[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Good News!- Education Tour a Great Success
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Huge demand? perhaps not a demand for TM, but a demand for *something*. The seminar I participated in in Tucson had about 80 people show up. True, most of them were invited guests there at least partly for the free lunch, but they were QUITE interested in what was said. We're still editing the video of the seminar. Will post the URL as we get stuff up. Kinda like timeshare sales meetings where folks go for the meal and the free hotel stays, I guess. No doubt, that was a hook for some. But you appear to be in denial about how serious ADHD is becoming in schools these days. Recall that its almost a given that kids who watch TV a lot before age 4 will become ADHD and that almost all US kids are plopped in front of the TV as a baby sitter. Anything that helps, if it is possible to implement, will be welcomed by today's educators. If some other, cheaper, meditation program can help, obviously they'll use that, but the independent teachers will have a hard time establishing the standardization and efficacy of their teaching without reference to where they learned. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] 'Interesting Insights in Going w/Flow of Intuition'
Thursday 25 May 2006 Something creative, subtle, and unique is gong on. You sense potentials in yourself, people, and ideas. There comes a point when 'definition' is not what is needed but 'intuition' of expanding relationships. The individuality of this makes you feel you are perceiving things no one else can grasp. Perhaps that is literally true, yet you may be sharing these insights indirectly through your joy of life, and even telepathically through an osmosis of perceptiveness. Risking all to obtain the honor you covet, honor in the sight of G*d rather than the world, you do what no one else comprehends because it derives from your own relation to the Universal Unique. When you win, no one else may even know. Mercury's square with Uranus assures you of intense awareness which liberates and exalts. You may seize upon geometric, mathematical, or phenomenologically statistical relationships with utter certainty and Aha! delight. Venturesome qualities show you what is really worth doing whether anyone else sees it or not. So you may be alone to ponder things and not feel sad about that. When you are ready to move on in a direction your insight has pointed out, you know it and are definite. You will not be foiled by surprises because you expect them, retaining within yourself a capacity to respond with facility whatever they may be. The sun's sextile with Saturn grants an ability to sense the ups and downs of destiny, to roll with the punches or catch the bouquets. Your timing may be just right if you give it a little thought, and choose what can be done to move closer to success, efficiency, and a plateau of accomplishment on which to stand with poise. Venus's trine with Pluto, exact now while the moon is in Taurus, hints at beauty in wide varieties and several utilities. It may seem crass to consider beauty 'useful' yet that is what those in advertising, display or the arts do for a living. Some of them may hit their stride quite effectively. You may sense how to make your work more esthetically enjoyable. He who enjoys his work because it shows forth elements of beauty in every detail is headed toward happier success than he who feels his toil drab and dreary. When philosophy and understanding unite with loveliness something is afoot which might be called the essence of fulfillment. If you are not enjoying this, you are earning it through merits you employ or expand. Cosmic Piper To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] 'Galloway says murder of Blair would be 'justified' '
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[FairfieldLife] What the phuk is this?
http://tinyurl.com/hdca2 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Idea for Rick Archer
on 5/26/06 12:44 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a way to say to the TMO and the MUM community that you're still alive and kicking: Take out an ad in the Fairfield Ledger this week-end -- doesn't have to be expensive, maybe $50 or $100 -- that says something to the effect: CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FAIRFIELD LIFE YAHOO! DISCUSSION GROUPON ON ITS 100,000th POST SINCE ITS SEPTEMBER 5, 2001 INCEPTION. ...and nothing should stop you from issuing a mini press release on it...I think it's worthy of at least a little human-interest story in the Ledger, no? Not a bad idea. Anyone feel like taking a stab at writing one? I would submit it today and it would probably make Monday's edition. Might even be better to put it in the Weekly Reader, which more 'rus read. They come out on Thursdays. I think their deadline is late Tuesday or early Wednesday. We could write it collectively by suggesting improvements to whatever rough draft anyone first posts. We could even post a byline such as By shempmcgurk, authfriend, TurquoiseB and New_Morning_Blank_State of FairfielLife. Too bad Rudra Joe isn't around. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree; we are a culture that is quite addicted to violence and dysfunctional behavior...It's not just the government, but the whole culture:Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more over the top..I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution.Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity;Their level of compassion.We've seen the enemy and it is us. We, as a nation, weren't always like that. I started life at a time when people could leave their housesunlocked, keys in the car, neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, teen pregnancy rare, out of wedlock birth even rarer, fathers took care of their families, mothers didn't need to work outside the home, taxes were low,and overallcrime rates were low. I'm not saying life was perfect then and we were without faults but things sure have changed since then. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:21:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yep. And most kids are rarely alone with their own thoughts or silence - cell phones, ipods, computers and busy schedules make it unlikely. what we had as free time while growing up is now devoted to special summer internships, specialty camps, SAT prep starting in grade 9, the push and pressure to stay busy and keep grooming the resume. I wonder how much the human physiology can take before it snaps. Maybe people will rebel and...start TM. Naa! they don't have time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Galloway says murder of Blair would be 'justified' '
Why Galloway is a regular Pat Robertson. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What the phuk is this?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/hdca2 +++ How did that fit on a tiny url- an oxymoron. That should end comments on MDG for being too wordy. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Of course, this is the same guy who was attempting a bit of the old in-out in-out with females not his wife, so who knows? And your reason for assuming that the rumor is true is...? When he saw the rumor that he was running around with other women being discussed here, Orme-Johnson confirmed that he had once made a pass at a kitchen worker (I believe it was) on a course. Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Of course, this is the same guy who was attempting a bit of the old in-out in-out with females not his wife, so who knows? And your reason for assuming that the rumor is true is...? When he saw the rumor that he was running around with other women being discussed here, Orme-Johnson confirmed that he had once made a pass at a kitchen worker (I believe it was) on a course. Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? Heavy duty unstressing was a phenomenon of long meditation , particualrly pre-rounding (asanas,pranayam, tm). Further lessened with walk and talks, buddy systems, better food, etc. Real, heavy duty unstressing is not usually a field phenomenon for people doing regular program. Was DOJ transported from the middle of a 6 month long rounding course to this kitchen? Was he even rounding on this FL course? While real, heavy duty unstressing is not usually a field phenomenon for people doing regular program, IT CAN be used as an excuse. MMY was once asked if the recent rude behavior of someone was unstressing. He said no, just bad manners To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 5/25/06 1:11 PM, Patrick Gillam at jpgillam@ wrote: An interesting remark by David Orme-Johnson: Over the 40 years that I've been interested in self-development, *I've tried most of the meditation and relaxation techniques that are out there* (emphasis added). In my experience none of them do what Transcendental Meditation does. http://tinyurl.com/foyzs I guess I had always thought of other practices as being strictly off limits to MIU faculty. It makes sense that an investigator would try them out. I don't believe him. I think he's lying to sound objective. At the very least, something sounds very fishy about it. Of course, this is the same guy who was attempting a bit of the old in-out in-out with females not his wife, so who knows? And your reason for assuming that the rumor is true is...? ...that he wrote Rick Archer (who reproduced it here on this forum) admitting as much... What was the message number? What am I, a search engine? There's almost 100,000 posts on this forum, Spare Egg. Hopefully, Rick can enlighten us on this... Making a pass at someone on a course, and copping to it, is hardly a dishonest activity, and not the same as multiple attempts. If THAT was what you were referring to, it's kinda silly to imply that he's a dishonest person because he already admitted to the singular action. Any proof there were not multiple attempts? He was only busted once. Big difference. My observations on TM guys who inappropriately hit on woman,particularly on courses, was they were chronic in the obnoxiousness of theirnd rude pursuits. Inappropriate is a relative term. In 100 hits, 10 women might enjoy the attention. In talking to a number of movement women, most overt hitting-on was seen as boorish, unwanted, and out of place in the context. For every great SIMS / ATR course conquest story that some relish in repeated ego-bolstering, there are, IME, 10 or more untold stories of women going back to their rooms,alone, puking at the gross ass who just hit on them in stupid ways on a course. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What the phuk is this?
cardemaister wrote: What the phuk is this? The Samadhi Raja Sutra? http://tinyurl.com/hdca2 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What the phuk is this?
Nelson wrote: How did that fit on a tiny url- an oxymoron. By making the url tiny? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Of course, this is the same guy who was attempting a bit of the old in-out in-out with females not his wife, so who knows? And your reason for assuming that the rumor is true is...? When he saw the rumor that he was running around with other women being discussed here, Orme-Johnson confirmed that he had once made a pass at a kitchen worker (I believe it was) on a course. Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? No, apparently it was an unwanted pass at an underling employee. It's called sexual harrassment. Not mutually exclusive, of course. O-J said it was unstressing. He also said unstressing was no excuse. It probably is an excuse, a phony one, if you are not in heavy long term rounding. And are a 30 year meditator. And have been full time in the movement for 25 years and know the signs of real heavy unstressing. Was his neck snapping violetly from side to side when he hit on her? :) (HAHAHA, THATS a funny image.!) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What the phuk is this?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://tinyurl.com/hdca2 +++ How did that fit on a tiny url- an oxymoron. That should end comments on MDG for being too wordy. N. I for one don't think MDG is too wordy. His text is so fluent, IMO, that it's a great joy to read it if one is interested in the subject matter. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree; we are a culture that is quite addicted to violence and dysfunctional behavior... It's not just the government, but the whole culture: Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more over the top.. I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution. Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity; Their level of compassion. We've seen the enemy and it is us. We, as a nation, weren't always like that. I started life at a time when people could leave their houses unlocked, I still do. Have in my last three homes. What?! Texas is not such a paradise? neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, still very much well and alive in many areas. Sorry to hear its not in Texas. teen pregnancy rare, out of wedlock birth even rarer, In the 60's we had 2-3 in my class. Girls usually left school. Shame, lots of whispering and crude jokes about the girl. Today, girls go to school, proud to be (becoming) mothers, taking pre-natal classes. Seems much healthier today. fathers took care of their families, Still do. Any fathers here NOT take care of their families? mothers didn't need to work outside the home, My mom didn't NEED to work, but when I was about 12, she wanted to. She said she didn't want to JUST play tennis and lunch. She started her own business in the early 60's. It grew to 400 employees and recognized as a leader in its field. I was / am way proud of my mom. Great inspsiration and role model. I prefered her working over stay-at-home moms who - at least some -- seemed to be going bored, obessive about kids, and lives focussed on the trivial. taxes were low, HAHAHAHAHA. Where have you been??? Marginal tax rates were up to 70%. Today they are 32%. and overall crime rates were low. On a personal level, I don't see much of a change. In some ways scarier then. Brainless greasers cruising in over-charged cars. Overt racism (in northern california). Strong gender bias. Smoking everywhere -- theatres, church, classrooms (college), etc. I'm not saying life was perfect then and we were without faults but things sure have changed since then. Yes. We now have the internet, Ipods, DVDs, HI Def color TV and big screens (compared to low res BW of my youth), cars that pollute 97% less (still a ways to go), cleaner air, claner water, greater equality among races, creeds and gender, many spiritual paths readily available and acceptable, and inflation adjusted percapita income 4-6x what it was then, viagra, lipitor, and many wonder drugs, curable cancers, health food stores everywhere, rising collective consciousness (:)), etc. Wow, I fail to grok your POV. All I can say is that the music 66-71 was better than now. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and more over the top.. I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution. Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity; Their level of compassion. We've seen the enemy and it is us. Look at the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous violence in westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite shallow scripts, overt racism and gender bias on TV, AND 3 F**king BW low res channels.. Today, there is far more choice, a number of really well written and acted shows, with thought provoking themes. I'd much rather have kids navigating this environment than the TV wasteland of the 60's. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? No, apparently it was an unwanted pass at an underling employee. It's called sexual harrassment. Not mutually exclusive, of course. O-J said it was unstressing. He also said unstressing was no excuse. It probably is an excuse, a phony one, if you are not in heavy long term rounding. Maybe I didn't make myself clear, or maybe you didn't read what he wrote. He said it was *not* an excuse, i.e., he was not excusing the bad behavior on the grounds that he was unstressing. There's a difference between an excuse and an explanation. If you want to claim it was a phony explanation, fine. But phony or not, he was not using the explanation as an excuse. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? No, apparently it was an unwanted pass at an underling employee. It's called sexual harrassment. Not mutually exclusive, of course. O-J said it was unstressing. He also said unstressing was no excuse. It probably is an excuse, a phony one, if you are not in heavy long term rounding. Maybe I didn't make myself clear, or maybe you didn't read what he wrote. He said it was *not* an excuse, i.e., he was not excusing the bad behavior on the grounds that he was unstressing. There's a difference between an excuse and an explanation. If you want to claim it was a phony explanation, fine. But phony or not, he was not using the explanation as an excuse. OK. Point taken. I revise my statement. I think it was a phony explanation. Again, was his neck snapping violently from side to side when he hit on her? (That image STILL cracks me up.) And again, in my observations, gross and obnoxious hitting on women on courses -- or in centers, was a CHRONIC behavioir of those so inclined. It was not a one time event for all I saw. >From a different, but related angle, is DOJ making the case that after being exposed to many gorgeous, vivacious movement women over 25 years, and watching Domash and others score wildly for years, he finally, after 25 years decided to make his first, only and last inappropriate pass? Doesn't pass the smell test. Doesn't fit the hitter profile in my observations. Nor the grapevine. I had heard stories about DOJ hitting on woman before. Maybe false rumor -- who knows -- but where there is smoke, probabilisticaly speaking there is usually fire. It ties to his statement about trying and evaluating most meditation methods. Just doesn't ring true to me -- having seen and heard him a lot in the 70's aropund MIU. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? No, apparently it was an unwanted pass at an underling employee. It's called sexual harrassment. Not mutually exclusive, of course. O-J said it was unstressing. He also said unstressing was no excuse. It probably is an excuse, a phony one, if you are not in heavy long term rounding. Maybe I didn't make myself clear, or maybe you didn't read what he wrote. He said it was *not* an excuse, i.e., he was not excusing the bad behavior on the grounds that he was unstressing. There's a difference between an excuse and an explanation. If you want to claim it was a phony explanation, fine. But phony or not, he was not using the explanation as an excuse. While I get your point, I would argue that in this case, excuse and explanation overlap a bit. Why did he bring unstressing up? Was he implying that he was unstressing, but still had 100% control of his actions and takes 100% responsibility for them? If so, why mention unstressing.Its irrelevant if one is claiming the above. The purpose in mentioning unstressing, IMO, is to garner sympathy, and to implicitly make the case that he did not have 100% control of his actions and thus cannot take 100% responsibility for them. To me he is weaving the implicit arguement that, I was unstressing. I only had PARTIAL control of my actions and thus can only takes partial responsibility for them. Unstessing IS a reality. Have pity on me. I am a VICTIM of unstressing. But the deeper reason I think its a phony explanation, as stated in an adjacent post, heavy unstressing is most usually a phenomenon of heavy rounding. He was not heavily rounding as far as I can see. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What the phuk is this?
on 5/26/06 9:16 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://tinyurl.com/hdca2 +++ How did that fit on a tiny url- an oxymoron. That should end comments on MDG for being too wordy. N. I for one don't think MDG is too wordy. His text is so fluent, IMO, that it's a great joy to read it if one is interested in the subject matter. I agree. Sometimes I read his whole post, sometimes I don't. But one can always choose. If you don't like long posts, or you don't like what Michael writes in general, just delete them. No need to gripe. He deserves credit for the time and effort he puts into them. What I do object to are people who are too lazy and inconsiderate to snip. Rather than take a few seconds to do so, they force everyone else to scroll down several screens to see a brief comment at the end of earlier posts they're not going to reread. This also makes it hard for the folks who get the daily digests, in which all the posts of the day are conglomerated into one email. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Sexual Practices (was Urdhva-retas?)
Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [In response to my answer to his question about upward-directed sexual energy] Impressive, Michael. Thank you, Rick. I'll pass your appreciative energy along to those who taught me. No response immediately comes to mind other than thanks for taking the time to write it. You seemed sincere in your question, and I had some understanding and exper- ience that directly related, so I was happy to be of some service. You should write a book or several. I am - several. You could make mucho dinero I am. and have a lot of fun. I am! Life is good. Congratulations on the impending 100,000 post breakthrough. I've been along for the ride from the beginning. Isn't there some tradition that after 100,000 repetitions of certain mantras (or posts), something quite wonderful happens? ;) Namaste, Michael PARA - THE CENTER FOR REALIZATION and THE RELATIONSHIP INSTITUTE Michael Dean Goodman Ph.D., D.D., Director Boca Raton (Palm Beach County) Florida 561-350-3930 (24 hours) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Counselor * Author * Speaker/Educator Spiritual guide (ashtanga yoga/meditation, tantra, satsang, ayur veda...) Workshops Retreats * Classes * Private Educational Sessions Clients and programs throughout the United States, Europe, and India Working in person or by phone Free initial consultation to discuss your needs and goals To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] My mom didn't NEED to work, but when I was about 12, she wanted to. She said she didn't want to JUST play tennis and lunch. She started her own business in the early 60's. It grew to 400 employees and recognized as a leader in its field. Now, this I find fascinating. Could you tell us more about the company: what type of product/service it offers, where located, how it and Mom are doing today, etc.? I was / am way proud of my mom. Great inspsiration and role model. I prefered her working over stay-at-home moms who - at least some -- seemed to be going bored, obessive about kids, and lives focussed on the trivial. taxes were low, [snip] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
babajii_99@ writes:
Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and
more
over the top..
I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution.
Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity;
Their level of compassion.
We've seen the enemy and it is us.
Look at the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous
violence in westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite
shallow scripts, overt racism
overt racism on TV?
Even in the '50s?
Although I may have been born too late ('55) or they never showed it
in reruns, I never remember seeing overt racism on TV.
Can you give us some examples?
and gender bias on TV, AND 3 F**king BW
low res channels..
Today, there is far more choice, a number of really well written
and
acted shows, with thought provoking themes. I'd much rather have
kids
navigating this environment than the TV wasteland of the 60's.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? No, apparently it was an unwanted pass at an underling employee. It's called sexual harrassment. Not mutually exclusive, of course. O-J said it was unstressing. He also said unstressing was no excuse. It probably is an excuse, a phony one, if you are not in heavy long term rounding. Maybe I didn't make myself clear, or maybe you didn't read what he wrote. He said it was *not* an excuse, i.e., he was not excusing the bad behavior on the grounds that he was unstressing. There's a difference between an excuse and an explanation. If you want to claim it was a phony explanation, fine. But phony or not, he was not using the explanation as an excuse. While I get your point, I would argue that in this case, excuse and explanation overlap a bit. Sure, an explanation can be used as an excuse. Why did he bring unstressing up? Was he implying that he was unstressing, but still had 100% control of his actions and takes 100% responsibility for them? Well, that gets into the whole issue of the nature of free will. I don't think this case needs to be that complicated. Let's say for the sake of argument that he could have chosen to restrain himself. Perhaps he's saying it was more difficult to make that choice because of the unstressing, but he still could have made it if he had exerted the extra effort, and he takes responsibility for not having made it. If so, why mention unstressing.Its irrelevant if one is claiming the above. Maybe, but it's only human, just as was his failure to restrain himself. Does he have to be 100% perfect? The purpose in mentioning unstressing, IMO, is to garner sympathy, and to implicitly make the case that he did not have 100% control of his actions and thus cannot take 100% responsibility for them. To me he is weaving the implicit arguement that, I was unstressing. I only had PARTIAL control of my actions and thus can only takes partial responsibility for them. Unstessing IS a reality. Have pity on me. I am a VICTIM of unstressing. Sure. But you can take responsibility for allowing yourself to be a victim of unstressing, in the sense of not making the extra effort to restrain yourself from doing something bad and stupid and then having to take the consequences. But the deeper reason I think its a phony explanation, as stated in an adjacent post, heavy unstressing is most usually a phenomenon of heavy rounding. He was not heavily rounding as far as I can see. Oh, for pete's sake, unstressing can happen at any time, whether you're rounding or not. It's more likely to happen during heavy rounding, but any given meditation session, during rounding or not, can wake up an elephant. I hold no particular brief for O-J; he may be a thoroughgoing cad for all I know. But the issue of taking responsibility is interesting in the abstract. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] I Was Not Naked Parsing? Redux I did not break any US drug laws?
DOJ said and I was not naked. [when I made made the pass. aka rudely and inappropriately hit on the woman (whom he employed? -- was he running the course?] We all have become jaded and wise to parsed statements. If not in college, if not in crafting TMO press releases, if not in writing post-TMO resumes, if not thru watergate, then certainly we got a bit more streetwise after clinton. When asked about drug use in his college years, Bill said, I did not break any US drug laws. Of course the question had to do with drug use in Oxford (UK) and thus his response sounds ok to the casual reader /listener, but is a joke of evasion for anyone tuned in. DOJ said and I was not naked. [when inappropriately hitting on the woman]. OK. But David didn't just fall off the turnip truck. He spent decades crafting precise language about TM to enhance the appearance of legitamacy, normaliacy and effectiveness, while down playing, if not avoiding any light to shine, on less publically appealing aspects of TM. So when he makes a parsed statement like and I was not naked it raises questions. OK, you were not naked. What other possible statements are consistent with this but not ones he would wish to disclose explicitly: I was just in boxers shorts and my wing wang was hanging out the slit in the front. I just had a t-shirt on. I was still wearing soxs Perhaps, and I was not naked was just a simply phrased, innocent, recollection of his account of what happened. But along with his, IMO, phony unstressing explanation, and the implicit, This was the FIRST and ONLY time I EVER did this, it just makes the whole package of accounts and explanations continue to stink up the place a bit. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 9:36:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still do. Have in my last three homes.What?! Texas is not such a paradise?neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, still very much well and alive in many areas. Sorry to hear its not inTexas. Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 9:36:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still do. Have in my last three homes. What?! Texas is not such a paradise? neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, still very much well and alive in many areas. Sorry to hear its not in Texas. Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here? Not at all. I have noted with pleasure and anticipation of your comments how wonderful Texas is, particularly Austin. I have only been to Texas 3-4 times on short business trips. People seemed nice. weather sucked some. But based on your comments, I have put Austin on my list of possible cities to visit or even live (for a while.) Thus I was surprised and saddened to hear of its problems -- problems I don't generally find in places I have lived. And, in fun, I was pulling your chain a bit to see if you would react. Mission accomplished. haha. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] 60's TV Stereotyping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
babajii_99@ writes:
Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and
more
over the top..
I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution.
Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity;
Their level of compassion.
We've seen the enemy and it is us.
Look at the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous
violence in westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite
shallow scripts, overt racism
overt racism on TV?
Even in the '50s?
Although I may have been born too late ('55) or they never showed it
in reruns, I never remember seeing overt racism on TV.
r
Can you give us some examples?
My wording was too sharp. Stereotyping is more what I had in mind,
which might be cast as often unintnentional but implicit racism.
And much gender stereo-typing in limited domains.
But the line is fuzzier when one includes a lot of films from 30s and
40s shown on TV in 50's and 60s. Stronger stereotyping in some roles
(dumb maids, no counter balancing roles, etc) may have been more overt
racism.
I was not referring to Amos and Andy -- which in my memory was a
sweet, funny, human slice of life -- not racist or demeaning in my
memory. But I have not looked at it again with adult and modern eyes.
and gender bias on TV, AND 3 F**king BW
low res channels..
Today, there is far more choice, a number of really well written
and
acted shows, with thought provoking themes. I'd much rather have
kids
navigating this environment than the TV wasteland of the 60's.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 11:17:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here?Not at all. I have noted with pleasure and anticipation of yourcomments how wonderful Texas is, particularly Austin. I have only beento Texas 3-4 times on short business trips. People seemed nice.weather sucked some. But based on your comments, I have put Austin onmy list of possible cities to visit or even live (for a while.)Thus I was surprised and saddened to hear of its problems -- problemsI don't generally find in places I have lived. And, in fun, I was pulling your chain a bit to see if you would react.Mission accomplished. haha. :) Sorry, I don't live in Austin and I don't recall ever posting anything about how "wonderful" Texas is although I wouldn't want to live any other place. As far as changes in American culture in the latter half of the twentieth century I would say it is a pretty common experience to some degree or another most everywhere in the country but more so in larger population areas. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 10:53:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Look at
the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous violence in
westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite shallow
scripts, overt racism"overt racism" on TV?Even in the
'50s?Although I may have been born too late ('55) or they never showed
it in reruns, I never remember seeing overt racism on TV.
Can you give us some examples?
I do remember watching Amos and Andy as a child and loved it.
Supposedly the NAACP some how or another got it taken off the air. However
Sanford and Son wasn't any better, maybe even more stereotypical, yet is
considered classic black comedy. As for the Westerns and Cop shows of the
fifties, they dealt with themes of morality teaching the bad guy is a loser and
the good guy is the winner. Today you'll often find that crime pays as a theme.
As for the gratuitous violence, there is just as much today andit was not
near as graphic as it is portrayed today.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 11:17:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here? Not at all. I have noted with pleasure and anticipation of your comments how wonderful Texas is, particularly Austin. I have only been to Texas 3-4 times on short business trips. People seemed nice. weather sucked some. But based on your comments, I have put Austin on my list of possible cities to visit or even live (for a while.) Thus I was surprised and saddened to hear of its problems -- problems I don't generally find in places I have lived. And, in fun, I was pulling your chain a bit to see if you would react. Mission accomplished. haha. :) Sorry, I don't live in Austin and I don't recall ever posting anything about how wonderful Texas is Um, in some Tom Pall posts on how great texas/austin were, I clearly remember you chimming in. Maybe I blurred Tom's great enthusiasm for Austin for your oveall endorsement for Texas. although I wouldn't want to live any other place. OK. So I made the point that you liked texas and you confirmed it. I don't see an point of disagreement. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
babajii_99@ writes:
Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more and
more
over the top..
I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution.
Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity;
Their level of compassion.
We've seen the enemy and it is us.
Look at the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous
violence in westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite
shallow scripts, overt racism
overt racism on TV?
Even in the '50s?
Although I may have been born too late ('55) or they never showed it
in reruns, I never remember seeing overt racism on TV.
r
Can you give us some examples?
My wording was too sharp. Stereotyping is more what I had in mind,
which might be cast as often unintnentional but implicit racism.
And much gender stereo-typing in limited domains.
I was thinking of the portrayal of Native Americans, and to some
extent Mexicans, when thinking of overt racism.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: While I get your point, I would argue that in this case, excuse and explanation overlap a bit. Sure, an explanation can be used as an excuse. Why did he bring unstressing up? Was he implying that he was unstressing, but still had 100% control of his actions and takes 100% responsibility for them? Well, that gets into the whole issue of the nature of free will. I don't think this case needs to be that complicated. Let's say for the sake of argument that he could have chosen to restrain himself. Perhaps he's saying it was more difficult to make that choice because of the unstressing, but he still could have made it if he had exerted the extra effort, and he takes responsibility for not having made it. OK. Food for thought. The purpose in mentioning unstressing, IMO, is to garner sympathy, and to implicitly make the case that he did not have 100% control of his actions and thus cannot take 100% responsibility for them. To me he is weaving the implicit arguement that, I was unstressing. I only had PARTIAL control of my actions and thus can only takes partial responsibility for them. Unstessing IS a reality. Have pity on me. I am a VICTIM of unstressing. Sure. But you can take responsibility for allowing yourself to be a victim of unstressing, in the sense of not making the extra effort to restrain yourself from doing something bad and stupid and then having to take the consequences. OK. But if one is allowing yourself to be a victim of unstressing, we are into excuse land IMO. But the deeper reason I think its a phony explanation, as stated in an adjacent post, heavy unstressing is most usually a phenomenon heavy rounding. He was not heavily rounding as far as I can see. Oh, for pete's sake, unstressing can happen at any time, whether you're rounding or not. It's more likely to happen during heavy rounding, but any given meditation session, during rounding or not, can wake up an elephant. Which is a nice segue to make an important point. There are many levels of unstressing. Sure some low level unstressing goes on in the field, in daily life.,TM 2x. But my implicit point, now being made explicitly, is that low-level unstressing is not debilitating, it is a nussance, but not a thing (all but thereally unstable) can't easily deal with. Its like a small headache. Or one beer. One can maintain to use stoner lingo. One still has full control of their rational faculties. Know right from wrong, knowing one is inappropriately hitting on someone (an employee?) is not diminished. Diminshied capacity is not credible plea. Using the analogy you cited, huge deep seated elephants DON'T suddenly riseup and start charging full speed IN DAY TO DAY tm/2x routine, in the field. They slowly wake up, maybe crap a little here and there day by day, but its gradual and low level. Especially with asanas, pranayam, siddhis (especially flying -- which IME eats up unstressing),feeling body, ayur-ved med, ayur-ved self- oil massage, ayur-ved treatments, yagyas, listening to ved, etc. AND after 30 years, the wild-ass crazy surface elephants that can be awakened in TM 2x/day have all been zapped. I emphasized heavy unstressing which is pretty much limited to heavy rounding courses. In heavy unstressing, in some extreme cases, one might be able to make a reasonable case for diminished capacity, not fully recognizing right from wrong, the mind and intellect not having full control of actions, etc. Basically the temporaty insanity defense. My point, DOJ was not in heavy rounding, he was not heavily unstressing, he cannot plead diminished capacity. At worst (best?) he was experiencing low level unstressing. Of anyone (PHD in psych, 25 years in TMO, lots of time around MMY, well versed in TM research) he knew the symptoms well, and knew how to deal with them. I hold no particular brief for O-J; he may be a thoroughgoing cad for all I know. But the issue of taking responsibility is interesting in the abstract. Yes, its an interesting issue IMO. Thats why it caught my attention. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Was Not Naked Parsing? Redux I did not break any US drug laws?
Really well expressed. Really hit the mark. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DOJ said and I was not naked. [when I made made the pass. aka rudely and inappropriately hit on the woman (whom he employed? -- was he running the course?] We all have become jaded and wise to parsed statements. If not in college, if not in crafting TMO press releases, if not in writing post-TMO resumes, if not thru watergate, then certainly we got a bit more streetwise after clinton. When asked about drug use in his college years, Bill said, I did not break any US drug laws. Of course the question had to do with drug use in Oxford (UK) and thus his response sounds ok to the casual reader /listener, but is a joke of evasion for anyone tuned in. DOJ said and I was not naked. [when inappropriately hitting on the woman]. OK. But David didn't just fall off the turnip truck. He spent decades crafting precise language about TM to enhance the appearance of legitamacy, normaliacy and effectiveness, while down playing, if not avoiding any light to shine, on less publically appealing aspects of TM. So when he makes a parsed statement like and I was not naked it raises questions. OK, you were not naked. What other possible statements are consistent with this but not ones he would wish to disclose explicitly: I was just in boxers shorts and my wing wang was hanging out the slit in the front. I just had a t-shirt on. I was still wearing soxs Perhaps, and I was not naked was just a simply phrased, innocent, recollection of his account of what happened. But along with his, IMO, phony unstressing explanation, and the implicit, This was the FIRST and ONLY time I EVER did this, it just makes the whole package of accounts and explanations continue to stink up the place a bit. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 9:36:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still do. Have in my last three homes. What?! Texas is not such a paradise? neighbors actually knew each other and helped each other, still very much well and alive in many areas. Sorry to hear its not in Texas. Ooooh, do I detect regional bigotry here? Regional bigotry. First time this issue has come up on this forum, as I can recall. And one practiclly never hears about it in the media. But as an outsider who came to the U.S. I have noticed -- even before I emigrated here when I made numerous visits to the U.S. throughout my life, like most Canadians -- regional bigotry against the South from Northerners. Not only have I noticed this in personal interactions but it is really prevalent on TV. Does anyone from the South on this forum feel the same way? Or am I the only one who has noticed this? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:10:19 P.M. Central Daylight
Time,
babajii_99@ writes:
Look at what passes for entertainment- it's getting more
and
more
over the top..
I worry about the kids growing up in this pollution.
Their attitudes toward sex; their attitude toward humanity;
Their level of compassion.
We've seen the enemy and it is us.
Look at the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous
violence in westerns and cop shows, and for the most part --
quite
shallow scripts, overt racism
overt racism on TV?
Even in the '50s?
Although I may have been born too late ('55) or they never
showed it
in reruns, I never remember seeing overt racism on TV.
r
Can you give us some examples?
My wording was too sharp. Stereotyping is more what I had in mind,
which might be cast as often unintnentional but implicit racism.
And much gender stereo-typing in limited domains.
But the line is fuzzier when one includes a lot of films from 30s
and
40s shown on TV in 50's and 60s. Stronger stereotyping in some
roles
(dumb maids, no counter balancing roles, etc) may have been more
overt
racism.
I've often found the opposite from that era. Yes, minorities would
play maids but they were far from dumb. Often they would be the
wise-cracking character who knew and expressed the truth about a
situation.
Kinda like the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz. Sure, he was after a
brain but if you'll notice, he's the one that comes up with all the
good ideas and insights throughout the movie.
I was not referring to Amos and Andy -- which in my memory was a
sweet, funny, human slice of life -- not racist or demeaning in my
memory. But I have not looked at it again with adult
and modern eyes.
and gender bias on TV, AND 3 F**king BW
low res channels..
Today, there is far more choice, a number of really well
written
and
acted shows, with thought provoking themes. I'd much rather
have
kids
navigating this environment than the TV wasteland of the 60's.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Of course, this is the same guy who was attempting a bit of the old in-out in-out with females not his wife, so who knows? And your reason for assuming that the rumor is true is...? When he saw the rumor that he was running around with other women being discussed here, Orme-Johnson confirmed that he had once made a pass at a kitchen worker (I believe it was) on a course. Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? Heavy duty unstressing was a phenomenon of long meditation , particualrly pre-rounding (asanas,pranayam, tm). Further lessened with walk and talks, buddy systems, better food, etc. Real, heavy duty unstressing is not usually a field phenomenon for people doing regular program. Was DOJ transported from the middle of a 6 month long rounding course to this kitchen? Was he even rounding on this FL course? While real, heavy duty unstressing is not usually a field phenomenon for people doing regular program, IT CAN be used as an excuse. MMY was once asked if the recent rude behavior of someone was unstressing. He said no, just bad manners Dunno the answers to your questsion. Perhaps Orme-Johnson was simply making excuses for himself, OR, perhaps he was going through the old midlife crisis, OR perhaps he really was unstressing. HE says he was. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Of course, this is the same guy who was attempting a bit of the old in-out in-out with females not his wife, so who knows? And your reason for assuming that the rumor is true is...? When he saw the rumor that he was running around with other women being discussed here, Orme-Johnson confirmed that he had once made a pass at a kitchen worker (I believe it was) on a course. Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? No, apparently it was an unwanted pass at an underling employee. It's called sexual harrassment. Not mutually exclusive, of course. O-J said it was unstressing. He also said unstressing was no excuse. It probably is an excuse, a phony one, if you are not in heavy long term rounding. And are a 30 year meditator. And have been full time in the movement for 25 years and know the signs of real heavy unstressing. Was his neck snapping violetly from side to side when he hit on her? :) (HAHAHA, THATS a funny image.!) Bah. Now you're able to judge the validity of someone's unstressing? What about someone who ends up screaming or crying DURING meditation for no apparent reason? Is that unstressing? What about someone who has always had a rep of being a mild-mannered person, who suddenly starts taking a swing at another mild-mannered person? Is THAT unstressing? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Nor the grapevine. I had heard stories about DOJ hitting on woman before. Maybe false rumor -- who knows -- but where there is smoke, probabilisticaly speaking there is usually fire. I had a bad reputation in the SCA because I used to bill myself as the apprentice of the most imfamous lecher in the local barony. We even looked somewhat alike. Since I didn't lose my virginity til after I left the SCA, and most people were aware that I was a virgin while I was in, everyone just laughed at the joke. When I came back from the USAF, I looked almost exactly like the guy (25 extra pounds) and everyone assumed that I was serious when I made the same joke. Women absolutely hated me because of my womanizing ways and all that. For the record, I never dated a single woman in the SCA, EVER, so how they ever concluded I deserved my rep is beyond me. It ties to his statement about trying and evaluating most meditation methods. Just doesn't ring true to me -- having seen and heard him a lot in the 70's aropund MIU. 40 years ago was 1966. MIU started in 1972. That's 8 years of experimenting, eh? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Was Not Naked Parsing? Redux I did not break any US drug laws?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really well expressed. Really hit the mark. Thanks. And btw, I really like Bill Clinton. (And I like DOJ as a person and teacher). But I have learned not to right away trust anything that comes out of Bill's mouth. I let it fall to the ground, kick the tires, check its underbelly, poke it a few times to see if it rears up, snarls, and tries to bite. I check to see if it has all its teeth, and if they are straight. And I smell the critter to see if it reeks. If after sometime, I find the critter has some likable qualities, and is not prone to trickery or treachery, I let it into the screened front porch area. Only after a long probation do I let it into the house. And I think Bill would laugh heartily at that description and sentiment. I think he was one of our smarter presidents. With a flexible and fluid mind -- that is willing to change it with new evidence, logic, or insight. Not tied to some dogma in a non-thinking swamp state of mind as some presidents have been. But he had major flaws. Too bad he used part of his talents and attention in unseemly ways (of which I really don't need a recounting --I am aware of them.) In that, he really let the country down, IMO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Of course, this is the same guy who was attempting a bit of the old in-out in-out with females not his wife, so who knows? And your reason for assuming that the rumor is true is...? When he saw the rumor that he was running around with other women being discussed here, Orme-Johnson confirmed that he had once made a pass at a kitchen worker (I believe it was) on a course. Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? Heavy duty unstressing was a phenomenon of long meditation , particualrly pre-rounding (asanas,pranayam, tm). Further lessened with walk and talks, buddy systems, better food, etc. Real, heavy duty unstressing is not usually a field phenomenon for people doing regular program. Was DOJ transported from the middle of a 6 month long rounding course to this kitchen? Was he even rounding on this FL course? While real, heavy duty unstressing is not usually a field phenomenon for people doing regular program, IT CAN be used as an excuse. MMY was once asked if the recent rude behavior of someone was unstressing. He said no, just bad manners Dunno the answers to your questsion. Perhaps Orme-Johnson was simply making excuses for himself, OR, perhaps he was going through the old midlife crisis, OR perhaps he really was unstressing. HE says he was. Perhaps he simply did a wrong thing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip Of course, this is the same guy who was attempting a bit of the old in-out in-out with females not his wife, so who knows? And your reason for assuming that the rumor is true is...? When he saw the rumor that he was running around with other women being discussed here, Orme-Johnson confirmed that he had once made a pass at a kitchen worker (I believe it was) on a course. Wasn't that a heavy duty unstressing thing? No, apparently it was an unwanted pass at an underling employee. It's called sexual harrassment. Not mutually exclusive, of course. O-J said it was unstressing. He also said unstressing was no excuse. It probably is an excuse, a phony one, if you are not in heavy long term rounding. And are a 30 year meditator. And have been full time in the movement for 25 years and know the signs of real heavy unstressing. Was his neck snapping violetly from side to side when he hit on her? :) (HAHAHA, THATS a funny image.!) Bah. Now you're able to judge the validity of someone's unstressing? Um, the image is a bit of a joke. When someones sense of humor shuts down, is that unstressing? Who said anything about judging the validity of judge someone's unstressing? My point, see adjacent post responding to judy, is that TM/2x may cause low level unstressing. Thats valid. Its not something that severly diminishes capacity. I am not usre how much long meditation (done prior to the advent of rounding or long rounding you have done, or courses of such you have conducted. Its my experience and obsevation that really heavy unstressing, the type that can result in real diminished capacticy, amongst stable peopele happens almost only on long rounding -- and then is pretty rare as a percentage of all rounders. What about someone who ends up screaming or crying DURING meditation for no apparent reason? Is that unstressing? What about someone who has always had a rep of being a mild-mannered person, who suddenly starts taking a swing at another mild-mannered person? Is THAT unstressing? Um, dunno. Are these hypotheticals or real events. I would not jump to the conclusion that either are unstressing. Certainly not diminished capacity unstressing. Lots of rudeness, stupidity, bad behavior and ego tripping occur everyday all over the world which have nothing to do with TM. I have seen lots of people who ends up screaming or crying DURING meditation for no apparent reason -- and then go on to giggle a few min later. That is in pre-no noise siddhi days. I have seen someone who has always had a rep of being a mild-mannered person, who suddenly starts taking a swing at another mild-mannered person and it has nothing to do with TM. Lots of factors can trigger crap like that. Try eating pankoors at a bad dive of a take-out indian restaurant fried in old rancid oil and see how that effects you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Why Islam is a more honest religion than Christianity
Both Christianity and Islam are My religion is the only way religions. Both basically say: unless you believe the way MY religion says you have to believe, you will burn in hell for all eternity. With Christians when they say that you'll burn in hell for all eternity they say at the same time that they love you and that Jesus loves you. With Islam, they cut right to the chase...they don't mamby-pamby around: if you're not Muslim, you're downright evil. And even the two peoples closest to Islam -- the people of The Book, namely, Christians and Jews -- even they are downright evil. So who's more honest...Muslims or Christians? I say Muslims because if you're going to burn in hell for all eternity -- which both religions claim if you don't sign up with them -- I don't want somebody sugar-coating things for me while I'm down here on Earth like the Christians do. Hey, I want the message drilled into me that I'm evil and that I'm an ape or a devil. I don't want some ass-hole knocking at my door telling me God loves me when he obviously doesn't (or else he wouldn't be sending me to Hell for all eternity). Muslims don't sugarcoat; they tell it like it is. -- The Swine are Christians and the Apes are Jews By Robert Spencer FrontPageMagazine.com | May 23, 2006 A recent article in the Washington Post, written by Nina Shea of Freedom House, laid bare Saudi hypocrisy in claiming to have removed hateful material from textbooks, when in fact that material remains in abundance. This is not just an issue within the Kingdom, for the Saudis export such material in large quantities to Muslims in other countries. But the article points to a deeper problem one that Western authorities sooner or later will have to deal with: much of the objectionable material is actually derived from the Muslim holy book, the Qur'an, and from Hadith (traditions of the Muslim Prophet Muhammad considered authentic by Muslims and for them second only to the Qur'an in importance). To shy away from pointing out the deep Islamic roots of the material leads one to the impression that this material originates with the Saudi Wahhabis, when in fact it is a much broader problem within the Islamic community worldwide. If Freedom House and its allies were somehow to succeed in getting the Saudis to stop teaching this sort of thing in Saudi Arabia and around the world (and I hope they do succeed), they will be surprised to find that the problem hasn't thereby disappeared. Nina Shea's article declares: A review of a sample of official Saudi textbooks for Islamic studies used during the current academic year reveals that, despite the Saudi government's statements to the contrary, an ideology of hatred toward Christians and Jews and Muslims who do not follow Wahhabi doctrine remains in this area of the public school system. The texts teach a dualistic vision, dividing the world into true believers of Islam (the `monotheists') and unbelievers (the `polytheists' and `infidels'). It provides numerous examples, all of which in fact show that what is being taught is not some heretical Wahhabi doctrine, but a reasonable summation of teachings found in the Qur'an and Hadith. The blockquotes below are from the Saudi textbooks as reported by Shea; interspersed are relevant Qur'anic verses and other material showing that all this is not just Wahhabi invention: FIRST GRADE Every religion other than Islam is false. Fill in the blanks with the appropriate words (Islam, hellfire): Every religion other than __ is false. Whoever dies outside of Islam enters . This is straight from the Qur'an: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good) (3:85). FOURTH GRADE True belief means . . . that you hate the polytheists and infidels but do not treat them unjustly. Again, this is straight from the Qur'an: Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves (48:29). Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell- Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures (98:6). FIFTH GRADE Whoever obeys the Prophet and accepts the oneness of God cannot maintain a loyal friendship with those who oppose God and His Prophet, even if they are his closest relatives. It is forbidden for a Muslim to be a loyal friend to someone who does not believe in God and His Prophet, or someone who fights the religion of Islam. A Muslim, even if he lives far away, is your brother in religion. Someone who opposes God, even if he is your brother by family tie, is your enemy in religion. Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Was Not Naked Parsing? Redux I did not break any US drug laws?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Really well expressed. Really hit the mark. Thanks. And btw, I really like Bill Clinton. (And I like DOJ as a person and teacher). But I have learned not to right away trust anything that comes out of Bill's mouth. I let it fall to the ground, kick the tires, check its underbelly, poke it a few times to see if it rears up, snarls, and tries to bite. I check to see if it has all its teeth, and if they are straight. And I smell the critter to see if it reeks. If after sometime, I find the critter has some likable qualities, and is not prone to trickery or treachery, I let it into the screened front porch area. Only after a long probation do I let it into the house. And I think Bill would laugh heartily at that description and sentiment. I think he was one of our smarter presidents. With a flexible and fluid mind -- that is willing to change it with new evidence, logic, or insight. Not tied to some dogma in a non-thinking swamp state of mind as some presidents have been. But he had major flaws. Too bad he used part of his talents and attention in unseemly ways (of which I really don't need a recounting --I am aware of them.) In that, he really let the country down, IMO. I like Clinton alot too. But probably for totally different reasons than anyone else on this forum, especially Billie Batts who likes him pretty much only because he's a Democrat. I like him because he presided over the most conservative agenda of any president in the 20th century, including Ronald Reagan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: [...] Nor the grapevine. I had heard stories about DOJ hitting on woman before. Maybe false rumor -- who knows -- but where there is smoke, probabilisticaly speaking there is usually fire. I had a bad reputation in the SCA because I used to bill myself as the apprentice of the most imfamous lecher in the local barony. We even looked somewhat alike. Since I didn't lose my virginity til after I left the SCA, and most people were aware that I was a virgin while I was in, everyone just laughed at the joke. When I came back from the USAF, I looked almost exactly like the guy (25 extra pounds) and everyone assumed that I was serious when I made the same joke. Women absolutely hated me because of my womanizing ways and all that. For the record, I never dated a single woman in the SCA, EVER, so how they ever concluded I deserved my rep is beyond me. OK. I agree that where there is smoke, there is not ALWAYs fire. But there is a high probability that there is. It ties to his statement about trying and evaluating most meditation methods. Just doesn't ring true to me -- having seen and heard him a lot in the 70's aropund MIU. 40 years ago was 1966. MIU started in 1972. That's 8 years of experimenting, eh? Well, tm has done wonders for your math skills. (1972-1966= 6). I have done the same math as you (though more accurately :) ).Maybe you missed the post. Ft Bliss and all. But you are missing the point. If DOJ did most meditation techniques from 1966-1970 -- four years, 1) that is only a small slice of what is available today and his comments were referencing those available today. 2) IMO, if he was heavily into other medititions 66-70, then he would have mentioned that, made reference to that, cited them, discussed them, formally and informally at MIU in 73-75 when theings were free and open. He made videos for two detailed psych /SCI courses that I sat in on. Lots of side discussions occurred. If he had extensive experience of other techniques, it was a ripe environment to bring them up. Never a peep as far as I recall. Doesn't prove he wasn't a med junkie 66-70 but to me is indicative that he was not. 3) Assume 10 prominent techniques avalable 66-70. Best case, thats less than 5 months per technique. More likely 2-3 at best. Not a comprehensive evaluation, IMO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate 40 years ago was 1966. MIU started in 1972. That's 8 years of experimenting, eh? Well, tm has done wonders for your math skills. (1972-1966= 6). I have done the same math as you (though more accurately :) ).Maybe you missed the post. Ft Bliss and all. But you are missing the point. If DOJ did most meditation techniques from 1966-1970 -- four years, 1) that is only a small slice of what is available today and his comments were referencing those available today. 2) IMO, if he was heavily into other medititions 66-70, then he would have mentioned that, made reference to that, cited them, discussed them, formally and informally at MIU in 73-75 when theings were free and open. He made videos for two detailed psych /SCI courses that I sat in on. Lots of side discussions occurred. If he had extensive experience of other techniques, it was a ripe environment to bring them up. Never a peep as far as I recall. Doesn't prove he wasn't a med junkie 66-70 but to me is indicative that he was not. 3) Assume 10 prominent techniques avalable 66-70. Best case, thats less than 5 months per technique. More likely 2-3 at best. Not a comprehensive evaluation, IMO. But this is all mere speculation. Which has severe limits. Which I think we all past a while ago. So if this is a matter of great value and interest (perhaps quite a hard case to make) why not contact him and ask him to detail out his extensive experience and evaluation of most all other meditation techniques available today. $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual resume. What does your $10 say? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 9:36:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the 60's we had 2-3 in my class. Girls usually left school. Shame,lots of whispering and crude jokes about the girl. Today, girls go toschool, proud to be (becoming) mothers, taking pre-natal classes.Seems much healthier today.fathers took care of their families, Still do. Any fathers here NOT take care of their families? So"healthy" that it has almost become popular. I have seenstats that say about 80% of black children born today are to single mothers and about 30% of white children are born to single mothers.While only about 30% of unwed mothers are teens, only one in five get any support from the fathers. The tax payers ends up taking care of the those children at a tune of over 7 billion a year or about $3,200. a year for each teenage birth. This says nothing about the increase of crime from the children that grow up in a one of these "homes". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
In a message dated 5/26/06 11:53:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking of the portrayal of Native Americans, and to someextent Mexicans, when thinking of overt racism. Ah yes , Poncho and Cisco and Tonto. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
I spent a month with him in 1979 and remember David as uniquely humble and personable for one of the higher ups. He had that Reagan skill of the awe shucks likability. He is also smart as a whip which leads me to my next point. I don't buy the I tried other techniques line. It was a credibility builder line for a scientist turned advocate. My question for David would be about his promoting research on TM that I believe he knows with his scientific training is not proving what is claimed. David was in a position to know if he was promoting bogus research. Teachers looked to him as a solid source of scientific perspective. If he compromised that standard for his advocacy position of TM, that is a much more serious beach of ethics than getting a boner in the food line. Did he decide that the ends justified the means? Now if the TM research is all beyond reproach...then David was just promoting something he sincerely believed in. Only he will ever know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate 40 years ago was 1966. MIU started in 1972. That's 8 years of experimenting, eh? Well, tm has done wonders for your math skills. (1972-1966= 6). I have done the same math as you (though more accurately :) ).Maybe you missed the post. Ft Bliss and all. But you are missing the point. If DOJ did most meditation techniques from 1966-1970 -- four years, 1) that is only a small slice of what is available today and his comments were referencing those available today. 2) IMO, if he was heavily into other medititions 66-70, then he would have mentioned that, made reference to that, cited them, discussed them, formally and informally at MIU in 73-75 when theings were free and open. He made videos for two detailed psych /SCI courses that I sat in on. Lots of side discussions occurred. If he had extensive experience of other techniques, it was a ripe environment to bring them up. Never a peep as far as I recall. Doesn't prove he wasn't a med junkie 66-70 but to me is indicative that he was not. 3) Assume 10 prominent techniques avalable 66-70. Best case, thats less than 5 months per technique. More likely 2-3 at best. Not a comprehensive evaluation, IMO. But this is all mere speculation. Which has severe limits. Which I think we all past a while ago. So if this is a matter of great value and interest (perhaps quite a hard case to make) why not contact him and ask him to detail out his extensive experience and evaluation of most all other meditation techniques available today. $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual resume. What does your $10 say? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual resume. What does your $10 say? And $10 says DOJ was not fully clothed with all body parts apprpriately placed, and thus And I was not naked was a parsed evasion of something. And $10 says DOJ's pass [such a quaint word for inappropriate and rude hitting on women] was not his first pass on TMO women. Betting on FFL? OMG! But it raises some interesting points uncovered in research on betting forums (lots prevail on internet these days and while sports focussed, they do make book on many political, film, music, TV and pop-cultural events). Betting forums are better predictors than polls. People have no vested interest in polls and thus don't work hard or dig deep to come up with their response. In betting, people do. So it would be interesting to supplant opinions with bets on the many critical issues [smirk] FFL's daily speculate and opine upon. Thus, betting could sharpen up the truth and reality quotient of claims made and opinions presented on FFL. And proceeds could be donated to some good seva cause(s). Just an idea. Any bets on if it will happen? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 11:53:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking of the portrayal of Native Americans, and to some extent Mexicans, when thinking of overt racism. Ah yes , Poncho and Cisco and Tonto. Exactly Kimosabe. And lot of westerns with really depraved views of Indians. (Though when some shots showed them wearing tennis shoes, how serious could you take it.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 1:33:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But as an outsider who came to the U.S. I have noticed -- even before I emigrated here when I made numerous visits to the U.S. throughout my life, like most Canadians -- regional bigotry against the South from Northerners.Not only have I noticed this in personal interactions but it is really prevalent on TV.Does anyone from the South on this forum feel the same way? Or am I the only one who has noticed this? We see it all the time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
In a message dated 5/26/06 1:37:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've often found the opposite from that era. Yes, minorities would play maids but they were far from dumb. Often they would be the wise-cracking character who knew and expressed the truth about a situation. As I recall the maids and servants usually put the boss in their place. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Conservative Clinton, Liberal Nixon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like Clinton alot too. ... I like him because he presided over the most conservative agenda of any president in the 20th century, including Ronald Reagan. So you should love his intellectual and policy legacy, Mr Al Gore!!! And Nixon was a great liberal, a radical liberal in some regards: Price controls to control inflation (so radically far left, no one on the left even dares suggest it today.) Abolished the gold standard (the core of conservative economics for two + centures) Establishing the Environmental Protection Agancy Created the Consumer Product Safety Commission Ending American fighting in Viet Nam Established and extended revenue sharing to the states Ended the draft Opened up China Treaty to limit strategic nuclear weapons Created Detente with USSR Negotiated disengagement agreements between Israel and its opponents, Egypt and Syria Almost endorsed full national decriminalization of marijuana (watergate got in the way). I don't think any domcratic president has come close to accomplishing -- much less proposing -- the breadth and depth of such wide ranging liberal agenda. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual resume. What does your $10 say? And $10 says DOJ was not fully clothed with all body parts apprpriately placed, and thus And I was not naked was a parsed evasion of something. Will you people give it a fuckin' BREAK already? I mean, this is just embarrassing. Do you not have LIVES? The little old ladies in my village don't gossip as much as you do. Like you never did anything stupid in your lives... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:37:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've often found the opposite from that era. Yes, minorities would play maids but they were far from dumb. Often they would be the wise-cracking character who knew and expressed the truth about a situation. As I recall the maids and servants usually put the boss in their place. who specifically? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
In a message dated 5/26/06 3:17:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And lot of westerns with really depraved views of Indians. (Thoughwhen some shots showed them wearing tennis shoes, how serious couldyou take it.) Hey, but that was how Hollywood portrayed injuns. Blame Hollywood for their insensitivity. I always thought the Indians were kool when I was a kid. Never played a cowboy, always the Indian. Never wanted to be a Mexican though yuch! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual resume. What does your $10 say? And $10 says DOJ was not fully clothed with all body parts apprpriately placed, and thus And I was not naked was a parsed evasion of something. Will you people give it a fuckin' BREAK already? I mean, this is just embarrassing. Do you not have LIVES? The little old ladies in my village don't gossip as much as you do. Like you never did anything stupid in your lives... Yeah. I agree. But please tell us about another one of your great conquests of SIMS girls Uncle Turq! Please! Please!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
In a message dated 5/26/06 3:34:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've often found the opposite from that era. Yes, minorities would play maids but they were far from dumb. Often they would be the wise-cracking character who knew and expressed the truth about a situation. As I recall the maids and servants usually put the boss in their place.who specifically? The maid on the Jeffersons, can't think of her name, and Rochester. Of Course Mammie in Gone With the Wind was great. She always had Scarlet figured out and Prissy could piss anybody off with her shuckin n jivan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The little old ladies in my village don't gossip as much as you do. And now you have nothing better to do than rag on nice little old french ladies!? Mon Dieu. Why, are they gossiping about your latest fuck-up in town? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:37:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, shempmcgurk@ writes: I've often found the opposite from that era. Yes, minorities would play maids but they were far from dumb. Often they would be the wise-cracking character who knew and expressed the truth about a situation. As I recall the maids and servants usually put the boss in their place. who specifically? Rochester always seemed to have Jack Benny's number... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:33:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But as an outsider who came to the U.S. I have noticed -- even before I emigrated here when I made numerous visits to the U.S. throughout my life, like most Canadians -- regional bigotry against the South from Northerners. Not only have I noticed this in personal interactions but it is really prevalent on TV. Does anyone from the South on this forum feel the same way? Or am I the only one who has noticed this? We see it all the time. Does it piss you off? 99% of this regional bigotry I see going from North to South but hardly ever from South to North... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conservative Clinton, Liberal Nixon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I like Clinton alot too. ... I like him because he presided over the most conservative agenda of any president in the 20th century, including Ronald Reagan. So you should love his intellectual and policy legacy, Mr Al Gore!!! And Nixon was a great liberal, a radical liberal in some regards: Exactly! It was Nixon who said (paraphrased): When you run for the GOP nomination for President, you campaign from the far right; when you run as the GOP candidate for president, you campaign from slightly right of center; when you're president, you govern from the center. And I would add to your list below: Affirmative Action, which was established under Nixon! Price controls to control inflation (so radically far left, no one on the left even dares suggest it today.) Abolished the gold standard (the core of conservative economics for two + centures) Establishing the Environmental Protection Agancy Created the Consumer Product Safety Commission Ending American fighting in Viet Nam Established and extended revenue sharing to the states Ended the draft Opened up China Treaty to limit strategic nuclear weapons Created Detente with USSR Negotiated disengagement agreements between Israel and its opponents, Egypt and Syria Almost endorsed full national decriminalization of marijuana (watergate got in the way). I don't think any domcratic president has come close to accomplishing -- much less proposing -- the breadth and depth of such wide ranging liberal agenda. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conservative Clinton, Liberal Nixon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I like Clinton alot too. ... I like him because he presided over the most conservative agenda of any president in the 20th century, including Ronald Reagan. So you should love his intellectual and policy legacy, Mr Al Gore!!! Al Gore participated in -- and won by a landslide -- one of the most important debates in the 20th century in defense of and support of the most important conservative policy there is: free trade. Do you remember the infamous Larry King debate between Gore and Ross Perot? This debate did more than anything to get free trade passed in the U.S. Congress. And people forget that at the time, free trade was VERY unpopular with the Democrat base: the labor unions. At the time they said: we will remember Gore and Clinton at election time (meaning '96) and we'll make sure they never get re-elected. Well, we know what happened there. However, I am NOT a fan of Gore's now, what with his fear-mongering about the non-existent global warming due to fossil-fuels (of which there is ZERO evidence). And Nixon was a great liberal, a radical liberal in some regards: Price controls to control inflation (so radically far left, no one on the left even dares suggest it today.) Abolished the gold standard (the core of conservative economics for two + centures) Establishing the Environmental Protection Agancy Created the Consumer Product Safety Commission Ending American fighting in Viet Nam Established and extended revenue sharing to the states Ended the draft Opened up China Treaty to limit strategic nuclear weapons Created Detente with USSR Negotiated disengagement agreements between Israel and its opponents, Egypt and Syria Almost endorsed full national decriminalization of marijuana (watergate got in the way). I don't think any domcratic president has come close to accomplishing -- much less proposing -- the breadth and depth of such wide ranging liberal agenda. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conservative Clinton, Liberal Nixon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about the non-existent global warming due to fossil-fuels (of which there is ZERO evidence). Apparently zero evidence that you have seen digested, or understood. Even Michael Crichton would not make a statement as radical or uninformed as that. How much fossil fuels contibute to weather effects is a debate, though the range of disagreement is shrinking (along with the ozone layer,haha). As is exactly in which ways CO2 effects weather effects (cooling here, warming there) However that i) fossil fuels create C02, ii) fossil fuels consumption and exhaust has been increased enormously in the past 150 years, and iii) CO2 in the atmosphere, whether natural (volcanos, cow farts, termite effects in rainforest) or fossil fuel based, all create and change the weather --- is pretty indisputable at his point. Even to the Bush White House. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Sexual Practices (was Urdhva-retas?)
Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know the reason why tantriks would be interested in developing such control? - Bhairitu Control! - We don't need no stinkin' control! Seriously, Bhairitu, where did you get the sense of 'control' in what I wrote? It wasn't about control, it was about flow, expansion. It was about relaxing from the state of orgasmic constriction and control that most all of us imbibed unconsciously from our upbringing - family, religious, societal, collective unconscious... And if the reason for overcoming our constrictive orgasmic conditioning and letting this flow develop - to see how big, how divine, how unbound- ed we are, to experience the ecstasy of embodied God-consciousness - was not clear from my essay, I doubt that anything more I say would make it any clearer. Please re-read what I originally wrote, this time from the perspective of REMOVING the old constrictions and control that we're conditioned to experience as arousal develops, as life force flows. Look for descriptions of the development of richer intimacy, more unity with the cosmic flow of life, expansion till we reclaim our status as God/God- dess. See if it makes more sense the second time around. Namaste, Michael PARA - THE CENTER FOR REALIZATION and THE RELATIONSHIP INSTITUTE Michael Dean Goodman Ph.D., D.D., Director Boca Raton (Palm Beach County) Florida 561-350-3930 (24 hours) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Counselor * Author * Speaker/Educator Spiritual guide (ashtanga yoga/meditation, tantra, satsang, ayur veda...) Workshops Retreats * Classes * Private Educational Sessions Clients and programs throughout the United States, Europe, and India Working in person or by phone Free initial consultation to discuss your needs and goals To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:37:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, shempmcgurk@ writes: I've often found the opposite from that era. Yes, minorities would play maids but they were far from dumb. Often they would be the wise-cracking character who knew and expressed the truth about a situation. As I recall the maids and servants usually put the boss in their place. who specifically? Rochester always seemed to have Jack Benny's number... Good one. Though no one would have referred to Rochester as a rocket scientist. And clearly not all blacks are literally rocket scientists. Or whites. The troublesome issue is that in the 50's and 60's blacks roles were almost only servant or bumbling, though perhaps quick tongued, helper roles. Neither a true reflection of society even then -- a quite aparatheid america. And wasn't the inside joke that made Rochester funny (and he was) -- sort of becasue even the dumb black lowly negro servant is dissing Jack. Poor Jack. Jack's travails in the world were what was funny in the show, and various dis's of Jack were part of that. The greater contrast -- or lower the dis -- the funnier. In that day, what was lower or more insulting than being insulted by a (in the role) uneducated, negro servant. Rochester was never portrayed or intended to be Jack's equal. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Sexual Practices (was Urdhva-retas?)
Your family or religious group had regular discussions on orgasmic constriction? Wow! What religion is that? Sal On May 26, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote: It was about relaxing from the state of orgasmic constriction and control that most all of us imbibed unconsciously from our upbringing - family, religious, societal, collective unconscious...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual resume. What does your $10 say? And $10 says DOJ was not fully clothed with all body parts apprpriately placed, and thus And I was not naked was a parsed evasion of something. Will you people give it a fuckin' BREAK already? I mean, this is just embarrassing. Do you not have LIVES? The little old ladies in my village don't gossip as much as you do. Like you never did anything stupid in your lives... That you have entirely missed the main themes of this thread are a bit embarrassing -- but not that surprising. You have never struck me as a particularly careful reader. What interested me, and Judy I think expressed the same, is the structure and dyanmics of explanations / excuses and IMO cover-ups. DOJ provided a specific example upon which to explore these themes. But frankly, I could give a rat's ass about the details of DOJ life (other than wishing him well), particularly his sex life. The sex lives of 65 year olds may hold your attention, but not mine. A second theme, even expressed in the title of the post, is on betting and its predictive value over polling. To me, thats of interest. If not to you, thats fine. But no need to tantrum up the place because you don't care for the topic. S given these themes are too low in your view to put ones attention on, what are the lofty ideas that you think worthy of discussing? The concept of higher ahd lower ideas sort of makes me laugh. At a comment Rory made, So what else better do we have to do between now and eternity. It seems to me what is in ones attention right now is many times more important than some high falutin theme someone else thinks other people should be thinking. But I am open to changing my opinion if you can suggest better themes than what is happening in our minds Right Now. Gosh, maybe we can all sit around and discuss the last episode of Lost. Because, hey someone said it was spiritual so maybe we will all get really spiritual by watching it. Let me know how that one works out for you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:37:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've often found the opposite from that era. Yes, minorities would play maids but they were far from dumb. Often they would be the wise-cracking character who knew and expressed the truth about a situation. As I recall the maids and servants usually put the boss in their place. As did Jeeves. Which I found Bevan engrossed in once. Perhaps it was good therapy for his alter ego. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seva Betting to Reveal the Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate $10 says its not a very comprehensive or impressive spiritual resume. What does your $10 say? And $10 says DOJ was not fully clothed with all body parts apprpriately placed, and thus And I was not naked was a parsed evasion of something. Will you people give it a fuckin' BREAK already? I mean, this is just embarrassing. Do you not have LIVES? The little old ladies in my village don't gossip as much as you do. Like you never did anything stupid in your lives... That you have entirely missed the main themes of this thread is a bit embarrassing -- but not that surprising. You have never struck me as a particularly careful reader. What interested me, and Judy I think expressed the same, is the structure and dyanmics of explanations / excuses, and IMO, cover-ups. DOJ provided a specific example upon which to explore these themes. But frankly, I could give a rat's ass about the details of DOJ life (other than wishing him well), particularly his sex life. The sex lives of 65 year olds may hold your attention, but not mine. A second theme, even expressed in the title of the post, is on betting and its predictive value over polling. To me, thats of interest. If not to you, thats fine. But no need to tantrum up the place because you don't care for the topic. S given these themes are too low in your view to put ones attention on, what are the lofty ideas that you think worthy of discussing? The concept of higher ahd lower ideas sort of makes me laugh at a comment Rory made, So what else better do we have to do between now and eternity. It seems to me what is in ones attention right now is many times more important than some high falutin theme someone else thinks other people should be thinking. But I am open to changing my opinion if you can suggest better themes than what is happening in our minds Right Now. Gosh, maybe we can all sit around and discuss the last episode of Lost. Because, hey someone said it was spiritual so maybe we will all get really spiritual by watching it. Let me know how that one works out for you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] new_morning_blank_slate VERSUS sparaig
Wow, this is extraordinary, there is someone who posts even more than sparaig does! come on sparaig, are you going to let this person get way ahead of you?! stop taking your meds for a week, i'll bet that will dramatically improve your ability to post far more than this new joker! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new_morning_blank_slate VERSUS sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, this is extraordinary, there is someone who posts even more than sparaig does! come on sparaig, are you going to let this person get way ahead of you?! stop taking your meds for a week, i'll bet that will dramatically improve your ability to post far more than this new joker! Another astute and carful reader on FFL. Maybe you and Turq can call each other and discuss your apparent ADHD or whatever prevents more than a 3 second scan of posts -- and a .2 second snap judgment on the content not read. (Call, cuz obviously you could not have a coherent text convo.) Or did you actually have some cogent thoughts about the ideas expressed in the posts? If so -- please by all means raise them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new_morning_blank_slate VERSUS sparaig
If cogent thoughts were a requirement in this group, New, none of us would ever post. :) Sal On May 26, 2006, at 5:09 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: Or did you actually have some cogent thoughts about the ideas expressed in the posts? If so -- please by all means raise them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] new_morning_blank_slate VERSUS sparaig
I think they're competing with each other to see who can get the 100,000th post. I'll put my $$ on Spare. Sal On May 26, 2006, at 5:02 PM, shirleybrahman wrote: Wow, this is extraordinary, there is someone who posts even more than sparaig does! come on sparaig, are you going to let this person get way ahead of you?! stop taking your meds for a week, i'll bet that will dramatically improve your ability to post far more than this new joker!
[FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/26/06 10:53:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Look at the entertainment we had growing up. Lots of gratuitous
violence in westerns and cop shows, and for the most part -- quite
shallow scripts, overt racism
overt racism on TV?
Even in the '50s?
Although I may have been born too late ('55) or they never showed it
in reruns, I never remember seeing overt racism on TV.
Can you give us some examples?
I do remember watching Amos and Andy as a child and loved it.
Supposedly the
NAACP some how or another got it taken off the air. However Sanford
and Son
wasn't any better, maybe even more stereotypical, yet is considered
classic
black comedy. As for the Westerns and Cop shows of the fifties,
they dealt
with themes of morality teaching the bad guy is a loser and the
good guy is the
winner. Today you'll often find that crime pays as a theme. As for the
gratuitous violence, there is just as much today and it was not
near as graphic as
it is portrayed today.
+++ Amos and Andy weren't black which maybe later turned into a problem.
On the same note, I wonder if the NAACP will get changed from
colored people to African Americans N.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No yellow stars
In a message dated 5/26/06 5:48:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: +++ Amos and Andy weren't black which maybe later turned into a problem. On the same note, I wonder if the NAACP will get changed from "colored people" to "African Americans" N. Amos and Andy on Radio were white, however on TV, they were black actors. Too many "a's". NP. Also too close to Npyheaded. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conservative Clinton, Liberal Nixon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: about the non-existent global warming due to fossil-fuels (of which there is ZERO evidence). Apparently zero evidence that you have seen digested, or understood. Even Michael Crichton would not make a statement as radical or uninformed as that. How much fossil fuels contibute to weather effects is a debate, though the range of disagreement is shrinking (along with the ozone layer,haha). As is exactly in which ways CO2 effects weather effects (cooling here, warming there) However that i) fossil fuels create C02, ii) fossil fuels consumption and exhaust has been increased enormously in the past 150 years, and iii) CO2 in the atmosphere, whether natural (volcanos, cow farts, termite effects in rainforest) or fossil fuel based, all create and change the weather --- is pretty indisputable at his point. Even to the Bush White House. I misspoke; I should have wrote global warming crisis. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 60's TV Stereotyping
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 11:53:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking of the portrayal of Native Americans, and to some extent Mexicans, when thinking of overt racism. Ah yes , Poncho and Cisco and Tonto. Exactly Kimosabe. And lot of westerns with really depraved views of Indians. (Though when some shots showed them wearing tennis shoes, how serious could you take it.) +++ Remember the cartoon that showed the lone ranger finding out in later years that kemosabe was Apache slang for a horses butt? Maybe it all evened out on a subtle level. N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Sexual Practices (was Urdhva-retas?)
Michael Dean Goodman wrote: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know the reason why tantriks would be interested in developing such control? - Bhairitu Control! - We don't need no stinkin' control! Seriously, Bhairitu, where did you get the sense of 'control' in what I wrote? It wasn't about control, it was about flow, expansion. It was about relaxing from the state of orgasmic constriction and control that most all of us imbibed unconsciously from our upbringing - family, religious, societal, collective unconscious... And if the reason for overcoming our constrictive orgasmic conditioning and letting this flow develop - to see how big, how divine, how unbound- ed we are, to experience the ecstasy of embodied God-consciousness - was not clear from my essay, I doubt that anything more I say would make it any clearer. Please re-read what I originally wrote, this time from the perspective of REMOVING the old constrictions and control that we're conditioned to experience as arousal develops, as life force flows. Look for descriptions of the development of richer intimacy, more unity with the cosmic flow of life, expansion till we reclaim our status as God/God- dess. See if it makes more sense the second time around. Namaste, Michael PARA - THE CENTER FOR REALIZATION and THE RELATIONSHIP INSTITUTE Michael Dean Goodman Ph.D., D.D., Director Boca Raton (Palm Beach County) Florida 561-350-3930 (24 hours) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Counselor * Author * Speaker/Educator Spiritual guide (ashtanga yoga/meditation, tantra, satsang, ayur veda...) Workshops Retreats * Classes * Private Educational Sessions Clients and programs throughout the United States, Europe, and India Working in person or by phone Free initial consultation to discuss your needs and goals Well Michael, I'm a practicing tantrik and you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Tantra is not about sex. You do tantra a disservice just as Rajneesh did and many westerners who don't understand what tantra really is. Go find a real tantrik guru and study with him a few years and then we'll have a serious discussion about tantra. Suggestion, just call your self a sex counselor and don't allude to tantra. Jai Ma, Bhairitu To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new_morning_blank_slate VERSUS sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think they're competing with each other to see who can get the 100,000th post. I'll put my $$ on Spare. That's Mr. Egg, to you. Sal On May 26, 2006, at 5:02 PM, shirleybrahman wrote: Wow, this is extraordinary, there is someone who posts even more than sparaig does! come on sparaig, are you going to let this person get way ahead of you?! stop taking your meds for a week, i'll bet that will dramatically improve your ability to post far more than this new joker! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Yawn.
Yawn... ...every time I say that something interesting happens. OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Sexual Practices (was Urdhva-retas?)
I should have worded that last post differently. I meant to ask, in response to the statement below, what messages, unconscious or otherwise, Michael got from either his upbringing or religion, about orgasmic constriction (whatever that means). Were there some coded messages in the Bible everyone else missed? Sal On May 26, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote: It was about relaxing from the state of orgasmic constriction and control that most all of us imbibed unconsciously from our upbringing - family, religious, societal, collective unconscious...
[FairfieldLife] was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/26/06 1:33:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, shempmcgurk@ writes: But as an outsider who came to the U.S. I have noticed -- even before I emigrated here when I made numerous visits to the U.S. throughout my life, like most Canadians -- regional bigotry against the South from Northerners. Not only have I noticed this in personal interactions but it is really prevalent on TV. Does anyone from the South on this forum feel the same way? Or am I the only one who has noticed this? We see it all the time. Does it piss you off? 99% of this regional bigotry I see going from North to South but hardly ever from South to North... With the mass media going to the extreme to avoid offending anyone in the past half-century, (genereally, a good goal, I think, for the overall culture to aim to attain) it is amazing to me the degree of residual, blatant bias of Northerners against Southeners. The character of the best Northerners barely approximates the character of mediocre Southerners. Some of the most considerate, thoughtful, and hopeful people on Earth are from Mississippi. I am a native Louisianian, with ancestors there several hundred years in the past. I was disappointed to hear knee-jerk racist expressions from southern whites about the blacks who were stranded by Katrina floodwaters in New Orleans. Deeply engrained racism remains in the character of Southerners, and casts an ugly scar on what would be a beautiful face of Southerners, were it not for racism.. What a shame To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Was Not Naked Parsing? Redux I did not break any US drug laws?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Really well expressed. Really hit the mark. Thanks. And btw, I really like Bill Clinton. (And I like DOJ as a person and teacher). But I have learned not to right away trust anything that comes out of Bill's mouth. I let it fall to the ground, kick the tires, check its underbelly, poke it a few times to see if it rears up, snarls, and tries to bite. I check to see if it has all its teeth, and if they are straight. And I smell the critter to see if it reeks. If after sometime, I find the critter has some likable qualities, and is not prone to trickery or treachery, I let it into the screened front porch area. Only after a long probation do I let it into the house. And I think Bill would laugh heartily at that description and sentiment. I think he was one of our smarter presidents. With a flexible and fluid mind -- that is willing to change it with new evidence, logic, or insight. Not tied to some dogma in a non-thinking swamp state of mind as some presidents have been. But he had major flaws. Too bad he used part of his talents and attention in unseemly ways (of which I really don't need a recounting --I am aware of them.) In that, he really let the country down, IMO. Guffaw. Unlike the current president or the two before Clinton? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: [...] Dunno the answers to your questsion. Perhaps Orme-Johnson was simply making excuses for himself, OR, perhaps he was going through the old midlife crisis, OR perhaps he really was unstressing. HE says he was. Perhaps he simply did a wrong thing. And admitted to it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Yah, those Danes sure like TM
http://tinyurl.com/lw3l9 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The character of the best Northerners barely approximates the character of mediocre Southerners. Right, Southerners aren't at all biased against Northerners. And they're so modest, too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: snip The character of the best Northerners barely approximates the character of mediocre Southerners. Right, Southerners aren't at all biased against Northerners. And they're so modest, too. Indeed. Compared to what he *could* have said in order to be strictly honest, he was being quite modest... Given that the Universe has played a cruel trick on him by not letting him be born Korean, I am not displeased with his progress -Master of Sinanju in Remo WIlliams: The Destroyer To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new_morning_blank_slate VERSUS sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, this is extraordinary, there is someone who posts even more than sparaig does! come on sparaig, are you going to let this person get way ahead of you?! stop taking your meds for a week, i'll bet that will dramatically improve your ability to post far more than this new joker! Nothing new about him. Same old pissant, same old mindset. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] message 100,000 suggestion
I vote that Ron F be persuaded to make the 100,000th post. For those who don't know about Transfinite Ron, see post 33361. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was No yellow stars -Northern arrogance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: snip The character of the best Northerners barely approximates the character of mediocre Southerners. Right, Southerners aren't at all biased against Northerners. And they're so modest, too. Indeed. Compared to what he *could* have said in order to be strictly honest, he was being quite modest... Given that the Universe has played a cruel trick on him by not letting him be born Korean, I am not displeased with his progress -Master of Sinanju in Remo WIlliams: The Destroyer A...it takes me back to the shortest but most devasting film review I've ever read: The name of the film was Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins and the full text of the review was When? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yah, those Danes sure like TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/lw3l9 http://tinyurl.com/hlta9 Or, to get a feel for the real relative size of the searches or news items being reported on, try 'transcendental meditation, scientology' and see how the TM 'curve' flattens. Fascinating tool, though...thanks for the tip. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yah, those Danes sure like TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/hlta9 Or, to get a feel for the real relative size of the searches or news items being reported on, try 'transcendental meditation, scientology' and see how the TM 'curve' flattens. Or, even more fascinating, try: transcendental meditation, Buddhism transcendental meditation, meditation The latter should dispel any notions people have that TM is still the 'market leader'. Neat tool. Can't wait to compare other trends... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
