Tommy, That's one. That's not many.

On 9/21/2010 1:52 PM, Tommy News wrote:
Source:
http://www.thegrio.com/news/lesbian-sgt-discharged-after-police-outed-her-to-air-force.php
Lesbian sgt. discharged after police outed her to Air Force
Jene Newsome played by the rules as an Air Force sergeant: She never told anyone in the military she was a lesbian.

The 28-year-old's honorable discharge under the U.S. military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy came only after police officers in Rapid City, South Dakota, saw a marriage certificate from Iowa -- one of the handful of U.S. states that recoganize same-sex marriage -- in Newsome's home and told the nearby Ellsworth Air Force Base.

Newsome and the American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against the western South Dakota police department, claiming the officers violated her privacy when they informed the military about her sexual orientation. The case also highlights concerns over the ability of third parties to "out" service members, especially as the Pentagon has started reviewing the 1993 "don't ask, don't tell" law.

The law does not explicitly prohibit gays or lesbians from serving in the military but requires them to serve in silence. If they acknowledge their sexual orientation or engage in a homosexual act, they can be expelled.

"I played by 'don't ask, don't tell,'" Newsome told The Associated Press by telephone.

Source:
http://www.thegrio.com/news/lesbian-sgt-discharged-after-police-outed-her-to-air-force.php

On 9/21/10, *Jonathan Ashley* <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Cite a source, Tommy. All you ever do is spout rhetoric. Cite a
    source.


    On 9/21/2010 12:20 PM, Tommy News wrote:
    *False.*
    **
    *Many who have been discharged have been outed by others.*

    On 9/21/10, *THE ANNOINTED ONE* <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Tommy Boy,

        The law is quite literal...(extremely rare these days)..
        Don't Ask,
        (the military doesn't) Don't Tell... that is left entirely up
        to the
        individual... it must come FROM his or her mouth...( Little drum
        roll ).... Not in it, to be valid as a career killer.


        On Sep 21, 10:31 am, Tommy News <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        > *No, Keith. Wrong. *
        > *There have been countless backstabbing "efforts" and
        vendettas to "out"
        > closeted and silent members of the military, including
        baiting, spreading
        > rumors, searching possessions and correspondence,
        entrapment, etc.*
        > *It is those who chose to "enforce" the policy,  who caused
        it to fail.*
        > **
        > *Billions have been wasted on these witch hunts and discharges.*
        > *DADT is a failure. Always has been. Since 1993. *
        > **
        > *Repeal it NOW, no further "delay". *
        >
        > On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > > No Tom, the policy has worked fine.   It has been those
        who chose to
        > > violate the policy who have had their "lives and carreers
        ruined".
        >
        > > Again, the military is no place for a "Gay
        Parade".......If you think that
        > > rescinding the DADT policy is going to somehow allow you
        and your buddies to
        > > get up and announce, "We're Here And We're Queer"; you are
        sadly mistaken.
        >
        > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Tommy News
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >
        > >> *No, Keith, the DADT policy is a complete falure and it
        has never worked.
        > >> *
        > >> **
        > >> *Thousands of lives and careers have been ruined.*
        > >> **
        > >> *No further biased "study" or delay should be tolerated.
        > >> *
        >
        > >>   On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >
        > >>> No Tom, the DADT was enacted, by the Clinton
        Administration in 1993.  The
        > >>> policy has worked, successfully for seventeen years.
        >
        > >>> Is it time to rescind the policy?  I tend to agree that
        it is, but not
        > >>> until such time as the military has a chance to weigh
        in, and determine the
        > >>> effects of such a change in policy, and "how/what" type
        of policy to
        > >>> implement as a replacement.
        >
        > >>> Sexual practices has no place in our military.  There
        have been Gays in
        > >>> our military who have fought and defended our Nation
        since 1776.   No policy
        > >>> is going to change that.   We especially don't want a
        military that is
        > >>> weakened by a bunch of folks with an agenda!!
        >
        > >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Tommy News
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
        >
        > >>>> *No, Keith.*
        > >>>> **
        > >>>> *The Pentagon has had since 1993 to review this failed
        policy which has
        > >>>> ruined thousands of lives and careers.*
        > >>>> **
        > >>>> *No further delay is acceptable.*
        > >>>> *Delay means do nothing.
        > >>>> *
        >
        > >>>>  On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >
        > >>>>>   No Tom, you're missing the real issue here, blinded
        by some
        > >>>>> secondary issue.
        >
        > >>>>> First, the Pentagon should have every right to review
        and determine how
        > >>>>> repeal of DADT will effect the military.  Second, and
        more importantly, the
        > >>>>> goal by the Marxists is to lock the Republicans out of
        amending the proposed
        > >>>>> Defense  Appropriations bill now before the
        Congress.  I don't trust the
        > >>>>> likes of Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, and a host of
        other Marxists
        > >>>>> controlling the vote over Defense Appropriations.  You
        shouldn't either.
        >
        > >>>>>  From CNN:
        >
        > 
>>>>>http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/20/senate.defense.bill/index.html
        >
        > >>>>> But in a statement issued Monday night, Senator Susan
        Collins
        > >>>>> (Confused, Maine)  said she would side with the rest
        of the GOP because the
        > >>>>> Democratic leadership of the Senate "intends to shut
        Republicans out of the
        > >>>>> debate."
        >
        > >>>>> Collins said she agreed with the chairman of the Joint
        Chiefs of Staff,
        > >>>>> Adm. Mike Mullen, that the law is "simply not fair."
        But she said Senate
        > >>>>> Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, should give
        Republicans and Democrats
        > >>>>> "an equal opportunity" to offer amendments to the
        defense bill.
        >
        > >>>>> "Now is not the time to play politics, and I again
        call on the majority
        > >>>>> leader to work with Republican leaders to negotiate an
        agreement so that the
        > >>>>> Senate can debate the defense bill this week," Collins
        said.
        >
        > >>>>> In a separate statement, Snowe also indicated she
        would support a
        > >>>>> Republican filibuster, saying the chamber should be
        allowed a full debate on
        > >>>>> the measure. Snowe also questioned why the Senate
        would vote on repeal
        > >>>>> before the military has completed its review.
        >
        > >>>>> "We should all have the opportunity to review that
        report which is to
        > >>>>> be completed on December 1, as we reevaluate this
        policy and the
        > >>>>> implementation of any new changes," Snowe's statement
        said.
        >
        > >>>>> The defense authorization act, which is a broad
        defense policy bill,
        > >>>>> would not rescind "don't ask, don't tell" until after
        the Pentagon completes
        > >>>>> a review of the repeal's impact on the military. The
        review is due in
        > >>>>> December and would serve as the basis for necessary
        certification by the
        > >>>>> president, defense secretary and chairman of the Joint
        Chiefs of Staff that
        > >>>>> the military could handle repealing the policy.
        >
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