[FairfieldLife] Over 12 languages thoroughly!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jones_%28philologist%29 Jones was born at Beaufort Buildings, Westminster; his father (also named Sir William Jones) was a mathematician. The young William Jones was a linguistic prodigy, learning Greek, Latin, Persian, Arabic and the basics of Chinese writing at an early age. By the end of his life he knew thirteen languages thoroughly and another twenty-eight reasonably well, making him a hyperpolyglot. Though his father died when he was only three, Jones was still able to go to Harrow and on to university. He graduated from University College, Oxford in 1764. Too poor, even with his award, to pay the fees, he gained a job tutoring seven-year-old Lord Althorp, son of Earl Spencer and as such an ancestor of Princess Diana. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/2/06 3:51 PM, Anthony Sumner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Thank Mother Divine for > > Incarnating > > Care to elaborate on this? Yeah...it sounds as if there's really a cool insane fantasy in there somewhere... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Alex Stanley wrote: > > > > the joys of the relative have not returned to the > > overshadowing glory they used to be. Erotically, I'm still dead. > > Enjoyment of food returned only a little bit. Gazing with Waking > > Down > > teachers used to be experientially delicious, and now it is flat. > > Basically, I'm bored stiff and this body feels like a prison. > > I had a period when life had nothing to offer. Human > beings seemed like little more than shit factories. > After three months, I grew tired of it. I reaffirmed > my belief that life is founded in bliss. I subscribed > to Daily Word and read its affirmations. Life regained > its sparkle because I willed it to. But first I had to > decide the alternative was too tiresome. > > Our experiences undoubtedly spring from different > causes and call for different responses, but that's my > story. I wish you the best of luck. I've never had an extended period of losing interest in life and its joys, but I've occasionally fallen into temporary ruts, ways of thinking and acting that convince me the world has grown boring when in fact I've grown boring. A good Road Trip fixes that every time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > Not the biggest issue confronting this country at > > > the moment, but a transparently clear example of > > > Bush's propensity for extraordinary hypocrisy: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Bush Says Anthem Should Be in English > > > > Apr 28 1:03 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > > > By JEANNINE AVERSA > > > > AP Economics Writer > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON > > > > > > > > The national anthem should be sung in English _ not Spanish _ > > > > President Bush declared Friday, amid growing restlessness over > > the > > > > millions of immigrants here illegally. > > > > > > > When the president was asked at a Rose Garden question-and- > > answer > > > > session whether the anthem should be sung in Spanish, he > > > > replied: "I think the national anthem ought to be sung in > > English, > > > > and I think people who want to be a citizen of this country > > ought > > > > to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national > > > > anthem in English." > > > > > > Turns out a Spanish rendition of the National Anthem > > > was a staple of Bush's appearances in his first > > > presidential campaign, sometimes sung by others, > > > sometimes by Bush himself. And the Spanish version > > > was performed for him at his first inaugural. > > > > Of course, Bush doesn't say above that the national anthem should > > ONLY be sung in English. > > Read it again, Shemp. I did, Judy, and although the reporting says that, that isn't what is in quotes. Read what I wrote, Judy: "...Bush doesn't say above..." indicating quotes. And, of course, you should realize that reporters often get stuff like this wrong. > > > My problem with what Bush said was that I believe he has an > > obligation first and foremost to uphold the constitution and that > > the appropriate first thing to say was: freedom of speech includes > > the freedom to speak the language of your choice. After that, if > he > > felt that, as a leader, he should recommend that people learn > > English and all that, then fine. > > Yes, you said that when you first posted the article. > > Now, after you read it again and get it right about > what he said, would you like to comment on his > hypocrisy? > I will once it is shown to me that he said what you suggested he said. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Computer Nirvana
Alex (et al) I disagree with this based on my personal experience. Four years ago I bought a Dell Dimension, I have it going probably 12 hours per day for business. It, too, has performed flawlessly for 4 straight years with zero problems. Finally, at 4 years it is starting to have some problems-slowing down, stalling a lot more. I'm good at tweaking it, keeping it clean, tracking down problems with it, and with all that it's still finally in need of replacement. I am so impressed with Dell that I am ordering a new one. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > wrote: > > > +++ Hey Alex, wish I could have a little of the boredom as I have a > > serious shortage- haven't had any in the last 50 years. > > Would you have some time on the weekend to debate on what > > computer equipment to buy as I am needing to upgrade. > > It looks like you have quite a bit of expierience with the > > subject and would be a great help. thanks, N. > > For desktop PCs, I always advise against buying from the big PC > manufacturers (Dell, HP, Gateway, etc.) because they're usually made > with proprietary components that are not likely to be as robust as > brand name components. My current desktop machine, which I bought a > few years ago, is from http://www.endpcnoise.com/ , and it has > performed flawlessly. Quality brand name components (especially the > motherboard) make all the difference. > > Since there is no standardized form factor for laptops, they are all > proprietary. Right now I have two laptops. One is an old Dell Latitude > C610 that I bought as a refurb from http://usanotebook.com/ . It's > been fine except for the touchpad going wonky on occasion (a known > issue with this model). The other one is an Averatec 4200 series that > I got from http://newegg.com/ , and it has been a fine little machine > and a lot of computer for not a lot of money. Petra has one too, and > her only complaint is short battery life. > > 'Zat help? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom T: > The reason I suggested Judy and others just give it up is that they > have been using every ounce of will and intention as seekers for > thirty some years Uh, I'm sorry, Tom, but you haven't been reading my posts if you think that's the case, or if you intend the advice you give below to apply to me. > and have yet to find that for which they seek. If > one can really give up the addiction to seeking the > only place left to fall into is the Self. You have > looked outside for it for ever too long. It is inside > just stop seeking, give up caring about what has > been described. Fall back onto who you are. You allready > know this simple thing you are so familiar with yet you > overlook it for some grandiose thing. It is just that > simple. As one man so succintly put it one night when it > finally dawned on him that this simple state we are is > IT. He said I want my money back for all the courses and > CCP program, I have know this for 25 years. It can't be > this simple. Well, three weeks later he finally admitted > that this simple thing really was it and every concept of > what it had to look like and be was gone and he couldn't > hang onto any of those old concepts. Throw in the towel > and see what can happen. Being a not seeker may be a new > and wondeful experience full of freedom. What have you got > to lose. You haven't gotten it with all that seeking. Tom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > Not the biggest issue confronting this country at > > the moment, but a transparently clear example of > > Bush's propensity for extraordinary hypocrisy: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > Bush Says Anthem Should Be in English > > > Apr 28 1:03 PM US/Eastern > > > > > > By JEANNINE AVERSA > > > AP Economics Writer > > > > > > WASHINGTON > > > > > > The national anthem should be sung in English _ not Spanish _ > > > President Bush declared Friday, amid growing restlessness over > the > > > millions of immigrants here illegally. > > > > > When the president was asked at a Rose Garden question-and- > answer > > > session whether the anthem should be sung in Spanish, he > > > replied: "I think the national anthem ought to be sung in > English, > > > and I think people who want to be a citizen of this country > ought > > > to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national > > > anthem in English." > > > > Turns out a Spanish rendition of the National Anthem > > was a staple of Bush's appearances in his first > > presidential campaign, sometimes sung by others, > > sometimes by Bush himself. And the Spanish version > > was performed for him at his first inaugural. > > Of course, Bush doesn't say above that the national anthem should > ONLY be sung in English. Read it again, Shemp. > My problem with what Bush said was that I believe he has an > obligation first and foremost to uphold the constitution and that > the appropriate first thing to say was: freedom of speech includes > the freedom to speak the language of your choice. After that, if he > felt that, as a leader, he should recommend that people learn > English and all that, then fine. Yes, you said that when you first posted the article. Now, after you read it again and get it right about what he said, would you like to comment on his hypocrisy? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Getting To Computer Nirvana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +++ Hey Alex, wish I could have a little of the boredom as I have a > serious shortage- haven't had any in the last 50 years. > Would you have some time on the weekend to debate on what > computer equipment to buy as I am needing to upgrade. > It looks like you have quite a bit of expierience with the > subject and would be a great help. thanks, N. For desktop PCs, I always advise against buying from the big PC manufacturers (Dell, HP, Gateway, etc.) because they're usually made with proprietary components that are not likely to be as robust as brand name components. My current desktop machine, which I bought a few years ago, is from http://www.endpcnoise.com/ , and it has performed flawlessly. Quality brand name components (especially the motherboard) make all the difference. Since there is no standardized form factor for laptops, they are all proprietary. Right now I have two laptops. One is an old Dell Latitude C610 that I bought as a refurb from http://usanotebook.com/ . It's been fine except for the touchpad going wonky on occasion (a known issue with this model). The other one is an Averatec 4200 series that I got from http://newegg.com/ , and it has been a fine little machine and a lot of computer for not a lot of money. Petra has one too, and her only complaint is short battery life. 'Zat help? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
TorquiseB writes snipped final para I'm not going to pursue this whole subject here any more, though. There is just too much resistance on this forum to presenting the taking-an-active-role- in-your-own-realization approach. It's just a waste of time to talk about it, because the decades of indoctrination have been too effective. The waiters have been waiting so long that they can't even imagine that there is something they could do other than waiting. And they get angry when someone *does* suggest such a thing. So I'm going to leave them to their waiting, and hope that approach works out for them in the future a little better than it's worked out for them so far. Tom T: The reason I suggested Judy and others just give it up is that they have been using every ounce of will and intention as seekers for thirty some years and have yet to find that for which they seek. If one can really give up the addiction to seeking the only place left to fall into is the Self. You have looked outside for it for ever too long. It is inside just stop seeking, give up caring about what has been described. Fall back onto who you are. You allready know this simple thing you are so familiar with yet you overlook it for some grandiose thing. It is just that simple. As one man so succintly put it one night when it finally dawned on him that this simple state we are is IT. He said I want my money back for all the courses and CCP program, I have know this for 25 years. It can't be this simple. Well, three weeks later he finally admitted that this simple thing really was it and every concept of what it had to look like and be was gone and he couldn't hang onto any of those old concepts. Throw in the towel and see what can happen. Being a not seeker may be a new and wondeful experience full of freedom. What have you got to lose. You haven't gotten it with all that seeking. Tom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
Jim Flanegin writes: snipped Those who experience liberation also know that as significant as the state is, there is always further knowledge, further experience, further integration occurring. I like to refer to the state of liberation as one of finding vs. seeking, a description that implies that there is infinitely more to know, once our liberation occurs. So, to truly comprehend liberation, both realities must peacefully exist in the mind at the same time, that of the silent unmoving Goal, inner freedom, and that of continuously finding and discovering more and more about our Selves. Tom T; THis is the description of what is known as the Paradox of Brahmin. On the one hand one is done and knows freedom for the first time in ones life as an ever present moment. On the other hand there is an infinity of Self to discover and know more about. Tom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpion-land wins!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > - > --- > "Middle-aged, white Americans are much sicker than their > counterparts in England, > > > ...The English > > have a higher rate of heavy drinking," > > ** > > Well, that explains it then -- alcohol is an excellent preservative, > and the Brits have simply pickled themselves into better health than > the less-dipsomaniac Yanks (with their dried-out Prez as a role model). > ...and what does this news say about the benefits of having pasty white skin and bad teeth? Go figure... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony Sumner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You, like the other European descendants who think this is your land are > quite narrow minded and complete fools! For starters we can get that war > criminal and his cronies out of the White House and then get some one with > intelligence and wisdom in the White House to work with the Mexican gov't > and get this immigration issue resolve and on to the next pressing issue(s) > that confront the whole of humanity. > > Never forget what MMY said, "Peace on Earth will be Powerful, when Power on > Earth will be Peaceful". Right now as I seen it, the power of ego > dominates, at least on the geopolitical landscape of our planet. Which > unfortunately affects almost all of us. Thank Mother Divine for > Incarnating and hopefully soon this nightmare called the bush administration > will be over soon. May the blessings of Guru Dev and the Divine Mother shed its light upon the whole of humanity with the exception of Anthony Sumner who should receive the entirety of the snot and vomit of the King of Rakshasas upon his underarms, the soft flesh between his big and second toe and his private parts. > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] May 1st Illegal's boycott > >Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 16:25:59 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 5/2/06 1:41:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >Well my gardener and crew came yesterday but then not everyone who is > >Latino is illegal. The local Mexican takeout was open. Same thing. > >The housekeeper I used to have was Latino but born and raised in Los > >Angeles. She even had non-latinos on her crew. > > > > > > > >Quite frankly I don't have anything against people coming across the > >boarder > >for work if it can be done orderly and legally. In fact I would like a > >system set up where we can have guest workers and the government of Mexico > >pays > >for their insurance, medical/legal, while they are here. But until > >something > >like that can be negotiated I would also like to see the Great Wall of the > >Southern Border built to stop the illegal flow. > > _ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp? cid=3963 > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/2/06 1:41:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Well my gardener and crew came yesterday but then not everyone who is > Latino is illegal. The local Mexican takeout was open. Same thing. > The housekeeper I used to have was Latino but born and raised in Los > Angeles. She even had non-latinos on her crew. > > > > Quite frankly I don't have anything against people coming across the boarder > for work if it can be done orderly and legally. In fact I would like a > system set up where we can have guest workers and the government of Mexico pays > for their insurance, medical/legal, while they are here. But until something > like that can be negotiated I would also like to see the Great Wall of the > Southern Border built to stop the illegal flow. > Not me. I am on the sidelines cheering the illegals on. The more, the merrier, as far as I'm concerned. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I heard that 50% of the Cuban population survive on Prostitution.?? I don't think it's that high. The ironic thing is that Cuba survived for years not on the success of the communist system but on the subsidy by the Soviet Union of about US$10 billion/year. Then when communism fell and the subsidies stopped, Cuba went into a serious downward spiral where alot of people starved, etc. What pulled them out? Capitalism: 1) alot of investment by Germans, Spanish, and Canadians and a big push for tourism; and 2) more than anything, the U.S. Dollar which Castro then allowed to be brought into Cuba by Cubans from their Miami relatives. So, ironically, the only reason this socialist "paradise" even remotely survived was because of capitalism! > > Sir, McGurk, Have you seen Steven Speilberg's movie "Amistad", Yes, I have. > Which is a true story about African Slavery.! ...but may not be a true story of Cinque, the African Slave who revolted on the ship. One story I heard is that once Cinque was freed (after the trial depicted in the film), he returned to Africa and became quite a successful entrepreneur. And guess which field of endeavor he became successful in? Cinque became a slave-trader! > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 16:05:12 EDT > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie > > > Well I'm sure what many would find to be a hell hole would be quite comfy for others, at least for a little while. I'm just not comfortable with being rationed the bare necessities of life, like food. > > > - > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpion-land wins!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > - > --- > "Middle-aged, white Americans are much sicker than their > counterparts in England, > > > ...The English > > have a higher rate of heavy drinking," > > ** > > Well, that explains it then -- alcohol is an excellent preservative, > and the Brits have simply pickled themselves into better health than > the less-dipsomaniac Yanks (with their dried-out Prez as a role model). +++ With the diet the people in this age group have been consuming on an average, they could be called walking hazardous materials containers. The research people are puzzled? - their brain damage is just another result. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Alex Stanley wrote: > > > > the joys of the relative have not returned to the > > overshadowing glory they used to be. Erotically, I'm still dead. > > Enjoyment of food returned only a little bit. Gazing with Waking Down > > teachers used to be experientially delicious, and now it is flat. > > Basically, I'm bored stiff and this body feels like a prison. > > I had a period when life had nothing to offer. Human > beings seemed like little more than shit factories. > After three months, I grew tired of it. I reaffirmed > my belief that life is founded in bliss. I subscribed > to Daily Word and read its affirmations. Life regained > its sparkle because I willed it to. But first I had to > decide the alternative was too tiresome. > > Our experiences undoubtedly spring from different > causes and call for different responses, but that's my > story. I wish you the best of luck. > snip +++ Hey Alex, wish I could have a little of the boredom as I have a serious shortage- haven't had any in the last 50 years. Would you have some time on the weekend to debate on what computer equipment to buy as I am needing to upgrade. It looks like you have quite a bit of expierience with the subject and would be a great help. thanks, N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
The online edition of the Marshalltown, Iowa, newspaper didn't mention the local impact on businesses, but did report 27% of the students absent from school. With a fifth to a quarter of the town recently arrived from Mexico, it'll show up if they skip work. http://www.timesrepublican.com/ A Day Without Immigrants: School hit hard with high number of students absent By KEN BLACK The event called "A Day Without Immigrants," which took place Monday, hit the Marshalltown Community School District hard, with 27 percent of the student population, district wide, absent. MCSD spokesperson Donna Walker confirmed that 1,357 students were reported absent between all the schools. The number is significantly higher than what the district would experience on a normal day, she said. Though Walker said she could not officially state a reason for the high number of absences, students staying home from school is a part of the "Day Without Immigrants" campaign. --- MDixon6569 wrote: > > I watched the same report on NBC followed by their affiliate in Houston for > local coverage, Both were very positive for the Illegal cause and both were > able to "cherry pick" a business or two where the owners either shut down or a > large percentage of workers failed to show up. But only an estimated 1 > million illegal workers actually went on strike and demonstrated nation wide. > Evidently the other 11 million either worked or just took the day off. It didn't > seem to have the effect the organizers hoped for, shutting down cities and > striking fear into the hearts of American business owners. It appears to me the > businesses they hurt, if any, were mainly business that served the Hispanic > community. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpion-land wins!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - --- "Middle-aged, white Americans are much sicker than their counterparts in England, > ...The English > have a higher rate of heavy drinking," ** Well, that explains it then -- alcohol is an excellent preservative, and the Brits have simply pickled themselves into better health than the less-dipsomaniac Yanks (with their dried-out Prez as a role model). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Building a World Class Economy and Culture for the Future
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sobering. World class educational system to build and sustain a world > class economy and culture for the future. > > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/02/D8HBMF5O0.html > > -- > Despite the wall-to-wall coverage of the damage from Hurricane > Katrina, nearly one-third of young Americans recently polled couldn't > locate Louisiana on a map and nearly half were unable to identify > Mississippi. > > Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 fared even worse with foreign > locations: six in 10 couldn't find Iraq, according to a Roper poll > conducted for National Geographic. > > "Geographic illiteracy impacts our economic well-being, our > relationships with other nations and the environment, and isolates us > from the world," National Geographic president John Fahey said snip. +++ The many illiteracy areas would make it seem that there is a general trend - the plan is evidently working. Intelligent people who do their own thinking and, ask questions, are a problem and difficult to control. For example- look up the story on flouride... N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
In a message dated 5/2/06 11:56:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW, most of NBC Nightly News last night was devotedto the strike. Overall the coverage was quite positive.A portion of the transcript dealing specifically with thestrike aspect: I watched the same report on NBC followed by their affiliate in Houston for local coverage, Both were very positive for the Illegal cause and both were able to "cherry pick" a business or two where the owners either shut down or a large percentage of workers failed to show up. But only an estimated 1 million illegal workers actually went on strike and demonstrated nation wide. Evidently the other 11 million either worked or just took the day off. It didn't seem to have the effect the organizers hoped for, shutting down cities and striking fear into the hearts of American business owners. It appears to me the businesses they hurt, if any, were mainly business that served the Hispanic community. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] May 1st Illegal's boycott
Anthony you are such a c*nt! And a divine one at that! --- Anthony Sumner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You, like the other European descendants who think > this is your land are > quite narrow minded and complete fools! For > starters we can get that war > criminal and his cronies out of the White House and > then get some one with > intelligence and wisdom in the White House to work > with the Mexican gov't > and get this immigration issue resolve and on to the > next pressing issue(s) > that confront the whole of humanity. > > Never forget what MMY said, "Peace on Earth will be > Powerful, when Power on > Earth will be Peaceful". Right now as I seen it, > the power of ego > dominates, at least on the geopolitical landscape of > our planet. Which > unfortunately affects almost all of us. Thank > Mother Divine for > Incarnating and hopefully soon this nightmare called > the bush administration > will be over soon. > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] May 1st Illegal's > boycott > >Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 16:25:59 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 5/2/06 1:41:12 P.M. Central > Daylight Time, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > >Well my gardener and crew came yesterday but then > not everyone who is > >Latino is illegal. The local Mexican takeout was > open. Same thing. > >The housekeeper I used to have was Latino but born > and raised in Los > >Angeles. She even had non-latinos on her crew. > > > > > > > >Quite frankly I don't have anything against people > coming across the > >boarder > >for work if it can be done orderly and legally. In > fact I would like a > >system set up where we can have guest workers and > the government of Mexico > >pays > >for their insurance, medical/legal, while they are > here. But until > >something > >like that can be negotiated I would also like to > see the Great Wall of the > >Southern Border built to stop the illegal flow. > > _ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer > virus scan from McAfee® > Security. > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Having lived in south florida for 13 years and having > gone to graduate school with many second generation > Cubans who fled Fidel's revolution and having > professors who taught in cuba before and after the > revolution I have learned quite a bit about Che and > Fidel and their revolution. I am in full agreement > with Mr. Fontova. Fidel ruined that country. > * Low consciousness ruined Cuba, which was so weak and stupid that Castro, with an army of only 300 (versus Batista's army of 10,000 looking for him), was able to take over the country: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/COLDcastroF.htm If the people of Nepal had embraced TM and developed more expanded awareness, then they would not now be faced with a threat from Maoist rebels who want to introduce the chaos and brutality of Communism. Rebel leaders, or any leaders for that matter, are just a function of low consciousness in the nation, which is why the USA is stuck with Dumbya and the people of Cuba also have a moron for leader. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] May 1st Illegal's boycott
on 5/2/06 3:51 PM, Anthony Sumner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank Mother Divine for > Incarnating Care to elaborate on this? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] May 1st Illegal's boycott
You, like the other European descendants who think this is your land are quite narrow minded and complete fools! For starters we can get that war criminal and his cronies out of the White House and then get some one with intelligence and wisdom in the White House to work with the Mexican gov't and get this immigration issue resolve and on to the next pressing issue(s) that confront the whole of humanity. Never forget what MMY said, "Peace on Earth will be Powerful, when Power on Earth will be Peaceful". Right now as I seen it, the power of ego dominates, at least on the geopolitical landscape of our planet. Which unfortunately affects almost all of us. Thank Mother Divine for Incarnating and hopefully soon this nightmare called the bush administration will be over soon. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] May 1st Illegal's boycott >Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 16:25:59 EDT > > >In a message dated 5/2/06 1:41:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Well my gardener and crew came yesterday but then not everyone who is >Latino is illegal. The local Mexican takeout was open. Same thing. >The housekeeper I used to have was Latino but born and raised in Los >Angeles. She even had non-latinos on her crew. > > > >Quite frankly I don't have anything against people coming across the >boarder >for work if it can be done orderly and legally. In fact I would like a >system set up where we can have guest workers and the government of Mexico >pays >for their insurance, medical/legal, while they are here. But until >something >like that can be negotiated I would also like to see the Great Wall of the >Southern Border built to stop the illegal flow. _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpion-land wins!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- -- > Study Shows Americans Sicker Than English > > By CARLA K. JOHNSON and MIKE STOBBE, Associated Press Writer > > CHICAGO - Middle-aged, white Americans are much sicker than their > counterparts in England, startling new research shows, despite U.S. health > care spending per person that's more than double what England spends What you boys and girls need is a Fatwa. Apart from Wayne Rooney's broken fourth metatarsal, which has lunched a real possibility of success in the football World Cup, things have gone well for us. Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpion-land wins!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- -- > Study Shows Americans Sicker Than English > > By CARLA K. JOHNSON and MIKE STOBBE, Associated Press Writer > > CHICAGO - Middle-aged, white Americans are much sicker than their > counterparts in England, startling new research shows, despite U.S. health > care spending per person that's more than double what England spends What you boys and girls need is a Fatwa. Apart from Wayne Rooney's broken fourth metatarsal, which has lunched a real possibility of success in the football World Cup, things have gone well for us. Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] May 1st Illegal's boycott
In a message dated 5/2/06 1:41:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well my gardener and crew came yesterday but then not everyone who is Latino is illegal. The local Mexican takeout was open. Same thing. The housekeeper I used to have was Latino but born and raised in Los Angeles. She even had non-latinos on her crew. Quite frankly I don't have anything against people coming across the boarder for work if it can be done orderly and legally. In fact I would like a system set up where we can have guest workers and the government of Mexico pays for their insurance, medical/legal, while they are here. But until something like that can be negotiated I would also like to see the Great Wall of the Southern Border built to stop the illegal flow. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
I heard that 50% of the Cuban population survive on Prostitution.?? Sir, McGurk, Have you seen Steven Speilberg's movie "Amistad", Which is a true story about African Slavery.! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 16:05:12 EDTSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie Well I'm sure what many would find to be a hell hole would be quite comfy for others, at least for a little while. I'm just not comfortable with being rationed the bare necessities of life, like food. Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
In a message dated 5/2/06 12:09:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW, the Democrats/liberals I know are well aware ofCuba's problems and certainly don't consider it a"paradise" of any kind. On the other hand, they don'tthink it's *quite* such a hellhole as it is portrayedby the right wing. Well I'm sure what many would find to be a hell hole would be quite comfy for others, at least for a little while. I'm just not comfortable with being rationed the bare necessities of life, like food. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Reply to Hindu Editor - From N.S.Rajaram
May 2, 2006 Editor The Hindu INDUS SIGNS IN THE SOUTH Sir: The discovery of a stone axe with signs found on the Indus Valley seals is certainly significant, but we need to exercise caution and not jump to hasty conclusions. To begin with similar signs have been found in caves in Kodumalai in Tamil Nadu and in Anakodai in Jaffna (Sri Lanka). Mahadevan's claim that the language of the Indus Valley was Dravidian because he reads a Tamil sounding word (Murukan) in these four signs is far fetched. It is his opinion only that is not supported by any methodology. One can similarly claim that Ashoka's Brahmi inscriptions are in Tamil because early Tamil used a version of Brahmi. All we can say at this time is that the Indus Valley people had connectons with the south, just as they did with West Asia, where too examples of Indus writing have been found. Sincerely, N.S. Rajaram BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT Sarasvati River and the Vedic Civilization: History, science and politics by N.S. Rajaram The discovery of the Sarasvati River, lauded in the Vedas as the greatest river, and the decipherment of the 5000-year old Indus script are the two most important breakthroughs in Indian history to have taken place in recent decades. The story of Sarasvatis rediscovery in our time is also the story of the rediscovery of Vedic India. Here is a book on these epoch making developments by one who has been at the center of these developments. The book shows unequivocally Harappan civilization was Vedic. Harappan archaeology represents the material remains of the culture and civilization described in the Vedic literature, and flourished in the same geographic regions. In the present book, N.S. Rajaram, a scientist as well as historian, marshals evidence from a wide range of sources, from archaeology and astronomy to the newly deciphered Indus seals, to shed light on the origins and the achievements of probably the most important civilization in world history. He goes beyond current theories and highlights important facts about natural history and population genetics that point to climate changes in Southeast Asia and the coastal regions rather than invasions from Central Asia or Eurasia as holding the keys to understanding the origins of the Vedic civilization. In the process he settles important questions like the Aryan invasion and the Harappan horse by exposing the political currents and the personalities that gave rise to the brand of history imposed on the children of India by colonial authorities and their present day followers. To place it in the historical context, the book includes a summary of the current state of these politically motivated moves, including the recent controversy over textbooks used in California schools. Contents Foreword by David Frawley Preface: Science in the service of history 1. Introduction: Science and belief 2. Vedic Sarasvati: River lost and found 3. Cobwebs of colonialism: The Aryan problem 4. History and politics: Subversion of scholarship 5. Vedic people: Image of the ocean 6. The language puzzle: India and Europe 7. Vedic Age: On the banks of the Sarasvati 8. Birth of writing: Harappan language and script 9. Beyond the invasion: Looking south and east Epilogue: History is always written wrong Supplement I: The current state of Aryan theories Supplement II: Science in Ancient India Supplement III: Date of the Mahabharata War Bibliography Index About the author Dr. Navaratna S. Rajaram is a mathematician, linguist and historian who after a twenty-year career as an academic and industrial researcher in the United States turned his attention to history, in which he has several notable achievements. He collaborated with the renowned Vedic scholar Dr. Natwar Jha on the decipherment of the 5000 year old Indus script leading to their epoch making work The Deciphered Indus Script. In May 1999, Rajaram deciphered the newly discovered sample of what has been called the worlds oldest writing, showing it to be related to the Rigveda. Most recently, by a detailed study of human population genetics, he has shown that the people of India are not recent immigrants but have lived in the region for tens of thousands of years. He sees history as an extension of natural history rather than as a field for political and social theories. Publisher: Aditya Prakashan, New Delhi; Availability: June 2006 How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In > > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > TorguoiseB writes: snipped > > > > I sat there trying to not have as much fun with the > > > > day as I knew I was capable of having, and then I > > > > caught myself doing it. The moment I did, I was > > > > able to laugh at myself. And through my laughter, > > > > I found my body saying "Yes." Out loud. Weirdest > > > > damned thing. > > > > > > > > Everything changed. Background flipflopped into > > > > foreground and the witnessing, a moment before > > > > unnoticed, moved front and center and reasserted > > > > its Self again. And all it took was getting to > > > > "Yes." > > > > > > > > I'm sure it'll pass...all things do...but it's > > > > neat while it lasts. Life's cool sometimes, yes? > > > > > > > > Tom T: > > > > Very astute observations. Reminds me of Patanjali Chapter 3 > > > > Vs 54: Knowledge born of the finest discrimination takes us to > > the > > > > farthest shore. > > > > It is intuitive, omniscient and beyond all divisions of time and > > space. > > > > Vs 55: And when the translucent intellect is as pure as the Self, > > > > there is Enlightenment. > > > > > > > > It is the Self knowing the Self but there is the working of the > > > > intellect that makes the final and finest discrimination. > > > > > > Actually the above quote is about viveka-khyati --an important > > experience and > > > discrimination which can continue for quite a while, but alas is > > not liberation--athough > > > that is the next chapter (of the YS). It *is* often confused with > > liberation. > > > > Actually, your statement is a misunderstanding of the simultaneous > > realities, of, on the one hand, our continuous experience of ever > > expanding growth and knowledge, and on the other hand, the > > unmistakable experience and truth of liberation. > > > > Those that experience liberation know it to be what it is. I > > particularly liked Alex's description of it as the end of war with > > ourselves. Many, many other descriptions are out there, so it is > > pointless for me to go any further describing such a state. > > Just to clarify, I was not talking about war with myself in the > context of any sort of spiritual woo-woo. I was referring to war in > the sense of rejection of my individual humanness, specifically, how I > show up as a sexual being. I.e., mundane self-loathing. ...and the difference between that and spiritual woo-woo is what? One informs the other... > But, yes, the state I find myself in now is definitely what I would > call liberation. I would describe it as free-floating in now. On the > other hand, it seems to be making life an even bigger challenge. I'd > always been very much enamored of relative existence, but since the > dark night, the joys of the relative have not returned to the > overshadowing glory they used to be. Erotically, I'm still dead. > Enjoyment of food returned only a little bit. Gazing with Waking Down > teachers used to be experientially delicious, and now it is flat. > Basically, I'm bored stiff and this body feels like a prison. > > I guess this is where the "continuously finding and discovering more > and more about our Selves" comes in. > > sigh > Maybe you are a little lost in old habits. Just find some new stuff to do, or revisit some old stuff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > > Yes, it looks like the impact to the criminals who employ all of the > > illegal immigrants were barely affected. Too bad. > > Yes, Great post. Thank you. Important issue. > > You are probably like me and don't just spout empty slogans but put > action behind your beliefs. I find its so hypocritical of whiny slogan > throwers to want to throw in jail all those criminals who employ all > the illegal immigrants -- and then go and buy and use products made > by the companies of these crimnals. Like me, I am sure you don't do > such a hypocrital thing. > > I tried to find a house or apartment that was criminal hiring of > illegal immigrant free. Sadly, I couldn't. So I pitched a tent in the > forest until I found out that the damned manufacturer and retailer of > the tent criminally used illegal aliens in thier businesses. So I > dichted the tent. I started to make a lean-too with a hatchet, cutting > down some smaller trees and shrubs, but damn, again, found out those > criminal retailers who sell the hatchet also criminally hire illegal > aliens. So I am now using my barfe hands. Its hard, but at least Iam > not supporting those business criminals. At least I am free of > hypocracy. Though I am fading a bit just eating blackberries I saved > up from last summer. And I am sill healing from the mosquito bites > from last summer when I started going naked. And still suffering from > this winter's frostbite. But its worth it, not to be a empty-slogan > spouting hypocrite. > > How are you coping with your efforts to be hypoctite-free and not > support any criminal businesses and retailers who hire illegal aliens? > Ha-Ha! Well said. Really well- I'm pretty much OK with all of it- it just seems that what I hear most about is the illegals here, and next to nothing about how they are able to stay here. I'd like to see any legislation enacted address both the illegals and the law breakers who employ them. What am I going to do about it? Think the thought. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- Alex Stanley wrote: > > the joys of the relative have not returned to the > overshadowing glory they used to be. Erotically, I'm still dead. > Enjoyment of food returned only a little bit. Gazing with Waking Down > teachers used to be experientially delicious, and now it is flat. > Basically, I'm bored stiff and this body feels like a prison. I had a period when life had nothing to offer. Human beings seemed like little more than shit factories. After three months, I grew tired of it. I reaffirmed my belief that life is founded in bliss. I subscribed to Daily Word and read its affirmations. Life regained its sparkle because I willed it to. But first I had to decide the alternative was too tiresome. Our experiences undoubtedly spring from different causes and call for different responses, but that's my story. I wish you the best of luck. Daily Word Tuesday, May 2, 2006 Completion My faith in God is full and complete. A career change, a move to a new home, a retirement, or a graduation may signal the end of one stage of life and the beginning of another. Before embarking on the new course my life is taking, I take a moment to reflect on the completion of this phase and on God's spirit that brought me to this turning point. I give thanks for the spirit of God that has been my guide and inspiration. I release the past, forgive where necessary, and rest in the awareness of God's spirit within me. It may seem that the experiences of life test how strong my faith is, but it is my assurance of God's loving support that grows stronger each day. Bringing a segment of life to its completion ensures that I am ready for the next phase. My faith is full and complete. "You know that the testing of your faith produces endurance; and let endurance have its full effect, so that you may be mature and complete, lacking in nothing."James 1:3-4 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish
authfriend wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I'm beginning to wonder if the planets are nothing but markers >>anyway for some yet undiscovered circadian rhythms. >> >> > >My guess: Any sufficiently complex system of >correspondences, such as astrology (any flavor), works >as a tool for focusing the intuition--i.e., collecting >and integrating all one's little intuitional inputs >into a coherent whole so that a prediction can be >generated from it. The system's correspondences >themselves don't "mean" anything at all, they're just a >framework to hang the intuition on and organize what >the intuition knows. > >Tea leaves, in other words, could work just as well >as astrology for anyone with a highly developed >intuition. > > > > Intuition is very definitely a part of jyotish but some systems will work very well in a mechanical sense too. Something is going on and it doesn't have so much to do with intuition other than some folks can discern it with intuition. Hart DeFouw, a very popular Jyotish teacher says Jyotish is just a form of "divination" like numerology, palmistry, etc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] May 1st Illegal's boycott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Was anybody on the list affected by the illegal's boycott yesterday? I >personally noticed far less traffic on the road, almost like a Sunday morning >and noticed one Barbeque business that employees nearly 100% Hispanics closed. >Other than that, the day was rather uneventful here in Tomball Texas, (twenty >miles northwest of Houston). > > > Well my gardener and crew came yesterday but then not everyone who is Latino is illegal. The local Mexican takeout was open. Same thing. The housekeeper I used to have was Latino but born and raised in Los Angeles. She even had non-latinos on her crew. The whole issue is very complicated. I heard a caller to the Thom Hartmann show this morning decrying how everyone wants too much money even for unskilled jobs anymore. She said she wanted to hire someone to wash her windows and one contractor quoted $200 and she wound up hiring a Latino for $50. Thom argued that everyone should be able to have a good wage. I usually agree with him but he doesn't see the bigger picture in this case. Washing windows is unskilled labor. It shouldn't cost $200 unless you have a big mansion and we can assume this lady probably has a modest house. On the other end of the scale a couple year's back my dentist informed he would no longer accept my dental insurance because it didn't pay enough. I almost asked, "what did you do, buy one of those monster homes being built down the road?" So I dropped him and he was a good dentist with good technicians but no way was I going to be taken to the cleaners for a simple cleaning (my insurance will pay for two of those a year). So it's the "screw me, screw you blues" here in Skamerica. I guess I need to raise all my rates too but I know if I do someone will underbid me. Maybe we should just erase the blackboard and start all over again. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm beginning to wonder if the planets are nothing but markers > anyway for some yet undiscovered circadian rhythms. My guess: Any sufficiently complex system of correspondences, such as astrology (any flavor), works as a tool for focusing the intuition--i.e., collecting and integrating all one's little intuitional inputs into a coherent whole so that a prediction can be generated from it. The system's correspondences themselves don't "mean" anything at all, they're just a framework to hang the intuition on and organize what the intuition knows. Tea leaves, in other words, could work just as well as astrology for anyone with a highly developed intuition. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish
markmeredith2002 wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > >>on 5/2/06 9:58 AM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> >>>From a friend: >>> >>>Hi Rick, >>> >>>It seems that people getting jyotish consultations >>>from International are now being told they are in >>>different dasas to their previoyus readings. The >>>reason given is that it is a new system for Sat Yuga. >>>No-one gets to see the charts though so it is unknown >>>what the system is. Any of your friends know about >>>it? >>> >>>Regards >>> >>>R >>> >>> >>A jyotish friend responded on the side: >> >>"the calculation is called shristi samvatsar and is based on a >>calculation from the surya siddhanta. >> >> > >The calculation is called "time for new improved product roll-out" >since the old product is no longer selling. > > > Scam-yuga? I'll have to look up that calculation. Jyotishis often look for all kinds of new rules when their predictions don't work out. If you look at predictions in the abstract they tend to be pretty good indicators of what themes will be prevailing in your life. But we seem to have these fools that think dashas are black and white and your every move can be determined from the horoscope. I'm beginning to wonder if the planets are nothing but markers anyway for some yet undiscovered circadian rhythms. The ancients merely used the positions of the planets to track the cycles. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" > wrote: > > > > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > > wrote: > > > > > > TorguoiseB writes: snipped > > > I sat there trying to not have as much fun with the > > > day as I knew I was capable of having, and then I > > > caught myself doing it. The moment I did, I was > > > able to laugh at myself. And through my laughter, > > > I found my body saying "Yes." Out loud. Weirdest > > > damned thing. > > > > > > Everything changed. Background flipflopped into > > > foreground and the witnessing, a moment before > > > unnoticed, moved front and center and reasserted > > > its Self again. And all it took was getting to > > > "Yes." > > > > > > I'm sure it'll pass...all things do...but it's > > > neat while it lasts. Life's cool sometimes, yes? > > > > > > Tom T: > > > Very astute observations. Reminds me of Patanjali Chapter 3 > > > Vs 54: Knowledge born of the finest discrimination takes us to > the > > > farthest shore. > > > It is intuitive, omniscient and beyond all divisions of time and > space. > > > Vs 55: And when the translucent intellect is as pure as the Self, > > > there is Enlightenment. > > > > > > It is the Self knowing the Self but there is the working of the > > > intellect that makes the final and finest discrimination. > > > > Actually the above quote is about viveka-khyati --an important > experience and > > discrimination which can continue for quite a while, but alas is > not liberation--athough > > that is the next chapter (of the YS). It *is* often confused with > liberation. > > Actually, your statement is a misunderstanding of the simultaneous > realities, of, on the one hand, our continuous experience of ever > expanding growth and knowledge, and on the other hand, the > unmistakable experience and truth of liberation. > > Those that experience liberation know it to be what it is. I > particularly liked Alex's description of it as the end of war with > ourselves. Many, many other descriptions are out there, so it is > pointless for me to go any further describing such a state. Just to clarify, I was not talking about war with myself in the context of any sort of spiritual woo-woo. I was referring to war in the sense of rejection of my individual humanness, specifically, how I show up as a sexual being. I.e., mundane self-loathing. But, yes, the state I find myself in now is definitely what I would call liberation. I would describe it as free-floating in now. On the other hand, it seems to be making life an even bigger challenge. I'd always been very much enamored of relative existence, but since the dark night, the joys of the relative have not returned to the overshadowing glory they used to be. Erotically, I'm still dead. Enjoyment of food returned only a little bit. Gazing with Waking Down teachers used to be experientially delicious, and now it is flat. Basically, I'm bored stiff and this body feels like a prison. I guess this is where the "continuously finding and discovering more and more about our Selves" comes in. sigh To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, it looks like the impact to the criminals who employ all of the > illegal immigrants were barely affected. Too bad. Yes, Great post. Thank you. Important issue. You are probably like me and don't just spout empty slogans but put action behind your beliefs. I find its so hypocritical of whiny slogan throwers to want to throw in jail all those criminals who employ all the illegal immigrants -- and then go and buy and use products made by the companies of these crimnals. Like me, I am sure you don't do such a hypocrital thing. I tried to find a house or apartment that was criminal hiring of illegal immigrant free. Sadly, I couldn't. So I pitched a tent in the forest until I found out that the damned manufacturer and retailer of the tent criminally used illegal aliens in thier businesses. So I dichted the tent. I started to make a lean-too with a hatchet, cutting down some smaller trees and shrubs, but damn, again, found out those criminal retailers who sell the hatchet also criminally hire illegal aliens. So I am now using my barfe hands. Its hard, but at least Iam not supporting those business criminals. At least I am free of hypocracy. Though I am fading a bit just eating blackberries I saved up from last summer. And I am sill healing from the mosquito bites from last summer when I started going naked. And still suffering from this winter's frostbite. But its worth it, not to be a empty-slogan spouting hypocrite. How are you coping with your efforts to be hypoctite-free and not support any criminal businesses and retailers who hire illegal aliens? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/2/06 11:38:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Peter, do you think that most Americans -- other than Cuban- > Americans -- have the wrong impression about Cuba and Castro? That > is, that it is some sort of socialist paradise? > > Shemp I think most democrats/liberals simply envy the "free health > care" and "free college education". Thus it's a socialist workers > paradise. FWIW, the Democrats/liberals I know are well aware of Cuba's problems and certainly don't consider it a "paradise" of any kind. On the other hand, they don't think it's *quite* such a hellhole as it is portrayed by the right wing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Having lived in south florida for 13 years and > having > > gone to graduate school with many second > generation > > Cubans who fled Fidel's revolution and having > > professors who taught in cuba before and after the > > revolution I have learned quite a bit about Che > and > > Fidel and their revolution. I am in full agreement > > with Mr. Fontova. Fidel ruined that country. > > > > Peter, do you think that most Americans -- other > than Cuban- > Americans -- have the wrong impression about Cuba > and Castro? That > is, that it is some sort of socialist paradise? No, of course not. However, within some liberal or, more accurately, radical circles, the revolution in Cuba is viewed as some sort of wonderful change that brought about the "liberation" of the masses. But I have to admit that I only found this perspective in my socialist sister and her friends, and in graduate school in the late 70's and early 80's at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Marxism, socialism like anything else can look great on paper, but the actual practice can get real messy and corrupt as it did in Cuba. > > > > > > > > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Movie Critics Aghast at Andy Garcia's The Lost > City > > > by Humberto Fontova > > > > > > > > > Andy Garcia blew it big-time with his movie The > Lost > > > City. He blew > > > it with the mainstream critics that is. Almost > > > unanimously, they're > > > ripping a movie 16 years in the making. In this > > > engaging drama of a > > > middle-class Cuban family crumbling during free > > > Havana's last days, > > > in which he both directs and stars, Garcia > insisted > > > on depicting > > > some historical truth about Cuba � a grotesque > and > > > unforgivable > > > blunder in his industry. He's now paying the > price. > > > > > > Earlier, many film festivals refused to screen > it. > > > Now many Latin > > > American countries refuse to show it. The film's > > > offenses are many > > > and varied. Most unforgivable of all, Che > Guevara is > > > shown killing > > > people in cold blood. Who ever heard of such > > > nonsense? And just > > > where does this uppity Andy Garcia get the > > > effrontery to portray > > > such things? The man obviously doesn't know his > > > place. > > > > > > And just where did Garcia get this preposterous > > > notion of pre-Castro > > > Cuba as a relatively prosperous but politically > > > troubled place, they > > > ask? All the Cubans he portrays seem middle > class? > > > Where in his > > > movie is the tsunami of stooped and starving > > > peasants that carried > > > Fidel and Che into Havana on it's crest, they > ask? > > > Where's all those > > > diseased and illiterate laborers and peasants my > > > professors, Dan > > > Rather, CNN and Oliver Stone told me about, ask > the > > > critics? > > > > > > Garcia � that cinematic bomb-thrower � has > > seriously > > > jolted the > > > Mainstream Media's fantasies and hallucinations > of > > > pre-Castro Cuba, > > > of Che, of Fidel, and of Cubans in general. In > > > consequence, the > > > critics are unnerved and disoriented. Their > > > annoyance and scorn is > > > spewing forth in review after review. > > > > > > Garcia blew it. If only his characters had > spoken > > > with accents like > > > John Belushi's as a Saturday Night Live Killer > Bee! > > > If only they'd > > > dressed like The Three Amigos! If only they'd > > > behaved like Cheech > > > and Chong! If only they'd mimicked the > mannerisms > > > and gait of > > > Freddie Prinze in Chico and the Man! If only the > > > women had piled a > > > roadside fruit stand on their head like Carmen > > > Miranda in Road to > > > Rio! If only the cast had looked like the little > guy > > > who handles my > > > luggage when I visit Cancun! Or the guys who do > my > > > lawn! Everybody > > > knows that's what Hispanics look like! > > > > > > If only masses of Cubans had been shown toiling > in > > > salt mines like > > > Spartacus, or picking crops like Tom Joad or > getting > > > lashed by a > > > vicious landlord like Kunta Kinte, or hustling > for a > > > living like > > > Ratso Rizzo! > > > > > > "In a movie about the Cuban revolution, we > almost > > > never see any of > > > the working poor for whom the revolution was > > > supposedly > > > fought,"sniffs Peter Reiner in The Christian > Science > > > Monitor. The > > > Lost City misses historical complexity." > > > > > > Actually what's missing is Mr. Reiner's > historical > > > knowledge. Andy > > > Garcia and screenwriter Guillermo Cabrera > Infante > > > knew full well > > > that "the working poor" had no role in the stage > of > > > the Cuban > > > Revolution shown in the movie. The Anti-Batista > > > rebellion was led > > > and staffed overwhelmi
[FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > Was anybody on the list affected by the illegal's boycott > yesterday? I > > personally noticed far less traffic on the road, almost like a > Sunday morning > > and noticed one Barbeque business that employees nearly 100% > Hispanics closed. > > Other than that, the day was rather uneventful here in Tomball > Texas, (twenty > > miles northwest of Houston). > > > Yes, it looks like the impact to the criminals who employ all of > the illegal immigrants were barely affected. Too bad. FWIW, most of NBC Nightly News last night was devoted to the strike. Overall the coverage was quite positive. A portion of the transcript dealing specifically with the strike aspect: (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) DON TEAGUE, NBC CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): At workplaces across the nation, the financial cost of A Day Without Immigrants hit home. For Malone Food Stores, a small grocery chain in Dallas, closing today meant $300,000 in lost sales. RICK GOMEZ, MALONE FOOD STORES: It's a little bit of a financial bite. TEAGUE: But Rick Gomez says it's a bite his business is willing to take. Ninety-five percent of his workforce, and most of his customers, are Hispanic. GOMEZ: It is vital, in our opinion, to support the customers, and the employees, and their extended families. TEAGUE: Gomez chose to shut down. But in Florida, vegetable farmer Arturo de Leon had no choice, and no workers to pick crops. ARTURO DE LEON, VEGETABLE FARMER: And without them, we can't do it. We just can't do it. TEAGUE (on camera): Immigrants stayed away from thousands of job sites nationwide. Here in Dallas, only a handful of workers even showed up at this construction site. (voice-over): But not all immigrants agree with the protests. Just across the street, Nizar Ali and his employees are on the job. NIZAR ALI: We are open today for the business. TEAGUE: Proving the point that there's a legal process for immigrating, and working. ALI: Yes, you have to work, otherwise you can't get money, you know. TEAGUE: Still, this much is certain. Millions of immigrants flexed their muscle today. At ports in Southern California, 90 percent of the truckers needed to move cargo didn't show up. For driver Jose Munoz, mowing his lawn instead of working, those idle big rigs are a warning. JOSE MUNOZ, TRUCKER: It's going to be just one day, and if things don't change or nothing, it'll probably be more days. TEAGUE: Days that immigrant workers claim American businesses can't afford. Don Teague, NBC News, Dallas. (END VIDEOTAPE) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From a friend: > > Hi Rick, > > It seems that people getting jyotish consultations > from International are now being told they are in > different dasas to their previoyus readings. The > reason given is that it is a new system for Sat Yuga. > No-one gets to see the charts though so it is unknown > what the system is. Any of your friends know about > it? > > Regards > > R I've got the moon in the fourth house and virgo rising, does this news mean I'm going to stop thinking astrology is a load of bollocks? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My time on FFL has been a real shock to me in > some ways as I've come to realize how many people > are so locked into the TM paradigms that they have > trouble even *conceiving* of others. Perhaps you believe that because they reject your horribly distorted caricature of the TM paradigm. There are > notable exceptions, and they are pleasant when I > encounter them, but in general I stand by what I > said earlier today. > > Sometimes the Fundamentalist words and tone used > here make it seem as if the posters have actually > come to view effort or the use of intention as some > kind of sin. It's fascinating...there are times > when reading FFL is like reading stuff written by > the tightasses who wrote the Old Testament. :-) > > I guess that falls into the "unpleasant" category > again, but there you jolly well are, aren't you? > If you don't like what I have to say, might I > recommend killfiles or the judicious use of the > NEXT key? You can recommend it all you want. Do you have some kind of problem with people disagreeing with what you say? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
In a message dated 5/2/06 11:38:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peter, do you think that most Americans -- other than Cuban-Americans -- have the wrong impression about Cuba and Castro? That is, that it is some sort of socialist paradise? Shemp I think most democrats/liberals simply envy the "free health care" and "free college education". Thus it's a socialist workers paradise. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Friday Indian Lunch-this Friday May 5
on 5/2/06 11:39 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What, no Masala Dosa? Different menu each week. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > So, once again, the paradox confronts us, to give ourselves over > to > > > intention, and surrender, both simultaneously. This is where > faith > > > and discrimination come in. > > > > Yes, it's paradoxical, faith and discrimination working > > together rather than against each other. > > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with carrying forth our intention in order > > > to reach the ultimate Goal. Otherwise how can exhaustion of the > > > will occur, paving the way for true and final acceptance of our > > > Selves, our true nature? > > > > > > Your strong advocacy for your position, to the exclusion of the > > > other is a good thing, using FFL to work out the balance of the > > > intellect. Keep it up! > > > > His strong advocacy would, IMHO, be ever so much better > > a thing if it weren't accomplished primarily by nastily > > trashing (his fantasy of) the alternative. > > > Its a function of the heart growing full and advocating the waking > state intellect. A temporary thing- won't last. Twelve years so far and counting... > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light up the Senate switchboard now!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >As I understand it, NYC doesn't have any Wal-Marts so, sadly, New > Yorkers are paying way more for all of the above items. I confess, I shop at Wal-Mart several times a week. I am also a small business owner, although not affected by the boxes, although I would be if I were in closer proximity. Wal-Mart absolutely does give more buying power to the average consumer. It is hard to break that addiction. What did I just see -oh yea, in turns of "countries" Wal-Mart is China's fourth biggest trading partner. lurk > > > > > > > > > If not, you take a bus or subway, or a taxi if it's not > > rush hour. Or you ride a bicycle if you don't mind the > > fumes. > > > > New Yorkers walk a lot more than folks in rural areas. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
In a message dated 5/2/06 11:31:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, it looks like the impact to the criminals who employ all of the illegal immigrants were barely affected. Too bad. From what I saw on the local news, most employers of illegals were all too happy to give them the day off if they were given sufficient notice. However I think most illegals worked. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Friday Indian Lunch-this Friday May 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > Mixed vegetable Curry (No Cabbage ) > > Does Amma recoomend against cabbage (and related vegs such as brussel > sprouts)? These vegs appear to be vatta and balance kapha and pitta -- > good for some. Cruciferous veggies (cabbage, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower) also apparently have cancer-fighting properties. Good stuff. Delectable when not over- or undercoooked. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Friday Indian Lunch-this Friday May 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Vaju Moorthy of the Amma Center makes great South Indian lunches most > Fridays, served at Morningstar Studio. In my opinion, the food is a lot > better than that at any Indian restaurant in town. Anyone is welcome. Cost > is $7. All you can eat. You have to reserve a day ahead of time by > contacting Coralie Brook (details below). If you ask, she¹ll put you on a > list and email you once a week with that week¹s menu. Here¹s her latest > announcement: > > Here is the lunch menu for this Friday (May 5) at Morningstar, catered by > Vaju Moorthy. As you see, this is very traditional South Indian food RSVP > is required! > > * Idli (soft, steamed dumpling made of rice and urad dal) > * Vada > * Sambar > * Coconut Chutney > * Mixed vegetable Curry (No Cabbage ) > * Sweet and Savoury Kozhukattai (these are traditionally served in South > India for Ganesh Chathurthi, Ganesh's birthday, which is in August) > * Plain Rice > * Chai What, no Masala Dosa? > > To attend, you must RSVP to Coralie Brook by Wednesday evening at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 472-7148. Otherwise, we will ask that you wait > until the following week and make advance reservation. That way there is > enough food for everyone who comes.* > > Thank you, everyone. > > Coralie Brook > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Light up the Senate switchboard now!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are supermarkets within a few blocks wherever you > live, at least in Manhattan. The clerks are trained in > packing your goods into bags so they're well balanced > and compact. Most people bring shopping carts, or have > their stuff delivered for a few bucks. > > There are pharmacies and banks and dry cleaners and so > on on almost every block. The main streets--the avenues-- > are crammed solid with stores and shops of all kinds, so > most of what you need is likely to be within easy walking > distance. > > Yea, I noticed the little bodegas on most every block. Boston, where I went next did not seem to have near the "flavor" of NY. lurk > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Having lived in south florida for 13 years and having > gone to graduate school with many second generation > Cubans who fled Fidel's revolution and having > professors who taught in cuba before and after the > revolution I have learned quite a bit about Che and > Fidel and their revolution. I am in full agreement > with Mr. Fontova. Fidel ruined that country. Peter, do you think that most Americans -- other than Cuban- Americans -- have the wrong impression about Cuba and Castro? That is, that it is some sort of socialist paradise? > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Movie Critics Aghast at Andy Garcia's The Lost City > > by Humberto Fontova > > > > > > Andy Garcia blew it big-time with his movie The Lost > > City. He blew > > it with the mainstream critics that is. Almost > > unanimously, they're > > ripping a movie 16 years in the making. In this > > engaging drama of a > > middle-class Cuban family crumbling during free > > Havana's last days, > > in which he both directs and stars, Garcia insisted > > on depicting > > some historical truth about Cuba � a grotesque and > > unforgivable > > blunder in his industry. He's now paying the price. > > > > Earlier, many film festivals refused to screen it. > > Now many Latin > > American countries refuse to show it. The film's > > offenses are many > > and varied. Most unforgivable of all, Che Guevara is > > shown killing > > people in cold blood. Who ever heard of such > > nonsense? And just > > where does this uppity Andy Garcia get the > > effrontery to portray > > such things? The man obviously doesn't know his > > place. > > > > And just where did Garcia get this preposterous > > notion of pre-Castro > > Cuba as a relatively prosperous but politically > > troubled place, they > > ask? All the Cubans he portrays seem middle class? > > Where in his > > movie is the tsunami of stooped and starving > > peasants that carried > > Fidel and Che into Havana on it's crest, they ask? > > Where's all those > > diseased and illiterate laborers and peasants my > > professors, Dan > > Rather, CNN and Oliver Stone told me about, ask the > > critics? > > > > Garcia � that cinematic bomb-thrower � has > seriously > > jolted the > > Mainstream Media's fantasies and hallucinations of > > pre-Castro Cuba, > > of Che, of Fidel, and of Cubans in general. In > > consequence, the > > critics are unnerved and disoriented. Their > > annoyance and scorn is > > spewing forth in review after review. > > > > Garcia blew it. If only his characters had spoken > > with accents like > > John Belushi's as a Saturday Night Live Killer Bee! > > If only they'd > > dressed like The Three Amigos! If only they'd > > behaved like Cheech > > and Chong! If only they'd mimicked the mannerisms > > and gait of > > Freddie Prinze in Chico and the Man! If only the > > women had piled a > > roadside fruit stand on their head like Carmen > > Miranda in Road to > > Rio! If only the cast had looked like the little guy > > who handles my > > luggage when I visit Cancun! Or the guys who do my > > lawn! Everybody > > knows that's what Hispanics look like! > > > > If only masses of Cubans had been shown toiling in > > salt mines like > > Spartacus, or picking crops like Tom Joad or getting > > lashed by a > > vicious landlord like Kunta Kinte, or hustling for a > > living like > > Ratso Rizzo! > > > > "In a movie about the Cuban revolution, we almost > > never see any of > > the working poor for whom the revolution was > > supposedly > > fought,"sniffs Peter Reiner in The Christian Science > > Monitor. The > > Lost City misses historical complexity." > > > > Actually what's missing is Mr. Reiner's historical > > knowledge. Andy > > Garcia and screenwriter Guillermo Cabrera Infante > > knew full well > > that "the working poor" had no role in the stage of > > the Cuban > > Revolution shown in the movie. The Anti-Batista > > rebellion was led > > and staffed overwhelmingly by Cuba's middle � and > > especially, upper � > > class. To wit: in August of 1957 Castro's rebel > > movement called for > > a "National Strike" against the Batista dictatorship > > � and > > threatened to shoot workers who reported to work. > > The "National > > Strike" was completely ignored. > > > > Another was called for April 9, 1958. And again > > Cuban workers blew a > > loud and collective raspberry at their "liberators," > > reporting to > > work en masse. > > > > "Garcia's tale bemoans the loss of easy wealth for a > > precious few," > > harrumphs Michael Atkinson in The Village Voice. > > "Poor people are > > absolutely absent; Garcia and Infante seem to have > > thought that > > peasant revolutions happen for no particular > > reason�or at least no > > reason the moneyed 1 percent should have to worry > > about." > > > > What's "absolute
[FairfieldLife] Re: May 1st Illegal's boycott
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Was anybody on the list affected by the illegal's boycott yesterday? I > personally noticed far less traffic on the road, almost like a Sunday morning > and noticed one Barbeque business that employees nearly 100% Hispanics closed. > Other than that, the day was rather uneventful here in Tomball Texas, (twenty > miles northwest of Houston). > Yes, it looks like the impact to the criminals who employ all of the illegal immigrants were barely affected. Too bad. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > wrote: > > > > TorguoiseB writes: snipped > > I sat there trying to not have as much fun with the > > day as I knew I was capable of having, and then I > > caught myself doing it. The moment I did, I was > > able to laugh at myself. And through my laughter, > > I found my body saying "Yes." Out loud. Weirdest > > damned thing. > > > > Everything changed. Background flipflopped into > > foreground and the witnessing, a moment before > > unnoticed, moved front and center and reasserted > > its Self again. And all it took was getting to > > "Yes." > > > > I'm sure it'll pass...all things do...but it's > > neat while it lasts. Life's cool sometimes, yes? > > > > Tom T: > > Very astute observations. Reminds me of Patanjali Chapter 3 > > Vs 54: Knowledge born of the finest discrimination takes us to the > > farthest shore. > > It is intuitive, omniscient and beyond all divisions of time and space. > > Vs 55: And when the translucent intellect is as pure as the Self, > > there is Enlightenment. > > > > It is the Self knowing the Self but there is the working of the > > intellect that makes the final and finest discrimination. > > Actually the above quote is about viveka-khyati --an important experience and > discrimination which can continue for quite a while, but alas is not liberation--athough > that is the next chapter (of the YS). It *is* often confused with liberation. Actually, your statement is a misunderstanding of the simultaneous realities, of, on the one hand, our continuous experience of ever expanding growth and knowledge, and on the other hand, the unmistakable experience and truth of liberation. Those that experience liberation know it to be what it is. I particularly liked Alex's description of it as the end of war with ourselves. Many, many other descriptions are out there, so it is pointless for me to go any further describing such a state. Those who experience liberation also know that as significant as the state is, there is always further knowledge, further experience, further integration occurring. I like to refer to the state of liberation as one of finding vs. seeking, a description that implies that there is infinitely more to know, once our liberation occurs. So, to truly comprehend liberation, both realities must peacefully exist in the mind at the same time, that of the silent unmoving Goal, inner freedom, and that of continuously finding and discovering more and more about our Selves. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Barry makes some interesting points about an > alternative approach to enlightenment, but his > unpleasant tone regarding the beliefs of others is > very off-putting and makes one doubt the validity > of his own "enlightenment." Just for the record, I have never claimed enlightenment. I've had a few nice experiences that I personally put into that general category of experience, but that's all I'll cop to...having had a few neat experiences. > I agree also that his presentation of the TM approach > is a caricature. In my considered opinion, it's anything but...I think it's pretty damned accurate. My time on FFL has been a real shock to me in some ways as I've come to realize how many people are so locked into the TM paradigms that they have trouble even *conceiving* of others. There are notable exceptions, and they are pleasant when I encounter them, but in general I stand by what I said earlier today. Sometimes the Fundamentalist words and tone used here make it seem as if the posters have actually come to view effort or the use of intention as some kind of sin. It's fascinating...there are times when reading FFL is like reading stuff written by the tightasses who wrote the Old Testament. :-) I guess that falls into the "unpleasant" category again, but there you jolly well are, aren't you? If you don't like what I have to say, might I recommend killfiles or the judicious use of the NEXT key? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > So, once again, the paradox confronts us, to give ourselves over to > > intention, and surrender, both simultaneously. This is where faith > > and discrimination come in. > > Yes, it's paradoxical, faith and discrimination working > together rather than against each other. > > > I wholeheartedly agree with carrying forth our intention in order > > to reach the ultimate Goal. Otherwise how can exhaustion of the > > will occur, paving the way for true and final acceptance of our > > Selves, our true nature? > > > > Your strong advocacy for your position, to the exclusion of the > > other is a good thing, using FFL to work out the balance of the > > intellect. Keep it up! > > His strong advocacy would, IMHO, be ever so much better > a thing if it weren't accomplished primarily by nastily > trashing (his fantasy of) the alternative. > Its a function of the heart growing full and advocating the waking state intellect. A temporary thing- won't last. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Friday Indian Lunch-this Friday May 5
on 5/2/06 10:37 AM, anony_sleuth_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Mixed vegetable Curry (No Cabbage ) > > Does Amma recoomend against cabbage (and related vegs such as brussel > sprouts)? These vegs appear to be vatta and balance kapha and pitta -- > good for some. No. sometimes cabbage is served. Maybe some people said they didn't like it or something. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Building a World Class Economy and Culture for the Future
Sobering. World class educational system to build and sustain a world class economy and culture for the future. http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/02/D8HBMF5O0.html -- Despite the wall-to-wall coverage of the damage from Hurricane Katrina, nearly one-third of young Americans recently polled couldn't locate Louisiana on a map and nearly half were unable to identify Mississippi. Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 fared even worse with foreign locations: six in 10 couldn't find Iraq, according to a Roper poll conducted for National Geographic. "Geographic illiteracy impacts our economic well-being, our relationships with other nations and the environment, and isolates us from the world," National Geographic president John Fahey said in announcing a program to help remedy the problem. It's hoping to enlist businesses, nonprofit groups and educators in a bid to improve geographic literacy. Planned is a five-year, multimedia campaign called My Wonderful World that will target children 8 to 17. The goal is to motivate parents and educators to expand geographic offerings in school, at home and in their communities. They will have their task cut out for them, judging by the results of the survey of 510 people interviewed in December and January. Among the findings: _ One-third of respondents couldn't pinpoint Louisiana on a map and 48 percent were unable to locate Mississippi. _ Fewer than three in 10 think it important to know the locations of countries in the news and just 14 percent believe speaking another language is a necessary skill. _ Two-thirds didn't know that the earthquake that killed 70,000 people in October 2005 occurred in Pakistan. _ Six in 10 could not find Iraq on a map of the Middle East. _ While the outsourcing of jobs to India has been a major U.S. business story, 47 percent could not find the Indian subcontinent on a map of Asia. _ While Israeli-Palestinian strife has been in the news for the entire lives of the respondents, 75 percent were unable to locate Israel on a map of the Middle East. _ Nearly three-quarters incorrectly named English as the most widely spoken native language. _ Six in 10 did not know the border between North and South Korea is the most heavily fortified in the world. Thirty percent thought the most heavily fortified border was between the United States and Mexico. Joining in the effort to improve geographic knowledge will be the 4-H, American Federation of Teachers, Asia Society, Association of American Geographers, National Basketball Association, National Council of La Raza, National PTA, Smithsonian Institution and others. "Geography exposes children and adults to diverse cultures, different ideas and the exchange of knowledge from around the world," said Anna Marie Weselak, president of the National PTA. "This campaign will help make sure our children get their geography _ so they can become familiar with other cultures during their school years and move comfortably and confidently in a global economy as adults." ___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
I agree with you here, Judy. Barry makes some interesting points about an alternative approach to enlightenment, but his unpleasant tone regarding the beliefs of others is very off-putting and makes one doubt the validity of his own "enlightenment." I agree also that his presentation of the TM approach is a caricature. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In > > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > > wrote: > > > > > > You are very right Judy in that Yes can not be intentional. > > > > Coming from a Buddhist perspective, in which intent > > and focus are very *much* a part of the realization > > process, I'd have to disagree with you, Tom. > > > > I think that the issue that some people are reacting > > to in my little cafe story is that it pushes their > > *religious* buttons, the ones they don't like > > to admit they have. They have been convinced, after > > decades of indoctrination by the TM movement and > > its Hindu underpinnings, that passivity is the *only* > > way to go in the quest for enlightenment. Don't ever > > work at anything because that would be "straining" > > or "effort" or the imposition of will, and thus > > an aspect of ego. So the "proper" attitude towards > > enlightenment is to just sit around and wait for it > > to happen on its own. > > There are two ways to address a disagreement. One is > to make a positive case for one's own perspective; the > other is to trash the other perspective. > > The disadvantage of choosing the second route is that > one can be tempted to caricature the opposing viewpoint > rather than presenting it fairly, in order to make it > easier to trash. And if one convinces oneself of the > truth of one's caricature, it makes it easier to > convince oneself of the truth of one's own > perspective without ever considering the possible > merits of the other. > > This may raise suspicions that the person doing the > trashing is deep down not so confident of his > perspective as he pretends to be, since he has to > distort the other to make it appear less valid > than his own. > > > And wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait. > > > > And if it *doesn't* happen, after decades of > > sitting around and waiting and doing what you're > > told, that's somehow "all right" because it isn't > > really "you" who has anything to do with your > > enlightenment. It's really the universe, or Natural > > Law, or God that's made the decision to leave you > > lost in the illusion of unenlightenment. > > In my experience (doing what I feel is right for > me, not "what I'm told"), I make more progress > when I take responsibility without assigning blame. > The former does not necessarily imply the latter. > I don't assume "something else" has made any > decisions about me, but by the same token, I do not > assume I am somehow "not all right" because this or > that hasn't happened yet. > > In other contexts, Barry has vigorously scorned the > "seeking" mentality that requires one to feel "not > all right" about oneself until one has "found" one's > "all-rightness." But here he seems to be claiming > the opposite. That suggests a certain degree of > confusion. > > > That's an Ok set of things to believe, I guess, > > if what you want is to never realize your enlight- > > enment. Me, I prefer the Buddhist approach, in > > which one's intent and ability to focus come into > > play and in which talents and ability other than > > waiting and hoping become part of the realization > > process. > > > > I'm not comfortable with the just-be-patient-and- > > wait approach to enlightenment, in which one is told > > over and over by the *vendor* of that approach to > > enlightenment that their UNenlightenment "isn't > > their fault." What a fuckin' lie that is. > > Hmm, I've never heard any "vendor" say that. I > suspect that notion is a function of the caricature > Barry has created to bolster his own perspective. > > > It's a lie even if you believe in the model their > > system is based on. If you believe that "stress" > > is what keeps you from being enlightened, then who > > created your stress? Well duh, you did. If you > > believe it's karma that keeps you from being > > enlightened, well who created the karma? Well > > duh, again, you did. Take some responsibility fer > > chrssakes...if you're convinced that you are not > > enlightened, YOU created that reality (or, as it > > turns out, unreality). > > Yes, duh. Again, though, taking responsibility is > not the same as blaming oneself. > > > I *know* that saying these things on a TM forum > > is going to rile people up, and make some of them > > crazy. It's absolute HERESY to a person who has drunk > > the TM Kool-Aid and believes that effortlessness is > > the *only* model that leads to transcendence and > > eventually enligh
[FairfieldLife] Re: Friday Indian Lunch-this Friday May 5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mixed vegetable Curry (No Cabbage ) Does Amma recoomend against cabbage (and related vegs such as brussel sprouts)? These vegs appear to be vatta and balance kapha and pitta -- good for some. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, once again, the paradox confronts us, to give ourselves over to > intention, and surrender, both simultaneously. This is where faith > and discrimination come in. Yes, it's paradoxical, faith and discrimination working together rather than against each other. > I wholeheartedly agree with carrying forth our intention in order > to reach the ultimate Goal. Otherwise how can exhaustion of the > will occur, paving the way for true and final acceptance of our > Selves, our true nature? > > Your strong advocacy for your position, to the exclusion of the > other is a good thing, using FFL to work out the balance of the > intellect. Keep it up! His strong advocacy would, IMHO, be ever so much better a thing if it weren't accomplished primarily by nastily trashing (his fantasy of) the alternative. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > wrote: > > > > You are very right Judy in that Yes can not be intentional. > > Coming from a Buddhist perspective, in which intent > and focus are very *much* a part of the realization > process, I'd have to disagree with you, Tom. > > I think that the issue that some people are reacting > to in my little cafe story is that it pushes their > *religious* buttons, the ones they don't like > to admit they have. They have been convinced, after > decades of indoctrination by the TM movement and > its Hindu underpinnings, that passivity is the *only* > way to go in the quest for enlightenment. Don't ever > work at anything because that would be "straining" > or "effort" or the imposition of will, and thus > an aspect of ego. So the "proper" attitude towards > enlightenment is to just sit around and wait for it > to happen on its own. > > And wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait. > I had a similar thought when I read what Tom had written, not because he is advocating passivity, he wouldn't be in his present state if that were so, but rather because intention IS a critical part of gaining realization-liberation-enlightenment. I liked what Alex said also of Tom saying that we must change boats in midstream to gain our Selves, only the boat we step into is invisible(!). So, once again, the paradox confronts us, to give ourselves over to intention, and surrender, both simultaneously. This is where faith and discrimination come in. I wholeheartedly agree with carrying forth our intention in order to reach the ultimate Goal. Otherwise how can exhaustion of the will occur, paving the way for true and final acceptance of our Selves, our true nature? Your strong advocacy for your position, to the exclusion of the other is a good thing, using FFL to work out the balance of the intellect. Keep it up! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/2/06 9:58 AM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > From a friend: > > > > Hi Rick, > > > > It seems that people getting jyotish consultations > > from International are now being told they are in > > different dasas to their previoyus readings. The > > reason given is that it is a new system for Sat Yuga. > > No-one gets to see the charts though so it is unknown > > what the system is. Any of your friends know about > > it? > > > > Regards > > > > R > > A jyotish friend responded on the side: > > "the calculation is called shristi samvatsar and is based on a > calculation from the surya siddhanta. The calculation is called "time for new improved product roll-out" since the old product is no longer selling. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Friday Indian Lunch-this Friday May 5
Title: Friday Indian Lunch-this Friday May 5 Vaju Moorthy of the Amma Center makes great South Indian lunches most Fridays, served at Morningstar Studio. In my opinion, the food is a lot better than that at any Indian restaurant in town. Anyone is welcome. Cost is $7. All you can eat. You have to reserve a day ahead of time by contacting Coralie Brook (details below). If you ask, she’ll put you on a list and email you once a week with that week’s menu. Here’s her latest announcement: Here is the lunch menu for this Friday (May 5) at Morningstar, catered by Vaju Moorthy. As you see, this is very traditional South Indian food RSVP is required! Idli (soft, steamed dumpling made of rice and urad dal) Vada Sambar Coconut Chutney Mixed vegetable Curry (No Cabbage ) Sweet and Savoury Kozhukattai (these are traditionally served in South India for Ganesh Chathurthi, Ganesh's birthday, which is in August) Plain Rice Chai To attend, you must RSVP to Coralie Brook by Wednesday evening at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 472-7148. Otherwise, we will ask that you wait until the following week and make advance reservation. That way there is enough food for everyone who comes.* Thank you, everyone. Coralie Brook To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From a friend: > > Hi Rick, > > It seems that people getting jyotish consultations > from International are now being told they are in > different dasas to their previoyus readings. The > reason given is that it is a new system for Sat Yuga. > No-one gets to see the charts though so it is unknown > what the system is. Any of your friends know about > it? > > Regards > > R > Kind of like New Coke and Classic Coke? I feel Service Marks (maybe patents?) comming on... The question is: Is there a lawsuit dasa? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] May 1st Illegal's boycott
Was anybody on the list affected by the illegal's boycott yesterday? I personally noticed far less traffic on the road, almost like a Sunday morning and noticed one Barbeque business that employees nearly 100% Hispanics closed. Other than that, the day was rather uneventful here in Tomball Texas, (twenty miles northwest of Houston). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
In a message dated 5/2/06 1:26:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't presume to the exalted position of a film critic. So I don't comment on the dramatic and cinematic criticisms made by these august critics. I'm not saying, or even implying, that The Lost City is a better movie than the Godfather II. I'm simply criticizing the critics on their criticism of The Lost City's historical accuracy. In these reviews we see – in all it's classic splendor – the Mainstream Media's thundering and apparently incurable stupidity on matters Cuban. I remember when I was a kid about 6, my father took our family and the family car on a boat trip to Cuba, around 1957. We stayed in the Havana Hilton, complete with bullet holes in the exterior. We had a wonderful time and were even able to drive through the countryside completely safe. I do remember a few police barricades that we occasionally had to drive through. As I recall Havana was a beautiful city and the people very friendly. I made friends with the hotel wait staff who used to bring me cherry cokes all the time. Unfortunately I was too young to fully appreciate such a trip, especially with the fate that Cuba suffered later. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yes...but'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (snip) > > There in that cafe in Sommières yesterday, I managed > > to get beyond "Yes, but..." > > > > I sat there trying to not have as much fun with the > > day as I knew I was capable of having, and then I > > caught myself doing it. The moment I did, I was > > able to laugh at myself. And through my laughter, > > I found my body saying "Yes." Out loud. Weirdest > > damned thing. > > > > Everything changed. Background flipflopped into > > foreground and the witnessing, a moment before > > unnoticed, moved front and center and reasserted > > its Self again. And all it took was getting to > > "Yes." > > > > Had an experience this weekend, which I can relate to this feeling. > Had to do with sitting with someone who was 'reading' my energy, and > noticed how much my energy itself seems to go 'back and forth'. Next, > as I sat with her, I began to notice, how when I acknowledged the > truth of how I felt, the energy in my head settled, thoughts > subsided, a peaceful feeling; > Then she asked me to bring this peaceful feeling in my head, down to > my heart, and feel the energy there...and it seems that's possible, > when you just simply acknowledge the truth of feeling; > Without the feeling of 'but', > Instead, a technique that can be used with eyes open, just feeling > whatever truth you feel, that quiets the brain, and then bring that > feeling of quietness, down into the heart, and just let it sit there; > And feel how this could be the seat of the soul, within the quiet > heart, which is quiet, because it knows the 'Truth', without > the 'but', or activity of searching for something... > I found it significant that the conscious acknowledgement of your inner Truth, your Jivan, your Soul essence, occurred while you were sitting quietly, on the weekend. This is how the seduction of the Self begins, in our quiet moments, when we are relaxed. Then as we consciously acknowledge that transcendent charm manifesting while we are in waking state, it becomes easier to discriminate and to recognize, and begins to take what is rightfully its own; us. Eventually our surrender to our Selves becomes complete, and inescapable, we are given over, and no more can our true nature be overshadowed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Community Website Interest Survey
first ? 2 @ 5.00 SECOND?90% OR MORE HOUSING@ 5.00 %.00% FOR ME BUT GREAT 4 OTHERS, FRIENDS 5.00 @ 5.00 10% FOR A CLASSISFIED %.0 & ten dollars or 5 for a start & 10 % for me good I idea for the cite. I was NOT with my AOL to easily answer the questions as presented in that format so I did so this way Bill Leed Sidha in Buffalo NY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Jyotish
on 5/2/06 9:58 AM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From a friend: > > Hi Rick, > > It seems that people getting jyotish consultations > from International are now being told they are in > different dasas to their previoyus readings. The > reason given is that it is a new system for Sat Yuga. > No-one gets to see the charts though so it is unknown > what the system is. Any of your friends know about > it? > > Regards > > R A jyotish friend responded on the side: "the calculation is called shristi samvatsar and is based on a calculation from the surya siddhanta. are there any predictions being made with these new dashas so we can see and compare accuracy." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] New Jyotish
>From a friend: Hi Rick, It seems that people getting jyotish consultations from International are now being told they are in different dasas to their previoyus readings. The reason given is that it is a new system for Sat Yuga. No-one gets to see the charts though so it is unknown what the system is. Any of your friends know about it? Regards R To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > wrote: > > > > You are very right Judy in that Yes can not be intentional. > > Coming from a Buddhist perspective, in which intent > and focus are very *much* a part of the realization > process, I'd have to disagree with you, Tom. > > I think that the issue that some people are reacting > to in my little cafe story is that it pushes their > *religious* buttons, the ones they don't like > to admit they have. They have been convinced, after > decades of indoctrination by the TM movement and > its Hindu underpinnings, that passivity is the *only* > way to go in the quest for enlightenment. Don't ever > work at anything because that would be "straining" > or "effort" or the imposition of will, and thus > an aspect of ego. So the "proper" attitude towards > enlightenment is to just sit around and wait for it > to happen on its own. There are two ways to address a disagreement. One is to make a positive case for one's own perspective; the other is to trash the other perspective. The disadvantage of choosing the second route is that one can be tempted to caricature the opposing viewpoint rather than presenting it fairly, in order to make it easier to trash. And if one convinces oneself of the truth of one's caricature, it makes it easier to convince oneself of the truth of one's own perspective without ever considering the possible merits of the other. This may raise suspicions that the person doing the trashing is deep down not so confident of his perspective as he pretends to be, since he has to distort the other to make it appear less valid than his own. > And wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait. > > And if it *doesn't* happen, after decades of > sitting around and waiting and doing what you're > told, that's somehow "all right" because it isn't > really "you" who has anything to do with your > enlightenment. It's really the universe, or Natural > Law, or God that's made the decision to leave you > lost in the illusion of unenlightenment. In my experience (doing what I feel is right for me, not "what I'm told"), I make more progress when I take responsibility without assigning blame. The former does not necessarily imply the latter. I don't assume "something else" has made any decisions about me, but by the same token, I do not assume I am somehow "not all right" because this or that hasn't happened yet. In other contexts, Barry has vigorously scorned the "seeking" mentality that requires one to feel "not all right" about oneself until one has "found" one's "all-rightness." But here he seems to be claiming the opposite. That suggests a certain degree of confusion. > That's an Ok set of things to believe, I guess, > if what you want is to never realize your enlight- > enment. Me, I prefer the Buddhist approach, in > which one's intent and ability to focus come into > play and in which talents and ability other than > waiting and hoping become part of the realization > process. > > I'm not comfortable with the just-be-patient-and- > wait approach to enlightenment, in which one is told > over and over by the *vendor* of that approach to > enlightenment that their UNenlightenment "isn't > their fault." What a fuckin' lie that is. Hmm, I've never heard any "vendor" say that. I suspect that notion is a function of the caricature Barry has created to bolster his own perspective. > It's a lie even if you believe in the model their > system is based on. If you believe that "stress" > is what keeps you from being enlightened, then who > created your stress? Well duh, you did. If you > believe it's karma that keeps you from being > enlightened, well who created the karma? Well > duh, again, you did. Take some responsibility fer > chrssakes...if you're convinced that you are not > enlightened, YOU created that reality (or, as it > turns out, unreality). Yes, duh. Again, though, taking responsibility is not the same as blaming oneself. > I *know* that saying these things on a TM forum > is going to rile people up, and make some of them > crazy. It's absolute HERESY to a person who has drunk > the TM Kool-Aid and believes that effortlessness is > the *only* model that leads to transcendence and > eventually enlightenment to suggest that there are > *other* models -- models that involve will and > intention -- and that they lead there, too. It's not the "heresy" that's the problem, of course, it's the caricature of what the "heresy" is presented as opposing. Perhaps the reason it's a caricature is because the caricaturist has never quite understood the real nature of the alternative to his own perspective. > The people who have spent their lives -- sometimes > thirty or forty years of their lives -- sitting > and waiting and waiting and waiting for something > else to "do enlightenment" for them are *aff
[FairfieldLife] Community Website Interest Survey
Title: Community Website Interest Survey From a friend: This just in from my friend Phyllis Khare in FL -- Hello friends and family - I'm sending this out as a group letter. I think it is a great thing Kim is doing. Please take the time to go over this. Feel free to write me back if you have questions. Phyllis Would you please consider sending this Community Website Interest Survey out to as many meditators in your address book as you feel appropriate? I also would like your personal feedback. Thanks so much. A Sidha friend in California, USA, is considering the possibility of a worldwide community website, exclusively for TM meditators, that would allow us to connect for a variety of purposes. In order to research the economic feasibility he has asked me to help by sending out this survey. It's multiple choice & only takes about 3 minutes. Click your Reply button and make the marks requested on that copy and then send it back to me. I have organized this so it comes back to me and then on to Kim. Or you can respond directly to Kim at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] He already has one website just for TM practitioners: www.IlluminedHomeExchange.com He wants to get responses from > 200 meditators in the next month from meditators throughout the world. If you have suggestions for other meditators to survey Kim suggests forwarding this on to them directly. If you have ANY suggestions for Kim that could make this website idea better please include those with your response. He really wants to provide something valuable based on meditator "customer" feedback. Thank you. Interest Survey - for possible TM Community Website Approximately 3 minutes. Your feedback is VERY important. Let us be together Let us eat together Let us be vital together Let us be radiating truth, radiating the light of life Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity The Upanishads Does the idea of a web-based service that exclusively connects TM practitioners to other practitioners throughout the world, with sections such as: Announcements, Business Yellow Pages, Employment, Housing/Roomates, Event/Friend Connections & Classifieds, interest you? To gauge the level of interest would you please mark your choice next to the price and likely percentage for each item? Announcements/Events Imagine you were interested in announcing your new or existing business, your new book, restaurant’s grand opening, daughter's hole-in-one, or your son’s college graduation, to the TM meditating community. What do you think would be a fair price for a 1 month ad in a new exclusively TM meditator website? Please place an X to the right of highest amount you think would be fair. (Likely a price break for 3 listings or more) 3 listings for $5 2 listings for $5 1 listing for $5 1 listing for $10 If it existed how likely would you be to use this service in the next 6 months at the price you said was fair? Place an X to the right of the percent. Only REAL, HONEST feedback is desired. Please don’t rate high just to be “nice.” Thank you. 0 % 10 % 50 % 90 % Employment Connection: There is work being planned by another Movement organization towards a website for meditator job connections and internships. Business Directory (Yellow Pages type) IF THIS DOES NOT APPLY PLEASE SKIP IT. Do you have the type of business that could benefit the TM meditating community? (Examples: Virtually any type of Internet business, accounting, legal, financial, design, architect, consultant of any kind, or other professional service, etc.) (Would you like to have more meditators as customers?) What do you think would be a fair price for a 3 month ad in a new exclusively TM meditator business directory? Please place an X to the right of the highest amount you think would be fair. $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 If you have the type of business that could benefit from a meditator Business Directory, how likely would you be to place and ad in the next 6 months at the highest price you said was fair? Place an X to the right of the percent. 0 % 10 % 50 % 90 % Housing/Roommates Imagine you were looking for an apartment or housing situation with a meditator(s) or a home for sale by another meditator, or offering a room or house for rent. What do you think would be a fair price for a 3 month ad in a new exclusively TM meditator website? Please place an X to the right of the highest amount you think would be fair. $ 5 $10 $15 $20 $25 If it existed how likely would you be to use this service in the next 6 months at the price you said was fair? Place an X to the right of the percent. 0 % 10 % 50 % 90 % Friend/Event Connections Imagine you were looking for a means to connect with other meditators for a specific event/activity, (concert, movie, tennis, residence course, trip to India, etc.) or area of interest (music, art, cooking, surviving the parenting of teenagers, etc). What do you think would be a fair price for a 3 month ad in a new excl
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TorguoiseB Anger, he smiles, towering in shiny metallic purple armour Queen Jealousy, envy waits behind him Her fiery green gown sneers at the grassy ground Blue are the life-giving waters taken for granted, They quietly understand Once happy turquoise armies lay opposite ready, But wonder why the fight is on But they're bold as love, just as bold as love Yeah, they're bold as love Just ask the axis To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Andy Garcia's Cuba movie
Having lived in south florida for 13 years and having gone to graduate school with many second generation Cubans who fled Fidel's revolution and having professors who taught in cuba before and after the revolution I have learned quite a bit about Che and Fidel and their revolution. I am in full agreement with Mr. Fontova. Fidel ruined that country. --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Movie Critics Aghast at Andy Garcia's The Lost City > by Humberto Fontova > > > Andy Garcia blew it big-time with his movie The Lost > City. He blew > it with the mainstream critics that is. Almost > unanimously, they're > ripping a movie 16 years in the making. In this > engaging drama of a > middle-class Cuban family crumbling during free > Havana's last days, > in which he both directs and stars, Garcia insisted > on depicting > some historical truth about Cuba � a grotesque and > unforgivable > blunder in his industry. He's now paying the price. > > Earlier, many film festivals refused to screen it. > Now many Latin > American countries refuse to show it. The film's > offenses are many > and varied. Most unforgivable of all, Che Guevara is > shown killing > people in cold blood. Who ever heard of such > nonsense? And just > where does this uppity Andy Garcia get the > effrontery to portray > such things? The man obviously doesn't know his > place. > > And just where did Garcia get this preposterous > notion of pre-Castro > Cuba as a relatively prosperous but politically > troubled place, they > ask? All the Cubans he portrays seem middle class? > Where in his > movie is the tsunami of stooped and starving > peasants that carried > Fidel and Che into Havana on it's crest, they ask? > Where's all those > diseased and illiterate laborers and peasants my > professors, Dan > Rather, CNN and Oliver Stone told me about, ask the > critics? > > Garcia � that cinematic bomb-thrower � has seriously > jolted the > Mainstream Media's fantasies and hallucinations of > pre-Castro Cuba, > of Che, of Fidel, and of Cubans in general. In > consequence, the > critics are unnerved and disoriented. Their > annoyance and scorn is > spewing forth in review after review. > > Garcia blew it. If only his characters had spoken > with accents like > John Belushi's as a Saturday Night Live Killer Bee! > If only they'd > dressed like The Three Amigos! If only they'd > behaved like Cheech > and Chong! If only they'd mimicked the mannerisms > and gait of > Freddie Prinze in Chico and the Man! If only the > women had piled a > roadside fruit stand on their head like Carmen > Miranda in Road to > Rio! If only the cast had looked like the little guy > who handles my > luggage when I visit Cancun! Or the guys who do my > lawn! Everybody > knows that's what Hispanics look like! > > If only masses of Cubans had been shown toiling in > salt mines like > Spartacus, or picking crops like Tom Joad or getting > lashed by a > vicious landlord like Kunta Kinte, or hustling for a > living like > Ratso Rizzo! > > "In a movie about the Cuban revolution, we almost > never see any of > the working poor for whom the revolution was > supposedly > fought,"sniffs Peter Reiner in The Christian Science > Monitor. The > Lost City misses historical complexity." > > Actually what's missing is Mr. Reiner's historical > knowledge. Andy > Garcia and screenwriter Guillermo Cabrera Infante > knew full well > that "the working poor" had no role in the stage of > the Cuban > Revolution shown in the movie. The Anti-Batista > rebellion was led > and staffed overwhelmingly by Cuba's middle � and > especially, upper � > class. To wit: in August of 1957 Castro's rebel > movement called for > a "National Strike" against the Batista dictatorship > � and > threatened to shoot workers who reported to work. > The "National > Strike" was completely ignored. > > Another was called for April 9, 1958. And again > Cuban workers blew a > loud and collective raspberry at their "liberators," > reporting to > work en masse. > > "Garcia's tale bemoans the loss of easy wealth for a > precious few," > harrumphs Michael Atkinson in The Village Voice. > "Poor people are > absolutely absent; Garcia and Infante seem to have > thought that > peasant revolutions happen for no particular > reason�or at least no > reason the moneyed 1 percent should have to worry > about." > > What's "absolutely absent" is Mr Atkinson's > knowledge about the Cuba > Garcia depicts in his movie. His crack about that > "moneyed 1 per > cent," and especially his "peasant revolution" > epitomize the clich�d > idiocies still parroted by the chattering classes > about Cuba. > > "The impoverished masses of Cubans who embraced > Castro as a > liberator appear only in grainy, black-and-white > news clips," snorts > Stephen Holden in The New York Times. "Political > dialogue in the > film is strictly of the junior high school variety.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Store in Iowa City
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick > Archer > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > From a friend: > > > > > > > > How about this message that someone sent to > me: > > > > > > > > I just saw one of the wierdest things in my > life. > > > There is a new > > > 3000 > > > > square foot Maharishi store on the main bottom > > > floor in the mall > > > in downtown > > > > Iowa City next to the University of Iowa. > There > > > are 2 large > > > plasma flat > > > > screens with the Hindu Gods floating around > and > > > the Hindu boys > > > chanting on > > > > the other screen. The 2 ladies working at the > > > store never heard > > > of TM and > > > > do not know what it is. But it does not > matter > > > because I was the > > > only > > > > customer. I bought a Guru Dev card for 12 > > > bucks. The store > > > is done > > > > in very top quality signs and display cases. > > > > Yes 3000 square > > > feet! > > > > Complete insanity and non rational cognition. > > > > Then I walked 2 > > > short > > > > blocks away to the MMY Spa and the fellow in > > > charge there said > > > they have > > > > never had a customer! Also very > nice > > > PK tables and > > > equipment and > > > > 6 rooms or more. And another good enough > size > > > store with half > > > of the same > > > > products. Hey complete insanity! It > > > makes me doubt if > > > MMY is > > > > real. > > > > > > > > > > I weep. > > > > Or let it strip away all your concepts, > Grasshopper. > > Both good and bad. > > > > > If my concepts get stripped away naturally, fine. > But I'm not going > to mood-make any concepts I may have into being > stripped away. I hear you Panda Bear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ~--> > > > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured > and > > > poor with hope and healing > > > > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > > > > > > --- > -~-> > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TorguoiseB writes: snipped > I sat there trying to not have as much fun with the > day as I knew I was capable of having, and then I > caught myself doing it. The moment I did, I was > able to laugh at myself. And through my laughter, > I found my body saying "Yes." Out loud. Weirdest > damned thing. > > Everything changed. Background flipflopped into > foreground and the witnessing, a moment before > unnoticed, moved front and center and reasserted > its Self again. And all it took was getting to > "Yes." > > I'm sure it'll pass...all things do...but it's > neat while it lasts. Life's cool sometimes, yes? > > Tom T: > Very astute observations. Reminds me of Patanjali Chapter 3 > Vs 54: Knowledge born of the finest discrimination takes us to the > farthest shore. > It is intuitive, omniscient and beyond all divisions of time and space. > Vs 55: And when the translucent intellect is as pure as the Self, > there is Enlightenment. > > It is the Self knowing the Self but there is the working of the > intellect that makes the final and finest discrimination. Actually the above quote is about viveka-khyati --an important experience and discrimination which can continue for quite a while, but alas is not liberation--athough that is the next chapter (of the YS). It *is* often confused with liberation. The Self knowing the Self is still a ways off. You may have seen the man behind the curtain Dorothy, but there's still more to Oz than this. As to the > cool stuff passing it is sometimes easier to think of it as > aclimination to what is going on. If we aclimate then we have > virtually no contrast and then the coolness is the ongoing day to day > reality. It is my experience that all this cool stuff just gets more > and more aclimated too and then we know it as our day to day everyday > life. Enjoy. Tom Interesting description of viveka-khyati. The self continues to present experiences to Self and more objects of awareness gain the slippery teflon coating of Love, eventually absorbed by Self. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Mad-Cow, Dirt-Hogs, NOW, Shit-Eating Fishes of Asia
UtilitiesA bone to pick Thursday April 20 2006 17:21 IST Maneka GandhiBecause the oceans of the world have been decimated by over-fishing and rivers are increasing being polluted, people are beginning to eat more farmed fish. When you eat farmed fish you dont just eat a creature brought up in a sterile pond. You also eat the dead bodies and manure of chickens, pigs and ducks. The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation calls this system Integrated Livestock Fish Farming and says it should be done in developing countries to help the poor get protein. In spite of the Mad Cow crisis when cattle were fed sheep meat, no one seems to be worried about the feeding of faeces to fish which will be consumed by humans. Few people know that most pond-fed farmed fish in India are fed on a diet of human waste and sewage. And the countries that use human faeces to feed fish are India, China, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Korea, Indonesia, and Nigeria. I have seen how it works. Small plots of dug out land are given on contract to poor people in the villages for fish farming. These aquaculture ponds are stocked with fish, and used as bathrooms by the owners and their friends, to wash cattle, and throw manure into. Every few weeks, the fish are taken out and sold in the local market. The ponds stink and are covered with a green slime. Basically these are toilets that pay for themselves - an economic sulabh shauchalaya. Raising fish on excreta, nightsoil or wastewater is encouraged by fishery experts, (bureaucrats who come around once in a while) as it is natural food for fish. It does not matter that human or animal faecal solids, use of raw sewage or fresh nightsoil in fish ponds should be prohibited for health reasons. A wide range of fish species have been cultivated in aquaculture ponds receiving human waste, including common carp, Indian major carps, Chinese silver carp, pighead carp, grass carp, crucian carp, Nile carp, tilapia, milkfish, catfish, kissing gouramy, giant gourami, silver barb and freshwater prawns. The selection reflects local culture rather than fish optimally suited to such feeding. For example, Chinese carps and Indian major carps are the major species in excreta-fed systems in China and India. Tilapia are better suited to excreta-fed systems but carp is eaten more as is milkfish which does poorly in these adverse environmental conditions. Many of these ponds that are fertilised with human excreta grow duckweed which is used not just as feed for carp but also for chickens and ducks. Every now and then the overload of excreta and toxic sewage hits the oxygen supply and all the fish come belly up. Ever so often you hear of thousands of fish dead in lakes that are fed with the towns sewage. This happens mainly at night when the phytoplankton have higher rates of respiration and so the dissolved oxygen in the water becomes less. The phytoplankton develop as a result of the nutrients contained in the waste. Phytoplankton provide feed for the largest percentage of fish farmed in Asia. Fish also die when the bacterial load becomes too much for their frail bodies to bear. One of the main reasons for ponds failing is high ammonia concentration in the waste thrown into the pond. After both sewage and faeces have large amounts of urea and urine. Ammonia is toxic to fish in the concentration range 0.2 - 2.0 mg/l. However, the tolerance of different species of fish varies, with tilapa species being least affected by high ammonia levels. In ponds receiving large quantities of organic matter (this is the scientific term used by the industry for excreta and sewage so as not to drive you away!), sediments accumulate and release chemicals such as methane and sulphides. Though dissolved oxygen is essential to the fish at 5 mg/1, the level in excreta-fed ponds is usually at an absolute minimum of a little less than 1mg/l leading to many other diseases that are undetected by the fish grower but will show up in the fish eater. Scientists say that, while yields are satisfactory from waste fed fish ponds, higher yields could be achieved if the fish were fed other foods such as cereals. They also say pond nutrition needs to be diversified from just faeces. I could have told them that! How much weight can a fish put on by just eating excreta? But this is not going to happen ecause cereals cost money and excreta is free. What are the health impacts of eating sewage and human faeces via fish? For one, human faeces is very toxic in itself. Sewage has heavy metals and persistent pesticides in it and these concentrate themselves in the body of the fish. Today fish are the largest PCB (a set of carcinogenic chemicals), heavy metal and mercury carriers in the world. Fish that eat algae, phytoplankton, duckweed that eat the faeces and sewage accumulate heavy metals and poisonous chemicals just as fast in these sewage ponds. Do you think a fresh healthy fish
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Yes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are very right Judy in that Yes can not be intentional. Coming from a Buddhist perspective, in which intent and focus are very *much* a part of the realization process, I'd have to disagree with you, Tom. I think that the issue that some people are reacting to in my little cafe story is that it pushes their *religious* buttons, the ones they don't like to admit they have. They have been convinced, after decades of indoctrination by the TM movement and its Hindu underpinnings, that passivity is the *only* way to go in the quest for enlightenment. Don't ever work at anything because that would be "straining" or "effort" or the imposition of will, and thus an aspect of ego. So the "proper" attitude towards enlightenment is to just sit around and wait for it to happen on its own. And wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait. And if it *doesn't* happen, after decades of sitting around and waiting and doing what you're told, that's somehow "all right" because it isn't really "you" who has anything to do with your enlightenment. It's really the universe, or Natural Law, or God that's made the decision to leave you lost in the illusion of unenlightenment. That's an Ok set of things to believe, I guess, if what you want is to never realize your enlight- enment. Me, I prefer the Buddhist approach, in which one's intent and ability to focus come into play and in which talents and ability other than waiting and hoping become part of the realization process. I'm not comfortable with the just-be-patient-and- wait approach to enlightenment, in which one is told over and over by the *vendor* of that approach to enlightenment that their UNenlightenment "isn't their fault." What a fuckin' lie that is. It's a lie even if you believe in the model their system is based on. If you believe that "stress" is what keeps you from being enlightened, then who created your stress? Well duh, you did. If you believe it's karma that keeps you from being enlightened, well who created the karma? Well duh, again, you did. Take some responsibility fer chrssakes...if you're convinced that you are not enlightened, YOU created that reality (or, as it turns out, unreality). I *know* that saying these things on a TM forum is going to rile people up, and make some of them crazy. It's absolute HERESY to a person who has drunk the TM Kool-Aid and believes that effortlessness is the *only* model that leads to transcendence and eventually enlightenment to suggest that there are *other* models -- models that involve will and intention -- and that they lead there, too. The people who have spent their lives -- sometimes thirty or forty years of their lives -- sitting and waiting and waiting and waiting for something else to "do enlightenment" for them are *affronted* when they hear from someone who is part of a diff- erent tradition, one that believes that one can, and should, "do enlightenment" oneself. They're especially affronted if the offending person seems to have had a few experiences that indicate that the intent/focus approach has actually *worked* for them. Such stories might make seekers who are part of the "wait patiently for enlightenment; it's out of your hands" school of thought think, "Gee...what if I really *have* been wasting my time waiting around all these years for enlightenment to reveal itself to me?" Can't have that. So the hard-line passive, wait- and-see types get a little uppity and they spout the dogma they've been taught, that the effortless, do- nothing-and-wait approach to enlightenment they've been taught is the ONLY way that enlightenment can possibly happen. And I actually understand why people do this -- repeating the dogma that there is nothing you can do but wait gives you something to *do* while you're sitting around waiting...it relieves the boredom. :-) I'm not going to pursue this whole subject here any more, though. There is just too much resistance on this forum to presenting the taking-an-active-role- in-your-own-realization approach. It's just a waste of time to talk about it, because the decades of indoctrination have been too effective. The waiters have been waiting so long that they can't even imagine that there is something they could do other than waiting. And they get angry when someone *does* suggest such a thing. So I'm going to leave them to their waiting, and hope that approach works out for them in the future a little better than it's worked out for them so far. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi R
