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> -----Original Message----- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:16 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > > > > Our interns love Linux, but the PHB (pointy-haired boss) > won't let them > install it--even if it is their own copy. > > They might want to try Knoppix. It's a Linux distro that > does not require > installation - it boots from the CD and doesn't have to write > anything to > the hard drive. Any persistent data can be saved to a floppy. > > But, on the other hand, maybe Mr. PHB needs to live with the > consequences of > his decisions. In PHB-Think (an oxymoronic term), interns are cheap, > abusable, and disposable. Almost like regular employees, eh? ;-) > > Best regards, > Ivan Baggett > Bagotronix Inc. > website: www.bagotronix.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > > > > Unfortunately my CEO has nowhere to go up to. My > department head is an > engineer and a good guy. We'd have new stuff if it were up to him. > > > > Our interns love Linux, but the PHB (pointy-haired boss) > won't let them > install it--even if it is their own copy. > > > > We are all pretty creative around here--it's good for the soul. > > > > Thanx, > > Michael Badillo > > > > From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/09/18 Thu AM 11:37:27 EDT > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > > > > > My company won't upgrade computers, much less software. > Getting a new > > copy of Windows even is like pulling teeth. Our interns > work on one P266 > > (two people). I wish there was an upgrade for CEOs. > > > > Maybe it's because Windows' purchase price and licensing > terms are so much > > less tolerable than they once were? I have put the brakes on new > Microsoft > > purchases at my company because of this. Windows Product > Activation, > > Licensing 6.0 (a.k.a. Software Assurance), and a 100% price > increase in 4 > > years doesn't exactly give me warm fuzzies about buying > more of their > > products. > > > > Is it any wonder that people are reluctant to spend money > on computers and > > software? Consider: > > > > 1) Anything you buy WILL become obsolete in less than 3 years > > 2) Any software you buy WILL have flaws (bugs) and there is > no warranty > > 3) Support is practically non-existent > > 4) Probability of failure is very high (hardware failure, > data corruption, > > etc.) > > 5) Each new model/version requires some degree of re-learning on the > user's > > part > > 6) Integration with other existing systems is always a concern, and > > sometimes a big problem > > 7) The resale/salvage value is nearly zero. In fact, it > costs to dispose > of > > old equipment. > > > > Pretty bad deal, eh? > > > > I can relate to your interns' plight. While getting my BSEE, I was > working > > part-time for a local (Tallahassee) traffic products > company in the late > > 80's. They started me out in the repair shop. I had to > share a scope and > > soldering iron with another tech. But I got creative. > There was a filing > > cabinet drawer full of old Weller soldering iron parts. > From a pile of > old > > soldering irons, I was able to salvage enough parts to build a fully > > functional iron. I had to modify the case (you know, those > blue plastic > > Weller cases) by sawing a larger rectangular hole to fit a > switch and > > indicator from a different model unit. I got out my trusty > Swiss army > knife > > saw blade and went to it. Shortly thereafter, I had a > working iron as > good > > as any of the other techs. Still had to share the scope, > until I bought a > u > > sed NLS mini-scope from a friend in physics class. I had > always wanted > one > > of those NLS mini-scopes for my own use, anyway. I took my > mini-scope to > > work with me every day, and back home at night. The scope > wasn't that > > great, but it was adequate for troubleshooting work. > > > > Now, maybe your CEO is a cheapskate and perhaps numerous > other expletives. > > But tell your interns to get creative. Maybe you have some > old PCs laying > > around that can be salvaged for their use? If you can't > get new Microsoft > > licenses, maybe a Linux distro could be used? It depends > on what work the > > interns are doing, of course. If they are doing > spreadsheet grunt work or > > something like that, OpenOffice (free) can do just about > everything Excel > > can. If they are doing PCB design, they gotta have Windows > to run Protel > > on. > > > > The best way to get rid of your boss is to make him look > good so he will > be > > promoted away from you... > > > > Best regards, > > Ivan Baggett > > Bagotronix Inc. > > website: www.bagotronix.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:29 AM > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > > > > > > > My company won't upgrade computers, much less software. > Getting a new > > copy of Windows even is like pulling teeth. Our interns > work on one P266 > > (two people). I wish there was an upgrade for CEOs. > > > > > > We've had 99 SE for maybe four months, but we bought it > new--two copies > in > > fact. So I guess that means they still make it. > > > > > > Michael Badillo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
