Re: [SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!

[Torrie Fischer]

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 22:15:51 Michael Griesacker wrote:
> How often did we have our old newsletter?

We never had one.

> 
> On Feb 27, 2014 9:53 PM, "Justin Herman"  wrote:
> > Hey everyone.
> > 
> > With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going.
> > 
> > If you would like to subscribe join here
> > 
> > 
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> > I hope to have ~1 or so a month.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
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Re: [SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!

[Torrie Fischer]

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 23:05:38 Justin Herman wrote:
> Im not sure we had an old newsletter :) but we did have annou...@synhak.org

We still do. announce@ is for anyone who wants to announce local events and 
happenings to the hacker community of Akron.

> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Michael Griesacker
> 
> wrote:
> > How often did we have our old newsletter?
> > 
> > On Feb 27, 2014 9:53 PM, "Justin Herman"  wrote:
> >>  Hey everyone.
> >> 
> >> With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going.
> >> 
> >> If you would like to subscribe join here
> >> 
> >> 
> >> http://synhak.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6c1338d7ba8ac5e0544858682&i
> >> d=809cd4bb9b
> >> 
> >> If you could like to help write/submit content, join us at
> >> news-disc...@synhak.org.
> >> 
> >> I hope to have ~1 or so a month.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Justin Herman
> >> 
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Re: [SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!

[Justin Herman]

Im not sure we had an old newsletter :) but we did have annou...@synhak.org


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Michael Griesacker
wrote:

> How often did we have our old newsletter?
> On Feb 27, 2014 9:53 PM, "Justin Herman"  wrote:
>
>>  Hey everyone.
>>
>> With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going.
>>
>> If you would like to subscribe join here
>>
>>
>> http://synhak.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6c1338d7ba8ac5e0544858682&id=809cd4bb9b
>>
>> If you could like to help write/submit content, join us at
>> news-disc...@synhak.org.
>>
>> I hope to have ~1 or so a month.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Justin Herman
>>
>> ___
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss@synhak.org
>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25

[Torrie Fischer]

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 21:58:00 a l wrote:
> My understanding of the working group was that they would come up with
> plans to suggest to the board and members as to hope to allocate funds.
> This doesn't require a proposal since each disbursement would be a proposal
> or board action.

Sounds reasonable.

> 
> Perhaps I misunderstood the intent though.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew L
> 
> On Feb 27, 2014 6:31 PM, "Michael Griesacker"  wrote:
> > Also:
> > ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant.
> > ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions?
> > *** They use the words "charitable use."  Which carries more meaning than
> > may appear at the surface.
> > On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, "Michael Griesacker" 
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a
> >> game plan for it.  Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation.  -  That's
> >> from the minutes
> >> On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, "Torrie Fischer" 
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> > There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed
> >>> 
> >>> under discussion items, I am not sure as to why.
> >>> 
> >>> I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular
> >>> are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing?
> >>> 
> >>> > D.
> >>> > 
> >>> > 
> >>> > From: Torrie Fischer 
> >>> > To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> >>> > 
> >>> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> > > Torrie,
> >>> > > While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
> >>> > > argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at
> >>> 
> >>> this
> >>> 
> >>> > > time.
> >>> > 
> >>> > Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of
> >>> 
> >>> real
> >>> 
> >>> > wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.
> >>> > 
> >>> > > Thanks,
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Devin Wolfe
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > >  From: Torrie Fischer 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > To: SYN/HAK discussion list 
> >>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
> >>> > > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> > > > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not
> >>> 
> >>> have
> >>> 
> >>> > > > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue
> >>> 
> >>> with
> >>> 
> >>> > > > this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
> >>> > > > committee
> >>> > > > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Technically, they have no authority.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK,
> >>> 
> >>> benevolent
> >>> 
> >>> > > dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that
> >>> 
> >>> imply
> >>> 
> >>> > > some kind of authority.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another
> >>> 
> >>> officer's job
> >>> 
> >>> > > while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and
> >>> 
> >>> have actual
> >>> 
> >>> > > powers.
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > > Devin.
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > ___
> >>> > > Discuss mailing list
> >>> > > Discuss@synhak.org
> >>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >>> 
> >>> ___
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25

[Torrie Fischer]

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 18:30:54 Michael Griesacker wrote:
> Also:
> ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant.
> ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions?
> *** They use the words "charitable use."  Which carries more meaning than
> may appear at the surface.

If thats a proposal, perhaps Justin would like to send it to discuss@ so we 
can discuss how it would work.

You can't just bring up during a meeting "I propose FOO" and never follow up 
on it. What good is a proposal if the proponent doesn't work to push it 
through and achieve consensus?

> 
> On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, "Michael Griesacker"  wrote:
> > * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a
> > game plan for it.  Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation.  -  That's
> > from the minutes
> > On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, "Torrie Fischer" 
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed
> >> 
> >> under discussion items, I am not sure as to why.
> >> 
> >> I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular
> >> are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing?
> >> 
> >> > D.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > From: Torrie Fischer 
> >> > To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list 
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> >> > 
> >> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > > Torrie,
> >> > > While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
> >> > > argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at
> >> 
> >> this
> >> 
> >> > > time.
> >> > 
> >> > Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of
> >> 
> >> real
> >> 
> >> > wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.
> >> > 
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > 
> >> > > Devin Wolfe
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > >  From: Torrie Fischer 
> >> > > 
> >> > > To: SYN/HAK discussion list 
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> >> > > 
> >> > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > > > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not
> >> > > > have
> >> > > > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue
> >> 
> >> with
> >> 
> >> > > > this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
> >> > > > committee
> >> > > > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Technically, they have no authority.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK,
> >> 
> >> benevolent
> >> 
> >> > > dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that
> >> 
> >> imply
> >> 
> >> > > some kind of authority.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another
> >> 
> >> officer's job
> >> 
> >> > > while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have
> >> 
> >> actual
> >> 
> >> > > powers.
> >> > > 
> >> > > > Devin.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >> > > 
> >> > > ___
> >> > > Discuss mailing list
> >> > > Discuss@synhak.org
> >> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >> 
> >> ___
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25

[Torrie Fischer]

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 18:21:45 Michael Griesacker wrote:
> * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a
> game plan for it.  Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation.  -  That's
> from the minutes

Written like that, it looks like we're not allowed to spend any new money at 
all, including dues or donations.

Why are we picking Miami Foundation as a financial advisor?

> 
> On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, "Torrie Fischer"  wrote:
> > On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed
> > 
> > under discussion items, I am not sure as to why.
> > 
> > I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are
> > you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing?
> > 
> > > D.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: Torrie Fischer 
> > > To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> > > 
> > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > Torrie,
> > > > While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
> > > > argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at
> > > > this
> > > > time.
> > > 
> > > Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real
> > > wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.
> > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > Devin Wolfe
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: Torrie Fischer 
> > > > 
> > > > To: SYN/HAK discussion list 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> > > > 
> > > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have
> > > > > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue
> > 
> > with
> > 
> > > > > this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
> > > > > committee
> > > > > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
> > > > 
> > > > Technically, they have no authority.
> > > > 
> > > > Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK,
> > 
> > benevolent
> > 
> > > > dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that
> > 
> > imply
> > 
> > > > some kind of authority.
> > > > 
> > > > Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another
> > 
> > officer's job
> > 
> > > > while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have
> > 
> > actual
> > 
> > > > powers.
> > > > 
> > > > > Devin.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > > > 
> > > > ___
> > > > Discuss mailing list
> > > > Discuss@synhak.org
> > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > 
> > ___
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Re: [SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!

[Michael Griesacker]

How often did we have our old newsletter?
On Feb 27, 2014 9:53 PM, "Justin Herman"  wrote:

> Hey everyone.
>
> With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going.
>
> If you would like to subscribe join here
>
>
> http://synhak.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6c1338d7ba8ac5e0544858682&id=809cd4bb9b
>
> If you could like to help write/submit content, join us at
> news-disc...@synhak.org.
>
> I hope to have ~1 or so a month.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin Herman
>
> ___
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25

[a l]

My understanding of the working group was that they would come up with
plans to suggest to the board and members as to hope to allocate funds.
This doesn't require a proposal since each disbursement would be a proposal
or board action.

Perhaps I misunderstood the intent though.

Regards,
Andrew L
On Feb 27, 2014 6:31 PM, "Michael Griesacker"  wrote:

> Also:
> ** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant.
> ** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions?
> *** They use the words "charitable use."  Which carries more meaning than
> may appear at the surface.
> On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, "Michael Griesacker" 
> wrote:
>
>> * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a
>> game plan for it.  Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation.  -  That's
>> from the minutes
>> On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, "Torrie Fischer" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> >
>>> > There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed
>>> under discussion items, I am not sure as to why.
>>>
>>> I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular
>>> are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing?
>>>
>>> >
>>> > D.
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > From: Torrie Fischer 
>>> > To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list 
>>>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
>>> >
>>> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> > > Torrie,
>>> > > While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
>>> > > argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at
>>> this
>>> > > time.
>>> >
>>> > Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of
>>> real
>>> > wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > >
>>> > > Devin Wolfe
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > 
>>> > >  From: Torrie Fischer 
>>> > > To: SYN/HAK discussion list 
>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
>>> > > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> > > > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not
>>> have
>>> > > > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue
>>> with
>>> > > > this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
>>> > > > committee
>>> > > > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
>>> > >
>>> > > Technically, they have no authority.
>>> > >
>>> > > Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK,
>>> benevolent
>>> > > dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that
>>> imply
>>> > > some kind of authority.
>>> > >
>>> > > Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another
>>> officer's job
>>> > > while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and
>>> have actual
>>> > > powers.
>>> > >
>>> > > > Devin.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> > >
>>> > > ___
>>> > > Discuss mailing list
>>> > > Discuss@synhak.org
>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss@synhak.org
>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>
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[SH-Discuss] New Space, New Newsletter!!!

[Justin Herman]

Hey everyone.

With our new space open house I thought we could get a newsletter going.

If you would like to subscribe join here

http://synhak.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=6c1338d7ba8ac5e0544858682&id=809cd4bb9b

If you could like to help write/submit content, join us at
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25

[Michael Griesacker]

Also:
** Justin: Proposes that we create a working group for this grant.
** Tim: Do they have specific restrictions?
*** They use the words "charitable use."  Which carries more meaning than
may appear at the surface.
On Feb 27, 2014 6:21 PM, "Michael Griesacker"  wrote:

> * Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a
> game plan for it.  Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation.  -  That's
> from the minutes
> On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, "Torrie Fischer" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >
>> > There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed
>> under discussion items, I am not sure as to why.
>>
>> I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular
>> are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing?
>>
>> >
>> > D.
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: Torrie Fischer 
>> > To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > > Torrie,
>> > > While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
>> > > argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at
>> this
>> > > time.
>> >
>> > Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of
>> real
>> > wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > Devin Wolfe
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > >  From: Torrie Fischer 
>> > > To: SYN/HAK discussion list 
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
>> > >
>> > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > > > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have
>> > > > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue
>> with
>> > > > this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
>> > > > committee
>> > > > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
>> > >
>> > > Technically, they have no authority.
>> > >
>> > > Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK,
>> benevolent
>> > > dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that
>> imply
>> > > some kind of authority.
>> > >
>> > > Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another
>> officer's job
>> > > while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have
>> actual
>> > > powers.
>> > >
>> > > > Devin.
>> > > >
>> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> > >
>> > > ___
>> > > Discuss mailing list
>> > > Discuss@synhak.org
>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25

[Michael Griesacker]

* Devin: Let's put a 100% freeze on all new funds until we figure out a
game plan for it.  Use a financial advisor, Miami Foundation.  -  That's
from the minutes
On Feb 27, 2014 4:48 PM, "Torrie Fischer"  wrote:

>
> On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed
> under discussion items, I am not sure as to why.
>
> I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are
> you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing?
>
> >
> > D.
> >
> > 
> > From: Torrie Fischer 
> > To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Torrie,
> > > While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
> > > argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this
> > > time.
> >
> > Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real
> > wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Devin Wolfe
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >  From: Torrie Fischer 
> > > To: SYN/HAK discussion list 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have
> > > > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue
> with
> > > > this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
> > > > committee
> > > > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
> > >
> > > Technically, they have no authority.
> > >
> > > Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK,
> benevolent
> > > dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that
> imply
> > > some kind of authority.
> > >
> > > Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another
> officer's job
> > > while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have
> actual
> > > powers.
> > >
> > > > Devin.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25

[Torrie Fischer]

On Feb 27, 2014 4:38 PM, degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under discussion items, I am not sure as to why. 
I dont remember you saying anything was a proposal. What in particular are you talking about, and what's the wording you are proposing?
>
> D.
>
> 
> From: Torrie Fischer 
> To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list  
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Torrie,
> > While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
> > argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this
> > time.
>
> Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real 
> wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.
>
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Devin Wolfe
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Torrie Fischer 
> > To: SYN/HAK discussion list 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> > 
> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have
> > > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with
> > > this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
> > > committee
> > > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
> > 
> > Technically, they have no authority.
> > 
> > Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent
> > dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply
> > some kind of authority.
> > 
> > Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job
> > while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual
> > powers.
> > 
> > > Devin.
> > > 
> > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > 
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25

[degerovita]

*tuesday night*




 From: "degerov...@yahoo.com" 
To: Torrie Fischer ; SYN/HAK discussion list 
 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
 


There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under 
discussion items, I am not sure as to why. 

D.



 From: Torrie Fischer 
To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list  
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
 

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Torrie,
> While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
> argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this
> time.

Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become
 a proposal with any kind of real 
wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Devin Wolfe
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Torrie Fischer 
> To: SYN/HAK discussion list 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> 
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have
> > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with
> >
 this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
> > committee
> > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
> 
> Technically, they have no authority.
> 
> Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent
> dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply
> some kind of authority.
> 
> Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job
> while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual
> powers.
> 
> > Devin.
> > 
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25

[degerovita]

There has been a misunderstanding. My proposal last night was filed under 
discussion items, I am not sure as to why. 

D.



 From: Torrie Fischer 
To: degerov...@yahoo.com; SYN/HAK discussion list  
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
 

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 13:50:20 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Torrie,
> While I appreciate your input, I don't feel your "implied authority"
> argument is valid. I do not see the need to change the proposal at this
> time.

Whoah whoah whoah, when did this become a proposal with any kind of real 
wording? This was discussion about working on the idea.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Devin Wolfe
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Torrie Fischer 
> To: SYN/HAK discussion list 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Meeting minutes from 2014-02-25
> 
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 06:17:31 degerov...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I don't follow. If you have stated many times, champions do not have
> > authority. Why would anti-authoritarian-type-people have any issue with
> > this what so ever? They would just serve as another member on the
> > committee
> > concerned about the growth of SYNHAK.
> 
> Technically, they have no authority.
> 
> Realistically, champions have been called the leaders of SYNHAK, benevolent
> dictator for life, presidents, directors, and many other titles that imply
> some kind of authority.
> 
> Consider also the situation of a champion taking over another officer's job
> while they're still on the CWG. Suddenly they are on the CWG and have actual
> powers.
> 
> > Devin.
> > 
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Knight Foundation Grant Hold

[Torrie Fischer]

On Feb 27, 2014 3:51 PM, Chris Egeland  wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> At the meeting on Tuesday, there was apparently some misunderstanding about 
> the legality of our credit union holding our $15,000 deposit for a period of 
> time.  I have done some research, and have found the following information: 
>
> First, everyone needs to be aware that we use a credit union, not a bank, as 
> our financial institution.  Specifically, SYN/HAK is a member of BFG Credit 
> Union, headquartered in Akron.  As such, the regulations that apply to banks 
> and bank customers do not entirely apply to us. 
>
> Second, the Expedited Funds Availability Act of 1987 classifies our deposit 
> of $15,000 as a “Large Deposit”, which means that over $5,000 was deposited 
> in one day.  The federal regulations for requiring fund availability on 
> deposits above $5,000 is $5,000 on the second business day, and the remainder 
> on the 7th business day. 
>
> Keep in mind, I’m not an expert on the financial industry by any means.  I 
> have just gone and done a bit of Googling to try to figure this out and make 
> sure we weren’t getting screwed.  In my personal opinion, we aren’t.

Yeah, I'm still not sure why a hold is an issue since we aren't spending any of 
it within 10 days.

>
> Thanks, 
> Chris 
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[SH-Discuss] Knight Foundation Grant Hold

[Chris Egeland]

Hello everyone,

At the meeting on Tuesday, there was apparently some misunderstanding about the 
legality of our credit union holding our $15,000 deposit for a period of time.  
I have done some research, and have found the following information:

First, everyone needs to be aware that we use a credit union, not a bank, as 
our financial institution.  Specifically, SYN/HAK is a member of BFG Credit 
Union, headquartered in Akron.  As such, the regulations that apply to banks 
and bank customers do not entirely apply to us.

Second, the Expedited Funds Availability Act of 1987 classifies our deposit of 
$15,000 as a “Large Deposit”, which means that over $5,000 was deposited in one 
day.  The federal regulations for requiring fund availability on deposits above 
$5,000 is $5,000 on the second business day, and the remainder on the 7th 
business day.

Keep in mind, I’m not an expert on the financial industry by any means.  I have 
just gone and done a bit of Googling to try to figure this out and make sure we 
weren’t getting screwed.  In my personal opinion, we aren’t.

Thanks,
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Re: [SH-Discuss] new display wall of fame

[a l]

I definitely like the timeline idea. I'll pick up some mounting board for
Unframed pictures next time I'm at hobby lobby.
Regards,
Andrew L
On Feb 27, 2014 1:55 PM, "Torrie Fischer"  wrote:

> On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:36:04 Philip P. Patnode wrote:
> > In the spirit of "do'ocracy" and a strong personal motivation, I want to
> > use the large white wall next to the kitchen, before the doorway to the
> > back room, as a display wall.
> >
> > I will be hanging prints of famous scientists, inventors, programmers,
> > artists, engineers, Nobel laureates, and others on the wall.
> >
> > The first three individuals to be hung (not a pun) will be *Ada
> > Lovelace*, *Alan
> > Turing*, and *Nikola Tesla*.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_lovelace
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
> >
> > I will try to add one or two color prints, with or without frame, of
> > notable individuals in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and
> > art every week.
> >
> > I will also be adding photographs of SH members, supporters, non-members
> > and other assorted guests to the wall on a continuing basis.
>
> +1!
>
> It would be super cool to have a wall of photographs of our community
> members
> with names so others can easily match names only ever seen on a mailing
> list
> with real meatspace entities.
>
> >
> > I invite everybody to contribute to the display wall with prints,
> > photographs, and framed artwork that is appropriate to the philosophy,
> > purpose, and mission of SH.
>
> I've got a couple of photographs of the garage that would be pretty neat to
> include as a kind of timeline.
>
> >
> > If anybody objects to using the wall for this purpose, please submit your
> > objection n triplicate to me by personal messenger.  The text of your
> > complaint must be on plain bond paper, in 12-point Arial type, with
> > citations and links, as necessary. It will be processed by a committee of
> > one and dealt with promptly.  Be aware that frivolous claims will result
> in
> > a two-week stay in total isolation at the Re-education Camp for
> > Recalcitrant Individuals, located in a nearby, unnamed county.
> >
> > Seriously, if you don't want the wall used for display, please speak up
> > now.
>
> Becca and I decided that we'd like to paint some arrowish line things on
> the
> wall, akin to this:
>
> http://www.lighttape.co.uk/graphic23/subway-egress.jpg
>
> Except a number of them that are different colors pointing to different
> locations in the space at chest or eye level. I think it'd be neat to use
> whiteboard or chalkboard paint on small sections of them for easy
> relabeling
> in the future.
>
> As long as they're just frames that are getting hung like a normal frame, I
> don't think it'll get in the way much with some more painting on that wall
> :)
>
> >
> > BTW, I will be providing the prints, frames, and photos that I plan to
> hang
> > on the wall at my expense.
> >
> > Philip
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Space is OPEN!

[gs volt]

On it.

He prolly meant 28th morning. Paula mentioned that she wanted to publish it
before the event.

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Chris Egeland wrote:

> The photographer said the story was supposed to run on the 29th.
>
> Problem: This year isn't a leap year.
>
> Can someone contact Paula and find out what day our story is supposed to
> run?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:06 PM, gs volt  wrote:
>
> Hmm.. does anyone from synhak subscribe to Akron Beacon Journal and don't
> mind keeping an eye for our snippet in the paper? Possibly email discuss
> when its published?
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Chris Egeland wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> The space is open.  I've got the day off and decided to stop by early.
>>  Anyone want to come down and help me tidy things up just a bit before the
>> photographer from the ABJ shows up?
>>
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Space is OPEN!

[Chris Egeland]

The photographer said the story was supposed to run on the 29th.

Problem: This year isn’t a leap year.

Can someone contact Paula and find out what day our story is supposed to run?

Thanks,
Chris

On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:06 PM, gs volt  wrote:

> Hmm.. does anyone from synhak subscribe to Akron Beacon Journal and don't 
> mind keeping an eye for our snippet in the paper? Possibly email discuss when 
> its published?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Chris Egeland  wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> The space is open.  I’ve got the day off and decided to stop by early.  
> Anyone want to come down and help me tidy things up just a bit before the 
> photographer from the ABJ shows up?
> 
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Space is OPEN!

[gs volt]

Hmm.. does anyone from synhak subscribe to Akron Beacon Journal and don't
mind keeping an eye for our snippet in the paper? Possibly email discuss
when its published?


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> Hey all,
>
> The space is open.  I've got the day off and decided to stop by early.
>  Anyone want to come down and help me tidy things up just a bit before the
> photographer from the ABJ shows up?
>
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[SH-Discuss] Space is OPEN!

[Chris Egeland]

Hey all,

The space is open.  I’ve got the day off and decided to stop by early.  Anyone 
want to come down and help me tidy things up just a bit before the photographer 
from the ABJ shows up?

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Re: [SH-Discuss] new display wall of fame

[Torrie Fischer]

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:36:04 Philip P. Patnode wrote:
> In the spirit of "do'ocracy" and a strong personal motivation, I want to
> use the large white wall next to the kitchen, before the doorway to the
> back room, as a display wall.
> 
> I will be hanging prints of famous scientists, inventors, programmers,
> artists, engineers, Nobel laureates, and others on the wall.
> 
> The first three individuals to be hung (not a pun) will be *Ada
> Lovelace*, *Alan
> Turing*, and *Nikola Tesla*.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_lovelace
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
> 
> I will try to add one or two color prints, with or without frame, of
> notable individuals in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and
> art every week.
> 
> I will also be adding photographs of SH members, supporters, non-members
> and other assorted guests to the wall on a continuing basis.

+1!

It would be super cool to have a wall of photographs of our community members 
with names so others can easily match names only ever seen on a mailing list 
with real meatspace entities.

> 
> I invite everybody to contribute to the display wall with prints,
> photographs, and framed artwork that is appropriate to the philosophy,
> purpose, and mission of SH.

I've got a couple of photographs of the garage that would be pretty neat to 
include as a kind of timeline.

> 
> If anybody objects to using the wall for this purpose, please submit your
> objection n triplicate to me by personal messenger.  The text of your
> complaint must be on plain bond paper, in 12-point Arial type, with
> citations and links, as necessary. It will be processed by a committee of
> one and dealt with promptly.  Be aware that frivolous claims will result in
> a two-week stay in total isolation at the Re-education Camp for
> Recalcitrant Individuals, located in a nearby, unnamed county.
> 
> Seriously, if you don't want the wall used for display, please speak up
> now.

Becca and I decided that we'd like to paint some arrowish line things on the 
wall, akin to this:

http://www.lighttape.co.uk/graphic23/subway-egress.jpg

Except a number of them that are different colors pointing to different 
locations in the space at chest or eye level. I think it'd be neat to use 
whiteboard or chalkboard paint on small sections of them for easy relabeling 
in the future.

As long as they're just frames that are getting hung like a normal frame, I 
don't think it'll get in the way much with some more painting on that wall :)

> 
> BTW, I will be providing the prints, frames, and photos that I plan to hang
> on the wall at my expense.
> 
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Open hours today

[Philip P. Patnode]

FYI

I'll be there around 3pm to continue work on both bathrooms.

If anybody has painting skills, they can paint the rear bathroom door.  One
side has the first coat of orange, the other is ready to paint.  Two coats
of paint are necessary.  It is off the hinges, on a table, in the front
room, ready to paint.

I will be installing the new sink and faucet (thanks to Justin Herman!)
today.

Philip


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Chris Egeland wrote:

>  Tomm,
>
> Yes, lots of work.  If you're interested in the general buildout of the
> space, I'd recommend joining the bu...@synhak.org list.
>
> You can do so by sending an email to build-subscr...@synhak.org and
> replying to the automatic email that comes back with the subject line
> intact.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 2/26/2014 4:12 PM, Tomm Smith wrote:
>
> Are there any general jobs that are needed to be completed before Opening
> Day?
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Becca Salchak wrote:
>
>> Thank you I will be there  around 5. I just noticed that Chris' email
>> named me as Secretary but when I left the meeting last night I was under
>> the impression that you won
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Re: [SH-Discuss] Who wants another 3D printer?

[a l]

Currently the printer its without a control computer as we are in the
middle of updating it. I do not know when it will be finished.
On Feb 26, 2014 7:57 PM, "Tomm Smith"  wrote:

> Also, in addition to the earlier suggestion. Looking further into the
> easiest and most efficient manner to build it I came across the idea of
> actually building in the theme of the prize. We could essentially build a
> LulzBot Taz from our printer to try and win a printer. The Taz has a very
> simple and easy structure to it, and I believe all the parts could be
> printed outside of the guide rods and the servos/accompanying belts.
> Regardless of the outcome, after building the Quine we could publish the
> prints  and donate a few to surrounding schools to try and stir curiosity
> with our Youth.
>
> If anyone is interested in this idea lets throw some ideas around. I have
> some uncertainties in the programmatic side of it, but the structural side
> will be fairly simple, even considering the means. Or at least one can
> think so initially
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Tomm Smith  wrote:
>
>> Just throwing the idea out, but what if we just made one out of the
>> preexisting one, buying only the electronics and parts we cannot make? This
>> would be a creative solution to the contests requirements and would also
>> stir curiosity with the simple, self redundant nature of it. Everybody
>> likes a Quine, right? The project could stir publicity, inspire, cut cost,
>> as well as a few other aspects, and most of all possibly bring in a top of
>> the line 3D printer that could be used for some serious custom part
>> manufacturing.
>>
>> I would think that the biggest obstacle would be the time required to
>> print all of the parts required, seeing as the printer is sort of slow? The
>> only money in would be the servos, connecting belts, and possibly some push
>> rods, *IF* they cannot be printed or alternative solutions constructed. I
>> am thinking this would be a fairly simple project given the skeletal
>> structure is pretty simple. Though, most of the aspects will depend upon
>> the limitations of the current 3D printer. EG. Maximum print
>> lengt/distance, accuracy of detail and intricacy, and those are about the
>> only two I think of. Outside of those limitations, I see no major
>> preventative. Even the length issue could possibly be overcame by making
>> the pieces individually and "gluing" them together with some of the same
>> material, depending upon the structural strength of the product of such a
>> procedure.
>>
>> Just a suggestion for conversation and the 3D printer.
>>
>> Sincerly, Tomm Smith
>> God bless
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:24 PM, gs volt  wrote:
>>
>>> I think synhak should, because:
>>>
>>> - spiff and all the other repos: https://github.com/SYNHAK
>>> - and we are a hackerspace
>>>
>>> If no one else applies, I'll plan to complete an application - heck I'll
>>> do it on opening day itself as that is when the form goes live.
>>>
>>> If I need any specifics from members, I can collect it then and gather
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Chris Egeland 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 http://hackaday.com/2014/02/26/get-your-hackerspace-a-3d-printer/

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Re: [SH-Discuss] new display wall of fame

[Philip P. Patnode]

G,

You may have mis-interpreted the form of the newly-created display wall.

It is NOT for people to draw or paint on, as in the photo you attached in
your email.

The display wall is meant only for prints, photographs, and other assorted
artwork, with or without frames, that can be hung or attached with
removable hangers.  Items on the wall will be semi-permanent, subject to
relocating or removal to make room for newer stuff in the future.

I am hoping you will submit some of your great photographs in print form
and add them to the wall.  You can get 4x6 prints at Walgreens for about
10cents each and larger prints at Sams Club for very reasonable prices.  I
have an account at both places, if you want me to submit your JPG files for
printing.

P


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, gs volt  wrote:

> Thanks Philip for doing this .. really appreciate it
>
> Can't wait to see the community art wall
>
> The last time I painted something was for Womack Family Band's community
> quilt at Jubileego 2013 in New London, I took a photo of it too:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsvolt/12734773534/sizes/o/in/set-72157641435021914/
>
> I had painted the two Om symbols in the middle
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Philip P. Patnode wrote:
>
>> In the spirit of "do'ocracy" and a strong personal motivation, I want to
>> use the large white wall next to the kitchen, before the doorway to the
>> back room, as a display wall.
>>
>> I will be hanging prints of famous scientists, inventors, programmers,
>> artists, engineers, Nobel laureates, and others on the wall.
>>
>> The first three individuals to be hung (not a pun) will be *Ada Lovelace*,
>> *Alan Turing*, and *Nikola Tesla*.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_lovelace
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
>>
>> I will try to add one or two color prints, with or without frame, of
>> notable individuals in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and
>> art every week.
>>
>> I will also be adding photographs of SH members, supporters, non-members
>> and other assorted guests to the wall on a continuing basis.
>>
>> I invite everybody to contribute to the display wall with prints,
>> photographs, and framed artwork that is appropriate to the philosophy,
>> purpose, and mission of SH.
>>
>> If anybody objects to using the wall for this purpose, please submit your
>> objection n triplicate to me by personal messenger.  The text of your
>> complaint must be on plain bond paper, in 12-point Arial type, with
>> citations and links, as necessary. It will be processed by a committee of
>> one and dealt with promptly.  Be aware that frivolous claims will result in
>> a two-week stay in total isolation at the Re-education Camp for
>> Recalcitrant Individuals, located in a nearby, unnamed county.
>>
>> Seriously, if you don't want the wall used for display, please speak up
>> now.
>>
>> BTW, I will be providing the prints, frames, and photos that I plan to
>> hang on the wall at my expense.
>>
>> Philip
>>
>>
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> Hackerspace located at 48 S Summit St Akron Ohio 
> 44308
>
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> Sherwin-Williamson behalf of Bennett
> Adelson  (Microsoft Solution Center)
> located at 6050 Oak Tree Blvd, Cleveland, Ohio 
> 44131
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Re: [SH-Discuss] new display wall of fame

[gs volt]

Thanks Philip for doing this .. really appreciate it

Can't wait to see the community art wall

The last time I painted something was for Womack Family Band's community
quilt at Jubileego 2013 in New London, I took a photo of it too:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsvolt/12734773534/sizes/o/in/set-72157641435021914/

I had painted the two Om symbols in the middle



On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Philip P. Patnode wrote:

> In the spirit of "do'ocracy" and a strong personal motivation, I want to
> use the large white wall next to the kitchen, before the doorway to the
> back room, as a display wall.
>
> I will be hanging prints of famous scientists, inventors, programmers,
> artists, engineers, Nobel laureates, and others on the wall.
>
> The first three individuals to be hung (not a pun) will be *Ada Lovelace*,
> *Alan Turing*, and *Nikola Tesla*.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_lovelace
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
>
> I will try to add one or two color prints, with or without frame, of
> notable individuals in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and
> art every week.
>
> I will also be adding photographs of SH members, supporters, non-members
> and other assorted guests to the wall on a continuing basis.
>
> I invite everybody to contribute to the display wall with prints,
> photographs, and framed artwork that is appropriate to the philosophy,
> purpose, and mission of SH.
>
> If anybody objects to using the wall for this purpose, please submit your
> objection n triplicate to me by personal messenger.  The text of your
> complaint must be on plain bond paper, in 12-point Arial type, with
> citations and links, as necessary. It will be processed by a committee of
> one and dealt with promptly.  Be aware that frivolous claims will result in
> a two-week stay in total isolation at the Re-education Camp for
> Recalcitrant Individuals, located in a nearby, unnamed county.
>
> Seriously, if you don't want the wall used for display, please speak up
> now.
>
> BTW, I will be providing the prints, frames, and photos that I plan to
> hang on the wall at my expense.
>
> Philip
>
>
>
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Hackerspace located at 48 S Summit St Akron Ohio
44308

I am providing technical consulting services to
Sherwin-Williamson behalf of Bennett
Adelson  (Microsoft Solution Center)
located at 6050 Oak Tree Blvd, Cleveland, Ohio
44131
I have also been providing solutions to non-trivial problems other
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[Philip P. Patnode]

In the spirit of "do'ocracy" and a strong personal motivation, I want to
use the large white wall next to the kitchen, before the doorway to the
back room, as a display wall.

I will be hanging prints of famous scientists, inventors, programmers,
artists, engineers, Nobel laureates, and others on the wall.

The first three individuals to be hung (not a pun) will be *Ada
Lovelace*, *Alan
Turing*, and *Nikola Tesla*.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_lovelace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

I will try to add one or two color prints, with or without frame, of
notable individuals in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and
art every week.

I will also be adding photographs of SH members, supporters, non-members
and other assorted guests to the wall on a continuing basis.

I invite everybody to contribute to the display wall with prints,
photographs, and framed artwork that is appropriate to the philosophy,
purpose, and mission of SH.

If anybody objects to using the wall for this purpose, please submit your
objection n triplicate to me by personal messenger.  The text of your
complaint must be on plain bond paper, in 12-point Arial type, with
citations and links, as necessary. It will be processed by a committee of
one and dealt with promptly.  Be aware that frivolous claims will result in
a two-week stay in total isolation at the Re-education Camp for
Recalcitrant Individuals, located in a nearby, unnamed county.

Seriously, if you don't want the wall used for display, please speak up
now.

BTW, I will be providing the prints, frames, and photos that I plan to hang
on the wall at my expense.

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Re: [SH-Discuss] Opening day festivities

[Philip P. Patnode]

ref = food warmer

I will deliver it this afternoon.

Should be at the space by 3pm.

Philip


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:01 PM,  wrote:

>
> I feel the chicken would be best warm. I will provide the sterno. Thanks
>
> Devin
>   --
>  *From:* Martha Geroch 
>
> *To:* SYN/HAK discussion list 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:59 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [SH-Discuss] Opening day festivities
>
> You know, I haven't decided whether the chicken is gonna be warm or cold,
> but I bet a food warmer would be useful to synhak (pizza's gotta stay warm
> too.)
> Ride was no problem.
> Martha
> 
> On Tue, 2/25/14, Philip P. Patnode  wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Opening day festivities
> To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" 
> Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014, 11:24 AM
>
> Martha,
> Well, thank you many bunches for the offer of
> fully-cooked and spicy lower extremities from random
> chickens!
> If possible, try to separate the left legs and
> thighs from the right legs and thighs, as some picky members
> prefer one side over the other.  I think it has something
> to do with altered states of reality on odd-numbered
> days.
>
> I am sure all will be pleased the addition of
> some tasty food from your kitchen.
> Would you like to serve the pieces/parts warm?
>  If yes, I have a new, never used, food warmer that uses
> Sterno for heating.
> It is a big aluminum tray with a wire frame support.
>  Let me know and I will have it at SH by noon on Saturday.
>  I'll try to find some cans of Sterno or bring a bag of
> wood sticks to burn.
>
> BTW, I set aside a dozen or so empty glass bottles for you
> to recycle.  All are in a pile on the new sink in the new
> kitchen area.  They were left over from the festivities
> last Saturday.
> A little late, but I wanted to thank you for the
> ride to west Akron the other day.  I appreciate your
> generosity and time.  I hope it was not too much out of
> your way.
>
> See you this weekend!
> Philip
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at
> 5:30 PM, Martha Geroch 
> wrote:
>
> I would
> like to bring some spicy chicken legs (or thighs) - already
> cooked, no grill necessary.
>
> Just a big platter - probably not enough for everybody. I
> assume no response means that's OK.
>
> 
>
> On Fri, 2/21/14, Becca Salchak 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Opening day festivities
>
>  To: "SYN/HAK discussion
> list" 
>
>  Date: Friday, February 21, 2014, 5:03 PM
>
>
>
>  I was planning on making
>
>  Cupcakes but I didn't know If we had an estimate of
> how
>
>  many people we expect
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Re: [SH-Discuss] 2014 Ohio Pinball Show today through 3/1

[gs volt]

"Bring a game to share, sell or trade and receive Free admission! Game must
be on free play and available to public until 6 pm."

It seems like a vendor show to me, I'm glad its not too far away though


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Byron Moran  wrote:

> "Play free pinball" ... ... "Admission: $20". I'm not sure how that works,
> but I'm still going to go tomorrow after work! Seems like the kid would
> have a blast!
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:52 AM, gs volt  wrote:
>
>> http://ohiopinballshow.com/
>>
>> Hope some of you can enjoy yourself and play free pinball.
>>
>> Starts today, ends on 3/1
>>
>> The sheer hours are incredible on their website:
>>
>>
>>- *Thursday February 27th  2014  5 PM to 12 AM*
>>- *Friday February 28th 2014  11 AM to 12 AM*
>>- *Saturday March 1st  2014  9 AM to 8 PM*
>>
>>
>> They must have a big facility
>>
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located at 6050 Oak Tree Blvd, Cleveland, Ohio
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[Byron Moran]

"Play free pinball" ... ... "Admission: $20". I'm not sure how that works,
but I'm still going to go tomorrow after work! Seems like the kid would
have a blast!


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:52 AM, gs volt  wrote:

> http://ohiopinballshow.com/
>
> Hope some of you can enjoy yourself and play free pinball.
>
> Starts today, ends on 3/1
>
> The sheer hours are incredible on their website:
>
>
>- *Thursday February 27th  2014  5 PM to 12 AM*
>- *Friday February 28th 2014  11 AM to 12 AM*
>- *Saturday March 1st  2014  9 AM to 8 PM*
>
>
> They must have a big facility
>
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[gs volt]

http://ohiopinballshow.com/

Hope some of you can enjoy yourself and play free pinball.

Starts today, ends on 3/1

The sheer hours are incredible on their website:


   - *Thursday February 27th  2014  5 PM to 12 AM*
   - *Friday February 28th 2014  11 AM to 12 AM*
   - *Saturday March 1st  2014  9 AM to 8 PM*


They must have a big facility
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Re: [SH-Discuss] ABJ pictures

[Justin Herman]

G,

I hope this helps

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bxw1KFspeHRrUHQzSFlfZ1Z1bzQ&usp=sharing


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:38 AM, gs volt  wrote:

> Upload them at not synhak.org but somewhere else, share link
>  On Feb 27, 2014 8:12 AM, "Justin Herman"  wrote:
>
>> I have some pre-move in pictures of the space. Is that helpful?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:33 AM, gs volt  wrote:
>>
>>> It doesn't have to be clean, that's not the point of ABJ's arrival. Its
>>> similar to what I've been doing on my flickr set here:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsvolt/sets/
>>>
>>> I've been collecting build pictures for this very moment - how things
>>> were before and how they are now. As no future photo-journalist will know
>>> how things were before, but has to have the option to use these image
>>> assets in case they desire to use it.
>>>
>>> Btw.. if anyone else has photos of 48 S Summit, please let me know.
>>>
>>> In the end, it will be up to ABJ to use my assets or not, I hope they do
>>> - I think there's some nice shots in my sets.
>>>
>>> For our last article, I think there were like 5-6 photos that were used
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Andrew Buczko >> > wrote:
>>>
 I will try to be there to help out too



 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:45 PM, a l  wrote:

> Oh geez, there's no way 3 people can get it cleaned by 2:30 tomorrow.
> There's not much chance for 15 people getting it photo-ready by 2:30
> tomorrow.
>
> may the odds be ever in your favor,
> Andrew L
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Torrie Fischer <
> tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> wrote:
>
>> I got a call from G a minute ago. The ABJ is showing up tomorrow at
>> 2:30p to take some pictures of the space. Becca, Chris N. and I are here
>> tonight BTW.
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[gs volt]

Upload them at not synhak.org but somewhere else, share link
On Feb 27, 2014 8:12 AM, "Justin Herman"  wrote:

> I have some pre-move in pictures of the space. Is that helpful?
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:33 AM, gs volt  wrote:
>
>> It doesn't have to be clean, that's not the point of ABJ's arrival. Its
>> similar to what I've been doing on my flickr set here:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsvolt/sets/
>>
>> I've been collecting build pictures for this very moment - how things
>> were before and how they are now. As no future photo-journalist will know
>> how things were before, but has to have the option to use these image
>> assets in case they desire to use it.
>>
>> Btw.. if anyone else has photos of 48 S Summit, please let me know.
>>
>> In the end, it will be up to ABJ to use my assets or not, I hope they do
>> - I think there's some nice shots in my sets.
>>
>> For our last article, I think there were like 5-6 photos that were used
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Andrew Buczko 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I will try to be there to help out too
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:45 PM, a l  wrote:
>>>
 Oh geez, there's no way 3 people can get it cleaned by 2:30 tomorrow.
 There's not much chance for 15 people getting it photo-ready by 2:30
 tomorrow.

 may the odds be ever in your favor,
 Andrew L


 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Torrie Fischer <
 tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> wrote:

> I got a call from G a minute ago. The ABJ is showing up tomorrow at
> 2:30p to take some pictures of the space. Becca, Chris N. and I are here
> tonight BTW.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] ABJ pictures

[Justin Herman]

I have some pre-move in pictures of the space. Is that helpful?


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:33 AM, gs volt  wrote:

> It doesn't have to be clean, that's not the point of ABJ's arrival. Its
> similar to what I've been doing on my flickr set here:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsvolt/sets/
>
> I've been collecting build pictures for this very moment - how things were
> before and how they are now. As no future photo-journalist will know how
> things were before, but has to have the option to use these image assets in
> case they desire to use it.
>
> Btw.. if anyone else has photos of 48 S Summit, please let me know.
>
> In the end, it will be up to ABJ to use my assets or not, I hope they do -
> I think there's some nice shots in my sets.
>
> For our last article, I think there were like 5-6 photos that were used
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Andrew Buczko 
> wrote:
>
>> I will try to be there to help out too
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:45 PM, a l  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh geez, there's no way 3 people can get it cleaned by 2:30 tomorrow.
>>> There's not much chance for 15 people getting it photo-ready by 2:30
>>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>> may the odds be ever in your favor,
>>> Andrew L
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Torrie Fischer <
>>> tdfisc...@hackerbots.net> wrote:
>>>
 I got a call from G a minute ago. The ABJ is showing up tomorrow at
 2:30p to take some pictures of the space. Becca, Chris N. and I are here
 tonight BTW.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] ABJ pictures

[gs volt]

It doesn't have to be clean, that's not the point of ABJ's arrival. Its
similar to what I've been doing on my flickr set here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsvolt/sets/

I've been collecting build pictures for this very moment - how things were
before and how they are now. As no future photo-journalist will know how
things were before, but has to have the option to use these image assets in
case they desire to use it.

Btw.. if anyone else has photos of 48 S Summit, please let me know.

In the end, it will be up to ABJ to use my assets or not, I hope they do -
I think there's some nice shots in my sets.

For our last article, I think there were like 5-6 photos that were used




On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Andrew Buczko wrote:

> I will try to be there to help out too
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:45 PM, a l  wrote:
>
>> Oh geez, there's no way 3 people can get it cleaned by 2:30 tomorrow.
>> There's not much chance for 15 people getting it photo-ready by 2:30
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> may the odds be ever in your favor,
>> Andrew L
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Torrie Fischer > > wrote:
>>
>>> I got a call from G a minute ago. The ABJ is showing up tomorrow at
>>> 2:30p to take some pictures of the space. Becca, Chris N. and I are here
>>> tonight BTW.
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Re: [SH-Discuss] ABJ pictures

[Andrew Buczko]

I will try to be there to help out too



On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:45 PM, a l  wrote:

> Oh geez, there's no way 3 people can get it cleaned by 2:30 tomorrow.
> There's not much chance for 15 people getting it photo-ready by 2:30
> tomorrow.
>
> may the odds be ever in your favor,
> Andrew L
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> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Torrie Fischer 
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>> I got a call from G a minute ago. The ABJ is showing up tomorrow at 2:30p
>> to take some pictures of the space. Becca, Chris N. and I are here tonight
>> BTW.
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