Re: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] R200 t_vertex conversion

2004-04-17 Thread Keith Whitwell
Ian Romanick wrote:
This is what I have done so far to convert the R200 driver to use 
t_vertex.  It is only a conversion for SW TCL, and it's not quite 
complete.  I've managed to clean up all the crashes that I could find, 
but I've only tested with gears, geartrain, and tunnel.  There are some 
known problems:

- The textures in tunnel are not quite right.  They're sort of zig-zaggy.
- The colors of two of the gears in gears are swapped.  The red gear is 
blue and the blue gear is red.  The green gear is correct.

I chopped out all of the _r200_render_stage stuff from r200_swtcl.c.  It 
is unused (due to bad interactions with UT2k3), and was only confusing 
me.  When this patch gets committed, that code can go back in, I think.

There are two hacks that I had to do to get things working.  Neither of 
these needed to be done by the i830 or savage drivers.  First, I had to 
add a viewport matrix that remains an identity matrix.  This is 
because the Radeon chips do the viewport transform in hardware. 
tnl_dd/t_dd_vbtmp.h had the ability to handle hardware like this, but 
t_vertex apparently does not. 
Just specify that element as 'EMIT_4F' or 'EMIT_3F', rather than 
'EMIT_4F_VIEWPORT'.

Second, I had to force TNL to always 
produce project coordinates.  Again, the Radeon hardware can do the 
final projection in hardware almost all the time, but due to the way the 
i830 and savage drivers use use tnl-vb.NdcPtr (actually VB-NdcPtr) I 
couldn't see a way around this.  I may just be missing something there.

I do have one other question that probably only Keith or Daniel can 
answer. :)  Can t_vertex replace the immediate-mode API code-gen in the 
radeon and r200 drivers?  It seems like it should be able to, but I'm 
not sure I can see exactly how.  Does the HW TCL side just need a 
tnl_attr_map just like the SW TCL side?  I think looking at the SW TCL 
code for so long has fried my brain...
The immediate-mode codegen pretty much cuts out the tnl module altogether and 
builds hardware vertices directly.  The t_vertex.c code would be redundant in 
that case.  If you just mean using this logic to determine the vertex format, 
I suppose it's possible, but you'll run into differences between what is 
needed pre-TCL vs. what is being calculated here for vertices post-TCL.

In any case, I won't have a chance to look at this again in until 
probably next Wednesday.  If someone could pick this up and finish it 
off, that would be cool.  I think it's more important to get it done 
soon than have my name in the commit log. :)

-#define IND (R200_XYZW_BIT|R200_RGBA_BIT|R200_SPEC_BIT)
-#define TAG(x) x##_wgfs
-#include tnl_dd/t_dd_vbtmp.h
+#define EMIT_PAD( N )			\
+do {	\
+   rmesa-swtcl.vertex_attrs[rmesa-swtcl.vertex_attr_count].attrib = 0;		\
+   rmesa-swtcl.vertex_attrs[rmesa-swtcl.vertex_attr_count].format = EMIT_PAD;	\
+   rmesa-swtcl.vertex_attrs[rmesa-swtcl.vertex_attr_count].offset = (N);		\
+   rmesa-swtcl.vertex_attr_count++;	\
+} while (0)
 
-#define IND (R200_XYZW_BIT|R200_RGBA_BIT|R200_SPEC_BIT|\
-	 R200_TEX0_BIT)
-#define TAG(x) x##_wgfst0
-#include tnl_dd/t_dd_vbtmp.h
+static void r200SetVertexFormat( GLcontext *ctx )
+{
+   r200ContextPtr rmesa = R200_CONTEXT( ctx );
+   TNLcontext *tnl = TNL_CONTEXT(ctx);
+   struct vertex_buffer *VB = tnl-vb;
+   GLuint index = tnl-render_inputs;
+   int fmt_0;
+   int fmt_1;
+   GLboolean is_tiny = GL_TRUE;
 
-#define IND (R200_XYZW_BIT|R200_RGBA_BIT|R200_SPEC_BIT|\
-	 R200_TEX0_BIT|R200_PTEX_BIT)
-#define TAG(x) x##_wgfspt0
-#include tnl_dd/t_dd_vbtmp.h
 
-#define IND (R200_XYZW_BIT|R200_RGBA_BIT|R200_SPEC_BIT|\
-	 R200_TEX0_BIT|R200_TEX1_BIT)
-#define TAG(x) x##_wgfst0t1
-#include tnl_dd/t_dd_vbtmp.h
+   /* Important:
+*/
+   VB-AttribPtr[VERT_ATTRIB_POS] = VB-NdcPtr;
+   assert( VB-NdcPtr != NULL );
+   rmesa-swtcl.vertex_attr_count = 0;
 
-#define IND (R200_XYZW_BIT|R200_RGBA_BIT|R200_SPEC_BIT|\
-	 R200_TEX0_BIT|R200_TEX1_BIT|R200_PTEX_BIT)
-#define TAG(x) x##_wgfspt0t1
-#include tnl_dd/t_dd_vbtmp.h
+   fmt_0 = R200_VTX_XY | R200_VTX_Z0;
+   fmt_1 = 0;
 
+   /* EMIT_ATTR's must be in order as they tell t_vertex.c how to
+* build up a hardware vertex.
+*/
+   if (index  (_TNL_BITS_TEX_ANY | _TNL_BIT_COLOR1 | _TNL_BIT_FOG)) {
+  EMIT_ATTR( _TNL_ATTRIB_POS, EMIT_4F_VIEWPORT, R200_VTX_W0 );
+  is_tiny = GL_FALSE;
+   }
+   else {
+  EMIT_ATTR( _TNL_ATTRIB_POS, EMIT_3F_VIEWPORT, 0 );
+   }
Here specifically -- if you don't want to do viewport transform in sw, don't 
tell t_vertex.c to EMIT_xF_VIEWPORT.

Also - I'm not sure why you feel that COLOR1 or FOG (vertex fog, right?) 
require the W coordinate, though certainly the old code did work that way, 
this new code will differ from the old code in other respects so why maintain 
this old limitiation?


-/***
- * Initialization 
- 

Re: [Dri-devel] DRI/Xfree86 Merge

2004-04-17 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 01:18:49AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 00:00, Alan Hourihane wrote:
  
  I could merge in XFree86 4.3.99.902 which is before the license change
 
 Are you sure? AFAIK David applied the new license (or at least a
 similarly controversial one) to some files before it was publicly
 announced.
 
Yes, I'm positive that 4.3.99.902 is unencumbered.

  and closer to what X.Org went with for now.
  
  That will bring us closer to both trees. And then we can delay a
  decision until things have settled on both sides of the pond, and see
  where the land lies.
 
 Assuming it's really clear, I'm fine with your proposal, although I
 don't see XFree86 suddenly changing their mind...

I'm not talking about them changing their mind, just on how things are
panning out.

Alan.


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Re: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] Convert r128 driver in linux kernel 2.6 to use userland firmware loading

2004-04-17 Thread Alan Cox
On Sad, 2004-04-17 at 06:44, Ryan Underwood wrote:
 3) Neither of these is ok, must go into non-free because binary-only
 firmware doesnt meet DFSG (no source) regardless of its license.  Either
 whole driver must go into non-free, or a crippled driver is provided in
 main and a userspace loader in non-free to add the missing
 functionality.

This is the answer I was given by lawyers. The analogy they use is
an interesting but sensible one. If I add a chapter to a book it is
clearly a derivative work, if I bundle the one work with a second
pamphlet containing the chapter I wrote then it is not.

 3 is a rather zealous approach, but seemed to be the approach that the
 do-ers on this issue are taking.  I sympathize with the idealists on

I don't think its zealots so much as appropriate legal practice. In
the Linux case we now have a good hotplug firmware loading interface 
and drivers can practically ask for specific firmware. It also reduces
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Re: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] Convert r128 driver in linux kernel 2.6 to use userland firmware loading

2004-04-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 07:44, Ryan Underwood wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 03:03:04AM +0200, Michel Dnzer wrote:
 
   It allows for the microcode to be updated without replacing the kernel, 
   which is not a bad thing anyway.
 
 But changing the microcode would change the driver-chip interface
 anyway.  So you'd have to update the driver too.  Keeping the driver and
 the userspace loader in sync might be...erm.. painful.
 
 If a userspace approach to firmware loading is pursued, perhaps a better
 approach is like the modprobe approach.  When the XFree86 driver for a
 piece of hardware initializes, it would do a kernel probe for the
 firmware for this device, corresponding to the particular version of the
 driver that is running.  The kernel would call a firmware loading binary
 (like it calls /sbin/modprobe or whatever is in that /proc entry)
 telling it what driver is asking and what version of the driver.  Based
 on that information, the userspace loader can decide which version of
 the microcode to load up.  If that version is not available, exit with
 failure and the kernel should then return failure to the application, so
 it knows that the proper microcode that particular driver version was
 written against was unable to be found, and to disable features which
 would require a loaded microcode.

I don't think such a complicated scheme is needed? Just encode the
microcode version in the filename and try to load any supported version,
from most to least preferred?


I mostly agree with your other points.


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Re: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] R200 t_vertex conversion

2004-04-17 Thread Keith Whitwell
Ian Romanick wrote:
This is what I have done so far to convert the R200 driver to use 
t_vertex.  It is only a conversion for SW TCL, and it's not quite 
complete.  I've managed to clean up all the crashes that I could find, 
but I've only tested with gears, geartrain, and tunnel.  There are some 
known problems:

- The textures in tunnel are not quite right.  They're sort of zig-zaggy.
- The colors of two of the gears in gears are swapped.  The red gear is 
blue and the blue gear is red.  The green gear is correct.

I chopped out all of the _r200_render_stage stuff from r200_swtcl.c.  It 
is unused (due to bad interactions with UT2k3), and was only confusing 
me.  When this patch gets committed, that code can go back in, I think.

There are two hacks that I had to do to get things working.  Neither of 
these needed to be done by the i830 or savage drivers.  First, I had to 
add a viewport matrix that remains an identity matrix.  This is 
because the Radeon chips do the viewport transform in hardware. 
tnl_dd/t_dd_vbtmp.h had the ability to handle hardware like this, but 
t_vertex apparently does not.  Second, I had to force TNL to always 
produce project coordinates.  Again, the Radeon hardware can do the 
final projection in hardware almost all the time, but due to the way the 
i830 and savage drivers use use tnl-vb.NdcPtr (actually VB-NdcPtr) I 
couldn't see a way around this.  I may just be missing something there.
Ah, ok.  I see the problem.  Basically this has to do with the fact that 
choosing the hw vertex format has gone from being something (normally) done 
ahead of time, prior to actually running the tnl pipeline, to something done 
after that, and based on its results.  The only problem is that by this time, 
the pipeline has run, and it's too late to decide whether or not to calculate 
projected coordinates.  Oh well, it's not too hard to do that ahead of time.

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[Dri-devel] Build problems on FreeBSD

2004-04-17 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff

I can't get a current version of the DRI cvs to build on FreeBSD any more:

cd ./config/makedepend  make -f Makefile.proto bootstrap
Makefile.proto, line 30: Need an operator
Makefile.proto, line 81: Need an operator
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/home/adamk/FreeBSD/xc/xc.

This happens almost immediately.  Any ideas?

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Re: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] Convert r128 driver in linux kernel 2.6 to use userland firmware loading

2004-04-17 Thread Ryan Underwood

On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 09:36:24AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
 
 This is the answer I was given by lawyers. The analogy they use is
 an interesting but sensible one. If I add a chapter to a book it is
 clearly a derivative work, if I bundle the one work with a second
 pamphlet containing the chapter I wrote then it is not.

It seems digging up some case law on the matter would be better than
using analogies.  Firmware could already be considered to be the
pamphlet that is bundled with the book (the driver) because the
firmware is not part of the driver in terms of functionality;  it
happens to be bundled with the driver because that is the most
convenient way to get it into the hardware.  Execution of the driver
code never reaches the firmware and could not because it is not encoded
in the instruction set of the host that the driver is running on.

Of course, if the legal advice you refer to was specifically aimed at
the firmware scenario, where you have a blob of who-knows-what that does
not execute on the host embedded into a driver binary, then I'm not one
to argue with that.

 I don't think its zealots so much as appropriate legal practice. In
 the Linux case we now have a good hotplug firmware loading interface 
 and drivers can practically ask for specific firmware. It also reduces
 the unswappable kernel size

Sure.  I won't argue with people that are making the existing systems
more flexible.  My beef is mainly that a lot of people are considering
sourceless firmware to be outside the DFSG, which amounts to an
inconvenience to users for a dubious political gain.  But that is
off-topic for dri-devel probably.

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Re: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] Convert r128 driver in linux kernel 2.6 to use userland firmware loading

2004-04-17 Thread Ryan Underwood

On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 03:33:16PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 
 I don't think such a complicated scheme is needed? Just encode the
 microcode version in the filename and try to load any supported version,
 from most to least preferred?

I think that's what I meant.  Point being, have the kernel call out to a
userspace loader on the driver's behalf, instead of the user running a
loader like Nathaniel's in an init script or something.  I was also
reminding folks of the importance of versioning of the driver vs the
firmware, because one of his comments seemed to imply that you could
upgrade the microcode to a new version without changes to the driver.
This is not always true because the command interface may change from
revision to revision of the microcode.

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Re: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] Convert r128 driver in linux kernel 2.6 to use userland firmware loading

2004-04-17 Thread Mike Mestnik

--- Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 23:02, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
  Michel Dänzer wrote:
   On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 22:00, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
   
  This is a diff for drivers/char/drm to make r128 use
 userland-loadable
  firmware.  
   
   Sigh, is this really necessary? :\
  It allows for the microcode to be updated without replacing the
 kernel, 
  which is not a bad thing anyway.
 
 I'm not sure it ever has changed or will change... we both know the
 background of this; IMHO it's an inconvenience for users for little or
 no gain of freedom.
 
I know the firmware is not all that large but every page counts.  Freeing
it from the mod will reduce it's memory foot print.  Though your right
there is little or no gain of freedom.






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Re: [Dri-devel] Build problems on FreeBSD

2004-04-17 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff

Never mind  Stupid mistake on my part.

Adam

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:


 I can't get a current version of the DRI cvs to build on FreeBSD any more:

 cd ./config/makedepend  make -f Makefile.proto bootstrap
 Makefile.proto, line 30: Need an operator
 Makefile.proto, line 81: Need an operator
 make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/home/adamk/FreeBSD/xc/xc.

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Re: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] Convert r128 driver in linux kernel 2.6 to use userland firmware loading

2004-04-17 Thread Alan Cox
On Sad, 2004-04-17 at 19:40, Ryan Underwood wrote:
 Of course, if the legal advice you refer to was specifically aimed at
 the firmware scenario, where you have a blob of who-knows-what that does
 not execute on the host embedded into a driver binary, then I'm not one
 to argue with that.

It was specifically in response to the question about firmware, and
whether it would be better if firmware was seperated. I don't know
of any direct case law on embedding firmware and at what point it
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Re: [Dri-devel] [PATCH] Convert r128 driver in linux kernel 2.6 to use userland firmware loading

2004-04-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 20:46, Ryan Underwood wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 03:33:16PM +0200, Michel Dnzer wrote:
  
  I don't think such a complicated scheme is needed? Just encode the
  microcode version in the filename and try to load any supported version,
  from most to least preferred?
 
 I think that's what I meant.  Point being, have the kernel call out to a
 userspace loader on the driver's behalf, instead of the user running a
 loader like Nathaniel's in an init script or something.  

My understanding is that the firmware loader interface he uses works
similar to your description, via hotplug events.

 I was also reminding folks of the importance of versioning of the driver 
 vs the firmware, because one of his comments seemed to imply that you 
 could upgrade the microcode to a new version without changes to the 
 driver. This is not always true because the command interface may change 
 from revision to revision of the microcode.

Indeed, the microcode should definitely be versioned.


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Re: [Dri-devel] Makefiles in the drm module

2004-04-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 16:19, Keith Whitwell wrote: 
 Michel Dnzer wrote:
  Does anything speak against repo-moving Makefile.{bsd,linux} to
  Makefile?
 
 I can't think of any reason not to.

Turns out a simple repo-move doesn't work for Makefile.linux as it
contains some Makefile juggling hacks. The attached diff shows the
difference between Makefile.linux and the new Makefile which I'm going
to commit soon, unless someone objects.

Given this, I'm leaving Makefile.bsd to someone who can test it.

Also, should I try to fix up the snapshot scripts, or leave that to the
people dealing with the snapshots?


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--- ../drm-apply/linux/Makefile.linux	2004-04-12 07:27:36.0 +0200
+++ linux/Makefile	2004-04-18 01:38:05.821198111 +0200
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 # platforms in a flexible way by David Dawes.  It's not clear, however,
 # that this approach is simpler than the old one.
 #
-# The purpose of this Makefile.linux file is to handle setting up everything
+# The purpose of this Makefile is to handle setting up everything
 # needed for an out-of-kernel source build.  Makefile.kernel contains
 # everything required for in-kernel source builds.  It is included into
 # this file, so none of that should be duplicated here.
@@ -18,17 +18,17 @@
 # By default, the build is done against the running linux kernel source.
 # To build against a different kernel source tree, set LINUXDIR:
 #
-#make -f Makefile.linux LINUXDIR=/path/to/kernel/source
+#make LINUXDIR=/path/to/kernel/source
 
 #
 # To build only some modules, either set DRM_MODULES to the list of modules,
 # or specify the modules as targets:
 #
-#make -f Makefile.linux r128.o radeon.o
+#make r128.o radeon.o
 #
 # or:
 #
-#make -f Makefile.linux DRM_MODULES=r128 radeon
+#make DRM_MODULES=r128 radeon
 #
 
 SHELL=/bin/sh
@@ -157,24 +157,10 @@ ifeq ($(CLEANCONFIG),y)
 CLEANFILES += $(LINUXDIR)/.config .config $(LINUXDIR)/tmp_include_depends
 endif
 
-# The Makefile renaming hack is required because the standard kernel build,
-# especially 2.5.52 and later, explicitly references the Makefile by the
-# name Makefile.  For builds prior to 2.5.52, the name GNUmakefile could
-# have been used.
-
 all: modules
 
 modules: includes
-	@if test -f Makefile  cmp -s Makefile Makefile.linux; then : ; \
-	  else \
-		if [ -e Makefile ]; then \
-			(set -x; mv -f Makefile Makefile._xx_); fi; \
-		(set -x; ln -s Makefile.linux Makefile); fi
 	make -C $(LINUXDIR) $(GETCONFIG) SUBDIRS=`pwd` DRMSRCDIR=`pwd` modules
-	@if cmp -s Makefile Makefile.linux; then \
-		(set -x; rm -f Makefile); \
-		if [ -e Makefile._xx_ ]; then \
-			(set -x; mv -f Makefile._xx_ Makefile); fi; fi
 
 ifeq ($(HEADERFROMBOOT),1)
 
@@ -241,7 +227,7 @@ clean cleandir:
 	rm -f $(CLEANFILES)
 
 $(MODULE_LIST)::
-	make -f Makefile.linux DRM_MODULES=$@ modules
+	make DRM_MODULES=$@ modules
 
 # Build test utilities
 


[Dri-devel] Questions about current status of DRI

2004-04-17 Thread Vladimir Dergachev

Hi guys, I've been busy for a while, but summer is approaching with the
possibility of some spare time, so I have several questions about current
status of DRI:

  1. I could not find a link to the newer ViewCVS interface on the website
- does it exist ?

  2. Is anyone working on accelerated 3d for newer Radeons (R300, etc) ?

  3. Can anyone tell me what changes are required in order to enable
 idle DRI for R300 and above ? (I.e. DRM module starts up, 2d
 commands go through DRM , but Mesa driver does software rendering).

 This is a question about DRI architecture, not hardware. I.e. if
 part of this functionality involves hardware that's changed in R300
 it also falls in idle category.

  4. Are there any examples of user-space applications accessing DRM, the
 same way Mesa driver does, but (hopefully) simpler ? I might have
 some success in figuring out CP sequences and present the result as a
 user-space library, but I doubt I will have time to dig inside Mesa.

  5. I remember there was someone working to merge current GATOS code into
 DRI - did these changes made it into DRI CVS ?

thank you very much !

  Vladimir Dergachev


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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Finally looking at the DRI SMP issues - Yahooo! (fps 30-31 fps up)!

2004-04-17 Thread bill
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:35:14AM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote:
 The r200 is the clear bottleneck, now
 What we need next is the TMU3 patch...;-)
 
 I'm still trying to work through the t_vertex conversion.  That should 
 help some too.  Of course, Quake3 only uses 2 TMUs anyway.  I'll post 
 what I have for the t_vertex conversion (working or not!) later today. 
 Maybe someone will be able to see what I'm doing wrong...

QuakeForge uses 3 tmus for map rendering (wall textures + lightmap +
fullbrights) if available.

Bill
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Re: [Dri-devel] Questions about current status of DRI

2004-04-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 03:19, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:
 
   1. I could not find a link to the newer ViewCVS interface on the website
 - does it exist ?

http://dri.freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/dri/


   2. Is anyone working on accelerated 3d for newer Radeons (R300, etc) ?

Not that I know of.


   3. Can anyone tell me what changes are required in order to enable
  idle DRI for R300 and above ? (I.e. DRM module starts up, 2d
  commands go through DRM , but Mesa driver does software rendering).

The infamous CP microcode is needed. AFAIK, Benjamin Herrenschmidt got
it from ATI.


   4. Are there any examples of user-space applications accessing DRM, the
  same way Mesa driver does, but (hopefully) simpler ? 

I don't know of any.

  I might have some success in figuring out CP sequences and present the 
  result as a user-space library, but I doubt I will have time to dig 
  inside Mesa.

We have the docs, no need to guess... note that unprivileged user space
processes can't emit CP commands directly but can only use higher level
ioctls geared towards the 3D driver. May I ask what goal you are trying
to achieve?


   5. I remember there was someone working to merge current GATOS code into
  DRI - did these changes made it into DRI CVS ?

The GATOS DRM doesn't have anything that needs merging, does it? For the
other code, the DRI tree isn't the right target IMHO.


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Re: [Dri-devel] Questions about current status of DRI

2004-04-17 Thread ajax
On Saturday 17 April 2004 20:19, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:

   4. Are there any examples of user-space applications accessing DRM, the
  same way Mesa driver does, but (hopefully) simpler ? I might have
  some success in figuring out CP sequences and present the result as a
  user-space library, but I doubt I will have time to dig inside Mesa.

tests/drmstat.c in the drm/ module perhaps?

(It strikes me that those won't build at all right now since they've been 
moved...)

- ajax


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Re: [Dri-devel] DRI/Xfree86 Merge

2004-04-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 07:54, Alan Hourihane wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 01:18:49AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
  On Sat, 2004-04-17 at 00:00, Alan Hourihane wrote:
   
   I could merge in XFree86 4.3.99.902 which is before the license change
  
  Are you sure? AFAIK David applied the new license (or at least a
  similarly controversial one) to some files before it was publicly
  announced.
  
 Yes, I'm positive that 4.3.99.902 is unencumbered.

I'm pretty sure the autoconfig work, under the X-Oz license (nearly
identical to the problematic one), was in at that point.
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Re: [Dri-devel] Questions about current status of DRI

2004-04-17 Thread Vladimir Dergachev


On Sun, 18 Apr 2004, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dnzer wrote:

 On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 03:19, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:
 
1. I could not find a link to the newer ViewCVS interface on the website
  - does it exist ?

 http://dri.freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/dri/


Thank you !



3. Can anyone tell me what changes are required in order to enable
   idle DRI for R300 and above ? (I.e. DRM module starts up, 2d
   commands go through DRM , but Mesa driver does software rendering).

 The infamous CP microcode is needed. AFAIK, Benjamin Herrenschmidt got
 it from ATI.


I might have it too, though one can never tell whether it works without
experiment (i.e. it might just be a copy of R200 microcode).


   I might have some success in figuring out CP sequences and present the
   result as a user-space library, but I doubt I will have time to dig
   inside Mesa.

 We have the docs, no need to guess... note that unprivileged user space
 processes can't emit CP commands directly but can only use higher level
 ioctls geared towards the 3D driver. May I ask what goal you are trying
 to achieve?

Well, I wanted to make an example app that exercises as many 3d related
capability as possible. With the hope that once this is published people
with more knowledge of Mesa internals would be tempted to make a real
driver.

Also, it is possible to access CP fifo via MMIO registers - if I remember
this right. That was going to be my second choice, with the preference of
connecting to DRM module directly.



5. I remember there was someone working to merge current GATOS code into
   DRI - did these changes made it into DRI CVS ?

 The GATOS DRM doesn't have anything that needs merging, does it? For the
 other code, the DRI tree isn't the right target IMHO.

No, I meant the code that makes TV-in work. I was incredibly busy this
year and did not have time to start porting to 4.4.0 codebase.

 best

Vladimir Dergachev



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Re: [Dri-devel] Questions about current status of DRI

2004-04-17 Thread Dave Airlie

 The infamous CP microcode is needed. AFAIK, Benjamin Herrenschmidt got
 it from ATI.

the BeOS driver has some r300 microcode in its sources...
http://www.bebits.com/appver/2938
download the r5 source at look at CPMicroCode.h in the file...

no idea what it is of course it might be 2d only or something wierd..

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Re: [Dri-devel] Questions about current status of DRI

2004-04-17 Thread Vladimir Dergachev


On Sun, 18 Apr 2004, Dave Airlie wrote:


  The infamous CP microcode is needed. AFAIK, Benjamin Herrenschmidt got
  it from ATI.

 the BeOS driver has some r300 microcode in its sources...
 http://www.bebits.com/appver/2938
 download the r5 source at look at CPMicroCode.h in the file...

 no idea what it is of course it might be 2d only or something wierd..

Yep, it matches the code I see in the DDK. So it appears that the only
thing left to get 3d working is to find/verify packets for CP engine.

 best

Vladimir Dergachev


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