On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 07:30, Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:09:02AM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote:
> > Given the number of people who avoid X.0 releases, waiting instead for
> > X.[1,2,3] releases, I would not be suprised to see a slower adoption
> > rate. Some maye even see the 8.0 -> 9.0 as a "rush" deal, and as a
> > result be more likely to avoid 9.0. If you avoided 8.0 due to it being a
> > .0 release, you are likely, in the general case, to avoid 9.0 for the
> > same reason.
> 
> Let me be perfectly blunt here.  If you're avoiding a .0 release solely
> based on the numbering scheme, then you haven't earned the right to be a
> system administrator.  Every release needs to be evaluated based on its
> strenghts and weaknesses and how relevant it is to your environment.

I think you are being a bit arrogant here, Ed. I've been using RH since
3.x and am an RHCE. I've learned through *experience* that X.0 tends to
be buggy, since historically it consists of a host of new changes, such
as new kernel such as 2.0 -> 2.2 -> 2.4 -> 2.6(or new kernel prep as was
done in 7.0), new C libraries, etc.. Most of us have learned through
*experience* that RH's and other vendors' initial releases of a new
system (the X.0) tend to have many bugs, wich are discovered by people
to install it, and are then subsequently released in the .1,.2, and
occasionally .3 releases.

In fact, the X.0 being the buggier of the reelase set is inherent in
both open source and proprietary products. That's the point of release
early and release often.

It is my understanding that this release change is predicate on
significant changes that break binary compatibility, including the NPTL,
which is what, less than 6 months old? It is bound to have a host of new
bugs, and unexpected interactions in it's first release. For most o fus,
that is not a viable production system. We have made that decision
through experience. To use that decision as a tool to say we haven't
"earned the right to be a system administrator" is not exactly very
tactful or respectful of others' opinions, and downright insulting.


-- 
Bill Anderson
RHCE #807302597505773
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