Re: [Flexradio] Digital voice
Tim, I'd rather FlexRadio concentrate on fixing all the problems rather than just adding more partially working functionality to PSDR, CW is a **prime** example! This is the statement that Gerald sent to Waters and Stanton, the UK reseller to forward on to me, this would be a GOOD place to start! Hi Mike, I am attaching the latest statement from Flex-Radio that relates to your problem. The next step to get us to what we believe will be full break in will be to move the keying logic into the I/Q stream so that we have synchronous detection of the paddles and control of the TR relay. We have done this in the FLEX-1500 and are seeing excellent keying. The 48 kHz sampling rate will limit the transition time on that radio but keying is perfect with no jitter. Regards, Peter Waters Waters Stanton PLC = A REAL commitment from Flex rather than a We'll do it if/when we feel like it approach would be nice, why keep adding more and more functionality to PSDR when you haven't fixed the basics? You can only build a house on the beach so high, after a while the sand underneath will give in and the whole lot will come tumbling down!! The above statement was used as the Reason for not giving me my money back on my F3K, so how about delivering now please? Mike. Message: 9 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:37:48 -0400 From: Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com To: Joe Roth-WC4R w...@live.com, Flex Radio flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Digital voice Message-ID: d5aa272b5a4710459bae81fcae3f52ab01e36545e...@fivehole.itsco.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd rather the FlexRadio developers add new operational radio features to PowerSDR like synchronous diversity than YADMP (yet another digital mode program) functionality. -Tim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] BobSmeter-Flex
Hi All, BobSmeter works perfectly with PSDR 1.18.5, comOcom and ddutil, took less than 30secs to set it all up! Screen shot here: http://www.hfantenna.co.uk/BLOG/files/e9badfe5dcd6b70b6426588a7e87d941-7.html Mike ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC?
Hi Tim, Thanks for making the test! With a better OS you may find you can do more, Linux is far better at multitasking that windows. So perhaps In the Future a Joojoo and Flex1500 will be possible! Cheers! Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 15:48:13 -0400 From: Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com To: Flex-radio Reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC? Message-ID: d5aa272b5a4710459bae81fcae3f52ab01e3500d8...@fivehole.itsco.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wonder no more. I dug out my Intel ATOM 330 (D945GCLF2) XP SP3 machine from the bottom of the closet (it was stored there when it wouldn't play well with the FLEX-300) and after spending an hour or so doing BIOS, driver and other updates, finally got it running with the FLEX-1500 using the latest version of PowerSDR v1.19.3 from SVN. The results are better that when running with the FLEX-3000 (since it basically didn't). On receive with no RX DSP special processing, it runs at about 37% utilization. With NR/ANF/NB1/NB2/BIN enabled on SSB, it caps out at ~55% CPU with no degradation of the display or audio. Now load up VAC 4.09, Com0Com and Fldigi for operating digital modes and the CPU utilization jumps up to ~48%. If you add on a logger or DDUTIL, I suspect I would be at the ragged edge of what this little PC can do. -Tim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC?
Hi Greg, Thanks for the info! I'm looking to put together a portable QRP solution to replace my FT817, I'd love to have a Joojoo and Flex1500 however I will most probably end up with a netbook running Linux and a Flex1500. This all depends on the availability of Deep Impact and Linux support of course! I hope you have a lot of fun with your Flex1500! Best 73 and happy QRP Dx'ing! Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com On 2 May 2010, at 20:47, Greg Jurrens wrote: Mike: I concur. I've been running WSPR all weekend on the FLEX-1500 with my wife's Toshiba NB205 netbook (Atom N280 CPU, Windows XP SP3). and it's been working just fine. Basic PowerSDR V2.0 CPU loading is 25% to 30%. I've added VAC4.09, VSPMGR, and WSPR 2.0. and now I see usage in the 40-50% range. I have heard a very very few 'skips' but only when I was actively using the computer for related things. I'm also have the wireless LAN active. I see DPCs in the 500-1000uS range with regular spikes of 3K - 4K but it still keeps humming along! I must clearly state that YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY!!! I was surprised to see that it works so well. Greg - K5GJ On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Mike Tatum m...@f5vkm.com wrote: Hi Tim, Thanks for making the test! With a better OS you may find you can do more, Linux is far better at multitasking that windows. So perhaps In the Future a Joojoo and Flex1500 will be possible! Cheers! Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 15:48:13 -0400 From: Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com To: Flex-radio Reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC? Message-ID: d5aa272b5a4710459bae81fcae3f52ab01e3500d8...@fivehole.itsco.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wonder no more. I dug out my Intel ATOM 330 (D945GCLF2) XP SP3 machine from the bottom of the closet (it was stored there when it wouldn't play well with the FLEX-300) and after spending an hour or so doing BIOS, driver and other updates, finally got it running with the FLEX-1500 using the latest version of PowerSDR v1.19.3 from SVN. The results are better that when running with the FLEX-3000 (since it basically didn't). On receive with no RX DSP special processing, it runs at about 37% utilization. With NR/ANF/NB1/NB2/BIN enabled on SSB, it caps out at ~55% CPU with no degradation of the display or audio. Now load up VAC 4.09, Com0Com and Fldigi for operating digital modes and the CPU utilization jumps up to ~48%. If you add on a logger or DDUTIL, I suspect I would be at the ragged edge of what this little PC can do. -Tim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ -- Greg Jurrens - K5GJ VP, Sales and Marketing FlexRadio Systems Inc. T: 512-535-5266 x203 E: g...@flex-radio.com SKYPE: WD0ACD “Tune in Excitement” ™ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC?
Hi All, This new tablet looks like it could have potential as a console for the Flex1500 in the future as it would be uber portable. USB built in is a huge plus I think, has some neat other features too! https://thejoojoo.com/sites/ Have a good weekend! Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC?
Hi Tim, No it is a Linux based machine, however since deep impact will be running on the linux platform one day I was looking to future solutions ;) Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com On 30 Apr 2010, at 16:04, Tim Ellison wrote: I don't think it runs native Windows apps, does it? -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:35 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Reflector Subject: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC? Hi All, This new tablet looks like it could have potential as a console for the Flex1500 in the future as it would be uber portable. USB built in is a huge plus I think, has some neat other features too! https://thejoojoo.com/sites/ Have a good weekend! Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC?
Hi Dave, It runs Linux, it's detailed on the website! Since deep impact will be running on linux it has potential In the Future which I originally stated. Looking at the machine spec it is based around the Intel Atom CPU, so it should run ubuntu Linux which I hope deep impact will run under Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com On 30 Apr 2010, at 16:29, Dave Gomberg wrote: At 07:34 4/30/2010, Mike Tatum wrote: This new tablet looks like it could have potential as a console for the Flex1500 Given that no operating system is specified and only web access is supported, I think it has no potential at the moment. If the makers become less proprietary about what is going on, maybe. If they don't probably not. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE Programming since 1959 All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC?
Hi David, I would had thought that the atom processors would be powerful enough to drive the Flex1500? I guess it comes down to the underlying operating system ;) Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com On 30 Apr 2010, at 16:41, David McKenzie wrote: I wonder if anyone with the pre-production Flex-1500 has tried it on an Atom netbook running windows yet. I can tell you that my N450 netbook can barely play streaming video, so I wouldn't hold out much hope. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mike Tatum m...@f5vkm.com wrote: Hi Dave, It runs Linux, it's detailed on the website! Since deep impact will be running on linux it has potential In the Future which I originally stated. Looking at the machine spec it is based around the Intel Atom CPU, so it should run ubuntu Linux which I hope deep impact will run under Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com On 30 Apr 2010, at 16:29, Dave Gomberg wrote: At 07:34 4/30/2010, Mike Tatum wrote: This new tablet looks like it could have potential as a console for the Flex1500 Given that no operating system is specified and only web access is supported, I think it has no potential at the moment. If the makers become less proprietary about what is going on, maybe. If they don't probably not. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE Programming since 1959 All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC?
Hi Reggie, That's great news! Let us know how you get on with the 1500 ;) Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com On 30 Apr 2010, at 16:51, reggie1...@hotmail.com wrote: I have run my 3000 remotely using my Acer 1.66ghz netbook. Not a single blip! I plan on a 1500 later on and feel confident it will work! Hopefully! Reggie, k6xr in Bakersfield, California Amateur Radio for 54 Years. -- From: David McKenzie k1...@vhfwiki.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:41 AM To: Mike Tatum m...@f5vkm.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC? I wonder if anyone with the pre-production Flex-1500 has tried it on an Atom netbook running windows yet. I can tell you that my N450 netbook can barely play streaming video, so I wouldn't hold out much hope. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mike Tatum m...@f5vkm.com wrote: Hi Dave, It runs Linux, it's detailed on the website! Since deep impact will be running on linux it has potential In the Future which I originally stated. Looking at the machine spec it is based around the Intel Atom CPU, so it should run ubuntu Linux which I hope deep impact will run under Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com On 30 Apr 2010, at 16:29, Dave Gomberg wrote: At 07:34 4/30/2010, Mike Tatum wrote: This new tablet looks like it could have potential as a console for the Flex1500 Given that no operating system is specified and only web access is supported, I think it has no potential at the moment. If the makers become less proprietary about what is going on, maybe. If they don't probably not. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE Programming since 1959 All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Future Flex1500 PC?
Hi Brian, No one is counting their chickens before they hatch, this is all hypothetical and wishful thinking, can boys not dream about their future toys? Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com On 30 Apr 2010, at 17:23, Brian Lloyd wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Mike Tatum m...@f5vkm.com wrote: Hi Tim, No it is a Linux based machine, however since deep impact will be running on the linux platform one day I was looking to future solutions ;) It makes absolutely no sense to purchase a computer today for use tomorrow. The price for the same processing power will always decrease and for the same money or you will get more processing power for the same $$$. Also, other manufacturers will come out with new products with new features that may prove more attractive. In addition, the only thing we *know* about Deep Impact is that it is a redesign. Yes, we know that, if Bob has anything to say about it, DI will be running on Linux. Still, the biggest market is Windows, with MacOS #2. If Flex wants to reach the greatest number of hams they are probably going to give serious consideration to those OS's first. The point of this is, Don't count your chickens before they hatch. So it makes *zero* sense to buy a computer today for an application you *might* have in a few months. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 60, Issue 22
Hi Neal, This is great news! Just about to order a new MacBook Pro with same spec and will do the same as you but with a Flex3000 for /P usage! I can't wait for PSDR to go NATIVE OS X so I can use my Flex3000 with all my Apple machines :_)) Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:35:08 -0400 From: Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Latest MacBook Pro models Message-ID: v2q325413301004211935t3990ed05k4ff918f4ef2fb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just wanted to post on the list that I got my hands on the very latest Apple MacBook Pro (with i7 mobile four hyperthreads at 2.66GHz and 4 GB of memory) this weekend to test how it played with my radios. You might be aware it comes with 1 1394B socket which happens to have a Lucent controller. Using a CablesToGo stock cable with a knucklebuster toroid on each end, it worked FLAWLESSLY! Loaded Win7 Home Edition in a 64GB bootcamp partition with my usual package of programs and tested it with the 5000/3000/1500. It scores in the 100-140us range with DPCLat which seems to be the norm for Win7 systems. To be honest, I think Apple makes some of the most dependably useful Flex computers out there! Maybe because they invented firewire? I have tested everyone I own (minus my wife's iMac) and they all work just great, even the 1.88GHz mac mini. Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] CW Wave Form on Panadapter on TX?
Hi All, Just a quick question. When I'm in USB mode and press the TUN button I get a nice signal display on the panadapter showing the tone being transmitted, my question is, how do I get this same display when I am in CW mode (CWU or CWL) and keying the F3K via my twin paddle? Is it possible? I'm sure someone here will know ;) Thanks and best 73 Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com F3K / PSDR v1.18.5 + drivers ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] CW Wave Form on Panadapter on TX?
Hi Tim, Thanks for the reply. I understand the reason, would be a nice feature to have one day though ;) Cheers! Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com On 2 Apr 2010, at 17:14, Tim Ellison wrote: You can't. It is turned off because the time and PC resources it takes to render the panadapter during TX add too much latency which is detrimental to sending CW. It is the nature of the mode with SDRs. This might change when the DSP is decoupled from the GUI. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 12:10 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] CW Wave Form on Panadapter on TX? Hi All, Just a quick question. When I'm in USB mode and press the TUN button I get a nice signal display on the panadapter showing the tone being transmitted, my question is, how do I get this same display when I am in CW mode (CWU or CWL) and keying the F3K via my twin paddle? Is it possible? I'm sure someone here will know ;) Thanks and best 73 Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com F3K / PSDR v1.18.5 + drivers ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 24
Hi, You can indeed get 4.09, all the info needed is supplied during the purchase ;) Mike. On 24 Feb 2010, at 18:14, Tim Ellison wrote: VAC 4.10 is broken when used with PowerSDR on all versions of Windows. See if you can get v4.09 and if so let the list know if you could get it. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:10 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 24 There are also problems with 4.10 VAC under Windows XP as I found out when I just purchased it! Mike. = Message: 15 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:11:34 -0600 From: k5nwa k5...@sbcglobal.net To: Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Message-ID: 772779.17524...@smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed At 09:04 PM 2/23/2010, Brian Lloyd wrote: I guess I don't understand the concern about VAC 4.09 vs. VAC 4.10. Yes, there is a problem with 4.10 and its interaction with PSDR but I haven't heard anything about special enabling features in 4.10 that makes its use mandatory. Certainly 4.09 works just fine with PSDR when communicating with back-end CODECs. This seems to me like a non- issue. Have I missed something? -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL People want something past 4.09 that works because they have 64 bit windows that must have signed drivers, 4.09 is not a signed driver so you have to play all sorts of tricks to get it to work. Cecil k5nwa ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] QSK -- It's not...
Hi John, I agree, the F3K is a semi-break-in rig not a full QSK rig, but it does have a lot of good features. One thing I have learnt over the many years of being a HAM is that there is no such thing as the perfect rig :) I very rarely use SSB so I like you have no interest whatsoever in audio quality and being as wide as a barn with booming bass like so many SSB HAMs today, CW and PSK31 are the only two modes I use and even then it's almost always CW ;) It would be fantastic if FlexRadio improved the F3K on the CW front and I agree, I can't wait to see if PSDR v2.x is as good as people have said it will be for us Old School CW Op's :) Mike. On 22 Feb 2010, at 18:31, John Ragle wrote: Hi, Mike... Read your blog. As a long-time CW operator (licensed ~1946), and having owned both TenTec and Elecraft rigs with perfect QSK, I was really deeply disappointed in that aspect of the F3K -- it is a typical semi-break-in rig. I had a fair amount of trouble using it with my paddles, so shifted over to the keyboard. It is a more or less reasonable CW semi-break-in rig when used that way, but it is still obvious that the designers were SSB or AM types that did not use CW in their ham activity. I hope your comment about pSDR 2.x is right, but I don't hold out much hope, reading the reflector and all the jazz about audio quality, etc. The only saving grace for CW is the digital filter system...as you say, it is absolutely superlative. For a long time I was reticent about making noise over the lack of CW capability. I finally did so, more in the way of criticizing the ads' wording about break-in than anything else. I see that the latest web page ads only specify semi-break-in. I think it is important to comment or even complain bitterly about the lacks of the F3K in this regard. Amusingly, I did see a comment by an owner of an F5K, who used the dual receiver to provide a kind of break-in. Unfortunately, we poor cousins don't have that option. Another comment on the reflector was from an op who claimed that full QSK was just an annoyance! Go figure. I personally couldn't give a hang about audio quality. I'm not in the broadcast business...just give me a carbon mike salvaged from a WW-2 fighter! But since we come to praise Caesar not bury him, I thought your blog struck a nice balance. We wait impatiently for Ver. 2.x (along with our F1.5K)! 73 John Ragle -- W1ZI ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] What a blast!
Hi All! Since the majority of messages on the list seem to be problem related I thought I'd make a posting about how much fun I had this weekend with my new F3K ;) I decided to have a go at the ARRL International CW DX contest over the weekend just gone, it's the first time I've ever had a go at this particular contest. Currently I only have a delta loop for the 40m band erected in the garden so there was no choice when it came to band selection, 40m or 40m, that's was it! On the run up to the start of the contest I grabbed a few rare DX stations in the Caribbean area who were just warming up which was great as I bagged a couple of islands that I hadn't worked before. Then the contest started, I tuned down to the bottom of the 40m band and started trawling upwards working US stations one at a time as I went. I was amazed how many stations there were in such a small amount of space, I had the F3K filter set to 50Hz and used the panafall display. It was so easy to find each station using the waterfall display and the panadapter (Panafall) to ensure I was smack on frequency, then getting the DX US station normally on the first call using just 100w from the F3K into the full wave delta loop antenna. With the filtering set at 50Hz I was able to work the US stations even if they were almost on top of each other and grabbing the weaker stations even if they were next door to a large contesting station was a doddle. I was able to find and work far more stations per hour than I ever could with my conventional radio, mainly due to the narrower filtering and the fact that PSDR takes the guess work out of finding each station. Early in the morning when all the neighbours were asleep and TVs were turned off I fired up my trusty Ranger 811H amplifier, this would be the first time I had used the amp and F3K in anger and I am happy to report they worked faultlessly throughout, a perfect combination! Since I was working more stations per hour than ever before I found I needed more breaks, the old gray cells aren't as lively as they used to be, but it was a most enjoyable experience. Whilst trawling for stations I used my Schurr Profi II twin paddle for each contact, key in left hand, mouse in right hand, it's handy being ambidextrous! Later on I settled on a frequency and called using the PSDR CWX facility, whilst not as much fun as using my lovely twin paddle I was surprised how easy it was to contest using this mode of operation, I've never used the keyboard for CW before, I'm a bit old school, but once I had the pre-prepared messages saved in the onscreen memory slot I was able to work stations just as quick as when using my twin paddle, but without the wrist fatigue! I thoroughly enjoyed contesting with the F3K and am really pleased that I went ahead and bought it even though I had some doubt initially, it really is a super CW rig! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM Read about my F3K exploits on my BLOG at http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Tim, Yes I am using RigCAT and the PowerSDR.xml file. Works perfectly ;) Mike. On 20 Feb 2010, at 03:18, Tim Ellison wrote: How do you have CAT configured with FLDIGI? RigCat? -Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:20 PM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Tim, CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me! (I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle) I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of sound getting into fldigi? If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been doing it with conventional radios and the decoding is instant. Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows? As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;)) One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning, I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any problems at all, the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which makes it a lot easier on the ears! For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any problems at all! For all the little Foibles I'm having here at the moment I must congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM kit, it's certainly the best receiver I have ever played with! Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote: This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Tim, Yes I've been through that setup procedure just fine. The Rig CAT Control side works fine, it's just that there seems to be a long delay in the sound getting to fldigi via the VAC for some reason which results in the delay in decoding, all the freq display and TX/RX works in an instant just fine. I have tested with another PC running fldigi under Ubuntu which is connected via the F3K speaker O/P and it decodes instantly, the fldigi running via the VAC is at least one word or more behind all the time. The next test will be fldigi running under windows on the PSDR PC with the sound passed to it via the O/P on the F3K connected to the soundcard input on the same PC and fldigi configured to get it's sound input via the soundcard instead of via VAC. I'll let you know the outcome! Mike. On 20 Feb 2010, at 14:45, Tim Ellison wrote: Interesting. I have Fldigi 3.12.5 running using RigCat and the time between clicking on TX in Fldigi and the start of transmission is ~100 ms. Did you use Brian's Fldigi PowerSDR setup how to https://fedorahosted.org/fldigi/wiki/Documentation/HOWTO/PowerSDR -Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:45 AM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Tim, Yes I am using RigCAT and the PowerSDR.xml file. Works perfectly ;) Mike. On 20 Feb 2010, at 03:18, Tim Ellison wrote: How do you have CAT configured with FLDIGI? RigCat? -Tim -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:20 PM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB; 'Ray - K9DUR'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Tim, CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me! (I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle) I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of sound getting into fldigi? If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been doing it with conventional radios and the decoding is instant. Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows? As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;)) One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning, I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any problems at all, the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which makes it a lot easier on the ears! For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any problems at all! For all the little Foibles I'm having here at the moment I must congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM kit, it's certainly the best receiver I have ever played with! Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote: This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems
Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19
Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. I have just purchased VAC and have version 4.10.0.2537 and have been disappointed with it, I thought it was the settings that I was using, I got them from the Flex Knowledge Centre. I've found there are huge delays getting the sound to fldigi for CW and PSK31 decoding, seems extremely slow? I'm running it on a 3.4Ghz Quad Core AMD 965 system which is showing total CPU load at 5% for 99% of the time so I know it's not the system under load causing the problem :) On SSB there is a lot of popping and audio drops outs making it almost unusable, I was about to contact the author and ask for a refund but I'll hold fire until you get a result from them and hopefully a patch fix! Please keep us informed of progress. Thanks. Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:20:56 -0500 From: Tim (W4TME) t...@flex-radio.com To: Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Caution: New VAC version, 4.10 does not work well with PowerSDR Message-ID: 4b7dcb58.8010...@flex-radio.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed To all Flexers, There is a new version of VAC, v4.10 that has been released in the past few days. Initial testing has indicated that it is *not* a drop in replacement for VAC v4.09. I have been experiencing significant audio drop outs on receive and (worse) on transmit. Changing sample rates and buffers sizes does not seem to make any improvement in the audio quality. I would strongly recommend that Flexers who utilize VAC *NOT* install VAC 4.10 until some of these issues can be rectified. If you do plan to test VAC 4.10, please do so with a dummy load until you are certain of the quality of signal you are transmitting. I have started a correspondence with the VAC developers to help identify and rectify the significant deficiencies and defects in VAC 4.10 as they pertain to its use with PowerSDR. One other note to all users. Please do not post on the reflectors the URL for VAC upgrades. This is private information and is shared with only registered users of VAC and not the thousands of users on the reflectors. The distributors of VAC don't appreciate it and obviously get a little upset if it is done since it allows their software to be easily pirated. If you are a registered user of VAC and you do not know how to get updates, you must contact the entity you purchased VAC from to get that information. -Tim -- W4TME FlexRadio Systems - Info Management Admin. Tune in Excitement ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Dave, I'm using Windows XP on a Quad Core AMD Phenom II x4 965 AM3 Black Edition CPU running at 3.4Ghz with 4GB RAM. The system load is never above 5% with everything running, PSDR, VAC, DDUtil, Fldigi, VOAcap and Band Master. The audio from VAC is quite poor to say the least, I have been quite disappointed with my purchase which I made only 2 days ago :( I'm hoping for a patch fix ASAP otherwise will be looking for a refund ;) Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:10, Dave Beumer W0DHB wrote: Tim/Mike What OS are you running with VAC 4.10 and how many CPU's ? One of the improvements in 4.10 was to spread the VAC computations over multi-cores . I've downloaded my upgrade, but holding off awaiting word from Tim . Dave W0DHB -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:56 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 58, Issue 19 Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. I have just purchased VAC and have version 4.10.0.2537 and have been disappointed with it, I thought it was the settings that I was using, I got them from the Flex Knowledge Centre. I've found there are huge delays getting the sound to fldigi for CW and PSK31 decoding, seems extremely slow? I'm running it on a 3.4Ghz Quad Core AMD 965 system which is showing total CPU load at 5% for 99% of the time so I know it's not the system under load causing the problem :) On SSB there is a lot of popping and audio drops outs making it almost unusable, I was about to contact the author and ask for a refund but I'll hold fire until you get a result from them and hopefully a patch fix! Please keep us informed of progress. Thanks. Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote: Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:20:56 -0500 From: Tim (W4TME) t...@flex-radio.com To: Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Caution: New VAC version, 4.10 does not work well with PowerSDR Message-ID: 4b7dcb58.8010...@flex-radio.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed To all Flexers, There is a new version of VAC, v4.10 that has been released in the past few days. Initial testing has indicated that it is *not* a drop in replacement for VAC v4.09. I have been experiencing significant audio drop outs on receive and (worse) on transmit. Changing sample rates and buffers sizes does not seem to make any improvement in the audio quality. I would strongly recommend that Flexers who utilize VAC *NOT* install VAC 4.10 until some of these issues can be rectified. If you do plan to test VAC 4.10, please do so with a dummy load until you are certain of the quality of signal you are transmitting. I have started a correspondence with the VAC developers to help identify and rectify the significant deficiencies and defects in VAC 4.10 as they pertain to its use with PowerSDR. One other note to all users. Please do not post on the reflectors the URL for VAC upgrades. This is private information and is shared with only registered users of VAC and not the thousands of users on the reflectors. The distributors of VAC don't appreciate it and obviously get a little upset if it is done since it allows their software to be easily pirated. If you are a registered user of VAC and you do not know how to get updates, you must contact the entity you purchased VAC from to get that information. -Tim -- W4TME FlexRadio Systems - Info Management Admin. Tune in Excitement ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Dave, I've got the VAC buffers set to 512 which is the smallest available on the drop down list, is there something else I should be looking at? Mike. On 20 Feb 2010, at 00:32, Dave Beumer W0DHB wrote: Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10
Hi Tim, CAT works fine, it's instant, tune the F3K and fldigi and BandMaster keep track of the frequency instantly, the delay seems to be with the sound getting into fldigi, I've been giving away points in the ARRL International DX CW Contest and I am decoding the morse in my head and replying to the stations and when I finish the QSO fldigi is still showing the QSO coming in, it's a long way behind me! (I'm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle) I'm using the VAC settings from the FlexRadio knowledge-base, are there any other tweaks I can make to improve the speed of sound getting into fldigi? If not, I will try hooking the F3K up to another PC's sound card running Ubuntu Linux and run fldigi on it as this is how I have been doing it with conventional radios and the decoding is instant. Maybe it is fldigi that runs slow under windows? As I said, this is my first time back on windows for many years and so I am not used to how it performs, or doesn't as the case may be ;)) One thing I must add is that the filtering on the F3K is stunning, I'm working CW stations that are on top of each other without any problems at all, the 50Hz filter is extremely useful in contest conditions and with some fine adjustment of the AGC/AF there is no ringing at all which makes it a lot easier on the ears! For a few of the stations I've actually narrowed down the filter even further from 50hz and I can still read the DX station without any problems at all! For all the little Foibles I'm having here at the moment I must congratulate the FlexRadio team on producing such a fine piece of HAM kit, it's certainly the best receiver I have ever played with! Cheers! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com On 20 Feb 2010, at 01:36, Tim Ellison wrote: This sounds like a CAT issue, not a VAC problem. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio- boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Beumer W0DHB Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:32 PM To: 'Mike Tatum'; 'Ray - K9DUR' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Mike I believe you may be able to tweak some buffer sizes to reduce the latency. The only metric I have is that there has never been any problem in quick turn Digital qso's in Various contests when I've used Fldigi and DM780 .. I'll check it out though. Remember - once you've gone VAC you'll never go back :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Mike Tatum [mailto:m...@f5vkm.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:15 PM To: Ray - K9DUR Cc: Dave Beumer W0DHB Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC 4.10 Hi Ray, I've downloaded 409 full version and have installed it. The audio is better and the delay getting the sound to fldigi is not so great now, however it's still not instant? Is this normal? I am used to connecting a PC directly to a conventional radio for sound input and the CW decoding is instantaneous by comparison. Thanks. Mike. On 19 Feb 2010, at 22:46, Ray - K9DUR wrote: Mike, Alternatively, contact the author see if he won't let you downgrade to VAC 4.9, which works fine. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading?
Hi Tim, Thanks for the explanation, it does indeed work as you describe. It would be more obvious if the SWR selection was only available when in TUN mode rather than being selectable in any mode. Cheers! Mike. On 14 Feb 2010, at 17:19, Tim Ellison wrote: The SWR meter for all Flex SDRs only operates in TUN mode. It will not show SWR when you are transmitting in other modes. See page 39 on in the FLEX-13000 Owner's Manual. http://support.flex-radio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=271 -Tim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading?
Hi Larry, It's a feature that is only available when the TUN button is depressed! Cheers! Mike. On 14 Feb 2010, at 17:20, Larry da Ponte wrote: Hi Mike. I'm observing the same swr meter reading you are even on SSB -Larry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Comm Oh Comm!
Neat utility! Thanks! Mike. On 14 Feb 2010, at 17:23, Tim Ellison wrote: It is easy. DDUtil http://k5fr.com/ddutilwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page -Tim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading?
Thanks Mario, you are of course spot on! Mike. On 14 Feb 2010, at 18:08, Mario Aviles wrote: Hi All: My 5000A does the same thing, I remember asking this same question when I first noticed this and was told this is OK, not to worry. Try using the TUNE button and set the meter to SWR, then you´ll see the correct SWR reading. Mario ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Comm Oh Comm!
Thanks Jerry! On 14 Feb 2010, at 22:36, Jerry Flanders wrote: Read up on hub4com - it can connect serials together, so multiple apps can share one port. Might work for you. Jerry W4UK ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading?
Hi Tim, I'm a CW Op so have no use for Mic/ALC/MOD monitoring hence I was interested in the SWR reading. It's not a problem as I always have an SWR meter inline, I was just interested to find out how it worked ;) I am most impressed with the filtering on the F3K, a little disappointed with the QSK and the poor Auto Notch, although I've not played with the ANF settings yet as I'm not sure I fully understand them, more reading required. I must say that the F3K is much better at pulling out the weak CW signals than either my FT1000MP or Tentec Omni VI ever were! Cheers! Mike. On 15 Feb 2010, at 22:45, Tim Ellison wrote: It sort of works that way where the meter is selectable in TUN mode. In the TX Profile, you can set what mode you want the TX meter to be in while tuning; off, SWR, fwd pwr or rev pwr. I set mine to SWR in the TX Profile and just never use the front panel to select any of those three usable meter settings listed above. Matter of fact, I never change the TX meter to anything other than MIC unless I am setting my TX EQ and mic settings. It is a WHOLE lot more important to make sure you are not clipping the mic input rather than seeing what your REF PWR or FWD PWR readings are, IMHO. -Tim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading?
Hi All, I've finally got my brand new Flex3000 on air and have to say I am very pleased with the receiver performance! The filtering on CW is truly amazing! So my first real question to the group :) Flex3000 PSDR v1.18.5 FW Driver v3.5.0.7171 F3K Firmware v1.2.5.6 in PSDR you can set the meter to read SWR during TX, which I have done, however regardless of the real SWR as measured on my SWR meter connected inline, the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1, however if I set the meter to REFPWR it shows a power reading when the SWR is high, IE: 2:1 which is correct. So can someone please do the same test and see if they get the same result, IE: the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1? If it works for you guys then perhaps my new F3K is faulty? I hope not, although the first one from the UK importer was DOA! I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Mike M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Comm Oh Comm!
Hi All, Just adding a few app's to my PSDR setup, I've downloaded and installed Comm-O-Comm and have it working perfectly with Band Master DX Cluster Client, I can now click a DXC spot and PSDR tunes instantly, great! My next thought was how do I get fldigi to talk to PSDR when the com port is already in use by Bandmaster? Until now I have always used Ubuntu Linux with fldigi and Hamlib which allows multiple app's to talk to the same radio on the same com port without any problems at all using RPC, however I am now running windows xp ( :( ) on a dedicated PC for the Flex3000 and have no idea how to get two applications to use the same comport for comm's to PSDR? Please excuse my ignorance but this is the first time I have used windows xp in about 10 years! ... Until now I always had Apple Mac and Linux in the shack with my FT1000MP and Tentec Omni Vi, both of which have been replaced by the F3K ;) I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Mike Flex3000 PSDR v1.18.5 FW Driver v3.5.0.7171 F3K Firmware v1.2.5.6 M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio Digest, Vol 57, Issue 27
Hi All, Having just bought my F3K and being an avid CW Op and having been promised by the UK Importer that the F3K will do full QSK like my previous US made rig (which I am now regretting selling!) I am deeply concerned about what is being said here on the list and also in all the emails I have received about FlexRadios and the poor CW capabilities. I am amazed a company that makes HAM radios can overlook the CW mode in such a way and am now in two minds as to what to do. I really like the Panadapter/waterfall interface to the radio, I love the filtering and no ringing capability when using very narrow filters, but I have been using QSK for years and as John has said it adds a new dimension to the mode. So my question has to be will the F3K run at 25-30WPM without QSK or is it going to drop characters? In the UK Importer shop they had a Pentium PC driving the F3K demo and said the reason it was useless (and I really do mean useless!!) at sending CW was because the PC wasn't fast enough, even with no breakin set it dropped 80-90% of the characters I sent from my twin paddle. Is this going to be the case with a fast PC ? If so, then I won;t bother spending £900 ($1500) on a new PC to drive it and will instead take the radio back and try to get my money back. (Anyone from FlexRadio on this list that can give me an official answer please? Or is this too hot a subject to coax you out of the woodwork? ) Thanks! Mike. Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:01:21 -0500 From: John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com Subject: [Flexradio] QSK -- True Grist To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz flexradio@flex-radio.biz Message-ID: 4b603921.1000...@crocker.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed This interesting thread has been active off the list-server as well as on. I strongly agree with Jay Sewell's comment (I have never...) about QSK. Clearly the dominant design/engineering thread at Flex has not thought very carefully about CW operation, and my view is that the Flex boxes are Gentlemen's Voice Communication Devices. QSK is the ability to hear, for example, a breaking station as one is calling CQ. A simple dit or two sent by a listener during the CQ should be enough to alert the CQ'ing station that someone is listening. Often, when I was using a rig capable of QSK operation, I would mention QSK during the CQ sequence, immediately to receive a key-press from a listening station. Normally I operated CW at a comfortable rate, e.g. somewhere around 20-25 wpm, and there was plenty of time for a listener to have gotten my attention. The transition from TX to RX in a QSK rig (I am told not to mention brand names on the reflector) occurs with no click, thump, or other distracting noise...the RX function is simply completely there when there is no TX output. In full QSK operation, there is no need to send -...-.- to alert a station that there will be a change-over from TX to RX; a simple key-press by the listener or a pause by the sender is enough. There are at least 2 American firms that make full lines of transceivers capable of full QSK. I have never encountered a rice- box with this capability, but there may be some. Semi-break-in is a joke in poor taste. Even though I approve of the philosophy behind the Flex designs, Mr. Sewell's last paragraph sums up my feelings in the matter, except that I think the issue is a hardware one, not something in the programming. The Flex transceivers are definitely not for inveterate CW operators, at least until this aspect is corrected. John Ragle -- W1ZI ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] PC
Hi All, This is my first posting to the list! I've just purchased a Flex 3000 and haven't yet unpacked it, which I am chomping at the bit to do! I'm in the process of putting together the spec for the dedicated PC just to control the radio. When I was at the UK importer they had a Pentium PC running the demo F3K and I found that it could not key morse at all, it dropped most of the characters even at less than 5wpm. Since I am mainly a CW Op it's imperative that the PC I purchase is able to send morse at a speed upto 35wpm using my Schurr Profi II twin paddle. So I am hoping that some of you guys who are also CW Ops can help me here! So, the spec of the PC I am thinking of is: AMD Phenom™ II X4 965 Black Quad Core Processor AM3 (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache) New Stylish Midi-Tower ATX Chassis with 550W PSU - Piano Black ASUS M4A785T-M Mainboard (DDR3), with integrated HDMI/DVI/VGA Graphics - MATX 4GB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM - (2x2GB) 2x 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB Buffer 22x Dual Layer DVD Writer Super Format +R/-R/RW/RAM 1GB ATI Radeon 5450 Graphics Accelerator GDDR5- ***DirectX 11*** 24 Iiyama (1920x1080) Full HD Monitor - Prolite E2407HDSD 7.1 High Definition onboard sound card - for 8 Channel Cinema sound 3 Port IEEE 1394 Firewire PCI Card - adds 3x IEEE1394 Windows XP SP3 What I need to know is if this is over kill? Would I be able to get away with a lower spec or not ? If so, what spec would suffice? I do want to be able to run digital modes, namely PSK and WSPR on the same PC so this must be taken into account. I have seen the recommended PC's on the FlexRadio website however no where does it mention if they will work 100% on CW without dropping characters? I look forward to some helpful advise coming my way as I want to get my F3K on air asap! Thanks. Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM Mike m...@f5vkm.com http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] PC
Hi Neal, Thanks for the reply. I'd be interested to see what spec the machines are that you use, so do please email them over to me. Do you use your F3K on on CW and how do you find it? The UK importer has assured me that it will be no different to a normal radio on CW with a high spec PC, I do hope this is the case otherwise I am going to be disappointed! Thanks! Mike. M0AWS / F5VKM On 26 Jan 2010, at 17:56, Neal Campbell wrote: Hi Mike Not overkill at all although you could get by with a cheaper system. I would be happy to send you the parts list of my low-cost and medium cost systems if you desire, they are proven winners! 73 Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Pretty Down SVN User/Password?
Hi All, Just tried to get Pretty Betty but the SVN Repo needs a username and password, can anyone tell me where I can a username and password ? Thanks. Mike. M0AWS ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
