Doug is correct that many different hypos, and actual denials of accommodations, were invoked.  The communion-wine hypo (and one apparent instance of denial of communion wine in a Colorado prison) was mentioned by, e.g., Senators Hatch (139 CR S14363, S14368), Lieberman (S14462), Hatfield (S14466) and Danforth (S14466-14467).  This was all in the context of the Reid Amendment on prisons.
 
Is it really so controversial that prisons should be "required" (as a condition on the receipt of federal funds) to allow religious prisoners to sip small amounts of wine during religious rituals? 
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    The animating question was that prisoners file frivolous lawsuits on every possible issue.  Many examples were discussed, but no single example was the animating question.
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Newsom Michael
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:52 AM
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That’s wrong.  Communion wine was the animating question.  Form can’t trump substance.

 

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I think he is referring to the vote on the Reid Amendment, to exclude prisons from RFRA.  That went down decisively but far from unanimously; 2:1 is a reasonable estimate.  There might have been some discussion of communion wine; supporters of RFRA were pointing to an unreported Colorado case where a guy on work release was let out to attend church but forbidden to take communion.  But I am as certain as it is possible to be 12 years after an event that there was no vote on communion wine.

 

Douglas Laycock

University of Texas Law School

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Austin, TX  78705

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   512-471-6988 (fax)

 

 


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I'm always learning something new.  The Senate voted separately on communion wine in the context of debating RFRA?  I thought I had read it all, but maybe not. 

 

Marci

 

In a message dated 6/2/2005 4:55:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If there is any one dietary demand that cannot be refused, communion wine is it.  The issue came up in the Senate debates on RFRA and by a thumping two-to-one vote, the Senate agreed with me.  If one looks at the question in historical context, the case against denying communion wine is overwhelming.

 

 


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