Re: Update on Bones (good news!)
Jen Glad to hear Bones is doing better. Carla
RE: Update on Bones (good news!)
Title: Message Wow Jenn--I'm thrilled to hear about Bones' prognosis, especially after that heroic undertaking of yours---you could probably sleep for a week at this point. The vet sounds a real goodie. And love your story about Bones"performing" forthe doc. With all the treats and attention I know you'll be lavishing on Bones while she's confined I think she'll figure out pretty soon -- she's smart-- thatthe cage istemporary and for her own good. You have done such a great job with the little furball. Keep us posted WHEN you get time. love and hugs, kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:37 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Update on Bones (good news!) Bones and Iare back from the specialist today. Bones has a "Caudal end plate fracture of L3 Vertebrae", and possible pelvic fractures also, but the pelvic fracturesdid not show on x-ray (but the vet says she is unusually tender in the hips, and feels "off" on palpation). She said that Bones is really doing so much better than can really be expected from this injury (she's like, best case scenario at this point), and that she doesn't see any need to go into surgery right now, and so Bones is now on anti-inflammatory drugs and complete bed rest for a month. If she gets worse, then we could still end up in surgery, but this is something that could heal on it's own. So, YEAH, good news! The vet really seemed to like her, She wanted to see Bones walk, and so I called her out of the kennel, and Bones swayed her way over to the doctor, and then she made a nice big circle around the room, as if she knew exactly what the doctor wanted. The doctor said "Oh what a good little kitty, you made such a nice circle for us, what a good girl!". Hehe, she really is a cute little cat, you can't help but be taken in by her winning little personality! Now, how to keep her from pacing the cage and trying to chew her way to freedom will be the problem. She's already going NUTS in the bathroom, and I've been told that that is too much space, and she needs to be in a 2x3 foot cage at max (just enough room for her to stretch out comfortably and fit a litterpan and food bowls), so she cannot walk around, and is basically forced to lay, sit or stand still for a month. I have to buy a cage, but don't have the money til next payday, so she has a few more days of pacing the bathroom until she's a real prisoner. The poor cat does not understand that we are trying to SAVE her, she thinks we are intentionally locking her in alone and ignoring her. I already feel guilty, and it hasn't even really begun yet. Hopefully, if I get one of the open wire type of dog cages, where she can see out all sides, it will help to calm her down and make her feel less confined than being closed behind a solid door. I gotta get pictures for you guys so you can see her. Oh, and she weighs 5.7 pounds.. told you she was TINY! (at least compared to my 12 to 14 pound fat-so's) Ok, off to change litterboxes, shower, tend to Bones, make dinner, and then get a few hours sleep. Man, getting up at 5:00am, driving 150 miles with a meowing cat, then going to work all day and not getting home til after 10:00pm... I'm kinda exhausted! :) Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Yes it is the test he suggests and was sent to the lab he has listed on his website. I called them to ask how much they charged when I got the bill from my vet and they charge $120.00 per test. Maybe the cost he mentions is with his fee for handling and shipping. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Did your kitties get treated on his treatment? If so, how did it go? I am very curious because of my OB is getting thinner and thinner - and so is his hair..and I want to try it - Did you use Antech or Idexx lab? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo Yes it is the test he suggests and was sent to the lab he has listed on his website. I called them to ask how much they charged when I got the bill from my vet and they charge $120.00 per test. Maybe the cost he mentions is with his fee for handling and shipping. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
PS. I forgot to mention the first test she sent they never got, so maybe she charged me a little something for that, we had to draw blood a second time. Poor babies, they really hate that :( -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Hi, This is the lab on his website that he has listed as doing the test: National Veterinary Diagnostic Services (N.V.D.S) 27994 Bradley Rd., Suite 1 Sun City, CA 92586 Phone: (951) 672-1494 Website: www.national-vet.com Their cortisol was very low for both, their estrogen was alittle high on both, their T3 and T4 was normal for both and the IgA, IgM, IgG's were low on both. My vet put them both on prednisilone, and Joey was on metronidazole for his off and on diarrhea. But the most important thing was to get them both on hypoallergenic food, so I decided to make their food because everyone around here eats the same thing and the hypoallergenic was just too expensive and they didn't like it. It costs me about 7 or 8 dollars a day to feed them and I haven't got it down pat yet, I'm still working onthe supplements and figuring out how much to put in. I'm also trying to come up with a dry food by dehydrating because I have a few that are dry food junkies. It will probably be a good month before they are completly off of the Fancy Feast, right now they are getting 2/3 rds my stuff to 1/3 rd FF, but until I'm sure they are getting all of the supplements they need I can't take them completely off the FF, my vet is reseaching but there isn't much info for cooked homemade food, just raw :) The protocal he lists is for humans, I think my vet talked to him and that's where she got the treatment we're following (not positive of that though, it does say to replace the cortisol with pred, or some other choice on his protocal sheet). -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
They've been on it for a while but until I can afford to retest I really won't know how their levels are now and whether I need to adjust the dose they are getting. With Bailey being positive we have to be careful not to comprimise his immune system. Joey's diarrhea is much better, and Bailey is eating better, he was starting to lose weight but he also had stomastisis and had his teeth pulled, once that healed he was eating good again. They have both gained alittle weight. Joey also has mild to moderate cardiomyapathy we just found out, so we are also going to start treatment for that shortly. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
The only thing I did not like about it using steroid- He does mention about using natural type - have you ever looked into that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo They've been on it for a while but until I can afford to retest I really won't know how their levels are now and whether I need to adjust the dose they are getting. With Bailey being positive we have to be careful not to comprimise his immune system. Joey's diarrhea is much better, and Bailey is eating better, he was starting to lose weight but he also had stomastisis and had his teeth pulled, once that healed he was eating good again. They have both gained alittle weight. Joey also has mild to moderate cardiomyapathy we just found out, so we are also going to start treatment for that shortly. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Sam is lost - AC
No - not yet - sometimes hopeful, sometimes sad. Sigh. We've gotten great advice. Posting and passing out a flyer, and made a business card with his picture on it. Offering a reward, but not saying on the poster how much. Diane says she feels he's near water, and hiding. We've been looking. We've been out just about everyday, and get great help from the kids in the neighborhood. Got it narrowed down to a few houses nearby, where they've seen a Siamese cat, just haven't seen Sam. Gloria At 12:38 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: Any update on Sam?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Good luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what you need, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non one is 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me), Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book called Learning their language, which is pretty amazing and Annette Martin (?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people 408-379-6669 as well. My favorite person is Janet Shepherd - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Thank you!! I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with lost kitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and I have an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!! Thank you!! Gloria At 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote: Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, this is an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if they can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's lost cat, too. Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that you can use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please mention that it's an emergency. Marta Williams - 707.829.8186 Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960 Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell) Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123- Annette Betcher 360-871-4774 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service Gloria It's heartbreaking---I hope and pray Sam is found safe. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service, special needs list? Sam is lost. He belonged to an older lady whose family we know. She became sick and I found a foster home. The foster mom accidently let Sam outside last weekend, and he hasn't been seen since. Susan and I've been going over and passing out flyers and looking for him in the neighborhood. Sam is a 17 year old Siamese cat, never been outside before that I know of. Prayers and good thoughts and vibes are appreciated. Thanks - Gloria This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Sam is lost - AC
Gloria, Don't forget..."near water" may not be a stream or lake as would be our first assumption...but rather near a sewer drain...or inside of one (cats often like to go down there)wouldn't hurt to put your head down a few and call...or sit there with some freshly warmed tuna or fried chicken. Keeping you both in our prayers. T"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No - not yet - sometimes hopeful, sometimes sad. Sigh. We've gotten great advice. Posting and passing out a flyer, and made a "business card" with his picture on it. Offering a reward, but not saying on the poster how much.Diane says she feels he's near water, and hiding. We've been looking. We've been out just about everyday, and get great help from the kids in the neighborhood.Got it narrowed down to a few houses nearby, where they've seen a Siamese cat, just haven't seen Sam.GloriaAt 12:38 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote:Any update on Sam??-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HideyoYamamotoSent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:58 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Sam is lost - ACGood luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what youneed, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non oneis 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me),Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book called"Learning their language", which is pretty amazing and Annette Martin(?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people408-379-6669 as well.My favorite person is Janet Shepherd --Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. LaneSent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Sam is lost - ACThank you!! I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with lostkitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and Ihave an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!! Thank you!!GloriaAt 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote: Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, thisis an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if they can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's lost cat, too. Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that youcan use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please mention that it's an emergency. Marta Williams - 707.829.8186 Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960 Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell) Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123- Annette Betcher 360-871-4774 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service Gloria It's heartbreaking---I hope and pray Sam is found safe. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B.Lane Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service, special needs list? Sam is lost. He belonged to an older lady whose family we know. She became sick and I found a foster home. The foster mom accidently let Sam outside last weekend, and he hasn't been seen since. Susan and I've been going over and passing out flyers and looking for him in the neighborhood. Sam is a 17 year old Siamese cat, never been outside before that I know of. Prayers and good thoughts and vibes are appreciated. Thanks - Gloria This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom theyare addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!
RE: Sam is lost - AC
Oh.. poor baby, he is probably very scared - important thing is that kids do not try to find him or chase him as they may think they are helping but actually it will scare him more, and you don't really want Sam to move or get scared away and go some place else where it might not be safe. It's also helpful to put a flyer on an every single door of every single house instead of putting some on the posts on the street - every time I needed to look for a cat for myself or for someone, I did that way, and it has a much better success rate than putting them on post - then, you can make sure that they have your phone number with them at home and they usually keep the flyer for a while that way - it's a lot of work and it's definitely worth it - I had about 75% success rate of finding them this way. Also, on the flyer, if they see a cat similar to Sam, ask them to put the food out for him so that he will stick around - and you can perhaps set a trap there once you confirm that he is eating there - food availability is very so important for Sam so that he will feel safe and will stay the place. I would really like it if you can call Dr. Geri Ryan to find out about the meditation information - some might think it's stupid, but she said that it's very effective - I wrote down some, but I don't think I have all the wording correctly - Also, again please call Marta Williams if you need the 2nd opinion - she is very very good about finding a lost animal - she can actually sometimes, visualize exactly what path they took to get where they arrived - sorry for being pushy - but I wanted to make sure that Sam is OK and can be found asap - please keep us posted - I will pray. The meditation goes like You imagine a golden koyo (?), coming from your heart center, reaching out into the world, searching and for Sam. Latch onto like a magnet and guiding him safely home She suggested you meditate as many as you can (and your friends, too),she told me that it's amazing how well it works, and you can be re-united with your animals most amazing way. I just called the doctor to let me know of the missing wordings in the meditation in case you will use it. Kisses and hugs to Sam. Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC No - not yet - sometimes hopeful, sometimes sad. Sigh. We've gotten great advice. Posting and passing out a flyer, and made a business card with his picture on it. Offering a reward, but not saying on the poster how much. Diane says she feels he's near water, and hiding. We've been looking. We've been out just about everyday, and get great help from the kids in the neighborhood. Got it narrowed down to a few houses nearby, where they've seen a Siamese cat, just haven't seen Sam. Gloria At 12:38 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: Any update on Sam?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Good luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what you need, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non one is 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me), Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book called Learning their language, which is pretty amazing and Annette Martin (?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people 408-379-6669 as well. My favorite person is Janet Shepherd - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Thank you!! I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with lost kitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and I have an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!! Thank you!! Gloria At 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote: Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, this is an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if they can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's lost cat, too. Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that you can use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please mention that it's an emergency. Marta Williams - 707.829.8186 Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960 Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell) Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123- Annette Betcher 360-871-4774 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - add to
RE: Sam is lost - AC
Thanks, Tamara - good point. Fortunately, the place where they've seen him is a very nice old estate-type place, with lots of space, and places to hide. One of our state senators lives there, and is understanding. I said, aren't you a city director or something - I know that went over well. But I apologized profusely, and he's been nice anyway. Just HOPING that Sam is not in the sewer - I will check on those. Lots of other kinds of houses around though - including vacant ones - very mixed neighborhood. Gloria At 01:53 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: Gloria, Don't forget...near water may not be a stream or lake as would be our first assumption...but rather near a sewer drain...or inside of one (cats often like to go down there)wouldn't hurt to put your head down a few and call...or sit there with some freshly warmed tuna or fried chicken. Keeping you both in our prayers. T Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No - not yet - sometimes hopeful, sometimes sad. Sigh. We've gotten great advice. Posting and passing out a flyer, and made a business card with his picture on it. Offering a reward, but not saying on the poster how much. Diane says she feels he's near water, and hiding. We've been looking. We've been out just about everyday, and get great help from the kids in the neighborhood. Got it narrowed down to a few houses nearby, where they've seen a Siamese cat, just haven't seen Sam. Gloria At 12:38 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: Any update on Sam?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Good luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what you need, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non one is 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me), Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book called Learning their language, which is pretty amazing and Annette Martin (?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people 408-379-6669 as well. My favorite person is Janet Shepherd - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Thank you!! I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with lost kitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and I have an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!! Thank you!! Gloria At 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote: Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, this is an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if they can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's lost cat, too. Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that you can use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please mention that it's an emergency. Marta Williams - 707.829.8186 Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960 Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell) Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123- Annette Betcher 360-871-4774 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service Gloria It's heartbreaking---I hope and pray Sam is found safe. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service, special needs list? Sam is lost. He belonged to an older lady whose family we know. She became sick and I found a foster home. The foster mom accidently let Sam outside last weekend, and he hasn't been seen since. Susan and I've been going over and passing out flyers and looking for him in the neighborhood. Sam is a 17 year old Siamese cat, never been outside before that I know of. Prayers and good thoughts and vibes are appreciated. Thanks - Gloria This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM more. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=32660/*http://discover.yahoo.com/online.htmlCheck it out!
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
I think I did ask my vet about that and she said something about the way the pred works is better than a natural steriod for now. And they are getting a very miniscual dose 1/4ccs once a week. Even at their highest dose it was only 5ccs a day for 4 weeks, then we lowered it to 2ccs everyday for 4 weeks, then to 1 ccs daily for 4 weeks and then lowered it again to 1/2ccs daily for 4 weeks and then went to 1/2ccs every 3 days for 4 weeks, and now we're at 1/2ccs once a week (just started that this week) and if their symptoms stay good we'll probably stay there until I get them completely switched to homemade and then get them retested. So they have been on it for quite a while. I watch them very closely :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: FW: Sam is lost - AC
Gloria, she just called be back (in two minutes after I left her a message) and I am sure that she will call you right back - but I got the rest of the wordings - she is a wonderful person, she is an instructor at C C (??) foundation. She is the one who recommend that I talk to Marta Williams when I first called her. You imagine a golden coil, coming from your heart center, reaching out into the world, searching and probing for Sam. Latch onto like a magnet and guiding him safely home, The rest of the people on the list, if time allows, please read this meditation for Sam, so that he can be re-united with Gloria ASAP (THANK YOU ---everyone!!!) Also, in case you might find helpful at all, here's the flyer that we use when we have missing animals - REWARD!! Still Looking For Beige or Short Pale Gold Colored Kitty We are desperately looking for a FERAL kitty, which has been escaped from Pecos Loop Area. Description: A Small Female Adult with Short Beige Hair Shy and afraid of people therefore, she will most likely to run away if you have an eye contact with her. If you have already seen her, please call ASAP regarding his whereabouts. If you see her in the future , please do NOT CATCH her or DO NOT CHASE her. But please call us immediately regarding her whereabouts. If you dont object, please put food and water, so that she can survive. We will supply with food!! Tel. XXX -Original Message- From: Gloria B. Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:18 PM To: Hideyo Yamamoto Subject: Re: FW: Sam is lost - AC Thanks Hideyo! I did try to call Dr. Ryan, and left a message. I know how hard it is sometimes to get in touch with those guys - really in demand. I'm glad that you sent me the meditation. You might live in south Texas? I see that your email's as riogrand.com Gloria At 02:08 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Oh.. poor baby, he is probably very scared - important thing is that kids do not try to find him or chase him as they may think they are helping but actually it will scare him more, and you don't really want Sam to move or get scared away and go some place else where it might not be safe. It's also helpful to put a flyer on an every single door of every single house instead of putting some on the posts on the street - every time I needed to look for a cat for myself or for someone, I did that way, and it has a much better success rate than putting them on post - then, you can make sure that they have your phone number with them at home and they usually keep the flyer for a while that way - it's a lot of work and it's definitely worth it - I had about 75% success rate of finding them this way. Also, on the flyer, if they see a cat similar to Sam, ask them to put the food out for him so that he will stick around - and you can perhaps set a trap there once you confirm that he is eating there - food availability is very so important for Sam so that he will feel safe and will stay the place. I would really like it if you can call Dr. Geri Ryan to find out about the meditation information - some might think it's stupid, but she said that it's very effective - I wrote down some, but I don't think I have all the wording correctly - Also, again please call Marta Williams if you need the 2nd opinion - she is very very good about finding a lost animal - she can actually sometimes, visualize exactly what path they took to get where they arrived - sorry for being pushy - but I wanted to make sure that Sam is OK and can be found asap - please keep us posted - I will pray. The meditation goes like You imagine a golden koyo (?), coming from your heart center, reaching out into the world, searching and for Sam. Latch onto like a magnet and guiding him safely home She suggested you meditate as many as you can (and your friends, too),she told me that it's amazing how well it works, and you can be re-united with your animals most amazing way. I just called the doctor to let me know of the missing wordings in the meditation in case you will use it. Kisses and hugs to Sam. Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC No - not yet - sometimes hopeful, sometimes sad. Sigh. We've gotten great advice. Posting and passing out a flyer, and made a business card with his picture on it. Offering a reward, but not saying on the poster how much. Diane says she feels he's near water, and hiding. We've been looking. We've been out just about everyday, and get great help from the kids in the neighborhood. Got it narrowed down to a few houses nearby, where they've seen a
RE: Sam is lost - AC
Yuk Sewer is a possibility unfortunately -Did Diane say that he seems like he is stuck some place - how did he describe his physical and emotional state, is he starving? Is he stuck??? They can often tell you those things as well - those things will be helpful, too. - One good thing is - Janet (Shepherd) really takes her time to really explore the situation to find a cat - (she asks all sorts of different questions to a cat to really find out where s/he is and how s/he get there) I once had to rescue a kitty who was stuck under a sewer - fortunately he was vocal enough that you heard him, because there was no way that anyone could ever see him since he was in the pipe under the sewer - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Thanks, Tamara - good point. Fortunately, the place where they've seen him is a very nice old estate-type place, with lots of space, and places to hide. One of our state senators lives there, and is understanding. I said, aren't you a city director or something - I know that went over well. But I apologized profusely, and he's been nice anyway. Just HOPING that Sam is not in the sewer - I will check on those. Lots of other kinds of houses around though - including vacant ones - very mixed neighborhood. Gloria At 01:53 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: Gloria, Don't forget...near water may not be a stream or lake as would be our first assumption...but rather near a sewer drain...or inside of one (cats often like to go down there)wouldn't hurt to put your head down a few and call...or sit there with some freshly warmed tuna or fried chicken. Keeping you both in our prayers. T Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No - not yet - sometimes hopeful, sometimes sad. Sigh. We've gotten great advice. Posting and passing out a flyer, and made a business card with his picture on it. Offering a reward, but not saying on the poster how much. Diane says she feels he's near water, and hiding. We've been looking. We've been out just about everyday, and get great help from the kids in the neighborhood. Got it narrowed down to a few houses nearby, where they've seen a Siamese cat, just haven't seen Sam. Gloria At 12:38 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: Any update on Sam?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Good luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what you need, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non one is 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me), Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book called Learning their language, which is pretty amazing and Annette Martin (?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people 408-379-6669 as well. My favorite person is Janet Shepherd - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Thank you!! I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with lost kitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and I have an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!! Thank you!! Gloria At 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote: Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, this is an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if they can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's lost cat, too. Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that you can use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please mention that it's an emergency. Marta Williams - 707.829.8186 Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960 Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell) Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123- Annette Betcher 360-871-4774 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service Gloria It's heartbreaking---I hope and pray Sam is found safe. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service, special needs list? Sam is lost. He belonged to an older lady whose family we know. She became sick and I found a
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Interesting, thank you so much for your information - which state are you located at ? Was it easy to find a vet to follow dr. Plechner's approach? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo I think I did ask my vet about that and she said something about the way the pred works is better than a natural steriod for now. And they are getting a very miniscual dose 1/4ccs once a week. Even at their highest dose it was only 5ccs a day for 4 weeks, then we lowered it to 2ccs everyday for 4 weeks, then to 1 ccs daily for 4 weeks and then lowered it again to 1/2ccs daily for 4 weeks and then went to 1/2ccs every 3 days for 4 weeks, and now we're at 1/2ccs once a week (just started that this week) and if their symptoms stay good we'll probably stay there until I get them completely switched to homemade and then get them retested. So they have been on it for quite a while. I watch them very closely :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Sam is lost - AC
Oh, also...I caught this strand late...so I don't know all that you've tried, but...if you find that someone "thinks" they see Sam, and its close by...or at least near a neighbor who would be willing to keep an eye out for you.leave a dirty sock nearby (there are more scent glands on your feet than other parts of your body I'm told)...consitantly day after day. If Sam is around and frightened, the continuous smell of you might help to draw him near one place over and over again. Leave food near the sock as well. Be consitant WHEN you renew the used sock and foodesp. if you can time it around the time you would normally be coming home from work...or when Sam would normally be fed. (Only problem...the food could draw others who might scare Sam off, so whether or not you leave the food is your call.) Again, if someone "spots" him close by, try walking to that area with your shoes on, taking them off there and straight walking home. Cats DO follow scent, and if Sam is lost and scared...your scent (or whoever he is closest to in the family) might just draw him home. Just becareful to stay away from roads and the ends of driveways as much as possible...try to pick a safe route home for him...then leave an outside light on and a screened window "open" so you can hear him if he comes calling. Lastly, tell the AC to try to send a visual to Sam what you are doing to help him find his way home. Animals communicate, it is believed, not through words but more like an autistic child would. Thoughts are pictures, not verbalizations. Try contacting Sam yourself, as he knows you and may be able "pick up" on you more so than the AC...may trust what he's receiving more. Sit or lay in a safe place...pref. one that you too spend quality time together in(turn off all verbal imputsthe tv, radio, phone...if music helps you relax...please only instrumental...songs that you will not automatically put words to...silence is best...if possible.) RELAX Picture Sam with you there in the room-maybe laying on you kneeding and purring if he is prone to do that...concentrate on his purringtry to identify that feeling in your heart that you only get when with Sam..once you can identify that...it may help if you assign a color to the feelingtry to remember him nervous (vets office maybe...) assign a color to that Sam, overlap the two instances...and visualize Sam enveloped in those auras...now allow the orig. color of a safe, purring Sam and allow that org. color to sooth the nervous colors around him. Call to him with your mind, as you would if you were calling to him in the house for something he enjoyed. Picture him running up to you inside the house. Picture picking him up and hugging himor however you expressed your love for him. Now.. picture walking with him, or carrying him outside of the house. Show him what the outside of the house looks likeesp. details near his eye level. Slowly picture walking around the house and then the yard in growing circles. Once you reach the end of the property, go with him back into the house...to your safe spot againtogether. Do this again, widening the imagined circle each time, always returning with detailed visuals to the house and back inside of it. Each time you return...picture Sam safe, with you, wrapped in that original loving Sam color.By visualizing the neighborhood you are showing himhow to get home from various areas. (If he is an indoor cat...he may not KNOW what the outside of the house looks like!) Picture yourself out looking for him, again...picture yourself hugging himor however you spend quality time...picture him coming home to you...then relaxslow your breathing...and try to clear your head of all thoughts...trust what comes into your mind...and follow eachshadow... with a pictured thought of your love for Samthen relax and clear your mind again. Picture other people in the neighborhood who are looking for him. Picture him being found by each in turn...always ..picture them bringing him to you! If you use the bare foot trail I suggested above, you should "show" him that too. It seems like a lot, but do this over and over again. When you clear your mind...if you think you are starting to get an image that you are not controlling, slowly wrap this image in the color you have chosen to surround Sam when he is relaxedif any of the nervous colors sneak in...try to sooth them out gently...but don't try to manipulate any shadows you are seeing...don't try to turn them into what you want them to be...just let it happen. You may not "see" anything yourself...but don't assume that its not working. It has been proven that animals retain an esp that humans surpress. They have trained cameras on dogs and cats that have shown them waking up at the exact time their owners have "decided" to head home. Some dogs and cats can be trained to alert people to when a seizure is comingIts the animals that have the skill more so
RE: Sam is lost - AC
Great idea about asking AC to send an energy to bring him home they can send Sam an energy to tell him how to get home, sending a picture of how to get home (though, I think the problem might be that he does not think his foster family is not his home as he probably thinks of his former mother as a home, and I think thats why he has not gotten home yet. I think once he is spotted, if he is a skittish kitty ( which I get a feeling of), you might have to try to set a trap from him AFER establishing a feeding pattern every day for a while If someone calls you with any information, try to get all the detail as much as possible, time of the day (very important as cats do like to follow a pattern and you can then stake out to spot him, exact location, and if he runs away, find out exactly which location he came from and which direction he went, what was he doing when they saw him exactly? How did he seem? Etc From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara stickler Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC Oh, also...I caught this strand late...so I don't know all that you've tried, but...if you find that someone thinks they see Sam, and its close by...or at least near a neighbor who would be willing to keep an eye out for you.leave a dirty sock nearby (there are more scent glands on your feet than other parts of your body I'm told)...consitantly day after day. If Sam is around and frightened, the continuous smell of you might help to draw him near one place over and over again. Leave food near the sock as well. Be consitant WHEN you renew the used sock and foodesp. if you can time it around the time you would normally be coming home from work...or when Sam would normally be fed. (Only problem...the food could draw others who might scare Sam off, so whether or not you leave the food is your call.) Again, if someone spots him close by, try walking to that area with your shoes on, taking them off there and straight walking home. Cats DO follow scent, and if Sam is lost and scared...your scent (or whoever he is closest to in the family) might just draw him home. Just becareful to stay away from roads and the ends of driveways as much as possible...try to pick a safe route home for him...then leave an outside light on and a screened window open so you can hear him if he comes calling. Lastly, tell the AC to try to send a visual to Sam what you are doing to help him find his way home. Animals communicate, it is believed, not through words but more like an autistic child would. Thoughts are pictures, not verbalizations. Try contacting Sam yourself, as he knows you and may be able pick up on you more so than the AC...may trust what he's receiving more. Sit or lay in a safe place...pref. one that you too spend quality time together in(turn off all verbal imputsthe tv, radio, phone...if music helps you relax...please only instrumental...songs that you will not automatically put words to...silence is best...if possible.) RELAX Picture Sam with you there in the room-maybe laying on you kneeding and purring if he is prone to do that...concentrate on his purringtry to identify that feeling in your heart that you only get when with Sam..once you can identify that...it may help if you assign a color to the feelingtry to remember him nervous (vets office maybe...) assign a color to that Sam, overlap the two instances...and visualize Sam enveloped in those auras...now allow the orig. color of a safe, purring Sam and allow that org. color to sooth the nervous colors around him. Call to him with your mind, as you would if you were calling to him in the house for something he enjoyed. Picture him running up to you inside the house. Picture picking him up and hugging himor however you expressed your love for him. Now.. picture walking with him, or carrying him outside of the house. Show him what the outside of the house looks likeesp. details near his eye level. Slowly picture walking around the house and then the yard in growing circles. Once you reach the end of the property, go with him back into the house...to your safe spot againtogether. Do this again, widening the imagined circle each time, always returning with detailed visuals to the house and back inside of it. Each time you return...picture Sam safe, with you, wrapped in that original loving Sam color.By visualizing the neighborhood you are showing himhow to get home from various areas. (If he is an indoor cat...he may not KNOW what the outside of the house looks like!) Picture yourself out looking for him, again...picture yourself hugging himor however you spend quality time...picture him coming home to you...then relaxslow your breathing...and try to clear your head of all thoughts...trust what comes into your mind...and follow eachshadow... with a pictured thought of your
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
I'm in Washington state and the vet I've used for years is very open to anything I suggest, I told her about it and faxed over some info and his website and she researched it and thought it sound interesting, she was surprised at their bloodwork results. She is always going to continued education conferences, infact she just got back and learned some new stuff about heart disease. Which is good since we are having to deal with it now. She is learning acupuncture and more holistic things. I've always said if she ever moves I'll have to sell my house and move too :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
PS. She comes to the house for anything they don't need office equipment for (we even did their vaccines here the last two years, I hold them to draw blood), because she knows what a paranoid mom I am and how I worry about stressing them (the clinic is a 3 minute drive from my house), now that's special!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Oh my gosh - I thought I liked my vet - I just LOOOVE yours!! That's my kind of vet!! I would almost want to move to where you are now just so that your vet can take care of mine, too! (I have got over 50 of them - I do make lots of visit to the vet office)- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo PS. She comes to the house for anything they don't need office equipment for (we even did their vaccines here the last two years, I hold them to draw blood), because she knows what a paranoid mom I am and how I worry about stressing them (the clinic is a 3 minute drive from my house), now that's special!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Do you think your vet would be willing to talk to my vet about her experience in treatment of Dr. Plechnner? I was going to talk to her about it, and I haven't - I am sure that she will be open to this, but I feel more comfortable if she can talk to someone who actually applied the practice like your vet - My vet, she is also a very nice special person, too. Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo PS. She comes to the house for anything they don't need office equipment for (we even did their vaccines here the last two years, I hold them to draw blood), because she knows what a paranoid mom I am and how I worry about stressing them (the clinic is a 3 minute drive from my house), now that's special!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Update on Bones (good news!)
Awesome! =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:36 PM Subject: Update on Bones (good news!) Bones and Iare back from the specialist today. Bones has a "Caudal end plate fracture of L3 Vertebrae", and possible pelvic fractures also, but the pelvic fracturesdid not show on x-ray (but the vet says she is unusually tender in the hips, and feels "off" on palpation). She said that Bones is really doing so much better than can really be expected from this injury (she's like, best case scenario at this point), and that she doesn't see any need to go into surgery right now, and so Bones is now on anti-inflammatory drugs and complete bed rest for a month. If she gets worse, then we could still end up in surgery, but this is something that could heal on it's own. So, YEAH, good news! The vet really seemed to like her, She wanted to see Bones walk, and so I called her out of the kennel, and Bones swayed her way over to the doctor, and then she made a nice big circle around the room, as if she knew exactly what the doctor wanted. The doctor said "Oh what a good little kitty, you made such a nice circle for us, what a good girl!". Hehe, she really is a cute little cat, you can't help but be taken in by her winning little personality! Now, how to keep her from pacing the cage and trying to chew her way to freedom will be the problem. She's already going NUTS in the bathroom, and I've been told that that is too much space, and she needs to be in a 2x3 foot cage at max (just enough room for her to stretch out comfortably and fit a litterpan and food bowls), so she cannot walk around, and is basically forced to lay, sit or stand still for a month. I have to buy a cage, but don't have the money til next payday, so she has a few more days of pacing the bathroom until she's a real prisoner. The poor cat does not understand that we are trying to SAVE her, she thinks we are intentionally locking her in alone and ignoring her. I already feel guilty, and it hasn't even really begun yet. Hopefully, if I get one of the open wire type of dog cages, where she can see out all sides, it will help to calm her down and make her feel less confined than being closed behind a solid door. I gotta get pictures for you guys so you can see her. Oh, and she weighs 5.7 pounds.. told you she was TINY! (at least compared to my 12 to 14 pound fat-so's) Ok, off to change litterboxes, shower, tend to Bones, make dinner, and then get a few hours sleep. Man, getting up at 5:00am, driving 150 miles with a meowing cat, then going to work all day and not getting home til after 10:00pm... I'm kinda exhausted! :) Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.4.1 - Release Date: 6/2/2005
RE: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
Thank you, let me talk to my vet first to explain what I am thinking of as she has no information on this treatment at all at this moment - as soon as I get a chance, I will let you know. Basically, if possible, I would like your vet to answer any questions that my vet may have in terms of effectiveness or validity of the treatment from what she can tell from her experience - Thank you! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo I can ask her, give me your vets number and exactly what you'd like her to talk to your vet about and I will ask her, I should be talking to her today or tomorrow. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Update on Bones (good news!)
That's great - congratulations! Gloria At 03:57 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: Awesome! =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:36 PM Subject: Update on Bones (good news!) Bones and I are back from the specialist today. Bones has a Caudal end plate fracture of L3 Vertebrae, and possible pelvic fractures also, but the pelvic fractures did not show on x-ray (but the vet says she is unusually tender in the hips, and feels off on palpation). She said that Bones is really doing so much better than can really be expected from this injury (she's like, best case scenario at this point), and that she doesn't see any need to go into surgery right now, and so Bones is now on anti-inflammatory drugs and complete bed rest for a month. If she gets worse, then we could still end up in surgery, but this is something that could heal on it's own. So, YEAH, good news! The vet really seemed to like her, She wanted to see Bones walk, and so I called her out of the kennel, and Bones swayed her way over to the doctor, and then she made a nice big circle around the room, as if she knew exactly what the doctor wanted. The doctor said Oh what a good little kitty, you made such a nice circle for us, what a good girl!. Hehe, she really is a cute little cat, you can't help but be taken in by her winning little personality! Now, how to keep her from pacing the cage and trying to chew her way to freedom will be the problem. She's already going NUTS in the bathroom, and I've been told that that is too much space, and she needs to be in a 2x3 foot cage at max (just enough room for her to stretch out comfortably and fit a litterpan and food bowls), so she cannot walk around, and is basically forced to lay, sit or stand still for a month. I have to buy a cage, but don't have the money til next payday, so she has a few more days of pacing the bathroom until she's a real prisoner. The poor cat does not understand that we are trying to SAVE her, she thinks we are intentionally locking her in alone and ignoring her. I already feel guilty, and it hasn't even really begun yet. Hopefully, if I get one of the open wire type of dog cages, where she can see out all sides, it will help to calm her down and make her feel less confined than being closed behind a solid door. I gotta get pictures for you guys so you can see her. Oh, and she weighs 5.7 pounds.. told you she was TINY! (at least compared to my 12 to 14 pound fat-so's) Ok, off to change litterboxes, shower, tend to Bones, make dinner, and then get a few hours sleep. Man, getting up at 5:00am, driving 150 miles with a meowing cat, then going to work all day and not getting home til after 10:00pm... I'm kinda exhausted! :) Jenn http://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.4.1 - Release Date: 6/2/2005
Sebastian needs help!!!!
I have just returned from the vet. Sebastian's hind legs are weaker and he has lost more weight. The vet just doesn't seem to want to work with me and do absolutley everything for my baby. When I asked her about the weakness in hishind legs she said that it could just be the disesase attacking his nervous system. She also stated, "I don't want to give up on him because he is FELV+." Givving up on Sebastian is the last thing that I am doing! I was not happy with that remark. I want her to do everything and anything to try and help him. I suggested drugs like Immunoreglin and Acemannan and she had never used them and said she wasn't sure if you could even use them on cats. She just doesn't seem as if she knows what she is doing. So, my question is Does anyone have any experience using Immunoreglin on their cats? and DOes anyone have a vet who is up to date on alot of Feline Leukemia treatments and is dedicated to doing what it takes to help? I will go anywhere. I just need help finding a really good vet.
Re: Sebastian needs help!!!!
1. Where are you located? You should definitely try a different vet. I suggest that you try a board-certified internist. They are usually located at large veterinary hospitals and vet school clinics. Do you have any of those near you? If so, call and ask if they have an internal medicine department with an internist on staff. They tend to be better and more knowledgeable, though, like with anything, they vary too. 2. I have used Immuno-regulin for bad upper respiratory infections and pneumonia and it seems to work. The dosage is .25 to .5 ml once or twice a week, by IV injection. You can order it yourself and bring it to the vet to give to him. You can order it from Revival Animal Health, online. It sometimes produces fever, chills, and diarrhea for a few hours afterwards, but sometimes has no side effects at all. I have seen both, with my two cats I have tried it on. 3. You can also try feline interferon, which your vet has to get permission from the FDA to order. The info is in our archives. It is different from interferon alpha, available in the states. Three of us have tried it and have not been as impressed with it as we had hoped, but it is hard to say exactly what effect it has had because there are so many variables and we donot know what would have happened without it. Michelle In a message dated 6/3/05 6:46:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have just returned from the vet. Sebastian's hind legs are weaker and he has lost more weight. The vet just doesn't seem to want to work with me and do absolutley everything for my baby. When I asked her about the weakness in hishind legs she said that it could just be the disesase attacking his nervous system. She also stated, "I don't want to give up on him because he is FELV+." Givving up on Sebastian is the last thing that I am doing! I was not happy with that remark. I want her to do everything and anything to try and help him. I suggested drugs like Immunoreglin and Acemannan and she had never used them and said she wasn't sure if you could even use them on cats. She just doesn't seem as if she knows what she is doing. So, my question is Does anyone have any experience using Immunoreglin on their cats? and DOes anyone have a vet who is up to date on alot of Feline Leukemia treatments and is dedicated to doing what it takes to help? I will go anywhere. I just need help finding a really good vet.
Re: Sebastian needs help!!!!
Also, he could have lymophoma, a cancer which positives have a tendency toward. It is often responsive to chemotherapy, but it would need to be diagnosed first. So I would try to get to an internist. Michelle In a message dated 6/3/05 6:46:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have just returned from the vet. Sebastian's hind legs are weaker and he has lost more weight. The vet just doesn't seem to want to work with me and do absolutley everything for my baby. When I asked her about the weakness in hishind legs she said that it could just be the disesase attacking his nervous system. She also stated, "I don't want to give up on him because he is FELV+." Givving up on Sebastian is the last thing that I am doing! I was not happy with that remark. I want her to do everything and anything to try and help him. I suggested drugs like Immunoreglin and Acemannan and she had never used them and said she wasn't sure if you could even use them on cats. She just doesn't seem as if she knows what she is doing. So, my question is Does anyone have any experience using Immunoreglin on their cats? and DOes anyone have a vet who is up to date on alot of Feline Leukemia treatments and is dedicated to doing what it takes to help? I will go anywhere. I just need help finding a really good vet.
Bones Bramble
Oh that is such a sweet story about Bones - so please she has improved - the just cope so remarkably well. Bramble (FIV+) has now been on Feline Omega Interferon for 2 days and I am learning how to inject tomorrow so that I can just do it at home to save him the stress of the vet visits. I am waiting the results of his FeLV test too so that should be back in a week or so as it needs confirming by Glasgow University (UK) along with his calicivirus and herpesvirus tests. Minstrel (FeLV+) and Buddy (FIV+) just keep looking at him because he isn't well. I know more about FIV than FeLV as Minstrel is my first FeLV+ cat so I dread the day when she becomes symptomatic. Someone mentioned diluting interferon to keep symptoms at bay - where do you buy it from online and does anyone know if it legal for me to buy it online to bring in to the UK as drug laws are quite strict - my vet wasn't sure if it is legal or not. The vets can't prescribe human interferon in UK as we have feline omega interferon and protocols available but she said she doesn't mind me breaking the rules slightly if I'm doing it myself and just let her know whats happening - she was amazed how cheap it can be bought online when I said some people buy a bottle for $20 - $40. If it is a choice of bending the rules or myfurkids suffering through being deprived of treatmentthen my cats lives win every time. They fight so so hard forus so it's only rightwe help them win that fight until the time comes when they can no longer win whenoftenneed to help them pass over peacefully no matter how painful that time is for us. AndI guess we all know that feeling - and my heart goes out to those of you have recently lost your beloved - I'm sure if all ourkitties past and presentwould be so praising and thankful that they had us - because everyone here and in the other group I'm with for FIV are the most caring responsible owners possible -everyone isdoing their best to do what is right for their kitties andgiving so muchlove and care- no-one can ask more than that. I argued with my boyfriend many times over my kittie who passed over in March this year - he used to say that cats only ever want food and don't need and love and affection - just food. I used to go mental - and he never got many cuddles in bed as my cat stayed sleeping on my chest getting all the attention she needed instead. I'm still with him but I moved out and moved home to my parents withBramble, Buddy Minstrel. Thank goodness there are some of us who know how much love and care cats do actually need and especially cats with compromised immune systems or who are sick. My message is getting a little long so I'm going to stop writing now - prayers going out to protect all our cats and to protect the souls of our dear departed. Michelle L
Re: Update on Bones (good news!)
jenn, a month will really go fast, we had a cat in a cage in a similar situation for 6 months, and he recovered completely, he died 2 years later of Felv, not related to that. Just talk a lot to her and explain it is for her own good, she will understand. you can also use bach flowers to keep her more relaxed when things get difficult. macarena
Re: Dr Plechner Blood test - Hideyo
She probably won't have alot to say until I can get them all switched over to homemade food and get a retest on their bloodwork. I'm not going to retest them until they are on the homemade food completely. She can verify that they have both gained weight and Joey's allergy symptoms are better. He was getting scabs on the sides of his chin, being that his normal bloodwork was all OK, and with his continuous diarrhea we suspect IBD. Then when the special bloodwork came back showing his hormones are out of whack we decided to put them both on pred and it has helped as far as the diarrhea and the scabs, he gets them less frequently, and it takes months for all the toxins from the crap food to get out of their system, but until I get them completely off the Fancy Feast I won't really know how good they are actually doing. Just made a new batch of food and am dehydrating a batch for dry, only took me 2 hours to rollthem into bite size balls. I sure hope they eat it :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Sebastian needs help!!!!
Hello, Jennifer, When my BJ was diagnosed with feline leukemia in July, 2004, I began to research the disease and its treatments. Acemannen and ImmunoRegulin (correct spelling) are treatments for the disease, according to what I read. However, I would go to someone who knows how to administer the drugs correctly. At the time of BJ's diagnosis, we were going to a traditional veterinarian who recommended that we euthanize him right away. The vet said that feline leukemia a fatal disease and the BJ would just keep getting sicker. I was not about to give up on him. I knew that if feline leukemia was a treatable illness and that BJ could have a good quality of life, that's what he would have. I immediately got on the Internet and tried to find out everything I could about the illness. As a result, I found that it could be successfully treated by vets who practice alternative veterinary techniques. I looked for such a vet in my area and found one in the Yellow Pages of my local phone book. She has been a God-send. Later, when the virus flared up in BJ, our new vet treated him with prednisone. I am not a veterinarian and cannot dispense medical advice. I am not saying that prednisone is what should be given to Sebastian. I am saying that if Sebastian were mine, I would find an alternative vet in my area who knows how to treat the disease. Everyone else might just be guessing and that can possibly be worse than doing nothing. During my search, I talked to anyone who would listen and told my story. I specifically asked each vet if he or she was successful in treating feline leukemia. I asked about treatments they use, their success rate, the potential life span with the illness, etc. When I found a vet who seemed to fit BJ's needs, I made the first available appointment with her. I have NEVER regretted my decision. I hope this bit of advice has been helpful. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. Laurie B. Oliver At 05:45 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: I have just returned from the vet. Sebastian's hind legs are weaker and he has lost more weight. The vet just doesn't seem to want to work with me and do absolutley everything for my baby. When I asked her about the weakness in his hind legs she said that it could just be the disesase attacking his nervous system. She also stated, I don't want to give up on him because he is FELV+. Givving up on Sebastian is the last thing that I am doing! I was not happy with that remark. I want her to do everything and anything to try and help him. I suggested drugs like Immunoreglin and Acemannan and she had never used them and said she wasn't sure if you could even use them on cats. She just doesn't seem as if she knows what she is doing. So, my question is Does anyone have any experience using Immunoreglin on their cats? and DOes anyone have a vet who is up to date on alot of Feline Leukemia treatments and is dedicated to doing what it takes to help? I will go anywhere. I just need help finding a really good vet.
suggestion
Hi all, Thanks for your warm emails for Jersey. I am going to print all of them on one page, put it in a plastic folder and attach iton the tree next tohis grave inside the forest. This will also help me torecognise the place in the winter. I read the Rainbow Bridge poem that Barbara sent me and try to believe this is a true. I am also waiting for a message from Jersey about a new cat... Imiss him a lot. As a typical British Shorthair he used to come to the door every time I entered and I feel awful now. My big lesson from that case and the last emails about Sebastian is that not all vets are experienced as I thought before. Some of them are and some are not. I don't know how many people are in the forum but hopefully we cover half of the states. We might make a list with the qualified vets for each state based onpersonalexperience. In case somebody needs a FeLV vet the name can be pulled from the record. It is helpful because not everybody is available at anytime but the list can be online 24/7. This is just a suggestion. I will stay in the forum and try to help if I can. Stan
Re: suggestion
Stan I think that is an amazing idea!! Your right about the vet and I can't imagine how many times we could have used a list like that in the past. Me and the kitties send you warm wishes. Mia and kitties Mia Nicer Phone: (646) 226-3277 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out!
I need Names people!!
If anyone knows of a great vet please give me their name and city. I will make an appointment and go there! What abouta vet who uses some of Plechner's techniques. I also want to thank everyone for all of their help it means so much to me.
Re: suggestion
I think that's a great suggestion. Just today I found out that my favorite vet retired last week with no notice to anyone. Now I have to start all over again with new vet.
Re: I need Names people!!
Jenn- What state are you in? Kristi From: JENNIFER RATLIFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/03 Fri PM 09:55:48 EDT To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: I need Names people!! If anyone knows of a great vet please give me their name and city. I will make an appointment and go there! What abouta vet who uses some of Plechner's techniques. I also want to thank everyone for all of their help it means so much to me.
Re: I need Names people!!
Hello, Jenn, I live in Lewisville, Texas and our vet is in Carrollton, TX, 20 miles away. Where are you? Laurie B. Oliver At 09:00 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote: Jenn- What state are you in? Kristi From: JENNIFER RATLIFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/03 Fri PM 09:55:48 EDT To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: I need Names people!! If anyone knows of a great vet please give me their name and city. I will make an appointment and go there! What about a vet who uses some of Plechner's techniques. I also want to thank everyone for all of their help it means so much to me.
Re: Sam is lost - AC
Near water can also mean trapped inside a wall near the water pipes, stuck on a roof with rain gutters, trapped in a damp basement, outside in the morning dew, outside in the rain, and any other various sources of water. In fact, it would be hard for him to not be near water to some extent, especially since he's lost, and has probably gotten a bit thirsty by now, and is most likely seeking out a drink if possible. I guess I'm just a critic, but really, near water doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot. (sorry for the negativity, but had to point all that out) Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.5.2 - Release Date: 6/3/2005
