OT: BESx and Java updates
Hi all. I'm sort of feeling like I'm caught between a rock and a dumb place here. On the one hand, I've got my security guys telling me that Java 6 upd 18 that was installed by BESx has multiple vulnerabilities, and that I need to upgrade it or remove it, and on the other hand, I've got the folks at Blackberry saying don't mess with the included version of Java. How are you other BES admins dealing with this? -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: OT: BESx and Java updates
I've been upgrading Java versions...throwing caution to the wind. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I'm sort of feeling like I'm caught between a rock and a dumb place here. On the one hand, I've got my security guys telling me that Java 6 upd 18 that was installed by BESx has multiple vulnerabilities, and that I need to upgrade it or remove it, and on the other hand, I've got the folks at Blackberry saying don't mess with the included version of Java. How are you other BES admins dealing with this? -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: OT: BESx and Java updates
I stayed with update 18 as when I moved off of it BAS stopped working. I am about to upgrade from BES 5.0.2 to 5.0.3 in the next few weeks so will see if that changes anything with this issue. Alice From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: BESx and Java updates I've been upgrading Java versions...throwing caution to the wind. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I'm sort of feeling like I'm caught between a rock and a dumb place here. On the one hand, I've got my security guys telling me that Java 6 upd 18 that was installed by BESx has multiple vulnerabilities, and that I need to upgrade it or remove it, and on the other hand, I've got the folks at Blackberry saying don't mess with the included version of Java. How are you other BES admins dealing with this? -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Hallelujah, brother. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 I'm still not happy about the weird things the EMS does because it has to get all SOAPy and pretend there's a cloud between my workstation and the Exchange server in the next room. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 I won't disagree... I'm having a hard time determining who to dislike more. MS for pretty much rendering MAPI useless or the vendors for not keeping up with MS... It does piss me off that MS crippled MAPI support for other software and they have no intention of going away from that plan. Had the argument with my TAM, PSS, and others... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Don Ely [don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.netmailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
The answer is: Direct Access. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 I wonder if MS' answer is gee, you don't need BES or RIM for that matter - just expose your mail system to the internet - what? - can't get to your other intranet servers? - just expose them too - it should all be open or something... From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 I won't disagree... I'm having a hard time determining who to dislike more. MS for pretty much rendering MAPI useless or the vendors for not keeping up with MS... It does piss me off that MS crippled MAPI support for other software and they have no intention of going away from that plan. Had the argument with my TAM, PSS, and others... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Don Ely [don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.netmailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send
to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Can you install the tools on your desktop 64-bit machine and run an elevated Powershell session with Mailbox Import/Export role? From: bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] on behalf of Bill Songstad [bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 December 2010 22:57 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Thats how I did it on my last Exchange 2007 migration. Gavin. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukwrote: Can you install the tools on your desktop 64-bit machine and run an elevated Powershell session with Mailbox Import/Export role? -- *From:* bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [ bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] on behalf of Bill Songstad [bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 22 December 2010 22:57 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- Gavin Wilby, Twitter: http://twitter.com/gavin_wilby GSXR Blog: http://www.stoof.co.uk --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
The assumption of Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine goes away with Exchange 2010 sp1. It's no longer required. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
dunno. will give it a go. just found this article hidden in technet. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee633455.aspx It suggests that the Outlook 2010 requirement was only for Pre SP1. So that could be my savior. I'll try uninstalling the Outlook and running the import. Hpefully my original assumption was wrong. -Bill On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukwrote: Can you install the tools on your desktop 64-bit machine and run an elevated Powershell session with Mailbox Import/Export role? -- *From:* bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [ bounce-9214480-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] on behalf of Bill Songstad [bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 22 December 2010 22:57 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you the refrigerator for all the times you've saved my bacon. -Bill On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: The “assumption” of “Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine” goes away with Exchange 2010 sp1. It’s no longer required. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
LOL, that is great. Michael The Refrigerator Smith I've always thought Michael was one cool character. Actually, a frig removes heat and doesn't make things cold. So MBS actually takes the heat off of poor common folk and makes us just look cool to our bosses and peers. Thanks Frig. Webster From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you the refrigerator for all the times you've saved my bacon. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
There's BACON? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you the refrigerator for all the times you've saved my bacon. -Bill On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The assumption of Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine goes away with Exchange 2010 sp1. It's no longer required. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
IF there wasn't, I'd be disappointed. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: There’s BACON? *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:31 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Once again I must bow in humility to the master. Thanks Michael I'm going to have to start calling you the refrigerator for all the times you've saved my bacon. -Bill On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The “assumption” of “Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine” goes away with Exchange 2010 sp1. It’s no longer required. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
They are supposed to since MS doesn't really like CDO anymore. And RIM has numerous support calls going right now with BES and 2010 installs... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 00:26:18 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn’t RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Yes. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry *From*: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] *Sent*: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn’t RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Don Ely [don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.netmailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn’t RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
I won't disagree... I'm having a hard time determining who to dislike more. MS for pretty much rendering MAPI useless or the vendors for not keeping up with MS... It does piss me off that MS crippled MAPI support for other software and they have no intention of going away from that plan. Had the argument with my TAM, PSS, and others... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ -- *From:* Don Ely [don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry *From*: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] *Sent*: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn’t RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
I wonder if MS' answer is gee, you don't need BES or RIM for that matter - just expose your mail system to the internet - what? - can't get to your other intranet servers? - just expose them too - it should all be open or something... From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 I won't disagree... I'm having a hard time determining who to dislike more. MS for pretty much rendering MAPI useless or the vendors for not keeping up with MS... It does piss me off that MS crippled MAPI support for other software and they have no intention of going away from that plan. Had the argument with my TAM, PSS, and others... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Don Ely [don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.netmailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana
RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010
I'm still not happy about the weird things the EMS does because it has to get all SOAPy and pretend there's a cloud between my workstation and the Exchange server in the next room. From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 I won't disagree... I'm having a hard time determining who to dislike more. MS for pretty much rendering MAPI useless or the vendors for not keeping up with MS... It does piss me off that MS crippled MAPI support for other software and they have no intention of going away from that plan. Had the argument with my TAM, PSS, and others... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: The challenge (of course - at least from my perspective) is that EWS doesn't provide as many capabilities as the MAPI service. SO... they have some challenges. I've migrated several applications from MAPI to EWS (c++ to c#) and there are just some things you can't do in EWS - you have to use LDAP if you aren't using MAPI. This makes some things much more difficult. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Don Ely [don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Given that the EWS version is STILL not available, I would guess you have some time before this becomes an issue... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edumailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Would be nice but it leaves pre 2007 Exchange shops SOL. ;) -- Sent using BlackBerry From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.netmailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 07:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 Wasn't RIM supposed to be converting everything over to EWS, and quit using CDO? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.commailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to CDO or not CDO? or BESx with EX2010 situation: mail=server1: exchange server 2010 besx=server2: member server in domain Requirements: import and export mailbox data use BESx to update calendars Assumptions: MS requires Outlook 2010 on the mail store machine to import and export pst files RIM requires CDO 1.2.1 on exchange server for calendars to function correctly Problem: Outlook 2010 cannot coexist with CDO 1.2.1 Do I need to give up a requirement or purchase another exchange server? RIM support says remove Outlook. MS knowledgebase says RIM is lieing. Has anybody been down this road before? I could sure use some insight, -Bill --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage
BESX
Question for you BESX experts. When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via USB to the server. Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and the over the air activation doesn't work. Thanks. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESX
Any machine with the BES Manager for 4.1 or with access to the BESAdmin page 5.0 can activate, with BES Enterprise you can also allow user access to the web desktop manager to do their activation themselves. -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Question for you BESX experts. When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via USB to the server. Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and the over the air activation doesn't work. Thanks. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESX
Small point but you have to use Internet Explorer. Don't waste lots of time using Chrome wondering why it isn't working. Not that I know anyone who's done that... -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: 01 December 2010 16:00 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Question for you BESX experts. When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via USB to the server. Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and the over the air activation doesn't work. Thanks. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESX
Thanks for the info, although I don't use chrome or firefox, call me a diehard IE user. -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESX Small point but you have to use Internet Explorer. Don't waste lots of time using Chrome wondering why it isn't working. Not that I know anyone who's done that... -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: 01 December 2010 16:00 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Question for you BESX experts. When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via USB to the server. Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and the over the air activation doesn't work. Thanks. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESX
Thanks for the assurance. Just activated our first phone. Easy peasy. -Original Message- From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESX Any machine with the BES Manager for 4.1 or with access to the BESAdmin page 5.0 can activate, with BES Enterprise you can also allow user access to the web desktop manager to do their activation themselves. -Original Message- From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:00 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Question for you BESX experts. When you run the server virtual, ie, no USB ports, can you activate a handheld by connecting it to my workstation, accessing the besadmin web page from that workstation or does the handheld have to be connected via USB to the server. Apparently I have some users that don't have the proper data plan and the over the air activation doesn't work. Thanks. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: BESx?
We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. -- *From:* Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto: daniel.casti...@hp.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Yes BESx can be put on your exchange box but there's plenty of arguments out there as to why you don't want to install 3rd party apps on your exchange box. From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: BESx?
My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. -- *From:* Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto: daniel.casti...@hp.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
I’d guess the same as normal BES, in the region of £60-70/CAL. From: bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Hrvoje Špiranec Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
My understanding (from the person that handles BlackBerries) is that BESx does not require CALs and that is the reason it is desirable (as opposed to regular old BES). From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? I’d guess the same as normal BES, in the region of £60-70/CAL. From: bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Hrvoje Špiranec Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry. Regarding where to install it, my understanding is you can install it on the Exchange box for less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless (apparently reboot the BES is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems but that's anecdotal). From: Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Lovely, thanks for that. From: bounce-9165018-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9165018-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Mayo, Bill Sent: 10 November 2010 15:09 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? My understanding (from the person that handles BlackBerries) is that BESx does not require CALs and that is the reason it is desirable (as opposed to regular old BES). From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:07 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? I’d guess the same as normal BES, in the region of £60-70/CAL. From: bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9165000-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Hrvoje Špiranec Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: BESx?
I'll concur. I reboot my BES about 3 times as often as the Exchange server. 2010/11/10 Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry. Regarding where to install it, my understanding is you *can* install it on the Exchange box for less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless (apparently reboot the BES is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems but that's anecdotal). *From:* Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] *Sent:* 10 November 2010 14:58 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? *From:* Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. -- *From:* Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto: daniel.casti...@hp.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist -- *MIRA Ltd* Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: BESx?
Just to throw one out there, we're looking at Blackberry right now though it's currently not past the let's see if we can get some on loan stage. Can anyone throw anything at me from the BES Express perspective that is either spectacularly good or spectacularly bad? We're just looking to do the usual things and have some management of our mobiles - I don't think right now that we want to get especially control freaky. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 16:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? I'll concur. I reboot my BES about 3 times as often as the Exchange server. 2010/11/10 Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry. Regarding where to install it, my understanding is you can install it on the Exchange box for less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless (apparently reboot the BES is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems but that's anecdotal). From: Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes, the free version of BES. Anything to share from your experience? Regards, ~D --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the e-mail as this is prohibited. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums
RE: BESx?
The case for Blackberries over Iphone/Droid/WM currently is pretty straight forward. 1.Security on the phone is hardened. Its tried/trued. 2. Management. There is nothing you cannot control about a Blackberry from the tools. Droid, Iphone, WM, you have some semblance but not even close to a Blackberry 3. Activation. Its easy. Ensure your provider has it provisioned. They receive it, create the account on the BES box, give them a password or send it to their email through the tools and walk them through it. Done. Very hands off. Send one to the other side of the world and a monkey can activate it. 4. If you need to access files/folders or web sites on the same network as the BES server without complicating VPN's etc. They can do it all from the phone. Web access is built right in, files/folders takes some config work on the BES box. 5. Wipe and ensure your data is gone. Cant guarantee that with any of the other phones. If it gets the kill, it's a brick.. 6. Downsides. Management..Server resources..Another app to babysit, when it breaks..It breaks big..in my experience. 7. Free software, no cals required, free installation support, optional tech support contract, does 90% of what you want to do. Big Daddy BES does things with MDS, apps, tracking of SMS messages, compliance things mostly etc..Things most of our SMB's don't deal with. Saying all that we have 8 clients on BESx moved from SMB edition or Professional. Very little issues overall. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Just to throw one out there, we're looking at Blackberry right now though it's currently not past the let's see if we can get some on loan stage. Can anyone throw anything at me from the BES Express perspective that is either spectacularly good or spectacularly bad? We're just looking to do the usual things and have some management of our mobiles - I don't think right now that we want to get especially control freaky. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 16:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? I'll concur. I reboot my BES about 3 times as often as the Exchange server. 2010/11/10 Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukmailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk Express is free other than tariff costs to have a Blackberry. Regarding where to install it, my understanding is you can install it on the Exchange box for less than 75 users, but it's recommended to use a dedicated box regardless (apparently reboot the BES is quite a commonly proffered solution to problems but that's anecdotal). From: Hrvoje Špiranec [mailto:hrv...@albuslinea.commailto:hrv...@albuslinea.com] Sent: 10 November 2010 14:58 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? Does anyone know what is the price on additional CAL's for BESx? From: Alex Robinson [mailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a small BPS install of 11 users and am migrating to BESX. Thanks, -Alex From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESx? My understanding ON the box install recommended for less than 75 users. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Jeff Brown 2jbr...@gmail.commailto:2jbr...@gmail.com wrote: We dissected our domain, created 2 new E2K7 domains on HV VM's and installed BESx ON both. No worries. some difficulty logging into management console first time, but that's nothing new. On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Alex Robinson robins...@franklinroadacademy.commailto:robins...@franklinroadacademy.com wrote: I have heard conflicting feedback the BESX does not have to be on separate box and can be installed on same Exchange installation. Can feedback be provided on this scenario? -Alex From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:02 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESx? We have a sister company that implemented it and they haven't complained at all. Pretty quick to install and set up. Users were removed from my full BES and activated on their BESx and can't tell the difference. Whole lot faster than using BIS or Http. And yes put it on it's own machine or VM. From: Castillo, Daniel (Directory Services) [mailto:daniel.casti...@hp.commailto:daniel.casti...@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:58 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESx? Hi folks, Has anyone out there deployed Blackberry Express? Yes
BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Doesn't specifically compare against BPS, but should answer some of your questions. http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/business/server/express/ComparisonChart_NA_021610_v3.pdf Thanks, JB From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
I think that's a plain old BLACKBERRY data plan From: David Baca [mailto:dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange - which includes SBS 2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from RIM. The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as normal. You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. The major limitation is the security policies - full BES gives you something like 400, you get 35 on Express. The documentation is here: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the policies available. Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
Simon, Thanks just what i was looking for. David From: Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 3:49:12 PM Subject: RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange – which includes SBS 2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from RIM. The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as normal. You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. The major limitation is the security policies – full BES gives you something like 400, you get 35 on Express. The documentation is here: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the policies available. Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express
It appears to not be qualified on Server 2008 R2. sigh Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Having got my hands on the software - it is for Exchange only. Fully supported with Exchange 2003, 2007 and 2010. Fully supported installed on the same server as Exchange - which includes SBS 2003 and 2008. Fully 64 bit. Although there is an issue with MP3 audio files when the server is installed on Windows 2008. It looks like for fully functionality you have to install it on Windows 2003. That is a bit poor from RIM. The lack of the over the air sync applies to BIS based clients only. If you have the Enterprise plan on the device then you can over the air activate as normal. You can also activate it through the Blackberry Admin Service. The major limitation is the security policies - full BES gives you something like 400, you get 35 on Express. The documentation is here: http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/subcategories/?userType=2category=BlackBerry+Enterprise+Server+Express+for+Microsoft+Exchange It includes the full config and admin guide, plus an Excel spread sheet of the policies available. Very early days, I am working on an installation at the moment, and will probably blog on it later in the week. However I have heard from Howie at port3101.org that he has a number of BIS only devices working fine. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/http://certificatesforexchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/http://domainsforexchange.net/ Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 March 2010 20:35 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Does it support non lotus and non exchange servers Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: David Baca dbaca.gr...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesexchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: BESX Blackberry Enterprise express Has anyone heard anything limiting about this product vs blackberry professional? I read that it does not do OTA activations which is definitely a negative but it's free and you can use it with just a plain old data plan (no BES plan needed) which seems like a major plus. Regards, David
OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Hello, I just updated our BESX 5 server with SP1 and SP1 MR1. The services all start, but the web interfaces are not displaying - none of them. This is true when I try https://localhost/webconsole/login or https://host.domain.net/webconsole/login. Ideas? Sean Rector, MCSE Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season The One You Love Celebrate with a 2009-2010 subscription: La Boh?me?|?The Daughter of the Regiment?|?Don Giovanni?|?Porgy and BessSM Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org or call 1-866-OPERA-VA The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful integration of music, voice and human drama. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments.
Re: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
My login is: /
https://localhost/webconsole/app?page=Loginservice=pageorgId=0
Stefan
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
Hello,
I just updated our BESX 5 server with SP1 and SP1 MR1. The services all
start, but the web interfaces are not displaying – none of them. This is
true when I try https://localhost/webconsole/login or
https://host.domain.net/webconsole/login. Ideas?
Sean Rector, MCSE
Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association
E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org
Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
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*Celebrate with a 2009-2010 subscription:*
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| Don Giovanni http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera3.cfm
| Porgy and BessSMhttp://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera4.cfm
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RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Login should work, there is an issue with UDP and/or TCPPing along these
linestake a look
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB18366
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB19436
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
My login is: /https://localhost/webconsole/app?page=Loginservice=pageorgId=0
Stefan
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
Hello,
I just updated our BESX 5 server with SP1 and SP1 MR1. The services all start,
but the web interfaces are not displaying - none of them. This is true when I
try https://localhost/webconsole/login or
https://host.domain.net/webconsole/login. Ideas?
Sean Rector, MCSE
Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association
E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org
Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
{+}
Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season http://www.vaopera.org/ The One
You Love
Celebrate with a 2009-2010 subscription:
La Bohème http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera1.cfm| The
Daughter of the Regiment http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera2.cfm
| Don Giovanni http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera3.cfm|
Porgy and BessSM http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera4.cfm
Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org http://www.vaopera.org/ or call
1-866-OPERA-VA
The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful
integration of music, voice and human drama.
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RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Stefan - that URL didn't work either.
Jeff - in the 1st article, I didn't have the line in the XML file that it was
discussing. I'm not running HA, so the 2nd article didn't apply.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Login should work, there is an issue with UDP and/or TCPPing along these
linestake a look
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB18366
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB19436
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
My login is: /https://localhost/webconsole/app?page=Loginservice=pageorgId=0
Stefan
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
Hello,
I just updated our BESX 5 server with SP1 and SP1 MR1. The services all start,
but the web interfaces are not displaying - none of them. This is true when I
try https://localhost/webconsole/login or
https://host.domain.net/webconsole/login. Ideas?
Sean Rector, MCSE
Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association
E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org
Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
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| Don Giovanni http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera3.cfm|
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RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
So no dns round robin was used during the setup?? If not, I would verify the
services and check the BAS logs for any errors
Do you have monitoring or web desktop manager running, if so do their URLs
work???
Was this a previously 5.0 environment that was upgraded or a straight build to
SP1 and MR1???
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Stefan - that URL didn't work either.
Jeff - in the 1st article, I didn't have the line in the XML file that it was
discussing. I'm not running HA, so the 2nd article didn't apply.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Login should work, there is an issue with UDP and/or TCPPing along these
linestake a look
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB18366
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB19436
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
My login is: /https://localhost/webconsole/app?page=Loginservice=pageorgId=0
Stefan
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
Hello,
I just updated our BESX 5 server with SP1 and SP1 MR1. The services all start,
but the web interfaces are not displaying - none of them. This is true when I
try https://localhost/webconsole/login or
https://host.domain.net/webconsole/login. Ideas?
Sean Rector, MCSE
Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association
E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org
Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
{+}
Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season http://www.vaopera.org/ The One
You Love
Celebrate with a 2009-2010 subscription:
La Bohème http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera1.cfm| The
Daughter of the Regiment http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera2.cfm
| Don Giovanni http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera3.cfm|
Porgy and BessSM http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera4.cfm
Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org http://www.vaopera.org/ or call
1-866-OPERA-VA
The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful
integration of music, voice and human drama.
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intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as
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opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily
represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to
ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for
any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments.
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--
Stefan Jafs
RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
No round robin DNS - I only have 1 BESX server.
I stopped all services, renamed the 20100203 logs folder and rebooted the
server so I could get a clean set of log files. There is no BBAS_AS log file.
BB Admin Svc (and all BB services) running.
This was 5.0 MR4 and was running fine - up until I installed either or both SP1
and/or SP1 MR1.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
So no dns round robin was used during the setup?? If not, I would verify the
services and check the BAS logs for any errors
Do you have monitoring or web desktop manager running, if so do their URLs
work???
Was this a previously 5.0 environment that was upgraded or a straight build to
SP1 and MR1???
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Stefan - that URL didn't work either.
Jeff - in the 1st article, I didn't have the line in the XML file that it was
discussing. I'm not running HA, so the 2nd article didn't apply.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Login should work, there is an issue with UDP and/or TCPPing along these
linestake a look
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB18366
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB19436
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
My login is: /https://localhost/webconsole/app?page=Loginservice=pageorgId=0
Stefan
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
Hello,
I just updated our BESX 5 server with SP1 and SP1 MR1. The services all start,
but the web interfaces are not displaying - none of them. This is true when I
try https://localhost/webconsole/login or
https://host.domain.net/webconsole/login. Ideas?
Sean Rector, MCSE
Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association
E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org
Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
{+}
Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season http://www.vaopera.org/ The One
You Love
Celebrate with a 2009-2010 subscription:
La Bohème http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera1.cfm| The
Daughter of the Regiment http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera2.cfm
| Don Giovanni http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera3.cfm|
Porgy and BessSM http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera4.cfm
Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org http://www.vaopera.org/ or call
1-866-OPERA-VA
The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful
integration of music, voice and human drama.
This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the
intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as
recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or
opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily
represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to
ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for
any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments.
{*}
--
Stefan Jafs
RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
You won't get anything until the BAS service is fully initialized. Typically
this can take over a minute in my environment. A useful way to see how far
along it's got is how much memory the bas-as.exe process is using - over 300MB
and you should be good to go.
If you still have no luck, try 1) reinstalling BAS on the same box (will need a
reboot as you have to uninstall it first) or 2) running up a BAS instance on a
second server to see if you can access it that way. If you choose (2) then I'd
stop the BAS service on your main box or you'll enter the realms of modifying
config files with TCP and UDP and blah blah pukes (e.g., it isn't pretty!)
Keep us informed of how you get on, I'm performing the very same upgrade next
week, albeit from BES 5.0.0 RTM.
From: bounce-8812372-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
[mailto:bounce-8812372-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Sean
Rector
Sent: 03 February 2010 22:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
No round robin DNS - I only have 1 BESX server.
I stopped all services, renamed the 20100203 logs folder and rebooted the
server so I could get a clean set of log files. There is no BBAS_AS log file.
BB Admin Svc (and all BB services) running.
This was 5.0 MR4 and was running fine - up until I installed either or both SP1
and/or SP1 MR1.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
So no dns round robin was used during the setup?? If not, I would verify the
services and check the BAS logs for any errors
Do you have monitoring or web desktop manager running, if so do their URLs
work???
Was this a previously 5.0 environment that was upgraded or a straight build to
SP1 and MR1???
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Stefan - that URL didn't work either.
Jeff - in the 1st article, I didn't have the line in the XML file that it was
discussing. I'm not running HA, so the 2nd article didn't apply.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Login should work, there is an issue with UDP and/or TCPPing along these
linestake a look
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB18366http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB18366
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB19436http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB19436
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
My login is: /https://localhost/webconsole/app?page=Loginservice=pageorgId=0
Stefan
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Sean Rector
sean.rec...@vaopera.orgmailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
Hello,
I just updated our BESX 5 server with SP1 and SP1 MR1. The services all start,
but the web interfaces are not displaying - none of them. This is true when I
try https://localhost/webconsole/login or
https://host.domain.net/webconsole/login. Ideas?
Sean Rector, MCSE
Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association
E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.orgmailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org
Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
{+}
Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Seasonhttp://www.vaopera.org/ The One You
Love
Celebrate with a 2009-2010 subscription:
La Bohèmehttp://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera1.cfm | The
Daughter of the Regimenthttp://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera2.cfm
| Don Giovannihttp://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera3.cfm |
Porgy and BessSMhttp://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera4.cfm
Visit us online at www.VaOpera.orghttp://www.vaopera.org/ or call
1-866-OPERA-VA
The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful
integration of music, voice and human drama.
This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the
intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as
recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or
opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily
represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to
ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for
any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments.
{*}
--
Stefan Jafs
RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
BAS-AS is only using 22M...reinstall tomorrow is on tap then...
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 5:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
You won't get anything until the BAS service is fully initialized. Typically
this can take over a minute in my environment. A useful way to see how far
along it's got is how much memory the bas-as.exe process is using - over 300MB
and you should be good to go.
If you still have no luck, try 1) reinstalling BAS on the same box (will need a
reboot as you have to uninstall it first) or 2) running up a BAS instance on a
second server to see if you can access it that way. If you choose (2) then I'd
stop the BAS service on your main box or you'll enter the realms of modifying
config files with TCP and UDP and blah blah pukes (e.g., it isn't pretty!)
Keep us informed of how you get on, I'm performing the very same upgrade next
week, albeit from BES 5.0.0 RTM.
From: bounce-8812372-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
[mailto:bounce-8812372-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Sean
Rector
Sent: 03 February 2010 22:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
No round robin DNS - I only have 1 BESX server.
I stopped all services, renamed the 20100203 logs folder and rebooted the
server so I could get a clean set of log files. There is no BBAS_AS log file.
BB Admin Svc (and all BB services) running.
This was 5.0 MR4 and was running fine - up until I installed either or both SP1
and/or SP1 MR1.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
So no dns round robin was used during the setup?? If not, I would verify the
services and check the BAS logs for any errors
Do you have monitoring or web desktop manager running, if so do their URLs
work???
Was this a previously 5.0 environment that was upgraded or a straight build to
SP1 and MR1???
From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Stefan - that URL didn't work either.
Jeff - in the 1st article, I didn't have the line in the XML file that it was
discussing. I'm not running HA, so the 2nd article didn't apply.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: May, Jeff [mailto:j...@bbandt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
Login should work, there is an issue with UDP and/or TCPPing along these
linestake a look
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB18366
www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB19436
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT - Post BESX 5 SP1 MR1 upgrade problem...
My login is: /https://localhost/webconsole/app?page=Loginservice=pageorgId=0
Stefan
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Sean Rector sean.rec...@vaopera.org wrote:
Hello,
I just updated our BESX 5 server with SP1 and SP1 MR1. The services all start,
but the web interfaces are not displaying - none of them. This is true when I
try https://localhost/webconsole/login or
https://host.domain.net/webconsole/login. Ideas?
Sean Rector, MCSE
Information Technology Manager
Virginia Opera Association
E-Mail: sean.rec...@vaopera.org mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org
Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
{+}
Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season http://www.vaopera.org/ The One
You Love
Celebrate with a 2009-2010 subscription:
La Bohème http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera1.cfm| The
Daughter of the Regiment http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera2.cfm
| Don Giovanni http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera3.cfm|
Porgy and BessSM http://www.vaopera.org/html/currentoperas/opera4.cfm
Visit us online at www.VaOpera.org http://www.vaopera.org/ or call
1-866-OPERA-VA
The vision of Virginia Opera is to enrich lives through the powerful
integration of music, voice and human drama.
This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the
intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as
recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or
opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily
represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to
ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for
any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments.
{*}
--
Stefan
