OK, let's start from the beginning: On Jul 13, 9:36 am, Cantrelle Vincent <vcantre...@gmail.com> wrote: > I hope that I have a > "truncated" view of the situation, and that the number of users for > Prototype.js is still high enough, and the "motivation" of the core > team too, so that this library will be still maintained / improved in > the futur.
Prototype's development over the past few years has been typified by a few months of inactivity, then a furious week of activity, and I doubt that will change anytime soon. It happens that way because I'm juggling several different open-source projects on top of my day job, and so I try to rotate between them every few weeks. So don't read anything into the periods of inactivity. I don't have any plans to stop working on Prototype. On Jul 15, 12:49 pm, Phil Petree <phil.pet...@gmail.com> wrote: > I certainly have the resouces to host the forums and would have no problem > in putting them up and maintaining them but it would take a consensus of the > powers that be because if none of the guys that answer the majority of the > questions are interested then it would just be like the french forums when > no one replied. If people feel like this mailing list isn't serving their needs, I've got no problem with someone wanting to start a forum somewhere else. Frankly, I think the best solution would be to encourage people with support questions to post on StackOverflow and tag their questions with "prototype" or "prototypejs" or something, but I'm open to other suggestions. Certainly, if someone were willing to maintain some forums, I'd be happy to give them the vouch, because that's a task we know we'll never have time for. On Jul 21, 8:42 pm, Walter Lee Davis <wa...@wdstudio.com> wrote: > The current documentation (1.7) is generated directly from the source > code using a tool written by one of the core guys -- I think it's > called jsDoc or something like that. Anyway, it's just static HTML, > CSS and JavaScript (naturally) once that tool is done. > > I think that if there was enough energy for moderation, or some sort > of community moderation system, that a great add-on to the site would > be something like Disqus, so the user comments and corrections could > be added to the mix. Our documentation tool is called PDoc, and it's Tobie's brainchild. In fact, he had spent some time modifying it to generate one HTML page per method for precisely this purpose — so that we could enable Disqus commenting on every page. I think the project got shelved when Tobie's daughter was born, or else when he started working for Facebook. I'll follow up with him and see if that's at a point where he can hand it off to someone else. I share the concerns about moderation, because while I agree that PHP's documentation comments are a net benefit, many of them contain sloppy code and încorrect information. But I think Disqus's "likes" are a good start. Hopefully the cream will rise. On Jul 26, 2:42 pm, Phil Petree <phil.pet...@gmail.com> wrote: > The core devs need to appoint a "Community Activist" whose responsibility it > is to build the community and who has the decision making authority to > implement these changes without bugging the devs with all our needs. T.J. used to serve in this role, but stepped back some time ago because of other commitments. You can blame me for not seeking out someone to take his place; that's mostly why the documentation tickets have been languishing on Lighthouse. I'm happy to "appoint" whoever you guys think would do a good job. On Aug 17, 10:04 am, Phil Petree <phil.pet...@gmail.com> wrote: > My fear is that prototype will ultimately face the same fate... be a > technically superior product with a few guys pitching in and carrying the > weight (anyone who follows this feed knows who the guys are who always pitch > in with an answer) while marketing, support, easy access to developed libs > and all the other goodies go ignored which causes adoption of the product to > dwindle because these things exist on another platform. I know the major libraries have had a playfully-competitive relationship for years, but I'm not altogether concerned with the "market share" of Prototype. Someone asked about this on Quora, so I'll link my answer [1] here so as not to re-state myself. I will say, though, that if we're crowning winners and losers, then jQuery "won" a long time ago. It is certainly the _de facto_ JavaScript library for web development. The good news is that the "losers" of the war aren't looking so bad; libraries like Prototype, MooTools, and Dojo still have loyal user bases, and I doubt they're going away. So here are the next steps, I think: I'm going to touch base with Tobie and learn the state of his Disqus project. Meanwhile, weigh in and let me know who you think could fill T.J.'s gargantuan shoes in the realm of documentation and community activism. Cool? By the way: I did stop watching this list closely a while back, but told myself I'd check in from time to time. Clearly I've dropped the ball. I'll try to do better. Meanwhile, I'm always accessible via Twitter (@andrewdupont), GitHub (savetheclocktower), or at this very e- mail address. Cheers, Andrew [1] http://www.quora.com/What-must-Prototype-JS-do-to-become-the-library-of-choice -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prototype & script.aculo.us" group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
