*There are many more examples of these witch hunts and outings. I will search for documentation as time allows. * *I have wasted far too much time on this today and now must move on to other things.*
On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've been perusing the news accounts of those who have been discharged, and > most are where a soldier, sailor or an airman have wanted to make a > statement, for their agenda. > Jene Newsome's story is indeed the rare one. Moreover, Ms. Newsome and her > "husband" have a lawsuit against the Rapid City South Dakota Police > Department for in excess of $800,000.00. I would not venture to guess what > her odds are in prevailing, but her complaint brings up an interesting > question" > > Whether getting married in a state that acknowledges "Same Sex" Marriage, > is violative of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. > > Obviously, a marriage license is public record. I would surmise that Ms. > Newsome was in violation of the policy. > > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *There are more. This is just one example of many.* >> >> On 9/21/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Tommy, That's one. That's not many. >>> >>> >>> On 9/21/2010 1:52 PM, Tommy News wrote: >>> >>> Source: >>> >>> >>> http://www.thegrio.com/news/lesbian-sgt-discharged-after-police-outed-her-to-air-force.php >>> >>> Lesbian sgt. discharged after police outed her to Air Force >>> >>> Jene Newsome played by the rules as an Air Force sergeant: She never told >>> anyone in the military she was a lesbian. >>> >>> The 28-year-old's honorable discharge under the U.S. military's "don't >>> ask, don't tell" policy came only after police officers in Rapid City, South >>> Dakota, saw a marriage certificate from Iowa -- one of the handful of U.S. >>> states that recoganize same-sex marriage -- in Newsome's home and told >>> the nearby Ellsworth Air Force Base. >>> >>> Newsome and the American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against >>> the western South Dakota police department, claiming the officers violated >>> her privacy when they informed the military about her sexual orientation. >>> The case also highlights concerns over the ability of third parties to "out" >>> service members, especially as the Pentagon has started reviewing the 1993 >>> "don't ask, don't tell" law. >>> >>> The law does not explicitly prohibit gays or lesbians from serving in the >>> military but requires them to serve in silence. If they acknowledge their >>> sexual orientation or engage in a homosexual act, they can be expelled. >>> >>> "I played by 'don't ask, don't tell,'" Newsome told The Associated Press >>> by telephone. >>> Source: >>> >>> >>> http://www.thegrio.com/news/lesbian-sgt-discharged-after-police-outed-her-to-air-force.php >>> >>> >>> On 9/21/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Cite a source, Tommy. All you ever do is spout rhetoric. Cite a source. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/21/2010 12:20 PM, Tommy News wrote: >>>> >>>> *False.* >>>> ** >>>> *Many who have been discharged have been outed by others.* >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/21/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Tommy Boy, >>>>> >>>>> The law is quite literal...(extremely rare these days).. Don't Ask, >>>>> (the military doesn't) Don't Tell... that is left entirely up to the >>>>> individual... it must come FROM his or her mouth...( Little drum >>>>> roll ).... Not in it, to be valid as a career killer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 21, 10:31 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > *No, Keith. Wrong. * >>>>> > *There have been countless backstabbing "efforts" and vendettas to >>>>> "out" >>>>> > closeted and silent members of the military, including baiting, >>>>> spreading >>>>> > rumors, searching possessions and correspondence, entrapment, etc.* >>>>> > *It is those who chose to "enforce" the policy, who caused it to >>>>> fail.* >>>>> > ** >>>>> > *Billions have been wasted on these witch hunts and discharges.* >>>>> > *DADT is a failure. Always has been. Since 1993. * >>>>> > ** >>>>> > *Repeal it NOW, no further "delay". * >>>>> > >>>>> > On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > No Tom, the policy has worked fine. It has been those who chose >>>>> to >>>>> > > violate the policy who have had their "lives and carreers ruined". >>>>> > >>>>> > > Again, the military is no place for a "Gay Parade".......If you >>>>> think that >>>>> > > rescinding the DADT policy is going to somehow allow you and your >>>>> buddies to >>>>> > > get up and announce, "We're Here And We're Queer"; you are sadly >>>>> mistaken. >>>>> > >>>>> > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >> *No, Keith, the DADT policy is a complete falure and it has never >>>>> worked. >>>>> > >> * >>>>> > >> ** >>>>> > >> *Thousands of lives and careers have been ruined.* >>>>> > >> ** >>>>> > >> *No further biased "study" or delay should be tolerated. >>>>> > >> * >>>>> > >>>>> > >> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> No Tom, the DADT was enacted, by the Clinton Administration in >>>>> 1993. The >>>>> > >>> policy has worked, successfully for seventeen years. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> Is it time to rescind the policy? I tend to agree that it is, >>>>> but not >>>>> > >>> until such time as the military has a chance to weigh in, and >>>>> determine the >>>>> > >>> effects of such a change in policy, and "how/what" type of policy >>>>> to >>>>> > >>> implement as a replacement. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> Sexual practices has no place in our military. There have been >>>>> Gays in >>>>> > >>> our military who have fought and defended our Nation since >>>>> 1776. No policy >>>>> > >>> is going to change that. We especially don't want a military >>>>> that is >>>>> > >>> weakened by a bunch of folks with an agenda!! >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Tommy News < >>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> *No, Keith.* >>>>> > >>>> ** >>>>> > >>>> *The Pentagon has had since 1993 to review this failed policy >>>>> which has >>>>> > >>>> ruined thousands of lives and careers.* >>>>> > >>>> ** >>>>> > >>>> *No further delay is acceptable.* >>>>> > >>>> *Delay means do nothing. >>>>> > >>>> * >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> No Tom, you're missing the real issue here, blinded by some >>>>> > >>>>> secondary issue. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> First, the Pentagon should have every right to review and >>>>> determine how >>>>> > >>>>> repeal of DADT will effect the military. Second, and more >>>>> importantly, the >>>>> > >>>>> goal by the Marxists is to lock the Republicans out of amending >>>>> the proposed >>>>> > >>>>> Defense Appropriations bill now before the Congress. I don't >>>>> trust the >>>>> > >>>>> likes of Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, and a host of other >>>>> Marxists >>>>> > >>>>> controlling the vote over Defense Appropriations. You >>>>> shouldn't either. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> From CNN: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/20/senate.defense.bill/index.html >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> But in a statement issued Monday night, Senator Susan Collins >>>>> > >>>>> (Confused, Maine) said she would side with the rest of the GOP >>>>> because the >>>>> > >>>>> Democratic leadership of the Senate "intends to shut >>>>> Republicans out of the >>>>> > >>>>> debate." >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Collins said she agreed with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs >>>>> of Staff, >>>>> > >>>>> Adm. Mike Mullen, that the law is "simply not fair." But she >>>>> said Senate >>>>> > >>>>> Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, should give Republicans >>>>> and Democrats >>>>> > >>>>> "an equal opportunity" to offer amendments to the defense bill. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "Now is not the time to play politics, and I again call on the >>>>> majority >>>>> > >>>>> leader to work with Republican leaders to negotiate an >>>>> agreement so that the >>>>> > >>>>> Senate can debate the defense bill this week," Collins said. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> In a separate statement, Snowe also indicated she would support >>>>> a >>>>> > >>>>> Republican filibuster, saying the chamber should be allowed a >>>>> full debate on >>>>> > >>>>> the measure. Snowe also questioned why the Senate would vote on >>>>> repeal >>>>> > >>>>> before the military has completed its review. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "We should all have the opportunity to review that report which >>>>> is to >>>>> > >>>>> be completed on December 1, as we reevaluate this policy and >>>>> the >>>>> > >>>>> implementation of any new changes," Snowe's statement said. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The defense authorization act, which is a broad defense policy >>>>> bill, >>>>> > >>>>> would not rescind "don't ask, don't tell" until after the >>>>> Pentagon completes >>>>> > >>>>> a review of the repeal's impact on the military. The review is >>>>> due in >>>>> > >>>>> December and would serve as the basis for necessary >>>>> certification by the >>>>> > >>>>> president, defense secretary and chairman of the Joint Chiefs >>>>> of Staff that >>>>> > >>>>> the military could handle repealing the policy. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> > >>>>> For options & help seehttp:// >>>>> groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> * Visit our other community >>>>> > >>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>> > >>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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