*There are many other incidents. This is just one example of many.* On 9/21/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: > > One isolated incident in no way correlates to many. > > > On 9/21/2010 2:25 PM, Tommy News wrote: > > *There are more. This is just one example of many.* > > On 9/21/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Tommy, That's one. That's not many. >> >> >> On 9/21/2010 1:52 PM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> Source: >> >> >> http://www.thegrio.com/news/lesbian-sgt-discharged-after-police-outed-her-to-air-force.php >> >> Lesbian sgt. discharged after police outed her to Air Force >> >> Jene Newsome played by the rules as an Air Force sergeant: She never told >> anyone in the military she was a lesbian. >> >> The 28-year-old's honorable discharge under the U.S. military's "don't >> ask, don't tell" policy came only after police officers in Rapid City, South >> Dakota, saw a marriage certificate from Iowa -- one of the handful of U.S. >> states that recoganize same-sex marriage -- in Newsome's home and told the >> nearby Ellsworth Air Force Base. >> >> Newsome and the American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against >> the western South Dakota police department, claiming the officers violated >> her privacy when they informed the military about her sexual orientation. >> The case also highlights concerns over the ability of third parties to "out" >> service members, especially as the Pentagon has started reviewing the 1993 >> "don't ask, don't tell" law. >> >> The law does not explicitly prohibit gays or lesbians from serving in the >> military but requires them to serve in silence. If they acknowledge their >> sexual orientation or engage in a homosexual act, they can be expelled. >> >> "I played by 'don't ask, don't tell,'" Newsome told The Associated Press >> by telephone. >> Source: >> >> >> http://www.thegrio.com/news/lesbian-sgt-discharged-after-police-outed-her-to-air-force.php >> >> >> On 9/21/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Cite a source, Tommy. All you ever do is spout rhetoric. Cite a source. >>> >>> >>> On 9/21/2010 12:20 PM, Tommy News wrote: >>> >>> *False.* >>> ** >>> *Many who have been discharged have been outed by others.* >>> >>> >>> On 9/21/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Tommy Boy, >>>> >>>> The law is quite literal...(extremely rare these days).. Don't Ask, >>>> (the military doesn't) Don't Tell... that is left entirely up to the >>>> individual... it must come FROM his or her mouth...( Little drum >>>> roll ).... Not in it, to be valid as a career killer. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 21, 10:31 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > *No, Keith. Wrong. * >>>> > *There have been countless backstabbing "efforts" and vendettas to >>>> "out" >>>> > closeted and silent members of the military, including baiting, >>>> spreading >>>> > rumors, searching possessions and correspondence, entrapment, etc.* >>>> > *It is those who chose to "enforce" the policy, who caused it to >>>> fail.* >>>> > ** >>>> > *Billions have been wasted on these witch hunts and discharges.* >>>> > *DADT is a failure. Always has been. Since 1993. * >>>> > ** >>>> > *Repeal it NOW, no further "delay". * >>>> > >>>> > On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > No Tom, the policy has worked fine. It has been those who chose to >>>> > > violate the policy who have had their "lives and carreers ruined". >>>> > >>>> > > Again, the military is no place for a "Gay Parade".......If you >>>> think that >>>> > > rescinding the DADT policy is going to somehow allow you and your >>>> buddies to >>>> > > get up and announce, "We're Here And We're Queer"; you are sadly >>>> mistaken. >>>> > >>>> > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >> *No, Keith, the DADT policy is a complete falure and it has never >>>> worked. >>>> > >> * >>>> > >> ** >>>> > >> *Thousands of lives and careers have been ruined.* >>>> > >> ** >>>> > >> *No further biased "study" or delay should be tolerated. >>>> > >> * >>>> > >>>> > >> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>> No Tom, the DADT was enacted, by the Clinton Administration in >>>> 1993. The >>>> > >>> policy has worked, successfully for seventeen years. >>>> > >>>> > >>> Is it time to rescind the policy? I tend to agree that it is, but >>>> not >>>> > >>> until such time as the military has a chance to weigh in, and >>>> determine the >>>> > >>> effects of such a change in policy, and "how/what" type of policy >>>> to >>>> > >>> implement as a replacement. >>>> > >>>> > >>> Sexual practices has no place in our military. There have been >>>> Gays in >>>> > >>> our military who have fought and defended our Nation since 1776. >>>> No policy >>>> > >>> is going to change that. We especially don't want a military >>>> that is >>>> > >>> weakened by a bunch of folks with an agenda!! >>>> > >>>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Tommy News < >>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *No, Keith.* >>>> > >>>> ** >>>> > >>>> *The Pentagon has had since 1993 to review this failed policy >>>> which has >>>> > >>>> ruined thousands of lives and careers.* >>>> > >>>> ** >>>> > >>>> *No further delay is acceptable.* >>>> > >>>> *Delay means do nothing. >>>> > >>>> * >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> No Tom, you're missing the real issue here, blinded by some >>>> > >>>>> secondary issue. >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> First, the Pentagon should have every right to review and >>>> determine how >>>> > >>>>> repeal of DADT will effect the military. Second, and more >>>> importantly, the >>>> > >>>>> goal by the Marxists is to lock the Republicans out of amending >>>> the proposed >>>> > >>>>> Defense Appropriations bill now before the Congress. I don't >>>> trust the >>>> > >>>>> likes of Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, and a host of other >>>> Marxists >>>> > >>>>> controlling the vote over Defense Appropriations. You shouldn't >>>> either. >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From CNN: >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> >>>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/20/senate.defense.bill/index.html >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> But in a statement issued Monday night, Senator Susan Collins >>>> > >>>>> (Confused, Maine) said she would side with the rest of the GOP >>>> because the >>>> > >>>>> Democratic leadership of the Senate "intends to shut Republicans >>>> out of the >>>> > >>>>> debate." >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Collins said she agreed with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of >>>> Staff, >>>> > >>>>> Adm. Mike Mullen, that the law is "simply not fair." But she >>>> said Senate >>>> > >>>>> Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, should give Republicans >>>> and Democrats >>>> > >>>>> "an equal opportunity" to offer amendments to the defense bill. >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> "Now is not the time to play politics, and I again call on the >>>> majority >>>> > >>>>> leader to work with Republican leaders to negotiate an agreement >>>> so that the >>>> > >>>>> Senate can debate the defense bill this week," Collins said. >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> In a separate statement, Snowe also indicated she would support >>>> a >>>> > >>>>> Republican filibuster, saying the chamber should be allowed a >>>> full debate on >>>> > >>>>> the measure. Snowe also questioned why the Senate would vote on >>>> repeal >>>> > >>>>> before the military has completed its review. >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> "We should all have the opportunity to review that report which >>>> is to >>>> > >>>>> be completed on December 1, as we reevaluate this policy and the >>>> > >>>>> implementation of any new changes," Snowe's statement said. >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> The defense authorization act, which is a broad defense policy >>>> bill, >>>> > >>>>> would not rescind "don't ask, don't tell" until after the >>>> Pentagon completes >>>> > >>>>> a review of the repeal's impact on the military. The review is >>>> due in >>>> > >>>>> December and would serve as the basis for necessary >>>> certification by the >>>> > >>>>> president, defense secretary and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of >>>> Staff that >>>> > >>>>> the military could handle repealing the policy. >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -- >>>> > >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>> > >>>>> For options & help seehttp:// >>>> groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> * Visit our other community >>>> > >>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>> > >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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What >>> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior >>> public relations." >>> - Marc Stevens >>> >>> "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that >>> cannot be." >>> - Thomas Jefferson* >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at >>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. 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