[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gematriculator says
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Turquoise blue post 87365 The text you sent is 55% evil, 45% good > > authfriend Post 87377 The text you sent is 73% evil, 27% good > > http://www.theonion.com/content/ is 83% evil, 17% good I am horrified that both Judy and The Onion are more evil than I am. I shall endeavor to try harder in the future. :-) But this thing is fun: My book site scores 21% evil, 79% good. By comparison, www.bible.com (the searchable text of the Bible) is 28% evil, 72% good. Quotes by Dr. Evil at http://quotes.prolix.nu/Authors/?Dr._Evil scores 39% evil, 61% good, whereas alt.meditation.transcendental scores 50/50. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: more on poverty, should anyone be interested
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Give it up, Shemp! Your views are absurd and ridiculous. They rely on > prejudice and obnoxious stereotypes, and they ignore well- established facts. > They cannot be taken seriously by anyone. I think I'll tell you what I just told Brigante: if you truly believe that there are people who are hungry in America and in need of your phony compassion, why not sacrifice the 5 hours a day YOU spend on the internet and go down to your local hospital or soup kitchen and volunteer your time? Now, THAT would be putting your money where your mouth is, wouldn't it? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > It's hard to debate with someone who continually resorts to > > demeaning > > > stereotypes and refuses to accept facts. > > > > > > > > > > Tell you what, Mother Theresa, why don't you go down to a soup > > kitchen in your neighbourhood and take a look at the people in line. > > > > See how many thin people there are. > > > > You know, to even suggest that there are people hungry in this > > country is an insult to the REAL poor of the world who are truly > > deserving of your attention and faux-pity and faux-concern. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My objections to your posts on poverty are first that you > > > > stereotype the poor > > > > > (does anyone ask you if you are spending your money > > on "frivolous" > > > > things?) > > > > > and second that your definition of poverty is out of the > > > > mainstream, useless > > > > > and wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Just to give one example, consider this, which I took from the > > > > Catholic > > > > > Campaign for Human Development at > > > > > http://www.nccbuscc.org/cchd/povertyusa/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > "Since 1999, the number of poor Americans suffering from `food > > > > insecurity' > > > > > and hunger has increased by 3.9 million - 2.8 million adults > > and > > > > more than > > > > > one million children. In 2002, 34.9 million people lived in > > > > households > > > > > experiencing food insecurity - that is, not enough food for > > basic > > > > nourishment - > > > > > compared to 33.6 million in 2001 and 31 million in 1999. (U.S. > > > > Department of > > > > > Agriculture, Household Food Security in the United States, > > 2002, > > > > October > > > > > 2003.) > > > > > > > > > > So much for your notion that no one in this country suffers > > from a > > > > lack of the > > > > > necessitites of life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't believe it for a moment. > > > > > > > > If you and I went down to the homes of the people in the study, > > what > > > > do you think we'd find? > > > > > > > > I think we'd find people wasting their money on fast food or > > > > cigarettes or beer. > > > > > > > > The reality is that you can earn minimum wage in this country > > and > > > > have enough for basic nutritional intake. > > > > > > > > Don't believe everything you read...and start to think for > > yourself, > > > > feste37. > > > > > > > > Oh, and two more words for you: food stamps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you have a rosy view of things because Arizona doesn't > > > > figure in the > > > > > top ten "poverty" states, which are > > > > > 1. Mississippi17.3% below the poverty line > > > > > 2. New Mexico 17.3% > > > > > 3. Louisiana 16.8% > > > > > 4. District of Columbia 16.7% > > > > > 4. Texas 16.7% > > > > > 6. Arkansas 16.4% > > > > > 7. Alabama16.0% > > > > > 7. Kentucky 16.0% > > > > > 9. West Virginia 15.8% > > > > > 10. North Carolina15.1% > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did define it. You must have missed the post, since > > you > > > > didn't > > > > > > > > respond to it. I don't know offhand what the number of > > the > > > > post > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > and don't have time to go to it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here 'tis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your point is that poverty in America is very different > > > > from > > > > > > > poverty in, say, Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's > > > > obvious. > > > > > > > Poverty is a relative concept. if you don't have the > > things > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > majority of people in your society have, and therefore > > cannot > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: more on poverty, should anyone be interested
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > It's hard to debate with someone who continually resorts to > > demeaning > > > stereotypes and refuses to accept facts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tell you what, Mother Theresa, why don't you go down to a soup > > kitchen in your neighbourhood and take a look at the people in > line. > > > > See how many thin people there are. > > > > You know, to even suggest that there are people hungry in this > > country is an insult to the REAL poor of the world who are truly > > deserving of your attention and faux-pity and faux-concern. > > > > > ** > > Tell you what, Mr. Compassion: > http://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/2823.htm > > Have fun on that hunting trip with that compassionate conservate, > Dick (Duck!) Cheney...and by the way, learn how to snip your posts... > Why should I snip my posts? If you think they're too long, you snip them. As for compassion, if you truly want to express compassion, Mr. Brigante, why don't you spend about 5 hours less a day gossiping on the internet as you obviously do and go down to your local hospital or food bank or old people's home and volunteer your time? That would be about 35 hours of compassion that you could spare, isn't it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/12/06 7:22 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> He was served during the Taste of Utopia course, or at least an > > attempt to > >> do so was made. > >> > > > > > > * > > > > Right, an attempt was made, but it was not successful -- didn't you > > post here earlier to the effect that this was the case? > > That's right. Lenny Goldman managed to prevent the sheriff form serving the > subpoena, or so I heard. > * And probably had it quashed later, it was just a meaningless legal play from that bozo Robin Carlsen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tmforlife108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Message: 10 >Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:35:48 - >From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > Forwarded Message From: Mike Scozzari Date: Sat, 11 Feb > 2006 17:26:47 -0800 To: Rick Archer Subject: TMO > Legal: Cease and desist Letter? > > Hi Rick > > If possible, please post on Fairfield life. This is the most > recentl letter i received from the TMO. According to one > attorney, it's mostly saber rattling. > > Mike > > I hope Mike has some good representation. > > And a lot of money. > > > > > JohnY > > As this situation draws in on Mike I think it is obvious that he is making progress with his > attornies. I know he's been in S Florida for years and has financial supporters like any > teacher in the field. You don't need to be wealthy to tackle the threats of the TMO. Money > is not the issue here. Teachers like Mike feel like they have more to loose by complying > with the requests we read in the TMO attorneys template letter. I think a loss for Mike > would mean a loss for the teaching. The TMO would need to hire or recruit an attorney in > Florida to do it's bidding. Attorneys from the other side would sue for their expenses too. > > I just received word here in California that the recert program is out of money (what, you > thought the millionaire courses would bail them out!) and that teachers were told by > administrators to keep all the money they collect for course fees. They must charge > $2500 so it's still crazy. To my knowledge no recert teachers are getting any salaries. I > think any intelligent judge would begin to see the goofy pattern and realize the TMO is not > capable of taking care of it's employees, defending it's trademark or proving it's non- > profits status, especially in light of the new Patriot Act re transfer of funds abroad. > > Daniel > I spoke to Mike about a year ago. He is very dedicated to the teaching. I hope that he gets good representation if he needs it. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth's "Chandler's Wobble" has stopped. Does this matter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Some of you exotic folk should be able to > > > > > comment on this peculiar story about the > > > > > cessation (over the past three weeks only) > > > > > of the Earth's wobble: > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/chomx > > > > > > > > Sat Yuga...everything's becoming more balanced. > > > > > > > > Just thought I'd say it before Brigante did. :-) > > > > > > > +++ A bit of possibly relevant trivia, > > > Tho the earth is supposed to have an iron core, it is also > > > supposed to be quite hot. > > > Iron, when red hot or above, is not magnetic and so would not > > > contribute to the earth being a magnet. > > > > * > > > > http://www.phy6.org/earthmag/dynamos2.htm > > > > "So the molten metal is believed to be circulating. By moving > > through the existing magnetic field, it creates a system of electric > > currents, spread out through the core, somewhat like Faraday's disk > > dynamo, discussed earlier. Currents create a magnetic field--a > > distribution of magnetic forces--and the essence of the self- > > sustaining dynamo problem is to find solutions such that the > > resulting magnetic field is also the input field required for > > generating the current in the first place. > > > snip > +++ Did I miss where the existing magnetic field comes from or is the > latest in perpetual motion? N. > ** http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/earth/magnetic.html "Origin of the Magnetic Field Magnetic fields are produced by the motion of electrical charges. For example, the magnetic field of a bar magnet results from the motion of negatively charged electrons in the magnet. The origin of the Earth's magnetic field is not completely understood, but is thought to be associated with electrical currents produced by the coupling of convective effects and rotation in the spinning liquid metallic outer core of iron and nickel. This mechanism is termed the dynamo effect. Rocks that are formed from the molten state contain indicators of the magnetic field at the time of their solidification. The study of such "magnetic fossils" indicates that the Earth's magnetic field reverses itself every million years or so (the north and south magnetic poles switch). This is but one detail of the magnetic field that is not well understood." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > no...not THOSE GUYS...they are on the proverbial SLOW BOAT...we on > > > the other hand can easily achieve the goal. The trick being to > just > > > not settle for seekerdom anymore. That's it- done...poof...into > the > > > infinite forever more...no more CC-GC-UC-->straight into > > > Brahman!!! Yippeee! > > > > > > 92% evil, 8% good > > > "seeking enlightenment is a waste of time" > > 1% evil, 99% good Most seeking is a waste of time. It increases bondage. Drop seeking. I think we are on to something here. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > no...not THOSE GUYS...they are on the proverbial SLOW BOAT...we on > > the other hand can easily achieve the goal. The trick being to just > > not settle for seekerdom anymore. That's it- done...poof...into the > > infinite forever more...no more CC-GC-UC-->straight into > > Brahman!!! Yippeee! > > > 92% evil, 8% good > "seeking enlightenment is a waste of time" 1% evil, 99% good Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apple's next ?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Look what Apple's working on now. Wow. > > http://loop.worldofapple.com/archives/2006/02/08/multi-touch- > interaction-video/ http://www.apple.com/ is 50% evil, 50% good http://www.microsoft.com/ is 10% evil, 90% good Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] FFL Masthead
46% evil, 54% good Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no...not THOSE GUYS...they are on the proverbial SLOW BOAT...we on > the other hand can easily achieve the goal. The trick being to just > not settle for seekerdom anymore. That's it- done...poof...into the > infinite forever more...no more CC-GC-UC-->straight into > Brahman!!! Yippeee! 92% evil, 8% good Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gematriculator says
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ is > > 38% evil, 62% good > > That's interesting, because Rory's website came out > exactly the same: > > http://www.artesmagicae.com is > 38% evil, 62% good > > Whereas Dubya's bio page has a less pleasant rating: > > http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html is > 59% evil, 41% good http://alex.natel.net/kitties/ is 45% evil, 55% good http://alex.natel.net/hork/ is 15% evil, 85% good Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gematriculator says
This post is 18% evil, 82% good --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ is > > 38% evil, 62% good > > That's interesting, because Rory's website came out > exactly the same: > > http://www.artesmagicae.com is > 38% evil, 62% good > > Whereas Dubya's bio page has a less pleasant rating: > > http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html is > 59% evil, 41% good > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Apple's next ?
Look what Apple's working on now. Wow. http://loop.worldofapple.com/archives/2006/02/08/multi-touch- interaction-video/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gematriculator says
http://www.foxnews.com/ is 15% evil, 85% good http://nytimes.com is 16% evil, 84% good http://www.pcworld.com/news/ is 25% evil, 75% good http://mum.edu/ is 48% evil, 52% good Turquoise blue post 87365 The text you sent is 55% evil, 45% good authfriend Post 87377 The text you sent is 73% evil, 27% good http://www.theonion.com/content/ is 83% evil, 17% good Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Gematriculator says
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ is > 38% evil, 62% good That's interesting, because Rory's website came out exactly the same: http://www.artesmagicae.com is 38% evil, 62% good Whereas Dubya's bio page has a less pleasant rating: http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html is 59% evil, 41% good --- a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ is > 38% evil, 62% good > > http://homokaasu.org/gematriculator/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Gematriculator says
on 2/12/06 8:41 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ is 38% evil, 62% good > > http://homokaasu.org/gematriculator/ > My site (http://searchsummit.com) is 35% evil, 65% good Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
on 2/12/06 7:22 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> He was served during the Taste of Utopia course, or at least an > attempt to >> do so was made. >> > > > * > > Right, an attempt was made, but it was not successful -- didn't you > post here earlier to the effect that this was the case? That's right. Lenny Goldman managed to prevent the sheriff form serving the subpoena, or so I heard. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/12/06 4:23 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > > > *** > > > > All this would have some meaning if MMY had been served with a > > subpoena, but he was not served while visiting the USA. And foreign > > nationals do not have to respond to subpoenas from U.S. courts, so > > when he was living in Switzerland or Holland, etc., he did not have > > to respond even if served by a U.S. subpoena: > > > > See United States v. Samaniego: > > > > "foreign nationals located outside the United States ... are beyond > > the subpoena power of the district court ... > > He was served during the Taste of Utopia course, or at least an attempt to > do so was made. > Charlie also talked about testifying in court and the judge thought he was M. Yogi and refered to him as 'Mr. Yogi'. This was after Maharishi told Charlie to go in his place. I don't know if there was a subpoena though. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Gematriculator says
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[FairfieldLife] Re: more on poverty, should anyone be interested
Give it up, Shemp! Your views are absurd and ridiculous. They rely on prejudice and obnoxious stereotypes, and they ignore well-established facts. They cannot be taken seriously by anyone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > It's hard to debate with someone who continually resorts to > demeaning > > stereotypes and refuses to accept facts. > > > > > Tell you what, Mother Theresa, why don't you go down to a soup > kitchen in your neighbourhood and take a look at the people in line. > > See how many thin people there are. > > You know, to even suggest that there are people hungry in this > country is an insult to the REAL poor of the world who are truly > deserving of your attention and faux-pity and faux-concern. > > > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > > > My objections to your posts on poverty are first that you > > > stereotype the poor > > > > (does anyone ask you if you are spending your money > on "frivolous" > > > things?) > > > > and second that your definition of poverty is out of the > > > mainstream, useless > > > > and wrong. > > > > > > > > Just to give one example, consider this, which I took from the > > > Catholic > > > > Campaign for Human Development at > > > > http://www.nccbuscc.org/cchd/povertyusa/index.htm > > > > > > > > "Since 1999, the number of poor Americans suffering from `food > > > insecurity' > > > > and hunger has increased by 3.9 million - 2.8 million adults > and > > > more than > > > > one million children. In 2002, 34.9 million people lived in > > > households > > > > experiencing food insecurity - that is, not enough food for > basic > > > nourishment - > > > > compared to 33.6 million in 2001 and 31 million in 1999. (U.S. > > > Department of > > > > Agriculture, Household Food Security in the United States, > 2002, > > > October > > > > 2003.) > > > > > > > > So much for your notion that no one in this country suffers > from a > > > lack of the > > > > necessitites of life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't believe it for a moment. > > > > > > If you and I went down to the homes of the people in the study, > what > > > do you think we'd find? > > > > > > I think we'd find people wasting their money on fast food or > > > cigarettes or beer. > > > > > > The reality is that you can earn minimum wage in this country > and > > > have enough for basic nutritional intake. > > > > > > Don't believe everything you read...and start to think for > yourself, > > > feste37. > > > > > > Oh, and two more words for you: food stamps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you have a rosy view of things because Arizona doesn't > > > figure in the > > > > top ten "poverty" states, which are > > > > 1. Mississippi 17.3% below the poverty line > > > > 2. New Mexico 17.3% > > > > 3. Louisiana16.8% > > > > 4. District of Columbia 16.7% > > > > 4. Texas16.7% > > > > 6. Arkansas16.4% > > > > 7. Alabama 16.0% > > > > 7. Kentucky 16.0% > > > > 9. West Virginia15.8% > > > > 10. North Carolina 15.1% > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did define it. You must have missed the post, since > you > > > didn't > > > > > > > respond to it. I don't know offhand what the number of > the > > > post > > > > > was > > > > > > > and don't have time to go to it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here 'tis: > > > > > > > > > > > > If your point is that poverty in America is very different > > > from > > > > > > poverty in, say, Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's > > > obvious. > > > > > > Poverty is a relative concept. if you don't have the > things > > > that > > > > > the > > > > > > majority of people in your society have, and therefore > cannot > > > > > > participate fully in that society, you are poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, thanks to Judy for finding feste37's definition. > > > > > > > > > > Okay. The way you define poverty is completely different > from > > > the > > > > > way I define it. I do NOT define it as a relative concept > which > > > is, > > > > > of course, the way it is defined by the poverty line > > > definition. > > > > > Plus, my definition has NOTHING to do with whether or not > you > > > have > > > > > the same things as the majority of the people in society > have. > > > > > > > > > > Nor does my definition include whether or not one > > > can "participate > > > > > fully in that society" because th
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth's "Chandler's Wobble" has stopped. Does this matter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Some of you exotic folk should be able to > > > > comment on this peculiar story about the > > > > cessation (over the past three weeks only) > > > > of the Earth's wobble: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/chomx > > > > > > Sat Yuga...everything's becoming more balanced. > > > > > > Just thought I'd say it before Brigante did. :-) > > > > > +++ A bit of possibly relevant trivia, > > Tho the earth is supposed to have an iron core, it is also > > supposed to be quite hot. > > Iron, when red hot or above, is not magnetic and so would not > > contribute to the earth being a magnet. > > * > > http://www.phy6.org/earthmag/dynamos2.htm > > "So the molten metal is believed to be circulating. By moving > through the existing magnetic field, it creates a system of electric > currents, spread out through the core, somewhat like Faraday's disk > dynamo, discussed earlier. Currents create a magnetic field--a > distribution of magnetic forces--and the essence of the self- > sustaining dynamo problem is to find solutions such that the > resulting magnetic field is also the input field required for > generating the current in the first place. > snip +++ Did I miss where the existing magnetic field comes from or is the latest in perpetual motion? N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: more on poverty, should anyone be interested
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > It's hard to debate with someone who continually resorts to > demeaning > > stereotypes and refuses to accept facts. > > > > > Tell you what, Mother Theresa, why don't you go down to a soup > kitchen in your neighbourhood and take a look at the people in line. > > See how many thin people there are. > > You know, to even suggest that there are people hungry in this > country is an insult to the REAL poor of the world who are truly > deserving of your attention and faux-pity and faux-concern. > ** Tell you what, Mr. Compassion: http://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/2823.htm Have fun on that hunting trip with that compassionate conservate, Dick (Duck!) Cheney...and by the way, learn how to snip your posts... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth's "Chandler's Wobble" has stopped. Does this matter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > wrote: > > > > > > Some of you exotic folk should be able to > > > comment on this peculiar story about the > > > cessation (over the past three weeks only) > > > of the Earth's wobble: > > > http://tinyurl.com/chomx > > > > Sat Yuga...everything's becoming more balanced. > > > > Just thought I'd say it before Brigante did. :-) > > > +++ A bit of possibly relevant trivia, > Tho the earth is supposed to have an iron core, it is also > supposed to be quite hot. > Iron, when red hot or above, is not magnetic and so would not > contribute to the earth being a magnet. * http://www.phy6.org/earthmag/dynamos2.htm "So the molten metal is believed to be circulating. By moving through the existing magnetic field, it creates a system of electric currents, spread out through the core, somewhat like Faraday's disk dynamo, discussed earlier. Currents create a magnetic field--a distribution of magnetic forces--and the essence of the self- sustaining dynamo problem is to find solutions such that the resulting magnetic field is also the input field required for generating the current in the first place. > I recently asked a physics teacher at MUM what the difference was > between gravity and magnetism. > He said "no one knows-but they are working on it" > Old Edgar C. was right about a lot of things so maybe they should > start building boat docks in Idaho like the song said. N. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/12/06 4:23 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > > > *** > > > > All this would have some meaning if MMY had been served with a > > subpoena, but he was not served while visiting the USA. And foreign > > nationals do not have to respond to subpoenas from U.S. courts, so > > when he was living in Switzerland or Holland, etc., he did not have > > to respond even if served by a U.S. subpoena: > > > > See United States v. Samaniego: > > > > "foreign nationals located outside the United States ... are beyond > > the subpoena power of the district court ... > > He was served during the Taste of Utopia course, or at least an attempt to > do so was made. > * Right, an attempt was made, but it was not successful -- didn't you post here earlier to the effect that this was the case? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama: Meditation as Therapy
On Feb 12, 2006, at 7:45 PM, wayback71 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "coshlnx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- --- http://www.snowlionpub.com/pages/N73_1.php Another article: "Science at the Crossroads" by the Dalai Lama http://www.dalailama.com/page.8.htm --- End forwarded message --- This article is such a pleasure to read. In fact, it seems as if the Dalai Lama is picking up where MMY left off back in the 70's. This is the kind of reasoned, no-hype, generous discussion that I had thought the TMO would be leading to. MMY and all the hype must be doing something, but I would think that this style of conversation and research influences so many more people. Such different approaches to essentially the same stuff. Being intimately familiar with both systems there is a vast difference between these two systems in terms of breadth and depth. TM would represent a basic meditation practice whereas the inner tantras represent a profound and comprehensive technology of higher consciousness. While there are superficial similarities, in terms of practice and techniques, one goes far beyond the other. This particular lecture is but one of many given over the last decade--actually many have already been published--but definitely worth reading if the crossroad of science and spirituality interest you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Unity of subject and object in Tendrel.
Indeed, once one realizes the Eight Freedoms (ashtauvimoksa) the first two realizations are just this, the freedom of the formed observation of form and the freedom of the formless observation of form.On Feb 12, 2006, at 7:24 PM, qntmpkt wrote:Basically Tendrel contains the understanding of "the inter- determinate nature of all that exists". In accordance with general Buddhist ideas the rules governing the cause and effect nature of existence in turn imply compounded nature of everything that exists together with the moment-to-moment-changing-nature. Asanga (c. 395- 470), one of the two most important Buddhist philosophers, set forth the rules of the interrelationship between subject-object, implying that the object does not exist in and by itself independently of the experiencing subject, because the root of the object is no different from the root of the subject. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Dragonflies in action
--- --- > > http://tinyurl.com/drmur News flash! The EPA warns of dangerous levels of romance in the air: http://tinyurl.com/cz5mu > --- End forwarded message --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama: Meditation as Therapy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "coshlnx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- > > --- > > http://www.snowlionpub.com/pages/N73_1.php > > Another article: "Science at the Crossroads" by the Dalai Lama > http://www.dalailama.com/page.8.htm > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > This article is such a pleasure to read. In fact, it seems as if the Dalai Lama is picking up where MMY left off back in the 70's. This is the kind of reasoned, no-hype, generous discussion that I had thought the TMO would be leading to. MMY and all the hype must be doing something, but I would think that this style of conversation and research influences so many more people. Such different approaches to essentially the same stuff. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: more on poverty, should anyone be interested
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's hard to debate with someone who continually resorts to demeaning > stereotypes and refuses to accept facts. Tell you what, Mother Theresa, why don't you go down to a soup kitchen in your neighbourhood and take a look at the people in line. See how many thin people there are. You know, to even suggest that there are people hungry in this country is an insult to the REAL poor of the world who are truly deserving of your attention and faux-pity and faux-concern. > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > My objections to your posts on poverty are first that you > > stereotype the poor > > > (does anyone ask you if you are spending your money on "frivolous" > > things?) > > > and second that your definition of poverty is out of the > > mainstream, useless > > > and wrong. > > > > > > Just to give one example, consider this, which I took from the > > Catholic > > > Campaign for Human Development at > > > http://www.nccbuscc.org/cchd/povertyusa/index.htm > > > > > > "Since 1999, the number of poor Americans suffering from `food > > insecurity' > > > and hunger has increased by 3.9 million - 2.8 million adults and > > more than > > > one million children. In 2002, 34.9 million people lived in > > households > > > experiencing food insecurity - that is, not enough food for basic > > nourishment - > > > compared to 33.6 million in 2001 and 31 million in 1999. (U.S. > > Department of > > > Agriculture, Household Food Security in the United States, 2002, > > October > > > 2003.) > > > > > > So much for your notion that no one in this country suffers from a > > lack of the > > > necessitites of life. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't believe it for a moment. > > > > If you and I went down to the homes of the people in the study, what > > do you think we'd find? > > > > I think we'd find people wasting their money on fast food or > > cigarettes or beer. > > > > The reality is that you can earn minimum wage in this country and > > have enough for basic nutritional intake. > > > > Don't believe everything you read...and start to think for yourself, > > feste37. > > > > Oh, and two more words for you: food stamps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you have a rosy view of things because Arizona doesn't > > figure in the > > > top ten "poverty" states, which are > > > 1. Mississippi17.3% below the poverty line > > > 2. New Mexico 17.3% > > > 3. Louisiana 16.8% > > > 4. District of Columbia 16.7% > > > 4. Texas 16.7% > > > 6. Arkansas 16.4% > > > 7. Alabama16.0% > > > 7. Kentucky 16.0% > > > 9. West Virginia 15.8% > > > 10. North Carolina15.1% > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I did define it. You must have missed the post, since you > > didn't > > > > > > respond to it. I don't know offhand what the number of the > > post > > > > was > > > > > > and don't have time to go to it now. > > > > > > > > > > Here 'tis: > > > > > > > > > > If your point is that poverty in America is very different > > from > > > > > poverty in, say, Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's > > obvious. > > > > > Poverty is a relative concept. if you don't have the things > > that > > > > the > > > > > majority of people in your society have, and therefore cannot > > > > > participate fully in that society, you are poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, thanks to Judy for finding feste37's definition. > > > > > > > > Okay. The way you define poverty is completely different from > > the > > > > way I define it. I do NOT define it as a relative concept which > > is, > > > > of course, the way it is defined by the poverty line > > definition. > > > > Plus, my definition has NOTHING to do with whether or not you > > have > > > > the same things as the majority of the people in society have. > > > > > > > > Nor does my definition include whether or not one > > can "participate > > > > fully in that society" because they don't have the things that > > the > > > > majority have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's an > > > > > approximation of a standard definition, I think, if I remember > > my > > > > > social science classes from about 15 million years ago. > > > > > > > > > > You ask about deprivations. Lack of health insurance, for one, > > > > which > > > > > means that people see doctors less often than they should do > > and > > > > need > > > > > to do, and so lack preventive care. Inability to pay for > > needed
[FairfieldLife] TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:35:48 - From: "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > Forwarded Message From: Mike Scozzari Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:26:47 -0800 To: Rick Archer Subject: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter? Hi Rick If possible, please post on Fairfield life. This is the most recentl letter i received from the TMO. According to one attorney, it's mostly saber rattling. Mike I hope Mike has some good representation. And a lot of money. JohnY As this situation draws in on Mike I think it is obvious that he is making progress with his attornies. I know he's been in S Florida for years and has financial supporters like any teacher in the field. You don't need to be wealthy to tackle the threats of the TMO. Money is not the issue here. Teachers like Mike feel like they have more to loose by complying with the requests we read in the TMO attorneys template letter. I think a loss for Mike would mean a loss for the teaching. The TMO would need to hire or recruit an attorney in Florida to do it's bidding. Attorneys from the other side would sue for their expenses too. I just received word here in California that the recert program is out of money (what, you thought the millionaire courses would bail them out!) and that teachers were told by administrators to keep all the money they collect for course fees. They must charge $2500 so it's still crazy. To my knowledge no recert teachers are getting any salaries. I think any intelligent judge would begin to see the goofy pattern and realize the TMO is not capable of taking care of it's employees, defending it's trademark or proving it's non- profits status, especially in light of the new Patriot Act re transfer of funds abroad. Daniel Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth's "Chandler's Wobble" has stopped. Does this matter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > > > Some of you exotic folk should be able to > > comment on this peculiar story about the > > cessation (over the past three weeks only) > > of the Earth's wobble: > > http://tinyurl.com/chomx > > Sat Yuga...everything's becoming more balanced. > > Just thought I'd say it before Brigante did. :-) > +++ A bit of possibly relevant trivia, Tho the earth is supposed to have an iron core, it is also supposed to be quite hot. Iron, when red hot or above, is not magnetic and so would not contribute to the earth being a magnet. I recently asked a physics teacher at MUM what the difference was between gravity and magnetism. He said "no one knows-but they are working on it" Old Edgar C. was right about a lot of things so maybe they should start building boat docks in Idaho like the song said. N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Unity of subject and object in Tendrel.
--- --- > > http://www.tarab-institute.org/gb/congressreport4.htm Basically Tendrel contains the understanding of "the inter- determinate nature of all that exists". In accordance with general Buddhist ideas the rules governing the cause and effect nature of existence in turn imply compounded nature of everything that exists together with the moment-to-moment-changing-nature. Asanga (c. 395- 470), one of the two most important Buddhist philosophers, set forth the rules of the interrelationship between subject-object, implying that the object does not exist in and by itself independently of the experiencing subject, because the root of the object is no different from the root of the subject. Nagarjuna (c. 150-250), the other of the two most important Indian Buddhist Philosophers, expressed the view concerning Tendrel that both subject and object realities only exist conventionally and neither of them exist in and by themselves. Everything existing -- subject as well as object -- exists in an interrelated way. In this connection Nargajuna found that conventional reality expresses itself in the unity of the four pairs of opposites: becoming and cessation, the finite and the infinite, localization and de-localization, as well as part and whole. > --- End forwarded message --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Wilber and the Great Chain of Being:
--- --- > > How many versions of Wilber are there? > http://www.kheper.net/topics/Wilber/Ken_Wilber.htm THE GREAT CHAIN OF BEING: http://www.kheper.net/topics/greatchainofbeing/index.html --- End forwarded message --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Actor needed to play the Buddha
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[FairfieldLife] : Dzogchen teachings: Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush receives Sri Sri in White House
Big Boss, Bush.jr clearly knows the importance of the Vedic philosophy. Perhaps, the politicking is just to corner the votes of the fundies. He opposes Abortion. By the same logic, President Bush.jr should also oppose the 'Terminator Gene' by Monsanto. It is abortion of plants. Monsanto with it's 'terminator gene' is tampering with the very fabric of Nature, besides taking the Farmers for a big ride. Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:13:02 -0600 Old news: http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/may/17aziz.htm Bush receives Sri Sri in White HouseAziz Haniffa in Washington, DC | May 17, 2004 16:23 IST Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, founder of the Art of Living Foundation and the International Association of Human Values, was on May 7 received by US President George W Bush in the Oval Office of the White House and implored to "please keep us in your prayers." Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is the first Indian spiritual leader to be received in the Oval Office by a president of the United States. The seer was visiting the White House for discussions with senior officials of the Bush Administration's Faith-Based Initiative, when officials asked him if he would like to meet with Bush. Almost immediately they arranged for an Oval Office meeting between the two. Bush embraced Sri Sri Ravi Shankar soon as he entered the Oval Office, and said, 'I am very glad you are here and please keep us in your prayers." He then asked the guru if he could take a picture with him, and called for the White House photographer to do the needful. Sri Sri Ravi Shankar later participated in a prayer meeting presided over by Bush, at the White House East, which was followed by a reception for several participants belonging to various faiths. Sri Sri Ravi Shankar who as part of his world tour has just returned from Mexico and is scheduled to go to Brazil to address that country's Parliament, told rediff.com this was his first visit to the US Congress and the White House. "My message to them has been the uplifting of human values," he said. He said he had briefed lawmakers and the White House about "our stress relief program with prisoners and the people in Iraq. The prison program is one of the main programs were are doing. "I have already sent some doctors from India to Iraq, with ayurvedic medicines, and they are helping the people to overcome the trauma because the people there cannot sleep, are in constant anxiety and the conditions are terrible and women and children are suffering. So we are doing a big campaign for them." "I am also working with Kashmiri migrants," Ravi Shankar told rediff.com. "We have about a three-and-a-half lakh Kashmir Pandits still in refugee camps for 14 years, and nobody has cared for them. Now, I am taking up their cause and trying to rehabilitate them, trying to put them back in Kashmir." Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was also feted on Capitol Hill at a reception hosted by influential Republican Representative David Dreier of California, who chairs the powerful House Rules Committee. Among lawmakers present were the co-chairs of the Congressional Caucus on India and Indian American Representatives Joseph Crowley (New York Democrat) and Joe Wilson (South Carolina Republican); founder and former co-chair of the India Caucus Frank Pallone (New Jersey Democrat); unsuccessful Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich of Ohio; Earl Blumenauer (Oregon Democrat); James Walsh (New York Republican); and Diane Watson (California Democrat), among others. Dreier, who recently made his first visit to India along with Staff Director of the Rules Committee Billy Pitts, said, "He is obviously a great spiritual leader and we are all so pleased that we can welcome him. We've had some wonderful meetings, it's a great honor and privilege for me to be here and to welcome him to the US Capitol." "This is something we need to pursue so that there is in this world that is shrinking, an understanding of differences that exist," he said. Several influential Jewish Americans, including the hierarchy of the American Jewish Committee, were presented at the reception as were several Indian-American community leaders and senior Indian embassy officials. Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama: Meditation as Therapy
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
on 2/12/06 4:23 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > > *** > > All this would have some meaning if MMY had been served with a > subpoena, but he was not served while visiting the USA. And foreign > nationals do not have to respond to subpoenas from U.S. courts, so > when he was living in Switzerland or Holland, etc., he did not have > to respond even if served by a U.S. subpoena: > > See United States v. Samaniego: > > "foreign nationals located outside the United States ... are beyond > the subpoena power of the district court ... He was served during the Taste of Utopia course, or at least an attempt to do so was made. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Pope Benedict squashes dubious Mary apparitions.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shremp, you got me intrigued with your quote, so I checked out the > recording. It was on the 12th March 1974 in Brussels, Belgium, about > one and a half hours into the 'Intro lecture' during which Jerry > Jarvis also made a contribution. MMY said:- > > 'Give the knowledge pertaining to the practice. Satisfy all the > doubts and questions regarding understanding and then leave the man > to be with his tradition, with his culture, with his way of life, > with everything that he wants to do. Just fifteen minutes morning and > evening. He can practise HUNDREDS of meditations, we don't mind. As > long as he does this fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, morning and > evening he'll enjoy, he will begin to enjoy everything that he will > do'. > >From "Generation after Generation" in MMY's Science of Being and Art of Living : "Whatever the natural inclinations of the people, they should not be disturbed, because that is the path of their evolution. It should allow them to be what they are, allow them to do what they like, allow them not to do what they do not like." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: more on poverty, should anyone be interested
It's hard to debate with someone who continually resorts to demeaning stereotypes and refuses to accept facts. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > My objections to your posts on poverty are first that you > stereotype the poor > > (does anyone ask you if you are spending your money on "frivolous" > things?) > > and second that your definition of poverty is out of the > mainstream, useless > > and wrong. > > > > Just to give one example, consider this, which I took from the > Catholic > > Campaign for Human Development at > > http://www.nccbuscc.org/cchd/povertyusa/index.htm > > > > "Since 1999, the number of poor Americans suffering from `food > insecurity' > > and hunger has increased by 3.9 million - 2.8 million adults and > more than > > one million children. In 2002, 34.9 million people lived in > households > > experiencing food insecurity - that is, not enough food for basic > nourishment - > > compared to 33.6 million in 2001 and 31 million in 1999. (U.S. > Department of > > Agriculture, Household Food Security in the United States, 2002, > October > > 2003.) > > > > So much for your notion that no one in this country suffers from a > lack of the > > necessitites of life. > > > > > Sorry, I don't believe it for a moment. > > If you and I went down to the homes of the people in the study, what > do you think we'd find? > > I think we'd find people wasting their money on fast food or > cigarettes or beer. > > The reality is that you can earn minimum wage in this country and > have enough for basic nutritional intake. > > Don't believe everything you read...and start to think for yourself, > feste37. > > Oh, and two more words for you: food stamps. > > > > > > > > Perhaps you have a rosy view of things because Arizona doesn't > figure in the > > top ten "poverty" states, which are > > 1. Mississippi 17.3% below the poverty line > > 2. New Mexico 17.3% > > 3. Louisiana16.8% > > 4. District of Columbia 16.7% > > 4. Texas16.7% > > 6. Arkansas16.4% > > 7. Alabama 16.0% > > 7. Kentucky 16.0% > > 9. West Virginia15.8% > > 10. North Carolina 15.1% > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I did define it. You must have missed the post, since you > didn't > > > > > respond to it. I don't know offhand what the number of the > post > > > was > > > > > and don't have time to go to it now. > > > > > > > > Here 'tis: > > > > > > > > If your point is that poverty in America is very different > from > > > > poverty in, say, Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's > obvious. > > > > Poverty is a relative concept. if you don't have the things > that > > > the > > > > majority of people in your society have, and therefore cannot > > > > participate fully in that society, you are poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, thanks to Judy for finding feste37's definition. > > > > > > Okay. The way you define poverty is completely different from > the > > > way I define it. I do NOT define it as a relative concept which > is, > > > of course, the way it is defined by the poverty line > definition. > > > Plus, my definition has NOTHING to do with whether or not you > have > > > the same things as the majority of the people in society have. > > > > > > Nor does my definition include whether or not one > can "participate > > > fully in that society" because they don't have the things that > the > > > majority have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's an > > > > approximation of a standard definition, I think, if I remember > my > > > > social science classes from about 15 million years ago. > > > > > > > > You ask about deprivations. Lack of health insurance, for one, > > > which > > > > means that people see doctors less often than they should do > and > > > need > > > > to do, and so lack preventive care. Inability to pay for > needed > > > > medications is another deprivation. Choosing between food and > > > > medication is another. I'm sure there are many more. It's > > > > called "going without," and the poor quietly learn to do this, > but > > > > that doesn't mean they are not poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and I contend that there is no one that the above applies to > in > > > America...and that is why there are no poor people. There are > > > social programs -- government or otherwise -- that will take > care of > > > those essential needs. > > > > > > Now I'm going to go back and answer the questions you asked me > that > > > I haven't yet responded to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comment below: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > **SNIP** > > > How compulsory is a subpoena? Do you get arrested if you ignore it, > or does > > it just weaken your case? Last time MMY was in the U.S., he was > subpoenaed, > > and he didn't respond. > > > > **END** > > A subpoena is a court order and (technically) failure to respond to > one is considered contempt of the court and the person is subject to > sanctions, which generally means throwing them in jail for a few days. > > However, courts rarely sanction someone the first go around, or even > the second or more depending on the subpoened person's importance to > the case of the party who is doing the subpoena-ing and the crankiness > of the court in general. > > It wouldn't necessarily have any bearing on the case except get the > judge pissed at you (and your side) and therefore create an > unfavorable dynamic, but (again, depending on the complexity of the > case and the importance of the non-responding subpoened witness) the > court might impose evidentiary sanctions on the other side, not > allowing them to present certain other opposing witnesses or > affirmative defenses, etc. > *** All this would have some meaning if MMY had been served with a subpoena, but he was not served while visiting the USA. And foreign nationals do not have to respond to subpoenas from U.S. courts, so when he was living in Switzerland or Holland, etc., he did not have to respond even if served by a U.S. subpoena: See United States v. Samaniego: "foreign nationals located outside the United States ... are beyond the subpoena power of the district court ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Vedic Spa opens in Mpls
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/13779080.htm "Some of the functions of the peace palace, primarily the store, have just become available at a Maharishi Vedic Spa, which opened Tuesday at Nicollet Avenue and 54th Street in Minneapolis." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Capturing pig power
http://tinyurl.com/9ybke Los Angeles Times, 11Feb2006, Business section Capturing Pig Power The Kyoto pact puts nearly 600 projects in the developing world. One example: energy fueled by hog waste. By Marla Dickerson, Times Staff Writer Georgina Cano had long resigned herself to the stench from the hog farm just up the road from her rural home. Stagnant lagoons of waste from thousands of squealing pigs fouled the air for miles in this flat stretch of central Mexico. Cano's three children complained and occasionally fell ill, but she figured it came with living in a region that produces much of the nation's pork. ADVERTISEMENT Last year, the smell diminished even as the hog production continued. "Now I hardly notice it," said Cano, 37, gesturing toward the low sheds about half a mile from her home. "It's healthier for the children." Cano's family and neighbors can credit a little known Irish company for helping them to breathe easier these days. Thanks to the Kyoto Protocol, the 1997 international treaty on climate change, efforts by industrialized countries to fight global warming are popping up in far-flung places like Villagran, a hamlet about 40 miles southwest of the city of Queretero. Nearly 600 Kyoto-related projects are in the pipeline in the developing world, according to a recent tally by a Danish climate research center funded in part by the United Nations. About 40% of them are in Latin America, including hydroelectric power plants in Honduras and wind-powered turbines in Chile. The accord, which the United States has not ratified, calls for reducing overall greenhouse-gas emissions by major industrialized countries in the period 2008-2012 to amounts at least 5% below 1990 levels. More than 150 nations have signed and ratified the treaty, but the burden to reduce emissions falls on about three dozen industrialized countries responsible for most of the climate mess. One way for industrialized countries to meet their reduction targets is to support environmental projects in developing regions. Dubbed the Clean Development Mechanism, it was designed to lower compliance costs for rich nations while funneling much-needed development to poor ones. The climate agreement set up a trading system administered by the U.N. in which the rights to spew pollutants can be bought and sold like stocks. That has spurred interest from entrepreneurs who are funneling money into environmentally friendly projects in exchange for anti-pollution credits. Each credit represents the equivalent of a ton of carbon dioxide kept out of the atmosphere. Although registries for these and other types of emission credits still are being set up by the U.N., buyers and sellers already are making deals. AgCert International, the Dublin, Ireland-based company that installed clean-up equipment on the hog farm near Cano's home, has made commitments to provide nearly $90 million of emission credits to European utility companies and petroleum producers to help them meet their reduction goals. Chief Executive Gregory Haskell, an American and serial entrepreneur with no previous agriculture experience, calculated that more that 1 billion credits would be required to satisfy Kyoto obligations. The opportunity to fill some of that demand led him to found AgCert in 2002. "We looked for what the need was in the marketplace," Haskell said. In Latin America, AgCert has installed pollution-control equipment on about 230 hog and dairy farms in Mexico and Brazil, according to company officials. AgCert hopes to have more than 1,000 facilities operating by the end of 2007 in those nations as well as in Chile and Argentina. Haskell said about 7% of the world's production of greenhouse gases could be attributed to large animal feeding operations, which produce several harmful byproducts, including methane. AgCert replaces open waste lagoons with pits that are lined and covered with a plastic that traps gases emitted by decomposing waste. The gases are piped out of the pit and burned off in a combustion unit that looks like a giant torch. The gases also can be used to fuel generators to provide electricity for the farm, similar to the manure-powered city of Bartertown in "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome," the 1985 film starring Mel Gibson. In addition to providing renewable energy and reducing emissions by around 95%, the system keeps animal waste from leaching into the water table while greatly reducing the foul smell. The process also yields organic fertilizer that farmers can sell or use on their crops. AgCert pays for the construction and equipment, which averages about $150,000 a farm, and takes care of all maintenance for 10 years. The company also is working out a formula to give farmers a share of the revenue from sale of the emission credits, said Hernan Mateus, the company's general manager in Mexico. He said the projects gave jobs to local co
[FairfieldLife] Speaking of dangerous boat rides...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: more on poverty, should anyone be interested
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My objections to your posts on poverty are first that you stereotype the poor > (does anyone ask you if you are spending your money on "frivolous" things?) > and second that your definition of poverty is out of the mainstream, useless > and wrong. > > Just to give one example, consider this, which I took from the Catholic > Campaign for Human Development at > http://www.nccbuscc.org/cchd/povertyusa/index.htm > > "Since 1999, the number of poor Americans suffering from `food insecurity' > and hunger has increased by 3.9 million - 2.8 million adults and more than > one million children. In 2002, 34.9 million people lived in households > experiencing food insecurity - that is, not enough food for basic nourishment - > compared to 33.6 million in 2001 and 31 million in 1999. (U.S. Department of > Agriculture, Household Food Security in the United States, 2002, October > 2003.) > > So much for your notion that no one in this country suffers from a lack of the > necessitites of life. Sorry, I don't believe it for a moment. If you and I went down to the homes of the people in the study, what do you think we'd find? I think we'd find people wasting their money on fast food or cigarettes or beer. The reality is that you can earn minimum wage in this country and have enough for basic nutritional intake. Don't believe everything you read...and start to think for yourself, feste37. Oh, and two more words for you: food stamps. > > Perhaps you have a rosy view of things because Arizona doesn't figure in the > top ten "poverty" states, which are > 1. Mississippi17.3% below the poverty line > 2. New Mexico 17.3% > 3. Louisiana 16.8% > 4. District of Columbia 16.7% > 4. Texas 16.7% > 6. Arkansas 16.4% > 7. Alabama16.0% > 7. Kentucky 16.0% > 9. West Virginia 15.8% > 10. North Carolina15.1% > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > > > I did define it. You must have missed the post, since you didn't > > > > respond to it. I don't know offhand what the number of the post > > was > > > > and don't have time to go to it now. > > > > > > Here 'tis: > > > > > > If your point is that poverty in America is very different from > > > poverty in, say, Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's obvious. > > > Poverty is a relative concept. if you don't have the things that > > the > > > majority of people in your society have, and therefore cannot > > > participate fully in that society, you are poor. > > > > > > > > > > First, thanks to Judy for finding feste37's definition. > > > > Okay. The way you define poverty is completely different from the > > way I define it. I do NOT define it as a relative concept which is, > > of course, the way it is defined by the poverty line definition. > > Plus, my definition has NOTHING to do with whether or not you have > > the same things as the majority of the people in society have. > > > > Nor does my definition include whether or not one can "participate > > fully in that society" because they don't have the things that the > > majority have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's an > > > approximation of a standard definition, I think, if I remember my > > > social science classes from about 15 million years ago. > > > > > > You ask about deprivations. Lack of health insurance, for one, > > which > > > means that people see doctors less often than they should do and > > need > > > to do, and so lack preventive care. Inability to pay for needed > > > medications is another deprivation. Choosing between food and > > > medication is another. I'm sure there are many more. It's > > > called "going without," and the poor quietly learn to do this, but > > > that doesn't mean they are not poor. > > > > > > > > > > ...and I contend that there is no one that the above applies to in > > America...and that is why there are no poor people. There are > > social programs -- government or otherwise -- that will take care of > > those essential needs. > > > > Now I'm going to go back and answer the questions you asked me that > > I haven't yet responded to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I knew it would get around to this pretty quickly: the poor > > > spend > > > > > their money > > > > > > on booze and cigarettes and on other stuff that > > > they "shouldn't" > > > > > buy. They > > > > > > should really be more responsible, just like we are (who do > > not > > > > > have to put
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > **SNIP** > How compulsory is a subpoena? Do you get arrested if you ignore it, or does > it just weaken your case? Last time MMY was in the U.S., he was subpoenaed, > and he didn't respond. > **END** A subpoena is a court order and (technically) failure to respond to one is considered contempt of the court and the person is subject to sanctions, which generally means throwing them in jail for a few days. However, courts rarely sanction someone the first go around, or even the second or more depending on the subpoened person's importance to the case of the party who is doing the subpoena-ing and the crankiness of the court in general. It wouldn't necessarily have any bearing on the case except get the judge pissed at you (and your side) and therefore create an unfavorable dynamic, but (again, depending on the complexity of the case and the importance of the non-responding subpoened witness) the court might impose evidentiary sanctions on the other side, not allowing them to present certain other opposing witnesses or affirmative defenses, etc. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It would be good if...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/12/06 1:52 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > >> In a message dated 2/11/06 10:34:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, > >> buckeyecreek@ writes: > >> > >> This is the phrase someone always used to order us to do > >> something in the guise of a polite request...from our meeting > >> in La Antilla to our wedding in Fairfiled and now 26 years > >> later, we still say to each other "it would be good if..." > >> when we think someone is trying to make us do their bidding > >> by pretending it is for our own benefit... > >> > >> Yes that is a good one. How about "Oh, Maharishi wouldn't > >> like that". Makes that person sound like they are in tune > >> with the master and you aren't. > > > > Exactly. And don't forget the uniquitous "Maharishisez," > > used to introduce a quote, taken out of context, that is > > supposed to silence the other person and bring the > > discussion or argument to a close. :-) > > I was once giving an intro lecture in Yonkers, NY and I kept saying > "Maharishisez." Finally some woman interrupted me and asked, "Who's Marsha?" LOL . What a great story. And so New York, too. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2/12/06 4:21 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Not a chance. If the law firms in question have their > > acts together, they will be advising the TMO to never > > allow any of these cases to come to court. If they did, > > the TMO's way of doing business would be exposed to > > public scrutiny, and many records and individuals would > > be subpoena-able. IMO, they will stick with empty threats. > > > > On the other hand, wouldn't it be fascinating to see the > > song and dance if they *did* allow one of these cases to > > come to court, and Maharishi himself was subpoenad? We > > all know that there is not an icicle's chance in hell > > that he'd appear, which would prejudice the case in > > favor of the defendant. > > How compulsory is a subpoena? Do you get arrested if you > ignore it, or does it just weaken your case? Don't know. > Last time MMY was in the U.S., he was subpoenaed, > and he didn't respond. He probably would've appeared if the subpoena had been issued by the Court of Natural Law. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
on 2/12/06 4:21 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Not a chance. If the law firms in question have their > acts together, they will be advising the TMO to never > allow any of these cases to come to court. If they did, > the TMO's way of doing business would be exposed to > public scrutiny, and many records and individuals would > be subpoena-able. IMO, they will stick with empty threats. > > On the other hand, wouldn't it be fascinating to see the > song and dance if they *did* allow one of these cases to > come to court, and Maharishi himself was subpoenad? We > all know that there is not an icicle's chance in hell > that he'd appear, which would prejudice the case in > favor of the defendant. How compulsory is a subpoena? Do you get arrested if you ignore it, or does it just weaken your case? Last time MMY was in the U.S., he was subpoenaed, and he didn't respond. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Slang
--- sparaig wrote: > > I heard "sold on" as opposed to "sold out." You obviously have celestial hearing, which divines the intention of what's spoken. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It would be good if...
on 2/12/06 1:52 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> In a message dated 2/11/06 10:34:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> This is the phrase someone always used to order us to do >> something in the guise of a polite request...from our meeting >> in La Antilla to our wedding in Fairfiled and now 26 years >> later, we still say to each other "it would be good if..." >> when we think someone is trying to make us do their bidding >> by pretending it is for our own benefit... >> >> Yes that is a good one. How about "Oh, Maharishi wouldn't >> like that". Makes that person sound like they are in tune >> with the master and you aren't. > > Exactly. And don't forget the uniquitous "Maharishisez," > used to introduce a quote, taken out of context, that is > supposed to silence the other person and bring the > discussion or argument to a close. :-) I was once giving an intro lecture in Yonkers, NY and I kept saying "Maharishisez." Finally some woman interrupted me and asked, "Who's Marsha?" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Bush receives Sri Sri in White House
Old news: http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/may/17aziz.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Slang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/11/06 9:28:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Well in keeping with the TM slang theme of this thread, I should > > point out that not only does your building need some work, these > > people sound like they have 'deep stress on the level of their > > nervous systems.' You could improve things by introducing an > > 'effortless technique' to reduce stress and increase productivity. > > I would recommend a 'Technology of Unified Field' that way they can > > come into contact with 'all the laws of nature'. If these people > > don't evolve, nature will destroy them--and we all know that's bad > > for business. Vacation schedules could be arranged to allow for > > "PK"--I betcha they're filled with toxins. :-) It's blocking them > > from the "field of all possibilities". > > > > I especially like the part about "living in harmony with all the > > laws of nature", sounds so native american! > > As long as your teepee doesn't face south... > And your peepee doesn't point north... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shremp, you got me intrigued with your quote, so I checked out > the recording. It was on the 12th March 1974 in Brussels, Belgium, > about one and a half hours into the 'Intro lecture' during which > Jerry Jarvis also made a contribution. MMY said:- > > 'Give the knowledge pertaining to the practice. Satisfy all the > doubts and questions regarding understanding and then leave the > man to be with his tradition, with his culture, with his way of > life, with everything that he wants to do. Just fifteen minutes > morning and evening. He can practise HUNDREDS of meditations, > we don't mind. As long as he does this fifteen minutes, twenty > minutes, morning and evening he'll enjoy, he will begin to enjoy > everything that he will do'. Unless he's living in a non-vastu house, of course. Or England. Then he's hosed. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth's "Chandler's Wobble" has stopped. Does this matter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > > > Some of you exotic folk should be able to > > comment on this peculiar story about the > > cessation (over the past three weeks only) > > of the Earth's wobble: > > http://tinyurl.com/chomx > > Sat Yuga...everything's becoming more balanced. > Just thought I'd say it before Brigante did. :-) The delay is his trying to justify pinning it on England. Ergo, it will have to be a bad thing. But, looking on the bright side, less beer will be spilled in Newcastle. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: more on poverty, should anyone be interested
My objections to your posts on poverty are first that you stereotype the poor (does anyone ask you if you are spending your money on "frivolous" things?) and second that your definition of poverty is out of the mainstream, useless and wrong. Just to give one example, consider this, which I took from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development at http://www.nccbuscc.org/cchd/povertyusa/index.htm "Since 1999, the number of poor Americans suffering from `food insecurity' and hunger has increased by 3.9 million - 2.8 million adults and more than one million children. In 2002, 34.9 million people lived in households experiencing food insecurity - that is, not enough food for basic nourishment - compared to 33.6 million in 2001 and 31 million in 1999. (U.S. Department of Agriculture, Household Food Security in the United States, 2002, October 2003.) So much for your notion that no one in this country suffers from a lack of the necessitites of life. Perhaps you have a rosy view of things because Arizona doesn't figure in the top ten "poverty" states, which are 1. Mississippi 17.3% below the poverty line 2. New Mexico 17.3% 3. Louisiana16.8% 4. District of Columbia 16.7% 4. Texas16.7% 6. Arkansas16.4% 7. Alabama 16.0% 7. Kentucky 16.0% 9. West Virginia15.8% 10. North Carolina 15.1% --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > I did define it. You must have missed the post, since you didn't > > > respond to it. I don't know offhand what the number of the post > was > > > and don't have time to go to it now. > > > > Here 'tis: > > > > If your point is that poverty in America is very different from > > poverty in, say, Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's obvious. > > Poverty is a relative concept. if you don't have the things that > the > > majority of people in your society have, and therefore cannot > > participate fully in that society, you are poor. > > > > > First, thanks to Judy for finding feste37's definition. > > Okay. The way you define poverty is completely different from the > way I define it. I do NOT define it as a relative concept which is, > of course, the way it is defined by the poverty line definition. > Plus, my definition has NOTHING to do with whether or not you have > the same things as the majority of the people in society have. > > Nor does my definition include whether or not one can "participate > fully in that society" because they don't have the things that the > majority have. > > > > > > > > That's an > > approximation of a standard definition, I think, if I remember my > > social science classes from about 15 million years ago. > > > > You ask about deprivations. Lack of health insurance, for one, > which > > means that people see doctors less often than they should do and > need > > to do, and so lack preventive care. Inability to pay for needed > > medications is another deprivation. Choosing between food and > > medication is another. I'm sure there are many more. It's > > called "going without," and the poor quietly learn to do this, but > > that doesn't mean they are not poor. > > > > > ...and I contend that there is no one that the above applies to in > America...and that is why there are no poor people. There are > social programs -- government or otherwise -- that will take care of > those essential needs. > > Now I'm going to go back and answer the questions you asked me that > I haven't yet responded to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I knew it would get around to this pretty quickly: the poor > > spend > > > > their money > > > > > on booze and cigarettes and on other stuff that > > they "shouldn't" > > > > buy. They > > > > > should really be more responsible, just like we are (who do > not > > > > have to put up > > > > > with their privations). And as for the 1,000 dentists within > a > > 50- > > > > mile radius who > > > > > would be happy to treat the "deserving" poor for free -- > that's > > a > > > > good one! > > > > > Where on earth do you live, Shemp? Is this another Texan > > fantasy? > > > > And who > > > > > decides who is "deserving"? Do YOU have to prove you > > > > are "deserving" when > > > > > you get health care? Do YOU have to prove you don't smoke or > > > > drink? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tell you what, feste37, you answer my questions about the > > definition > > > > of poverty and then I'll get around to answering YOUR question. > > > > > > > > And I'm not trying to just play and game of tit-for-tat with > you; > > > > the definition
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth's "Chandler's Wobble" has stopped. Does this matter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > > > Some of you exotic folk should be able to > > comment on this peculiar story about the > > cessation (over the past three weeks only) > > of the Earth's wobble: > > http://tinyurl.com/chomx > > Sat Yuga...everything's becoming more balanced. > > Just thought I'd say it before Brigante did. :-) > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
Shremp, you got me intrigued with your quote, so I checked out the recording. It was on the 12th March 1974 in Brussels, Belgium, about one and a half hours into the 'Intro lecture' during which Jerry Jarvis also made a contribution. MMY said:- 'Give the knowledge pertaining to the practice. Satisfy all the doubts and questions regarding understanding and then leave the man to be with his tradition, with his culture, with his way of life, with everything that he wants to do. Just fifteen minutes morning and evening. He can practise HUNDREDS of meditations, we don't mind. As long as he does this fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, morning and evening he'll enjoy, he will begin to enjoy everything that he will do'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've always taken the tact that MMY took (only that one time!) in > Belgium in March 1974 when he said that you can practise 100 > different techniques as long as you do TM twice a day. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth's "Chandler's Wobble" has stopped. Does this matter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some of you exotic folk should be able to > comment on this peculiar story about the > cessation (over the past three weeks only) > of the Earth's wobble: > http://tinyurl.com/chomx Sat Yuga...everything's becoming more balanced. Just thought I'd say it before Brigante did. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Earth's "Chandler's Wobble" has stopped. Does this matter?
Some of you exotic folk should be able to comment on this peculiar story about the cessation (over the past three weeks only) of the Earth's wobble: http://tinyurl.com/chomx Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > Forwarded Message From: Mike Scozzari Date: Sat, 11 Feb > > 2006 17:26:47 -0800 To: Rick Archer Subject: TMO > > Legal: Cease and desist Letter? > > > > Hi Rick > > > > If possible, please post on Fairfield life. This is the most > > recentl letter i received from the TMO. According to one > > attorney, it's mostly saber rattling. > > > > Mike > > I hope Mike has some good representation. And a lot of money. > > JohnY > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It would be good if...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > Yes that is a good one. How about "Oh, Maharishi wouldn't > > like that". Makes that person sound like they are in tune > > with the master and you aren't. > > There is an important lesson here that I think we > should all be aware of on discussion forums like > this one. Have you ever noticed the subtle "under- > message" in place when some poster accuses another > of a "failing?" > > "You're not being intellectually consistent" or > "Your arguments are not rational" is meant to > 1) elevate the supposed value of intellectuality/ > rationality and imply that they are somehow more > important or more "evolved" than other ways of > seeing things, Other ways such as being inconsistent or irrational, yes, indeed. I mean, it's just so obvious to any rational person...er, I mean, it should be obvious to anybody that consistency and inconsistency, or rationality and irrationality, are equally effective approaches to discussion, equally effective forms of communication. Actually, inconsistency and irrationality are probably *better* approaches, when you come right down to it. If you think about it rationally...er, I mean, being able to contradict yourself gives you a virtually unlimited range of options to further the discussion. and 2) imply that the person > hurling the putdown is more "in tune" with this > "more evolved" mode of functioning that the > putdownee. That certainly is the logical conclusion...er, I mean, putting down a person who espouses rationality and consistency is the ultimate refutation to any argument they might come up with. Makes perfect sense to me...er, I mean... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Ingegerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mike has nothing to worry about... > > > > No, he has nothing to worry about. > > Ingegerd > > Maybe, but it's still pretty nerve wracking! It is. Ingegerd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ~--> > > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > > poor with hope and healing > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > > > --- -~-> > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: we publish the "M" cartoon here...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" > wrote: > > > > http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/3fe2?b=1 > > Infidel!!! > > True Believers everywhere should march against the > infidel publication Fairfield Life, and call for the > assassination of those responsible for such blasphemous > attacks on our holy prophet! > > :-) Well...it worked in Denmark... :-) > +++ Is something missing in the translation?- If you don't believe it is a peaceful bunch, they will cut off your head. N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- Ingegerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Mike has nothing to worry about... > > No, he has nothing to worry about. > Ingegerd Maybe, but it's still pretty nerve wracking! > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Slang
On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 2/11/06 9:28:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Well in keeping with the TM slang theme of this thread, I should point out that not only does your building need some work, these people sound like they have 'deep stress on the level of their nervous systems.' You could improve things by introducing an 'effortless technique' to reduce stress and increase productivity. I would recommend a 'Technology of Unified Field' that way they can come into contact with 'all the laws of nature'. If these people don't evolve, nature will destroy them--and we all know that's bad for business. Vacation schedules could be arranged to allow for "PK"--I betcha they're filled with toxins. :-) It's blocking them from the "field of all possibilities".I especially like the part about "living in harmony with all the laws of nature", sounds so native american!As long as your teepee doesn't face south... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Slang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > I don't think Maharishi ever considered the possibility > > of an accident on the boatrides or a student at his > > university losing it so badly he commits a murder, or > > someone setting fire to themselves in a basement room. > > Maybe its an Indian attitude: You can ride in an Indian car with a > policemean accompaning you with nobody putting seatbelts on. > > > Interestingly enough, the fellow I studied with for > > some time, Rama, was almost always conscientious about > > making sure his students were safe. > > Which didn't prevent him to commit suicide himself. What an apt > example! Yup, he sure did. In the early days of his teaching, he seemed concerned with his students' welfare and with systematically toppling any pedestal his students tried to put him up on. Towards the end of his life he seemed more interested in erecting those pedestals himself and with serving himself rather than serving others. If nothing else, his life is an interesting study in karma, IMO especially the karma of someone who believed he could get away with abusing a Class C controlled substance (Valium) and have it not affect his behavior and his judgement. Chogyam Trungpa did the same thing with alcohol. IMO, how both of their lives turned out was a real waste of talent and potential, and an object lesson to be learned from. Maharishi seems to be headed down the same path, but without chemical "assistance." Go figure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Slang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think Maharishi ever considered the possibility > of an accident on the boatrides or a student at his > university losing it so badly he commits a murder, or > someone setting fire to themselves in a basement room. Maybe its an Indian attitude: You can ride in an Indian car with a policemean accompaning you with nobody putting seatbelts on. > Interestingly enough, the fellow I studied with for > some time, Rama, was almost always conscientious about > making sure his students were safe. Which didn't prevent him to commit suicide himself. What an apt example! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: we publish the "M" cartoon here...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/3fe2?b=1 Infidel!!! True Believers everywhere should march against the infidel publication Fairfield Life, and call for the assassination of those responsible for such blasphemous attacks on our holy prophet! :-) Well...it worked in Denmark... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > wrote: > > > > It looks pretty much as the letter I received from the TMO - > > maybe they use a standard formula. > > I'm sure they do. And the lawyers probably get paid > $100-200 per hour to have their secretaries churn out > form letters like this. > > > All the letters I received said "within > > 7 days - otherwise we.." > > Which, interestingly, they never follow up by actually > doing the "otherwise." > > > It would have been good to try these things in court. > > Not a chance. If the law firms in question have their > acts together, they will be advising the TMO to never > allow any of these cases to come to court. If they did, > the TMO's way of doing business would be exposed to > public scrutiny, and many records and individuals would > be subpoena-able. IMO, they will stick with empty threats. > > On the other hand, wouldn't it be fascinating to see the > song and dance if they *did* allow one of these cases to > come to court, and Maharishi himself was subpoenad? We > all know that there is not an icicle's chance in hell > that he'd appear, which would prejudice the case in > favor of the defendant. And if the defendent's lawyers > subpoenad the actual agreements signed by the TM teacher > being sued, there is a *very* small possibility that the > TM movement would be able to produce them. Back when I > worked at TM National in L.A. in the mid 70s, there was > an attempt to create a computerized record of all the > people who had been made TM teachers and all of the > people who had learned TM. They could find records for > less than an estimated 20% of them. The people handling > the storage of such records were blissninnies who just > threw the documents somewhere and then moved on to some > course or some other town, telling no one where they'd > put them. > > The best part of this particular fiasco was that no one > could find evidence that any of the leaders of the TM > movement in the US at the time -- such as Jerry Jarvis > and three of the four Regional Coordinators -- had ever > been instructed in TM. :-) > > Mike has nothing to worry about... No, he has nothing to worry about. Ingegerd > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New antigravity solution!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > New Antigravity Solution Could Enable Space Travel Near Speed > of Light > Friday February 10, 11:30 am ET > New Exact Solution of Einstein's Gravitational Field Equation > Discovered by Physicist Franklin Felber Will Revolutionize Space > Propulsion by Enabling Low-Cost Propulsion Near Speed of Light Although such a discovery would be neat, this smacks of self promotion, as does the article posted below. Dr. Felber is not even due to *present* his findings to NASA until April 14, but "press release" articles like this are appearing in advance. Doesn't sound like real science to me. Felber to present near-light speed concept 2/10/2006 10:49:00 AM By: Taken from StarMark Release Noted physicist Dr. Franklin Felber will present his new exact solution of Einstein's 90-year-old gravitational field equation to the Space Technology and Applications International Forum (STAIF) in Albuquerque on Febuary 14. The solution is the first that accounts for masses moving near the speed of light. Felber's solution takes away the equation of needing huge energy sources on board a ship travelling at such huge speeds, instead the ship will draw its energy from 'massive star'. Felber's antigravity discovery solves the two greatest engineering challenges to space travel near the speed of light: identifying an energy source capable of producing the acceleration; and limiting stresses on humans and equipment during rapid acceleration. 'Dr. Felber's research will revolutionize space flight mechanics by offering an entirely new way to send spacecraft into flight,' said Dr. Eric Davis, Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin and STAIF peer reviewer of Felber's work. 'His rigorously tested and truly unique thinking has taken us a huge step forward in making near- speed-of-light space travel safe, possible, and much less costly.' The field equation of Einstein's General Theory of Relativity has never before been solved to calculate the gravitational field of a mass moving close to the speed of light. Felber's research shows that any mass moving faster than 57.7 percent of the speed of light will gravitationally repel other masses lying within a narrow 'antigravity beam' in front of it. The closer a mass gets to the speed of light, the stronger its 'antigravity beam' becomes. Felber's calculations show how to use the repulsion of a body speeding through space to provide the enormous energy needed to accelerate massive payloads quickly with negligible stress. The new solution of Einstein's field equation shows that the payload would 'fall weightlessly' in an antigravity beam even as it was accelerated close to the speed of light. Accelerating a 1-ton payload to 90 percent of the speed of light requires an energy of at least 30 billion tons of TNT. In the 'antigravity beam' of a speeding star, a payload would draw its energy from the antigravity force of the much more massive star. In effect, the payload would be hitching a ride on a star. 'Based on this research, I expect a mission to accelerate a massive payload to a 'good fraction of light speed' will be launched before the end of this century,' said Dr. Felber. 'These antigravity solutions of Einstein's theory can change our view of our ability to travel to the far reaches of our universe.' More immediately, Felber's new solution can be used to test Einstein's theory of gravity at low cost in a storage-ring laboratory facility by detecting antigravity in the unexplored regime of near-speed-of-light velocities. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] we publish the "M" cartoon here...
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/3fe2?b=1 http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/3fe2? b=2&m=s&o=0 please add your own to the album... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] New antigravity solution!
New Antigravity Solution Could Enable Space Travel Near Speed of Light Friday February 10, 11:30 am ET New Exact Solution of Einstein's Gravitational Field Equation Discovered by Physicist Franklin Felber Will Revolutionize Space Propulsion by Enabling Low-Cost Propulsion Near Speed of Light Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It would be good if...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Buckeyecreek, my good fellow, you missed the BEST Movement phrase! > > > > It's not "It would be good if...", it's "Perhaps it would be > > best if...". > > > > Adding the "perhaps" and using "best" instead of "good" has SO > > many subtle advantages to it! > > *Especially* if the sentiment one is trying to express > is, "Perhaps it would be best if you shut up and did > what I say/agree with me, and stop challenging my > authority." It's classic passive-agressive behavior. But to provide some balance, "It would be good if..." can also be used, and often is used, as a polite way to present an alternative way of seeing things to people who are locked into their own way of seeing things so strongly that they can see no other. It's all in the intent behind the words, and the manner in which the phrase is delivered. The key seems to be developing the intuition to tell one form of the buzzphrase from the other, to discern coercion disguised by movement-speak from an actual attempt to help out. The key factor, in my experience, is watching the speaker's history *over time*. If, over a period of time, the person using this phrase repeatedly really does seem to have the intent of smoothing things out and producing the best possible results, that should be kept in mind the next time he uses the buzzphrase. If, on the other hand, the speaker has a consistent history of trying to get his way or prove himself "right" and/or someone else "wrong," that should also be kept in mind. I was fortunate enough to study with a teacher who trained us to listen intuitively to the intent behind words, not just to the words themselves. The same phrase can mean completely different things, depending on the intent of the person speaking it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > Forwarded Message From: Mike Scozzari Date: Sat, 11 Feb > > 2006 17:26:47 -0800 To: Rick Archer Subject: TMO > > Legal: Cease and desist Letter? > > > > Hi Rick > > > > If possible, please post on Fairfield life. This is the most > recentl letter > > i received from the TMO. According to one attorney, it's mostly saber > > rattling. > > > > Mike > > > I hope Mike has some good representation. > > JohnY > Doesn't sound like it. Regardless, if he doesn't comply and they don't file, I'm sure we will here about it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/11/06 7:29 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Do you begin to understand why those who have only > > tried one technique of meditation in their lives > > and yet who claim steadfastly that it's "the best" > > are not taken seriously, or are laughed at? It's > > actually pretty simple. > > They quote scientific research to support their contention, but who did the > research? > Which research? The ones done by teams of people who do different meditation techniques or the MUM/MIU-only research? The most famous modern studies are the ones done by teams of people who practice TM AND other techniques, you know... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/11/06 2:31 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The photos were great. But who is Girish Varma, > exactly? > > What does he do in the TMO? His picture is hung > on the wall in the background > > of a few > > photos, and his picture is the same size as and > right next to that of > > Maharishi. > > He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head > cheese over there. > >>> > >>> I get a strange vibe from that dude! > >>> > >> His name is on almost every board for each org that files tax > > returns. > >> He's also on all the Indian TM sites that mix TM and business > >> ventures. Yup it's a strange vibe. > >> > >> JohnY > >> > > > > A trusted relative (worthy of trust or not) on the board of directors > > of the founder of various organizations isn't exactly unheard of... > > If the "Maharishi has been blackmailed all these years" theory is correct, > then he's probably the prime culprit. > What blackmailing theory are we talking about? First I've heard of it... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Slang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was always uncomfortable using the phrase > "sold out" to mean "committed." > > "Susan is sold out to the movement" was a > positive assessment of Susan's attitude, whereas > in normal speech, "to sell out" means one has > abandoned one's values. > > Freudian, no? I heard "sold on" as opposed to "sold out." > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > An idea for a thread, just for fun. We all know that > > the TM movement is jargon-heavy. But are there bits > > of jargon that have been twisted over time into fun > > ways of expressing experiences and concepts that *no > > one in the world* but someone who has paid their dues > > in the TM movement would understand. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Slang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/11/06 5:09:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > asked what exactly he meant, and he said, "You know > how it is...Maharishi announces some special moonlight > boatride, and you're really looking forward to it. > But then you actually get onto the boat and it's cold > and damp and uncomfortable and absolutely nothing is > happening, and after about half an hour all you want > to do is go home." :-) > > > > One real subtle one that I still catch myself using to this day is to "take > lunch". Nobody "takes lunch" in the real world! They go to lunch, or have > lunch! I got the weirdest looks from people when I would say "let's take lunch". > I guess you could also include "make a paper". > Take a lunch break... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" wrote: > > > > > > --- bbrigante wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I never saw the head cook extinguish his cigarette > > > > > > > by any means other than throwing it in the > > > > > > > root beer tank > > > > > > > > > > > > In the case of A&W root beer, that might *help* the flavor. > > > > > > > > > > I used to think that A&W was pretty good until I tried > > > > > Virgil's. > > > > > > > > Now you understand many posters here. They used to > > > > think that TM was pretty good until they tried another > > > > path or set of techniques. > > > > > > > > It's all about experience... > > > > > > Or lack of experience... > > > > Exactly. Those who have only tasted A&W rootbeer > > are not qualified to comment on the quality of any > > other brand. > > > > If they had tasted the other brands and decided > > that they actually preferred A&W, they would be. > > But to claim that A&W is "the best," never having > > tried any others, would be kinda laughable, n'est- > > ce pas? > > > > Do you begin to understand why those who have only > > tried one technique of meditation in their lives > > and yet who claim steadfastly that it's "the best" > > are not taken seriously, or are laughed at? It's > > actually pretty simple. > > Actually the simple part is that the rootbeer analogy > is bogus. > Simplicity is the key tothe whole thing, IMNSHO... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It looks pretty much as the letter I received from the TMO - > maybe they use a standard formula. I'm sure they do. And the lawyers probably get paid $100-200 per hour to have their secretaries churn out form letters like this. > All the letters I received said "within > 7 days - otherwise we.." Which, interestingly, they never follow up by actually doing the "otherwise." > It would have been good to try these things in court. Not a chance. If the law firms in question have their acts together, they will be advising the TMO to never allow any of these cases to come to court. If they did, the TMO's way of doing business would be exposed to public scrutiny, and many records and individuals would be subpoena-able. IMO, they will stick with empty threats. On the other hand, wouldn't it be fascinating to see the song and dance if they *did* allow one of these cases to come to court, and Maharishi himself was subpoenad? We all know that there is not an icicle's chance in hell that he'd appear, which would prejudice the case in favor of the defendant. And if the defendent's lawyers subpoenad the actual agreements signed by the TM teacher being sued, there is a *very* small possibility that the TM movement would be able to produce them. Back when I worked at TM National in L.A. in the mid 70s, there was an attempt to create a computerized record of all the people who had been made TM teachers and all of the people who had learned TM. They could find records for less than an estimated 20% of them. The people handling the storage of such records were blissninnies who just threw the documents somewhere and then moved on to some course or some other town, telling no one where they'd put them. The best part of this particular fiasco was that no one could find evidence that any of the leaders of the TM movement in the US at the time -- such as Jerry Jarvis and three of the four Regional Coordinators -- had ever been instructed in TM. :-) Mike has nothing to worry about... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Legal: Cease and desist Letter?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > Forwarded Message From: Mike Scozzari Date: Sat, 11 Feb > > 2006 17:26:47 -0800 To: Rick Archer Subject: TMO > > Legal: Cease and desist Letter? > > > > Hi Rick > > > > If possible, please post on Fairfield life. This is the most > recentl letter > > i received from the TMO. According to one attorney, it's mostly saber > > rattling. > > > > Mike > > > I hope Mike has some good representation. > > JohnY > It looks pretty much as the letter I received from the TMO - maybe they use a standard formula. All the letters I received said "within 7 days - otherwise we.." It would have been good to try these things in court. Ingegerd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It would be good if...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All that was needed were those two magical words: > "Maharishi said..." > > Or the more defensive version: "BUT Maharishi said..." Or, come to think of it, *any* sentence starting with the word 'BUT...' Think about it. I've been in spiritual organizations where the students *don't* tend to argue, to start sentences with 'BUT...' and present another point of view that is obviously meant to be the "right" or dominant point of view. In such organizations, replies tend to start with, 'AND...,' as if the speaker were merely introducing another way of seeing the situation, one that is not necessarily superior to the point of view he or she is bouncing off of. It's more of a give-and-take, an exchange of different points of view, none necessarily better or more correct than another. Compare and contrast this to the TMO, in which we hear sentences that begin with 'BUT...' a *lot*. My suggestion for why this is is that the very nature of TM teaching is pedantry. TM teachers are trained to memorize the "right" answer to every question, the "right" comeback to every criticism. And these "right" answers get passed along to the TM rank and file, who then tend to mindlessly repeat them whenever the same question or criticism arises. The repeated buzzphrases and dogma were originally presented as "right;" they are repeated as "right." There is always the supposition that there *IS* a "right" answer to the question or criticism, a "right" point of view to take in such situations. The word 'BUT...," used to introduce a sentence, in most cases defines someone who is convinced that he or she is "right," and is about to make a stand and attempt to convince the other person that he or she *IS* "right." It's the introduction to a butting of heads, an attempt to establish dominance. It's the expression of a self that feels challenged, an ego fighting to convince itself not only that it knows the "truth," but that it exists. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It would be good if...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yes that is a good one. How about "Oh, Maharishi wouldn't > like that". Makes that person sound like they are in tune > with the master and you aren't. There is an important lesson here that I think we should all be aware of on discussion forums like this one. Have you ever noticed the subtle "under- message" in place when some poster accuses another of a "failing?" "You're not being intellectually consistent" or "Your arguments are not rational" is meant to 1) elevate the supposed value of intellectuality/ rationality and imply that they are somehow more important or more "evolved" than other ways of seeing things, and 2) imply that the person hurling the putdown is more "in tune" with this "more evolved" mode of functioning that the putdownee. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It would be good if...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes that is a good one. How about "Oh, Maharishi wouldn't > like that". Makes that person sound like they are in tune > with the master and you aren't. There is an important lesson here that I think we could all learn from on this discussion forum. Have you ever noticed the subtle "undermessage" in place when someone poster accuses someone of something? "You're not being intellectually consistent" or "Your arguments are not rational" is meant to 1) elevate the supposed value of intellectuality and imply that it is somehow more "evolved" or more important than other ways of seeing things, and 2) imply that the person hurling the putdown is more "in tune" with this "more evolved" mode of functioning that the putdownee. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It would be good if...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > Yes that is a good one. How about "Oh, Maharishi wouldn't like > > that". Makes that person sound like they are in tune with the > > master and you aren't. > > All that was needed were those two magical words: "Maharishi > said..." > > Or the more defensive version: "BUT Maharishi said..." That's not defensive...it's *offensive*. It's your classic thought-stopper, meant to silence dissent. And the fascinating thing about this term is that it is the one that is NOT learned directly from Maharishi, because he doesn't do it. He rarely silences dissent or gets passive-agressive by saying, "GuruDevSez." No, this is just one of those things that people bring with them *to* a hierarchical organization and use to fight their way to the top of it. Happens in every spiritual trip with a leader at the top. The leader's name is invoked by the social climbers as they climb, usually just before they step on someone else's fingers on the ladder. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: It would be good if...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Buckeyecreek, my good fellow, you missed the BEST Movement phrase! > > It's not "It would be good if...", it's "Perhaps it would be best > if...". > > Adding the "perhaps" and using "best" instead of "good" has SO > many subtle advantages to it! *Especially* if the sentiment one is trying to express is, "Perhaps it would be best if you shut up and did what I say/agree with me, and stop challenging my authority." It's classic passive-agressive behavior. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > If the "Maharishi has been blackmailed all these years" > > > > theory is correct, > > > > then he's probably the prime culprit. > > > > > > I've never really heard that theory before. Manipulted yes, > > > blackmailed that's new to me. > > > > I do not think MMy has been blackmailed or manipulated. I > > think he knew what he was doing when it cames to money. > > In the 60ths 50 % of all initiation fees was sent to India. > > You do not need to be psycic to figure out - that the money > > had do go into some bank-account that someone own. Or into suitcases or briefcases so that it can't be traced -- remember Leon Weiner and all the funds transferred from country to country in that way. > > And I think that the only ones that he trusted was/ is > > his family. The whole thing has been / is family business. We > > thought that we - the TM-Teachers - was his family - we were not. > > We certainly aren't family - we aren't even officially > teachers these days. I'm pretty sure that we'll never > know were the money went. After all these years of people trusting completely, and *not caring* where the money went, it's basically untraceable. A non-profit organization is *supposed to* publish detailed records of its income and expenses every year, but since the TM movement has a proven record of moving money across international borders illegally, I think it's safe to assume that part of its intent from Day One was to *hide* how much money the organization has. At this point, after four decades of doing this, I'm sure no one has a clue. However, given human nature, It would be a stretch of the imagination to believe that large amounts of this money had *not* found its way into the pockets of unscrupulous people taking advantage of the situation. My bet is that *most* of the money went into these people's pockets, and that no one will ever see a penny of it again, much less see it spent on the "projects" it was raised for. It's basically the Enron model -- raise money for a "project," transfer the money to untraceable accounts within days of receiving it, and then kill of the "project." Enron did it for years before the bubble exploded, and they were a publicly-traded corporation that was under scrutiny from the SEC and its own stockholders. Almost no one in the TMO has *ever* scrutinized or asked about the money that the TMO handles; what could thieves get away with in *that* organization if they wanted to? My bet is that they did, and will continue to do so quietly until Maharishi dies. And then, for a period of about two or three months after his death, they'll do so openly, throwing caution to the wind, and then beat feet for whatever island they've bought with the proceeds, and leave the blissninnies to try to figure out what happened to them and handle the bankruptcy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
