mean. > > > >>>>>>> I have pointed out that no teacher is REQUIRED to do jack-shit, only > > >>>>>>> suggestions have been made and refuted the usage of the word > > >>>>>>> "forced" > > >>>>>>> by conservatives. Haven't seen anyone refute that. > > > >>>>>>> I have asked how "they", the Obama administration "controls" the > > >>>>>>> teachers unions. No response to that either. > > > >>>>>>> No teacher is REQUIRED to even have his/her students watch the > > >>>>>>> speech. > > >>>>>>> No one has challenged that statement. > > > >>>>>>> On Sep 3, 1:02 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> You have said nothing except that anyone who disagrees with you is > > >>>>>>>> talking BS. Personally I think you are the one with the BS. I > > >>>>>>>> did deal > > >>>>>>>> with the issue very completely but you fail to see what any sane > > >>>>>>>> person > > >>>>>>>> sees with this admin. > > > >>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> dick, > > > >>>>>>>>> Hold up on the hysterical partisan ranting and deal with THIS > > >>>>>>>>> issue > > >>>>>>>>> and what you and I have said about it. > > > >>>>>>>>> Your talking bullshit and if you'd calm down you'd realize that. > > >>>>>>>>> I'm > > >>>>>>>>> not impressed by the Glenn Beck immitation. > > >>>>>>>>> "They don't tell the teachers what to do" That's right they don't > > >>>>>>>>> , so > > >>>>>>>>> what are you riled up about? > > >>>>>>>>> "They control the Teacher union". Who does and how? > > > >>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 11:01 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> Remember all the talk about pragmatism in this president and we > > >>>>>>>>>> were > > >>>>>>>>>> overreacting last fall before the election? Look at what this > > >>>>>>>>>> POS admin > > >>>>>>>>>> has done so far and tell me I am overreacting. This is a crew > > >>>>>>>>>> who > > >>>>>>>>>> thinks nothing matters but what they want. You don't matter, > > >>>>>>>>>> your kids > > >>>>>>>>>> don't matter, the country doesn't matter; only Zero matters and > > >>>>>>>>>> what he > > >>>>>>>>>> wants to see done. They are pulling all the various activities > > >>>>>>>>>> into the > > >>>>>>>>>> WH with their czars, they are now telling companies how much > > >>>>>>>>>> they can > > >>>>>>>>>> pay people, they are naming people who are on record as being for > > >>>>>>>>>> euthanasia and eugenics and doing away with the Hippocratic Oath > > >>>>>>>>>> - and > > >>>>>>>>>> tell me I am over-reacting? Open your eyes and see what is > > >>>>>>>>>> really going > > >>>>>>>>>> on. Do you think they are doing all this for the laughs and > > >>>>>>>>>> just for > > >>>>>>>>>> something to do? > > > >>>>>>>>>> Now you are changing the slant. They don't tell the teachers > > >>>>>>>>>> what to do > > >>>>>>>>>> but they send out the curricula to the teachers and they control > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>> teachers unions. What do you think the teacher will do. I > > >>>>>>>>>> don't have > > >>>>>>>>>> to do this but if I don't I can kiss goodbye to any chance to > > >>>>>>>>>> get into > > >>>>>>>>>> admin or get transferred to the good school. That is the > > >>>>>>>>>> message here. > > >>>>>>>>>> Alarmist, hysterical nonsense be damned. These people are > > >>>>>>>>>> serious about > > >>>>>>>>>> this krep they are pulling and you sit there and think it is > > >>>>>>>>>> nothing. > > > >>>>>>>>>> They pull something, it gets massively complained about, it gets > > >>>>>>>>>> pulled > > >>>>>>>>>> back and we hear that someone did it without authorization and > > >>>>>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>>> someone gets fired and then given another good job. Over and > > >>>>>>>>>> over > > >>>>>>>>>> again. Their whole MO. This is the crew that said the returning > > >>>>>>>>>> military veterans were a threat to the country. Did you > > >>>>>>>>>> complain about > > >>>>>>>>>> that one? Wake up, fool! > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dick, > > > >>>>>>>>>>> You are seriously over-reacting and the comparisons of > > >>>>>>>>>>> President Obama > > >>>>>>>>>>> to Hitler, talk of "Brownshirts" etc, is alarmist, hysterical > > >>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I repeat, SHOW ME WHERE ANY TEACHER WILL BE FORCED TO SHOW THIS > > >>>>>>>>>>> TO HER/ > > >>>>>>>>>>> HIS CLASS. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 9:20 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I told you before. I do not want the president asking the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> children to > > >>>>>>>>>>>> help him when the message is given in the schools. What he > > >>>>>>>>>>>> should be > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doing is asking the parents to help see that their kids get > > >>>>>>>>>>>> educated. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong place to reach out to. It smacks far too much of the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> personality > > >>>>>>>>>>>> cult. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> He asks them what they can do for him rather than what they > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can do to > > >>>>>>>>>>>> help themselves and their country. He is not the country. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> While I am > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not a fan of the Kennedy clan, JFK did make a definite point > > >>>>>>>>>>>> in his > > >>>>>>>>>>>> speech about ask not. Zero is making it personal. That is > > >>>>>>>>>>>> specifically > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the problem I see with this. The whole thrust of this lesson > > >>>>>>>>>>>> plan is > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the problem. If you cannot see that, then you are ripe for > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wearing your > > >>>>>>>>>>>> uniform and doing your > > > ... > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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