Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #203
This message is from: Rhonda Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just for Fun - Vandalized Barn (R.Taylor, Straw Hat Stables) Watch out for the too smart for their own good Fjords. While I was at work on Saturday, the girls were in the pasture (I thought). The new pasture fence allows them access to the rear entrance of the barn, where their stalls are. (The feed room is in the middle, the hay at the far end). Winnie lifted the new gate off its hinges, and let herself and Tigger into the barn. Where they proceded to have a good time - from the looks of the barn when I got home. They dumped their water buckets in the aisle, tried to spring open the latch on the tack room (bent it, but didn't open), opened the interior gate to the hay storage, pushed over the stack of bales of new clover hay - took a bite or 2 out of each bale, dumped the manure cart, took the water hose off the rack and tumbled it into a heap - then pooped on it, and slurped on each of the white lead ropes hanging neatly on the rack - so all my white cotton lead ropes are now GREEN. Luckily, there was no paint anywhere, so they ! didn't graffiti the place. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Mixing Jeans...ooops!
This message is from: I Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oooops...sorry. Mixing of Jeans! My mistake. Yes, I remember you mentioning growing up in this area. It's changed quite alot over the past few years we've lived here. Most of the feed and horsey-related type of businesses have gone out of businesssigh! If I need bedding (shavings) or feed, they have to be delivered from miles miles away. New developments all over the place. Getting so crowded and urbanized. Time to move further out...But then, how far from work? UughIngrid Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 06:41:10 -0800 From: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ingrid, Gunnar belongs to the other Jean! ...Jean Gayle! but thanks, anyway! BTW I grew up in your area, still have relatives there! (North Olmsted, OH) Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, Cool and still smoky..will it ever end? Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = Ingrid Ivic Customized Artwork and Gifts for Norwegian Fjord, Friesian Icelandic Horse Specializing in Embroidered Apparel Signs Plaques, Cards, Saddlepads More Please visit us at: http://www.fullmoonfarm.us http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/fjord_and_friesian Thank you!
Re: Engar/Fjord body width
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Amy, Hard question to answer, as there are different types of Fjords. Just like with other breeds, some will be small, tall, wide, thinnerI do not think Fjords can be classified to be more prone to one saddle size versus another. Lynda In a message dated 8/31/2004 2:51:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think maybe I didn't ask my question very clearly. I was just wondering if it's common for a Fjord that is otherwise wide through the body to be ridden in a medium tree saddle (as opposed to medium-wide, wide or extra wide), because that would help me gauge the size of horses for sale.
RE: wormer suggestions
This message is from: jerrell friz [EMAIL PROTECTED] is there a wormer out there that is considered less toxic than the standards, --- Answering Laurie's question. there sure is, Called Herbal Tonic, by Dynamite , you can go to www.dynamiteonline.com look in horse products.. I use it every two months on my dogs, cats, horses. I have a 22 year old Aussie[ yup! 22,],, hard to believe. Never been vaccinated. There are only a few wormers that will kill the tapeworm. One is Equimax, I use this one when I have to,,I too,, try not to use a product with ivermectin in it. I do NOT use any product by FORT DODGE !!! Also Pfizer has a cd-rom [free] called the parasite puzzle [got mine at the local feed store]. I HIGHLY recommend viewing this, it addresses the tapeworm,now that new research is out on the tapeworm. A former client of mine lost her mare from tapes, she paid over 8k in vet. bills. My daughter was lucky, she still has her gelding, but, after 10k in vet. bills, again,, suspect,,, tapeworms. The only way to diagnose tapes is with a new blood test. Eggs are carried through a host mite in the grass. I suspect that the tapeworms cause ulcers deep down in the digestive system, this is where ivermectin can get into the blood. Hope this helps, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca.
fall trail ride
This message is from: Linda Lottie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, The fall trail ride I had planned at my place is going to be canceled at least for this year. I have heard from approximately 10 people that were interested and only 2 said they would be coming. This is fine as there is always so much to do especially here in the north before winter comes. I also have the chance at taking some additional engineering work during that time touring with Big Top Chautauqua (which always helps to pay the heating bills over the winter). Hopefully we can all get together some other time. Maybe a more central location could be considered. I do want to thank everyone for letting me know though and not dragging out the RSVP's. See ya at the MWFHC Winter meeting! Mark K. McGinley Mariposa Farm Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
Re: Engar/Fjord body width
This message is from: Amy Goodloe [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:54 PM -0400 8/30/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't there a breeder or two in your area that you could go visit? This might answer all of your questions at once! I've been to see Beth Beymer's Fjords and got to take a lesson on BDF Magnum, who is a perfect size for me and a lot of fun to ride. My Wintec Isabell with a wide tree fit him nicely. But he's not for sale! Seeing Beth's Fjords was educational in many ways and I appreciate the information she shared with me, but that doesn't help me determine if a Fjord for sale elsewhere will be wide enough for me. I think maybe I didn't ask my question very clearly. I was just wondering if it's common for a Fjord that is otherwise wide through the body to be ridden in a medium tree saddle (as opposed to medium-wide, wide or extra wide), because that would help me gauge the size of horses for sale. I was surprised to hear that any Fjord could be ridden in a medium tree saddle and wondered if there was something about their back shape that I was missing, but maybe it's only the more modern types that are that narrow. That's the impression I'm getting from some private conversations on this topic, which makes me all the more sure that I need to look specifically for the more drafty type. --Amy
Re: wormer suggestions
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laurie - [Disclaimer: My opinion and herd practice management style. Not intended to be taken as the only way to do it.] First get his stools tested to find out what kind of worm load you are up against. It is usually only about $10. If it is significant I would say you need the big guns (i.e. chemical wormers). When his worm load is under control that is the time to switch to herbal wormers. The herbals do a better job of discouraging worms as opposed to eradicating them. You can find several equine herbal wormers by doing a Google for it. I have had really good luck with Molly's Herbals at www.fiascofarm.com . Tamara On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 08:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] oz has a sore under his tail, which someone at the barn he's boarding at this week suggested may be caused by worms. perhaps they are causing the tail rubbing? it seems to be getting better, but was pretty raw looking when i found it sunday. is there a wormer out there that is considered less toxic than the standards, ivermectin and such? i dislike putting so much poison into my horse, but know that the alternative (worms) is not a good thing either. the woman i took lessons from when i first got a horse three years ago is very much into natural methods and treatments and tells me she believes ivermectin to be very hard on horses. any suggestions? thanks in advance laurie central minnesota
wormer suggestions
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] oz has a sore under his tail, which someone at the barn he's boarding at this week suggested may be caused by worms. perhaps they are causing the tail rubbing? it seems to be getting better, but was pretty raw looking when i found it sunday. is there a wormer out there that is considered less toxic than the standards, ivermectin and such? i dislike putting so much poison into my horse, but know that the alternative (worms) is not a good thing either. the woman i took lessons from when i first got a horse three years ago is very much into natural methods and treatments and tells me she believes ivermectin to be very hard on horses. any suggestions? thanks in advance laurie central minnesota
RE: flax seed
This message is from: Cynthia Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have used flax seed for the last three years. It was recommended to me for fiber to help prevent sand colic as well coat, etc by a long-time Las Cruces horsewoman. I do not grind it but I soak it. I prepare 1 cup of beet pulp and add 1/4 cup of flax for each horse at the prior feeding so it soaks at least 11-12 hours. The Fjords get just enough beet pulp to mix with any supplements such as the flax and minerals I add. I also am feeding a probiotic (Fastrack) in the p.m. feeding. At the first of the month, as recommended by my vet, I go to Sam's and buy a huge jar of Metamucil (I sometimes get funny looks for this and feel it necessary to explain it is for the horses!). I feed it twice a day for five days. My Morgan who couldn't eat much hay when his teeth got worn, ate a much larger feeding of beet pulp mixed with priobiotics and flax. This kept him shiny and put weight on him. He only got enough hay to keep him happy. He did tend to have looser stools. Most of the hay was wasted as he couldn't chew it fine enough to swallow. Tank enjoyed cleaning up after him - an additional snack. I have introduced the baby to small amounts of beet pulp, flax seed, minerals, as well as some straight oats. He is gobbling it up. Starfire Chiron is one year old today! He is doing very well and adapting to his new desert surroundings well. Luckily we have had unseasonably cooler weather and I believe this is making his transition easier. He is so sweet natured and very smart. I'll have more baby pictures soon. Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!
Re: Fair Acres Ole
This message is from: Linda Lottie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patti...I sent the photo of Ole on to my daughter, Anne. When we talked she right away mentioned him and likes him so much. We talk about breeding our sweet Lena one more time.and Ole is now on our list. Also on the list is Rokeida's Lee..he is the FIRST fjord I ever saw in the flesh...will never forget the moment and he will always be tops in my eye. Last week I moved Hasse.2 year old gelding, grandson of Grabbson, to a barn near Mpls.. As he got out of the trailer, ears up and a little wild eyed, he heard his mom's call what fun to watch his reaction. The calling back and forth between him, mama and QH was so funny..all have adjusted to the new barn. This week I move Sven and Miss Dottie (appy mare) there will be more of the welcoming committee hollering when they arrive. So fun! All will reside in Mpls for the remainder of 2004. Looking forward to riding and driving this fall with my horsey friends..back to lessons...it feels good to be homewe have a beautiful property in NW MN but it is the lonliest place in the world :( Gotta run . evaluations? I think they are a good thing..take advantage if you want, if not, so be it. Personal choice it is a learning tool. The goat world has linear apprasialssame thing... Linda in NW Minnestoarelocating to Mpls for remainder of 2004 :) From: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Fair Acres Ole Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 03:18:52 -0700 This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]Thank you Pat for those kind words on Ole. I, of course, agree with you as I know my boy. His heart is all gold.From everything I hear they did a fantastic job and many think they should have recieved a blue. Patti Jo THIS DOES SOUND like a case where an evaluating panel, rather than only two, might have graded him higher, but the important thing is that he is in fact a blue in your heart (and Pat's). In fact he's becoming somewhat of a legend as you both describe his attributes. Gives me goosebumps when you describe his priceless temperament... worth a hundred medallions! Congratulations Patti. Get Well !! Ruthie, nw mt Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
re: introducing horses
This message is from: Katherine Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valerie, I had a very similar experience once with two Morgan mares. My original mare (Jasmine) has been the dominant horse in our little herd. Then I got Stella (another Morgan, both horses about 10 yrs old) and after keeping her in an adjacent pen for several days, let her out with the others. Although they had been fine across the fence, when they were together they soon got into a royal kicking match, butt to butt, squealing and firing away! I separated them and Jasmine was pretty sore from the encounter. However, these two horses eventually became the best of friends -- it turned out that Stella was a true alpha mare personality, and once the dominance issue was settled they got along great. So it's entirely likely that your horses will eventually get along. --Kathy in Maine
Re: Engar - evaluations - long
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:12 PM 8/30/2004, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mike, Do you think that if the NFHR held only one evaluation a year, say smack in the middle of the country that the amount of Fjords brought would be increased and therefore, more evaluators could attend? Sort of like one of the European evaluations? Lynda No I don't think so Lynda. That system seems to work on in countries where you can drive from one side to the other in a day. Some people drove over 18 hours to get to the one in La Crosse as it is. If we only had one - say in the middle of the country how many people could really travel that far? Sure the midwest would get there ok but what about the people from Maine, Florida, California, Montana, Vermont, the Carolinas etc? Talk about raising the price? Adding 3 or 4 extra days of travel to the formula makes it even worse than adding $30 per test as far as I am concerned. Transporting horses isn't cheap with todays fuel prices. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Evaluations - Beth Beymer's Comments
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I appreciated Beth taking the time discussing the evaluator training and selection with the List. I had the pleasure of meeting Beth briefly at the 2004 Virginia Evaluation and watching her work. Most of my experience with horse evaluations is with warmbloods. I can tell list members that with most of the warmblood breeds, you get two evaluators. They tend to be US or German breeders who have met the criteria for becoming an evaluator. These evaluations cost considerably more than a Fjord evaluation. I tend to look at Evaluations as just another form of a horse show. We all have had good days at horse shows and bad days at horse shows. You can always go back again if your initial result isn't to your liking. I think it is easy to criticize the judge at a horse show, particularly on judgments that are somewhat subjective. I have my own criticisms of the evaluation program on the administrative side, but I think we do have to accept that the evaluators are of a certain standards and the evaluation system is valid. If you think otherwise, why not give some feedback to the Evaluation Committee or the Board of Directors? And please don't attribute my comments to the fact my horses did well in Virginia. In fact, they acted like idiots in their performance tests and I watched months of training, showing and effort get blown away in a few moments. But that's a horse show for you. You have to move on. Margaret Bogie Ironwood Farm Rixeyville, VA http://ironwood-farm.com
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