> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:42:41 +1100
> From: Wayne Heming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
[...snip...]
> 
> This is exactly how sendmail operates, and yes it may be 5 days
> instead of 4. If there is a way around it I would like to know, but a
> lot of "so called" sendmail gurus have looked and think it is correct.
>

We are going a bit far a field, but...

If the receipt of a message puts a user "over-quota" (hard quota), the
file system is not supposed to let the message get written to disk.  It
returns an error that indicates "over-quota".  The RECEIVING sendmail
is uspposed to return a 4.x.x error code (indicates a temporary
error).

The SENDING sendmail will continue to try to deliver the mail until the
queue timeout, normally 5 days (but I've seen exchange servers set as
low as 4 hours...).  At that time the maill is returned as
undeliverable to the originator.

[...snip...]
> 
> I was just offering another scenario where someone receives multiple
> copies of the same message. I have only seen it once, and it was one
> of the users with an empty box that complained about it.

The majority of these multiple delivery scenarios turns out to be a
client side problem in that it cannot decipher what popper is sending.
It will receive the message anyway, but will not mark it for deletion.
Thus popper keeps trying to resend.  Use pine os some such MUA to
delete the message in question.  (I have, upon occassion, used vi
directly on the spool to delete the message - AFTER LOCKING IT FIRST
though...)

I HAVE seen instances (perhaps 4 over the past 8 years) where the
RECEIVING sendmail just "hangs up" on the SENDING sendmail before the
message receipt is properly acknowledged to the sender.  Thus the
SENDING sendmail keeps trying to deliver the mail.

This last case, however, will show up in the system logs whereas the
client issue will not.

(I think I have the above correct...)

Regards,
Gregory Hicks

> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> At 12:53 AM 24/12/2003, Joe Maimon wrote:
> 
> 
> >Alan Brown wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Wayne Heming wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>It then returns an error to the sender saying that a mailbox is 
full and it
> >>>will retry sending for 4 days.
> >>>
> >>>
> >To the best of my recollection the default is 5 days.
> >
> >>>sendmail then sends the message to all addressees and continues to 
do so
> >>>until it is successfully delivered to all addressees.
> >>>
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