On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 10:39, Jelle Zijlstra <jelle.zijls...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > El lun, 7 mar 2022 a las 15:35, Chris Angelico (<ros...@gmail.com>) escribió: >> >> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 10:20, Brendan Barnwell <brenb...@brenbarn.net> wrote: >> > >> > On 2022-03-06 14:43, Chris Angelico wrote: >> > > This keeps happening. All the successful ideas seem to happen >> > > elsewhere, notably on typing-sig. >> > >> > You seem to see that as a positive thing, but I would be happier if >> > fewer typing-related changes made it in. >> > >> >> I'm not sure whether it's positive or not. All I can see is that >> changes get proposed on typing-sig and actually make it into the >> language, but changes that get proposed on python-ideas are invariably >> shot down in flames, no matter how good or bad. I do NOT believe that >> every idea on typing-sig is good and that every idea on python-ideas >> is bad, so what is it that makes typing-sig actually successful in >> refining ideas into usable form that python-ideas is failing at? >> > An important point here is that most typing changes aren't language changes, > but just new things added to typing.py. Getting a library function changed or > added is a lot easier than adding new syntax. Besides, typing is much younger > than the language, so there is more remaining opportunity for useful > additions. And there are plenty of ideas that get proposed around typing that > don't make it to PEPs. >
Not ALL typing changes are just new things in typing.py, so that doesn't cover everything. And yes, I am sure that a lot of things get proposed and not implemented - my point is that typing-sig is successfully finding the good ideas and refining them into actual code, but python-ideas is 100% shooting ideas to pieces. ChrisA _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/UL4XNZV63U4MKEOJG2BIE24SI2A5ZE4L/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/