Lil"FascistReichWingnutKeithieKeith- My memory is excellent and serves me well. I should have been a trial attorney.
1. Yes, you have indeed called me "asshole." One of my posts enraged you so that you did in fact call me "asshole". This was some time ago. Perhaps you were drinking when you wrote this. Search your group archives here: http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/browse_thread/thread/abda3fce2e182b23/aa056c8f40e95ac6?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=+asshole+keith+tommy#aa056c8f40e95ac6 On September 1st, at 3:32 PM. you, "Keith in Tampa" wrote, and I quote, " " Hey Asshole, First, if I choose to drink, it's my business. Second, you are a typical Anti-American Marxist who when confronted with truth, can only revert to nasty name calling and hateful spew. Personally I love myself! To know me is to love me! Your last line is typical of far left Marxists, and proof that you don't have a clue. G'Nite!! " 2. Yes, you most certainly have. Search your group archives for proof. 3. I am not a "moonbat" which is an offensive hateful insult and a false smear. I am an American human, and not a moon, a bat, or a "moonbat". 4. and 5. Calling someone something they are not, like "Socialist" is indeed derogatory, a personal attack, an insult, and a false lie. I am not a "Marrxist" "Socialist" or a "Communist". 6. Wrong again. More lies hate and smear from Keith. Tommy is not and never has been "a very hateful, liar who smears those who don't march to your socialist Anti-American rainbow agenda." This thread proves that you are indeed a liar with a poor memory and a purveyour of false, hateful smear, Lil'KeitheKeith. On 12/23/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Lil"MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews, > > 1. I have never called you an asshole. > > 2, I have never said half of the ridiculous claims that you have made here. > > 3. You are a Moonbat, your posts demonstrate that you don't read, study, or > have an inkling about what is going on around you. The fact that you > cannot point to any of the claims that you make, or support any of your > arguments with substantive, logical thought also is another inkling. prove > that. > > 4. Calling a Socialist, a "Socialist" is not a derogatory term. > > 5. Calling a Marxist, a "Marxist" is not derogatory either. > > 6. You are a very hateful, liar who smears those who don't march to your > socialist Anti-American rainbow agenda. This thread proves that. > > > > > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Markie Mark- >> >> After the Republican Obstructionists take control of Congress in >> January, I predict that very little will get passed. Their primary >> un-American objective is to make The President of The United States >> fail. Watch and see. >> >> On 12/23/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Most, yes; and I read it all... as do MOST posters on this forum... >> except >> > you. As long as gay equality (NOT rights) is tied to immigration, >> > budget, >> or >> > anything else that is slightly distasteful it will NOT pass. >> > The day it is introduced as a sole and separate issue it will pass. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> No, I have not read the entire bill. >> >> >> >> Are you aware that most legislation before Congress almost always has >> >> unrelated amendments and attachments? >> >> >> >> On 12/23/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Tommy, >> >> > >> >> > A simple question..... Have you ever read any of the proposed DOMA >> >> > repeal >> >> > legislation and all the "attachments" and "amendments" that have >> forever >> >> > been attached to to it ??? >> >> > >> >> > If and when....like DADT.... a simple single subject bill to make all >> >> civil >> >> > unions equal in every way is put forth it will pass. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Tommy, >> >> >> >> >> >> Your "list" proves that you never did understand what you are >> reading. >> >> >> I >> >> >> can be free to attack your "ideas" without that attack having >> anything >> >> to >> >> >> do >> >> >> with you personally. You put yourself forward as "Tommy News" and we >> >> >> expect >> >> >> (yet never get) a semblance of neutrality and or objectivity from >> >> anything >> >> >> connected with "News"; thus the plays on your chosen moniker. >> >> >> >> >> >> As to the Marxist/Socialist claims... Obama made them himself in his >> >> >> auto-biography. For you to try to dismiss this is absurd. Denial is >> not >> >> a >> >> >> river in Egypt. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Lil Keithie Kieth >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I am very sorry that you are such a homophobic Reich wingnut >> fascist. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> To repeat again, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Don't you believe that when you called me "Asshole" "Moonbat" >> >> >>> "Marxist" "Socialist" >> >> >>> "Young Tommy" "Lil Tom Tom" "Ignorant" etc. you were being hateful, >> >> >>> smearing and hurting me, and lying? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I believe you are telling lies again.You have demonstrated again >> >> >>> and >> >> >>> again that you do NOT hold "beliefs of equality for all" as you >> >> >>> falsely >> >> >>> claim. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> You oppose the repeal of DADT, which has ruined thousands of lives >> and >> >> >>> careers. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> You oppose the repeal of DOMA, which discriminates against legally >> >> >>> married same sex couples who only want equal Federal marriage >> benefits >> >> >>> such as social security and joint tax returns, etc. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> You oppose Civil Marriage Equality for same sex couples. Civil >> Unions >> >> >>> and domestic partnerships are lesser, unequal contracts with fewer >> >> >>> benefits and rights. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> You oppose UAFA, and favor tearing loving same sex families apart >> >> >>> through deportation. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> You appear to falsely believe that being gay is a choice and a >> >> >>> lifestyle, which it is not. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> You believe that all gays are flamboyant chaps wearing cross >> dressing >> >> >>> exhibitionist sex fiends, which most are not. Most dress better and >> >> >>> more conservatively than you do. Many are chaste and celebate. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> You, Keith, by your own admissions, are a prejudiced misguided >> >> >>> misinformed homophobic Reich wingnut bigot with a dirty mind. Yes, >> you >> >> >>> are. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On 12/23/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> > LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews, >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > How, or why would you make such a slanderous statement as that? >> >> >>> > Can >> >> >>> you >> >> >>> > point to something that would make you say such a hateful lie and >> a >> >> >>> smear >> >> >>> > against my person? >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Either point to a post, with the quote, or make an apology. One >> or >> >> the >> >> >>> > other, >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > KeithInTampa >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Tommy News < >> [email protected]> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >> Keith does not champion gays as equals. >> >> >>> >> He sees them as second class citizens. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> On 12/22/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >> > Tommy, >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > Where is the need to champion ANY group when you champion all >> as >> >> >>> equals >> >> >>> >> ?? >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News < >> >> [email protected]> >> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> Keith- >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Although you flippantly state that "Yea, I am an arrogant >> >> >>> >> >> asshole", >> >> >>> >> >> you are in fact a misguided homophobe, as you have >> demonstrated >> >> >>> >> >> clearly in your anti-gay statements in these groups. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I suggest that you make youself a New Year's resolution to >> >> >>> >> >> become >> >> >>> >> >> an >> >> >>> >> >> ally, champion, and advocate for your oppressed gay friends >> and >> >> >>> group >> >> >>> >> >> members, as other Republicans have done. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Merry Christmas. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On 12/20/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> > Hey Wayne! >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > How do ya think stereotypes get started? Any truth to >> >> >>> >> >> > them? >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > Hey Vince! >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > Well, the last thing I wanted to come across as, was >> >> >>> condescending! >> >> >>> >> >> > Yea, >> >> >>> >> >> I >> >> >>> >> >> > am an arrogant asshole, but usually a pretty friendly >> asshole! >> >> >>> Nope, >> >> >>> >> >> > not >> >> >>> >> >> > pacifying anyone, ya wanna hear the truth? Come on over >> and >> >> >>> >> >> > I >> >> >>> will >> >> >>> >> >> > shed >> >> >>> >> >> > the light for ya! >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > Good to see ya, and Merry Christmas! >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > KeithInDC >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:03 PM, vince brackney >> >> >>> >> >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> You know it isn't really worth the effort to get Keith to >> see >> >> >>> >> >> >> the >> >> >>> >> other >> >> >>> >> >> >> side of the coin. Nothing more condescending than someone >> who >> >> >>> claims >> >> >>> >> >> they >> >> >>> >> >> >> are not prejudice and then make the statements that he >> does. >> >> It >> >> >>> like >> >> >>> >> >> >> saying >> >> >>> >> >> >> I have gay friends so I am not a hater, when really they >> are >> >> >>> >> >> >> just >> >> >>> >> >> >> pacifying >> >> >>> >> >> >> us. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> He is really saying these things based on his experience >> >> >>> >> >> >> of >> >> >>> >> >> >> years >> >> >>> >> ago, >> >> >>> >> >> and >> >> >>> >> >> >> I suspect that was before DADT was even in existence. He >> has >> >> >>> >> >> >> opinion >> >> >>> >> >> just >> >> >>> >> >> >> like everyone else. And everyone has the right to his or >> hers >> >> >>> >> >> >> own >> >> >>> >> >> opinion. >> >> >>> >> >> >> I >> >> >>> >> >> >> just wish it wasn't aired in this group. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I am very thankful for the straight friends I do have that >> >> >>> >> >> >> are >> >> >>> truly >> >> >>> >> >> >> not >> >> >>> >> >> >> prejudice and except me for who I am. Wish we had more of >> >> >>> >> >> >> them >> >> >>> >> >> >> in >> >> >>> >> >> >> the >> >> >>> >> >> >> world. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:26 PM, wayne berry < >> >> >>> [email protected]> >> >> >>> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> oh god, keith, i love ya! but do not tell me that you >> really >> >> >>> can't >> >> >>> >> see >> >> >>> >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >>> forest for the trees? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> heterosexuality represents 90% of the population. in fact >> if >> >> i >> >> >>> am >> >> >>> >> not >> >> >>> >> >> >>> carrying a CD by madonna in my rainbow colored purse, no >> one >> >> >>> ever >> >> >>> >> >> >>> suspects >> >> >>> >> >> >>> i'm gay! no one suspects my husband is bisexual even when >> he >> >> >>> says >> >> >>> >> >> >>> judas >> >> >>> >> >> >>> priest is his favorite metal band! because most people >> >> >>> >> >> >>> are >> >> >>> >> >> >>> straight, >> >> >>> >> >> the >> >> >>> >> >> >>> assumption both gays AND straights operate under is that >> >> >>> >> >> >>> when >> >> >>> you >> >> >>> >> meet >> >> >>> >> >> a >> >> >>> >> >> >>> man >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you recognize that odds are pretty good he likes the >> ladies >> >> >>> >> >> >>> - >> >> >>> you >> >> >>> >> got >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a >> >> >>> >> >> 9 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> in >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 10 chance and rarely will you be wrong. except when you >> ARE >> >> >>> wrong. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> stereotypes exist because in any group you can name there >> >> >>> >> >> >>> are >> >> >>> often >> >> >>> >> >> >>> people >> >> >>> >> >> >>> who fit certain ideas that are recognized - some jews ARE >> >> >>> >> >> >>> cheap, >> >> >>> >> some >> >> >>> >> >> >>> white >> >> >>> >> >> >>> people ARE incredibly "uptight", some gays DO prefer >> flowers >> >> to >> >> >>> >> >> >>> football... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> but within any stereotype there are plenty enough >> >> >>> >> >> >>> dissonances >> >> >>> >> >> >>> to >> >> >>> >> >> >>> reveal >> >> >>> >> >> a >> >> >>> >> >> >>> stereotype for what it is... a careless and casual >> painting >> >> of >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a >> >> >>> >> large >> >> >>> >> >> >>> group >> >> >>> >> >> >>> of people as being all the same, when indeed none of us >> are. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> no one has to say they are straight because there are so >> >> >>> >> >> >>> many >> >> >>> >> >> >>> of >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you >> >> >>> >> >> that >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you can scarcely imagine people who are not like you. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> my jobs in kitchens are not as regimented as the >> >> >>> >> >> >>> military, >> >> yet >> >> >>> >> there's >> >> >>> >> >> >>> still a certain amount of macho involved in the job! but >> >> >>> >> >> >>> here >> >> >>> >> >> >>> is >> >> >>> >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >>> thing... in all but the most antiseptic atmospheres, >> someone >> >> is >> >> >>> >> gonna >> >> >>> >> >> ask >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you about your life outside the job. and there is nothing >> >> that >> >> >>> >> sounds >> >> >>> >> >> >>> worse >> >> >>> >> >> >>> than saying you don't have a girlfriend or a wife or even >> >> just >> >> >>> some >> >> >>> >> >> girl >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you >> >> >>> >> >> >>> bang now and again, than saying, "oh, i'm sorry i don't >> talk >> >> >>> about >> >> >>> >> >> >>> personal >> >> >>> >> >> >>> stuff like that." or weirder if you constantly avoid the >> >> >>> question. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> when >> >> >>> >> >> >>> there is no penalty for telling the truth you are much >> less >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a >> >> >>> freak >> >> >>> >> >> when >> >> >>> >> >> >>> you >> >> >>> >> >> >>> answer truthfully, "well, no i don't have a wife or a >> >> >>> girlfriend... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> i'm >> >> >>> >> >> >>> gay >> >> >>> >> >> >>> and i have a husband/boyfriend... ' or even, "i'm not >> seeing >> >> >>> anyone >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 'special' right now, but i'm doing OK, if ya catch my >> >> >>> >> >> >>> drift." >> >> >>> >> >> >>> i mean on one hand being gay informs a lot of my life (my >> >> >>> >> >> >>> tastes >> >> >>> >> >> >>> are >> >> >>> >> >> >>> somewhat different from yours, observably, aren't they?) >> but >> >> in >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> >> >> most >> >> >>> >> >> >>> mundane aspects of life - the need for personal >> connection, >> >> the >> >> >>> >> >> >>> need >> >> >>> >> >> >>> to >> >> >>> >> >> >>> eat, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> the need to have some sort of meaning in your work? it's >> the >> >> >>> same >> >> >>> >> for >> >> >>> >> >> >>> a >> >> >>> >> >> >>> straight guy as a gay guy. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> i really can't understand your need to cling to a fairly >> >> >>> outdated >> >> >>> >> >> concept >> >> >>> >> >> >>> of what a gay man is when you are the moderator of a >> >> >>> >> >> >>> group >> >> that >> >> >>> >> gives >> >> >>> >> >> you >> >> >>> >> >> >>> every evidence of a gay men who are far from those >> >> >>> >> >> >>> stereotypical >> >> >>> >> >> >>> pictures. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Keith In Tampa >> >> >>> >> >> >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Hello Mustang! Good to see ya! >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> First, I knew, when I wrote my initial missive, that >> there >> >> >>> would >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> be >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> at >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> least one thinking, "common sense" kinda guy (<Grin!!> >> >> >>> asshole!!) >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> who >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> would >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> call me on my last missive! Touche'! >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> It is in fact a hard concept that I was attempting to >> >> frame, >> >> >>> and >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> you >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> are correct....Sort of. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Yes, as I stated, the military cultivates a "Macho" >> image, >> >> and >> >> >>> it >> >> >>> >> is >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> hard >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> to not separate the Macho Man who is the ladies' man. >> This >> >> is >> >> >>> in >> >> >>> >> >> direct >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> conflict with my statement that the military does not >> allow >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> for >> >> >>> >> those >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> who >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> wear their sexual identity on their sleeve. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> There are a number of men in the military who do in fact >> >> play >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> "cassanova" role. I will admit that to a degree, this >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> is >> a >> >> >>> double >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> standard >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> and in conflict with my premise. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Having said that, in my 53 years, I have yet to meet a >> >> >>> >> Heterosexual, >> >> >>> >> >> who >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> identifies himself as a, "Heterosexual". That his whole >> >> life >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> revolves >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> around being, "Heterosexual". His politics; his >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> social >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> life; >> >> >>> >> his >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> mannerisms; his diet; his wardrobe; his decor; his >> >> passions, >> >> >>> >> likes, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> dislikes, hatreds, loves, and yes, sexual appetite, are >> all >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> defined >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> by >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> his >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> "Straightness". >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Please point this/these individual(s) out to me. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Therein lies the distinction, and no, nothing about the >> >> repeal >> >> >>> of >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> DADT >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> will change the rejection by the United States Military >> on >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> this >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> one >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> major >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> issue, of Gay men or women who choose to defend our >> Nation. >> >> >>> Just >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> like >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> their >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> straight counterparts, they cannot and will not be able >> to >> >> >>> >> broadcast >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> their >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> sexual proclivities, as is done so much in the Gay >> >> community, >> >> >>> and >> >> >>> >> >> maybe >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> in >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> some Heterosexual social circles; (Like the >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Nudist/Swapping >> >> >>> >> crews). >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> KeithInDC >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Mustang < >> >> >>> [email protected] >> >> >>> >> >> >wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Keith, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> While I agree with many, if not most, things you say we >> >> >>> disagree >> >> >>> >> on >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> a >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> couple. This being one of them. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> "The military does not allow for ANYONE, and this will >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> include >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> heterosexuals as well as homosexuals, to wear their >> >> sexuality >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> openly, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> or to >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> broadcast their sexual likes or dislikes publicly. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> " >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Heterosexuals already do wear their sexuality >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> preference >> >> >>> openly. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Are you saying that everyone will suddenly be forbidden >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> any >> >> >>> >> >> opportunity >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> to display or even have pictures of their family and >> >> friends? >> >> >>> No >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> one >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> will >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> be allowed to admit they write, call, or discuss any >> >> >>> >> communications >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> with >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> their wives, husbands, girlfriends or boyfriends? No >> one >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> will >> >> >>> be >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> allowed to >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> talk about how things are going at home or plans after >> >> >>> discharge? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> While on >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> leave, no one can invite a male or female military >> friend >> >> to >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> spend >> >> >>> >> >> the >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Holidays with a spouse, or to openly have two Dads or >> two >> >> >>> Moms? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> The Israeli military has not gone to hell in a hand >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> basket. >> >> >>> They >> >> >>> >> >> have >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> no problem with both genders or gay people being >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> drafted >> >> and >> >> >>> then >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> working >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> cohesively. It's the same as acceptance of blacks and >> >> women >> >> >>> was >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> decades >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> ago. Much ado about nothing. I am certain our >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> military >> >> will >> >> >>> be >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> able >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> to >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> keep their minds focused on the tasks assigned. Anyone >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> who >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> is >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> qualified >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> should have the right to apply to defend our nation. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Absolute >> >> >>> >> 100% >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> heterosexuality should not be a requirement. Nothing >> will >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> change. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Mustang >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Bigotry disguised as morality is still bigotry just as >> an >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> outhouse >> >> >>> >> >> with >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> marble columns is still an outhouse. - D.A. Ridgely >> >> (whomever >> >> >>> he >> >> >>> >> is) >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> ------------------------------ >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> *From:* Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> *Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 9:18:24 AM >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Historical Pictorial] Victory! Senate >> >> Repeals >> >> >>> >> ‘Don’t >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Ask, Don’t Tell’, Despite 31 Republican No Votes and >> John >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> McCain's >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Fillibuster Attempt >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> No question, I see this issue from a different >> perspective >> >> >>> than I >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> believe most do here in HP. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> I don't see the DADT repeal as being all that >> significant, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and >> >> >>> >> >> although >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> I agree with Rob and his assessment, I also think >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> that >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> there >> >> >>> is >> >> >>> >> a >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> major >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> component to all of this, that Rob, or anyone else in >> the >> >> >>> group >> >> >>> >> has >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> touched >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> upon. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> The military does not allow for ANYONE, and this will >> >> include >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> heterosexuals as well as homosexuals, to wear their >> >> sexuality >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> openly, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> or to >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> broadcast their sexual likes or dislikes publicly. In >> >> other >> >> >>> >> words, >> >> >>> >> >> NO >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> ONE >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> in the military can be or will be identified by their >> >> sexual >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> proclivities or >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> sexual identification, which is a common factor in the >> Gay >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> community. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> This >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> is where so many in the Gay community are mistaken. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> The military will boot out a service member who is an >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> admitted >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> adulterer. Service members who are into any type of >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> sado-masochistic activities and make them public will >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> be >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> summarily >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> discharged. Those service members who are into >> "swinging" >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and >> >> >>> >> have >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> multiple >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> sexual partners, and who make that aspect of their >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> lives >> >> >>> public, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> will >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> be >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> shown the door and discharged. All branches of the >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> service >> >> >>> >> will >> >> >>> >> >> not >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> condone any member who bases his or her lifestyle upon >> >> their >> >> >>> >> sexual >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> identiy. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Nothng has changed. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Just as important, the military does in fact have and >> >> embrace >> >> >>> a >> >> >>> >> >> "Macho" >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> image. This is requisite for combat. Yes, there are >> women >> >> in >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> service >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> but not in combat arms. The lifestyle is tough, rugged >> and >> >> >>> most >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> of >> >> >>> >> >> the >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> time >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> uncomfortable. The stereotypical Gay male will not be >> >> >>> condoned. >> >> >>> >> The >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> combat >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> units of the Army and Marines are all male and all the >> >> males >> >> >>> talk >> >> >>> >> >> about >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> doing their girl friends as they charge the enemy with >> >> cigars >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> hanging >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> out >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> their mouths; not penises. This is the image that our >> >> >>> military >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> cultivates. It is good for morale, it is good for unit >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> cohesiveness, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> most importantly, it is but one component of what makes >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> our >> >> >>> >> military >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> the >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> mightiest in the world. Again, this image is not >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> going >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> to >> >> >>> >> change. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Historical >> >> >>> >> Pictorial, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> which is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing >> on >> >> >>> >> historical >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> media, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> >> >>> chronicled >> >> >>> >> >> past! >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> Historical >> >> >>> >> Pictorial, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> which is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing >> on >> >> >>> >> historical >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> media, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> and discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> >> >>> chronicled >> >> >>> >> >> past! >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> -- >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Pictorial, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> which >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on >> >> historical >> >> >>> >> media, >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> and >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> chronicled >> >> >>> past! >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> >> >> >>> - wayne. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> goto> http://waynes-nude-musicians.blogspot.com/ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> http://blueguitar.tumblr.com/ >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >>> Pictorial, >> >> >>> >> >> which >> >> >>> >> >> >>> is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on >> >> historical >> >> >>> >> media, >> >> >>> >> >> and >> >> >>> >> >> >>> discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> chronicled >> >> >>> past! >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >>> >> >> >> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >>> Pictorial, >> >> >>> >> >> which >> >> >>> >> >> >> is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on >> >> >>> >> >> >> historical >> >> >>> >> >> >> media, >> >> >>> >> >> and >> >> >>> >> >> >> discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> chronicled >> >> >>> past! >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >>> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > -- >> >> >>> >> >> > Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >>> Pictorial, >> >> >>> >> >> > which >> >> >>> >> >> is >> >> >>> >> >> > the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on historical >> >> >>> >> >> > media, >> >> >>> >> >> > and >> >> >>> >> >> > discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> >> >>> >> >> > chronicled >> >> >>> >> >> > past! >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> > For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >>> >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >> >> >>> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> >> >>> >> >> Have a great day, >> >> >>> >> >> Tommy >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >> >> >>> >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >> >>> >> >> For options & help see >> >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> * Visit our other community at >> >> >>> >> >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >> >>> >> >> * It's active and moderated. 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