I agree with Joel.  Enough is enough.

John

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On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:14 AM, "Joel M. Halpern" <j...@joelhalpern.com>  
wrote:

> Personally, I would object to including that effort in the report.
> While I laud your efforts to try to pull things together.  I  
> personally
> find many of the distinctions ineffective or misleading.  The text
> itself is not wrong (generally), but I find it sufficiently unhelpful
> that I have not tried to analyze it for accuracy.
>
> Also, as those constraints were not adopted by the working group, and
> were not adopted by the proposers of the various approaches, including
> it in a survey of our work would not help the reader in any  
> significant
> fashion.
>
> Yours,
> Joel
>
>
>> http://www.firstpr.com.au/ip/ivip/RRG-2009/constraints/
>>
>>                   has been fine-tuned as a result of
>>                   considerable RRG discussion.  As far as I
>>                   know no-one objects to this attempt to
>>                   express the real constraints we are
>>                   operating within.  Quite a few people
>>                   expressed their support for this attempt -
>>                   though of course we all wish there were no
>>                   such constraints.
>>
>>                   I suggest that we work on a version of this
>>                   to be included in the RRG Report, which
>>                   the co-chairs will hopefully be able able
>>                   to find rough consensus support for.
>>
>>                   Could the Report include a section near
>>                   the front classifying the proposals into
>>                   various groups?
>>
>>
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