Re: [Cooker] install report 8.2b3 , the martian invasion

2002-03-04 Thread Steven J Mackenzie

> on the 'net.  Everybody Apache user I know (that use
> it on workstations) do the same things.

I agree that this will cause annoy more people than it will help .. imho

Steven





Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Mike Eheler

> > > 3. change your CD drive
> >
> > I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> > 3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> > writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> > with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
> >
> 
> Go ahead and give it a shot. Adding the ide-scsi stuff is ultra easy.  when 
> setting up lilo add to the "append" field "hdx=ide-scsi". where hdx is your 
> drive.
> 

Well.. I got it installed. Found out after launching the installer that
there was a 3rd cd (contribs).. heh. Had to boot back into 8.1 to
download/burn the ISO. But now all is well and I must say beta 4 seems
to run quite smoothly.

> 
> >> > 5. do not test
> >
> > So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> > you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> > 8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
> >
> > > Warly
> 
> I suspect someone was having a really BAD day.

You could say that ;)
Getting much better. My apologies to Warly for my snooty tone.

Mike





[Cooker] Battery Indicator Bug on Sony Vaio FXA-36

2002-03-04 Thread Warren Togami


At about roughly the same time the reboot hang described in this message
http://www.mandrake.com/en/archives/cooker/2002-03/msg00636.php
began occuring in Cooker, the battery indicator in the KDE systray
stopped working properly.

At the time I thought it was another new kernel bug, but it now occurs
on all tested kernels (see the above thread URL) so this indicates to me
that it may be a bug in KDE itself, or the bug was fixed in early 2.4.17
mdk but broken again later.

Again, anyone know if I can get the kernel RPM's from early 2.4.17 patch
levels to properly test this and the reboot hang bug?

Thanks again,
Warren Togami
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Fwd: Re: [Plf-discuss] Fwd: [Cooker] plf forbids me to get src files!]

2002-03-04 Thread Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek

Jean-Michel Dault wrote:

>Guillaume, excellent suggestion you had on permissions. I will put them in
>the new Apache version.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jean-Michel
>
>>I'd say instead :
>>
>>  Options +Indexes
>>
>>-> indexes are allowed in /home/plf/www/rpm only
>>
>>"Allow from" directive is about access right, and should be preceded by 
>>"Order" directive
>>
>>Question for Christian:
>>- why isn't a deny from all directive for / directory ?
>>- why isn't all options explicitely disabled in / directory ?
>>I'd used instead:
>>
>>  Options -All -Multiviews
>>  AllowOverride None
>>  Order deny,allow
>>  Deny from all
>>
>>-- 
>>Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
>>
>
I think denying access by default is confusing. If you did not want web 
access you would not install and run apache.
But if it was possible to allow access to the main page saying 'It 
worked' and apache manual levaing the rest denied I'd prefer to set up 
default permissions this way.





Re: [Cooker] 8.2 beta4

2002-03-04 Thread Martin Mačok

On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 07:16:48PM -0500, Gary Russell wrote:
> Still can not add mirror to Mandrake Update. Same error "An error occurred 
> while adding this source"

Try adding it as "ftp" with "../base/hdlist.cz" (hdlist2.cz for RPMS2/
directory).

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[Cooker] Kernel Bug: Reboot Hang on Sony Vaio FXA-36

2002-03-04 Thread Warren Togami

I've been using Mandrake Cooker since about 2 months before Mandrake 8.2
beta 1.  Everything was going well until around early patchlevels of
kernel 2.4.17 mdk.  When I reboot from those kernels, my notebook
computer is stuck forever at the BIOS screen with the hard drive light
stuck on.  Only thing I can do is force a powerdown.  I have noticed at
least one other user mentioning this symptom on MandrakeExpert.

The following kernels exhibit this same behavior.
kernel-2.4.17.19mdk-1-1mdk
kernel-linus2.4-2.4.18-1mdk
kernel-2.4.18.3mdk-1-1mdk

This old kernel from MDK 8.1 updates reboots fine:
kernel-2.4.8-34.1mdk

This regression occured sometime during early 2.4.17mdk patchlevels.  Is
there anywhere I can download all of these Cooker kernel RPM's to do
testing again in order to find exactly when this bug was introduced?

Thank you for your time,
Warren Togami
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mid-Pacific Linux Users Group
http://www.mplug.org

p.s.
This is an Athlon 4 notebook computer with VIA chipset.  Please let me
know if you want me to post more information about the hardware specs.





Re: [Cooker] install report 8.2b3 , the martian invasion

2002-03-04 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 06:44:06PM -0800, David Walser wrote:

> > What are you talking about?  Enabling Indexes by
> > default somehow makes
> > Apache work whereas having it off by default
> > doesn't?
> 
> Did it ever occur to you that people use Apache for
> more than serving websites?  Especially desktop users
> on networks, your primary userbase?  I haven't used
> floppies in all of college, I just stick files in my
> public_html directory and get them when I need them, I
> also use my webserver to get files to people I talk to
> on the 'net.  Everybody Apache user I know (that use
> it on workstations) do the same things.

Not to sound silly or anything, but apache is a web server... we build
and configure it as web server.  Our aim, with apache, is for it to be
a web server.  Now, I agree that there are probably a million and one
uses for apache, but really... what you do with apache is your
business, right?  Just because you, and some people you know, use
apache this way doesn't mean everyone uses it this way.  I certainly
never have.  If I want a file manager, I'll use Nautilus, or
Konqueror, or any other tool that was designed for that task.  Since
apache is a web server, when we deal with configuration issues, we
think of it as a web server.  Thus, configuration options suitable for
a web server.

> > Apache works just *fine* without Indexes.  And
> > because it is,
> > potentially, a security hole (through inappropriate
> > disclosure), the
> > end user should be forced to enable it where
> > appropriate... which is
> > exactly the case.
> 
> It is not a security hole, and it's a joke calling it
> one.  If someone's gonna put files on a public
> webserver that they don't want people to get to, they
> should either have to disable Indexes themselves (I
> mean geez, this is a very small percentage of Apache
> users, why punish everybody else?) or use htaccess
> (which there's much more documentation on).

Well, ok, perhaps "security hole" is not an appropriate phrase.  Maybe
"security concern" would be a better way to put it.  However, as you
stated before, we're looking at newbies here...  newbies who may not
know about .htaccess.  In essence, we're helping protect the newbie
apache admin.  I don't think newbies will install the apache *web
server* to act as a file manager.. if they're going to look for a file
manager, I don't think they'll be as creative as you and will use a
tool intended to be a file manager.

As far as calling it "punishing everyone else", that's just as
laughable as me calling it a "security hole".  I hardly see this as
punishment considering you must be savvy enough to make the necessary
changes yourself.

I really think that there is probably a low percentage of people who
decide to take the apache web server and use it as the apache file
manager.

> > This has absolutely nothing to do with whether
> > apache works or not
> > "out of the box".
> 
> It absolutely does depending on how you intend to use it.

Sure.  And we intend for apache to be used as a web server and, again,
we configure it as such.  If you don't like that, I suppose you could
contribute a apache-filemgr package.

Besides, this really is a moot point since it likely will not be
changing anytime soon.  I guess you'll just have to live with that.
Sorry.

While we can't control what you use a software package for, we can
certainly control how we package it.  And we've deviced, since a long
time ago, to package apache as a web server... if you choose to use it
somehow else, then you must deal with reconfiguring it to suit your
(nonstandard) needs.

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[Cooker] 8.2beta4: AfterStep

2002-03-04 Thread Sally Siegel

CD3 contains all the afterstep accessories (AfterStep-APPS, libafterstep1, 
libafterstep1-devel, etc), but not AfterStep itself.  Was this just 
overlooked?

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Re: [Cooker] install report 8.2b3 , the martian invasion

2002-03-04 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 10:08:08PM -0500, Levi Ramsey wrote:

> > Apache works just *fine* without Indexes.  And because it is,
> > potentially, a security hole (through inappropriate disclosure), the
> > end user should be forced to enable it where appropriate... which is
> > exactly the case.
> 
> Yes, but every case that I can think of where a security problem was
> caused by Indexes was in reality a case of putting a sensitive file in a
> web-accessible directory.  The indexing itself is not a problem, imo.

You're right.  Think of it as security through obscurity.  Not much,
in terms of security, but it does add some extra protection, which can
be useful for newbies who don't really know what they're doing.

I also only make reference to the newbies here because everyone else
seems to want to continually point out that Mandrake is for newbies,
so those who want to use Mandrake as an "expert" (I guess) are stuck
with some newbiezed software configured in a newbiezed way.

(not that I believe Mandrake is just for newbies at all)

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Re: [Fwd: [Cooker] apache expat perl]

2002-03-04 Thread Jean-Michel Dault

On 4 Mar 2002, Nouguier Olivier wrote:

I made new apache and mod_perl packages without expat.

The only reason it was there was for mod_dav, but it can be linked with
the standard expat library that's included in Mandrake Linux already.

Jean-Michel

> le lun 04-03-2002 à 12:30, Jean-Michel Dault a écrit :
> > On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Christian Belisle wrote:
> > 
> > Est-ce que vous pourriez m'en dire plus? Un patch serait apprecie =)
> > 
> > Jean-Michel
> > 
> Bonjour,
>   Ben le truc est assez simple, il y une incompatibilité ( même symbole
> ou un truc comme ça  
> http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/28/msg00229.html 
> http://axkit.org/faq.xml
>  ) entre le expat d'apache, et celui d'autre ( entre autre XML::Parser )
> de perl. Le résultat est qu'il ne faut pas compiler un serveur apache
> avec mod_perl sans disabler expat dans apache, sinon segfault dés que
> l'on parse un fichier xml avec XML::Parser.
> 
> Le "probleme" est que si l'on veut que les 2 serveurs httpd et
> httpd-perl aient la même configuration ( histoire qu'ils puissent
> utiliser les mêmes modules, sans risque ..., cf macro apflags dans
> apache-mod_perl.spec ), il faut rebuilder les rpm apache apache-devel,
> les installer et faire de meme avec apache-mod_perl le tout sans expat (
> disable-rule=expat ). 
> 
> Le patch revient à ajouter --disable-rule=expat dans apache.spec et à
> remplacer --enable-rule=expat par disable dans apache-mod_perl.spec et
> rebuilder le tout.
> 
> J'espere avoir été clair, mais je ne sais pas à quoi sert expat dans
> apache, personnellement je n'ai jamais eu de probleme a ne pas
> l'utiliser.
> 
> A++
> 
> 



Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Research & Development, Advanced Extranet Server 
Montreal (Canada)/Altadena (USA)/Paris (France)





Re: [Cooker] bootsplash questions

2002-03-04 Thread garrick

I am certainly *not* the authority on this subject, but seeing the Ayo
theme inspired me to make my own theme over the weekend.  Having delved
into themes, I can say that I've found no way to do either of those
things.

However, the cursor color is apperently set by the progress bar color.

I want to know how to increase the refresh rate of the console.
1280x1024 @ 60Hz is a bit harsh on the eyes!

On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 07:23:16PM -0800, Quel Qun alleged:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Two questions about bootsplash if you have time to answer:
> 
> 1. Is there a way to leave the same background on the other consoles?
> 
> 2. Can I configure the text color anywhere?
> 
> Thanks,
> =--=
> kk1
> 
> PS: yes and yes would be mean answers ;)
> 




Re: [Cooker] /usr/X11R6/bin not in PATH

2002-03-04 Thread Frederic Lepied

David Walluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Something (possibly msec), had removed /usr/X11R6/bin from the path,
> so that KDE would fail to start, and others would have various
> problems. I added:
> 
> PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin
> export PATH
> 
> to /etc/X11/XSession
> 
> but I'm not sure of the right fix.

The path is set in /etc/profile. Perhaps a .rpmnew has been created
during an update...
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpm-4.0.3-8mdk

2002-03-04 Thread Frederic Lepied

David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> No, that's still wrong.  It's correct for Mandrake's
> build machine, but not for Mandrake users.  There's no
> reason it shouldn't default to buildling for the arch
> it's running on.  (More info below).

No it's correct for Mandrake users because they can rebuild the rpm of
the distrib out of the box. If you want to compile for another arch
for example for the athlon, use the --target athlon option or use the
following in /etc/rpm/rpmrc or in ~/.rpmrc:

buildarchtranslate: athlon: athlon
buildarchtranslate: i686: athlon
buildarchtranslate: k6: athlon
buildarchtranslate: 586: athlon

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Re: [Cooker] rpm -q kernel shows nothing

2002-03-04 Thread Steve Fox

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 21:58, David Walluck wrote:
> It's because of the extra dashes, meanign "kernel" is not the name of 
> the package but kernel-2.4.18.2mdk (apparently). I had always assumed 
> they did this on purpose. This allows you to bypass RPM stupidity with 
> more stupidity so you can install multiple kernels with --force.

Oh duh! Thank you. I forgot about the weird package naming. I can see
why this occurs now, although the package naming still sucks ;0)

Thanks to all.

-- 

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http://k-lug.org





Re: [Cooker] beta 4 install report

2002-03-04 Thread SI Reasoning

can you suspend to ram?

--- darrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is an upgrade of a Dell Inspiron 8000 from 
> 8.1->beta1->beta2->beta3->beta4
> 
> 1) During the X Configuration, I selected 'more' to
> get other 
> resolutions (1400x1040)
> and got an error dialog "An error occurred pixmap is
> not of type 
> Gtk::Gdk::Pixmap".
> The dialogs seemed to get confused but with some
> persistence I managed to
> get through the Monitor/Card dialogs.
> 
> 2) During boot, a message appears "ioctl
> VT_GETSTATE: invalid argument"
> as part of the aurora screen. It is replaced by
> something else and booting
> continues.
> 
> 3) Power management works with this kernel... I can
> plug/unplug the power
> without a problem (thanks Juan)
> 
> darrell
> 
> 


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[Cooker] beta 4 install report

2002-03-04 Thread darrell

This is an upgrade of a Dell Inspiron 8000 from 
8.1->beta1->beta2->beta3->beta4

1) During the X Configuration, I selected 'more' to get other 
resolutions (1400x1040)
and got an error dialog "An error occurred pixmap is not of type 
Gtk::Gdk::Pixmap".
The dialogs seemed to get confused but with some persistence I managed to
get through the Monitor/Card dialogs.

2) During boot, a message appears "ioctl VT_GETSTATE: invalid argument"
as part of the aurora screen. It is replaced by something else and booting
continues.

3) Power management works with this kernel... I can plug/unplug the power
without a problem (thanks Juan)

darrell





[Cooker] Kernel-ent 2.4.18-3mdk success on XFS system

2002-03-04 Thread Brad Felmey

Finally!

This is the first enterprise kernel since 2.4.8 that has booted my
primary (non-RS/6000) server (DPT RAID, 2-way SMP, 2GB RAM, XFS).
2.4.18-2mdk booted, but dumped within a minute. It feels good beyond
words.

Now if it will just stay up...
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] X freeze

2002-03-04 Thread Frederic Lepied

Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> 
> Since this was occurring on only 1 system with the main difference being the vid 
>card, a rage 128, I concluded that there was either something which X did not like 
>about it or in how it was configured.
> So applying the same non-logic which had worked when on another system I could not 
>get the nvdia driver to load, I # out the Load  "v41" entry in
> XF86Config-4.
> Since doing so I have had no lockups.

The problem is confirmed by the gatos author. The v4l entry must be
commented on the rage128. François could you change that in XFdrake ?

Could the people with a rage128 try this and confirm it is fixed by
commenting v4l ? Could you report me the lspcidrake -v entry for these
cards ?
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Re: [Cooker] Missing key errors

2002-03-04 Thread Frederic Lepied

Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ryan Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 21:18, Todd Lyons wrote:
> >> I've seen a couple of people mention this when checking signed rpms.
> >> 
> >> If you're getting the missing key errors when running 'rpm --checksig'
> > .
> > .
> >> Regards... Todd
> >> -- 
> >>Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc.
> >>  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> >> UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because 
> >>   that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn
> >
> > Couldn't the keys be included as part of basesystem or something so that
> > people don't have to download and import them themselves?
> > IIRC we didn't used to have to download the keys.
> 
> The key are in rpm package IIRC

no they are in gnupg package
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Re: [Cooker] Re: is something disabling my special keys I setup in rc.local?

2002-03-04 Thread SI Reasoning

I am having this problem within fluxbox, but I also
noticed it in kde.
--- Dušan Lacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 03 March 2002 16:17, Hoyt wrote:
> > I "fixed" this for KDE by putting a script in
> ~/.kde/Autostart. Adding it
> 
> I did the same -- I've put a short
> #!/bin/sh
> xmodmap /etc/X11/Xmodmap
> script to ~/.kde/Autostart because the changes I
> made to Xmodmap didn't seem 
> to work in KDE. I think that KDE is causing the
> problem, because my special 
> (browser, mail client, terminal, shutdown, )
> keys also stop to work after 
> I switch keyboard layouts in KDE (Slovak <-> U.S.
> English). I have to rerun 
> xmodmap /etc/X11/Xmodmap to make the keys work
> again.
> 
> > to /etc/X11/Xmodmap was ineffective. KDE also does
> not like the "XF86"
> > keysyms, but I understand that other windows
> managers do OK with them.
> 
> Yes, KDE ignores the XF86 keysyms -- that's why I
> remapped the extra keys to 
> F13 ~ F22 in /etc/Xmodmap. KDE doesn't have problem
> assigning functions to 
> F?? keys but it still kills my Xmodmap settings
> every time I switch the 
> keyboard layouts.
> 
> -- 
> Dušan Lacko
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 


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[Cooker] 3c90x module disregards MACADDR?

2002-03-04 Thread Brad Felmey

When using a 3Com 3c905B network card, the 3c59x module correctly
implements the MACADDR= line in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth(n) configs. If I use the 3c90x
module instead, it cheerfully disregards this setting and just uses the
hardware MAC. Is this behavior on purpose, or is something broken?
-- 
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[Cooker] no urpmi sources after beta4 hd install

2002-03-04 Thread Rolf Pedersen

This is for hd install from extracted files on a reiserfs partition to /, /home, 
/usr in ext3, all workstation categories, no individual selection, Iwill xp333r, 
Seagate ata100 40M.  I received the following messages when trying to install 
mozilla-fonts after first reboot:

[root@localhost rolf]# urpmi mozilla-fonts
unable to take medium "disc 1 Download Edition Installation CD (x86) (disk1)"
  into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.disc 1 Download Edition
  Installation CD (x86) (disk1)] exists
unable to take medium "disc 2 Download Edition Second Installation CD (x86)
  (disk2)" into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.disc 2 Download
  Edition Second Installation CD (x86) (disk2)] exists
unable to take medium "disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk3)"
  into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.disc 3 Download Edition
  Contributions CD (x86) (disk3)] exists
unable to take medium "disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk4)"
  into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.disc 3 Download Edition
  Contributions CD (x86) (disk4)] exists
[root@localhost rolf]#

I tried rpm --rebuilddb first (no difference) then added the sources (by 
cut-and-paste of the media names from the error message) in rpmdrake.  The 
package then installed, after giving me the same error messages, maybe because I 
didn't get the syntax correct (included the quotes in media names).  The 
following is now in /var/lib/urpmi:

[root@localhost rolf]# ls /var/lib/urpmi
compssUsers.flat
hdlist."disc 1 Download Edition Installation CD (x86) (disk1)".cz
hdlist.disc 1 Download Edition Installation CD (x86) (disk1).cz
hdlist."disc 2 Download Edition Second Installation CD (x86) (disk2)".cz
hdlist.disc 2 Download Edition Second Installation CD (x86) (disk2).cz
hdlist."disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk3)".cz
hdlist.disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk3).cz
hdlist."disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk4)".cz
hdlist.disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk4).cz
list."disc 1 Download Edition Installation CD (x86) (disk1)"
list."disc 2 Download Edition Second Installation CD (x86) (disk2)"
list."disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk3)"
list."disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk4)"
synthesis.hdlist."disc 1 Download Edition Installation CD (x86) (disk1)".cz
synthesis.hdlist.disc 1 Download Edition Installation CD (x86) (disk1).cz
synthesis.hdlist."disc 2 Download Edition Second Installation CD (x86)
  (disk2)".cz
synthesis.hdlist.disc 2 Download Edition Second Installation CD (x86)
  (disk2).czsynthesis.hdlist."disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86)
  (disk3)".cz
synthesis.hdlist.disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk3).cz
synthesis.hdlist."disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk4)".cz
synthesis.hdlist.disc 3 Download Edition Contributions CD (x86) (disk4).cz
[root@localhost rolf]#

A niggle:  My Actiontec PCI56012-01CW Call-Waiting modem still triggers a 
message at install about winmodems and www.linmodems.org, although, AFAIK, it is 
not software-controlled and works out of the box with maybe a link required.  I 
think Phil Lavigna must have the same modem as it is always featured in his 
Demos non-parallèles.

Thanks.





Re: [Cooker] Re: is something disabling my special keys I setup in rc.local?

2002-03-04 Thread Dušan Lacko

On Sunday 03 March 2002 16:17, Hoyt wrote:
> I "fixed" this for KDE by putting a script in ~/.kde/Autostart. Adding it

I did the same -- I've put a short
#!/bin/sh
xmodmap /etc/X11/Xmodmap
script to ~/.kde/Autostart because the changes I made to Xmodmap didn't seem 
to work in KDE. I think that KDE is causing the problem, because my special 
(browser, mail client, terminal, shutdown, ) keys also stop to work after 
I switch keyboard layouts in KDE (Slovak <-> U.S. English). I have to rerun 
xmodmap /etc/X11/Xmodmap to make the keys work again.

> to /etc/X11/Xmodmap was ineffective. KDE also does not like the "XF86"
> keysyms, but I understand that other windows managers do OK with them.

Yes, KDE ignores the XF86 keysyms -- that's why I remapped the extra keys to 
F13 ~ F22 in /etc/Xmodmap. KDE doesn't have problem assigning functions to 
F?? keys but it still kills my Xmodmap settings every time I switch the 
keyboard layouts.

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Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Randy K.Wilson

On Monday 04 March 2002 07:48 pm, you wrote:

> > 3. change your CD drive
>
> I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> 3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
>

Go ahead and give it a shot. Adding the ide-scsi stuff is ultra easy.  when 
setting up lilo add to the "append" field "hdx=ide-scsi". where hdx is your 
drive.




>> > 5. do not test
>
> So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> 8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
>
> > Warly

I suspect someone was having a really BAD day.
-- 



/.randy




[Cooker] Re: Apache-manual rpm

2002-03-04 Thread Jean-Michel Dault

On 4 Mar 2002, Quel Qun wrote:

> Did you see my post about the apache-manual rpm not creating the link
> expected by index.shtml?

Oui, je suis au courant du bug, il sera regle egalement. 

Jean-Michel

> 
> Basically, the rpm creates an apache-manual link when the index page
> sets the url to ./manual.
> 
> apache-manual-1.3.23-2mdk
> 
> J'écrirais bien en français mais je ne suis pas sûr.
> 
> Cookèrement,
> =--=
> kk1 
> 



Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Research & Development, Advanced Extranet Server 
Montreal (Canada)/Altadena (USA)/Paris (France)





Re: [Cooker] rpm -q kernel shows nothing

2002-03-04 Thread David Walluck

Steve Fox wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 07:57, François Pons wrote:
> 
>>[fpons@ackbar:~/gi/tools]
>>$ rpm -q --whatprovides kernel
>>kernel-2.4.17.16mdk-1-1mdk
>>kernel-2.4.17.6mdk-1-1mdk
>>kernel-2.4.18.2mdk-1-1mdk
>>
> 
> IMHO this is a bug. Any other package will give output without needing
> the --whatprovides flag. 
> 
> [drfickle@potat drfickle]$ rpm -q nautilus
> rnautilus-1.0.6-10mdk
> [drfickle@potat drfickle]$ rpm -q galeon
> galeon-1.0.3-3mdk
> [drfickle@potat drfickle]$ rpm -q kernel
> package kernel is not installed
> [drfickle@potat drfickle]$ 
> 
> 

It's because of the extra dashes, meanign "kernel" is not the name of 
the package but kernel-2.4.18.2mdk (apparently). I had always assumed 
they did this on purpose. This allows you to bypass RPM stupidity with 
more stupidity so you can install multiple kernels with --force.

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Re: [Cooker] rpm -q kernel shows nothing

2002-03-04 Thread Steve Fox

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 07:57, François Pons wrote:
> [fpons@ackbar:~/gi/tools]
> $ rpm -q --whatprovides kernel
> kernel-2.4.17.16mdk-1-1mdk
> kernel-2.4.17.6mdk-1-1mdk
> kernel-2.4.18.2mdk-1-1mdk

IMHO this is a bug. Any other package will give output without needing
the --whatprovides flag. 

[drfickle@potat drfickle]$ rpm -q nautilus
rnautilus-1.0.6-10mdk
[drfickle@potat drfickle]$ rpm -q galeon
galeon-1.0.3-3mdk
[drfickle@potat drfickle]$ rpm -q kernel
package kernel is not installed
[drfickle@potat drfickle]$ 

-- 

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Re: [Cooker] rpm -q kernel shows nothing

2002-03-04 Thread Steve Fox

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 09:01, Buchan Milne wrote:
> 
> The point being that if it provides the kernel, and someone does rpm 
> -Uvh, it will be a disaster for the newbie. Since it doesn't provide 
> "kernel", newbie double-clicks on the rpm, or runs rpm -Uvh kernel*.rpm 
> (thereby qualifying for the expert list ;-)) or uses MandrakeUpdate, and 
>   it now does not upgrade the kernel, since there is no kernel package. 
> So now both kernels are installed.

This has nothing to do with packages provides. This is simply a string
match for any installed package with the name format kernel-x.x.x. I can
rpm -q anypackageonmysystem and it will work for that package, except
packages named kernel-x.x.x.

It seems our fancy tools have outgrown the simple origin of rpm.

-- 

Steve Fox
http://k-lug.org





[Cooker] bootsplash questions

2002-03-04 Thread Quel Qun


Hi,

Two questions about bootsplash if you have time to answer:

1. Is there a way to leave the same background on the other consoles?

2. Can I configure the text color anywhere?

Thanks,
=--=
kk1

PS: yes and yes would be mean answers ;)





Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Leon Brooks

On Tuesday 05 March 2002 08:48, Mike Eheler wrote:
> Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
> have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
> figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
> accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
> to mount the drive.

Had this occasionally with 7.1 and I think 8.0 on some older machines. 
Generally the CD-ROM was too cheap (died when run in DA mode, I'm pretty sure 
boot is done in polled mode), if there is a kernel option for polled-mode CD 
operation, try that (F1 from the penguin screen, give elaborate LILO 
command); and also on one new Dell (or maybe it was Compaq?) where the CD-ROM 
was cable-select. Manually selecting it worked fine.

Does console 3 or 4 show you any errors?

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] install report 8.2b3 , the martian invasion

2002-03-04 Thread Levi Ramsey

On Mon Mar 04 15:50 -0700, Vincent Danen wrote:
> Apache works just *fine* without Indexes.  And because it is,
> potentially, a security hole (through inappropriate disclosure), the
> end user should be forced to enable it where appropriate... which is
> exactly the case.

Yes, but every case that I can think of where a security problem was
caused by Indexes was in reality a case of putting a sensitive file in a
web-accessible directory.  The indexing itself is not a problem, imo.

-- 
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You make the best of your situation.
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Re: [Cooker] install report 8.2b3 , the martian invasion

2002-03-04 Thread David Walser


--- Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What are you talking about?  Enabling Indexes by
> default somehow makes
> Apache work whereas having it off by default
> doesn't?

Did it ever occur to you that people use Apache for
more than serving websites?  Especially desktop users
on networks, your primary userbase?  I haven't used
floppies in all of college, I just stick files in my
public_html directory and get them when I need them, I
also use my webserver to get files to people I talk to
on the 'net.  Everybody Apache user I know (that use
it on workstations) do the same things.

> Apache works just *fine* without Indexes.  And
> because it is,
> potentially, a security hole (through inappropriate
> disclosure), the
> end user should be forced to enable it where
> appropriate... which is
> exactly the case.

It is not a security hole, and it's a joke calling it
one.  If someone's gonna put files on a public
webserver that they don't want people to get to, they
should either have to disable Indexes themselves (I
mean geez, this is a very small percentage of Apache
users, why punish everybody else?) or use htaccess
(which there's much more documentation on).

> This has absolutely nothing to do with whether
> apache works or not
> "out of the box".

It absolutely does depending on how you intend to use it.

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Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Bill Greenwood


Mike--- I suggest you burn another CD, as it looks like that one has a 
bad spot where it is trying to access that bit of information.  I 
suggest you burn it at a slower speed, possibly half the speed from your 
first one.  It may be that brand of CD-R as Warly also suggested.

Warly suggested that you do that because of the error information you 
submitted.

--Bill

===

Mike Eheler wrote:

>>1. burn a new CD
>>
>
>Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
>that I've done. None have worked.
>
>>2. try new CDR brand 
>>
>
>I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
>so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).
>
>>3. change your CD drive
>>
>
>I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
>3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
>writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
>with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
>
>>4. change your burner
>>
>
>Ha!
>
>>5. do not test
>>
>
>So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
>you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
>8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
>
>>Warly
>>
>
>Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
>have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
>figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
>accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
>to mount the drive.
>
>Mike
>
>






Re: [Cooker] KDE File Association problem?

2002-03-04 Thread Jeremy Salch

It must have just been something that got corrupt  I went into my .kde 
directory and removed the applnk-mdk directory it fixed the problem.  and it 
didn't happen with new users so i don't konw what caused it 



On Monday 04 March 2002 07:04 pm, you wrote:
> On Sunday 03 March 2002 06:02, you wrote:
> > I still with the most current kde-base and cooker can not proprely
> > open directorys on the desktop   I have to re associate them every
> > time i boot the machine.
>
> /.../
>
> Sorry, not reproducible. What happen when you create a new user?




Re: [Cooker] Konqueror question

2002-03-04 Thread SI Reasoning


--- Mathias L Bjorkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to turn off the warnings in Konqueror
> when accessing a secure site? 

yes,
in KDE Control Module, Personalization, Crypto
go to the SSL tab (generally the first one)
near the bottom of the window you will see a couple of
options:
Warn on entering SSL mode
Warn on leaving SSL mode

disable them both and that will remove the warnings.


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[Cooker] Re: is something disabling my special keys I setup in rc.local?

2002-03-04 Thread Hoyt

On Monday 04 March 2002 07:23 pm, you wrote:
> I know that rc.local is being run because the
> bootsplash is being killed properly, however by the
> time I get up to a windowmanager (fluxbox in this case
> but it hardly matters), my special keys that I had
> setup (for volume control on Dell) no longer functions
> until I rerun rc.local. What would cause them to be
> disabled or overwritten?


I "fixed" this for KDE by putting a script in ~/.kde/Autostart. Adding it to 
/etc/X11/Xmodmap was ineffective. KDE also does not like the "XF86" keysyms, 
but I understand that other windows managers do OK with them.

I also have scripts to manage other multimedia functions (called form the 
Intermet keys) that I placed in ~/bin for lack of a better place.

-- 
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http://www.maximumhoyt.com




Re: [Cooker] "i" for interactive has too small a window to activate

2002-03-04 Thread SI Reasoning


--- SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have yet to successfully find the happy spot to
> key
> in my "i" to get to interactive mode on bootup. I
> have
> found that if I space it out and hit it at least 3
> times I have the best chance. I think the window
> needs
> to be widened quite a bit for i & i.
> 
window of opportunity that is

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Re: [Cooker] more on suspend/resume problems

2002-03-04 Thread SI Reasoning

pci.agent might be the problem. I disabled network at
boot, I disabled pcmcia and network starting or
resuming within /etc/sysconfig/apm-scripts/resume.d, I
started with the pcmcia lan card not being inserted.

I inserted the card and while on console F12 and
watched the messages. Since networking was not enabled
at the time eth0 was not brought up. However it still
crashed and rebooted upon suspend/resume.

I have just about eliminated everything I could... so
it may be down to something in pci.agent. The only
thing I have been able to do so far to keep it from
not crashing is to disable pci.agent but that also
prevents it from being recognized, so I don't know how
much help that is.

hotplug-2002_01_14-3mdk
initscripts-6.40.2-34mdk
(guessing the below might have relevance...)
libnetpbm9-9.20-2mdk
net-tools-1.60-2mdk

I feel we are fairly close to resolving this
problem... if anyone has some ideas on how I can
research this better I am open.

There is a difference that might be of some help
If I have inserted the pcmcia lan card before suspend,
then the system locks up and reboots shortly after
XFree comes back up. However, if the pcmcia lan card
is inserted after a successful suspend/resume then
there is about a 1-2 minute delay between resume and
the crash and reboot. By this time all processes
associated with pci.agent, net.agent and resume.d have
been run and there is an extended quite time (on the
logs) before the crash and reboot.
Hopefully this helps some.

--- SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have reported that when pcmcia is enabled (at any
> time) if the system is suspended/resumed (or has
> been
> suspended/resumed at any time) then the computer
> will
> crash and reboot itself.
> 
> I have narrowed it down a bit. I have linked it to
> either the network card, or more likely networking
> in
> general. I have discovered that if I do not load my
> pcmcia lan card (I tried 2 different brands), then I
> do not run into the instability problem. I even had
> a
> modem in as a test (but did not run networking
> through
> it.)
> 
> However, even long after I had suspended/resumed, if
> I
> pop the lan card in, after about a minute the system
> will crash and reboot itself. During this time I
> watched the log on console F12. net.agent does its
> thing successfully and the network is brought up.
> Then
> I wait, and sure enough after a minute or two the
> computer crashes and reboots. There were no log
> messages that happened on Console F12 after
> net.agent.
> The crash happened about a minute after the last log
> message.
> 
> Is there some kind of trace I can run so that I can
> watch what is happening right before I get to the
> point where it crashes?
> 
> =
> SI Reasoning
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> A requirement of creativity is that it contributes
> to change.  Creativity keeps
> the creator alive.
> 
> -FRANK HERBERT, unpublished notes
> 
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Re: [Cooker] KDE File Association problem?

2002-03-04 Thread David BAUDENS

On Sunday 03 March 2002 06:02, you wrote:
> I still with the most current kde-base and cooker can not proprely
> open directorys on the desktop   I have to re associate them every
> time i boot the machine. 

/.../

Sorry, not reproducible. What happen when you create a new user?

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] too much i18n...

2002-03-04 Thread andre

Op di 05-03-2002, om 00:57 schreef R.I.P. Deaddog:
> On 4 Mar 2002, andre wrote:
> 
> > > There are many cases that, even though a brand name has an official
> > > translation, people just ignore the translation and uses English
> > > brand name.
> > > 
> > > On the contrary, I've seen other cases that, once a name has a
> > > translation, nobody uses the original name anymore.
> > > 
> > > What I want to express is, I believe no single party or no single
> > > person can have absolute decision on this. It depends on the
> > > all people's practice for that particular language.
> > 
> > Language is what you speak and understand. Not something that has been
> > semi-arbitrary been decided what is correct and incorrect. If you use
> > the name frozen bubble than it is the name of the game. 
> 
> Exactly -- it's the first sentence. Language is what you speak and
> understand, but it's not you to decide what others speak and
> understand. Hope you get my point -- it's really a bit semi-arbitrary,
> but once the trend comes, nobody can reverse it.
>
It is not that i or anybody else decide what is good and bad. Nobody
decides it. It just follows the change of time. It is like claiming that
c is what is in the specifications. It is not. It is what the compilers
do with the c you write that decide what c is.

> You can still argue that Frozen-bubble is still new, and
> people can still decide what it's name should be. Once
> the original name or translated name is established, nobody
> can change others' usage globally.
> 
> 

I think you are mistaken. If you see how fast the language used in
france and britain homogenised you wouldn't claim that. And that was
done without excessive force. If you give society a small nodge language
can change quite fast.




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Jeremy Salch

I have burned the CD's from Beta 1 2 & 3 and have installed systems with all 
of them.  


On Monday 04 March 2002 06:48 pm, you wrote:
> > 1. burn a new CD
>
> Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
> that I've done. None have worked.
>
> > 2. try new CDR brand
>
> I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
> so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).
>
> > 3. change your CD drive
>
> I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
> 3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
> writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
> with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.
>
> > 4. change your burner
>
> Ha!
>
> > 5. do not test
>
> So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
> you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
> 8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.
>
> > Warly
>
> Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
> have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
> figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
> accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
> to mount the drive.
>
> Mike




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Mike Eheler

> 1. burn a new CD

Pointless. This is the third set of cds (i've burned 8.2 beta 2, 3 & 4)
that I've done. None have worked.

> 2. try new CDR brand 

I'd rather not.. the cds themselves work fine if I use a different drive
so I doubt very much that it's the cdr brand (Memorex 700MB black).

> 3. change your CD drive

I can use a different drive in my machine to install.. but since I have
3 IDE hard drives, and 2 IDE cd-rom (1 rw & 1 dvd) I have to unplug the
writer to install. Doing this means that Mandrake won't set up the drive
with ide-scsi so I can burn in 8.2.

> 4. change your burner

Ha!

> 5. do not test

So this is how mandrake answers bug reports? "If it doesn't work for
you, don't bother". Makes me wonder why I bothered to purchase a boxed
8.1 and subscribe to MandrakeClub.

> Warly

Honestly, Warly. If that was all you had to say, perhaps you'd best not
have answered in the first place. Now, how about actually trying to
figure out what's wrong? Anyone? The CD seems to have no problem
accessing the drive for booting, yet once it's booted it appears unable
to mount the drive.

Mike





Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Olivier Thauvin

Le Mardi 5 Mars 2002 00:56, vous avez écrit :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("M.Demirtas") writes:
> > the fifth option is the one that I would never expect from a Mandrake
> > developer. How do you want to make this distro rock and solid if the
> > people don't test?!?!?
>
> we don't want to make it rock and solid, just have fun :)

But why do you correct security bug on the day if it is just for fun ? ;-)

>
> > On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 21:08, Warly wrote:
> > > Mike Eheler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Trying to install 8.2 beta 4, and the installer is unable to load the
> > > > second stage image (I'm pretty sure that's what it's trying to do).
> > > >
> > > > Happens after the CD boots, I hit enter and it loads the kernel and
> > > > stuff.. then normally it loads a screen that says "loading image" or
> > > > something like that with a progress bar, and a bar at the bottom that
> > > > says  for here,  for something,  for
> > > > osmething else.
> > >
> > > 1. burn a new CD
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > 2. try new CDR brand
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > 3. change your CD drive
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > 4. change your burner
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > 5. do not test
> > >
> > > --
> > > Warly

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[Cooker] "i" for interactive has too small a window to activate

2002-03-04 Thread SI Reasoning

I have yet to successfully find the happy spot to key
in my "i" to get to interactive mode on bootup. I have
found that if I space it out and hit it at least 3
times I have the best chance. I think the window needs
to be widened quite a bit for i & i.

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Re: [Cooker] word perfect 8.0

2002-03-04 Thread Blue Lizard

On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 14:02, Till Kamppeter wrote:
> 
> 
> >>No (last check anyway).  The open office rpm, and according to fcrozat
> >>as well i believe, is simply an ancient and useless relic that doesn't
> >>do anything but place the installation files.  And for a simple word
> >>processor, like wordperfect for linux or a less functional version of
> >>the one for win, i highly recommend abiword.
> 
> The OpenOffice.org RPM is now replaced by the real OpenOffice.org.641 
> and when one installs it, OpenOffice.org gets really installed. This RPM 
> was uploaded some days ago. Try another mirror if yours didn't catch it.

Ah, thanks for correcting me.  I'm quite sure that if I had a mandrake
box I would have noticed.

> 
> Till
> 
> 





[Cooker] is something disabling my special keys I setup in rc.local?

2002-03-04 Thread SI Reasoning

I know that rc.local is being run because the
bootsplash is being killed properly, however by the
time I get up to a windowmanager (fluxbox in this case
but it hardly matters), my special keys that I had
setup (for volume control on Dell) no longer functions
until I rerun rc.local. What would cause them to be
disabled or overwritten?

=
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[Cooker] 8.2 beta4

2002-03-04 Thread Gary Russell

Install went fine. Some of the sutble differences in dialog boxes are nice 
touches.

Still can not add mirror to Mandrake Update. Same error "An error occurred 
while adding this source"

I am using a Linksys BEFSR41 cable/dsl router with the latest firmware 
updates. All ports are closed. I open port 21 sometimes to run FTP Server. I 
have not had this error with earlier versions of Mandrake.

Gary Russell
Maryville, TN




Re: [Cooker] [patch] xmms.spec

2002-03-04 Thread Bryan Paxton

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 05:39, Daouda LO wrote:

> ... because we were a more lot young :) 

heh! This is true! : )

> 
> Hey, don't be silly guys! We always accept patches when they are
> relevant. For the patch on xmms.spec, gc (as the maintainer of xmms)
> have the full right to accept/reject your changes. Now he's on
> one-day-vacation that's why you received no response.
> 

I wasn't really fretting to begin with :)


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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Update

2002-03-04 Thread anyone

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Still can not add a mirror to the update. Same was with beta 2: Error adding this 
>resource.
> 
> Could be because I am behind a firewall? There are too many applications (chat and 
>video conferencing,etc) that require me to 'open' my firewall. I refuse to use 
>anything that requires it. What would be the purpose of using a firewall if I have to 
>open ports to use an application?
> 
> Gary Russell
> Maryville, TN
> --
> 
> __
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What is the purpose of inviting somebody to your house if you refuse to
open the door when the ring start ringing?
This same logic apply here.

Irek




Re: [Cooker] too much i18n...

2002-03-04 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog

On 4 Mar 2002, andre wrote:

> > There are many cases that, even though a brand name has an official
> > translation, people just ignore the translation and uses English
> > brand name.
> > 
> > On the contrary, I've seen other cases that, once a name has a
> > translation, nobody uses the original name anymore.
> > 
> > What I want to express is, I believe no single party or no single
> > person can have absolute decision on this. It depends on the
> > all people's practice for that particular language.
> 
> Language is what you speak and understand. Not something that has been
> semi-arbitrary been decided what is correct and incorrect. If you use
> the name frozen bubble than it is the name of the game. 

Exactly -- it's the first sentence. Language is what you speak and
understand, but it's not you to decide what others speak and
understand. Hope you get my point -- it's really a bit semi-arbitrary,
but once the trend comes, nobody can reverse it.

You can still argue that Frozen-bubble is still new, and
people can still decide what it's name should be. Once
the original name or translated name is established, nobody
can change others' usage globally.


> > PS Should we move this discussion to cooker-i18n?
> No.

So, everybody please don't blame me if the discussion should belong
to elsewhere.

Abel





Re: [ANGEL] [cooker is english only] Re: [Cooker] too much i18n...

2002-03-04 Thread Olivier Thauvin

Le Lundi 4 Mars 2002 23:25, vous avez écrit :

> > > Je doit avouer que bulle glacées c' est un peu excessif... Tant qu' à y
> > > être pourquoi pas civlibre et tuxcourseur ;)

> I am sorry about that, since this was a french issue and since mandrake
> is also a french company and since people who can not understand what I
> said probably do not need to understand, I did not even think about
> it... Consider my post as an empty one with a sig;)
>
> Here it is in english:
>
> I must admit that frozen bubble is a little excessive... As long as to
> be why not freeciv and tuxracer?
>
> Does it sound better?

This do not sound better but I see you win:


Name: menu Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.1.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 98mdk Build Date: Mon Mar  4 23:51:40 
2002

* Mon Mar 04 2002 David BAUDENS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.1.5-98mdk

- s/Bulles Glacées/Frozen-Bubble/

Ah ???!!! ;-) Mandrake is french but I think as you Frozen-Bubble is a better 
name. 

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Re: [Cooker] Postfix and SMTP AUTH?

2002-03-04 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Mar 04, 2002 at 07:45:36AM +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote:

> Just a short question:  Is anyone sucessfully using Postfix with SMTP
> AUTH via SASL with the current Cooker packages?

Probably not.  The permissions on sasl.db are wrong...  I reported
this a while back...  I'll hop in and fix it...  that should fix it.

As a "quick fix" you can chmod 644 /var/lib/sasl/sasl.db

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Re: [Cooker] /usr/X11R6/bin not in PATH

2002-03-04 Thread David Walluck

Garrick Staples wrote:
> It's written wrong in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.  I've reported this a
> few times already... I'm wondering why it's still broken.

Best thing to do is CC the maintainer when you first send the email. You 
can find it with rpm -qi $PACKAGE ... but there's an easier way to do 
it, I just forget.

Someone told me to look in kdmrc, but I wasn't sure what to look for ;). 
I don't get it though, how do these guys build packages and never run 
across a bug like this?

I had also suggested something like 'rpmverify' on every RPM before it 
gets mailed out. This would help a great deal as well.

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Re: [Cooker] beta4

2002-03-04 Thread Sergio Korlowsky



richard bown wrote:

>will beta 4 fit on to a 2.2.Gb HD, if stripped down ?
>richard
>
>Barely... if you sacrifice some contribs...
>
Beta-4 alone, yes..!

>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Cooker] /usr/X11R6/bin not in PATH

2002-03-04 Thread Garrick Staples

It's written wrong in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.  I've reported this a
few times already... I'm wondering why it's still broken.

On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 05:22:53PM -0500, David Walluck alleged:
> Something (possibly msec), had removed /usr/X11R6/bin from the path, so 
> that KDE would fail to start, and others would have various problems. I 
> added:
> 
> PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin
> export PATH
> 
> to /etc/X11/XSession
> 
> but I'm not sure of the right fix.
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> David Walluck
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread dams

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("M.Demirtas") writes:

> the fifth option is the one that I would never expect from a Mandrake
> developer. How do you want to make this distro rock and solid if the
> people don't test?!?!?

we don't want to make it rock and solid, just have fun :)

> 
> On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 21:08, Warly wrote:
> > Mike Eheler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Trying to install 8.2 beta 4, and the installer is unable to load the
> > > second stage image (I'm pretty sure that's what it's trying to do).
> > >
> > > Happens after the CD boots, I hit enter and it loads the kernel and
> > > stuff.. then normally it loads a screen that says "loading image" or
> > > something like that with a progress bar, and a bar at the bottom that
> > > says  for here,  for something,  for osmething
> > > else.
> > 
> > 1. burn a new CD
> > 
> > or 
> > 
> > 2. try new CDR brand 
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > 3. change your CD drive
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > 4. change your burner
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > 5. do not test
> > 
> > -- 
> > Warly
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
dam's




[Cooker] Konqueror question

2002-03-04 Thread Mathias L Bjorkman

Is there a way to turn off the warnings in Konqueror
when accessing a secure site? For example on
https://server1.hiberniaonline.com it complains about
the certificate. Also it seems to segfault when I login
into my banking site.

I will try and recreate the segfault.

/MattB





Re: [Cooker] install report 8.2b3 , the martian invasion

2002-03-04 Thread Vincent Danen

On Sat Mar 02, 2002 at 10:55:55PM -0800, David Walser wrote:

> No, not for me it's not that hard to turn on, but I
> remember the first time I used Apache, RH 5.2 days. 
> All I had to do was install it, and it was fully
> functional, it was great!  I didn't know anything
> about web servers at the time, I didn't know it would
> be that easy (thought I would have to configure it and
> stuff, not that that'd be too bad, I was configuring
> samba by hand back then).  Now think about a total
> newbie.  They install Mandrake, and Apache, and it's
> not functional.  What to do?  You even have to find
> the options in commonhttpd.conf which isn't even a
> standard thing.  Sure it wasn't that *hard* for *me*
> to do, but it still took a while to figure it out.

What are you talking about?  Enabling Indexes by default somehow makes
Apache work whereas having it off by default doesn't?

Apache works just *fine* without Indexes.  And because it is,
potentially, a security hole (through inappropriate disclosure), the
end user should be forced to enable it where appropriate... which is
exactly the case.

This has absolutely nothing to do with whether apache works or not
"out of the box".

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[Cooker] Problem with DHCP install

2002-03-04 Thread David Walluck

The DHCP network install now asks for your hostname before the install 
starts, but it does not seem to set the HOSTNAME var properly, and uses 
the one provided by DHCP instead. Apparently, this hostname is only used 
to bring up the network and not during the install. And if the network 
is already configured, it defaults to asking you not to change it (i.e. 
defaults to not setting the hostname) or changing any other nwtwork 
parameters.

-- 
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Re: [ANGEL] [cooker is english only] Re: [Cooker] too much i18n...

2002-03-04 Thread Baal

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 15:06, Warly wrote:
> Baal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 11:05, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> >> Is it *really* necessary to translate 'frozen bubble' to 'bulle glacées' in 
> >> menu :-) ?
> >> -- 
> >> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
> >
> > Je doit avouer que bulle glacées c' est un peu excessif... Tant qu' à y
> > être pourquoi pas civlibre et tuxcourseur ;)
> 
> Cooker is english only
> 
> -- 
> Warly

I am sorry about that, since this was a french issue and since mandrake
is also a french company and since people who can not understand what I
said probably do not need to understand, I did not even think about
it... Consider my post as an empty one with a sig;)

Here it is in english:

I must admit that frozen bubble is a little excessive... As long as to
be why not freeciv and tuxracer?

Does it sound better?






[Cooker] kernel-2.4.18.3mdk-1-1mdk fixes XFS problems

2002-03-04 Thread David Walluck

Subject says it all, but it may appear again who knows? :P

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David Walluck
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Re: [Cooker] too much i18n...

2002-03-04 Thread andre

Op ma 04-03-2002, om 19:06 schreef R.I.P. Deaddog:
> On 4 Mar 2002, andre wrote:
> 
> > > > Is it *really* necessary to translate 'frozen bubble' to 'bulle glacées' in 
> > > > menu :-) ?
> > > 
> > > That really depends on the translator's taste or translation
> > > team's policy. If you really dislike it, you can talk to the
> > > translator of menu-messages.
> > > 
> > Names shouldn be translated. morte chien
> 
> Again, this also depends.
> 
> There are many cases that, even though a brand name has an official
> translation, people just ignore the translation and uses English
> brand name.
> 
> On the contrary, I've seen other cases that, once a name has a
> translation, nobody uses the original name anymore.
> 
> What I want to express is, I believe no single party or no single
> person can have absolute decision on this. It depends on the
> all people's practice for that particular language.

Language is what you speak and understand. Not something that has been
semi-arbitrary been decided what is correct and incorrect. If you use
the name frozen bubble than it is the name of the game. 

> 
> Abel
> 
> PS Should we move this discussion to cooker-i18n?
> 
No.




Re: [Cooker] beta4

2002-03-04 Thread Levi Ramsey

On Mon Mar 04 22:25 +, richard bown wrote:
> will beta 4 fit on to a 2.2.Gb HD, if stripped down ?
> richard

I seem to remember that 8.2 will have a 65MB minimal install (kernel,
glibc, gcc, & bash, maybe?).

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[Cooker] /usr/X11R6/bin not in PATH

2002-03-04 Thread David Walluck

Something (possibly msec), had removed /usr/X11R6/bin from the path, so 
that KDE would fail to start, and others would have various problems. I 
added:

PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin
export PATH

to /etc/X11/XSession

but I'm not sure of the right fix.

-- 
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David Walluck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Re: [Fwd: Re: [Plf-discuss] Fwd: [Cooker] plf forbids me to get src files!]

2002-03-04 Thread Jean-Michel Dault


Guillaume, excellent suggestion you had on permissions. I will put them in
the new Apache version.

Thanks!

Jean-Michel

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Plf-discuss] Fwd: [Cooker] plf forbids me to get src
> files!
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:12:08 +0100
> From: Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: Université Pierre & Marie Curie
> To: Yves Duret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Ainsi parlait Yves Duret :
> > Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Folks, this problem has still not been solved (see my previous forwarding
> > > of Oden's message for details).
> > >
> > > PS: please use plf-discuss for plf problems :-)
> >
> > sorry for the delay...
> > as i am not an apache specialist, can someone point me to the good option ?
> > i actually by default
> > 
> > Options FollowSymLinks
> > AllowOverride None
> > 
> >
> > i try to play with
> > 
> >allow from all
> > 
> > in the vhost config but it does seems to work..
> > any idea ?
> I'd say instead :
> 
>   Options +Indexes
> 
> -> indexes are allowed in /home/plf/www/rpm only
> 
> "Allow from" directive is about access right, and should be preceded by 
> "Order" directive
> 
> Question for Christian:
> - why isn't a deny from all directive for / directory ?
> - why isn't all options explicitely disabled in / directory ?
> I'd used instead:
> 
>   Options -All -Multiviews
>   AllowOverride None
>   Order deny,allow
>   Deny from all
> 
> -- 
> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
> 



Jean-Michel Dault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Research & Development, Advanced Extranet Server 
Montreal (Canada)/Altadena (USA)/Paris (France)






Re: [Cooker] libwmf not obsoleting previous version

2002-03-04 Thread Brad Felmey

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 14:09, Warly wrote:
> Brad Felmey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 06:18, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> >
> >> Brad Felmey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Installing libwmf0.2_2-02.2-1mdk does not remove prior version:
> >> > 
> >> > $ rpm -qa | grep libwmf0.2
> >> > 
> >> > libwmf0.2_1-0.2.1-1mdk
> >> > libwmf0.2_2-0.2.2-1mdk
> >> 
> >> That's the point of the "new lib policy".
> >
> > So we just get more and more and more libs forever? Is this why I have
> > to keep manually uninstalling libfoo18-devel packages whenever I need to
> > -Uvh libfoo19-devel? Surely something more elegant can be conceived.
> 
> What do you propose?

The main problem seems to be that some closed-source products break when
certain libraries are superseded. The two main ones I can think of
offhand are QT and libc. Okay, so make exceptions for such high-profile
libs, but I truly don't see the benefit to keeping 21 versions of libgal
(or whatever number it's up to now), and other such mindless
accumulation of packages as a general rule.
-- 
Brad Felmey





[Cooker] beta4

2002-03-04 Thread richard bown

will beta 4 fit on to a 2.2.Gb HD, if stripped down ?
richard







Re: [Cooker] Diffrence between libqt 2.2 libqt 2.3 when compiling programs

2002-03-04 Thread Levi Ramsey

On Mon Mar 04 15:24 -0600, Mathias L Bjorkman wrote:
> Yes i just tried it and it compiled just fine with 2.96.
> 
> Seems there are issues between Gcc 3 and Qt

The issues do not exist between gcc-3 and Qt per se.  The problem is
that gcc-3 uses a different abi (the name mangling that is needed for
C++) than gcc-2.96.  Thus, compiling a Qt program will generate calls to
functions that will not be present in a Qt compiled with 2.96.  If you
compile Qt (and any other C++ libraries you need) with gcc-3, there will
be no problems.

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Re: [ANGEL] [cooker is english only] Re: [Cooker] too much i18n...

2002-03-04 Thread andre

Op ma 04-03-2002, om 21:06 schreef Warly:
> Baal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 11:05, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> >> Is it *really* necessary to translate 'frozen bubble' to 'bulle glacées' in 
> >> menu :-) ?
> >> -- 
> >> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
> >
> > Je doit avouer que bulle glacées c' est un peu excessif... Tant qu' à y
> > être pourquoi pas civlibre et tuxcourseur ;)
> 
> Cooker is english only
> 
> -- 
> Warly

The language used on the cooker list should be understandable by anybody
who understand english and linux well. I would argue that anybody
understands those french lines. Maybe not the words but certainly it's
meaning.




Re: [Cooker] Diffrence between libqt 2.2 libqt 2.3 when compiling programs

2002-03-04 Thread Jeremy Salch

Yea I think QT needs to be compiled with 3.0 and then it will all work..   
but that is a guess


On Monday 04 March 2002 03:24 pm, you wrote:
> Yes i just tried it and it compiled just fine with 2.96.
>
> Seems there are issues between Gcc 3 and Qt
>
> /MattB
>
> On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 14:57, Jeremy Salch wrote:
> > Do you have GCC 2.96 installed ?  I had a similar problem with a
> > different program and after installing gcc 2.96 it made it work
> >
> > On Monday 04 March 2002 02:42 pm, you wrote:
> > > Is there any major diffrences between libqt 2.2 and libqt 2.3?
> > >
> > > About a week or so ago I could not compile Mosfet's liquid anymore.
> > >
> > > The crash line says
> > >
> > > checking for QT... configure: error: Qt ( >= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not
> > > found.
> > >
> > > the config.log says...
> > >
> > > This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
> > > running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.
> > > configure:5393: checking for Qt
> > > tried NO
> > > configure:5552: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions
> > > -fno-check-new -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
> > > -L/usr/lib/qt2/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib  conftest.C  -lqt -lpng -lz -lm
> > > -ljpeg -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE  1>&5 /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o: In function
> > > `main': /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x41): undefined reference to
> > > `QString::shared_null' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference
> > > to
> > > `QIconView::QIconView(QWidget*, char const*, unsigned)'
> > > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x84): undefined reference to
> > > `QIconView::setWordWrapIconText(bool)' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x89):
> > > undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
> > > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xa9): undefined reference to
> > > `QString::setLatin1(char const*, int)'
> > > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xbe): undefined reference to
> > > `QString::shared_null' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xc9): undefined reference
> > > to
> > > `QStringData::deleteSelf()' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xdb): undefined
> > > reference to `QIconView::~QIconView()' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xf2):
> > > undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
> > > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x101): undefined reference to
> > > `QString::makeSharedNull()'
> > > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x108): undefined reference to
> > > `QString::makeSharedNull()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > > configure: failed program was:
> > > #include "confdefs.h"
> > > #include 
> > > #include 
> > > #include 
> > > #include 
> > > #include 
> > > #include 
> > > #if ! (QT_VERSION >= 222)
> > > #error 1
> > > #endif
> > >
> > > int main() {
> > > QStringList *t = new QStringList();
> > > QIconView iv(0);
> > > iv.setWordWrapIconText(false);
> > > QString s;
> > > s.setLatin1("Elvis is alive", 14);
> > > int magnolia = QEvent::Speech; /* new in 2.2 beta2 */
> > > return 0;
> > > }
> > >
> > > Like i said.. it worked just a week or two ago with Cooker. But now it
> > > won't even finish ./configure
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > /MattB




Re: [Cooker] wish: gettext 0.11

2002-03-04 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog

On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote:

> > > The gettext version delivered with beta3 was 0.10.40
> > > It would be nice if the new gettext version was delivered instead.
> > > The recent version is 0.11.something, pablo would know more.
> > 
> > I guess nobody would like such change in cooker. The major
> > number of libintl.so has changed in gettext 0.11 (libintl.so.2).
> 
> Could it be optional, then? At some time we need to go forward.
> It might be too big a chenge now.

After 8.2 is out, I guess.

> > But I must say that gettext 0.11 has many sweet additions compared
> > with gettext 0.10.x.
> 
> yes, that was what I was thinking of.

Just packaged it, under
http://cle.org.hk/~baddog/files/Mandrake/modified-packages/gettext-0.11-1mdk.src.rpm
You may give it a try :)

Abel





Re: [Cooker] Diffrence between libqt 2.2 libqt 2.3 when compilingprograms

2002-03-04 Thread Mathias L Bjorkman

Yes i just tried it and it compiled just fine with 2.96.

Seems there are issues between Gcc 3 and Qt

/MattB

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 14:57, Jeremy Salch wrote:
> Do you have GCC 2.96 installed ?  I had a similar problem with a different 
> program and after installing gcc 2.96 it made it work
> 
> 
> On Monday 04 March 2002 02:42 pm, you wrote:
> > Is there any major diffrences between libqt 2.2 and libqt 2.3?
> >
> > About a week or so ago I could not compile Mosfet's liquid anymore.
> >
> > The crash line says
> >
> > checking for QT... configure: error: Qt ( >= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not
> > found.
> >
> > the config.log says...
> >
> > This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
> > running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.
> > configure:5393: checking for Qt
> > tried NO
> > configure:5552: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions
> > -fno-check-new -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  
> > -L/usr/lib/qt2/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib  conftest.C  -lqt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg 
> > -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE  1>&5 /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o: In function `main':
> > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x41): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
> > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference to
> > `QIconView::QIconView(QWidget*, char const*, unsigned)'
> > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x84): undefined reference to
> > `QIconView::setWordWrapIconText(bool)' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x89):
> > undefined reference to `QString::shared_null' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xa9):
> > undefined reference to `QString::setLatin1(char const*, int)'
> > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xbe): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
> > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xc9): undefined reference to
> > `QStringData::deleteSelf()' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xdb): undefined
> > reference to `QIconView::~QIconView()' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xf2):
> > undefined reference to `QString::shared_null' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x101):
> > undefined reference to `QString::makeSharedNull()'
> > /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x108): undefined reference to
> > `QString::makeSharedNull()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > configure: failed program was:
> > #include "confdefs.h"
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #if ! (QT_VERSION >= 222)
> > #error 1
> > #endif
> >
> > int main() {
> > QStringList *t = new QStringList();
> > QIconView iv(0);
> > iv.setWordWrapIconText(false);
> > QString s;
> > s.setLatin1("Elvis is alive", 14);
> > int magnolia = QEvent::Speech; /* new in 2.2 beta2 */
> > return 0;
> > }
> >
> > Like i said.. it worked just a week or two ago with Cooker. But now it
> > won't even finish ./configure
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > /MattB
> 






Re: [Cooker] WordPerfect, Matlab, etc.8

2002-03-04 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 22:13:55 +0100
"Giuseppe Ghibo'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> 
> Do you have the LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to somewhere? Can you also try the attached 
>script
> to call WP8? Of course setting the path to the path where you installed WP8. Do you 
>have
> other libc5 based application working like that?
> 
> Bye.
> Giuseppe.
> 
> Can you also try the attached ld-linux.so.1.9.11 library? [it could be a compiler 
>problem].

I will give that a shot tomorrow.
Thanks.

Which 7.0 set did WP come on.
I have 7.0 Complete around somewhere, but would like to know if it is worth trying to 
find them.


Charles




Re: [Cooker] Cant compile anything that needs Qt

2002-03-04 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne

On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, pascal wrote:

> I do not understand.
> where is the eventual bug, in qt 2.3, in gcc3.0 ?
> Any similar experiences and misfortune  with other distro and ( qt2.3 +
> gcc3.0 )?

Not a bug. gcc-"2.96" and gcc-3.0.4 does not have the same ABI for C++
code.  That means that if you want to build a C++ application with gcc3,
you must make sure to rebuild all other libraries it may depend on but
with gcc3 too.

Bye,
Gwenole.





Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread M.Demirtas

the fifth option is the one that I would never expect from a Mandrake
developer. How do you want to make this distro rock and solid if the
people don't test?!?!?

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 21:08, Warly wrote:
> Mike Eheler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Trying to install 8.2 beta 4, and the installer is unable to load the
> > second stage image (I'm pretty sure that's what it's trying to do).
> >
> > Happens after the CD boots, I hit enter and it loads the kernel and
> > stuff.. then normally it loads a screen that says "loading image" or
> > something like that with a progress bar, and a bar at the bottom that
> > says  for here,  for something,  for osmething
> > else.
> 
> 1. burn a new CD
> 
> or 
> 
> 2. try new CDR brand 
> 
> or
> 
> 3. change your CD drive
> 
> or
> 
> 4. change your burner
> 
> or
> 
> 5. do not test
> 
> -- 
> Warly
> 







Re: [Cooker] MCC Still Broken!

2002-03-04 Thread M.Demirtas

I get still the same error :(


On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 13:12, dams wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("M.Demirtas") writes:
> 
> > In the newest verseion of drakconf Software Manager refuses to
> > start.Hier is the error log:
> > 
> > Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 561,  line 3.
> 
> corrected, thanks.
> 
> > 
> > Please before that you make a package test it yourself first. I mean,
> > this is obvious that it does give errors..
> 
> ...
> 
> -- 
> dam's
> 







Re: [Cooker] Diffrence between libqt 2.2 libqt 2.3 when compiling programs

2002-03-04 Thread Jeremy Salch

Do you have GCC 2.96 installed ?  I had a similar problem with a different 
program and after installing gcc 2.96 it made it work


On Monday 04 March 2002 02:42 pm, you wrote:
> Is there any major diffrences between libqt 2.2 and libqt 2.3?
>
> About a week or so ago I could not compile Mosfet's liquid anymore.
>
> The crash line says
>
> checking for QT... configure: error: Qt ( >= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not
> found.
>
> the config.log says...
>
> This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
> running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.
> configure:5393: checking for Qt
> tried NO
> configure:5552: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions
> -fno-check-new -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  
> -L/usr/lib/qt2/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib  conftest.C  -lqt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg 
> -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE  1>&5 /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o: In function `main':
> /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x41): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
> /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference to
> `QIconView::QIconView(QWidget*, char const*, unsigned)'
> /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x84): undefined reference to
> `QIconView::setWordWrapIconText(bool)' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x89):
> undefined reference to `QString::shared_null' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xa9):
> undefined reference to `QString::setLatin1(char const*, int)'
> /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xbe): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
> /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xc9): undefined reference to
> `QStringData::deleteSelf()' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xdb): undefined
> reference to `QIconView::~QIconView()' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xf2):
> undefined reference to `QString::shared_null' /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x101):
> undefined reference to `QString::makeSharedNull()'
> /tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x108): undefined reference to
> `QString::makeSharedNull()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> configure: failed program was:
> #include "confdefs.h"
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #if ! (QT_VERSION >= 222)
> #error 1
> #endif
>
> int main() {
> QStringList *t = new QStringList();
> QIconView iv(0);
> iv.setWordWrapIconText(false);
> QString s;
> s.setLatin1("Elvis is alive", 14);
> int magnolia = QEvent::Speech; /* new in 2.2 beta2 */
> return 0;
> }
>
> Like i said.. it worked just a week or two ago with Cooker. But now it
> won't even finish ./configure
>
> Any ideas?
>
> /MattB




Re: [Cooker] Cant compile anything that needs Qt

2002-03-04 Thread Jeremy Salch

Yea that fixed it. i installed gcc 2.96 and it now works



On Monday 04 March 2002 02:18 pm, you wrote:
> Le Samedi 02 Mars 2002 22:44, vous avez écrit :
> > No matter what program I try to compile that needs Qt i get the following
> >
> >
> > checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not
> > found. Please check your installation!
> > For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
> >
> >
> >
> > and in the config log it shows me
> >
> >
> > configure:5271: checking for Qt
> > tried NO
> > configure:5432: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions
> > -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes
> > -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -Wnon-virtual-dtor -fno-builtin
> > -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include   -L/usr/lib/qt2/lib
> > -L/usr/X11R6/lib  conftest.C  -lqt  -ljpeg  -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE  1>&5
> > conftest.C: In function `int main()':
> > conftest.C:15: warning: unused variable `QStringList*t'
> > conftest.C:20: warning: unused variable `int magnolia'
> > /tmp/ccrphGpY.o: In function `main':
> > /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x41): undefined reference to
> > `QString::shared_null' /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference
> > to
> > `QIconView::QIconView(QWidget*, char const*, unsigned)'
> > /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x84): undefined reference to
> > `QIconView::setWordWrapIconText(bool)'
> > /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x89): undefined reference to
> > `QString::shared_null' /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xa9): undefined reference
> > to
> > `QString::setLatin1(char const*, int)'
> > /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xbe): undefined reference to
> > `QString::shared_null' /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xc9): undefined reference
> > to
> > `QStringData::deleteSelf()'
> > /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xdb): undefined reference to
> > `QIconView::~QIconView()' /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xf2): undefined
> > reference to `QString::shared_null' /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x101):
> > undefined reference to
> > `QString::makeSharedNull()'
> > /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x108): undefined reference to
> > `QString::makeSharedNull()'
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > configure: failed program was:
> > #include "confdefs.h"
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #if ! (QT_VERSION >= 222)
> > #error 1
> > #endif
> >
> > int main() {
> > QStringList *t = new QStringList();
> > QIconView iv(0);
> > iv.setWordWrapIconText(false);
> > QString s;
> > s.setLatin1("Elvis is alive", 14);
> > int magnolia = QEvent::Speech; /* new in 2.2 beta2 */
> > return 0;
> > }
> >
> >
> > I have qt installed and libqt-devel.
> >
> > I don't understand why it doesn't work   anyone have and ideas ?/
>
> That is a problem for me since mdk 8.1 if I use gcc3.0
> Only find one way : eradication of gcc3.0, using gcc2.96 ...
> But it's not satisfaisant
>
> I do not understand.
> where is the eventual bug, in qt 2.3, in gcc3.0 ?
> Any similar experiences and misfortune  with other distro and ( qt2.3 +
> gcc3.0 )?
>
> Pascal LACROIX




Re: [Cooker] wish: gettext 0.11

2002-03-04 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen

On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:57:15AM +0800, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Keld [iso-8859-1] J?rn Simonsen wrote:
> 
> > The gettext version delivered with beta3 was 0.10.40
> > It would be nice if the new gettext version was delivered instead.
> > The recent version is 0.11.something, pablo would know more.
> > 
> > keld
> 
> I guess nobody would like such change in cooker. The major
> number of libintl.so has changed in gettext 0.11 (libintl.so.2).

Could it be optional, then? At some time we need to go forward.
It might be too big a chenge now.

> But I must say that gettext 0.11 has many sweet additions compared
> with gettext 0.10.x.

yes, that was what I was thinking of.

Keld




[Cooker] Diffrence between libqt 2.2 libqt 2.3 when compiling programs

2002-03-04 Thread Mathias L Bjorkman

Is there any major diffrences between libqt 2.2 and libqt 2.3?

About a week or so ago I could not compile Mosfet's liquid anymore.

The crash line says

checking for QT... configure: error: Qt ( >= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not
found.

the config.log says...

This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.
configure:5393: checking for Qt
tried NO
configure:5552: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new 
-I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include   -L/usr/lib/qt2/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib  
conftest.C  -lqt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg  -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE  1>&5
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o: In function `main':
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x41): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference to `QIconView::QIconView(QWidget*, 
char const*, unsigned)'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x84): undefined reference to 
`QIconView::setWordWrapIconText(bool)'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x89): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xa9): undefined reference to `QString::setLatin1(char const*, 
int)'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xbe): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xc9): undefined reference to `QStringData::deleteSelf()'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xdb): undefined reference to `QIconView::~QIconView()'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0xf2): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x101): undefined reference to `QString::makeSharedNull()'
/tmp/cc8lkCrr.o(.text+0x108): undefined reference to `QString::makeSharedNull()'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#include "confdefs.h"
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#if ! (QT_VERSION >= 222)
#error 1
#endif

int main() {
QStringList *t = new QStringList();
QIconView iv(0);
iv.setWordWrapIconText(false);
QString s;
s.setLatin1("Elvis is alive", 14);
int magnolia = QEvent::Speech; /* new in 2.2 beta2 */
return 0;
}

Like i said.. it worked just a week or two ago with Cooker. But now it won't even 
finish ./configure

Any ideas?

/MattB





Re: [Cooker] Cant compile anything that needs Qt

2002-03-04 Thread pascal

Le Samedi 02 Mars 2002 22:44, vous avez écrit :
> No matter what program I try to compile that needs Qt i get the following
>
>
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not
> found. Please check your installation!
> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
>
>
>
> and in the config log it shows me
>
>
> configure:5271: checking for Qt
> tried NO
> configure:5432: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions
> -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes
> -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -Wnon-virtual-dtor -fno-builtin
> -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include   -L/usr/lib/qt2/lib
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib  conftest.C  -lqt  -ljpeg  -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE  1>&5
> conftest.C: In function `int main()':
> conftest.C:15: warning: unused variable `QStringList*t'
> conftest.C:20: warning: unused variable `int magnolia'
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o: In function `main':
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x41): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x74): undefined reference to
> `QIconView::QIconView(QWidget*, char const*, unsigned)'
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x84): undefined reference to
> `QIconView::setWordWrapIconText(bool)'
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x89): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xa9): undefined reference to
> `QString::setLatin1(char const*, int)'
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xbe): undefined reference to `QString::shared_null'
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xc9): undefined reference to
> `QStringData::deleteSelf()'
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xdb): undefined reference to
> `QIconView::~QIconView()' /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0xf2): undefined reference
> to `QString::shared_null' /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x101): undefined reference
> to
> `QString::makeSharedNull()'
> /tmp/ccrphGpY.o(.text+0x108): undefined reference to
> `QString::makeSharedNull()'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> configure: failed program was:
> #include "confdefs.h"
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> #if ! (QT_VERSION >= 222)
> #error 1
> #endif
>
> int main() {
> QStringList *t = new QStringList();
> QIconView iv(0);
> iv.setWordWrapIconText(false);
> QString s;
> s.setLatin1("Elvis is alive", 14);
> int magnolia = QEvent::Speech; /* new in 2.2 beta2 */
> return 0;
> }
>
>
> I have qt installed and libqt-devel.
>
> I don't understand why it doesn't work   anyone have and ideas ?/

That is a problem for me since mdk 8.1 if I use gcc3.0 
Only find one way : eradication of gcc3.0, using gcc2.96 ...
But it's not satisfaisant

I do not understand.
where is the eventual bug, in qt 2.3, in gcc3.0 ?
Any similar experiences and misfortune  with other distro and ( qt2.3 + 
gcc3.0 )?

Pascal LACROIX




Re: [Cooker] clipboard

2002-03-04 Thread Levi Ramsey

On Mon Mar 04 12:55 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I find it very frustrating that the clipboard is very inconsist across the
> board as to which programs use it and which don't. Is that a KDE problem
> or individual app problem?

This has been an X issue for years.  It really comes down to which
toolkits are being used by the applications.  Interoperability between
Qt/KDE apps and Gtk/GNOME apps is coming along, though.  Eventually,
this will be fixed...

-- 
Levi Ramsey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

When it comes down to desperation,
You make the best of your situation.
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[Cooker] kde3.0 release candidate1 is out

2002-03-04 Thread Cosmic Flo

Cool !

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Re: [Cooker] file corruption w/ journaled file systems (was: strange kernel compile issues)

2002-03-04 Thread Levi Ramsey

On Mon Mar 04  9:38 -0700, Dean Brissinger wrote:
>   After doing my best to break the journaling file systems I have
> determined that XFS and ReiserFS are the two more reliable and fast
> solutions.  I corrupted both JFS and EXT3 to the point I could no longer
> boot.  My test was to bring the system down dirty repeatedly without
> performing a consistency check on boot.   In beta3 ReiserFS and XFS are
> more durable.  XFS is a pretty slow file system unless you're working
> with BIG files.  Reiser does better with lots of small files (a tad
> slower than ext3, but worth it).
> 
>   I managed to ruin and XFS filesystem as shipped with 8.1.  The kernel
> patches from SGI are pretty good on a raw kernel or RedHat kernel (I
> haven't broken it in such cases).  I assume XFS has been upgraded in the
> 2.4.17+ mdk kernels (haven't looked).
> 
>   Has anyone published current tests on the file systems on Linux for
> durability and speed?  My test is hardly comprehensive.

I seem to remember a post to Slashdot in the spring of 2001 that
benchmarked the different journaling fs's.  I think there's been at
least one Ask Slashdot on which one is the best, also.

-- 
Levi Ramsey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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You make the best of your situation.
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[Cooker] libmosix is corrupted in cooker contrib

2002-03-04 Thread Cosmic Flo

Libmos.so.0 is missing in the package.

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Re: [Cooker] libwmf not obsoleting previous version

2002-03-04 Thread Warly

Brad Felmey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 06:18, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>
>> Brad Felmey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> > Installing libwmf0.2_2-02.2-1mdk does not remove prior version:
>> > 
>> > $ rpm -qa | grep libwmf0.2
>> > 
>> > libwmf0.2_1-0.2.1-1mdk
>> > libwmf0.2_2-0.2.2-1mdk
>> 
>> That's the point of the "new lib policy".
>
> So we just get more and more and more libs forever? Is this why I have
> to keep manually uninstalling libfoo18-devel packages whenever I need to
> -Uvh libfoo19-devel? Surely something more elegant can be conceived.

What do you propose?

-- 
Warly




Re: [Cooker] WordPerfect, Matlab, etc.8

2002-03-04 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 20:09:16 +0100
"Giuseppe Ghibo'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Charles A Edwards wrote:
> 
> > > and if needed:
> > >
> > >   libc-extras-5.3.12-36mdk.i586.rpm
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > I still get segfaults even after installing ld.so1-1.9.11-7 on a system with WP8 
>already installed.
> 
> you mean on ldconfig %post script or after running xwp?

After running ./xwp

> 
> What strace does give?

[root@localhost charles]# strace /usr/wp/wpbin/xwp
execve("/usr/wp/wpbin/xwp", ["/usr/wp/wpbin/xwp"], [/* 55 vars */]) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x40007000
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

> 
> What /etc/ld.so.preload contains?

I have no /etc/ld.so.preload on this system only ld.so.cache and ld.so.conf

On the system where the WP installer would not run ld.so.preload is empty.

> 
> To me it start flawlessly (I can't test the installer because I don't know
> where to dowload XWP). I've just the packaged RPM of MDK7.0

I am using the retail CD which might account for some of the difficulty.
 


Charles




Re: [Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Warly

Mike Eheler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Trying to install 8.2 beta 4, and the installer is unable to load the
> second stage image (I'm pretty sure that's what it's trying to do).
>
> Happens after the CD boots, I hit enter and it loads the kernel and
> stuff.. then normally it loads a screen that says "loading image" or
> something like that with a progress bar, and a bar at the bottom that
> says  for here,  for something,  for osmething
> else.

1. burn a new CD

or 

2. try new CDR brand 

or

3. change your CD drive

or

4. change your burner

or

5. do not test

-- 
Warly




[ANGEL] [cooker is english only] Re: [Cooker] too much i18n...

2002-03-04 Thread Warly

Baal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 11:05, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
>> Is it *really* necessary to translate 'frozen bubble' to 'bulle glacées' in 
>> menu :-) ?
>> -- 
>> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
>
> Je doit avouer que bulle glacées c' est un peu excessif... Tant qu' à y
> être pourquoi pas civlibre et tuxcourseur ;)

Cooker is english only

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Gnome/Desktop mouse settings

2002-03-04 Thread Edward Tandi

OK Andre,

Thanks for the work-around, but it is a bug in Gnome that should be 
fixed. You will no doubt see more complaints as mouse settings are 
extremely user-facing.

Now off to find those XF86Config-4 settings whatever they may be...

Ed-T.


andre wrote:

>Op ma 04-03-2002, om 00:58 schreef Edward Tandi: andre wrote:
>
>Op zo 03-03-2002, om 19:35 schreef Edward Tandi:
>
>All,
>
>I have a minor niggle with the mouse speed settings using 
>Gnome/Enlightenment. Because I use a high resolution, I need to increse 
>the mouse speed to maximum to be able to cover the whole screen 
>relatively easily.
>
>However, although the setting itself is kept, it is not actioned the 
>next time I log in. So I have to open the Gnome configuration tool and 
>re-apply the changes every session.
>
>Does anyone know of a fix? Thanks,
>
>Ed-T.
>
>
>Isn't there a setting in XF86Config-4 that you have to change (and
>probably add) to get a speedier mouse
>
>That's not the point. If you have a GUI configuration tool to set mouse
>speed, I shouldn't have to poke around in  XF86Config-4.
>
>Ed-T.
>
>
>Yes, you do. gnome is for individual user. XF86Config-4 is for everybody
>who uses the system and everybody that uses your system(that is probably
>only you) needs a speeder mouse
>



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Re: [Cooker] beta4

2002-03-04 Thread Oden Eriksson

On 4 Mar 2002, at 10:01, Ben Reser wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:46:12PM +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > Is this an announcement of b4?
> 
> Must be since I have beta4 cds on my mirror.
> Looks like I got it around 22:00 PST last night.

Cool, then I must be running b4 then... (I didn't know that :))
--

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[Cooker] beta4

2002-03-04 Thread richard bown

H, is this going to be another example of cyber-hermitry.?
What is the point of having a configurable firewall and configurable
levels of MSEC , when Mandrake's cyber-hermit wont allow any incomming
packets from the outside ?

HINT !!!

br richard







Re: [Cooker] too much i18n...

2002-03-04 Thread Baal

On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 11:05, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> Is it *really* necessary to translate 'frozen bubble' to 'bulle glacées' in 
> menu :-) ?
> -- 
> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html

Je doit avouer que bulle glacées c' est un peu excessif... Tant qu' à y
être pourquoi pas civlibre et tuxcourseur ;)





[Cooker] 8.2 Beta 4 is out

2002-03-04 Thread Luc Roseberry

8.2 Beta 4 is out
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[Cooker] Problems installing 8.2 beta 4

2002-03-04 Thread Mike Eheler

Hi,

Trying to install 8.2 beta 4, and the installer is unable to load the
second stage image (I'm pretty sure that's what it's trying to do).

Happens after the CD boots, I hit enter and it loads the kernel and
stuff.. then normally it loads a screen that says "loading image" or
something like that with a progress bar, and a bar at the bottom that
says  for here,  for something,  for osmething
else.

Basically it sits there for a while then gives me a dialog box saying it
had trouble accessing the image and if I wanted to try again. If I say
yes it just repeats itself after some time.

Here's some info I pulled off of the Alt-F3 screen:

* IDE/0: hdd is a PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1610A
* mounting /dev/hdd on /tmp/image as type iso9660
* have to insmod isofs
* needs isofs
*   succeeded isofs
* mount failed: Not a directory

And here's some info I pulled off of the Alt-F4 screen:

<4>hdd: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM CD-RW drive, 2048kB cache, DMA
<4>Interlaced files not (yet) supported.
<4>File unit size != 0 for ISO file (75776)
<4>Warning: defective CD-ROM (volume sequence number 20047). Enabling
"cruft" mount option.
<4>hdd: drive not ready for command.
<4>hdd: status timeout: status=0xd0 (busy)
<4>hdd: DMA disabled
<4>hdd: drive not ready for command.
<4>hdd: ATAPI reset complete
<4>hdd: irq timeout: status=0x80 (busy)
<4>hdd: ATAPI reset complete
<4>hdd: irq timeout: status=0x80 (busy)
<6>end_request: I/O error, dev 16:40 (hdd), sector 0

Mike
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Re: [Cooker] WordPerfect, Matlab, etc.8

2002-03-04 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 14:12:00 +0100
"Giuseppe Ghibo'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok, it seems the problem causing segfaulting of WordPerfect, etc.
> it's a zero-length /etc/ld.so.preload file placed there by some 8.0/8.1 script.
> I just uploaded to cooker a patched ld.so1-1.9.11-6mdk.i586.rpm so
> it doesn't segfault with a zero length ld.so.preload
> (well, maybe it still could choke with libsafe preloaded in
> /etc/ld.so.preload, not yet tested myself).
> 
> So, to use libc5 based applications such as Word Perfect 8,
> you should install these packages:
> 
>   ld.so1-1.9.11-6mdk.i586.rpm
>   libc-base-5.3.12-36mdk.i586.rpm
> 
> and if needed:
> 
>   libc-extras-5.3.12-36mdk.i586.rpm
> 
 

I still get segfaults even after installing ld.so1-1.9.11-7 on a system with WP8 
already installed.

On a clean system (WP8 never before installed) with ld.so1-1.9.11-7, 
libc-base-5.3.12-3, and libc-extras-5.3.12-36 WP graphical installer will not run.


Charles  




Re: [Cooker] ssh and hostnames

2002-03-04 Thread Brad Felmey

On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 08:26, Robert Fox wrote:

> The hostname on the machine is automagically picked for me during the
> latest install - and here's what I get when I try to connect from
> another machine:
> 
> 
> [robert@amda7v robert]$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Warning: Permanently added '192.168.1.100' (RSA) to the list of known
> hosts.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
> Permission denied, please try again.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
> Last login: Fri Mar  1 00:14:03 2002
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: (stdin):1:  bad display name
> "localhost.BS1.srv.t-online.de:10.0" in "add" command
> [root@localhost root]#

I can confirm this behavior on 3 different machines updated to current
ssh rpms, using either IP or hostname, it makes no difference.
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] beta4

2002-03-04 Thread Olivier Thauvin

Le Lundi 4 Mars 2002 19:10, vous avez écrit :
> Le Lundi 4 Mars 2002 19:01, Ben Reser a écrit :
> > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:46:12PM +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> > > Is this an announcement of b4?
> >
> > Must be since I have beta4 cds on my mirror.
> > Looks like I got it around 22:00 PST last night.
>
> Where is your mirror (not listed in MDK's lists ?)
> Stef

carroll.cac.psu.edu is my mirror and I have beta4's Cd since last nigth.
I 'm using rsync but this mirror accept ftp connexion !

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[Cooker] vserver patches

2002-03-04 Thread Dean Brissinger

Has anyone tried using the vserver patches:

http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc

on a Mandrake kernel?  I want to use Mandrake for BSD-like virtual
private servers without the speed penalty of emulation (vmware, etc.). 
The patch fails on 2.4.18-2mdk which isn't a big supprise because it's a
2.4.17 patch.

Is there already support for this type of virtual private server in
Mandrake I don't know of?  I have a crazy idea of building a virtual
private server environment and then scaling this environment infinatly
using Linux Virtual Server type thing:

http://linuxvirtualserver.org/

Ultimatly having a scaleable super-super that supports many virtual
private servers.







Re: [Cooker] libwmf not obsoleting previous version

2002-03-04 Thread Brad Felmey

On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 06:18, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> Brad Felmey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Installing libwmf0.2_2-02.2-1mdk does not remove prior version:
> > 
> > $ rpm -qa | grep libwmf0.2
> > 
> > libwmf0.2_1-0.2.1-1mdk
> > libwmf0.2_2-0.2.2-1mdk
> 
> That's the point of the "new lib policy".

So we just get more and more and more libs forever? Is this why I have
to keep manually uninstalling libfoo18-devel packages whenever I need to
-Uvh libfoo19-devel? Surely something more elegant can be conceived.

I ask because something else refused to install because it needed the
newer libwmf (which was also installed), but kept seeing the older
version and refusing to install. I wish for the life of me that I
remembered which package(s) this was, but I didn't make a note at the
time.
-- 
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