*There are more. This is just one example of many.* On 9/21/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tommy, That's one. That's not many. > > > On 9/21/2010 1:52 PM, Tommy News wrote: > > Source: > > > http://www.thegrio.com/news/lesbian-sgt-discharged-after-police-outed-her-to-air-force.php > > Lesbian sgt. discharged after police outed her to Air Force > > Jene Newsome played by the rules as an Air Force sergeant: She never told > anyone in the military she was a lesbian. > > The 28-year-old's honorable discharge under the U.S. military's "don't > ask, don't tell" policy came only after police officers in Rapid City, South > Dakota, saw a marriage certificate from Iowa -- one of the handful of U.S. > states that recoganize same-sex marriage -- in Newsome's home and told the > nearby Ellsworth Air Force Base. > > Newsome and the American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against > the western South Dakota police department, claiming the officers violated > her privacy when they informed the military about her sexual orientation. > The case also highlights concerns over the ability of third parties to "out" > service members, especially as the Pentagon has started reviewing the 1993 > "don't ask, don't tell" law. > > The law does not explicitly prohibit gays or lesbians from serving in the > military but requires them to serve in silence. If they acknowledge their > sexual orientation or engage in a homosexual act, they can be expelled. > > "I played by 'don't ask, don't tell,'" Newsome told The Associated Press by > telephone. > Source: > > > http://www.thegrio.com/news/lesbian-sgt-discharged-after-police-outed-her-to-air-force.php > > > On 9/21/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Cite a source, Tommy. All you ever do is spout rhetoric. Cite a source. >> >> >> On 9/21/2010 12:20 PM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> *False.* >> ** >> *Many who have been discharged have been outed by others.* >> >> >> On 9/21/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Tommy Boy, >>> >>> The law is quite literal...(extremely rare these days).. Don't Ask, >>> (the military doesn't) Don't Tell... that is left entirely up to the >>> individual... it must come FROM his or her mouth...( Little drum >>> roll ).... Not in it, to be valid as a career killer. >>> >>> >>> On Sep 21, 10:31 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > *No, Keith. Wrong. * >>> > *There have been countless backstabbing "efforts" and vendettas to >>> "out" >>> > closeted and silent members of the military, including baiting, >>> spreading >>> > rumors, searching possessions and correspondence, entrapment, etc.* >>> > *It is those who chose to "enforce" the policy, who caused it to >>> fail.* >>> > ** >>> > *Billions have been wasted on these witch hunts and discharges.* >>> > *DADT is a failure. Always has been. Since 1993. * >>> > ** >>> > *Repeal it NOW, no further "delay". * >>> > >>> > On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > No Tom, the policy has worked fine. It has been those who chose to >>> > > violate the policy who have had their "lives and carreers ruined". >>> > >>> > > Again, the military is no place for a "Gay Parade".......If you think >>> that >>> > > rescinding the DADT policy is going to somehow allow you and your >>> buddies to >>> > > get up and announce, "We're Here And We're Queer"; you are sadly >>> mistaken. >>> > >>> > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >> *No, Keith, the DADT policy is a complete falure and it has never >>> worked. >>> > >> * >>> > >> ** >>> > >> *Thousands of lives and careers have been ruined.* >>> > >> ** >>> > >> *No further biased "study" or delay should be tolerated. >>> > >> * >>> > >>> > >> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> No Tom, the DADT was enacted, by the Clinton Administration in >>> 1993. The >>> > >>> policy has worked, successfully for seventeen years. >>> > >>> > >>> Is it time to rescind the policy? I tend to agree that it is, but >>> not >>> > >>> until such time as the military has a chance to weigh in, and >>> determine the >>> > >>> effects of such a change in policy, and "how/what" type of policy >>> to >>> > >>> implement as a replacement. >>> > >>> > >>> Sexual practices has no place in our military. There have been >>> Gays in >>> > >>> our military who have fought and defended our Nation since 1776. >>> No policy >>> > >>> is going to change that. We especially don't want a military that >>> is >>> > >>> weakened by a bunch of folks with an agenda!! >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Tommy News <[email protected] >>> >wrote: >>> > >>> > >>>> *No, Keith.* >>> > >>>> ** >>> > >>>> *The Pentagon has had since 1993 to review this failed policy >>> which has >>> > >>>> ruined thousands of lives and careers.* >>> > >>>> ** >>> > >>>> *No further delay is acceptable.* >>> > >>>> *Delay means do nothing. >>> > >>>> * >>> > >>> > >>>> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>>>> No Tom, you're missing the real issue here, blinded by some >>> > >>>>> secondary issue. >>> > >>> > >>>>> First, the Pentagon should have every right to review and >>> determine how >>> > >>>>> repeal of DADT will effect the military. Second, and more >>> importantly, the >>> > >>>>> goal by the Marxists is to lock the Republicans out of amending >>> the proposed >>> > >>>>> Defense Appropriations bill now before the Congress. I don't >>> trust the >>> > >>>>> likes of Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, and a host of other >>> Marxists >>> > >>>>> controlling the vote over Defense Appropriations. You shouldn't >>> either. >>> > >>> > >>>>> From CNN: >>> > >>> > >>>>> >>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/20/senate.defense.bill/index.html >>> > >>> > >>>>> But in a statement issued Monday night, Senator Susan Collins >>> > >>>>> (Confused, Maine) said she would side with the rest of the GOP >>> because the >>> > >>>>> Democratic leadership of the Senate "intends to shut Republicans >>> out of the >>> > >>>>> debate." >>> > >>> > >>>>> Collins said she agreed with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of >>> Staff, >>> > >>>>> Adm. Mike Mullen, that the law is "simply not fair." But she said >>> Senate >>> > >>>>> Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, should give Republicans and >>> Democrats >>> > >>>>> "an equal opportunity" to offer amendments to the defense bill. >>> > >>> > >>>>> "Now is not the time to play politics, and I again call on the >>> majority >>> > >>>>> leader to work with Republican leaders to negotiate an agreement >>> so that the >>> > >>>>> Senate can debate the defense bill this week," Collins said. >>> > >>> > >>>>> In a separate statement, Snowe also indicated she would support a >>> > >>>>> Republican filibuster, saying the chamber should be allowed a >>> full debate on >>> > >>>>> the measure. Snowe also questioned why the Senate would vote on >>> repeal >>> > >>>>> before the military has completed its review. >>> > >>> > >>>>> "We should all have the opportunity to review that report which >>> is to >>> > >>>>> be completed on December 1, as we reevaluate this policy and the >>> > >>>>> implementation of any new changes," Snowe's statement said. >>> > >>> > >>>>> The defense authorization act, which is a broad defense policy >>> bill, >>> > >>>>> would not rescind "don't ask, don't tell" until after the >>> Pentagon completes >>> > >>>>> a review of the repeal's impact on the military. The review is >>> due in >>> > >>>>> December and would serve as the basis for necessary certification >>> by the >>> > >>>>> president, defense secretary and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of >>> Staff that >>> > >>>>> the military could handle repealing the policy. >>> > >>> > >>>>> -- >>> > >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> > >>>>> For options & help seehttp:// >>> groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> > >>> > >>>>> * Visit our other community >>> > >>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>> > >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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