Greg- What is scary is the potential for increased hate crimes, bullying, violence, and opression. I fully expect there will be a backlash to DADT repeal, and a spike in homophobic hate crimes. However, DADT was an unjust and discriminatory failed policy which ruined thousands of lives and careers, and it had to be repealed.
On 12/23/10, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: > The REAL law was, "do not ask - do not tell - do not PURSUE!" > > Ok Tom, you know i have always supported this - but get it and get it > FAST. > > > Asking and pursuit is BACK on the table. And HUGE!!!!!!!!! > > Google "ANYone" > > Its scary! > > On Dec 23, 12:04 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> Markie Mark- >> >> Who asked you to chime in? >> I was addressing Keith's lie that he "never" called me an "asshole." >> Please MYOB. >> >> On 12/23/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Here is the post by you that preceded your being called an "asshole". >> > Funny >> > but it looks like you were the first to post a "smear" about Glenn Becks >> > rally about God and Country. Then you refused to answer any question on >> > your >> > position posting instead something entirely irrelevant to the discussion >> > or >> > the question posed. >> >> > Your answer was to say, when pinned back by your ears for an on topic >> > response, that Keith was a Jackass. >> >> > So yes, if you were a trial attorney, you would have just convicted >> > yourself >> > for having thrown the first punch. >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Lil"FascistReichWingnutKeithieKeith- >> >> >> My memory is excellent and serves me well. I should have been a trial >> >> attorney. >> >> >> 1. Yes, you have indeed called me "asshole." One of my posts enraged >> >> you so that you did in fact call me "asshole". This was some time ago. >> >> Perhaps you were drinking when you wrote this. Search your group >> >> archives here: >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/browse_thread/thread/ab... >> >> >> On September 1st, at 3:32 PM. you, "Keith in Tampa" wrote, and I >> >> quote, " >> >> >> " Hey Asshole, >> >> >> First, if I choose to drink, it's my business. Second, you are a >> >> typical >> >> Anti-American Marxist who when confronted with truth, can only revert >> >> to >> >> nasty name calling and hateful spew. >> >> Personally I love myself! To know me is to love me! >> >> >> Your last line is typical of far left Marxists, and proof that you >> >> don't >> >> have a clue. >> >> >> G'Nite!! " >> >> >> 2. Yes, you most certainly have. Search your group archives for proof. >> >> >> 3. I am not a "moonbat" which is an offensive hateful insult and a >> >> false >> >> smear. >> >> I am an American human, and not a moon, a bat, or a "moonbat". >> >> >> 4. and 5. Calling someone something they are not, like "Socialist" is >> >> indeed derogatory, a personal attack, an insult, and a false lie. >> >> I am not a "Marrxist" "Socialist" or a "Communist". >> >> >> 6. Wrong again. More lies hate and smear from Keith. Tommy is not and >> >> never has been "a very hateful, liar who smears those who don't march >> >> to your >> >> socialist Anti-American rainbow agenda." >> >> >> This thread proves that you are indeed a liar with a poor memory and a >> >> purveyour of false, hateful smear, Lil'KeitheKeith. >> >> >> On 12/23/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Lil"MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews, >> >> >> > 1. I have never called you an asshole. >> >> >> > 2, I have never said half of the ridiculous claims that you have made >> >> here. >> >> >> > 3. You are a Moonbat, your posts demonstrate that you don't read, >> >> > study, >> >> or >> >> > have an inkling about what is going on around you. The fact that >> >> > you >> >> > cannot point to any of the claims that you make, or support any of >> >> > your >> >> > arguments with substantive, logical thought also is another inkling. >> >> prove >> >> > that. >> >> >> > 4. Calling a Socialist, a "Socialist" is not a derogatory term. >> >> >> > 5. Calling a Marxist, a "Marxist" is not derogatory either. >> >> >> > 6. You are a very hateful, liar who smears those who don't march to >> >> > your >> >> > socialist Anti-American rainbow agenda. This thread proves that. >> >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Markie Mark- >> >> >> >> After the Republican Obstructionists take control of Congress in >> >> >> January, I predict that very little will get passed. Their primary >> >> >> un-American objective is to make The President of The United States >> >> >> fail. Watch and see. >> >> >> >> On 12/23/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > Most, yes; and I read it all... as do MOST posters on this >> >> >> > forum... >> >> >> except >> >> >> > you. As long as gay equality (NOT rights) is tied to immigration, >> >> >> > budget, >> >> >> or >> >> >> > anything else that is slightly distasteful it will NOT pass. >> >> >> > The day it is introduced as a sole and separate issue it will >> >> >> > pass. >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> No, I have not read the entire bill. >> >> >> >> >> Are you aware that most legislation before Congress almost always >> >> >> >> has >> >> >> >> unrelated amendments and attachments? >> >> >> >> >> On 12/23/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Tommy, >> >> >> >> >> > A simple question..... Have you ever read any of the proposed >> >> >> >> > DOMA >> >> >> >> > repeal >> >> >> >> > legislation and all the "attachments" and "amendments" that >> >> >> >> > have >> >> >> forever >> >> >> >> > been attached to to it ??? >> >> >> >> >> > If and when....like DADT.... a simple single subject bill to >> >> >> >> > make >> >> all >> >> >> >> civil >> >> >> >> > unions equal in every way is put forth it will pass. >> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Mark <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Tommy, >> >> >> >> >> >> Your "list" proves that you never did understand what you are >> >> >> reading. >> >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> >> can be free to attack your "ideas" without that attack having >> >> >> anything >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> with you personally. You put yourself forward as "Tommy News" >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> we >> >> >> >> >> expect >> >> >> >> >> (yet never get) a semblance of neutrality and or objectivity >> >> >> >> >> from >> >> >> >> anything >> >> >> >> >> connected with "News"; thus the plays on your chosen moniker. >> >> >> >> >> >> As to the Marxist/Socialist claims... Obama made them himself >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> his >> >> >> >> >> auto-biography. For you to try to dismiss this is absurd. >> >> >> >> >> Denial >> >> is >> >> >> not >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> river in Egypt. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Tommy News >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected] >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Lil Keithie Kieth >> >> >> >> >> >>> I am very sorry that you are such a homophobic Reich wingnut >> >> >> fascist. >> >> >> >> >> >>> To repeat again, >> >> >> >> >> >>> Don't you believe that when you called me "Asshole" >> >> >> >> >>> "Moonbat" >> >> >> >> >>> "Marxist" "Socialist" >> >> >> >> >>> "Young Tommy" "Lil Tom Tom" "Ignorant" etc. you were being >> >> hateful, >> >> >> >> >>> smearing and hurting me, and lying? >> >> >> >> >> >>> I believe you are telling lies again.You have demonstrated >> >> >> >> >>> again >> >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >> >> >>> again that you do NOT hold "beliefs of equality for all" as >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >> >>> falsely >> >> >> >> >>> claim. >> >> >> >> >> >>> You oppose the repeal of DADT, which has ruined thousands of >> >> lives >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >>> careers. >> >> >> >> >> >>> You oppose the repeal of DOMA, which discriminates against >> >> legally >> >> >> >> >>> married same sex couples who only want equal Federal marriage >> >> >> benefits >> >> >> >> >>> such as social security and joint tax returns, etc. >> >> >> >> >> >>> You oppose Civil Marriage Equality for same sex couples. >> >> >> >> >>> Civil >> >> >> Unions >> >> >> >> >>> and domestic partnerships are lesser, unequal contracts with >> >> fewer >> >> >> >> >>> benefits and rights. >> >> >> >> >> >>> You oppose UAFA, and favor tearing loving same sex families >> >> >> >> >>> apart >> >> >> >> >>> through deportation. >> >> >> >> >> >>> You appear to falsely believe that being gay is a choice and >> >> >> >> >>> a >> >> >> >> >>> lifestyle, which it is not. >> >> >> >> >> >>> You believe that all gays are flamboyant chaps wearing cross >> >> >> dressing >> >> >> >> >>> exhibitionist sex fiends, which most are not. Most dress >> >> >> >> >>> better >> >> and >> >> >> >> >>> more conservatively than you do. Many are chaste and >> >> >> >> >>> celebate. >> >> >> >> >> >>> You, Keith, by your own admissions, are a prejudiced >> >> >> >> >>> misguided >> >> >> >> >>> misinformed homophobic Reich wingnut bigot with a dirty mind. >> >> Yes, >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >>> are. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 12/23/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> > LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews, >> >> >> >> >> >>> > How, or why would you make such a slanderous statement as >> >> >> >> >>> > that? >> >> >> >> >>> > Can >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >> >>> > point to something that would make you say such a hateful >> >> >> >> >>> > lie >> >> and >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> >>> smear >> >> >> >> >>> > against my person? >> >> >> >> >> >>> > Either point to a post, with the quote, or make an apology. >> >> One >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >>> > other, >> >> >> >> >> >>> > KeithInTampa >> >> >> >> >> >>> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Tommy News < >> >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> Keith does not champion gays as equals. >> >> >> >> >>> >> He sees them as second class citizens. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> On 12/22/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Tommy, >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > Where is the need to champion ANY group when you >> >> >> >> >>> >> > champion >> >> all >> >> >> as >> >> >> >> >>> equals >> >> >> >> >>> >> ?? >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News < >> >> >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Keith- >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Although you flippantly state that "Yea, I am an >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> arrogant >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> asshole", >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> you are in fact a misguided homophobe, as you have >> >> >> demonstrated >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> clearly in your anti-gay statements in these groups. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I suggest that you make youself a New Year's resolution >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> become >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> an >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> ally, champion, and advocate for your oppressed gay >> >> ... >> >> read more »- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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