Re: newbie question with wildcard in sitemap

[Joerg Heinicke]

You have a  surrounding not only this . This 
 makes it necessary to use {../1}:



Regards,

Joerg

Sliman Bouchareb wrote:
hi cocooners,

i have the following directory structrue:

cocoon:|
 |protected-
|-docs -
  |-home
  |-fr
  |.
|-stylsheets
|-descriptors
|-css
and the followinf sitemap:




  
  
  
  



  



  
* after a successfull login i call the uri 	home/home.section

and then i have the following match:




  
  
  
  
  


  
  
  


  
  
  
  
  





  
* well this works fine, nut i want to substitute  with 
because i have many ressources, but this dont work :-(, why that ?
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newbie question with wildcard in sitemap

[Sliman Bouchareb]

hi cocooners,

i have the following directory structrue:

cocoon:|
 |protected-
|-docs -
  |-home
  |-fr
  |.
|-stylsheets
|-descriptors
|-css

and the followinf sitemap:




  
  
  
  



  



  


* after a successfull login i call the uri  home/home.section

and then i have the following match:





  
  
  
  
  




  
  
  



  
  
  
  
  





  

* well this works fine, nut i want to substitute  with 
because i have many ressources, but this dont work :-(, why that ?


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Re: Newbie Question: Where do I add to sitemap?

[Ross Bleakney]

Nevermind, I found the answer: put the  element inside

Thanks,
Ross

On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 17:35, Ross Bleakney wrote:
> Cocooners,
> I have created an action, but I need to modify my sitemap.xmap like so:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Where do I put this? I've tried putting it before the components, after
> the components, etc. I've looked at a bunch of examples, but they don't
> show the entire file (only snippets).
> 
> Thanks,
> Ross
> 
> 
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RE: Newbie Question: Where do I add to sitemap?

[Steven Cummings]

Actions go *inside* components (actions are a type of component, like generator, 
serializer, transformer, etc.):


  
...
 etc. etc.

HTH

/S

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>Cocooners,
>I have created an action, but I need to modify my sitemap.xmap like so:
>
>
>
>
>
>Where do I put this? I've tried putting it before the components, after
>the components, etc. I've looked at a bunch of examples, but they don't
>show the entire file (only snippets).
>
>Thanks,
>Ross
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Newbie Question: Where do I add to sitemap?

[Ross Bleakney]

Cocooners,
I have created an action, but I need to modify my sitemap.xmap like so:





Where do I put this? I've tried putting it before the components, after
the components, etc. I've looked at a bunch of examples, but they don't
show the entire file (only snippets).

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RE: Newbie question about CSS display

[Geoff Howard]

>From this line in the logs:
DEBUG (2003-03-28) 16:41:55.909 [sitemap] (/cocoon/book/book.css)
Thread-7/sitemap_xmap: Matched wildcard pattern book/*

it appears you have a match that you didn't refer to here:













are you sure there is no book/* pattern in your sitemap?
Move the *.css pattern to the beginning of that pipeline and
I bet you'll be in business.

> There is a *.css in the main sitemap. Would that conflict with this one in
> this sub-sitemap (cocoon/book/sitemap.xmap)?
>

No - **.css would, if it came _before_ the map:mount.  Don't forget that
pipeline
matches are tried in order and the first match is used.  A * wildcard
matches
any text except a file separator / which is why book/book.css wouldn't get
matched.
A ** though includes the separator and would match book/book.css unless
another
match gets there first.

HTH,
Geoff Howard

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Newbie question about CSS display
>
>
> > Ah, interesting ;-) As I expected it ...
> >
> > Please have a look into the log files. You should get more information
> > there, e.g. something like a stacktrace. It seems, that the
> book.css can't
> be
> > found on the disk, where it should be to found (as you
> specified it in the
> > sitemap). But the pipeline matching on *.css you sent already in this
> thread looked
> > ok. Maybe another pipeline matches already earlier on *.css in the
> sitemap?
> >
> There is a *.css in the main sitemap. Would that conflict with this one in
> this sub-sitemap (cocoon/book/sitemap.xmap)?
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display--CORRECTION

[Joe Williams]

There is no *.css in main sitemap, but I have not looked through all the
files.
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Subject: Re: Newbie question about CSS display


> > Ah, interesting ;-) As I expected it ...
> >
> > Please have a look into the log files. You should get more information
> > there, e.g. something like a stacktrace. It seems, that the book.css
can't
> be
> > found on the disk, where it should be to found (as you specified it in
the
> > sitemap). But the pipeline matching on *.css you sent already in this
> thread looked
> > ok. Maybe another pipeline matches already earlier on *.css in the
> sitemap?
> >
> There is a *.css in the main sitemap. Would that conflict with this one in
> this sub-sitemap (cocoon/book/sitemap.xmap)?
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

> Ah, interesting ;-) As I expected it ...
>
> Please have a look into the log files. You should get more information
> there, e.g. something like a stacktrace. It seems, that the book.css can't
be
> found on the disk, where it should be to found (as you specified it in the
> sitemap). But the pipeline matching on *.css you sent already in this
thread looked
> ok. Maybe another pipeline matches already earlier on *.css in the
sitemap?
>
There is a *.css in the main sitemap. Would that conflict with this one in
this sub-sitemap (cocoon/book/sitemap.xmap)?


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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

> 1. the file is not in the same directory as the xml (according to the
> earlier sent match patterns and pipelines),
> 2. the pipeline for the CSS does not look like the sent one
> 3. or there is another pipeline matching on *.css before the sent one. And
> this one searches for the CSS file on another place on the disk.
>
> A look into the log file, especially for stacktraces, will help I think.
> Maybe one can see a FileNotFoundException (or Resource...) with the
specified
> path, where the file was searched for.
>
In access.log:

WARN (2003--3-28) 16:41.55.945 [access] (/cocoon/book/book.css)
Thread-7/CocoonServlet: The resource was not found
org.apache.cocoon.ResourceNotFoundException: No pipeline matched request:
book/book.css

In sitemap.log:

DEBUG (2003-03-28) 16:41:55.909 [sitemap] (/cocoon/book/book.css)
Thread-7/sitemap_xmap: Matched wildcard pattern book/*
DEBUG (2003-03-28) 16:41:55.909 [sitemap] (/cocoon/book/book.css)
Thread-7/AbstractSitemap:
Current Sitemap Parameters:
PARAM: VALUE: 'book.css'
PARAM: '0' VALUE: 'book'/book.css'


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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Jörg Heinicke]

> > This only for clarification. Test the stylesheet independent of the
> DocBook
> > HTML with "http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book.css";. If you get it,
> hmm,
> I
> > don't know. If not, what do you get?
> >
> When I follow the suggestion to access the CSS alone, I get this error:
> 
> type resource-not-found
> 
> message Resource not found
> 
> description The requested URI "/cocoon/book/book.css" was not found.
> 
> sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
> 
> source Cocoon servlet
> 
> request-uri
> 
> /cocoon/book/book.css
> 
> path-info
> 
> book/book.css

Stupid mail client, simply ignores the reply-to header ...

I wrote, that the above error message is probably caused by the not found
CSS file on a place, where it should be to found, because it's specified in the
sitemap. There can not be many reasons:
1. the file is not in the same directory as the xml (according to the
earlier sent match patterns and pipelines),
2. the pipeline for the CSS does not look like the sent one
3. or there is another pipeline matching on *.css before the sent one. And
this one searches for the CSS file on another place on the disk.

A look into the log file, especially for stacktraces, will help I think.
Maybe one can see a FileNotFoundException (or Resource...) with the specified
path, where the file was searched for.

Regards,

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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

When I try to reach the CSS directly, I get a Cocoon error (see below).

> What do you want to reach with
>
> 
>
> ?? Do you have a global  in your
book.xsl?

No, I do not. I commented that line out, and the link to the CSS still
appears in the HTML result, so it obviously doesn't do anything useful here.
Not sure why I put that in there, except for my newbieness...just hacking
around to see if I could get it to work.

> This only for clarification. Test the stylesheet independent of the
DocBook
> HTML with "http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book.css";. If you get it, hmm,
I
> don't know. If not, what do you get?
>
When I follow the suggestion to access the CSS alone, I get this error:

type resource-not-found

message Resource not found

description The requested URI "/cocoon/book/book.css" was not found.

sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet

source Cocoon servlet

request-uri

/cocoon/book/book.css

path-info

book/book.css



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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joerg Heinicke]

Hello Joe,

Joe Williams wrote:
Thanks for the response, let me see if this makes things clearer.

I'm not getting an error message, but the formatting changes to the DocBook
XSL (by means of my CSS) do not appear in the browser.
The URL:

http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book

This succeeds in calling the document. When I view the source of the
displayed HTML, the link to the CSS stylesheet appears:

so far everything seems to be clear and ok. Try to access

http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book.css

in your browser to see if you get the CSS.

Therefore, I expect the changes to appear, but they do not. The CSS is in
the same directory ("book") as the XML source ("book.xml") the XSL
stylesheet ("book.xsl") and the CSS ("book.css")
This is more or less not interesting for the browser. Important is only the 
mapping in the sitemap. You wrote already you have the following two pipelines:


  


  


  
  

  

Only here (= for the sitemap) the directories are interesting. As you wrote 
the pipeline it's correct to have both files in the same directory.

What do you want to reach with



?? Do you have a global  in your book.xsl? 
Otherwise the  is useless. You already configured your 
DocBook with



and that's correct.

This only for clarification. Test the stylesheet independent of the DocBook 
HTML with "http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book.css";. If you get it, hmm, I 
don't know. If not, what do you get?

I have not tried Lionel's suggestions yet, but will do so.
Sorry, but this won't help you much. You don't want to include the CSS in 
the DocBook HTML, but a  element refering to the CSS. So you only must 
pass the CSS's name and not the CSS itself to the XSLT stylesheet.

Using document('host:8080/book.css') won't work either, because you can't 
read text with it, only XML.

And the third suggestion using a  can break the 
DocBook transformation completely. Use the parameterization as suggested by 
Norman Walsh and as you already did it.

Regards,

Joerg

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From: "Joerg Heinicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Joe,

you don't give very exact error description, only "it does not work". So
it's only possible to guess. Or you give us more information.
I guess the error is a missing or a wrong match for the CSS.

The information you can provide:

1. Which URL do you type in the browser for the Cocoon delivered HTML.

2. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the docbook
transformation look like.
3. How does the  tag for the CSS in the generated HTML look like?

4. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the CSS look
like?

The transformation offline or in Cocoon may be different (but I don't
really

think so), but has nothing to do with the loading of the CSS.

Regards,

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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

Thanks for the response, let me see if this makes things clearer.

I'm not getting an error message, but the formatting changes to the DocBook
XSL (by means of my CSS) do not appear in the browser.

The URL:

http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book

This succeeds in calling the document. When I view the source of the
displayed HTML, the link to the CSS stylesheet appears:



Therefore, I expect the changes to appear, but they do not. The CSS is in
the same directory ("book") as the XML source ("book.xml") the XSL
stylesheet ("book.xsl") and the CSS ("book.css")

I have not tried Lionel's suggestions yet, but will do so.


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From: "Joerg Heinicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Newbie question about CSS display


> Hello Joe,
>
> you don't give very exact error description, only "it does not work". So
> it's only possible to guess. Or you give us more information.
>
> I guess the error is a missing or a wrong match for the CSS.
>
> The information you can provide:
>
> 1. Which URL do you type in the browser for the Cocoon delivered HTML.
>
> 2. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the docbook
> transformation look like.
>
> 3. How does the  tag for the CSS in the generated HTML look like?
>
> 4. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the CSS look
like?
>
> The transformation offline or in Cocoon may be different (but I don't
really
> think so), but has nothing to do with the loading of the CSS.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joerg
>
> Joe Williams wrote:
> > Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon,
my
> > background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
> > searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
> >
> > Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want
to
> > change the styles using a CSS.
> >
> > My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from
the
> > command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
> >
> > Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur
differently
> > when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
> >
> > A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
>
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Lionel Crine]

It's a little bit confused but if you want to do it.

You should declare do :





then :





  --> I'm 
not really sure value attribute can get a cocoon protocol, but why not.





In the xsl document :

 --> I'm not sure this 
is working because if you want to call an URL, you  should use the 
document() fonction like this.  document('host:8080/book.css").
text/css



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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

The link to the stylesheet appears in the HTML output.

I am using a sub-sitemap with the pipeline:














And I am adding the parameters to my DocBook customization layer, per Norm
and Bob's documentation:


text/css

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Subject: Re: Newbie question about CSS display


Check your sitemap ... You probably don't have the correct pipeline/match
for
it.

> Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
> background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
> searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
>
> Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want
to
> change the styles using a CSS.
>
> My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
> command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
>
> Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
> when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
>
> A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
>
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Lionel Crine]

Joe,

you're question is so wide.

Here is how I use a CSS in an XSL file.

load the CSS.


  

  

load the file :


  
  
  

In the XSL file :


  
   
   --> link 
to the style.
   
   

   
  




hope this help.
At 17:19 28/03/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Hello Joe,

you don't give very exact error description, only "it does not work". So 
it's only possible to guess. Or you give us more information.

I guess the error is a missing or a wrong match for the CSS.

The information you can provide:

1. Which URL do you type in the browser for the Cocoon delivered HTML.

2. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the docbook 
transformation look like.

3. How does the  tag for the CSS in the generated HTML look like?

4. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the CSS look like?

The transformation offline or in Cocoon may be different (but I don't 
really think so), but has nothing to do with the loading of the CSS.

Regards,

Joerg

Joe Williams wrote:
Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want to
change the styles using a CSS.
My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joerg Heinicke]

Hello Joe,

you don't give very exact error description, only "it does not work". So 
it's only possible to guess. Or you give us more information.

I guess the error is a missing or a wrong match for the CSS.

The information you can provide:

1. Which URL do you type in the browser for the Cocoon delivered HTML.

2. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the docbook 
transformation look like.

3. How does the  tag for the CSS in the generated HTML look like?

4. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the CSS look like?

The transformation offline or in Cocoon may be different (but I don't really 
think so), but has nothing to do with the loading of the CSS.

Regards,

Joerg

Joe Williams wrote:
Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want to
change the styles using a CSS.
My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Yves Vindevogel]

Check your sitemap ... You probably don't have the correct pipeline/match for 
it.

> Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
> background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
> searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
>
> Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want to
> change the styles using a CSS.
>
> My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
> command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
>
> Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
> when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
>
> A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
>
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Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.

Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want to
change the styles using a CSS.

My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
command line, but not when I use Cocoon.

Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?

A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.


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Re: newbie question

[Tellis George]

Hi Derek, Hussayn,

Thanks for the replies. Now that I know it is very much in the realms of 
possibility, I will
read up a bit more on cocoon and understand how it works.  Once I read up a 
bit more I should
be able to ask more specific questions  

Thanks a lot for all your support 

Regards
Tellis



From: "Derek Hohls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:55:07 +0200

Tellis

Also have a look at:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=IntegrateAServlet

As you can see, it assumes some knowledge of Cocoon
wrt to  and other jargon - but you may be able
to get the essence of it

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 01:25:39 >>>
Thanks for the excellent information. One of my main concern was how to

integrate cocoon with existing services and servlets without
necessarily
making them part of cocoon ...

>From: "Derek Hohls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: newbie question
>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:36:06 +0200
>
>Tellis
>
>You ask "is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for
>highly interactive dynamic pages?"
>
>Very short version answer is:
>Yes, Cocoon can be used for both.
>
>Slightly longer:
>Cocoon essentially *is* a servlet, designed to enable the creation of
>XML (from static files, databases, web services or other sources) and
>provide an efficient and effective framework for manipluating that
XML
>into a variety of output formats (including all the ones you list).
>Cocoon
>works whether you have a single file or a whole multitude with any
>combination of static or dynamic.
>
>Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page at:
>http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)
>Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX
>processing,
>  Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on a separation of
concerns
>
>between content, logic, and style. Cocoon's centralized configuration
>system
>helps you to create, deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server
>applications.
>Cocoon interacts with most data sources, including filesystems,
RDBMS,
>
>LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data sources.
>It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different devices
>like
>HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a few.
>You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a powerful,
>commandline interface.
>The deliberate design of its abstract environment gives you the
freedom
>
>to extend its functionality to meet your special needs in a highly
>modular fashion.
>
>
>By now this should have answered your question (but you probably have
>others!) -
>look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html

>) and
>browse from there - also look at the
>http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main
>Wiki site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and
>trying to explain
>what they find to others...
>
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>
>Hi,
>
>I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks
for
>my
>company.
>Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because
the
>
>pages in my
>web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated
>on the
>fly. The backend services
>although still under design may be developed using JINI, object
>databases,
>LDAP etc
>
>The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel
>capabilities.
>We may want to target
>the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My
>original
>(very simplistic) design was
>to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using
>XSLT.
>This is where I thought cocoon would help.
>
>My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used
for
>
>highly interactive dynamic pages?
>
>
>Regards
>Tellis
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: newbie question

[Derek Hohls]

Tellis
 
Also have a look at:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=IntegrateAServlet
 
As you can see, it assumes some knowledge of Cocoon
wrt to  and other jargon - but you may be able
to get the essence of it>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
27/01/2003 01:25:39 >>>Thanks for the excellent information. One of 
my main concern was how to integrate cocoon with existing services and 
servlets without necessarily making them part of cocoon ...>From: 
"Derek Hohls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: Re: newbie 
question>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:36:06 
+0200>>Tellis>>You ask "is cocoon good for static 
pages or can it be used for>highly interactive dynamic 
pages?">>Very short version answer is:>Yes, Cocoon can be 
used for both.>>Slightly longer:>Cocoon essentially *is* a 
servlet, designed to enable the creation of>XML (from static files, 
databases, web services or other sources) and>provide an efficient and 
effective framework for manipluating that XML>into a variety of output 
formats (including all the ones you list).>Cocoon>works whether 
you have a single file or a whole multitude with any>combination of 
static or dynamic.>>Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page 
at:>http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)>Designed 
for performance and scalability around pipelined 
SAX>processing,>  Cocoon offers a flexible environment based 
on a separation of concerns>>between content, logic, and style. 
Cocoon's centralized configuration>system>helps you to create, 
deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server>applications.>Cocoon 
interacts with most data sources, including filesystems, 
RDBMS,>>LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data 
sources.>It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different 
devices>like>HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a 
few.>You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a 
powerful,>commandline interface.>The deliberate design of its 
abstract environment gives you the freedom>>to extend its 
functionality to meet your special needs in a highly>modular 
fashion.>>>By now this should have answered your question 
(but you probably have>others!) ->look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html>) 
and>browse from there - also look at the>http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main>Wiki 
site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and>trying to 
explain>what they find to others...>>> >>> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>>Hi,>>I 
am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks 
for>my>company.>Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am 
not entiely sure because the>>pages in my>web application 
are not static. All of them are dynamically generated>on the>fly. 
The backend services>although still under design may be developed using 
JINI, object>databases,>LDAP etc>>The main 
reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its 
multichanel>capabilities.>We may want to target>the pages 
to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc 
My>original>(very simplistic) design was>to simply have 
servlets generate XML and then transform these using>XSLT.>This is 
where I thought cocoon would help.>>My question is - is cocoon 
good for static pages or can it be used for>>highly interactive 
dynamic 
pages?>>>Regards>Tellis>>>>>>>>>>_>Stay 
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Re: newbie question

[Derek Hohls]

Tellis
 
OK; this is getting into deeper waters  again, it is 
certainly possible (and is often discussed on this mailing
list) but some of the explanations of 'how" are probably
best left until you understand a little of why/how Cocoon
operates.  A lot will also depend on which services and
servlets you are working with and how *they* are configured
and what their capabilities/limitations are.
 
Derek>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 01:25:39 
>>>Thanks for the excellent information. One of my main concern was 
how to integrate cocoon with existing services and servlets without 
necessarily making them part of cocoon ...>From: "Derek Hohls" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: Re: newbie 
question>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:36:06 
+0200>>Tellis>>You ask "is cocoon good for static 
pages or can it be used for>highly interactive dynamic 
pages?">>Very short version answer is:>Yes, Cocoon can be 
used for both.>>Slightly longer:>Cocoon essentially *is* a 
servlet, designed to enable the creation of>XML (from static files, 
databases, web services or other sources) and>provide an efficient and 
effective framework for manipluating that XML>into a variety of output 
formats (including all the ones you list).>Cocoon>works whether 
you have a single file or a whole multitude with any>combination of 
static or dynamic.>>Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page 
at:>http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)>Designed 
for performance and scalability around pipelined 
SAX>processing,>  Cocoon offers a flexible environment based 
on a separation of concerns>>between content, logic, and style. 
Cocoon's centralized configuration>system>helps you to create, 
deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server>applications.>Cocoon 
interacts with most data sources, including filesystems, 
RDBMS,>>LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data 
sources.>It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different 
devices>like>HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a 
few.>You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a 
powerful,>commandline interface.>The deliberate design of its 
abstract environment gives you the freedom>>to extend its 
functionality to meet your special needs in a highly>modular 
fashion.>>>By now this should have answered your question 
(but you probably have>others!) ->look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html>) 
and>browse from there - also look at the>http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main>Wiki 
site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and>trying to 
explain>what they find to others...>>> >>> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>>Hi,>>I 
am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks 
for>my>company.>Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am 
not entiely sure because the>>pages in my>web application 
are not static. All of them are dynamically generated>on the>fly. 
The backend services>although still under design may be developed using 
JINI, object>databases,>LDAP etc>>The main 
reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its 
multichanel>capabilities.>We may want to target>the pages 
to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc 
My>original>(very simplistic) design was>to simply have 
servlets generate XML and then transform these using>XSLT.>This is 
where I thought cocoon would help.>>My question is - is cocoon 
good for static pages or can it be used for>>highly interactive 
dynamic 
pages?>>>Regards>Tellis>>>>>>>>>>_>Stay 
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Re: newbie question

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

hy, Tellis

im just working on a project, where:

1.) an existing webapp can't be merged with the cocoon-webapp
due to incompatible jar versions

2.) the existing webapp may not be modified, except the creation
of an additional XML-layer for read/write access.

I am working on howto get a cocoon-based presentation layer in the 
middle between the legacyapp and the browser frontend. Things start
working and i make quick progress at the moment. If you are
interested, i can tell more about this...

regards, hussayn

Tellis George wrote:
Thanks for the excellent information. One of my main concern was how to 
integrate cocoon with existing services and servlets without necessarily 
making them part of cocoon ...



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Thanks for the excellent information. One of my main concern was how to 
integrate cocoon with existing services and servlets without necessarily 
making them part of cocoon ...

From: "Derek Hohls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:36:06 +0200

Tellis

You ask "is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for
highly interactive dynamic pages?"

Very short version answer is:
Yes, Cocoon can be used for both.

Slightly longer:
Cocoon essentially *is* a servlet, designed to enable the creation of
XML (from static files, databases, web services or other sources) and
provide an efficient and effective framework for manipluating that XML
into a variety of output formats (including all the ones you list).
Cocoon
works whether you have a single file or a whole multitude with any
combination of static or dynamic.

Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page at:
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)
Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX
processing,
 Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on a separation of concerns

between content, logic, and style. Cocoon's centralized configuration
system
helps you to create, deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server
applications.
Cocoon interacts with most data sources, including filesystems, RDBMS,

LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data sources.
It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different devices
like
HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a few.
You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a powerful,
commandline interface.
The deliberate design of its abstract environment gives you the freedom

to extend its functionality to meet your special needs in a highly
modular fashion.


By now this should have answered your question (but you probably have
others!) -
look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html
) and
browse from there - also look at the
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main
Wiki site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and
trying to explain
what they find to others...


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>
Hi,

I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for
my
company.
Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the

pages in my
web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated
on the
fly. The backend services
although still under design may be developed using JINI, object
databases,
LDAP etc

The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel
capabilities.
We may want to target
the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My
original
(very simplistic) design was
to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using
XSLT.
This is where I thought cocoon would help.

My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for

highly interactive dynamic pages?


Regards
Tellis









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Re: newbie question

[Niclas Hedhman]

On Monday 27 January 2003 18:16, Tellis George wrote:
> My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for
> highly interactive dynamic pages?

Consensus here is; WEYWY
What Ever You Want You Get

or so it seems...

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Re: newbie question

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

from my experience i can say, cocoon can be used for
highly dynamic pages.
You have to individually check on performance issues,
but in general until today i have been quite satisfied with
what i can gain from using it.
I must admit, that i currently "only" use the basics. never tried
the esql thing, and more sophisticated onse, but so far im
very shure, it can be used especially in a multi channel
environment.

hussayn


Tellis George wrote:

Hi,

I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for 
my company.
Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the 
pages in my
web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated on 
the fly. The backend services
although still under design may be developed using JINI, object 
databases, LDAP etc

The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel 
capabilities. We may want to target
the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My 
original (very simplistic) design was
to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using 
XSLT. This is where I thought cocoon would help.

My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for 
highly interactive dynamic pages?


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Re: newbie question

[Derek Hohls]

Tellis
 
You ask "is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for 
highly interactive dynamic pages?"
 
Very short version answer is:
Yes, Cocoon can be used for both.
 
Slightly longer:
Cocoon essentially *is* a servlet, designed to enable the creation of
XML (from static files, databases, web services or other sources) and
provide an efficient and effective framework for manipluating that XML
into a variety of output formats (including all the ones you list). 
Cocoon
works whether you have a single file or a whole multitude with any 
combination of static or dynamic.
 
Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page at:
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)
Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX
processing,
 Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on a separation of concerns

between content, logic, and style. Cocoon's centralized configuration
system
helps you to create, deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server
applications. 
Cocoon interacts with most data sources, including filesystems, RDBMS,

LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data sources. 
It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different devices
like 
HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a few. 
You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a powerful,
commandline interface. 
The deliberate design of its abstract environment gives you the freedom

to extend its functionality to meet your special needs in a highly
modular fashion. 


By now this should have answered your question (but you probably have
others!) -
look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html
) and 
browse from there - also look at the
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main
Wiki site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and
trying to explain
what they find to others...


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>
Hi,

I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for
my 
company.
Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the

pages in my
web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated
on the 
fly. The backend services
although still under design may be developed using JINI, object
databases, 
LDAP etc

The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel
capabilities. 
We may want to target
the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My
original 
(very simplistic) design was
to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using
XSLT. 
This is where I thought cocoon would help.

My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for

highly interactive dynamic pages?


Regards
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RE: newbie question

[Luca Morandini]

Tellis,

Cocoon is aimed at generating dynamic content, first and foremost.

Anyway, you can, as the Cocoon-based Forrest does, generate static content out of XMLs 
in "batch" mode and then drop them in a
web-serves, to improve performance.

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>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for my
> company.
> Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the
> pages in my
> web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated on the
> fly. The backend services
> although still under design may be developed using JINI, object databases,
> LDAP etc
>
> The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel capabilities.
> We may want to target
> the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My original
> (very simplistic) design was
> to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using XSLT.
> This is where I thought cocoon would help.
>
> My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for
> highly interactive dynamic pages?
>
>
> Regards
> Tellis
>
>
>
>
>
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newbie question

[Tellis George]

Hi,

I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for my 
company.
Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the 
pages in my
web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated on the 
fly. The backend services
although still under design may be developed using JINI, object databases, 
LDAP etc

The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel capabilities. 
We may want to target
the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My original 
(very simplistic) design was
to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using XSLT. 
This is where I thought cocoon would help.

My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for 
highly interactive dynamic pages?


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Newbie Question - Sunshine sample problem

[Gal Nitzan]

Hi,

When I tried to login (guest,guest) to the sunspotdemo at:
http://localhost:8080/cocoon/sunspotdemo-portal

I get the following: 

---
Cocoon 2 - Internal server error
---

type fatal
message null
description java.lang.NullPointerException
sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
source Cocoon servlet

stack-trace
java.lang.NullPointerException 
at
org.apache.cocoon.sunshine.xml.XMLUtil.getNodesFromPath(XMLUtil.java:869)
at
org.apache.cocoon.sunshine.xml.XMLUtil.getNodesFromPath(XMLUtil.java:871)
at
org.apache.cocoon.sunshine.xml.XMLUtil.getNodesFromPath(XMLUtil.java:871)
at
org.apache.cocoon.sunshine.xml.XMLUtil.getNodeListFromPath(XMLUtil.java:836)
at
org.apache.cocoon.sunshine.context.SimpleSessionContext.getXML(SimpleSessionContext.java:173)
at
org.apache.cocoon.sunshine.sunrise.SunRise.isAuthenticated(SunRise.java:691)
at
org.apache.cocoon.sunshine.sunrise.SunRise.checkAuthentication(SunRise.java:766)
at
org.apache.cocoon.sunshine.sunrise.acting.AuthAction.act(AuthAction.java:122)
at
org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.matchN4004A5(/usr/local/jakarta-tomcat-5.0.0/work/Standalone/localhost/cocoon/cocoon-files/org/apache/cocoon/www/sitemap_xmap.java:5363)
at
org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.process(/usr/local/jakarta-tomcat-5.0.0/work/Standalone/localhost/cocoon/cocoon-files/org/apache/cocoon/www/sitemap_xmap.java:3330)
at
org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.process(/usr/local/jakarta-tomcat-5.0.0/work/Standalone/localhost/cocoon/cocoon-files/org/apache/cocoon/www/sitemap_xmap.java:3100)
at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Handler.process(Handler.java:224)
at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Manager.invoke(Manager.java:179)
at
org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.SitemapManager.process(SitemapManager.java:154)
at org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon.process(Cocoon.java:575)
at
org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet.service(CocoonServlet.java:999)



Machine P4 - 2GHZ

My Environment (extracted from cocoon status):
classpath
* /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_01/lib/tools.jar
* /usr/local/jakarta-tomcat-5.0.0/bin/bootstrap.jar

memory
total 47.5 MB ( 49811456 )
free 1558.64 KB ( 1596048 )

jre
version 1.4.1_01
java-vendor Sun Microsystems Inc.

operating-system
name Linux
architecture i386
version 2.4.18-18.8.0

Store-Janitor
- org.apache.cocoon.components.store.MRUMemoryStore (hash = 0xe0e515)

Any Help would be appreciated,

TIA,

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Newbie question :Eqsl does not work !!!

[Jessica Niewint]

I have problems to get an output of my db-data.
The database-pool(connection to my db) works fine, I had tested it with the 
esql.xsp  file which came with  the cocoon application ( I changed the 
original pool with my db-pool and it read the data correctly from my 
database (mysql)).

In the basic.xml file I tested also a  expression which works fine.
I got also problems to use a logicsheet ... may be this could be a hint ?

Sorry for this long posting, but I am new to xml/cocoon and thought I could 
be helpful to see the whole structure of this test-application.
Thank you in advance !!!

my directory structure:

directory structure:
/cocoon
   /test
basic.xsl
sitemap.xmap
/xsp
  basic.xml


my basic.xsl file:


http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"; version="1.0">


  
   

   
   
   
   

   
   
   
  


my basic.xml file:


http://apache.org/xsp"; 
xmlns:esql="http://apache.org/cocoon/SQL/v2";>
 
 Select from Database
 Here is the result:
 
 xmldb
 
 select * from document where 
DocID=1
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




my sitemap.xmap:




http://apache.org/cocoon/sitemap/1.0";>

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: newbie question: aggregation?

[Luca Morandini]

Zach,

you can use  as much as you like in Cocoon. I guess the "template not 
found" error is just a matter of mismacthed
directories or something like this.

Are those included stylesheets in the same directory of main.xsl ?

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> Subject: newbie question: aggregation?
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>
> Hello -
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> I am working on Cocoon 2.0.2 and Tomcat 4.0.4.
>
> I have an existing xml -> xsl stylesheet -> html module set up that
> publishes reports. I would like to use cocoon to do this transformation for
> me. Thus I would like to change my existing xsl stylesheet as minimally as
> possible.
>
> My situation is this: my xml data is passed to one main xsl stylesheet
> (main.xsl) which calls a few other xsl styleshees (via:  />.
>
> Currently, main.xsl includes: header.xsl, body.xsl, footer.xsl.
>
> main.xsl like so:
> 
> 
> 
>
> and these three xsl templates are called later: (ie:  name="header" />)
>
> How would this be mimicked in Cocoon? Would I need to use 
> to aggregate the html output from the included stylesheets? How exactly is
> this done? And what are the ?
>
> Or is aggregation totally not the way to go? Because currently when I use my
> existing xsl template (with the include and call-template commands) I get an
> error saying the template is not found. Is this doable with my existing xsl
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> Any help would be appreciated.
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Hello -

I am working on Cocoon 2.0.2 and Tomcat 4.0.4.

I have an existing xml -> xsl stylesheet -> html module set up that
publishes reports. I would like to use cocoon to do this transformation for 
me. Thus I would like to change my existing xsl stylesheet as minimally as 
possible.

My situation is this: my xml data is passed to one main xsl stylesheet
(main.xsl) which calls a few other xsl styleshees (via: .

Currently, main.xsl includes: header.xsl, body.xsl, footer.xsl.

main.xsl like so:




and these three xsl templates are called later: (ie: )

How would this be mimicked in Cocoon? Would I need to use  
to aggregate the html output from the included stylesheets? How exactly is 
this done? And what are the ?

Or is aggregation totally not the way to go? Because currently when I use my 
existing xsl template (with the include and call-template commands) I get an 
error saying the template is not found. Is this doable with my existing xsl 
templates?

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Re: A newbie question

[Diana Shannon]

On Monday, June 24, 2002, at 03:09  AM, Jack Dong wrote:

> by the way, what mean like "{1}.rdf ,{2}.rdf"?

Please take a moment to read:
   http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/matchers/matchers.html
   http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/concepts/matchers_selectors.html

If you are still confused, report back to this list about what you find 
unclear about the above docs. (Please note that matchers.html was edited 
earlier this month.)

Thanks.

-- Diana

P.S. TODO: FAQ similar to above. Simple and Nested sitemap parameter 
Snippet docs. Perhaps simple concepts in Snippet docs are more 
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RE: A newbie question

[TREGAN Fabien]

[please, use plain text in your posts]

Thought I do not have 2.1 here, I think that the problem is that every
directory in 'samples' is auto-mounted by the sitemap (this mean that every
request that start with samples/xxx are handled by the sitemap in
samples/xxx.)

Read the doc (or comments in the sitemap) to find how to (auto)mount other
directory. (hint : check the sitemap in /mount/)

fabien.


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hi,
I am a newbie to use cocoon,and get a question.
I use cocoon 2.1 and tomcat 4.0.4 beta3.
when i type
http://localhost:8080/cocoon, it's right.
but when i copy the "hello world" sample 
from "$CATALINA_HOME/webapps/cocoon/sample/hello-world"
to"$CATALINA_HOME/webapps/cocoon/hello-world" 
and type
http://localhost:8080/cocoon/hello-world/hello.html
it response a error page,that note"resource not found", why and what
relation have between main sitemap and substitute sitemap?


by the way, what mean like "{1}.rdf ,{2}.rdf"?

thinks advance.

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A newbie question

[Jack Dong]

hi,
I am a newbie to use cocoon,and get a question.
I use cocoon 2.1 and tomcat 4.0.4 beta3.
when i type
http://localhost:8080/cocoon, it's 
right.
but when i copy the "hello world" sample 
from "$CATALINA_HOME/webapps/cocoon/sample/hello-world" 
to"$CATALINA_HOME/webapps/cocoon/hello-world" 
and type
http://localhost:8080/cocoon/hello-world/hello.html
it response a error page,that note"resource not found", why 
and what relation have between main sitemap and substitute sitemap?
 
 
by the way, what mean like "{1}.rdf ,{2}.rdf"?
 
thinks advance.
 
 

RE: renewed Newbie Question

[Graaf, Edgar de (fin)]

Hi,

Well then I should make another list ;-)

A. Backup your cocoon + tomcat (copy it in a zip or something)
B. Shutdown tomcat
C. Delete ROOT (in webapps of tomcat)
D. rename cocoon to ROOT
E. Open your sitemap and mount the directory of the user (look in the
example sitemap how to do that)
F. Create a sitemap for that subdirectory.
G. Start tomcat

Instead of E & F you can also do (in the sitemap.xmap of cocoon)

   
   
   


the wildcard will fill the {1}. When you call
http://localhost/~user/hello-page.xml

{1} will contain ~user/hello-page.xml

Cocoon will for example load: C:\tomcat4\webapps\ROOT\~user\hello-page.xml
If you add a tranformation each xml matching the wildcard will be
transformed...

ps. to change the port goto server.xml of tomcat and search for
org.apache.catalina.connector.http.HttpConnector. Change port 8080 to 80.

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Onderwerp: Re: renewed Newbie Question


Am Montag, 27. Mai 2002 14:43 schrieb Graaf, Edgar de (fin):
> If I understand you correctly you want users to be able to place xml in
> cocoon that is processed by cocoon.
> Well:
> 1. Create a subdirectory in ../cocoon/
> 2. Mount that directory (in the sitemap.xmap of /cocoon/)
> 3. In that subdirectory you place a sitemap.xmap
> 4. Per user make a directory and give them access.
> 5. If you want them to be able to run xsp you add the following to the
> sitemap:
> 
>   
>   
>   
> 
>
Well at first thank you for that suggestion. But i think it does not exactly

match what i wan't to do using cocoon. See the following example:

http://localhost:8080/cocoon/samples/hello/hello-page.xml

gives me the simplest xml-to html transform possible. That's taken from the 
live samples section of cocoon, and is working pretty well.
As far as i understand the whole thing, this works because tomcat running at

localhost:8080 knows to run cocoon on this url as /cocoon/ is in the path
and 
it's an xml-document. What I wan't to have working is the same thing with
the 
following url:

http://localhost:8080/~user/cocoon/samples/hello/hello-page.xml

or even better

http://localhost/~user/hello-page.xml

that is really all that would be satisfying (at the moment of course)

Thanks for any help

jneines

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On Monday 27 May 2002 03:41 pm, you wrote:



> Well at first thank you for that suggestion. But i think it does not
> exactly match what i wan't to do using cocoon. See the following
> example:
>
> http://localhost:8080/cocoon/samples/hello/hello-page.xml

Umm ... could you put in a hostname that points to your site.
'localhost' is different for everybody.

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Am Montag, 27. Mai 2002 14:43 schrieb Graaf, Edgar de (fin):
> If I understand you correctly you want users to be able to place xml in
> cocoon that is processed by cocoon.
> Well:
> 1. Create a subdirectory in ../cocoon/
> 2. Mount that directory (in the sitemap.xmap of /cocoon/)
> 3. In that subdirectory you place a sitemap.xmap
> 4. Per user make a directory and give them access.
> 5. If you want them to be able to run xsp you add the following to the
> sitemap:
> 
>   
>   
>   
> 
>
Well at first thank you for that suggestion. But i think it does not exactly 
match what i wan't to do using cocoon. See the following example:

http://localhost:8080/cocoon/samples/hello/hello-page.xml

gives me the simplest xml-to html transform possible. That's taken from the 
live samples section of cocoon, and is working pretty well.
As far as i understand the whole thing, this works because tomcat running at 
localhost:8080 knows to run cocoon on this url as /cocoon/ is in the path and 
it's an xml-document. What I wan't to have working is the same thing with the 
following url:

http://localhost:8080/~user/cocoon/samples/hello/hello-page.xml

or even better

http://localhost/~user/hello-page.xml

that is really all that would be satisfying (at the moment of course)

Thanks for any help

jneines

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Fachbereich Physik, Universität Osnabrück
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RE: renewed Newbie Question

[Graaf, Edgar de (fin)]

If I understand you correctly you want users to be able to place xml in
cocoon that is processed by cocoon.
Well:
1. Create a subdirectory in ../cocoon/
2. Mount that directory (in the sitemap.xmap of /cocoon/)
3. In that subdirectory you place a sitemap.xmap
4. Per user make a directory and give them access.
5. If you want them to be able to run xsp you add the following to the
sitemap:

  
  
  


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Hi cocooners,

i just asked that question a couple of days before, but did not receive any 
response to it. And i suppose it's simple for you gurus. So i'm about to try

again.

I have installed the jakarta-tomcat and cocoon packages shipped with the 
Suse-8.0 LinuX-Distribution. The examples work fine. 

The question is: what changes do i have to make to apache/tomcat/cocoon 
configuration to make cocoon processing work in user homepages?

Any sugestions? 

Sincerly
jneines


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RE: renewed Newbie Question

[TREGAN Fabien]

>But what do i have to do, if i would 
like to dynamical transform XML to XHTML in a userhompage?
>Say be trying to access http://myserver/~user/hello-page.xml?

All you have to do is tell tomcat (or whatever servlet container you use)
send (or redirect), http://myserver/~* to your cocoon app. Though this is
not a Cocoon related question, it is in the FAQ (go to
http://localhost:8080/cocoon, click on "documentation", then "FAQ" and read
them.

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>
>
>Hi cocooners,
>
>i just asked that question a couple of days before, but did 
>not receive any 
>response to it. And i suppose it's simple for you gurus. So 
>i'm about to try 
>again.
>
>I have installed the jakarta-tomcat and cocoon packages 
>shipped with the 
>Suse-8.0 LinuX-Distribution. The examples work fine. 
>
>The question is: what changes do i have to make to 
>apache/tomcat/cocoon 
>configuration to make cocoon processing work in user homepages?
>
>Any sugestions? 
>
>   Sincerly
>   jneines
>
>
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[Jens Nie]

Hi cocooners,

i just asked that question a couple of days before, but did not receive any 
response to it. And i suppose it's simple for you gurus. So i'm about to try 
again.

I have installed the jakarta-tomcat and cocoon packages shipped with the 
Suse-8.0 LinuX-Distribution. The examples work fine. 

The question is: what changes do i have to make to apache/tomcat/cocoon 
configuration to make cocoon processing work in user homepages?

Any sugestions? 

Sincerly
jneines


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Re: Newbie Question

[Diana Shannon]

Sorin:

> I wrote an example XML File and the appropriate XML schema.
> How to validate the XML File? (I guess I have to validate it because
> there are rules that you can't fill in this or that in a certain 
> element...

One way to learn how to do this is to check out Elliotte Rusty Harold's 
draft version of "Processing XML with Java", specifically this chapter:
   http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/xmljava/chapters/ch07.html

It walks you through how to configure and use your own XMLReader objects 
to validate your files.

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[Graaf, Edgar de (fin)]

You could do it with a parser like Xerces. (xml.apache.org)

public void parseXml(String xml) throws SAXException, IOException{
 try {
XMLReader parser = XMLReaderFactory.createXMLReader(
"org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser");
parser.setContentHandler(this.xmlConsumer);
parser.setErrorHandler(this);
try {
//if (validate && parser instanceof
XMLReader)
if ( parser instanceof XMLReader ){

((XMLReader)parser).setFeature( "http://xml.org/sax/features/validation";,
true

((XMLReader)parser).setFeature( "http://xml.org/sax/features/namespaces";,
true

((XMLReader)parser).setFeature("http://apache.org/xml/features/validation/sc
hema",true );

((XMLReader)parser).setFeature(
"http://apache.org/xml/features/nonvalidating/load-external-dtd";,

true );

((XMLReader)parser).setFeature(
"http://apache.org/xml/features/validation/schema-full-checking";,

true );

}
} catch (Exception ex) {
}
parser.parse(new InputSource( new StringReader(xml))
);
} catch (org.xml.sax.SAXParseException spe) {
spe.printStackTrace(System.err);
  }

}

You have to do the right import etc..

regards,

Edgar
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Hello toghether

I'm a XML newbie and a Cocoon newbie, too...

I wrote an example XML File and the appropriate XML schema.
How to validate the XML File? (I guess I have to validate it because
there are rules that you can't fill in this or that in a certain element...

every advice would be helpful...

thanks in advance mas


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RE: Newbie Question

[Luca Morandini]

Sorin,

why not use Xerces instead ?

Though I used it only for DTD validation, it has schema validation too...

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> Arjé Cahn wrote:
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> I'm not using Windows... is there an xml-spy for Unix?
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Re: Newbie Question

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Arjé Cahn wrote:

>Have you tried XMLSpy? (www.altova.com)
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Have you tried XMLSpy? (www.altova.com)

Arje

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Hello toghether

I'm a XML newbie and a Cocoon newbie, too...

I wrote an example XML File and the appropriate XML schema.
How to validate the XML File? (I guess I have to validate it because
there are rules that you can't fill in this or that in a certain element...

every advice would be helpful...

thanks in advance mas


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Newbie Question

[Sorin Marti]

Hello toghether

I'm a XML newbie and a Cocoon newbie, too...

I wrote an example XML File and the appropriate XML schema.
How to validate the XML File? (I guess I have to validate it because
there are rules that you can't fill in this or that in a certain element...

every advice would be helpful...

thanks in advance mas


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threading (newbie question)

Folks,

I'd like to access multiple sources of information simultaneously.

I'm new to Cocoon.  I see two possibilities:

(1) Use map:aggregate to access multiple map:part elements.  This is delightfully granular but may or may not meet the goal of simultaneous access.  Can threads be used with an individual map:part?

(2) Define a custom "super" generator that itself spawns multiple threads and collates the incoming data.  This meets the simulataneous criterion but doesn't seem very granular.  I think I can see how to specify "source A" versus "source B" to the superGenerator (via actions?) but how can I use map:aggregate?

Comments? Advice? Alternative approaches?

thanks,
Mike
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Re: Newbie question about patterns in sitemap.xmap

[Tony Collen]

George Agnelli wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I couldn't find an answer to this question in the archives or in the Cocoon
>docs so apologies if it's a dumb one.
>
>I'm simply trying to match a filename pattern in the sitemap.xmap for
>testing purposes. The file names could be like this Item1.html, Item2.html
>and so on, or item1.html, item2.html and so on. In grep I can match these
>patterns using [Ii]tem[0-9*].html but when I use this in the sitemap like
>this  it can't find the files.
>Is it possible to use these kind of expressions or do I need to try
>something else?
>
>Thanks
>
>George
>

Try:



You need to tell Cocoon that you're using a Regular Expression instead 
of a "normal" pattern.

Hope this helps..

Tony


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Newbie question about patterns in sitemap.xmap

[George Agnelli]

Hi,

I couldn't find an answer to this question in the archives or in the Cocoon
docs so apologies if it's a dumb one.

I'm simply trying to match a filename pattern in the sitemap.xmap for
testing purposes. The file names could be like this Item1.html, Item2.html
and so on, or item1.html, item2.html and so on. In grep I can match these
patterns using [Ii]tem[0-9*].html but when I use this in the sitemap like
this  it can't find the files.
Is it possible to use these kind of expressions or do I need to try
something else?

Thanks

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Re: Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[giacomo]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Ugo Cei wrote:

> giacomo wrote:
>
>
> >   
> >   
>
> Shouldn't it be "store-janitor" instead? This is how DEBUG messages are
> tagged in my logs (using C2.0.1).

Oh, yes, sorry, your version is the correct one.

Giacomo


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Re: Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[Ugo Cei]

giacomo wrote:


>   
>   

Shouldn't it be "store-janitor" instead? This is how DEBUG messages are 
tagged in my logs (using C2.0.1).

Ugo

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Re: Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[Stephen Clarke]

> Stephen Clarke wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "giacomo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Cocoon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Newbie question::Redundant logging...
> >
> > >> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Stephen Clarke wrote:
> > > > I have noticed that Cocoon writes the following four lines in my log
> > file
> > > > every ten seconds. This is preventing my hard drive from spinning
down
> > and
> > > > unnecessarily busying the drive. Is there any way to stop it? My
> > development
> >
> > > > server is rarely visited, but I like to leave it running on minimum
> >
> > power
> >
> > > > just in case.
> > > >
> > > > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > > > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().totalMemory()=10067968
> > > > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > > > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getHeapsize()=6000
> > > > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > > > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().freeMemory()=935640
> > > > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > > > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getFreememory()=100
> > >
>
> > This is how the categories node of my logkit.xconf looks. It hasn't
changed
> > since I installed Cocoon2.0.
>
>
> Logging categories changed a lot between 2.0 and 2.0.1. Giacomo described
> the procedure for 2.0.1.
>
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> >   
> >   
>^
>Change ths to ERROR
>
> >  
> >  
> >   
> >
> >   
> >  
> >  
> >   
> > 
> >   
> >
> > Where should I put that additional line? I would be grateful for any
> > further help. Thanks again.
>
Hi Martin,
Thanks. That worked well. {:-)
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RE: Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[Gerhard Froehlich]

Hi,
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq.html#faq-26


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>-Original Message-
>From: Stephen Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:59 AM
>To: Cocoon
>Subject: Newbie question::Redundant logging...
>
>
>Hello,
>I have noticed that Cocoon writes the following four lines in my log file
>every ten seconds. This is preventing my hard drive from spinning down and
>unnecessarily busying the drive. Is there any way to stop it? My development
>server is rarely visited, but I like to leave it running on minimum power
>just in case.
>
>DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
>Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().totalMemory()=10067968
>DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
>Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getHeapsize()=6000
>DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
>Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().freeMemory()=935640
>DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
>Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getFreememory()=100
>
>Grateful for any pointers on how to stop this logging behavior, or whatever
>it is.
>--
>Best,
>Stephen Clarke
>
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Re: Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[Martin Holz]

Hi,

Stephen Clarke wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "giacomo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Cocoon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Newbie question::Redundant logging...
>
> >> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Stephen Clarke wrote:
> > > I have noticed that Cocoon writes the following four lines in my log
> file
> > > every ten seconds. This is preventing my hard drive from spinning down
> and
> > > unnecessarily busying the drive. Is there any way to stop it? My
> development
>
> > > server is rarely visited, but I like to leave it running on minimum
>
> power
>
> > > just in case.
> > >
> > > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().totalMemory()=10067968
> > > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getHeapsize()=6000
> > > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().freeMemory()=935640
> > > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getFreememory()=100
> >

> This is how the categories node of my logkit.xconf looks. It hasn't changed
> since I installed Cocoon2.0.


Logging categories changed a lot between 2.0 and 2.0.1. Giacomo described 
the procedure for 2.0.1.

>   
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   
>   
   ^
   Change ths to ERROR

>  
>  
>   
>
>   
>  
>  
>   
> 
>   
>
> Where should I put that additional line? I would be grateful for any
> further help. Thanks again.


Martin



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Re: Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[Stephen Clarke]

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Subject: Re: Newbie question::Redundant logging...


> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Stephen Clarke wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I have noticed that Cocoon writes the following four lines in my log
file
> > every ten seconds. This is preventing my hard drive from spinning down
and
> > unnecessarily busying the drive. Is there any way to stop it? My
development
> > server is rarely visited, but I like to leave it running on minimum
power
> > just in case.
> >
> > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().totalMemory()=10067968
> > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getHeapsize()=6000
> > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().freeMemory()=935640
> > DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> > Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getFreememory()=100
>
> Change the logkit.xconf file to:
>
>   ...
>   
> 
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
>
>
>...
>
> to get rid of those messages.
>
Hi,
Thanks to both Giacomo and Luca for taking the trouble to reply. I've made
all kinds of changes. Unfortunately, none seemed to work. My logkit.xconf
does not contain a  to FATAL-ERROR. So I tried changing it back again, but none of
these worked.

This is how the categories node of my logkit.xconf looks. It hasn't changed
since I installed Cocoon2.0.

  

  


  
  
 
 
  

  
 
 
  

  

Where should I put that additional line? I would be grateful for any further
help. Thanks again.
--
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Re: Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[giacomo]

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Stephen Clarke wrote:

> Hello,
> I have noticed that Cocoon writes the following four lines in my log file
> every ten seconds. This is preventing my hard drive from spinning down and
> unnecessarily busying the drive. Is there any way to stop it? My development
> server is rarely visited, but I like to leave it running on minimum power
> just in case.
>
> DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().totalMemory()=10067968
> DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getHeapsize()=6000
> DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().freeMemory()=935640
> DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getFreememory()=100

Change the logkit.xconf file to:

  ...
  

  
  

  
  

   
   ...

to get rid of those messages.

Giacomo

>
> Grateful for any pointers on how to stop this logging behavior, or whatever
> it is.
> --
> Best,
> Stephen Clarke
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RE: Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[Luca Morandini]

Stephen,

you could change the log level from DEBUG to ERROR by editing logkit.xconf.
Check previuos postings on how to do this.

Mind, you will loose valuable logging information during development.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:59 AM
> To: Cocoon
> Subject: Newbie question::Redundant logging...
>
>
> Hello,
> I have noticed that Cocoon writes the following four lines in my log file
> every ten seconds. This is preventing my hard drive from spinning down and
> unnecessarily busying the drive. Is there any way to stop it? My
> development
> server is rarely visited, but I like to leave it running on minimum power
> just in case.
>
> DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().totalMemory()=10067968
> DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getHeapsize()=6000
> DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().freeMemory()=935640
> DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getFreememory()=100
>
> Grateful for any pointers on how to stop this logging behavior,
> or whatever
> it is.
> --
> Best,
> Stephen Clarke
>
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Newbie question::Redundant logging...

[Stephen Clarke]

Hello,
I have noticed that Cocoon writes the following four lines in my log file
every ten seconds. This is preventing my hard drive from spinning down and
unnecessarily busying the drive. Is there any way to stop it? My development
server is rarely visited, but I like to leave it running on minimum power
just in case.

DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().totalMemory()=10067968
DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getHeapsize()=6000
DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getJVM().freeMemory()=935640
DEBUG   (2002-02-10) 06:37.10:682   [root.sto] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/StoreJanitorImpl: getFreememory()=100

Grateful for any pointers on how to stop this logging behavior, or whatever
it is.
--
Best,
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Re: Using tag with Cocoon (newbie question)

[Bernhard Huber]

hi,

reading docs about Cocoon2.0 the xml-processing instruction were
abandoned, so
by design choice

 was replaced by the sitemap/pipeline/transform
definitions.
In Cocoon1 xml-stylesheet was by design the way to select the stylesheet 
processing, this is no longer true for Cocoon2.

One solution might be to use CVS, or any RevisionControlSystem
to allow several developers access their own stylesheets...

hope it helps..



Christopher A. Brooks wrote:

 >Bernard,
 >
 >>see http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq.html
 >>
 >>Bernard
 >>
 >
 >Right, so this is the correct web page for the Cocoon FAQs, but it doesn't
 >actually say anything about how I can get Cocoon to do transformations on
 >the embedded  tags instead of looking to the sitemap 
file.
 >Is there anyway to do this that you (or others!) know of?
 >
 >Cya,
 >
 >Chris
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 >>-Original Message-
 >>From: Christopher A. Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 >>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 3:39
 >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >>Subject: Using  tag with Cocoon (newbie question)
 >>
 >>
 >>Hi,
 >>
 >>I'm fairly green to working with Cocoon, but have scoured through some
 >>previous postings and tried to hunt through other resources on the 
net and
 >>have found no answer to this question (note: the mailing list refers to
 >>http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html at the bottom of every 
message, but
 >>the URL gets a 404 error).
 >>
 >>To cut to the chase, I would like to have my XML files transformed to 
HTML
 >>using the embedded  tag instead of defining the XSL 
file
 >>in the sitemap file.  Is there a way to do this?  If not, is there a 
quick
 >>way I can allow a number of different developers working in different
 >>directories to switch the stylesheets they are using without changing
 >>
 >things
 >
 >>in the sitemap file?
 >>
 >>Thanks, season greetings to all,
 >>
 >>Chris
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 >>
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Re: Using tag with Cocoon (newbie question)

[Christopher A. Brooks]

Bernard,

> see http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq.html
>
> Bernard

Right, so this is the correct web page for the Cocoon FAQs, but it doesn't
actually say anything about how I can get Cocoon to do transformations on
the embedded  tags instead of looking to the sitemap file.
Is there anyway to do this that you (or others!) know of?

Cya,

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>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 3:39
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Using  tag with Cocoon (newbie question)
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm fairly green to working with Cocoon, but have scoured through some
> previous postings and tried to hunt through other resources on the net and
> have found no answer to this question (note: the mailing list refers to
> http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html at the bottom of every message, but
> the URL gets a 404 error).
>
> To cut to the chase, I would like to have my XML files transformed to HTML
> using the embedded  tag instead of defining the XSL file
> in the sitemap file.  Is there a way to do this?  If not, is there a quick
> way I can allow a number of different developers working in different
> directories to switch the stylesheets they are using without changing
things
> in the sitemap file?
>
> Thanks, season greetings to all,
>
> Chris
> --
> Christopher A. Brooks
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>
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RE: Using tag with Cocoon (newbie question)

[Bernard D'Have]

see http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq.html

Bernard

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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 3:39
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Subject: Using  tag with Cocoon (newbie question)


Hi,

I'm fairly green to working with Cocoon, but have scoured through some
previous postings and tried to hunt through other resources on the net and
have found no answer to this question (note: the mailing list refers to
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html at the bottom of every message, but
the URL gets a 404 error).

To cut to the chase, I would like to have my XML files transformed to HTML
using the embedded  tag instead of defining the XSL file
in the sitemap file.  Is there a way to do this?  If not, is there a quick
way I can allow a number of different developers working in different
directories to switch the stylesheets they are using without changing things
in the sitemap file?

Thanks, season greetings to all,

Chris
--
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Graduate Student, U of S

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Using tag with Cocoon (newbie question)

[Christopher A. Brooks]

Hi,

I'm fairly green to working with Cocoon, but have scoured through some
previous postings and tried to hunt through other resources on the net and
have found no answer to this question (note: the mailing list refers to
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html at the bottom of every message, but
the URL gets a 404 error).

To cut to the chase, I would like to have my XML files transformed to HTML
using the embedded  tag instead of defining the XSL file
in the sitemap file.  Is there a way to do this?  If not, is there a quick
way I can allow a number of different developers working in different
directories to switch the stylesheets they are using without changing things
in the sitemap file?

Thanks, season greetings to all,

Chris
--
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Graduate Student, U of S

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Re: Java code being dumped to browser. (newbie question)

[Hubert NEOtyk Iwaniuk]

On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 01:50:24PM -0500, Matthew Crocker wrote:
> Jeremy Crosbie wrote:
> 
> >My guess is you need to specify you are using the LDAP transformer like so
> > . This requires that
> >you have defined this transformer in the first place, which is not done in
> >the default sitemap in the distribution. Add:
> >
> > >src="org.apache.cocoon.transformation.LDAPTransformer" />
> >
> >to the  element in the sitemap.
> >
> 
> I already put in the map:transformer entry and when I add 'type="ldap"' 
> to my transformer line in the pipe line I get :
> 
> ldap://localhost uid=matthew dc=crocker,dc=com base true 0 * 0 false 
> error objectClass
> 
> as output to the browser.  This looks like the ldap transformer is 
> parsing the eldapbasicsample.xml file and dumping it the screen without 
> actually doing any LDAP look.   I have slapd running in another window 
> and I do not see any connection attempts made to the ldap server.
> 
> The above output happens when I have the following pipeline
> 
>  
>
>

Try this:
 

this is my guessing.

>
>
>
>  
> 
> And I have the following in my transformer map
> 
>src="org.apache.cocoon.transformation.LDAPTransformer"/>
> 
> 
> 

HTH,
hubert.

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Re: Java code being dumped to browser. (newbie question)

[Matthew Crocker]

Jeremy Crosbie wrote:

>My guess is you need to specify you are using the LDAP transformer like so
> . This requires that
>you have defined this transformer in the first place, which is not done in
>the default sitemap in the distribution. Add:
>
>src="org.apache.cocoon.transformation.LDAPTransformer" />
>
>to the  element in the sitemap.
>

I already put in the map:transformer entry and when I add 'type="ldap"' 
to my transformer line in the pipe line I get :

ldap://localhost uid=matthew dc=crocker,dc=com base true 0 * 0 false 
error objectClass

as output to the browser.  This looks like the ldap transformer is 
parsing the eldapbasicsample.xml file and dumping it the screen without 
actually doing any LDAP look.   I have slapd running in another window 
and I do not see any connection attempts made to the ldap server.

The above output happens when I have the following pipeline

  





  

And I have the following in my transformer map

   





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RE: Java code being dumped to browser. (newbie question)

[Jeremy Crosbie]

My guess is you need to specify you are using the LDAP transformer like so
 . This requires that
you have defined this transformer in the first place, which is not done in
the default sitemap in the distribution. Add:



to the  element in the sitemap.

> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Crocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Java code being dumped to browser. (newbie question)
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
>   I'm setting up cocoon2 with tomcat, both are latest versions from the
> website. The examples from tomcat and cocoon2 work fine.  I'm also
> trying to setup ELDAP and I'm having some trouble.   I created a
> pipeline in sitemap.xmap and when I bring up the URL in the browser I
> see that the eldapbasiccample.xml is being transformed by the eldap.xsl
> logicsheet but then the resulting java code is dumped to the browser.  I
> need to know how to get cocooon2 to execute the code and the process the
> resulting XML -> HTML for display on the browser.
> 
> Here is my pipeline info,  I'm sure it is something I'm missing but I
> just can't figure it out with the docs in the distrbution.
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> I'm assuming I just need another transform entry to process the java but
> I don't know which one to put it.
> 
> Thanks for any help
> 
> -Matt
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Java code being dumped to browser. (newbie question)

[Matthew Crocker]

Hello all,
 
  I'm setting up cocoon2 with tomcat, both are latest versions from the 
website. The examples from tomcat and cocoon2 work fine.  I'm also 
trying to setup ELDAP and I'm having some trouble.   I created a 
pipeline in sitemap.xmap and when I bring up the URL in the browser I 
see that the eldapbasiccample.xml is being transformed by the eldap.xsl 
logicsheet but then the resulting java code is dumped to the browser.  I 
need to know how to get cocooon2 to execute the code and the process the 
resulting XML -> HTML for display on the browser.

Here is my pipeline info,  I'm sure it is something I'm missing but I 
just can't figure it out with the docs in the distrbution.

  





  


I'm assuming I just need another transform entry to process the java but 
I don't know which one to put it.

Thanks for any help

-Matt


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Re: newbie Question abt number of xsls

[Adam A R]

Hi Arun,

I havent found any standard XSL to convert to HTML/HDML/WML/CHTML! :-(
Just in case if you find them please forward them to me.  Thanks in
advance.

I personally think that a single XSL for sinlge ML should suffice. Though I
am not a very good XSL author, I managed to write XSLs to write forms in
HTML/HDML from single XML file. But, I dont have XSLs which cover the
complete list of tags in HTML/HDML/CHTML

I am attaching a sample xml, to-html.xsl and to-hdml.xsl file with this
email. The to-hdml.xsl is a live example of  bad xsl authoring. Because it
uses the  tag. But couldnt help it since I dont
have a HDMLFormatter and HTMLFormatter puts the DOCTYPE declaration at the
top!!  eeeks!!!

Hope the files help you. If you find anything incorrect/wrong(or just dont
like the template) please feel free to change the XSL. But, also give the
changes to me so that I will incorporate them  ;-)

Note:- The XSL can only convert only process the following elements from
HTML.
1. form,
2. input type(only one submit per form. and cannot use cancel/clear input
types)
3. select... / option
4. checkbox
5. anchor

I know, one requires much more ... but one can only write to the Lowest
Common Denominator(LCD) to the various formats, in which the data must be
presented. Find workarounds if possible Or dont support them!!

Cheers,

Adam



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From: "Arun.N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: newbie Question abt number of xsls


> Hi,
> Thankx Adam !!! for your reply.
>   I checked what you said .. sounds good.
> but all the examples i found with the cocoon 1.8.2  was using a
separate
> stylesheet.
>
> in the code snippet you have shown here, is the to-chtml.xsl and
to-html.xsl
> enough for all the pages. if i am going to support two MLs HTML and CHTML
>  is a single generic xsl for each ML sufficient??
>
> If so . building  that generic xsl depends on the XML tags i define in my
> application..  or is there any stylesheets which are freely available
so
> that i will follow the protocol defined for the XML tags decided by the
> provider of the xsl.
> I feel if there are any predefined xsl i would prefer and follow the tags
> defined by that ... because as i am not too good in writing xsls,
following
> the protocol will save lot of my development time.
>
> if there are any links for stylesheets to convert from XML to any ML in a
> generic way, please can you give me some links. It will be very helpful
for
> me
>
> Thankz in advance,
> regards,
> Arun.N
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adam A R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:48 AM
> Subject: Re: newbie Question abt number of xsls
>
>
> > Hi Arun,
> >
> > Yes. It is possible to use one .xsl for each ML
> >
> > If you are using Cocoon 1.8 then use the media="xxx" parameter in the
> > processing instruction to specify the useragent for the xsl.
> >
> > eg.
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ...
> > ...
> > ...
> >   
> >
> >
> > But for this to work, you should configure User-Agents(Browsers) in the
> > cocoon.properties file.
> >
> > part of my cocoon.properties looks like this.
> >
##
> > ##
> > # User Agents (Browsers) #
> > ##
> >
> > # NOTE: numbers indicate the search order. This is very important since
> > # some words may be found in more than one browser description. (MSIE is
> > # presented as "Mozilla/4.0 (Compatible; MSIE 4.01; ...")
> > #
> > # for example, the "explorer=MSIE" tag indicates that the XSL stylesheet
> > # associated to the media type "explorer" should be mapped to those
> browsers
> > # that have the string "MSIE" in their "user-Agent" HTTP header.
> >
> > browser.0 = up=UP.Browser/
> > browser.1 = explorer=MSIE
> > browser.2 = pocketexplorer=MSPIE
> > browser.3 = handweb=HandHTTP
> > browser.4 = avantgo=AvantGo
> > browser.5 = imode=DoCoMo
> > browser.6 = opera=Opera
> > browser.7 = lynx=Lynx
> > browser.8 = java=Java
> > browser.9 = wap=Nokia
> > browser.10 = wap=UP
> > browser.11 = wap=Wapalizer
> > browser.12 = mozilla5=Mozilla/5
> > browser.13 = mozilla5=Netscape6/
> > browser.14 = netscape=Mozilla
> >
##
> >
> >
> &

Re: newbie Question abt number of xsls

[Arun.N]

Hi,
Thankx Adam !!! for your reply.
  I checked what you said .. sounds good.
but all the examples i found with the cocoon 1.8.2  was using a separate
stylesheet.

in the code snippet you have shown here, is the to-chtml.xsl and to-html.xsl
enough for all the pages. if i am going to support two MLs HTML and CHTML
 is a single generic xsl for each ML sufficient??

If so . building  that generic xsl depends on the XML tags i define in my
application..  or is there any stylesheets which are freely available so
that i will follow the protocol defined for the XML tags decided by the
provider of the xsl.
I feel if there are any predefined xsl i would prefer and follow the tags
defined by that ... because as i am not too good in writing xsls, following
the protocol will save lot of my development time.

if there are any links for stylesheets to convert from XML to any ML in a
generic way, please can you give me some links. It will be very helpful for
me

Thankz in advance,
regards,
Arun.N


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From: "Adam A R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: newbie Question abt number of xsls


> Hi Arun,
>
> Yes. It is possible to use one .xsl for each ML
>
> If you are using Cocoon 1.8 then use the media="xxx" parameter in the
> processing instruction to specify the useragent for the xsl.
>
> eg.
>
> 
> 
> 
> ...
> ...
> ...
>   
>
>
> But for this to work, you should configure User-Agents(Browsers) in the
> cocoon.properties file.
>
> part of my cocoon.properties looks like this.
> ##
> ##
> # User Agents (Browsers) #
> ##
>
> # NOTE: numbers indicate the search order. This is very important since
> # some words may be found in more than one browser description. (MSIE is
> # presented as "Mozilla/4.0 (Compatible; MSIE 4.01; ...")
> #
> # for example, the "explorer=MSIE" tag indicates that the XSL stylesheet
> # associated to the media type "explorer" should be mapped to those
browsers
> # that have the string "MSIE" in their "user-Agent" HTTP header.
>
> browser.0 = up=UP.Browser/
> browser.1 = explorer=MSIE
> browser.2 = pocketexplorer=MSPIE
> browser.3 = handweb=HandHTTP
> browser.4 = avantgo=AvantGo
> browser.5 = imode=DoCoMo
> browser.6 = opera=Opera
> browser.7 = lynx=Lynx
> browser.8 = java=Java
> browser.9 = wap=Nokia
> browser.10 = wap=UP
> browser.11 = wap=Wapalizer
> browser.12 = mozilla5=Mozilla/5
> browser.13 = mozilla5=Netscape6/
> browser.14 = netscape=Mozilla
> ##
>
>
> I dont know much of C2. Though I have installed it... lately I am running
> short of time.
> Someone on the list might be able to explain it for C2.
>
> But, as far as I know you will have to use Matchers for using each
> stylesheet depending on the user-agent.
> Can anybody shed light on how to do this in C2??
>
>
> cheers
> Adam
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Arun.N
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:06 PM
> Subject: newbie Question abt number of xsls
>
>
> Hi,
> Is it possible to have only one xsl for each type ML ie one for
WAP
> one for and one for HTML generation and etc.
> And all the xml page should use the same stylesheet. according to the
> useragent it should pick one of the xsl in all the pages.
> I have a senario where there are 200 pages in the application. As far as
my
> understanding for each page we should write an xsl and one for each type o
f
> ML. Is there any generic approach ? because the application will have lots
> of pages if there is one to one.
> ie, as of now i have to support html wap and chtml ... that becomes 200
xmls
> + 600 xsl !!!
>
> Please suggest me what to do ??
> I also welcome someother sort of implementaion also.
> Thankx in advance,
> Arun.N
>
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Re: newbie Question abt number of xsls

[Adam A R]

Hi Arun,

Yes. It is possible to use one .xsl for each ML

If you are using Cocoon 1.8 then use the media="xxx" parameter in the
processing instruction to specify the useragent for the xsl.

eg.




...
...
...
  


But for this to work, you should configure User-Agents(Browsers) in the
cocoon.properties file.

part of my cocoon.properties looks like this.
##
##
# User Agents (Browsers) #
##

# NOTE: numbers indicate the search order. This is very important since
# some words may be found in more than one browser description. (MSIE is
# presented as "Mozilla/4.0 (Compatible; MSIE 4.01; ...")
#
# for example, the "explorer=MSIE" tag indicates that the XSL stylesheet
# associated to the media type "explorer" should be mapped to those browsers
# that have the string "MSIE" in their "user-Agent" HTTP header.

browser.0 = up=UP.Browser/
browser.1 = explorer=MSIE
browser.2 = pocketexplorer=MSPIE
browser.3 = handweb=HandHTTP
browser.4 = avantgo=AvantGo
browser.5 = imode=DoCoMo
browser.6 = opera=Opera
browser.7 = lynx=Lynx
browser.8 = java=Java
browser.9 = wap=Nokia
browser.10 = wap=UP
browser.11 = wap=Wapalizer
browser.12 = mozilla5=Mozilla/5
browser.13 = mozilla5=Netscape6/
browser.14 = netscape=Mozilla
##


I dont know much of C2. Though I have installed it... lately I am running
short of time.
Someone on the list might be able to explain it for C2.

But, as far as I know you will have to use Matchers for using each
stylesheet depending on the user-agent.
Can anybody shed light on how to do this in C2??


cheers
Adam


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From: Arun.N
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:06 PM
Subject: newbie Question abt number of xsls


Hi,
Is it possible to have only one xsl for each type ML ie one for WAP
one for and one for HTML generation and etc.
And all the xml page should use the same stylesheet. according to the
useragent it should pick one of the xsl in all the pages.
I have a senario where there are 200 pages in the application. As far as my
understanding for each page we should write an xsl and one for each type of
ML. Is there any generic approach ? because the application will have lots
of pages if there is one to one.
ie, as of now i have to support html wap and chtml ... that becomes 200 xmls
+ 600 xsl !!!

Please suggest me what to do ??
I also welcome someother sort of implementaion also.
Thankx in advance,
Arun.N


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newbie Question abt number of xsls

[Arun.N]

Hi,
        
Is it possible to have only one xsl for each type ML ie one for WAP one for and 
one for HTML generation and etc.
And all the xml page should use the 
same stylesheet. according to the useragent it should pick one of the xsl in all 
the pages.
I have a senario where there are 200 
pages in the application. As far as my understanding for each page we should 
write an xsl and one for each type of ML. Is there any generic approach ? 
because the application will have lots of pages if there is one to one. 

ie, as of now i have to support html 
wap and chtml ... that becomes 200 xmls + 600 xsl !!!
 
Please suggest me what to do 
??
I also welcome someother sort of 
implementaion also.
Thankx in advance,
Arun.N

Newbie Question

[Tanzila Mohammad]

Hello all,

I am trying to get started, I have installed cocoon successfully and I am
able to view the examples via local host.

I have the following scenario:

HTML file --1-> FO file --2--> PDF File

I have the XSL stylesheet to do the conversion 1 and the html file. I have
ran these independently using saxon, then FOP so I know the underlying code
is correct. But I am not sure how to actually execute each stage in Cocoon
(cocoon functions - to produce the FO file etc).

I apologize for the basic level of this question.

Tanz


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Re: Newbie Question (Static HTML from Cocoon2)

[Arno Illmann]

Oh. Yes. I hit the wrong button! .-) Arno

giacomo schrieb:
> 
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Arno Illmann wrote:
> 
> Arno
> 
> Please post in english or in private.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Giacomo
> 
> > oder z.B mit Webcopier (mein favorite, ist auch freeware) oder noch anderen 
>"offline browsern".  Aber warum eine static version ?
> >
> > mfg, Arno
> >
> > Sebastian Mäder schrieb:
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > my name is sebastian and im a trainee on a company in Gemany. Im was
> > > building a website with xhtml and cocoon2 ..
> > >
> > > Now my big boss said to me, that i have to build a "STATIC HTML VERSION" of
> > > my cocoon site, and I don't know how I can do this.
> > > The only way I know is, to save from Browser, but that's not the way.
> > >
> > > Are there any instructions for the sitemap.xmap or a batch file, which
> > > generated this static version ??
> > > I will hope you can help me. How can I get this information?
> > >
> > > THX
> > >
> > > Sebastian
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Re: Newbie Question (Static HTML from Cocoon2)

[Jeff Turner]

For a real-world example of a Cocoon website being generated offline,
have a look at the jakarta-avalon documentation system. All driven by
Ant.. pretty cool :)

wget is probably less hassle though.

--Jeff

On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 10:51:15AM +0200, Sebastian Mäder wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> my name is sebastian and im a trainee on a company in Gemany. Im was
> building a website with xhtml and cocoon2 ..
> 
> Now my big boss said to me, that i have to build a "STATIC HTML VERSION" of
> my cocoon site, and I don't know how I can do this.
> The only way I know is, to save from Browser, but that's not the way.
> 
> Are there any instructions for the sitemap.xmap or a batch file, which
> generated this static version ??
> I will hope you can help me. How can I get this information?
> 
> THX
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Newbie Question (Static HTML from Cocoon2)

[giacomo]

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Arno Illmann wrote:

Arno

Please post in english or in private.

TIA

Giacomo

> oder z.B mit Webcopier (mein favorite, ist auch freeware) oder noch anderen "offline 
>browsern".  Aber warum eine static version ?
>
> mfg, Arno
>
> Sebastian Mäder schrieb:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > my name is sebastian and im a trainee on a company in Gemany. Im was
> > building a website with xhtml and cocoon2 ..
> >
> > Now my big boss said to me, that i have to build a "STATIC HTML VERSION" of
> > my cocoon site, and I don't know how I can do this.
> > The only way I know is, to save from Browser, but that's not the way.
> >
> > Are there any instructions for the sitemap.xmap or a batch file, which
> > generated this static version ??
> > I will hope you can help me. How can I get this information?
> >
> > THX
> >
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RE: Newbie Question (Static HTML from Cocoon2)

[Michael McKibben]

Hello, Cocoon also includes a command line utility for this. Run "java -jar
cocoon.jar -help" for usage description (the cocoon.jar file contains a
Class-Path manifest so as long as cocoon.jar is in your cocoon lib directory
your classpath should be set up automatically.)

Regards,

--mike

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Subject: Newbie Question (Static HTML from Cocoon2)


Hi there,

my name is sebastian and im a trainee on a company in Gemany. Im was
building a website with xhtml and cocoon2 ..

Now my big boss said to me, that i have to build a "STATIC HTML VERSION" of
my cocoon site, and I don't know how I can do this.
The only way I know is, to save from Browser, but that's not the way.

Are there any instructions for the sitemap.xmap or a batch file, which
generated this static version ??
I will hope you can help me. How can I get this information?

THX

Sebastian





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Re: Newbie Question (Static HTML from Cocoon2)

[Arno Illmann]

oder z.B mit Webcopier (mein favorite, ist auch freeware) oder noch anderen "offline 
browsern".  Aber warum eine static version ?

mfg, Arno

Sebastian Mäder schrieb:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> my name is sebastian and im a trainee on a company in Gemany. Im was
> building a website with xhtml and cocoon2 ..
> 
> Now my big boss said to me, that i have to build a "STATIC HTML VERSION" of
> my cocoon site, and I don't know how I can do this.
> The only way I know is, to save from Browser, but that's not the way.
> 
> Are there any instructions for the sitemap.xmap or a batch file, which
> generated this static version ??
> I will hope you can help me. How can I get this information?
> 
> THX
> 
> Sebastian
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Re: Newbie Question (Static HTML from Cocoon2)

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

> i have to build a "STATIC HTML VERSION" of
> my cocoon site

wget (www.gnu.org/software/wget) should allow you to do this - it will 
recursively pull HTML pages from an HTTP connection and save them as static 
files.

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Newbie Question (Static HTML from Cocoon2)

[Sebastian Mäder]

Hi there,

my name is sebastian and im a trainee on a company in Gemany. Im was
building a website with xhtml and cocoon2 ..

Now my big boss said to me, that i have to build a "STATIC HTML VERSION" of
my cocoon site, and I don't know how I can do this.
The only way I know is, to save from Browser, but that's not the way.

Are there any instructions for the sitemap.xmap or a batch file, which
generated this static version ??
I will hope you can help me. How can I get this information?

THX

Sebastian





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newbie question: Cocoon 2

[Andreas Gruenhagen]

Hello,
what is cocoon trying to tell me by returning an error page with:

type internal-servlet-error

message Internal servlet error

description Cocoon was not initialized.

sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet

source Cocoon servlet

request-uri
/cocoon

embedded exception
org.apache.avalon.framework.component.ComponentException: Could not access 
the Component for role: org.apache.cocoon.components.parser.Parser

etc...

thanks for any help

andreas


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Re: Dynamic stylesheets (Newbie question)

[Christopher Painter-Wakefield]

Kevin,

there are many ways of doing what you want to do, outside of modifying your
code as has already been suggested.

You can generate Cocoon processing instructions dynamically in your XML,
using the  tag (see http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xsp.html for
instructions on this.)  You can also chain stylesheets using the
 tag, which is how I prefer to do it.

You can grab your request parameters (mode=view, etc.) either by using XSP
in your object.xml or using  at the root level of
your stylesheet (see "Using query parameters during XSL transformation" in
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/guide.html for more info on that.)

For simplicity, let's assume your XML looks like this (either a static XML
file or the output from your XSP page):


  view
  ...


Your stylesheet would look like this:


  
  type="xslt"
  

  

  
href="view.xsl"
type="text/xsl"
  



  
href="edit.xsl"
type="text/xsl"
  

  

  


...

-Christopher




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I currently have two XML documents, object-view.xml and object-edit.xml.
Both are identical except for one word in one line.

object-view.xml calls this stylesheet:


while object-edit.xml calls this one:


It seems silly and inefficient to have two XML documents for this.  What I
want to do is have just one XML file and access these two different
renditions like this (or some other easy method):

http://servername:8080/cocoon/object.xml?mode=view
http://servername:8080/cocoon/object.xml?mode=edit

I am surprised I cannot find an answer to this problem.  I learned that
XML/XSLT can't do this alone, and then I figured Cocoon can do this, but I
have searched FAQ, archive and docs.  Am I not looking in the right place
or
using the proper terms?  Any pointers appreciated.  I've got 1.8.2
installed
with Jakarta Tomcat 3.2.3.

Thanks,

--Kevin





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Re: Dynamic stylesheets (Newbie question)

[Mamadou Bobo Sylla]

--- Kevin Ashworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I currently have two XML documents, object-view.xml
> and object-edit.xml.
> Both are identical except for one word in one line.



Since the two are identicals except for one line (by
one word), I guess you don't need two XML as you don't
need two XSL either.One XML and one XSL can handle
this job.

What you could do is to write the line in which the
two XML are different in such a way that the xml
element of that line, contains attribute having as
value the word which makes the difference between the
two lines.
For instance: Let's say I have two shirts, one blue
and the other one black.If I consider the shirt as xml
element, I can point out the difference of color like
this:
 
some text here
 some other text here

Then you'll design your XSL in this way:

IF color=blue SHOW this
IF color=black SHOW this other

In your case , maybe you could write your XML in this
way:



Then your stylesheet will check if the purpose value
is view.xml, then do the "view job", else if the value
is edit.xml then do the edit job.

I hope this solve your problem.
Bobo

> object-view.xml calls this stylesheet:
> 
> 
> while object-edit.xml calls this one:
> 
> 
> It seems silly and inefficient to have two XML
> documents for this.  What I
> want to do is have just one XML file and access
> these two different
> renditions like this (or some other easy method):
> 
> http://servername:8080/cocoon/object.xml?mode=view
> http://servername:8080/cocoon/object.xml?mode=edit
> 
> I am surprised I cannot find an answer to this
> problem.  I learned that
> XML/XSLT can't do this alone, and then I figured
> Cocoon can do this, but I
> have searched FAQ, archive and docs.  Am I not
> looking in the right place or
> using the proper terms?  Any pointers appreciated. 
> I've got 1.8.2 installed
> with Jakarta Tomcat 3.2.3.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --Kevin
> 
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Dynamic stylesheets (Newbie question)

[Kevin Ashworth]

I currently have two XML documents, object-view.xml and object-edit.xml.
Both are identical except for one word in one line.

object-view.xml calls this stylesheet:


while object-edit.xml calls this one:


It seems silly and inefficient to have two XML documents for this.  What I
want to do is have just one XML file and access these two different
renditions like this (or some other easy method):

http://servername:8080/cocoon/object.xml?mode=view
http://servername:8080/cocoon/object.xml?mode=edit

I am surprised I cannot find an answer to this problem.  I learned that
XML/XSLT can't do this alone, and then I figured Cocoon can do this, but I
have searched FAQ, archive and docs.  Am I not looking in the right place or
using the proper terms?  Any pointers appreciated.  I've got 1.8.2 installed
with Jakarta Tomcat 3.2.3.

Thanks,

--Kevin




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FW: newbie question: (XML->XSLT) cached -> session logic -> browser??

[Karl Oie]

Thank you very much, i will try this now (just have to read about XSP and
sessions first :-)...

Just a final question about C2 as it seems you know about it's inner
working. The class that gets created as a cache for my largefile.xml
document. does it contain my entire document? (since i could delete the
original file...) is it keept in memory? I would have to buy some more ram
chips i guess ;-)


mvh karl


On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Karl Oie wrote:

> i think i understand, but won't this put a lot of processing on the
server?
> the toc.xsl takes about 3 minutes to generate. if i apply the logic in the
> XSP page the page will have to process the entire XML document each time?

Well not exactly.
The entire document gets processed ONLY when you ask the page for
the first time.
A class is generated then, consisting of your toc.xsl applied to
the original document.
If your xsp file was empty, the result would be a java-file which produces
your XML document as SAX events. You COULD delete your xml file once
the java file is generated, because it is not needed anymore (but you
shouldn't because cocoon depends on the file to be there ;)

So basically your xml document is replaced by code that fires SAX
events to the contenthandler (the first stylesheet in your pipeline).

Therefore, everytime your page gets requested the cached class file
gets called.

Your xml page will not be entirely passed through the pipeline,
because not all the code that fires the SAX events get called.

I hope you understand..
You might want to try this out with a small xml file, consisting
of only 2 tags, and a simple if-then-else statement depending
on a query parameter 'section=one' or 'two'.
Check the generated source file, it should be
in tomcats 'work' dir under
$TOMCAT_HOME/work/localhost%F8080/[servlet-zone]/org/apache/www/..._xml.java
that should clarify it for you (search for the 'generate' function).

There is another way to accomplish this. This is done as follows:
let your XSP page add an XML tag in the result, for instance
if ()
{ 
  

  
}
else 
 

and let your stylesheet (NOT toc.xsl :)) check for that tag,
and then process some part of your input xml file.
This way, the document WILL get parsed EVERY time, ENTIRELY.
THis is the slow and ugly way.

So use XSP and it will be fast ;)

(btw: i've coded my own cocoon clone with XSP which is a lot faster
than cocoon, simply because it is not as modular as cocoon. That's
why I understand cocoon so well :))

Hope this helps, if not, feel free to ask.

> 
> mvh karl
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 9. august 2001 18:15
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: newbie question: (XML->XSLT) cached -> session logic ->
> browser??
> 
> 
> 
> Just create an XSP page,
> with a template matching the root element of your xml page.
> Then do some if-then-else based on your session.
> In each 'if' body you do something like this:
> 
>   if (some_session_based_expression)
>   {
>   
>   }
>   else if ()
> 
> 
> The template 'henk' is inserted in the place of the call.
> If it just consists of content, it looks like this:
> 
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
> 
> This way you get 1 producer/generator, which can produce all the
> different pages you want (that is, sections of your XML document)
> based on some viariables in the session.
> 
> 
> I use this technique to validate users:
> 
> The XML document:
> 
>   
>   
> 
>   
>   
>  
>   
> 
>
> The xsp page:
>
> 
>   
> if (userInGroup(""))
> {
>   
>   
> 
> }
> else
> {
>   
> 
> 
> }
>   
>
> 
>
>
> The UserInGroup checks the session for a user object, standard code..
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>   Kenney Westerhof
>
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Karl Oie wrote:
>
> > Hi, im pretty new to cocoon2 so i need some advice about the best
aproach
> > for my problem;
> >
> > I got a quite large XML file which i use a XSL stylesheet to extract
only
> > parts of, but the XML file might change so i set this up as the
generator.
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > ... perform logic on the result based on sessions ...
> >
> > 
> > 
> >
> > Then based on the the user's session state i want to perform logic on
the
> > extract, to hide and show elements (this is a session based toc).
> >
> > What can i use to do this, a XSP, JSP, write a new
> > generator/transfo

RE: newbie question: (XML->XSLT) cached -> session logic -> browser??

[Karl Oie]

i think i understand, but won't this put a lot of processing on the server?
the toc.xsl takes about 3 minutes to generate. if i apply the logic in the
XSP page the page will have to process the entire XML document each time?

mvh karl



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Subject: Re: newbie question: (XML->XSLT) cached -> session logic ->
browser??



Just create an XSP page,
with a template matching the root element of your xml page.
Then do some if-then-else based on your session.
In each 'if' body you do something like this:

  if (some_session_based_expression)
  {

  }
  else if ()


The template 'henk' is inserted in the place of the call.
If it just consists of content, it looks like this:


  

  


This way you get 1 producer/generator, which can produce all the
different pages you want (that is, sections of your XML document)
based on some viariables in the session.


I use this technique to validate users:

The XML document:


  

  
  
 
  


The xsp page:


  
if (userInGroup(""))
{



}
else
{



}
  




The UserInGroup checks the session for a user object, standard code..

Hope this helps,

Kenney Westerhof

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Karl Oie wrote:

> Hi, im pretty new to cocoon2 so i need some advice about the best aproach
> for my problem;
>
> I got a quite large XML file which i use a XSL stylesheet to extract only
> parts of, but the XML file might change so i set this up as the generator.
>
> 
>   
>   
>
>   ... perform logic on the result based on sessions ...
>
>   
> 
>
> Then based on the the user's session state i want to perform logic on the
> extract, to hide and show elements (this is a session based toc).
>
> What can i use to do this, a XSP, JSP, write a new
> generator/transformer/serializer ?
>
> Is it possible to place session handling in a custom serializer? is this a
> job for a transformer, and will i then have to implement it myself and is
it
> then possible to add session handling?
>
> Should i create a custom generator, if so how to implement caching and
> session handling?
>
> I'm quite good at java, but i'm new to cocoon and need some pointers in
the
> right direction.
>
> in advance thanks!
>
> mvh Karl
>
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Re: newbie question: (XML->XSLT) cached -> session logic -> browser??

[forge]

Just create an XSP page,
with a template matching the root element of your xml page.
Then do some if-then-else based on your session.
In each 'if' body you do something like this:

  if (some_session_based_expression)
  {

  }
  else if ()


The template 'henk' is inserted in the place of the call.
If it just consists of content, it looks like this:


  

  


This way you get 1 producer/generator, which can produce all the 
different pages you want (that is, sections of your XML document)
based on some viariables in the session.


I use this technique to validate users:

The XML document:


  

  
  
 
  


The xsp page:


  
if (userInGroup(""))
{



}
else
{



}
  
 



The UserInGroup checks the session for a user object, standard code..

Hope this helps,

Kenney Westerhof

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Karl Oie wrote:

> Hi, im pretty new to cocoon2 so i need some advice about the best aproach
> for my problem;
> 
> I got a quite large XML file which i use a XSL stylesheet to extract only
> parts of, but the XML file might change so i set this up as the generator.
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
>   ... perform logic on the result based on sessions ...
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Then based on the the user's session state i want to perform logic on the
> extract, to hide and show elements (this is a session based toc).
> 
> What can i use to do this, a XSP, JSP, write a new
> generator/transformer/serializer ?
> 
> Is it possible to place session handling in a custom serializer? is this a
> job for a transformer, and will i then have to implement it myself and is it
> then possible to add session handling?
> 
> Should i create a custom generator, if so how to implement caching and
> session handling?
> 
> I'm quite good at java, but i'm new to cocoon and need some pointers in the
> right direction.
> 
> in advance thanks!
> 
> mvh Karl
> 
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newbie question: (XML->XSLT) cached -> session logic -> browser??

[Karl Oie]

Hi, im pretty new to cocoon2 so i need some advice about the best aproach
for my problem;

I got a quite large XML file which i use a XSL stylesheet to extract only
parts of, but the XML file might change so i set this up as the generator.





... perform logic on the result based on sessions ...




Then based on the the user's session state i want to perform logic on the
extract, to hide and show elements (this is a session based toc).

What can i use to do this, a XSP, JSP, write a new
generator/transformer/serializer ?

Is it possible to place session handling in a custom serializer? is this a
job for a transformer, and will i then have to implement it myself and is it
then possible to add session handling?

Should i create a custom generator, if so how to implement caching and
session handling?

I'm quite good at java, but i'm new to cocoon and need some pointers in the
right direction.

in advance thanks!

mvh Karl


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RE: Newbie Question: can't access some of Cocoon2's samples

[Scott N. Smith]

This has been a known bug with Weblogic 6.0 and Cocoon 2 only for several
weeks.

HTH,

Scott Smith

-Original Message-
From: Mercier Xavier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 4:28 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Newbie Question: can't access some of Cocoon2's samples


Hi Cocooners,

How's the craic?

I'd been working so far with Cocoon1.8 but was very intrigued by Cocoon2 and
decided eventually to give it a chance.

Here is my environment:
OS = Windows NT 4
Java = JDK 1.3
Application Server: BEA WebLogic 6

I built Cocoon2, then followed the installation instructions to the letter
(http://xml.apache.org/cocoon2/install.html) and finally managed to access
the Welcome Page after starting WebLogic. So far so good.

Naturally, my first reaction is to try out the samples provided. Because I
was essentially interested in XSP, I click on the Simple XSP Example link.
No problemo. Actually, I can access everything related to Dynamic Content.

When I try the simplest example though, named "Multimedia Hello World HTML"
that transforms a simple XML page into an HTML page, I constantly obtain the
following error:


--
Error 404--Not Found
>From RFC 2068 Hypertext Transfer Protocol -- HTTP/1.1: 
10.4.5 404 Not Found
The server has not found anything matching the Request-URI. No indication is
given of whether the condition is temporary or permanent.
If the server does not wish to make this information available to the
client, the status code 403 (Forbidden) can be used instead. The 410 (Gone)
status code SHOULD be used if the server knows, through some internally
configurable mechanism, that an old resource is permanently unavailable and
has no forwarding address.

--
I tried to modify the sitemap.xmap file but with no success. I found nothing
in the FAQ related to that. I'm surprised to see that Cocoon2 seems to work
with more complicated examples. I'm baffled.
Has anybody else ever experienced the same problem? If so, how did you solve
it? Do you have suggestions?
Please help me, and I'll drink a glass of Jameson tonight in your honor!!
Thanks a bunch,
Xavier

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Newbie Question: can't access some of Cocoon2's samples

[Mercier Xavier]

Hi Cocooners,

How's the craic?

I'd been working so far with Cocoon1.8 but was very intrigued by Cocoon2 and
decided eventually to give it a chance.

Here is my environment:
OS = Windows NT 4
Java = JDK 1.3
Application Server: BEA WebLogic 6

I built Cocoon2, then followed the installation instructions to the letter
(http://xml.apache.org/cocoon2/install.html) and finally managed to access
the Welcome Page after starting WebLogic. So far so good.

Naturally, my first reaction is to try out the samples provided. Because I
was essentially interested in XSP, I click on the Simple XSP Example link.
No problemo. Actually, I can access everything related to Dynamic Content.

When I try the simplest example though, named "Multimedia Hello World HTML"
that transforms a simple XML page into an HTML page, I constantly obtain the
following error:


--
Error 404--Not Found
>From RFC 2068 Hypertext Transfer Protocol -- HTTP/1.1: 
10.4.5 404 Not Found
The server has not found anything matching the Request-URI. No indication is
given of whether the condition is temporary or permanent.
If the server does not wish to make this information available to the
client, the status code 403 (Forbidden) can be used instead. The 410 (Gone)
status code SHOULD be used if the server knows, through some internally
configurable mechanism, that an old resource is permanently unavailable and
has no forwarding address.

--
I tried to modify the sitemap.xmap file but with no success. I found nothing
in the FAQ related to that. I'm surprised to see that Cocoon2 seems to work
with more complicated examples. I'm baffled.
Has anybody else ever experienced the same problem? If so, how did you solve
it? Do you have suggestions?
Please help me, and I'll drink a glass of Jameson tonight in your honor!!
Thanks a bunch,
Xavier

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Re: [C2] Newbie question again

[Drasko Kokic]

--- Giacomo Pati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting Aleksey Globets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Ok,
> > 
> > I will try to ask in another way. If I plan to
> create two contexts in
> > Tomcat
> > pointed to different directories and to use Cocoon
> within it. So how I
> > can
> > use it?
> > Do I need to copy and rename /cocoon directory or
> something else?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Giacomo
> 

But, I hope, it is still possible to move all the jar
files into the central lib directory and reduce the
disk space needed ... right?!


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Re: [C2] Newbie question again

[Giacomo Pati]

Quoting Aleksey Globets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Ok,
> 
> I will try to ask in another way. If I plan to create two contexts in
> Tomcat
> pointed to different directories and to use Cocoon within it. So how I
> can
> use it?
> Do I need to copy and rename /cocoon directory or something else?

Yes.

Giacomo

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Re: [C2] Newbie question again

[Petteri Sulonen]

On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 08:51  AM, Aleksey Globets wrote:

> Ok,
>
> I will try to ask in another way. If I plan to create two contexts in 
> Tomcat
> pointed to different directories and to use Cocoon within it. So how I 
> can
> use it?
> Do I need to copy and rename /cocoon directory or something else?

Nope. You just add the context to the server.xml file, like this:




Then you need to copy the WEB-INF directory (with cocoon.properties and 
web.xml) to the /path/to/foo directory. As long as the Cocoon jars are 
in Tomcat's classpath, it'll work. Restart Tomcat, and you're in 
business.

-- Petteri


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[C2] Newbie question again

[Aleksey Globets]

Ok,

I will try to ask in another way. If I plan to create two contexts in Tomcat
pointed to different directories and to use Cocoon within it. So how I can
use it?
Do I need to copy and rename /cocoon directory or something else?

Best,

Aleksey Globets


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RE: [C2] Newbie question

[HALLOWELL,KARL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)]

I'm not sure what you are asking. Cocoon will always look for those jars in
that directory. If you wish to install cocoon in a directory other than
/cocoon, then you should change the configuration information when you first
build cocoon. I'm not sure but I think that particular parameter is in
build.xml.


Karl Hallowell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Aleksey Globets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [C2] Newbie question
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just install C2. It works fine. But if I plan to use cocoon 
> from other
> directory then /cocoon then do I need to copy all JARs from
> /cocoon/WEB-INF/lib directory to a new one?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Aleksey Globets
> 
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Re: [C2] Newbie question

[giacomo]

On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Aleksey Globets wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just install C2. It works fine. But if I plan to use cocoon from other
> directory then /cocoon then do I need to copy all JARs from
> /cocoon/WEB-INF/lib directory to a new one?

You can rename it. The name of the directory is not relevant to C2
itself.

Giacomo

>
> Best,
>
> Aleksey Globets
>
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[C2] Newbie question

[Aleksey Globets]

Hi,

I just install C2. It works fine. But if I plan to use cocoon from other
directory then /cocoon then do I need to copy all JARs from
/cocoon/WEB-INF/lib directory to a new one?

Best,

Aleksey Globets


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