Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modwright TP: Balanced or Single Ended
Kind of makes a mockery of threads like what balanced DAC should I buy. My understanding is that in theory balanced should have the edge, but requires a good implementation, and as such can result in a worse solution. After years of seeing this kind of technology at all costs being preached, I'm now a believer in the idea that if it sounds better, then it is. Go enjoy! -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48673 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Robin Bowes;309312 Wrote: Nenad, Calm down. Ok, I'll try. Robin (and many others) points out this bug doesn't affect many people because: - Audiophiles don't listen to lossless - Average Joe dont need high quality So, conclusion is, high quality mp3 playback is not important to most users, and this bug have low priority. BUT, at the same time, all slimdevices (Squeeze, duet, transporter) have these statements in specification (my caps and bold): Compressed formats (MP3, AAC, Ogg Vorbis, MP2, MusePack, WMA) MPEG decoding uses MAD software, *WIDELY REGARDED AS THE MOST ACCURATE*, most compatible MP3 decoder. *HIGH ACCURACY 24-BIT SYNTHESIS* Supports all MP3 data rates and sample rates, including VBR I understand these statements as advertising of high quality mp3 playback capability. So, - When you need to make selling point, high quality mp3 playback capability *IS IMPORTANT* and emphasized in specification. - When you need to fix bugs, high quality mp3 playback capability *IS NOT SO IMPORTANT* and bugs have low priority. In my opinion, because of bug, slimdevices mp3 playback quality is bellow average, because *accuracy of decoder(because of bug) is about 10-12 correct bits* (my estimation - needs testing but I believe it is true). Statements in specification gave *false impression of high quality mp3 playback capability*, when implementation quality, because of bug, is *bellow average*. To make conclusion, *IF SLIMDEVICES IS FAIR AND HONEST COMPANY*, they will *remove false claims* of high quality mp3 playback from specification and other advertising material * until this bug is fixed *( it is now open more then six months). Please feel free to comment flaws in my logic here. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lite DAC 60 and SB3 for sale
Hi All, thought I'd try here before going the Ebay route - I have a Lite DAC 60 and a SB3 ( with linear power supply ) for sale, all items are as new, I'm based in Surrey in the UK - any offers ? -- pkfox When the going gets weird - the weird turn pro. Hunter S Thompson pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48675 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
To Phil Leigh: Please accept my apology because I overreacted and use some words which are inappropriate. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modwright TP: Balanced or Single Ended
dtz;310004 Wrote: So after some tube swapping and some head scratching I tried it single ended. New RCA's are part of the mod and the old RCA's are disconnected. What a difference. The frequency extension is back as well as the dynamics. It went from dullsville to musicland. Almost any review I've ever read said, if something can be used balanced it should be. I was a bit surprised to find, in this case, the opposite to be true. Anyone else have a similar experience? Thanks for any replies. The stock TP is an intrinsically balanced device, and its unbalanced output is derived from that. IME the balanced output is distinctly better. The Modwright update completely replaces the analogue output stage, right? Reading their website, they say that their balanced output uses custom wound transformers. This implies their output stage is an intrinsically unbalanced design. It would therefore be no surprise that balanced signal, after it has been through a transformer, might be degraded in some way. If you have short interconnects it is therefore quite feasible that the unbalanced output would sound better. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48673 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Personal Introductions: Please Make This a Sticky!
Hi there, since last weekend I enjoy playing around with my new favourite toy, the Squeezebox Duet. I love everything about it, the sound quality, the looks and the usability. I'm routing it to my Solen Tigre hybrid amplifier, from there via Silent Wire cabling to my Audiophysics Yara Evolution speakers. Right now, I'm having a hard time in finding any improvement in sound quality when using the RME ADI-2 as an external DAC. When I don't find any help in this issue soon, the DAC has to go and I'll invest in better speakers instead. ;) Greetings from Hamburg, Germany, Zardoz! -- Zardoz Zardoz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RME ADI-2 - External DAC issue
Hi, since last weekend I'm the proud owner of a Squeezebox Duet. I also bought a RME ADI-2 mastering quality DAC to improve audio quality. The funny thing is, to my ears there is no audible difference/improvement when I compare its output to the Duets analog jacks, neither with optical nor coax connection. In the upper scenario I used the Squeezeboxes clock to slave the external DAC. As far as I know, the ADI-2 can also be used as a master clock for the Squeezebox. When I try to switch the DAC into the correct mode (44.1khz) the sound is worsened by dropouts. Could anyone help me in this, because I'm about to sell the DAC and use the Squeezebox without it. Is this behaviour the same with every other DAC or is it related to the ADI? Thanks in advance, Zardoz! -- Zardoz Zardoz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48679 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RME ADI-2 - External DAC issue
I've had an RME ADI-2. Nice DAC, but not top notch. Its far behind the brilliant Transporter. I've never heard the Duet, so I cannot comment on its sound, but it wouldn't amaze me at all if the Duet is at least as good as, if not better, than your ADI-2 The dropouts are a typical clock synch problem, indicating that the DAC and the source are not using the same clock source. -- StigErik StigErik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48679 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
sikahr;310056 Wrote: To Phil Leigh: Please accept my apology because I overreacted and use some words which are inappropriate. Peace, Nenad Nenad, Apology Accepted Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RME ADI-2 - External DAC issue
Thanks StigErik, that's weird. I'd never thought that the squeezebox would actually outperform a professional production level DAC 600 worth! To be honest, I'll give it another test run this evening. I've learned that in order to make the ADI-2 the clock master, I'd have to connect the ADIs digital out to the squeezeboxes digital in for clock synchronizing. The regular Duet doesn't come with a digital in, so there's no way of using the clock of an external dac as master. It works with the transporter though. For 2000 the transporter is not an option for me right now. As far as I see it, there's no audible sound improvement by adding an external DAC. At least in the price range under 1000. Do you feel the same? Hopefully this doesn't lead to flamewars, I'm just thinking about rerouting the money I spent on the ADI-2 to something else if it doesn't improve the sound. Cheers, Zardoz -- Zardoz Zardoz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48679 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RME ADI-2 - External DAC issue
Zardoz - to be clear the ADI-2 doesn't have a word-clock output (or input). It always uses the clock in the spdif or ADAT/Toslink signal or it replaces them with its internal clock. To really get a big improvement on the SB internal DAC, you'd need one with word-clock output (so the DAC can drive the SB) - and the SB would need to have a word-clock input added (modders can do this). These tend to be expensive DAC's! Also, opinions are divided on just how much better this arrangement would be over a closely coupled DAC as in the Transporter. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48679 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RME ADI-2 - External DAC issue
Zardoz;310088 Wrote: Thanks StigErik, that's weird. I'd never thought that the squeezebox would actually outperform a professional production level DAC 600 worth! To be honest, I'll give it another test run this evening. - For 2000 the transporter is not an option for me right now. As far as I see it, there's no audible sound improvement by adding an external DAC. At least in the price range under 1000. Do you feel the same? Hopefully this doesn't lead to flamewars, I'm just thinking about rerouting the money I spent on the ADI-2 to something else if it doesn't improve the sound. Cheers, Zardoz I didnt think so either, but when I heard the Transporter I was very very impressed with it. It crushed the ADI-2, and compares very well with my 3000$ RME ADI-8 QS. It wont surprise me if the SB3 compares well with the ADI-2. I have two SB3, but I have never listened too closely to their analog out to make any serious comment (one is used on the porch, and the other one only with digital output). My 0,02$ would be to save up for a Transporter. Then you'll have the best media player on the market, and maybe the best DAC in its price range. I got mine for ~2000$, which is ~1500. Not to bad. -- StigErik StigErik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48679 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modwright TP: Balanced or Single Ended
I'm a MWTP owner (first one, in fact) and have tried multiple XLR's and RCA's but have never been able to a/b using the same cable model. I use RCA's only (I thought) cuz the Stealth Nanofiber midrange is wonderful, and I only have Nanofiber in RCA. Maybe it's more than that, as Clive suggests. DTZ, what cables did you use when swapping? Could that variable be enough? -- ted_b ted_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48673 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Trade: My silver Transporter for your black Transporter
...still looking to trade my Silver Transporter for a Black Transporter. If interested, PM me. Thanks. -- JayNYC JayNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46717 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Behringer DEQ2496 in Transporter digital loop for room correction?
Robin Bowes;309997 Wrote: HalleysComet wrote: How do I turn this sucker on? Settings | Player | Audio | Effects loop input - choose the appropriate input Also, set Effects loop clock mode to Synchronous: Transporter is master R. No wonder I was having trouble! Perhaps I have the wrong version of SqueezeCenter 7 because this option doesn't exist on my list of settings under Settings | Player | Audio. I have 14 heading options there, and none of them is Effects Loop. I'll try updating to the latest version and see if it appears. Thanks so much! -- HalleysComet HalleysComet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14590 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48350 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Behringer DEQ2496 in Transporter digital loop for room correction?
OK That's got it! Downloaded and installed 7.1 and there's the option. Whew!! I thought I was going nuts. Turns out the effects option wasn't shown in the first version of 7.0 that I've been using. I'll document my Behringer settings and results when I get the setup done, in case someone else wants to do this. Thanks again Robin! -- HalleysComet HalleysComet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14590 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48350 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modwright TP: Balanced or Single Ended
Ted: I'm using Audience AU24 in both systems. I use equal lengths of balanced or single ended so that isn't a variable. Thanks for the response guys. -- dtz dtz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15444 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48673 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modwright TP: Balanced or Single Ended
Here's Dan's reply: The ModWright Transporter is terminated via custom-wound output transformers. The outputs are, thus, truly balanced. The RCA's are ALSO connected to the OPT's, using only one leg of the signal from the OPT. While in theory, one might assume that adding any active device such as an output transformer may degrade the sound, you must also consider what the transformer does. A. Lowers output impedance to 110ohm. B. Filters out all out of BW noice 60Khz. C. Converts SE input into true balanced output. D. Allows for phase correction of RCA outs. There is no reason why RCA outs should sound better than XLR's, assuming all else is equal. It is possible that there is a phase issue here, but cannot be certain. The only way that the balanced outs could possibly sound bass shy and lacking in clarity and dynamics, would be if one output was wired out of phase from the other. Again, however, the comparison is only valid if the same preamp is used to evaluate the outputs, RCA vs. XLR and cabling the same. I am not sure of all of the variables. By all means, if you have any concerns about the unit, we would be happy to take a look at it under warranty for you. Thanks, Dan Wright President, ModWright Instruments Inc. www.modwright.com ModWright LLC - www.modwright.com -- ted_b ted_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48673 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modwright TP: Balanced or Single Ended
Thanks for going the extra mile. I should be able to get my hands on some other cables to try to figure this out. Maybe I'm just daft. If there is a problem, I'll contact Dan. Thanks again. -- dtz dtz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15444 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48673 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
cliveb;308940 Wrote: You appear to be extremely worried about sound quality, and yet choose to use MP3. These two positions strike me as curiously in conflict. Surely if you're that worried about sound quality, you should switch to a lossless codec (and then the MP3 bug wouldn't be an issue for you). So he shouldn't be able to get the best sound quality out of what he has? Just because there exists something better? Maybe he already has a couple of hundred albums encoded to Mp3. My car is not handling well because they put the wrong tires on I'd like it fixed. Oh if your worried about handling just drive a BMW. I can't imagine you being worried about handling if you don't drive a BMW. The other thing is yes Flac is great but maybe 1 in 10,000 can really hear a difference between it and a 320 lame Mp3. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Behringer DEQ2496 in Transporter digital loop for room correction?
I thought it might be useful to someone to document the steps I went through to make the Behringer DEQ2496 work in the effects loop of the Transporter. So I'm attaching a couple of posts as sort of a primer, in the hopes that the next person who does this will benefit. First I'll talk about setup, then the process. Physical install: I used digital AES/EBU cables with XLR connectors I got from a pro music shop. Connected a digital AES/EBU cable from the TP output to the Behringer input. Connect another cable from the TP input to the Behringer output. Finally, connect calibrated microphone to XLR microphone input, and tape mike to listening chair in position of head. I used a tape measure to measure distance of microphone to center of speaker drivers. Adjust for exact distances required. You'll need your Transporter updated with the latest beta firmware, currently FV42. You'll also need the most recent SqueezeCenter supported release (I found this out the hard way). The option to select the effects loop doesn't exist in version 7.0! Choose to enable the loop using AES/EBU. Scroll down and make sure that the Transporter is running in Syncronous mode using its own clock. Once you've done this, you can turn on the Behringer to check it out. The DEQ2496 is by far the hardest part of this whole process. Push the I/O button on the behringer (right hand side, bottom center of 9-button matrix) to select the digital input. Rotate the select wheel to pick the Dig In XLR input Then play some music make sure the meter on far left is moving. Use lower button beneath meter to display different meter screens. when tired of this...push RTA button on top of second column of buttons to show the frequency bars (response by frequency) More setup: * Push the tab button on upper left by screen to select the second screen, then used the middle button on the left to select AES 3 * Pushed the tab button again to select the third screen, then selected the RTA Mic to use the microphone as the input for the RTA (Real Time Analyzer); note that there's a gain button here for the mike gain, if needed (lower left button) * Pushed the tab button for the fourth screen to confirm that there is no digital delay selected * Now you should set the unit to Dual Mono rather than Stereo. Push the Utility button on the lower left of the matrix of 9 buttons. Use the small scroll wheels to move up or down in the menu. Find the Channel Mode item, and rotate the large scroll wheel to Dual Mono and press to accept that setting Next post: Room equalization process -- HalleysComet HalleysComet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14590 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48350 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Behringer DEQ2496 in Transporter digital loop for room correction?
Assuming things are working, it's time to try some measurement. Turn down the amplifier! * first, need to enable pink noise. Push I/O button again select first tab. Use large scroll wheel to move input from Dig In XLR to Pink Noise then push in scroll wheel to select. You should hear the rush/roar of pink noise. Turn it up until your significant other complains about the jet plane taking off (anyway, works better good'n loud). Then select another input or something so you don't have to listen to it while you finish getting ready * Now if you push the button on the upper left of the unit labelled RTA you can see the response of your room to pink noise played through your system. In theory, pink noise has equal energy at every frequency, so where the display shows peaks and valleys, that's the response of your system/room deviates from flat. Pretty discouraging, huh? So how do we fix this? First, you can relocate your speakers. Moving them closer/further from the wall, or closer/further from corners can have profound effects on their response. Second, you can change your room, such as by adding carpets, curtains, or room treatments, such as the very-effective RealTraps. Or you can try to change the relative frequency spectrum that is sent to your amplifier by your source via digital correction using the Behringer. If you use the Behringer, you can do it either manually, or let the unit Auto-Equalize. The latter is kinda cool, if you don't expect too much. I start with Auto as a baseline, then twiddle to make fine adjustments. There are some parameters that will make it work better, such as not letting it auto-equalize below 100Hz or above 18kHz. Also the usual rules apply: don't try to force your amp/speakers to produce frequencies of which they are incapable, so don't boost the low bass in an effort to squeeze blood out of a stone. Now it's time to set your target curves. This is the goal to which you are trying to optimize response. For starters, you can try for a flat response. There might be other target curves you prefer, such as the famous BBC curve. Press the upper left button (GEQ) in the matrix of 9 buttons on the right. This gives you a screen where you can see the frequency spectrum, and the boost or cut that the unit is applying. If you push and hold the button on the lower left of the screen you can reset these to flat The middle button on the left of the screen lets you select which channel you're viewing, right or left. If you hold it down for a couple of seconds, you can adjust both channels in tandem. BTW, this is one of the really cool parts of the unit. You can use the scroll wheels to select specific frequencies, then adjust them up or down with the big scroll wheel. The lower scroll wheel lets you change the bandwidth of the equalization, so you can create a nice parametric adjustment that is spread over related frequencies. If you push the lower scroll wheel, you can change its mode to a shelf mode that lets you boost or cut all the frequencies above/below a set frequency. Lotsa cool stuff here. Now it's time to let the Behringer do a self-adjust to reach your target curve. Push the button on the upper left RTA The screen has 3 tabs. The bottom left button lets you start the auto-EQ feature and sends you to your target curves. After you set your curves, press the upper left Page button which will take you to the second screen, showing your pink noise response again. This time, push the middle button on the left which starts the auto EQ process. Actually there are some other parameters you can set, such as how fast it modifies parameters (I like fast to start, then slow to finalize), but at this point the unit samples each frequency and auto-adjusts the parametric equalizer to come as close as possible to your target curve. When it stops moving things around, press Done, on the lower left, then go look at your curves. If you play pink noise again, you should see things are now much closer than they were before. Some frequencies are still whacked out, and you can manually set the lows to help manage room bass nodes. Back and forth between settings until you are all fiddled out. You can save these curves, and name them, and create new ones, and knock yourself out. But that's the basic process. Now you can go back to the I/O screen and select your TP as input Dig In XLR Then when you play music, you'll be amazed at the transformation. You may not like it at first, but give it some time. After a while you'll find it hard to go back to the unadjusted sound of most rooms. Hope this helps someone! Frank -- HalleysComet HalleysComet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14590 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48350 ___ audiophiles mailing list
