Hi Francois,

On 16 Aug, 23:43, François Bissey <f.r.bis...@massey.ac.nz> wrote:
> > Is there even a link from which Sympow can be downloaded so that one
> > can look through the code to see if it is worth salvaging. I can't
> > even find a webpage for Mark Watkins at the moment, let alone sympow.
>
> I asked that question on the 17th of February on this very same mailing list.
> No one could find a homepage for sympow at the time. There is a blurb about
> Mark on the University of Sydney's web page.
>
> sympow is a runtime dependency of "sage", that is you don't need it to build
> sage itself. You only need it if you want the functionality.

Thanks for that explanation!

>
> Basically if it doesn't link to the sage extension library it almost always
> can be installed later. Off those that can be installed afterwards a select 
> few
> will result in sage missing essential functionality or not working altogether
> (maxima comes to mind). We have a precise (we hope) list of these in sage-on-
> gentoo.

Where do I find "sage-on-gentoo"? And where would I find this list?

>
> If you weren't using sympow you won't be missing it and nothing would break.
> Nothing apart from lfunctions/sympow.py calls sympow and I don't think
> anything in that python file is called from anywhere else - it just provides
> the interface to talk to sympow. In short sympow could be made optional
> overnight by dropping it from the deps file.
>
> Francois

OK, I was understanding it was used by modular forms and elliptic
curves stuff for computing modular degrees or something, and so
imagined it hopelessly intertwined with those. Also, I think this
issue was brought up elsewhere and William said categorically he
needed it and didn't want it removed from Sage. But I might've gotten
that mixed up. I read so many threads they all become a blur after a
while.

I suppose if *someone* needs it, then it still has to be maintained. I
don't personally need it, or I would offer to maintain it. But the day
may soon come...

Bill.

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