Hm. If something has to be "known by" its title to avoid getting a conventional collective title, doesn't that imply a certain amount of exposure to the public before the time of cataloguing in order for people to become familiar with the resource (get to know it)? (Certainly, there aren't going to be citations in reference sources to a new publication).
(This was where the "distinctive title" notion from AACR2 made sense. You could guess that "There once was a girl who..." would be remembered, whereas, "new and collected poems" might not.) So, is this provision just a grandfather clause to keep us from having to go back and change thousands of records? On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Casey A Mullin <cmul...@stanford.edu>wrote: > Adger, > > It is still possible to identify such a collection (compilation) by a > distinctive title. The justification is found in the 1st sentence at > 6.2.2.10: > > "If a compilation of works is known by a title that is used in resources > embodying that compilation or in reference sources, apply the instructions > at 6.2.2.4 <http://document.php?id=rdachp6&target=rda6-2060#rda6-2060>– > 6.2.2.5 <http://document.php?id=rdachp6&target=rda6-2146#rda6-2146>." > > The best practice for when to apply this condition has not really been > established. Certainly, "Leaves of grass" by Whitman would qualify for most > catalogers, but new collections published for the first time probably > wouldn't. > > Cheers, > Casey > > > On 3/21/2013 5:15 AM, Adger Williams wrote: > > I think this angle didn't come up in the previous thread. If so, I > apologize in advance. > > Under AACR2, we were not to apply a conventional collective title to a > collection of works like poems or short stories that had a distinctive > title proper. I'm wondering if people will continue to observe this rule > (as a rule of thumb, perhaps?). > > Piece in hand. > Title proper: There once lived a girl who seduced her sister's husband and > he hanged himself > Conventional Collective Title: Short Stories. English. Selections. 2013 > > The title proper is certainly distinctive, and there is no name-title > authority record that records the relationship of the conventional > collective title to the work (the collection), but I find the conventional > collective title in the bibliographic record. > > RDA 6.2.2.10.3 doesn't seem to speak to this issue, and the LC PCC PS is > about whether to give authorized access points for the subordinate parts, > not for what to do with the preferred title of the collection as far as I > can tell. > > Thanks > > -- > Adger Williams > Colgate University Library > 315-228-7310 > awilli...@colgate.edu > > > -- > Casey A. Mullin > Head, Data Control Unit > Metadata Department > Stanford University Libraries650-736-0849 > cmullin@stanford.eduhttp://www.caseymullin.com > > -- > > "Those who need structured and granular data and the precise retrieval that > results from it to carry out research and scholarship may constitute an elite > minority rather than most of the people of the world (sadly), but that > talented and intelligent minority is an important one for the cultural and > technological advancement of humanity. It is even possible that if we did a > better job of providing access to such data, we might enable the enlargement > of that minority." > -Martha Yee > > -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu
