Crystal Kolipe <kolip...@exoticsilicon.com> writes:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 11:24:34AM -0700, Aaron Bieber wrote: >> >> Crystal Kolipe <kolip...@exoticsilicon.com> writes: >> >> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 11:05:12AM -0700, Aaron Bieber wrote: >> >> "Knowing" the tools isn't the problem. jcs@ knows how to use tar. I know >> >> how to use tar. The problem is that people send things totally >> >> differently and there is no agreed upon "standard". GH would remedy this >> >> because everything would become a diff - plain text! >> > >> > So you want to enforce your "standard", I.E. GitHub, on everybody? >> > >> > If we're going to have a "standard", why not make it the lowest common >> > denominator, so that people who are comfortable with creating their own >> > tools can easily handle it the way they want to? Which is, basically, >> > the whole unix philosophy anyway. >> > >> >> Also if people don't want to use the GH approach - they don't have to! >> > >> > But the use of GitHub would become like a virus, in that it also affects >> > people who don't want to use it. >> > >> >> at no point did jcs suggest that we make everyone get a GH account and >> >> switch to using it exclusively. >> > >> > Go and read the Linux kernel archives from 20 years ago, and the flamewars >> > over the use of BitKeeper to manage the kernel source. >> >> I don't even know how to respond to this. You are saying that GH usage >> will infect people and then they will be forced to use it? > > Not really, no. > > I'm saying that once some people start using GitHub to automatically generate > diffs and send them to this mailing list, then the next step will likely be > that development starts moving off of the mailing list altogether, and only > accessible via a tedious pointy-clicky webbrowser interface, rather than as > free-format conversation on a mailing list, which has worked fine ever since > the OpenBSD project first began. > >> That seems a bit far fetched to me. But maybe that's the mindvirus at >> work! >> >> No idea what linux kernel archievs from 20 years ago have to do with any >> of this. > > Well, you've really answered your own question there. > I mean contextually with the conversation around openbsd, cvs and a new process. Obviously. > Do you even know why git was created? What came before it? I feel like you are trying to undermine my credibility with this statement. How much experience do you have committing things in OpenBSD with cvs? Here is my experience: http://www.oxide.org/cvs/abieber.html Maybe we should change the topic to "On the subject of non-OpenBSD developers opinions on the process of developing OpenBSD" :P
