Re: [AFMUG] List

[Jason McKemie]

Definitely did, just came back earlier today.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Was the list dead for two days, or was that just me?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List

[chuck]

I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on the AWS is 
getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put it off long enough. 
 Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to mailmanhost.com
Will probably take a few days.  

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] List

Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on anymore.  Unless 
everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.

Re: [AFMUG] List

[Jason McKemie]

Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals.

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018,  wrote:

> I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on the AWS
> is getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put it off long
> enough.  Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to
> mailmanhost.com
> Will probably take a few days.
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List
>
> Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on anymore.  Unless
> everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.
>

Re: [AFMUG] List

[Steve Jones]

i havent been drinking, so its ok
thats a lie though
i have been drinking
and its not ok


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018,  wrote:
>
>> I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on the AWS
>> is getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put it off long
>> enough.  Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to
>> mailmanhost.com
>> Will probably take a few days.
>>
>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List
>>
>> Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on anymore.  Unless
>> everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List

[Dave]

Wait something is changing...
 Do I need to move my cot :)


On 06/06/2018 04:40 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

i havent been drinking, so its ok
thats a lie though
i have been drinking
and its not ok


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie 
> wrote:


Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals.


On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running
on the AWS is getting progressively more and more flakey.  So,
I have put it off long enough.  Domain will move to GoDaddy
and the list will move to mailmanhost.com 
Will probably take a few days.
*From:* Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] List
Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on
anymore.  Unless everyone is just outside as opposed to in
front of a computer like me.




--

Re: [AFMUG] List

[Carl Peterson]

I read "Do I need to move my cot " as Do I need to move my car...  City
life.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Dave  wrote:

> Wait something is changing...
>  Do I need to move my cot :)
>
>
>
> On 06/06/2018 04:40 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> i havent been drinking, so its ok
> thats a lie though
> i have been drinking
> and its not ok
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018,  wrote:
>>
>>> I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on the AWS
>>> is getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put it off long
>>> enough.  Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to
>>> mailmanhost.com
>>> Will probably take a few days.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List
>>>
>>> Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on anymore.  Unless
>>> everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.
>>>
>>
>
> --
>



-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] List

[Chuck McCown]

To drink or not to drink.  Pros and cons
Pros
Buzz

Cons
Dick stops working, even the next day
Ugly women look good to you
You hit on ugly women
You can fu*k up your ability to get insurance or a drivers license
Hangovers
Puke mouth
Kissing a puke mouth
Beer goggles
Beer gut
Puking
Cleaning up Puke
Screwing your buddies wife
Waking up in jail for no apparent reason
Waking up in your car not knowing where you are
Waking up not knowing where you are
Discovering you bought many rounds for the whole bar on your credit card
Waking up with a new girlfriend that you don’t know.
Learning you were making out with a totally fugly girl that is old enough to be 
your mother.
Puking in public venues before thousands of people
Waking up face down in a bathtub thinking you are dead because all you can see 
is white.  
Did I mention that your dick stops working...

So I have been told...


From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 3:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List

i havent been drinking, so its ok 
thats a lie though
i have been drinking
and its not ok


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie 
 wrote:

  Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals. 


  On Wednesday, June 6, 2018,  wrote:

I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on the AWS is 
getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put it off long enough. 
 Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to mailmanhost.com
Will probably take a few days.  

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] List

Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on anymore.  Unless 
everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.

Re: [AFMUG] List

[Steve Jones]

Where'd you get my resume? You been trolling my linkdn?

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 8:22 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> To drink or not to drink.  Pros and cons
> Pros
> Buzz
>
> Cons
> Dick stops working, even the next day
> Ugly women look good to you
> You hit on ugly women
> You can fu*k up your ability to get insurance or a drivers license
> Hangovers
> Puke mouth
> Kissing a puke mouth
> Beer goggles
> Beer gut
> Puking
> Cleaning up Puke
> Screwing your buddies wife
> Waking up in jail for no apparent reason
> Waking up in your car not knowing where you are
> Waking up not knowing where you are
> Discovering you bought many rounds for the whole bar on your credit card
> Waking up with a new girlfriend that you don’t know.
> Learning you were making out with a totally fugly girl that is old enough
> to be your mother.
> Puking in public venues before thousands of people
> Waking up face down in a bathtub thinking you are dead because all you can
> see is white.
> Did I mention that your dick stops working...
>
> So I have been told...
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 06, 2018 3:40 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List
>
> i havent been drinking, so its ok
> thats a lie though
> i have been drinking
> and its not ok
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018,  wrote:
>>
>>> I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on the AWS
>>> is getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put it off long
>>> enough.  Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to
>>> mailmanhost.com
>>> Will probably take a few days.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List
>>>
>>> Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on anymore.  Unless
>>> everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List

[Jaime Solorza]

Dobrynochi comrades

Jaime Solorza

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 8:47 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> Where'd you get my resume? You been trolling my linkdn?
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 8:22 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> To drink or not to drink.  Pros and cons
>> Pros
>> Buzz
>>
>> Cons
>> Dick stops working, even the next day
>> Ugly women look good to you
>> You hit on ugly women
>> You can fu*k up your ability to get insurance or a drivers license
>> Hangovers
>> Puke mouth
>> Kissing a puke mouth
>> Beer goggles
>> Beer gut
>> Puking
>> Cleaning up Puke
>> Screwing your buddies wife
>> Waking up in jail for no apparent reason
>> Waking up in your car not knowing where you are
>> Waking up not knowing where you are
>> Discovering you bought many rounds for the whole bar on your credit card
>> Waking up with a new girlfriend that you don’t know.
>> Learning you were making out with a totally fugly girl that is old enough
>> to be your mother.
>> Puking in public venues before thousands of people
>> Waking up face down in a bathtub thinking you are dead because all you
>> can see is white.
>> Did I mention that your dick stops working...
>>
>> So I have been told...
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 06, 2018 3:40 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List
>>
>> i havent been drinking, so its ok
>> thats a lie though
>> i have been drinking
>> and its not ok
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on the
>>>> AWS is getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put it off
>>>> long enough.  Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to
>>>> mailmanhost.com
>>>> Will probably take a few days.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List
>>>>
>>>> Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on anymore.  Unless
>>>> everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List

[Jason McKemie]

There are more pros:
Superman
A lot of fun
A bunch of those cons are also pros.

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> To drink or not to drink.  Pros and cons
> Pros
> Buzz
>
> Cons
> Dick stops working, even the next day
> Ugly women look good to you
> You hit on ugly women
> You can fu*k up your ability to get insurance or a drivers license
> Hangovers
> Puke mouth
> Kissing a puke mouth
> Beer goggles
> Beer gut
> Puking
> Cleaning up Puke
> Screwing your buddies wife
> Waking up in jail for no apparent reason
> Waking up in your car not knowing where you are
> Waking up not knowing where you are
> Discovering you bought many rounds for the whole bar on your credit card
> Waking up with a new girlfriend that you don’t know.
> Learning you were making out with a totally fugly girl that is old enough
> to be your mother.
> Puking in public venues before thousands of people
> Waking up face down in a bathtub thinking you are dead because all you can
> see is white.
> Did I mention that your dick stops working...
>
> So I have been told...
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 06, 2018 3:40 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List
>
> i havent been drinking, so its ok
> thats a lie though
> i have been drinking
> and its not ok
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018,  wrote:
>>
>>> I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on the AWS
>>> is getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put it off long
>>> enough.  Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to
>>> mailmanhost.com
>>> Will probably take a few days.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List
>>>
>>> Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on anymore.  Unless
>>> everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Awaiting the arrival of our new home.

Thanks for the help for the past 5 years Pauldont go anywhere:)

Glad you are smiling a little more of these days Chuck :)

Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Jason McKemie" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] List
Date: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 10:44 PM

There are more pros:Superman
A lot of fun
A bunch of those cons are also pros.

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, Chuck McCown  wrote:




To drink or not to drink.  Pros and cons

Pros

Buzz

 

Cons

Dick stops working, even the next day

Ugly women look good to you

You hit on ugly women

You can fu*k up your ability to get insurance or a drivers license

Hangovers

Puke mouth

Kissing a puke mouth

Beer goggles

Beer gut

Puking

Cleaning up Puke

Screwing your buddies wife

Waking up in jail for no apparent reason

Waking up in your car not knowing where you are

Waking up not knowing where you are

Discovering you bought many rounds for the whole bar on your credit 
card

Waking up with a new girlfriend that you don’t know.

Learning you were making out with a totally fugly girl that is old enough 
to be your mother.

Puking in public venues before thousands of people

Waking up face down in a bathtub thinking you are dead because all you can 
see is white.  

Did I mention that your dick stops working...

 

So I have been told...

 



 


From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 3:40 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List


 


i havent been drinking, so its ok 
thats a lie though

i have been drinking

and its not ok

 


 

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie 
 
wrote:

Good 
to hear, I'm having withdrawals. 



On Wednesday, June 6, 2018,  wrote:





I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on 
the AWS is getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put 
it off long enough.  Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move 
to mailmanhost.com

Will probably take a few days.  



 


From: Jason 
McKemie 

Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] List


 


Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on 
anymore.  Unless everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a 
computer like 
me.





 

Re: [AFMUG] List

[Carl Peterson]

"Waking up with a new girlfriend that you don’t know" belongs on both the
pro and con lists.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:31 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> Awaiting the arrival of our new home.
>
> Thanks for the help for the past 5 years Pauldont go anywhere:)
>
> Glad you are smiling a little more of these days Chuck :)
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jason McKemie" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] List
> Date: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 10:44 PM
>
> There are more pros:
> Superman
> A lot of fun
> A bunch of those cons are also pros.
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> To drink or not to drink.  Pros and cons
>> Pros
>> Buzz
>>
>> Cons
>> Dick stops working, even the next day
>> Ugly women look good to you
>> You hit on ugly women
>> You can fu*k up your ability to get insurance or a drivers license
>> Hangovers
>> Puke mouth
>> Kissing a puke mouth
>> Beer goggles
>> Beer gut
>> Puking
>> Cleaning up Puke
>> Screwing your buddies wife
>> Waking up in jail for no apparent reason
>> Waking up in your car not knowing where you are
>> Waking up not knowing where you are
>> Discovering you bought many rounds for the whole bar on your credit card
>> Waking up with a new girlfriend that you don’t know.
>> Learning you were making out with a totally fugly girl that is old enough
>> to be your mother.
>> Puking in public venues before thousands of people
>> Waking up face down in a bathtub thinking you are dead because all you
>> can see is white.
>> Did I mention that your dick stops working...
>>
>> So I have been told...
>>
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 06, 2018 3:40 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List
>>
>> i havent been drinking, so its ok
>> thats a lie though
>> i have been drinking
>> and its not ok
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good to hear, I'm having withdrawals.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am in the process of moving it.  AWS or whatever is running on the
>>>> AWS is getting progressively more and more flakey.  So, I have put it off
>>>> long enough.  Domain will move to GoDaddy and the list will move to
>>>> mailmanhost.com
>>>> Will probably take a few days.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:10 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List
>>>>
>>>> Is this list just done?  Seems to be off as much as on anymore.  Unless
>>>> everyone is just outside as opposed to in front of a computer like me.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] List Admin

[Paul McCall via Af]

Nate... send to me...  my admin is out , so it might be a couple hours

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:03 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] List Admin

Who do we talk to about some Technical questions about the list? Trying to get 
a user subscribed, but it says they're already subscribed.  No list email seems 
to be coming in for them though.

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] List Threading

[Mike Hammett via Af]

Works fine for me on Zimbra. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Rory McCann via Af"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:39:16 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] List Threading 

Is there anything that can be done to fix the message threading (or lack 
thereof) with this new list? 

Prior to the move to Amazon, things *mostly* threaded nicely based on 
subject, however now I'm seeing multiple separate threads related to the 
same discussion. 

I'm using Thunderchicken and Gmail. 

-- 
Rory McCann 
MKAP Technology Solutions 
Web: www.mkap.net 

Re: [AFMUG] List updates

[Shayne Lebrun via Af]

Rule 1: Don't change anything major on Friday, unless you like working
Saturday.  And Sunday.

Rule 2: Don't change anything major on Monday.  It's Monday.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] List updates

 

Guys,

 

We had a glitch switching over to "normal headers" with Amazon.  We are
putting it back the way it was while we work through this with Amazon.

 

We will provide updates as we work through it.

 

Thank you for your patience

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com  

pa...@pdmnet.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] List updates

[Paul McCall via Af]

Where's the fun in that Shayne?

It's not like we are doing a major tower upgrade today and tomorrow also.   Oh, 
yeah, we are doing that too :)

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun via Af
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates

Rule 1: Don't change anything major on Friday, unless you like working 
Saturday.  And Sunday.
Rule 2: Don't change anything major on Monday.  It's Monday.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] List updates

Guys,

We had a glitch switching over to "normal headers" with Amazon.  We are putting 
it back the way it was while we work through this with Amazon.

We will provide updates as we work through it.

Thank you for your patience

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com/>
pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>

Re: [AFMUG] List updates

[Dennis Burgess via Af]

Tuesdays are best J

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net <mailto:den...@linktechs.net>  - 314-735-0270 -
www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net> 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun via Af
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates

 

Rule 1: Don't change anything major on Friday, unless you like working
Saturday.  And Sunday.

Rule 2: Don't change anything major on Monday.  It's Monday.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] List updates

 

Guys,

 

We had a glitch switching over to "normal headers" with Amazon.  We are
putting it back the way it was while we work through this with Amazon.

 

We will provide updates as we work through it.

 

Thank you for your patience

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com/> 

pa...@pdmnet.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] List updates

[Ken Hohhof via Af]

I had one customer puzzled by the concept that we did “maintenance” on 
mailservers.  You mean like changing the oil?  Do you do it every year at the 
same time?


From: Dennis Burgess via Af 
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates

Tuesdays are best J

 

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun via Af
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates

 

Rule 1: Don’t change anything major on Friday, unless you like working 
Saturday.  And Sunday.

Rule 2: Don’t change anything major on Monday.  It’s Monday.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] List updates

 

Guys,

 

We had a glitch switching over to “normal headers” with Amazon.  We are putting 
it back the way it was while we work through this with Amazon.

 

We will provide updates as we work through it.

 

Thank you for your patience

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com

pa...@pdmnet.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] List updates

[Mike Hammett via Af]

Who doesn't work on Saturday and Sunday? Pfft 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Shayne Lebrun via Af"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 9:27:45 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates 



Rule 1: Don’t change anything major on Friday, unless you like working 
Saturday. And Sunday. 
Rule 2: Don’t change anything major on Monday. It’s Monday. 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af 
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 9:22 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] List updates 

Guys, 

We had a glitch switching over to “normal headers” with Amazon. We are putting 
it back the way it was while we work through this with Amazon. 

We will provide updates as we work through it. 

Thank you for your patience 

Paul McCall, Pres. 
PDMNet / Florida Broadband 
658 Old Dixie Highway 
Vero Beach, FL 32962 
772-564-6800 office 
772-473-0352 cell 
www.pdmnet.com 
pa...@pdmnet.net 

Re: [AFMUG] List updates

[Mathew Howard via Af]

Ah, yes... it's important to change your server's oil regularly.


From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ken Hohhof via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates

I had one customer puzzled by the concept that we did “maintenance” on 
mailservers.  You mean like changing the oil?  Do you do it every year at the 
same time?


From: Dennis Burgess via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates

Tuesdays are best :)

Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net<mailto:den...@linktechs.net> – 314-735-0270 – 
www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun via Af
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates

Rule 1: Don’t change anything major on Friday, unless you like working 
Saturday.  And Sunday.
Rule 2: Don’t change anything major on Monday.  It’s Monday.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] List updates

Guys,

We had a glitch switching over to “normal headers” with Amazon.  We are putting 
it back the way it was while we work through this with Amazon.

We will provide updates as we work through it.

Thank you for your patience

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com/>
pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>

Re: [AFMUG] List updates

[Shayne Lebrun via Af]

It's like that old curse, may you live in interesting times.

 

Updated for us:  May you have a fun upgrade.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 10:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates

 

Where's the fun in that Shayne?  

 

It's not like we are doing a major tower upgrade today and tomorrow also.
Oh, yeah, we are doing that too J

 

Paul

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun via Af
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 10:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List updates

 

Rule 1: Don't change anything major on Friday, unless you like working
Saturday.  And Sunday.

Rule 2: Don't change anything major on Monday.  It's Monday.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] List updates

 

Guys,

 

We had a glitch switching over to "normal headers" with Amazon.  We are
putting it back the way it was while we work through this with Amazon.

 

We will provide updates as we work through it.

 

Thank you for your patience

 

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com/> 

pa...@pdmnet.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Ken Hohhof]

I resubscribed to the afmug list with a dedicated email address.  If I forget 
and post from my main email address, that’s what happens, it silently 
disappears.  Of course, if I reply to a post, my email client automatically 
uses the correct From address.

So first thing I would check is whether the email address you are sending from 
is the one you are subscribed with on the list.


From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com ; Vlad Sedov 
Subject: [AFMUG] List issue

I will post this to the list.  Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.  

From: Vlad Sedov 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?

Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just 
disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue.

Vlad

On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?

  From: Vlad Sedov 
  Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
  To: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?

  hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me 
via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. 


  vlad

  On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Mine seems normal.

From: Vlad Sedov 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
To: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?

is it just me, or is the list being laggy?


Vlad

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Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Vlad Sedov]

Unsubbed and re-subbed.

Testing.

vlad


On 1/12/2015 5:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I resubscribed to the afmug list with a dedicated email address.  If I 
forget and post from my main email address, that�s what happens, it 
silently disappears.  Of course, if I reply to a post, my email client 
automatically uses the correct From address.
So first thing I would check is whether the email address you are 
sending from is the one you are subscribed with on the list.

*From:* Chuck McCown 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 5:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com  ; Vlad Sedov 


*Subject:* [AFMUG] List issue
I will post this to the list.  Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.
*From:* Vlad Sedov 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they 
just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my 
queue.


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
*From:* Vlad Sedov 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming 
back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation 
question.



vlad

On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Mine seems normal.
*From:* Vlad Sedov 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
*To:* ch...@wbmfg.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
is it just me, or is the list being laggy?


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Jaime Solorza]

I hear you loud and clear

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Vlad Sedov  wrote:

>  Unsubbed and re-subbed.
>
> Testing.
>
> vlad
>
>
> On 1/12/2015 5:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>  I resubscribed to the afmug list with a dedicated email address.� If I
> forget and post from my main email address, that�s what happens, it
> silently disappears.� Of course, if I reply to a post, my email client
> automatically uses the correct From address.
> �
> So first thing I would check is whether the email address you are sending
> from is the one you are subscribed with on the list.
> �
>  �
>  *From:* Chuck McCown 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 5:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com ; Vlad Sedov 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] List issue
>  �
>   I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.�
>  �
>  *From:* Vlad Sedov 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
> *To:* Chuck McCown 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
>  �
>  Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they
> just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue.
>
> Vlad
>
> On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>  Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
>  �
>  *From:* Vlad Sedov 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
> *To:* Chuck McCown 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
>  �
>  hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back
> to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question.
>
>
> vlad
>
> On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>  Mine seems normal.
>  �
>  *From:* Vlad Sedov 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
> *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
>  �
>  is it just me, or is the list being laggy?
>
>
> Vlad
>
> On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>
> http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat
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Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Vlad Sedov]

Yay :D


Vlad


On 1/12/2015 5:59 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

I hear you loud and clear

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Vlad Sedov > wrote:


Unsubbed and re-subbed.

Testing.

vlad


On 1/12/2015 5:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I resubscribed to the afmug list with a dedicated email
address.� If I forget and post from my main email address,
that�s what happens, it silently disappears.� Of course, if I
reply to a post, my email client automatically uses the correct
From address.
�
So first thing I would check is whether the email address you are
sending from is the one you are subscribed with on the list.
�
�
*From:* Chuck McCown 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 5:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com  ; Vlad Sedov

*Subject:* [AFMUG] List issue
�
I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a
fix.�
�
*From:* Vlad Sedov 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send,
they just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't
stay in my queue.

Vlad

On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
�
*From:* Vlad Sedov 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not
coming back to me via list. I was responding about your russian
translation question.


vlad

On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Mine seems normal.
�
*From:* Vlad Sedov 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
*To:* ch...@wbmfg.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
is it just me, or is the list being laggy?


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:


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Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Bill Prince]

The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 
list)... so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and 
proclaimed that our email server was not DMARC-compliant.


My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT 
they would not go out.


Sounds exactly like the problem you're having.

So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.  If that;s 
true, you need a DMARC-compliant email server.


bp


On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I will post this to the list.  Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.
*From:* Vlad Sedov 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they 
just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my 
queue.


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
*From:* Vlad Sedov 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming 
back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation 
question.



vlad

On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Mine seems normal.
*From:* Vlad Sedov 
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
*To:* ch...@wbmfg.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
is it just me, or is the list being laggy?


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

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Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Paul McCall]

Bill... His issue was much more simple.

He just had never replied to the Amazon verification...   the easiest way to 
get back "flowing" is the un-sub and re-sub Which he did

Of course, you're email headers were being mangled which is very different

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List issue

The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 list)... 
so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and proclaimed that 
our email server was not DMARC-compliant.

My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT they 
would not go out.

Sounds exactly like the problem you're having.

So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If that;s true, 
you need a DMARC-compliant email server.



bp




On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.�
�
From: Vlad Sedov<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
To: Chuck McCown<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just 
disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue.

Vlad

On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
�
From: Vlad Sedov<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
To: Chuck McCown<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me 
via list. I was responding about your russian translation question.


vlad

On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Mine seems normal.
�
From: Vlad Sedov<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
To: ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
is it just me, or is the list being laggy?


Vlad

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Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Josh Luthman]

Your...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 12, 2015 8:52 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:

>  Bill… His issue was much more simple.
>
>
>
> He just had never replied to the Amazon verification…   the easiest way to
> get back “flowing” is the un-sub and re-sub…. Which he did
>
>
>
> Of course, you’re email headers were being mangled which is very different
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 8:41 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List issue
>
>
>
> The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15
> list)... so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and
> proclaimed that our email server was not DMARC-compliant.
>
> My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT
> they would not go out.
>
> Sounds exactly like the problem you're having.
>
> So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If that;s
> true, you need a DMARC-compliant email server.
>
>
>  bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>   I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.�
>
> �
>
> *From:* Vlad Sedov 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
>
> *To:* Chuck McCown 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
>
> �
>
> Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just
> disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue.
>
> Vlad
>
> On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>   Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
>
> �
>
> *From:* Vlad Sedov 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
>
> *To:* Chuck McCown 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
>
> �
>
> hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to
> me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question.
>
>
> vlad
>
> On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>   Mine seems normal.
>
> �
>
> *From:* Vlad Sedov 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
>
> *To:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
>
> �
>
> is it just me, or is the list being laggy?
>
>
> Vlad
>
> On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>
> http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat
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[Ken Hohhof]

I don’t follow what you mean by DMARC-compliant.  I thought DMARC was a way for 
a domain owner to specify what to do if an email purporting to be from that 
domain fails DKIM or SPF checks.  Were you sending from your own domain, and if 
so, what DMARC policy is specified in your DNS records?  Or were you sending 
from a major email provider like Yahoo or AOL that had started publishing a 
DMARC policy of reject?  I think I saw that was causing a problem with some 
lists.

I send from my own domain through my own domain server, and have done nothing 
about DMARC, yet I have no problems.  If there is something you must do to make 
your mailserver “DMARC compliant”, I doubt I have done it.

If you were sending through your own mailserver from a Yahoo or AOL address, 
yes that would cause a problem.


From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 7:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List issue

The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 list)... 
so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and proclaimed that 
our email server was not DMARC-compliant.

My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT they 
would not go out.

Sounds exactly like the problem you're having.

So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If that;s true, 
you need a DMARC-compliant email server.


bp


On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.� 
  �
  From: Vlad Sedov 
  Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
  To: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
  �
  Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just 
disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue.

  Vlad

  On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
�
From: Vlad Sedov 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to 
me via list. I was responding about your russian translation question. 


vlad

On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Mine seems normal.
  �
  From: Vlad Sedov 
  Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
  To: ch...@wbmfg.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
  �
  is it just me, or is the list being laggy?


  Vlad

  On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:


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Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Bill Prince]

We don't host our own email servers; never have.

The company that provides our email mangles the from address to some 
generic email address, or alias within their email system. Like this:


   Jan 4 22:10:27 ip-x-x-x-x postfix/qmgr[2576]: DBC50A0A90:
   
*from=
   
<mailto:SRS0=fEDV.t=BX=skylinebroadbandservice.com=part...@yourhostingaccount.com>*,


We've asked several times for them to correct it, but they never have.  
It's never been an issue, until Amazon SES came along.


bp


On 1/12/2015 7:00 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I don�t follow what you mean by DMARC-compliant.  I thought DMARC was 
a way for a domain owner to specify what to do if an email purporting 
to be from that domain fails DKIM or SPF checks.  Were you sending 
from your own domain, and if so, what DMARC policy is specified in 
your DNS records?  Or were you sending from a major email provider 
like Yahoo or AOL that had started publishing a DMARC policy of 
reject?  I think I saw that was causing a problem with some lists.
I send from my own domain through my own domain server, and have done 
nothing about DMARC, yet I have no problems. If there is something you 
must do to make your mailserver �DMARC compliant�, I doubt I have done it.
If you were sending through your own mailserver from a Yahoo or AOL 
address, yes that would cause a problem.

*From:* Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 7:41 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] List issue
The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 
list)... so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and 
proclaimed that our email server was not DMARC-compliant.


My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT 
they would not go out.


Sounds exactly like the problem you're having.

So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If 
that;s true, you need a DMARC-compliant email server.


bp


On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.�
�
*From:* Vlad Sedov <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they 
just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my 
queue.


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
�
*From:* Vlad Sedov <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming 
back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation 
question.



vlad

On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Mine seems normal.
�
*From:* Vlad Sedov <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
*To:* ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
is it just me, or is the list being laggy?


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat





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Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Paul McCall]

Josh !

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 9:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List issue


Your...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 12, 2015 8:52 PM, "Paul McCall" 
mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
Bill… His issue was much more simple.

He just had never replied to the Amazon verification…   the easiest way to get 
back “flowing” is the un-sub and re-sub…. Which he did

Of course, you’re email headers were being mangled which is very different

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List issue

The email addy I was using before (since the AF list was the part-15 list)... 
so many years worked fine until Amazon SES got in the way and proclaimed that 
our email server was not DMARC-compliant.

My posts to the list would go IN (they show up in the AF archive), BUT they 
would not go out.

Sounds exactly like the problem you're having.

So check the AF archive and see if your emails are going in.� If that;s true, 
you need a DMARC-compliant email server.


bp




On 1/12/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I will post this to the list.� Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.�
�
From: Vlad Sedov<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
To: Chuck McCown<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they just 
disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my queue.

Vlad

On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
�
From: Vlad Sedov<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
To: Chuck McCown<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming back to me 
via list. I was responding about your russian translation question.


vlad

On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Mine seems normal.
�
From: Vlad Sedov<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
To: ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
�
is it just me, or is the list being laggy?


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] List test

[Josh Luthman]

Worked

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 16, 2015 7:59 PM, "Andreas Wiatowski" 
wrote:

>  Testing the list
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600
>
> Web: www.silowireless.com
>
> Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless
>
> Twitter: @silowireless
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List test

[Jaime Solorza]

Salud!

Jaime Solorza
On Jan 16, 2015 5:59 PM, "Andreas Wiatowski" 
wrote:

>  Testing the list
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
>
> Silo Wireless Inc.
>
> 1-866-727-4138 x-600
>
> Web: www.silowireless.com
>
> Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless
>
> Twitter: @silowireless
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List Delay

[Paul Stewart]

Yeah .. I just had a posting come through from last week – originally thought 
it was because I was in Carribean with horrible service but now realizing that 
it was queued up somewhere …

 

 

From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: 
Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 7:12 PM
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] List Delay

 

On one of my most recent postings there was a 40 hour delay between posting and 
listing.  

Re: [AFMUG] List Delay

[Steve Jones]

so it it the initial post only or responses too? 3-21 22:50

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> On one of my most recent postings there was a 40 hour delay between
> posting and listing.
>

Re: [AFMUG] List Delay

[Josh Reynolds]

Posting at 11:50 PM CST 20180321

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> On one of my most recent postings there was a 40 hour delay between posting
> and listing.

Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

[Rory Conaway]

Some of us are too busy working to join your coffee klatch :).

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 6:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] list dead?

Did the list dieded or is it just me?

Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

[Jaime Solorza]

Some weird stuff Maynard

Jaime Solorza

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 7:02 AM George Skorup 
wrote:

> Did the list dieded or is it just me?
>

Re: [AFMUG] List Delay

[Jaime Solorza]

You guys woke me ups

Jaime Solorza

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 6:48 AM Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Posting at 11:50 PM CST 20180321
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> > On one of my most recent postings there was a 40 hour delay between
> posting
> > and listing.
>

Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

[Mike Hammett]

Probably waiting for Paul to fix it. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "George Skorup"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 8:02:28 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] list dead? 

Did the list dieded or is it just me? 

Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

[Matt Hoppes]

It died. 

> On Mar 24, 2018, at 09:02, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> Did the list dieded or is it just me?

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Mike Hammett]

There are a few Slack channels out there already as well as Facebook groups. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Craig House"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:12:22 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] List alternative? 

Anyone thought about using something like slack as an alternative to the email 
list. Maybe there is a good reason for the email format but it seems like it 
would allow for categories for topics so members could choose if they want to 
be in on the topic or not. Such as fiber topics. Cambium topics. Mimosa ubnt 
and sync. Lots of options to make it more topic specific to what each list 
member is interested in. I know my attention span sometimes gets lost on things 
that don’t involve my work. Maybe slack isn’t the beat choice but there is 
surely something like that to fit the group needs 
Just a thought 

Craig 

Sent from my iPhone 

Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

[Bill Prince]

Let's see how long this takes. I have a few posts from the last few days 
that are hung up somewhere in cyber space.


2018-03-24 @ 14:25 PDT.


bp


On 3/24/2018 1:11 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Holy crap. I sent that like four days ago.

$ping af@afmug.com
reply 345,600,000ms

George Skorup
Network Operations
Cyber Broadcasting, LLC
Internet services division of
Midwest Communications, Inc
680 S Broadway, Coal City, IL 60416
O (815)634-8708 x105

On 3/24/2018 9:48 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
It's having issues. Paul was looking at it. Speculation about DDOS or 
something.


Sent 2018-03-24 at 08:48 PDT.

(also sent to the list)

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Justin Wilson]

Here is the problem that comes around every so often.


1.Slack is the wild Wild West.  Get more than a few folks in a channel and the 
conversation gets crazy.  It’s a conversation not a thread. Imagine some of the 
threads that have gone off the rails in realtime. 
2.Message boards are good but the are not pushed to you like e-mail
3.Facebook is pushed to you, but not everyone has facebook or pays attention to 
it.

As much as people keep wanting e-mail to die, which I don’t understand, it’s 
not going away anytime soon.

Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

www.mtin.net
www.midwest-ix.com

> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Craig House  wrote:
> 
> Anyone thought about using something like slack as an alternative to the 
> email list.  Maybe there is a good reason for the email format but it seems 
> like it would allow for categories for topics so members could choose if they 
> want to be in on the topic or not.  Such as fiber topics. Cambium topics.  
> Mimosa ubnt and sync.  Lots of options to make it more topic specific to what 
> each list member is interested in.  I know my attention span sometimes gets 
> lost on things that don’t involve my work.  Maybe slack isn’t the beat choice 
> but there is surely something like that to fit the group needs 
> Just a thought 
> 
> Craig 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

[Jason McKemie]

It's been very spotty the past week or so. Paul thought it might be under
attack from overseas and was working on it last I heard.

On Saturday, March 24, 2018, George Skorup  wrote:

> Did the list dieded or is it just me?
>

Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

[Colin Stanners]

Works for me. Sent this message 9:00 CST, will see how long it takes to get
to the list.

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 8:02 AM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Did the list dieded or is it just me?
>

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/25/18 5:12 AM, Craig House wrote:

Anyone thought about using something like slack as an alternative to the email 
list.  Maybe there is a good reason for the email format but it seems like it 
would allow for categories for topics so members could choose if they want to 
be in on the topic or not.  Such as fiber topics. Cambium topics.  Mimosa ubnt 
and sync.  Lots of options to make it more topic specific to what each list 
member is interested in.  I know my attention span sometimes gets lost on 
things that don’t involve my work.  Maybe slack isn’t the beat choice but there 
is surely something like that to fit the group needs



No from me... I like the general all topics nature of this list. Don't 
need some on/off topic category mess, that would kill the fun.

Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

[Bill Prince]

It's having issues. Paul was looking at it. Speculation about DDOS or 
something.


Sent 2018-03-24 at 08:48 PDT.

bp


On 3/24/2018 6:02 AM, George Skorup wrote:

Did the list dieded or is it just me?

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Steve Jones]

I hate slack

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:06 PM Justin Wilson  wrote:

> Here is the problem that comes around every so often.
>
>
> 1.Slack is the wild Wild West.  Get more than a few folks in a channel and
> the conversation gets crazy.  It’s a conversation not a thread. Imagine
> some of the threads that have gone off the rails in realtime.
> 2.Message boards are good but the are not pushed to you like e-mail
> 3.Facebook is pushed to you, but not everyone has facebook or pays
> attention to it.
>
> As much as people keep wanting e-mail to die, which I don’t understand,
> it’s not going away anytime soon.
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> www.mtin.net
> www.midwest-ix.com
>
> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Craig House  wrote:
>
> Anyone thought about using something like slack as an alternative to the
> email list.  Maybe there is a good reason for the email format but it seems
> like it would allow for categories for topics so members could choose if
> they want to be in on the topic or not.  Such as fiber topics. Cambium
> topics.  Mimosa ubnt and sync.  Lots of options to make it more topic
> specific to what each list member is interested in.  I know my attention
> span sometimes gets lost on things that don’t involve my work.  Maybe slack
> isn’t the beat choice but there is surely something like that to fit the
> group needs
> Just a thought
>
> Craig
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Adair Winter]

You hate everything.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:50 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> I hate slack
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:06 PM Justin Wilson  wrote:
>
>> Here is the problem that comes around every so often.
>>
>>
>> 1.Slack is the wild Wild West.  Get more than a few folks in a channel
>> and the conversation gets crazy.  It’s a conversation not a thread. Imagine
>> some of the threads that have gone off the rails in realtime.
>> 2.Message boards are good but the are not pushed to you like e-mail
>> 3.Facebook is pushed to you, but not everyone has facebook or pays
>> attention to it.
>>
>> As much as people keep wanting e-mail to die, which I don’t understand,
>> it’s not going away anytime soon.
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>> j...@mtin.net
>>
>> www.mtin.net
>> www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Craig House 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone thought about using something like slack as an alternative to the
>> email list.  Maybe there is a good reason for the email format but it seems
>> like it would allow for categories for topics so members could choose if
>> they want to be in on the topic or not.  Such as fiber topics. Cambium
>> topics.  Mimosa ubnt and sync.  Lots of options to make it more topic
>> specific to what each list member is interested in.  I know my attention
>> span sometimes gets lost on things that don’t involve my work.  Maybe slack
>> isn’t the beat choice but there is surely something like that to fit the
>> group needs
>> Just a thought
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Mathew Howard]

you say that like there's something wrong with hating everything...

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Adair Winter 
wrote:

> You hate everything.
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:50 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> I hate slack
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:06 PM Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>
>>> Here is the problem that comes around every so often.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.Slack is the wild Wild West.  Get more than a few folks in a channel
>>> and the conversation gets crazy.  It’s a conversation not a thread. Imagine
>>> some of the threads that have gone off the rails in realtime.
>>> 2.Message boards are good but the are not pushed to you like e-mail
>>> 3.Facebook is pushed to you, but not everyone has facebook or pays
>>> attention to it.
>>>
>>> As much as people keep wanting e-mail to die, which I don’t understand,
>>> it’s not going away anytime soon.
>>>
>>> Justin Wilson
>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>
>>> www.mtin.net
>>> www.midwest-ix.com
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Craig House 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone thought about using something like slack as an alternative to the
>>> email list.  Maybe there is a good reason for the email format but it seems
>>> like it would allow for categories for topics so members could choose if
>>> they want to be in on the topic or not.  Such as fiber topics. Cambium
>>> topics.  Mimosa ubnt and sync.  Lots of options to make it more topic
>>> specific to what each list member is interested in.  I know my attention
>>> span sometimes gets lost on things that don’t involve my work.  Maybe slack
>>> isn’t the beat choice but there is surely something like that to fit the
>>> group needs
>>> Just a thought
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Bill Prince]

But Slack is easy to hate.


bp


On 3/25/2018 3:08 PM, Adair Winter wrote:

You hate everything.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:50 PM Steve Jones > wrote:


I hate slack

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:06 PM Justin Wilson mailto:li...@mtin.net>> wrote:

Here is the problem that comes around every so often.


1.Slack is the wild Wild West.  Get more than a few folks in a
channel and the conversation gets crazy. It’s a conversation
not a thread. Imagine some of the threads that have gone off
the rails in realtime.
2.Message boards are good but the are not pushed to you like
e-mail
3.Facebook is pushed to you, but not everyone has facebook or
pays attention to it.

As much as people keep wanting e-mail to die, which I don’t
understand, it’s not going away anytime soon.

Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net 

www.mtin.net 
www.midwest-ix.com 


On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Craig House
mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net>>
wrote:

Anyone thought about using something like slack as an
alternative to the email list. Maybe there is a good reason
for the email format but it seems like it would allow for
categories for topics so members could choose if they want to
be in on the topic or not. Such as fiber topics. Cambium
topics.  Mimosa ubnt and sync.  Lots of options to make it
more topic specific to what each list member is interested
in.  I know my attention span sometimes gets lost on things
that don’t involve my work.  Maybe slack isn’t the beat
choice but there is surely something like that to fit the
group needs
Just a thought

Craig

Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] List Delay

[Jon Lee]

I'm not sure what script the mailing list runs on, but if it uses port 25
it gets throttled by EC2. (Use port 587 or 2587 instead)

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/smtp-connect.html

-Jon
Off-Grid Networks

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 1:40 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> You guys woke me ups
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 6:48 AM Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
>> Posting at 11:50 PM CST 20180321
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> > On one of my most recent postings there was a 40 hour delay between
>> posting
>> > and listing.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Steve Jones]

I like beer

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 5:08 PM Adair Winter 
wrote:

> You hate everything.
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:50 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> I hate slack
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:06 PM Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>
>>> Here is the problem that comes around every so often.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.Slack is the wild Wild West.  Get more than a few folks in a channel
>>> and the conversation gets crazy.  It’s a conversation not a thread. Imagine
>>> some of the threads that have gone off the rails in realtime.
>>> 2.Message boards are good but the are not pushed to you like e-mail
>>> 3.Facebook is pushed to you, but not everyone has facebook or pays
>>> attention to it.
>>>
>>> As much as people keep wanting e-mail to die, which I don’t understand,
>>> it’s not going away anytime soon.
>>>
>>> Justin Wilson
>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>
>>> www.mtin.net
>>> www.midwest-ix.com
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Craig House 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone thought about using something like slack as an alternative to the
>>> email list.  Maybe there is a good reason for the email format but it seems
>>> like it would allow for categories for topics so members could choose if
>>> they want to be in on the topic or not.  Such as fiber topics. Cambium
>>> topics.  Mimosa ubnt and sync.  Lots of options to make it more topic
>>> specific to what each list member is interested in.  I know my attention
>>> span sometimes gets lost on things that don’t involve my work.  Maybe slack
>>> isn’t the beat choice but there is surely something like that to fit the
>>> group needs
>>> Just a thought
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] List alternative?

[Jaime Solorza]

Me too.  I like 🍺

Jaime Solorza

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 5:45 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> I like beer
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 5:08 PM Adair Winter 
> wrote:
>
>> You hate everything.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:50 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I hate slack
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 4:06 PM Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>>
 Here is the problem that comes around every so often.


 1.Slack is the wild Wild West.  Get more than a few folks in a channel
 and the conversation gets crazy.  It’s a conversation not a thread. Imagine
 some of the threads that have gone off the rails in realtime.
 2.Message boards are good but the are not pushed to you like e-mail
 3.Facebook is pushed to you, but not everyone has facebook or pays
 attention to it.

 As much as people keep wanting e-mail to die, which I don’t understand,
 it’s not going away anytime soon.

 Justin Wilson
 j...@mtin.net

 www.mtin.net
 www.midwest-ix.com

 On Mar 25, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Craig House 
 wrote:

 Anyone thought about using something like slack as an alternative to
 the email list.  Maybe there is a good reason for the email format but it
 seems like it would allow for categories for topics so members could choose
 if they want to be in on the topic or not.  Such as fiber topics. Cambium
 topics.  Mimosa ubnt and sync.  Lots of options to make it more topic
 specific to what each list member is interested in.  I know my attention
 span sometimes gets lost on things that don’t involve my work.  Maybe slack
 isn’t the beat choice but there is surely something like that to fit the
 group needs
 Just a thought

 Craig

 Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[cstanners--- via Af]

Thank you Paul, PDMNet and tech for your work and dedication.

--Original Message--
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sender: Af
To: af@afmug.com
ReplyTo: Paul McCall
ReplyTo: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Sent: Sep 16, 2014 7:43 AM

Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM problem.  
There a couple tweaks that will be done today.  My tech on the project is now 
sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[CBB - Jay Fuller via Af]

You should try sleepingI hear its good for you :) 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Date: Tue, Sep 16, 2014 7:43 AM


Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM problem.  
There a couple tweaks that will be done today.  My tech on the project is now 
sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Rory Conaway via Af]

Looking good.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf
Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
problem.  There a couple tweaks that will be done today.  My tech on the
project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Mike Hammett via Af]

Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just have AF and 
not the original sender as well? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 

Guys, 

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM problem. 
There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the project is now 
sleeping as we worked during the night. 

PLEASE BE PATIENT. 

Paul McCall, Pres. 
PDMNet / Florida Broadband 
658 Old Dixie Highway 
Vero Beach, FL 32962 
772-564-6800 office 
772-473-0352 cell 
www.pdmnet.com 
pa...@pdmnet.net 

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Adam Moffett via Af]

I second the motion.

Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just have AF and 
not the original sender as well?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM problem. 
There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the project is now 
sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Colin Stanners via Af]

I assume the issue then is how do yo indicate the original sender's e-mail
address?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:

> Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just have AF
> and not the original sender as well?
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>
> Guys,
>
> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
>
> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 772-564-6800 office
> 772-473-0352 cell
> www.pdmnet.com
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Mike Hammett via Af]

I'm not sure of how to do it, but that's how every other list works. *shrugs* 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Colin Stanners"  
To: "Mike Hammett" , "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:36:32 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 


I assume the issue then is how do yo indicate the original sender's e-mail 
address? 



On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: 


Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just have AF and 
not the original sender as well? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message - 

From: "Paul McCall via Af" < af@afmug.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM 


Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 

Guys, 

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM problem. 
There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the project is now 
sleeping as we worked during the night. 

PLEASE BE PATIENT. 

Paul McCall, Pres. 
PDMNet / Florida Broadband 
658 Old Dixie Highway 
Vero Beach, FL 32962 
772-564-6800 office 
772-473-0352 cell 
www.pdmnet.com < http://www.pdmnet.com/ > 
pa...@pdmnet.net  

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Adam Moffett via Af]

Same way it's always been done.
From = original sender
Reply-to = list

That way when I click reply, you won't get the message twice...just like 
you're about to get this one twice.



I assume the issue then is how do yo indicate the original sender's e-mail
address?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:


Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just have AF
and not the original sender as well?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

Guys, 

We are fully aware of the extra TO:  it will NOT stay that way as soon as 
the tech wakes up... he'll be in by 1pm

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam 
Moffett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:51 AM
To: Colin Stanners; Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments


Same way it's always been done.
 From = original sender
Reply-to = list

That way when I click reply, you won't get the message twice...just like you're 
about to get this one twice.

> I assume the issue then is how do yo indicate the original sender's 
> e-mail address?
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:
>
>> Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just 
>> have AF and not the original sender as well?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM 
>> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on 
>> the project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
>>
>> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
>>
>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>> 772-564-6800 office
>> 772-473-0352 cell
>> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com/>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Colin Stanners via Af]

>From what I understood, the issue was that Amazon didn't let you fake
(change from af@afmug.com) the from: value, likely a spam prevention
measure. But as Paul said, they will be more improvements when the tech
comes in and I'm sure this can be fixed.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Adam Moffett 
wrote:

>
> Same way it's always been done.
> From = original sender
> Reply-to = list
>
> That way when I click reply, you won't get the message twice...just like
> you're about to get this one twice.
>
>
>  I assume the issue then is how do yo indicate the original sender's e-mail
>> address?
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just have AF
>>> and not the original sender as well?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
>>> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
>>> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
>>>
>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Ken Hohhof via Af]

Now the From is

"Colin Stanners via Af" 

which I think is actually worse, since that's your name but not your email 
address, it's bound to cause problems.  Plus now we have the double replies, 
to get your actual email address to show up somewhere.


I think Mike is right, we need the standard list behavior, where From: has 
the sender's email, and both To: and Reply To: is the list address.  If that 
is something Amazon prohibits, it's an annoyance for sure and maybe a deal 
killer.



-Original Message- 
From: Colin Stanners via Af

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:09 AM
Cc: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments


From what I understood, the issue was that Amazon didn't let you fake

(change from af@afmug.com) the from: value, likely a spam prevention
measure. But as Paul said, they will be more improvements when the tech
comes in and I'm sure this can be fixed.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Adam Moffett 
wrote:



Same way it's always been done.
From = original sender
Reply-to = list

That way when I click reply, you won't get the message twice...just like
you're about to get this one twice.


 I assume the issue then is how do yo indicate the original sender's 
e-mail

address?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af 
wrote:

 Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just have 
AF

and not the original sender as well?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com/>
pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Bill Prince via Af]

Thunderchicken has a "Reply List", which I always use.  Avoids the 
double reply.


bp

On 9/16/2014 7:38 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:

Now the From is

"Colin Stanners via Af" 

which I think is actually worse, since that's your name but not your 
email address, it's bound to cause problems.  Plus now we have the 
double replies, to get your actual email address to show up somewhere.


I think Mike is right, we need the standard list behavior, where From: 
has the sender's email, and both To: and Reply To: is the list 
address.  If that is something Amazon prohibits, it's an annoyance for 
sure and maybe a deal killer.



-Original Message- From: Colin Stanners via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:09 AM
Cc: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments


From what I understood, the issue was that Amazon didn't let you fake

(change from af@afmug.com) the from: value, likely a spam prevention
measure. But as Paul said, they will be more improvements when the tech
comes in and I'm sure this can be fixed.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Adam Moffett 
wrote:



Same way it's always been done.
From = original sender
Reply-to = list

That way when I click reply, you won't get the message twice...just like
you're about to get this one twice.


 I assume the issue then is how do yo indicate the original sender's 
e-mail

address?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af 
wrote:

 Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just 
have AF

and not the original sender as well?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com/>
pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

LOL. Does anybody actually READ my posts about the status ?

Relax...  what's on TV?  How's your network doing?  Take a selfie, watch some 
funny Cat videos :)

Many tweaks will be made today :)

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof 
via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:38 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Now the From is

"Colin Stanners via Af" 

which I think is actually worse, since that's your name but not your email 
address, it's bound to cause problems.  Plus now we have the double replies, to 
get your actual email address to show up somewhere.

I think Mike is right, we need the standard list behavior, where From: has the 
sender's email, and both To: and Reply To: is the list address.  If that is 
something Amazon prohibits, it's an annoyance for sure and maybe a deal killer.


-Original Message-
From: Colin Stanners via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:09 AM
Cc: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

>From what I understood, the issue was that Amazon didn't let you fake
(change from af@afmug.com) the from: value, likely a spam prevention measure. 
But as Paul said, they will be more improvements when the tech comes in and I'm 
sure this can be fixed.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Adam Moffett 
wrote:

>
> Same way it's always been done.
> From = original sender
> Reply-to = list
>
> That way when I click reply, you won't get the message twice...just 
> like you're about to get this one twice.
>
>
>  I assume the issue then is how do yo indicate the original sender's 
> e-mail
>> address?
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just 
>> have AF
>>> and not the original sender as well?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>
>>> From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM 
>>> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on 
>>> the project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
>>>
>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com/>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[CBB - Jay Fuller via Af]

I read them Paul :)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul McCall via Af 
  To: Ken Hohhof ; Animal Farm 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments


  LOL. Does anybody actually READ my posts about the status ?

  Relax...  what's on TV?  How's your network doing?  Take a selfie, watch some 
funny Cat videos :)

  Many tweaks will be made today :)

  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
Hohhof via Af
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:38 AM
  To: Animal Farm
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  Now the From is

  "Colin Stanners via Af" 

  which I think is actually worse, since that's your name but not your email 
address, it's bound to cause problems.  Plus now we have the double replies, to 
get your actual email address to show up somewhere.

  I think Mike is right, we need the standard list behavior, where From: has 
the sender's email, and both To: and Reply To: is the list address.  If that is 
something Amazon prohibits, it's an annoyance for sure and maybe a deal killer.


  -Original Message-
  From: Colin Stanners via Af
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:09 AM
  Cc: Animal Farm
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  >From what I understood, the issue was that Amazon didn't let you fake
  (change from af@afmug.com) the from: value, likely a spam prevention measure. 
But as Paul said, they will be more improvements when the tech comes in and I'm 
sure this can be fixed.

  On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Adam Moffett 
  wrote:

  >
  > Same way it's always been done.
  > From = original sender
  > Reply-to = list
  >
  > That way when I click reply, you won't get the message twice...just 
  > like you're about to get this one twice.
  >
  >
  >  I assume the issue then is how do yo indicate the original sender's 
  > e-mail
  >> address?
  >>
  >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett via Af 
  >> wrote:
  >>
  >>  Not complaining, just a note. Can the reply-to be changed to just 
  >> have AF
  >>> and not the original sender as well?
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> -
  >>> Mike Hammett
  >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
  >>> http://www.ics-il.com
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> - Original Message -
  >>>
  >>> From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
  >>> To: af@afmug.com
  >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:43:02 AM
  >>> Subject: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
  >>>
  >>> Guys,
  >>>
  >>> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM 
  >>> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on 
  >>> the project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
  >>>
  >>> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
  >>>
  >>> Paul McCall, Pres.
  >>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
  >>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
  >>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
  >>> 772-564-6800 office
  >>> 772-473-0352 cell
  >>> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com/>
  >>> pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  > 

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Jaime Solorza via Af]

Thanks

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af"  wrote:

> Guys,
>
> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
> problem.  There a couple tweaks that will be done today.  My tech on the
> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
>
> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 772-564-6800 office
> 772-473-0352 cell
> www.pdmnet.com
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Curtis Brotherton via Af]

I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to the 
original poster AND the list.

It now only reply's to the list.
--

Curtis Brotherton
PDMNet
(772) 564-6800





-Original Message-
From: Jaime Solorza via Af 
mailto:jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com%3e>>
Reply-to: 
To: Animal Farm mailto:animal%20farm%20%3...@afmug.com%3e>>, Paul 
McCall mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net%3e>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +



Thanks

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

> Guys,
>
> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
> problem.  There a couple tweaks that will be done today.  My tech on the
> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
>
> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 772-564-6800 office
> 772-473-0352 cell
> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
> pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net><mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Mike Hammett via Af]

*slow clap* 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 

I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to the 
original poster AND the list. 

It now only reply's to the list. 
-- 
 
Curtis Brotherton 
PDMNet 
(772) 564-6800 





-Original Message- 
From: Jaime Solorza via Af 
mailto:jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com%3e>> 
Reply-to:  
To: Animal Farm mailto:animal%20farm%20%3...@afmug.com%3e>>, Paul 
McCall mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net%3e>> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 + 



Thanks 

Jaime Solorza 
On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: 

> Guys, 
> 
> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM 
> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the 
> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night. 
> 
> PLEASE BE PATIENT. 
> 
> Paul McCall, Pres. 
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband 
> 658 Old Dixie Highway 
> Vero Beach, FL 32962 
> 772-564-6800 office 
> 772-473-0352 cell 
> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/> 
> pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net><mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Ryan Ray via Af]

Looks way better now. Thanks Paul


On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:

> *slow clap*
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>
> I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
> the original poster AND the list.
>
> It now only reply's to the list.
> --
> 
> Curtis Brotherton
> PDMNet
> (772) 564-6800
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jaime Solorza via Af  jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
> Reply-to: >
> To: Animal Farm  animal%20farm%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>, Paul McCall <
> pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
> %3e>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" 
> <mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
> > problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
> > project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
> >
> > PLEASE BE PATIENT.
> >
> > Paul McCall, Pres.
> > PDMNet / Florida Broadband
> > 658 Old Dixie Highway
> > Vero Beach, FL 32962
> > 772-564-6800 office
> > 772-473-0352 cell
> > www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
> > pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 
> ><mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Matt Jenkins via Af]

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing 
who its from.



On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:

Looks way better now. Thanks Paul


On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:


*slow clap*




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
the original poster AND the list.

It now only reply's to the list.
--

Curtis Brotherton
PDMNet
(772) 564-6800





-Original Message-
From: Jaime Solorza via Af %3e>>
Reply-to: >
To: Animal Farm %3e>>, Paul McCall <
pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
%3e>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +



Thanks

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" 
<mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote:


Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 
<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net >

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is coming 
from each time.

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into the 
body of the message I believe.  That is how we had it yesterday, but the 
upgrade "undid" that.

Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who its 
from.


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:
> Looks way better now. Thanks Paul
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:
>
>> *slow clap*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>>
>> I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
>> the original poster AND the list.
>>
>> It now only reply's to the list.
>> --
>> 
>> Curtis Brotherton
>> PDMNet
>> (772) 564-6800
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Jaime Solorza via Af > jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
>> Reply-to: >
>> To: Animal Farm > animal%20farm%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>, Paul McCall <
>> pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
>> %3e>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" 
>> <mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
>>> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
>>> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
>>>
>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 
>>> <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Mike Hammett via Af]

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the e-mail. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 

Matt, 

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is coming 
from each time. 

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into the 
body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the upgrade 
"undid" that. 

Thanks! 

Paul 

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who its 
from. 


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote: 
> Looks way better now. Thanks Paul 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote: 
> 
>> *slow clap* 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> 
>> From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" > 
>> To: af@afmug.com  
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 
>> 
>> I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to 
>> the original poster AND the list. 
>> 
>> It now only reply's to the list. 
>> -- 
>>  
>> Curtis Brotherton 
>> PDMNet 
>> (772) 564-6800 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message----- 
>> From: Jaime Solorza via Af > jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>> 
>> Reply-to: > 
>> To: Animal Farm > animal%20farm%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>, Paul McCall < 
>> pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net 
>> %3e>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 
>> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 + 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Jaime Solorza 
>> On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af"  
>> <mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Guys, 
>>> 
>>> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM 
>>> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the 
>>> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night. 
>>> 
>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT. 
>>> 
>>> Paul McCall, Pres. 
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband 
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway 
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962 
>>> 772-564-6800 office 
>>> 772-473-0352 cell 
>>> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/> 
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net  
>>> <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net > 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.  

However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on 
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .  

For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ...   
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the e-mail. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 

Matt, 

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is coming 
from each time. 

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into the 
body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the upgrade 
"undid" that. 

Thanks! 

Paul 

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who its 
from. 


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote: 
> Looks way better now. Thanks Paul 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote: 
> 
>> *slow clap* 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett 
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> http://www.ics-il.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> 
>> From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" > 
>> To: af@afmug.com  
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 
>> 
>> I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to 
>> the original poster AND the list. 
>> 
>> It now only reply's to the list. 
>> -- 
>>  
>> Curtis Brotherton 
>> PDMNet 
>> (772) 564-6800 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message----- 
>> From: Jaime Solorza via Af > jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>> 
>> Reply-to: > 
>> To: Animal Farm > animal%20farm%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>, Paul McCall < 
>> pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net 
>> %3e>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 
>> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 + 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Jaime Solorza 
>> On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af"  
>> <mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Guys, 
>>> 
>>> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM 
>>> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the 
>>> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night. 
>>> 
>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT. 
>>> 
>>> Paul McCall, Pres. 
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband 
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway 
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962 
>>> 772-564-6800 office 
>>> 772-473-0352 cell 
>>> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/> 
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net  
>>> <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net > 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

Seth, 

I don’t disagree with what you are showing in your attachment.   However, the 
user by itself  doesn’t show as the From under Outlook or Gmail, which shows 
af@afmug.com  (on behalf of Josh Reynolds  ).  It simply 
shows the person's name as the sender (as it does now)

It is not immediately possible (or needed IMO) to show that "on behalf part" in 
the same way.   When you click Reply, it replies to AF@AFMUG.COM like it did 
before.

I think we are talking about subtle "shades" as far as that topic goes.  We 
haven’t looked at Thunderbird yet, and that may change our opinion..

One step at a time :)

Thanks for your continued input Seth!

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

On 9/16/14, 8:14 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote:
> The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.


Sure it was. The "From" header is very clearly the sender's email address. See 
attached screenshot of a random header sample.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

I wasn’t looking at the header info, I was only looking at what we normally see 
when using Outlook, or Gmail, or Hotmail or AOL.  Again, we will continue to 
look at the entire scope and aren’t trying to force anything down anybody's 
throat.

At this point though, to characterize the list as "broken" is a bit harsh, IMO

Respectfully, 

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

On 9/16/14, 8:14 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote:
> However, the old list said did say something like this.@afmug.com; on 
> behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

Pulled a header sample for Bill; I don't agree, it looked like this (see 
attachment, no "on behalf of"). My educated opinion is that the new list is 
still broken.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Seth Mattinen via Af]

On 9/16/14, 8:49 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote:

At this point though, to characterize the list as "broken" is a bit harsh, IMO



I don't think I'm being harsh. The headers on this new list are jumbled 
up in a way that's contrary to generally accepted mailing list behavior. 
As a technical person it's plain broken; how clients interpret the 
combination of headers with List-* headers to pretty-print things for 
the end user is not an indication of "working".


The yardstick for "fixed" vs. "broken" should not be how things appear 
on the surface, but found in the headers. The References aren't working 
to thread. The "From" header is wrong. The envelope sender isn't the 
list manager. But if everyone accepts it then whatever, I won't waste my 
energy.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af]

I would argue "broken, but tolerable based on the use of SES in the middle".

The From: address should be the sender.
The Reply-To: address should be the list.

The way the headers are now you cannot see the email address of the sender
at all.  This is wrong, but I'm not sure what they can do about it with the
way it is currently architected.

SES being in the middle here is the problem.  SES requires a lot of
specific items to ensure that it isn't used to send anonymous spam.  The
most aggressive one being the requirement that each and every from address
is verified on their amazon account.  And worse, it expects the
capitalization of those from addresses never to change, and so on.   SES in
the middle isn't the right architecture choice, but apparently it was
necessary for some reason.

I'm expecting the realization that SES is actually charging per-message and
for data transfer to lead to SES being pulled out of the equation one way
or another.   I have dug some and I sure don't see any way around the SES
pricing...

-forrest

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af  wrote:

> On 9/16/14, 8:49 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote:
>
>> At this point though, to characterize the list as "broken" is a bit
>> harsh, IMO
>>
>
>
> I don't think I'm being harsh. The headers on this new list are jumbled up
> in a way that's contrary to generally accepted mailing list behavior. As a
> technical person it's plain broken; how clients interpret the combination
> of headers with List-* headers to pretty-print things for the end user is
> not an indication of "working".
>
> The yardstick for "fixed" vs. "broken" should not be how things appear on
> the surface, but found in the headers. The References aren't working to
> thread. The "From" header is wrong. The envelope sender isn't the list
> manager. But if everyone accepts it then whatever, I won't waste my energy.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

Thanks for the input.   The dust has not settled on it yet and we fully 
expected to deal with some of this when it went live :) 

There is a lot of thoughts, technical discussion, etc. that I could spent a lot 
of time on, but I want to be clear that we would rather focus time (at the 
moment anyways) looking at the different options on improving it.  Since we 
have had to "my mail  server is having trouble with your mail server" general 
connection issues, its not a huge deal for us to look at continued options.

Steady plodding (as the bible says), which in the tech business translates to 
persistence and patience (not necessarily in that order)

:)

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account) via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:04 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I would argue "broken, but tolerable based on the use of SES in the middle".

The From: address should be the sender.
The Reply-To: address should be the list.

The way the headers are now you cannot see the email address of the sender at 
all.  This is wrong, but I'm not sure what they can do about it with the way it 
is currently architected.

SES being in the middle here is the problem.  SES requires a lot of specific 
items to ensure that it isn't used to send anonymous spam.  The most aggressive 
one being the requirement that each and every from address is verified on their 
amazon account.  And worse, it expects the
capitalization of those from addresses never to change, and so on.   SES in
the middle isn't the right architecture choice, but apparently it was necessary 
for some reason.

I'm expecting the realization that SES is actually charging per-message and for 
data transfer to lead to SES being pulled out of the equation one way
or another.   I have dug some and I sure don't see any way around the SES
pricing...

-forrest

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Seth Mattinen via Af  wrote:

> On 9/16/14, 8:49 PM, Paul McCall via Af wrote:
>
>> At this point though, to characterize the list as "broken" is a bit 
>> harsh, IMO
>>
>
>
> I don't think I'm being harsh. The headers on this new list are 
> jumbled up in a way that's contrary to generally accepted mailing list 
> behavior. As a technical person it's plain broken; how clients 
> interpret the combination of headers with List-* headers to 
> pretty-print things for the end user is not an indication of "working".
>
> The yardstick for "fixed" vs. "broken" should not be how things appear 
> on the surface, but found in the headers. The References aren't 
> working to thread. The "From" header is wrong. The envelope sender 
> isn't the list manager. But if everyone accepts it then whatever, I won't 
> waste my energy.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Ken Hohhof via Af]

I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and here is 
the From: header:


From: Bill Prince 



-Original Message- 
From: Paul McCall via Af

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on 
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.


Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .

For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ... 
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]





-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the 
e-mail.





- 
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is 
coming from each time.


However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into 
the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the 
upgrade "undid" that.


Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who 
its from.



On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:

Looks way better now. Thanks Paul


On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:


*slow clap*




- 
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message - 


From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
the original poster AND the list.

It now only reply's to the list.
--

Curtis Brotherton
PDMNet
(772) 564-6800





-Original Message- 
From: Jaime Solorza via Af 
jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
Reply-to: >
To: Animal Farm %3e>>, Paul McCall <
pa...@pdmnet.net 
<mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net

%3e>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +



Thanks

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" 

<mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote:


Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 
<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net >

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

Yes, I agree that was in the header.  I was referring to function (displayed 
FROM field and the replied TO field).  Sorry if I wasn’t clear.  That was part 
of a longer conversation that explained the context

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and here is the 
From: header:

From: Bill Prince 



-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on 
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .

For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ... 
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the e-mail.




- 
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is 
coming from each time.

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into 
the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the 
upgrade "undid" that.

Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who 
its from.


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:
> Looks way better now. Thanks Paul
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:
>
>> *slow clap*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>>
>> From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>>
>> I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
>> the original poster AND the list.
>>
>> It now only reply's to the list.
>> -- 
>> 
>> Curtis Brotherton
>> PDMNet
>> (772) 564-6800
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message----- 
>> From: Jaime Solorza via Af > jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
>> Reply-to: >
>> To: Animal Farm > animal%20farm%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>, Paul McCall <
>> pa...@pdmnet.net 
>> <mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
>> %3e>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" > 
>> <mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
>>> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
>>> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
>>>
>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 
>>> <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Ken Hohhof via Af]

Not sure what you mean by "displayed FROM field".

My email client (WLM) displays what's in the header, I would assume that's 
typical.  What else would it display?


I was responding to your statement that the From address wasn't the sender 
on the old list either.  It was.



-Original Message- 
From: Paul McCall via Af

Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Yes, I agree that was in the header.  I was referring to function (displayed 
FROM field and the replied TO field).  Sorry if I wasn’t clear.  That was 
part of a longer conversation that explained the context


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and here is 
the From: header:


From: Bill Prince 



-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .

For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ...
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the 
e-mail.





- 
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is
coming from each time.

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into
the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the
upgrade "undid" that.

Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who
its from.


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:

Looks way better now. Thanks Paul


On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:


*slow clap*




- 
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message - 


From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
the original poster AND the list.

It now only reply's to the list.
--

Curtis Brotherton
PDMNet
(772) 564-6800





-Original Message- 
From: Jaime Solorza via Af 
jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
Reply-to: >
To: Animal Farm %3e>>, Paul McCall <
pa...@pdmnet.net
<mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
%3e>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +



Thanks

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" 
<mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote:


Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 
<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net >

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

What is WLM ?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Not sure what you mean by "displayed FROM field".

My email client (WLM) displays what's in the header, I would assume that's 
typical.  What else would it display?

I was responding to your statement that the From address wasn't the sender on 
the old list either.  It was.


-Original Message- 
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Yes, I agree that was in the header.  I was referring to function (displayed 
FROM field and the replied TO field).  Sorry if I wasn’t clear.  That was 
part of a longer conversation that explained the context

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and here is 
the From: header:

From: Bill Prince 



-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .

For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ...
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the 
e-mail.




- 
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is
coming from each time.

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into
the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the
upgrade "undid" that.

Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who
its from.


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:
> Looks way better now. Thanks Paul
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:
>
>> *slow clap*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>>
>> From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>>
>> I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
>> the original poster AND the list.
>>
>> It now only reply's to the list.
>> -- 
>> 
>> Curtis Brotherton
>> PDMNet
>> (772) 564-6800
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message- 
>> From: Jaime Solorza via Af > jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
>> Reply-to: >
>> To: Animal Farm > animal%20farm%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>, Paul McCall <
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>> <mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
>> %3e>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" > 
>> <mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote:
>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
>>> problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
>>> project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.
>>>
>>> PLEASE BE PATIENT.
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>> www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 
>>> <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Chuck McCown via Af]

Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully handling 
my 40 GB mail archive.


-Original Message- 
From: Paul McCall via Af

Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

What is WLM ?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Not sure what you mean by "displayed FROM field".

My email client (WLM) displays what's in the header, I would assume that's 
typical.  What else would it display?


I was responding to your statement that the From address wasn't the sender 
on the old list either.  It was.



-Original Message- 
From: Paul McCall via Af

Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Yes, I agree that was in the header.  I was referring to function (displayed
FROM field and the replied TO field).  Sorry if I wasn’t clear.  That was
part of a longer conversation that explained the context

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and here is
the From: header:

From: Bill Prince 



-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .

For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ...
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the
e-mail.




- 
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is
coming from each time.

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into
the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the
upgrade "undid" that.

Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who
its from.


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:

Looks way better now. Thanks Paul


On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:


*slow clap*




- 
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message - 


From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
the original poster AND the list.

It now only reply's to the list.
--

Curtis Brotherton
PDMNet
(772) 564-6800





-Original Message- 
From: Jaime Solorza via Af 
jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
Reply-to: >
To: Animal Farm %3e>>, Paul McCall <
pa...@pdmnet.net
<mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
%3e>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +



Thanks

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" 
<mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote:


Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 
<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net >

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

I googled it right after I clicked send.  "Google is your friend" is what I 
always tell my guys :)

Chuck, in your opinion, is WLM acting normally or acceptably as far as the list 
is concerned ?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully handling my 
40 GB mail archive.

-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

What is WLM ?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Not sure what you mean by "displayed FROM field".

My email client (WLM) displays what's in the header, I would assume that's 
typical.  What else would it display?

I was responding to your statement that the From address wasn't the sender on 
the old list either.  It was.


-Original Message- 
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Yes, I agree that was in the header.  I was referring to function (displayed
FROM field and the replied TO field).  Sorry if I wasn’t clear.  That was
part of a longer conversation that explained the context

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and here is
the From: header:

From: Bill Prince 



-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .

For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ...
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the
e-mail.




- 
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is
coming from each time.

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into
the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the
upgrade "undid" that.

Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who
its from.


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:
> Looks way better now. Thanks Paul
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:
>
>> *slow clap*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>>
>> From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>>
>> I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
>> the original poster AND the list.
>>
>> It now only reply's to the list.
>> -- 
>> 
>> Curtis Brotherton
>> PDMNet
>> (772) 564-6800
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Jaime Solorza via Af > jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
>> Reply-to: >
>> To: Animal Farm > animal%20farm%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>, Paul McCall <
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>> <mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
>> %3e>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
&

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Larry Smith via Af]

On Wed September 17 2014 08:55, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
> Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
> I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully handling
> my 40 GB mail archive.
>

LOL, that has been my issue for a few years now.  Have just over 92 GB
in my Kmail, close to 800 folders (many nested) and the _only_ mail
agent I have found that deals with it is Kmail (Linux KDE).

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Chuck McCown via Af]

Looks good to me.  But I did take a look at the message source and the 
actual true sender is not there like it used to be.


-Original Message- 
From: Paul McCall via Af

Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I googled it right after I clicked send.  "Google is your friend" is what I 
always tell my guys :)


Chuck, in your opinion, is WLM acting normally or acceptably as far as the 
list is concerned ?


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully handling 
my 40 GB mail archive.


-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

What is WLM ?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Not sure what you mean by "displayed FROM field".

My email client (WLM) displays what's in the header, I would assume that's 
typical.  What else would it display?


I was responding to your statement that the From address wasn't the sender 
on the old list either.  It was.



-Original Message- 
From: Paul McCall via Af

Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Yes, I agree that was in the header.  I was referring to function (displayed
FROM field and the replied TO field).  Sorry if I wasn’t clear.  That was
part of a longer conversation that explained the context

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and here is
the From: header:

From: Bill Prince 



-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .

For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ...
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the
e-mail.




- 
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is
coming from each time.

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into
the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the
upgrade "undid" that.

Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who
its from.


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:

Looks way better now. Thanks Paul


On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:


*slow clap*




- 
Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message - 


From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
the original poster AND the list.

It now only reply's to the list.
--

Curtis Brotherton
PDMNet
(772) 564-6800





-Original Message- 
From: Jaime Solorza via Af 
jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
Reply-to: >
To: Animal Farm %3e>>, Paul McCall <
pa...@pdmnet.net
<mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
%3e>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +



Thanks

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af&qu

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Paul McCall via Af]

Yes, OK...  That's what I expected at this point :)

Was just trying to answer all the inquiries to make sure functionality was 
there.  Any other "issue" is out on the table, so back to work :)

-Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Looks good to me.  But I did take a look at the message source and the actual 
true sender is not there like it used to be.

-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I googled it right after I clicked send.  "Google is your friend" is what I 
always tell my guys :)

Chuck, in your opinion, is WLM acting normally or acceptably as far as the list 
is concerned ?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully handling my 
40 GB mail archive.

-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

What is WLM ?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Not sure what you mean by "displayed FROM field".

My email client (WLM) displays what's in the header, I would assume that's 
typical.  What else would it display?

I was responding to your statement that the From address wasn't the sender on 
the old list either.  It was.


-Original Message- 
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Yes, I agree that was in the header.  I was referring to function (displayed
FROM field and the replied TO field).  Sorry if I wasn’t clear.  That was
part of a longer conversation that explained the context

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and here is
the From: header:

From: Bill Prince 



-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .

For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ...
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the
e-mail.




- 
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is
coming from each time.

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into
the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the
upgrade "undid" that.

Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who
its from.


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:
> Looks way better now. Thanks Paul
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:
>
>> *slow clap*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - 
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>>
>> From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
>>
>> I have also fixed the annoying 'Repl

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Chuck McCown via Af]

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Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Adam Moffett via Af]

How often do you guys go back and find something from your 40-90 gigs of 
email?  When you did need something, how successful were you at finding 
it?  I gave up trying to keep everything after realizing that I almost 
never wanted anything older than 6 months, and if I did then it took an 
inordinate amount of effort to find it.


I sort important things into foldersif I didn't sort it then it 
probably wasn't important. Everything in my inbox older than 6 months 
gets deleted.





On Wed September 17 2014 08:55, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully handling
my 40 GB mail archive.


LOL, that has been my issue for a few years now.  Have just over 92 GB
in my Kmail, close to 800 folders (many nested) and the _only_ mail
agent I have found that deals with it is Kmail (Linux KDE).

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Ken Hohhof via Af]

Here are headers from last week (highlighting is mine).
References:  and  In-Reply-To:  would be relevant to threading.


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-Original Message- 
From: Chuck McCown via Af 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:12 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments 

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Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Ken Hohhof via Af]

That's strange, the sent mail was in HTML format with highlighting, but what 
came back was plain text.  Does Amazon not allow HTML?  Or did I mess up? 
Or is a listserv option set to convert everything to plain text?


-Original Message- 
From: Ken Hohhof via Af

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Here are headers from last week (highlighting is mine).
References:  and  In-Reply-To:  would be relevant to threading.


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-Original Message- 
From: Chuck McCown via Af

Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

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Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[CBB - Jay Fuller via Af]

Often.  Very often.  I regularly search keywords.  Over the weekend i was 
looking at fiber conversations from when people started running fiber 2-3-4 
years ago.  I use it often.  Did I say often? :)

Same with our business - i am regularly referencing accounts and info from 
pre-powercode days.  Using an email search
Granted on windows mail it can take a while.  There are two searches - one is 
an "indexed" search which is supposed to be quick but i've found is only about 
20% accurate.  I'll typically use it first.  The advanced search (ctrl-f i 
think it is) will find every friggin thing ; sometimes it will even find false 
matches.

I often find myself finding one or two hits that are "relevant", i'll then read 
that message, then read the whole thread by subject.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Adam Moffett via Af 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments


  How often do you guys go back and find something from your 40-90 gigs of 
  email?  When you did need something, how successful were you at finding 
  it?  I gave up trying to keep everything after realizing that I almost 
  never wanted anything older than 6 months, and if I did then it took an 
  inordinate amount of effort to find it.

  I sort important things into foldersif I didn't sort it then it 
  probably wasn't important. Everything in my inbox older than 6 months 
  gets deleted.

  

  > On Wed September 17 2014 08:55, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
  >> Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
  >> I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully handling
  >> my 40 GB mail archive.
  >>
  > LOL, that has been my issue for a few years now.  Have just over 92 GB
  > in my Kmail, close to 800 folders (many nested) and the _only_ mail
  > agent I have found that deals with it is Kmail (Linux KDE).
  >

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Bill Prince via Af]

Maybe that's why Thunderchicken is working ok for me.  I only have a 
35GB archive.


bp

On 9/17/2014 6:55 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully 
handling my 40 GB mail archive.


-Original Message- From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

What is WLM ?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Not sure what you mean by "displayed FROM field".

My email client (WLM) displays what's in the header, I would assume 
that's typical.  What else would it display?


I was responding to your statement that the From address wasn't the 
sender on the old list either.  It was.



-Original Message- From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Yes, I agree that was in the header.  I was referring to function 
(displayed

FROM field and the replied TO field).  Sorry if I wasn’t clear. That was
part of a longer conversation that explained the context

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and 
here is

the From: header:

From: Bill Prince 



-Original Message-
From: Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

However, the old list said did say something like this... 
af@afmug.com; on
behalf of; Bill Prince   in the 
from.


Whereas the new list doesn’t show the 
.


For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ...
like this... --- [ Bill Prince  
wrote ]





-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the
e-mail.




- Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -

From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Matt,

I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is
coming from each time.

However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back 
into
the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, 
but the

upgrade "undid" that.

Thanks!

Paul

-Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On 
Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af

Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who
its from.


On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:

Looks way better now. Thanks Paul


On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  
wrote:



*slow clap*




- Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



- Original Message -
From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was 
replying to

the original poster AND the list.

It now only reply's to the list.
--

Curtis Brotherton
PDMNet
(772) 564-6800





-Original Message- From: Jaime Solorza via Af 
jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
Reply-to: >
To: Animal Farm %3e>>, Paul McCall <
pa...@pdmnet.net
<mailto:paul%20mccall%20%3cpa...@pdmnet.net
%3e>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 20:09:24 +



Thanks

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 16, 2014 6:43 AM, "Paul McCall via Af" 
<mailto:af@afmug.com >> wrote:


Guys,

We installed some updates in the middle of the night to fix the FROM
problem. There a couple tweaks that will be done today. My tech on the
project is now sleeping as we worked during the night.

PLEASE BE PATIENT.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com><http://www.pdmnet.com/>
pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net 
<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net >

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Bill Prince via Af]

Often enough.  I move all the stuff annually into an archive for that 
year.  My archives go back to 1994 or something.


bp

On 9/17/2014 7:26 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
How often do you guys go back and find something from your 40-90 gigs 
of email?  When you did need something, how successful were you at 
finding it?  I gave up trying to keep everything after realizing that 
I almost never wanted anything older than 6 months, and if I did then 
it took an inordinate amount of effort to find it.


I sort important things into foldersif I didn't sort it then it 
probably wasn't important. Everything in my inbox older than 6 months 
gets deleted.





On Wed September 17 2014 08:55, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:

Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully 
handling

my 40 GB mail archive.


LOL, that has been my issue for a few years now.  Have just over 92 GB
in my Kmail, close to 800 folders (many nested) and the _only_ mail
agent I have found that deals with it is Kmail (Linux KDE).

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[CBB - Jay Fuller via Af]

I'm using Windows mail from Windows Vista "hacked" for Windows 7.
My mail archive is about there - 32.3 gig, dating back to when I became a WISP 
in 2004

Of course i have 4 other businesses in my mail program too...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck McCown via Af 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments


  Windows Live Mail.  It was what replaced Outlook Express.
  I like it for most things.  But nothing is very good at gracefully handling 
  my 40 GB mail archive.

  -Original Message- 
  From: Paul McCall via Af
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  What is WLM ?

  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:49 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  Not sure what you mean by "displayed FROM field".

  My email client (WLM) displays what's in the header, I would assume that's 
  typical.  What else would it display?

  I was responding to your statement that the From address wasn't the sender 
  on the old list either.  It was.


  -Original Message- 
  From: Paul McCall via Af
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:10 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  Yes, I agree that was in the header.  I was referring to function (displayed
  FROM field and the replied TO field).  Sorry if I wasn’t clear.  That was
  part of a longer conversation that explained the context

  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:06 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  I looked at the headers of an email Bill sent via the old list and here is
  the From: header:

  From: Bill Prince 



  -Original Message-
  From: Paul McCall via Af
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:14 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  The From address  wasn’t the sender on the old list either.

  However, the old list said did say something like this...   af@afmug.com; on
  behalf of; Bill Prince   in the from.

  Whereas the new list doesn’t show the .

  For the moment, I believe that we will put that back in the body soon ...
  like this... --- [ Bill Prince  wrote ]




  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:37 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  I think he means that the From address isn't actually the sender of the
  e-mail.




  - 
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



  - Original Message -

  From: "Paul McCall via Af" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:53:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  Matt,

  I looked at all the threads for the past few hours, and I see who it is
  coming from each time.

  However, it does not show their email address... we can add that back into
  the body of the message I believe. That is how we had it yesterday, but the
  upgrade "undid" that.

  Thanks!

  Paul

  -Original Message- 
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:24 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

  Unless you sign your name to the email, there isn't any way of seeing who
  its from.


  On 09/16/2014 03:15 PM, Ryan Ray via Af wrote:
  > Looks way better now. Thanks Paul
  >
  >
  > On Tuesday, September 16, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af  wrote:
  >
  >> *slow clap*
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> - 
  >> Mike Hammett
  >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
  >> http://www.ics-il.com
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message - 
  >>
  >> From: "Curtis Brotherton via Af" >
  >> To: af@afmug.com 
  >> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34:33 PM
  >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments
  >>
  >> I have also fixed the annoying 'Reply To' issue, where it was replying to
  >> the original poster AND the list.
  >>
  >> It now only reply's to the list.
  >> -- 
  >> 
  >> Curtis Brotherton
  >> PDMNet
  >> (772) 564-6800
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> -Original Message- 
  >> From: Jaime Solorza via Af > jaime%20solorza%20via%20af%20%3...@afmug.com %3e>>
  >> Reply-to: >
  >> To:

Re: [AFMUG] LIST: Overnight adjustments

[Larry Smith via Af]

Very often, use it weekly if not every other day or so.
Hit rate is about 100% of things that actually exist in my email.
As Adam stated, sometimes get "false" positives if I do not
specify the search very well (ask for anything that contains radio
in the body and you get a LOT of hits)...

Everything (just about) that I have is in folders.  And some folders
of folders (EG: This list is under a Maildir folder labeled 0-Lists.
There are currently 32 other folders inside that one (ietf, nanog, cisco-nsp, 
etc).

 In my case we do a lot of gov (local, county, 911, etc) support and I often
have to go back one, two or even three and four years and "remind"
them what was discussed and what we agreed to do (or not)...

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Wed September 17 2014 09:26, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
> How often do you guys go back and find something from your 40-90 gigs of
> email?  When you did need something, how successful were you at finding
> it?  I gave up trying to keep everything after realizing that I almost
> never wanted anything older than 6 months, and if I did then it took an
> inordinate amount of effort to find it.
>
> I sort important things into foldersif I didn't sort it then it
> probably wasn't important. Everything in my inbox older than 6 months
> gets deleted.