Tim Bray writes:
> ...
> A few weeks ago, I decided to add a new server. I had a box which has no
> reason not to be in the pool.  I was thinking - I'm going to try and
> find some new upstreams for the new server.  All my existing pool
> servers depend on the generosity of one university.  And the use of
> those servers comes from when I had servers in the same room at that
> university with an almost directly peered network.  Many years on, I can
> do better. 
> 
> So I started on the list of UK servers at
> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/StratumTwoTimeServers
> 
> Well, what a pile of out of date crap.   Many of the IPs are just people
> with home ADSL on static IP.  Most don't work.   I got to the point
> where I'm thinking `should I just buy a GPS card`.
> 
> So I think any effort to make it easier for pool operators to setup
> their server is a good thing.
> 
> I was a bit dismayed by the reply from Brad Knowles.   It read to me
> like `somebody had a good idea to have some very basic data validation
> on the list and that wasn't my idea, and I don't like it`.  Maybe that
> isn't how it was meant to come across. I think it is a good idea for
> lists of servers to be automatically checked.  

If you're offering to help write those checks and work on the automated
testing and validation of the items in the Servers web then please le me
know.

If you're making a wish, I hope it comes true.

> The pool is an amazing thing.  Anything we can do to help people add new
> servers is a good thing.

Yes, and when it comes to providing more than "what is the quality of
the specific server that has been returned", it's arguable whether or
not the current setup is sufficient.

The issue of "I want to be a server in the pool but I don't know whow
*I* should be talking to in order to provide backup time sources for my
machine", then the answer is either something like the Servers web, or
just use the pool to provide other servers.

This is an easy thing to address if you want to solve 90% of the
problem.  If you want a more robust solution, it's much more difficult
to solve.

> BTW, I'd be happy to host some kind of timeserver.  If anybody has a
> suggestion for an atomic/GPS clock that I can fit in my server room. 
> I've easy access to outside for an antenna and a 100M leased line.  I've
> got a USB GPS, but I suspect that won't be good enough.

How much do you want to spend?

-- 
Harlan Stenn <[email protected]>
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