Re: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijer
Yes the grep suggested by Mark was appropriate. I did that and it returned 
nothing.

Nslookup on the server shows the right MX records for the specific domain.
I really don't know what it is.
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From: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: get local sendmail to use MX records


Gerard Meijer wrote:
Hi Greg,
I'm absolutely sure that this is not the case anymore. I removed 
everything.
...
If I followed you correctly, server B *formerly* was the appropriate 
end point for mail for domain.com. If that is true, then on server B, 
the sendmail config probably indicates that mail destined for domain.com 
is delivered locally. Remove that indicator and it should revert to MX 
lookup behavior to find the appropriate handler for the domain. There 
may be multiple places in the sendmail config where domain.com is named 
for different purposes. Hunt them all down and kill them.
Nevertheless... the grep suggested by another poster seems completely 
appropriate. There are few other explanations than sendmail config 
error. You restarted sendmail after the config change, right?

Another test you could try would be to fire up nslookup on server B's 
command line. If you ask there for the MX record in question, do you 
actually get the right answer?

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A: Because it reverses the natural flow of a dialog.
Q: Why is top posting undesirable when replying?
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Re: Booting problems

2005-02-23 Thread Toomas Aas
Teilhard Knight wrote:
I am not an expert on FreeBSD and I am not an expert on hardware. 
Neither am I, but...
The error I get is: panic no BSP found. Anyone has
an idea of what that means? I'll give you my configuration file just in 
case someone takes the trouble to have a look at it. My machine is the HP t730m,
3GHz HT, 512 Meg of RAM.
(sznipp)
# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
BSP sounds suspiciously like something that has something to do with SMP 
(we're getting really technical here, eh?). I would try removing those 
two options from your kernel config and/or disabling Hyperthreading in 
BIOS, if that's an option.

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Re: clamd after upgrade to 0.83

2005-02-23 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
I do not have anything in /var/run/clamav and that is the location in 
clamd.conf for placing the PID file. I cannot connect to the localhost as 
well:

esmtp# telnet localhost 3310
Trying ::1...
telnet: connect to address ::1: Connection refused
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
However, according to the clamd.log, clamav is intercepting viruses. Do you 
think it is working and why would I not be able to connect via telnet or 
view the pid file if it is?

--
Robert
--On Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:35 PM +0100 Daniel S. Haischt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Usually if you are running ClamAV in UNI domain socket mode,
there should be a UNIX domain socket called 'clamd' in ...
  - /var/run/clamav
Tho - this file can be configured in /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf.
If ClamAv is running in TCP/IP mode it should be possible to
test whether the server is responding by connecting to its
TCP/IP port using a telnet client ...
  - telnet localhost 3310
Robert Fitzpatrick schrieb:
After doing a portupgrade of clamd from 0.81 to 0.83, the service
reports that it is not running using 'clamav-clamd.sh status'.
esmtp# cd /usr/local/etc
esmtp# rc.d/clamav-clamd.sh status
clamav_clamd is not running.
esmtp# ps -ax|grep clam
 781  ??  Ss 0:10.96 /usr/local/sbin/clamd
However, all seems to be fine, postfix 2.1.5, amavisd-new and clamd all
seem to be running and Webmin reports them all as running.
Any thoughts or something I should know regarding the upgrading? I
checked /usr/ports/UPDATING, but nothing regarding this. All conf files
are reflecting the new settings.
--
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how long does it takes you to do a make buildworld

2005-02-23 Thread Wouter van Rooij
I'm very curious about how long it took you guys to do a make buildworld.
So I thought let's start a topic about it.;-)
See who is the most fast and please also put your hardware in the reply:
like for example
HP 3.4ghz
250gb hd
1024mb ram
Wouter van Rooij
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Re: clamd after upgrade to 0.83

2005-02-23 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
I think the following section in /usr/local/amavisd.conf
should answer your question:
  ### http://www.clamav.net/   - backs up clamd or Mail::ClamAV
  ['ClamAV-clamscan', 'clamscan',
--stdout --disable-summary -r --tempdir=$TEMPBASE {}, [0], [1],
qr/^.*?: (?!Infected Archive)(.*) FOUND$/ ],
Basically if clamd is not running Amavis will execute the
commandline scanner version of ClamAV. That's the reason why
you are still getting log entries.
So to sumarize: ClamAV's daemon is not running, thus
there is neither a PID file nor a UNIX domain socket.
So if you want to use the daemonized version of ClamAV,
you need to elaborate why the daemon isn't started.
Robert Fitzpatrick schrieb:
I do not have anything in /var/run/clamav and that is the location in 
clamd.conf for placing the PID file. I cannot connect to the localhost 
as well:

esmtp# telnet localhost 3310
Trying ::1...
telnet: connect to address ::1: Connection refused
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
However, according to the clamd.log, clamav is intercepting viruses. Do 
you think it is working and why would I not be able to connect via 
telnet or view the pid file if it is?

--
Robert
--On Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:35 PM +0100 Daniel S. Haischt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Usually if you are running ClamAV in UNI domain socket mode,
there should be a UNIX domain socket called 'clamd' in ...
  - /var/run/clamav
Tho - this file can be configured in /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf.
If ClamAv is running in TCP/IP mode it should be possible to
test whether the server is responding by connecting to its
TCP/IP port using a telnet client ...
  - telnet localhost 3310
Robert Fitzpatrick schrieb:
After doing a portupgrade of clamd from 0.81 to 0.83, the service
reports that it is not running using 'clamav-clamd.sh status'.
esmtp# cd /usr/local/etc
esmtp# rc.d/clamav-clamd.sh status
clamav_clamd is not running.
esmtp# ps -ax|grep clam
 781  ??  Ss 0:10.96 /usr/local/sbin/clamd
However, all seems to be fine, postfix 2.1.5, amavisd-new and clamd all
seem to be running and Webmin reports them all as running.
Any thoughts or something I should know regarding the upgrading? I
checked /usr/ports/UPDATING, but nothing regarding this. All conf files
are reflecting the new settings.
--
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Re: how long does it takes you to do a make buildworld

2005-02-23 Thread Wouter van Rooij
You remembered to add your hardware but you completly forgot to add how
long it takes you to do a make buildworld. :)

Ben

I was wondering how long it would take before i'm deciding to do it myself;-)
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Andrew L. Gould writes:

 You can still find FreeBSD at Fry's Electronics and MicroCenter.  I
 don't know if CompUSA still carries it.  I have mixed feelings about 
 FreeBSD 5.0-5.2.1 being sold in the retail market.

How so?  Seems like it would be a good idea to me.

I see that one can still order 5.3 over the Internet.  Since I burned my
own CDs I don't necessarily need it (although a more permanent CD would
be nice), but if I did buy it it would be mostly to support the project
(provided that the project got the money).

 I see no similarity between Microsoft and Open Source OS vendors on
 either of these points.

Perhaps the similarities will become more obvious with time.

 Let's face it, without commercialism, Linux development would not have
 benefited from the likes of IBM or HP. Likewise, without
 commercialism, there would be very few, if any, *BSD or Linux
 developers performing open source development for a living. The money
 has to come from somewhere.

True.  It's virtually inevitable.

 Fourth, I appreciate all the hard work that goes into developing and
 packaging an operating system and its related applications.  I am happy
 to pay for the convenience of an operating system on a DVD.  It's only
 fair that the vendor be able to recover cost.  If earning a little 
 profit motivates them to continue providing a great service, all the 
 better.

Fine.  Except that distributors are barely doing anything more than
repackaging someone else's work.  They didn't write Linux.

-- 
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Laurence Sanford writes:

 Well, I don't use KDE because I don't particularly like heavyweight
 software unless I need it ...

Heavyweight in the sense of resources required, or complexity, or what?

I got the impression that KDE was the one that everyone used.

Which window manager most closely approximates the GUI of traditional
UNIX workstations?

Is it possible to install multiple X servers on the same machine so that
one can fire up whichever one strikes one's fancy at a given time?

-- 
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:39:08 +0100
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jacob S writes:
 
  So, FreeBSD is vulnerable to this same hypocrasy; where it is sold
  in stores but still hailed as a free OS?
 
 The FreeBSD was at an unbeatable price--I think it was only $10 or so,
 just a bit more than the packaging cost.  That's not the case for
 Linux, which I see going for prices well in excess of $100 ...
 perilously close to the price of an OEM copy of Windows.

You're confusing the boxed sets of Linux distributions with simply
buying cds. Debian does not do boxed sets. 

There is not anything that prevents retailers from still selling the cd
sets for cheap prices. There are still some retailers that sell
just the minimal cd sets, it is just unfortunate that there are not
any big chains doing this (that I know of). Boxed sets, however,
usually come with a book and support- something that is worth
considerably more than a few reusable plastic coasters.

 But the thing that disturbs me is that all of Windows was actually
 written by Microsoft or licensed from someone else who wrote it,
 whereas all of Linux (more or less) was written for free.  So how can
 Linux distributors get away with charging $200 for software if
 Microsoft is charging only slightly more?  The Linux crowd certainly
 didn't pay anyone to develop any of the software they're selling.

Please see Chad's e-mail about the difference between free-as-in-speech
and free-as-in-food. It doesn't matter how much they charge if it is
still licensed as free-as-in-speech - because you or I could buy a
copy, burn our own copies of it and sell it $10 cheaper than them and
still be legal.

  Except that's simply listing the ways you can get Debian.
 
 But they list the money way first, like every other site.

Yep, and FreeBSD lists the money way before the download way, too. See
http://www.freebsd.org/where.html. Your point?

Debian does not get paid for listing cd vendors, which I'm sure is the
same way with FreeBSD.

  If that makes Debian non-free, then FreeBSD is non-free too (or used
  to be) - when you purchased version 4.3 from a computer store.
 
 True.  But it was much more reasonably priced than Linux, and it was a
 very good buy in consequence.

You're generalizing again - using other Linux distributions'
boxed-set prices to prove that Debian is hypocritical. 

Please see
http://www.easylinuxcds.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=49osCsid=62927e80e86dcc3defbb63e36a224a3d
where they sell Debian (and other distributions of Linux) and FreeBSD
for the same price per cd. Or you could look at www.freebsdmall.com and
www.bsdmall.com where the bsd prices are closer to $10 per cd, instead
of the $2 - 3 per cd price for Linux from www.linuxmall.com. 

  Except you haven't proven that Debian has a trend towards
  commercialism.
 
 Fine.  Wait and see.

I'd rather not wait. Why let good software go down the drain? :-) 

snip
  And, by the way, if you look at www.debian.org and www.freebsd.org,
  you will notice that they are both owned by non-profit
  organizations. That's totally different from a Microsoft-style
  business model.
 
 Some of the wealthiest organizations in the world are non-profit. 
 All that means is that they make sure they have no money left over
 after expenses (sometimes by paying high salaries to their employees).
 There's nothing magic or high-minded about non-profit organizations.

But just because some non-profit organizations are wealthy does not
prove that Debian is 1) wealthy or 2) hypocritical.

Jacob
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Creating a boot diskette that does nothing but boot from hard disk

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Is it possible to create a boot diskette that does nothing more than
boot from a specific hard disk?  How would I go about doing so?

If I can't figure out why my system won't boot from the hard disk on its
own, I figure that perhaps I could create a diskette to pop into the
machine that would simple boot immediately from the hard disk.  It
shouldn't require much code and should easily fit on a single diskette.

The method I'm using at the moment of changing floppies for ten minutes
then entering the loader and changing parameters and booting is much too
awkward.

-- 
Anthony


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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Laurence Sanford
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Laurence Sanford writes:
 

Well, I don't use KDE because I don't particularly like heavyweight
software unless I need it ...
   

Heavyweight in the sense of resources required, or complexity, or what?
I got the impression that KDE was the one that everyone used.
Which window manager most closely approximates the GUI of traditional
UNIX workstations?
Is it possible to install multiple X servers on the same machine so that
one can fire up whichever one strikes one's fancy at a given time?
 

In the sense of resource usage is what I mean when I say heavy weight. 
While KDE is quite popular, there are probly (litterally) hundreds of 
window managers that will run under X, so saying Everyone uses N window 
manager is going to be patently false.

You'll only need one X server - what you're looking at having multiple 
versions of is the window manager. That's what runs over top of X to 
provide the style.
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djbdns question

2005-02-23 Thread Darryl Hoar
Greetings,
I setup djbdns on a freebsd server attached to my internal network.
It answers for the local machine on the domain for my internal while
forwarding all others to our ISP for resolution.

I set this up a 2 years ago and haven't needed to do a thing other
than to add/remove machines.

Well, now I need to change the domain name from osborneindustries.com
to osborneinternal.com.  Unfortunately, I haven't found any documentation
that takes you through the changes to convert and already running
tinydns/dnscache
setup from one domain name to a different one.

Anybody have any pointers here ?

thanks,
Darryl


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Re: how long does it takes you to do a make buildworld

2005-02-23 Thread RW
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 20:21, Wouter van Rooij wrote:
 You remembered to add your hardware but you completly forgot to add how
 long it takes you to do a make buildworld. :)
 
 Ben

 I was wondering how long it would take before i'm deciding to do it
 myself;-)

It's not a major build, I think it's about 3 hours on my P3 (700MHz/512MB)

When you are building a different version, as opposed picking up minor bug 
fixes, it's the hassle of merging the configuration files that's the problem.
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Re: beeps at shutdown

2005-02-23 Thread Hanspeter Roth
  On Feb 23 at 04:56, scott spoke:

 man kbdcontrol
 
 you can also add 
 
 keybell=off 
 
 to your /etc/rc.conf file

Ok, thanks!

I'll try kbdcontrol since a setting in /etc/rc.conf will affect the
whole uptime.

-Hanspeter
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USB backup from APC?

2005-02-23 Thread Ralph
Hey all,
  Just curious if APC's battery backups over USB work
in FreeBSD, and how I would go about setting one up...
I've never done it before so go easy on a newbie.

Thanks.

=
Ralph Los
Information Security Consultant
bOUNDARIEZ
 
[m y  b l o g]

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:24:36 +0100
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrew L. Gould writes:
snip
  Fourth, I appreciate all the hard work that goes into developing and
  packaging an operating system and its related applications.  I am
  happy to pay for the convenience of an operating system on a DVD. 
  It's only fair that the vendor be able to recover cost.  If earning
  a little profit motivates them to continue providing a great
  service, all the better.
 
 Fine.  Except that distributors are barely doing anything more than
 repackaging someone else's work.  They didn't write Linux.

And how would you classify all of the Gnu and gpl software, or the
Linux software that runs under the Linux compatability layer in FreeBSD?
KDE, Nmap, Xfree86, x.org, mailman, exim, qmail and ezmlm are
just a few that come to mind.

Sorry, but I think you need to look under the hood better at Linux
before you say it's just being repackaged. Linux distributions may not
write their own kernels, but they do all help with development of the
Linux kernel. And there are at least 4 different methods of installing
packages that I can think of, from different distributions (Slackware's
tar.gz, Redhat's .rpm, Debian's .deb and Gentoo's ebuild).

Jacob
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 02:24 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Andrew L. Gould writes:
  You can still find FreeBSD at Fry's Electronics and MicroCenter.  I
  don't know if CompUSA still carries it.  I have mixed feelings
  about FreeBSD 5.0-5.2.1 being sold in the retail market.

 How so?  Seems like it would be a good idea to me.

5.0-5.2.1 weren't labelled STABLE.  I worry about the uninformed 
assuming they're buying a STABLE version.


 I see that one can still order 5.3 over the Internet.  Since I burned
 my own CDs I don't necessarily need it (although a more permanent CD
 would be nice), but if I did buy it it would be mostly to support the
 project (provided that the project got the money).

  I see no similarity between Microsoft and Open Source OS vendors on
  either of these points.

 Perhaps the similarities will become more obvious with time.

Perhaps you should apply for a position at Microsoft.  After all, FUD is 
a Microsoft tactic.


  Let's face it, without commercialism, Linux development would not
  have benefited from the likes of IBM or HP. Likewise, without
  commercialism, there would be very few, if any, *BSD or Linux
  developers performing open source development for a living. The
  money has to come from somewhere.

 True.  It's virtually inevitable.

No.  Open Source projects could continue developing at the slow rate 
allowed by developers' spare time.   _Fortunately_, that is not 
necessary.


  Fourth, I appreciate all the hard work that goes into developing
  and packaging an operating system and its related applications.  I
  am happy to pay for the convenience of an operating system on a
  DVD.  It's only fair that the vendor be able to recover cost.  If
  earning a little profit motivates them to continue providing a
  great service, all the better.

 Fine.  Except that distributors are barely doing anything more than
 repackaging someone else's work.  They didn't write Linux.

The distros (SUSE,  for example) do quite of bit of distro-specific 
development (YAST, for example) and shared development (reiserfs, for 
example).  They also fund Linux development by hiring Linux kernel and 
application developers.  As for the vendors that just sell CD's, the 
prices vary with what the market will pay.  There are plenty of very 
inexpensive sources for the *BSD or Linux CD's; so there's no excuse 
for anyone to pay too much.

It's easy to be cynical; but you'll be much happier if you give reality 
a chance.

Andrew Gould
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RE: how long does it takes you to do a make buildworld

2005-02-23 Thread Subhro
Mine took about 23 mins for the whole buildworld buildkernel cycle.

AMD64 3000+
ASUS K8V SE DELUXE
1024M PC400 DDR RAM
2*120G Maxtor SATA Drives in RAID-0 ARRAY


Indian Institute of Information Technology
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PIN 700091
India
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 Subject: how long does it takes you to do a make buildworld
 
 I'm very curious about how long it took you guys to do a make buildworld.
 So I thought let's start a topic about it.;-)
 See who is the most fast and please also put your hardware in the reply:
 like for example
 HP 3.4ghz
 250gb hd
 1024mb ram
 Wouter van Rooij
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
I'm still quite ambivalent about it.  I keep wondering if Linux is
different enough and useful enough to be worth dedicating this machine
to it ... or if I should just continue with FreeBSD and install X on the
machine (and KDE, probably, since it seems to be popular, although I
welcome suggestions).
Which window manager is the closest to classic UNIX window managers (as
opposed to wannabe Windows products)?
 

Well, you can do a little research yourself (I'm sure you will at some
point, anyway):
(Hmm, a store?  Browse screenshots and descriptions):
http://xwinman.org/
(A comparison article, 5 wm's and the XFCE environment):
   http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=8346
IIRC, there's also a rather large thread on bsdforums.org where
people are showing off their desktops.  You could also get
a look-see there...
As for my own experience, I can't really answer your question,
because classic UNIX window managers is somewhat meaningless
to me as a newbie.
Part of Free Software is freedom of choice as you well know.
There are so many choices out there that your head can spin
while looking.  My experience:
1.  BlackBox.  Small, light, fast.  To me, rather mouse oriented.
Collapsing menus.  A small app bar at the top, but no default
icon support, etc.
2.  FluxBox.  BlackBox with more themes*.
3.  Enlightenment.  Larger then bb/fb.  I didn't stick with it
long at all, so I can't say much else.
4.  XFCE.  I liked it ... BSD licensed (IIRC), no larger than
Enlightenment, certainly.  One toolbar in default install,
a few default tools.  Icons on the toolbar (can't remember
if you can put 'em on the desktop in default install).
5.  GNOME.  On my desktop now ... why?  Curiosity, I guess.
Lots of tools, takes lots of muscle.  Probably a windows wannabe
as you say (but it crashes less ... ;-).  I wouldn't put a new KDE
or GNOME on a very old box, but maybe I don't know how to
go about that very well (I know there is a gnome-lite, and there
is probably a corresponding light KDE).  It seems a tad slow ATM, but
this box runs as gateway/firewall, SMTP/POP3, http (development
server), DNS, rsyncd, samba on the office network, plus currently
9 windows in Mozilla, 23 in Opera, mail client, Dictionary app,
this compose window, 5-6 terminals running SSH to 3 servers
across 4 desktops, the GIMP with a rather big photo open, and a
small word processor document.)
There are so many other WMs.  It all depends on how you work.
And, you can run some toolbars/docks, iconifying program, pretty
much any X application, whatever, on just about anything --
tools, not policy after all. 

Greg Lehey, for example, states (~to the effect of~) I'm not into
eye candy, and runs something rather simple (twm? fvwm?) that's
all configured exactly the way he wants it across several monitors,
at rather/very high resolution(s).  He either has great eyesight,
or has good glasses, I guess (and it's pure speculation and
nothing personal at all) because he works surrounded by words,
words, and more words, I suppose, whether it's code, mail, whatever. 

I'm different, I was a M$ user for quite a while, and apart from
the differences in  the toolbar at the bottom and the fact that
I have top and right-side toolbars also, I'm not sure my desktop
looks much different than it did back on Win98. (Well, on 10 items
on this desktop --- but the toolbars [32 launchers now] make up for it.)
Except, it never turns blue and give me ominous white letters, nor
does it ever lockup without leaving me some option besides a
power cycle.
Kevin Kinsey
*I'm sure there are other things, and my descriptions are
at best those of the uninitiated.  My apologies to the devoted,
I do not aim to offend.  That would extend to all users of
$YOUR_WM_HERE
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Re: Problems with installing freeBSD 4.8

2005-02-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 01:36:29PM +0100, Richard Jansson wrote:
 Hello
 I am facing some problems with installing FreeBSD 4.8.

Try a later release.

Kris


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Re: Error installing 5.3-release before sysinstall

2005-02-23 Thread Nick

I just realized that I broke the thread.  For continuity's sake, here is my
post, again:

If I choose too boot without ACPI, then that 
particular warning is removed. 
 OK, so can't you just do this?  Many older
 systems do not support ACPIbrproperly (i.e. they only support it to the 
 level required to run windows), so you just need to disable it to run FreeBSD 
 on them.
When I said that particular warning is removed I meant that the ACPI warning
is removed; the other errors are still there and it still does not continue
on into the configuration/installation menus.

So it continues and prompts me that the computer will be automatically rebooted.
nick




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Subject: Re: Error installing 5.3-release before sysinstall

On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 04:37:15PM -0500, Nick wrote:br br I am attempting
 to upgrade my system from 4.9 to 5.3-RELEASE.  I removed mybr 4.9 partition 
using /stand/sysinstall.  Next, I booted from the mininstall CD, br and a 
menu with the beastie and seven boot options is presented.  When I br attempt
 any of the boot options, it gives errors and warns me of an Automatic br 
reboot in 15 seconds.  br br The lines leading up to this warning 
are:br ***br ep0:  eeprom failed ot come ready.br ep0:  ep_alloc() 
failed! (6)br panic:  resource_list_release:  resource entry is not busybr
 Uptime: 1sbr Shutting down ACPIbr br br If I choose too boot 
without ACPI, then that particular warning is removed.  brbrOK, so can't you
 just do this?  Many older systems do not support ACPIbrproperly (i.e. they 
only support it to the level required to runbrwindows), so you just need to 
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Eterm transparency problem.

2005-02-23 Thread Gordon Freeman
Is anyone else having a problem with Eterm 0.9.3?

I love its transparency ability and had it set up with the following user.cfg:

Eterm-0.9.2
begin color
foreground rgb:ff/ff/ff
end

begin attributes
font fx none
end

begin image
type background
mode trans
cmod image 100
end

begin toggles
itrans on
buttonbar off
xterm_select on
end

begin misc
term_name xterm
end

Prior to the 0.9.3 update this shaded the terminal window a little
less than 50%. Now it shades it a blue tint. Trying just the --O and
--shade options yields identical results. However, if I don't use
transparency the --shade option works correctly.

Anyone seen a similar error? 

Slight tangent question:
Is emailing the maintainer the only way to report a bug to a port? The
FreeBSD PR system looks like it isn't intended for ports.
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Mike Hauber
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 02:34 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Mike Hauber writes:
  What kind of problems are you having with FreeBSD?  There was
  a non-specific mention of errors regarding your hard drive,
  but said everything was working ok.

 I mentioned the main error in a separate thread: After
 successfully installing the OS, I simply cannot persuade the
 machine to boot from the hard disk.  It just blanks the screen
 and stops.  It must be booting _something_, because it normally
 puts up an error message if it cannot find the boot information
 it expects.  So I presume it's passing control to garbage read
 from the disk and this is halting the system silently.

 If I boot from floppy, no problem.  And if I boot from the
 install floppy and then enter the loader, unload the kernel,
 switch the current device to my boot disk (the hard disk), and
 boot from the loader, it comes up instantly.  So there is some
 part of the boot process that's not working.

 I installed FreeBSD with a standard MBR on both disks, and I
 set the first disk to bootable, but this doesn't seem to
 help, although I'm still trying.

 The other problem I have is SCSI errors that generate massive
 streams of console error messages, although they don't appear
 to be errors that cause data loss.  I got these while moving
 ports onto my machine.  Now that I think about it, I think it
 might be a conflict with an old ISDN card that is still mounted
 in the machine ... hmm.  Anyway, that's secondary.

 I'm sure there are no hardware problems on this machine; it has
 been running flawlessly for eight years.  So anything that
 doesn't work is software.


Found the thread...  Have you tried installing an older version?  
(4.4, for example?)  I've had a lot of issues trying to install 
FreeBSD =4.9 on pre 586s, but mostly they were setup for a quick 
showtell (latest  greatest wasn't really necessary).

Not saying that you should settle for an older version, but it may 
help in discovering what the issues are.

  (I like the drake, though...  It's what I usually recommend
  for people who are wanting to try something other than
  windows and don't have the knowledge (desire to learn)
  necessary to build up a system of their own).

 I'm still quite ambivalent about it.  I keep wondering if Linux
 is different enough and useful enough to be worth dedicating
 this machine to it ... or if I should just continue with
 FreeBSD and install X on the machine (and KDE, probably, since
 it seems to be popular, although I welcome suggestions).


I came to FreeBSD first after deciding that I worked too hard to 
spend any more money on an OS I couldn't depend on (kinda like I 
won't spend money on certain types of video games because they 
ultimately do nothing but parse me off :) ).  Frustrated, I 
bounced back and forth between anything I could get my hands on 
(legally, of course).  I have an entire CD book filled with 
Linuses that I've tried, but ultimately settled with the BSDs.  

Some of the Linuses are great, but I've come to appreciate the 
BSDs more than anything else.  Because of this, I make my 
investments in things that I actually appreciate.

I only suggest Mandrake to people just coming out of windows as to 
to help minimize the frustrations that I went through (I guess 
I'm a symphathiser of sorts, but not so much that I'm willing to 
hold their hand :) ).  

If someone is comfortable enough that they'll actually use the man 
command, ask intelligent questions, and appreciate the 
documentation that's out there (ie, read), then I definately 
suggest a BSD.  (ie, if you can install FreeBSD and setup X, then 
why bother with Mandrake?)  Not that it's a bad OS, just that 
I've found that people who know how/where to learn will come to 
appreciate the BSDs over the other options.

 Which window manager is the closest to classic UNIX window
 managers (as opposed to wannabe Windows products)?

Well...  There's a lot of options available.  Personally, I prefer 
something like blackbox for administrative logins.  It's _very_ 
lightweight and (like all things should be), you pretty much 
build it from the ground up.  

Mike
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FTP server problems

2005-02-23 Thread Ulf Magnusson
I'm trying to set up a FTP server using vsftpd. Everything works fine as long 
as I connect via localhost, but external hosts can't seem to connect to my 
server. Connecting using the internal IP (192.168.0.3) from another system 
connected to the same router works.

My router (NETGEAR DG834) is set up to forward ports 20 and 21, plus 3000-3050 
for PASV. My vsftpd.conf looks as follows:


listen=YES

anonymous_enable=NO
dirmessage_enable=YES

connect_from_port_20=YES

nopriv_user=vsftpnpu

local_enable=YES
userlist_enable=YES
userlist_deny=NO
userlist_file=/root/vsftpd.user_list
chroot_local_user=YES

pasv_min_port=3000
pasv_max_port=3050

xferlog_enable=YES
log_ftp_protocol=YES


Any ideas?

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/dev/io after kernel recompiling on a 5.3 stable

2005-02-23 Thread Petre Bandac
after I recompiled the kernel, xorg doesn't start, stating something
about cannot finding /dev/io

booting with kernel.old (GENERIC) works fine

what option I forgot in KERNCONF ?

thanks,

petre

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awk print

2005-02-23 Thread David Bear
I'm using awk to parse a directory listing. I was hoping there is a
way to tell awk to print from $2 - to the end of the columns
available. 

find ./ -name '*stuff' | awk '{FS=/ print $3---'}

the $3-- I want to mean -- print from col 3 to the end.

Any awk pros?

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Re: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Lars Kristiansen
 No, that is not the solution. It could be, but it's not what I want.

 An example:

 domain: domain.com
 domain.com is hosted on server B. The MX record for domain.com says that
 server A handles the mail of domain.com. So [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be
 handled by server A.

Do you mean that your /bin/hostname show domain.com and not
machine.domain.com?

Anyway, you may have the option to bury the problem by using smart_host
and mail_hub:
 like this in sendmail.mc:
define(`SMART_HOST',`serverA.domain.com.')dnl
define(`MAIL_HUB',`serverA.domain.com.')dnl


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 This works, but now on server B there runs a script that sends an e-mail
 to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] . What SHOULD happen is that sendmail on server B looks
 up
 the MX record for domain.com, sees that server A handles the mail for
 domain.com and sends the mail to server A. What happens is that sendmail
 recognizes the domain as hosted on that machine and uses localhost to
 deliver the mail. It looks for user gerard (in this example), which
 doesn't
 exist.

 I agree with you, a solution would be to set in the alias file of server B
 something like gerard: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . If this was about just one
 e-mailaddress, it wouldn't be a problem, but I'm actually talking about a
 little more then one address.

 So that's not a good solution for me.

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 To: Gerard Meijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:30 PM
 Subject: Re: get local sendmail to use MX records


 GM Hi,

 GM I have the following situation:

 GM I have moved my mail services from my dedicated server to another
 server.  The MX records were updated at the DNS host to point to the
 other
 server.  Email from the outside is being routed
 GM correctly to the new server, but now the local scripts on the
 dedicated server are still being routed to the local accounts and not
 actually sent to the other server.

 GM So sendmail on the first server tries to use localhost as a relay,
 instead of looking up the MX records for the domain.

 GM Anybody knows how to solve this?

 GM Thanks!

 GM Gerard
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 Quick and dirty: /etc/mail/aliases
 putting in something like root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] should do the
 trick. Or am I missing something ?

 Hexren

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Re: /dev/io after kernel recompiling on a 5.3 stable

2005-02-23 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 23), Petre Bandac said:
 after I recompiled the kernel, xorg doesn't start, stating something
 about cannot finding /dev/io
 
 booting with kernel.old (GENERIC) works fine
 
 what option I forgot in KERNCONF ?

device io

It used to be included by default, but now you have to ask for it.  You
may also want to add device mem.

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Re: /dev/io after kernel recompiling on a 5.3 stable

2005-02-23 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
Try searching the mailing list archive for an answer!
This question has been answered before.
Solution #1: Recompile your kernel with 'device io'.
Solution #2: Ensure that the io.ko kernel module gets
loaded at boot time.
Petre Bandac schrieb:
after I recompiled the kernel, xorg doesn't start, stating something
about cannot finding /dev/io
booting with kernel.old (GENERIC) works fine
what option I forgot in KERNCONF ?
thanks,
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Re: FTP server problems

2005-02-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:35:25 +0100
Ulf Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to set up a FTP server using vsftpd. Everything works fine
 as long as I connect via localhost, but external hosts can't seem to
 connect to my server. Connecting using the internal IP (192.168.0.3)
 from another system connected to the same router works.
 
 My router (NETGEAR DG834) is set up to forward ports 20 and 21, plus
 3000-3050 for PASV. My vsftpd.conf looks as follows:
 

my vsftpd-setup works fine, see below the differences in the
config-file, (and are you running ipfw or pf or ipfilter on the
ftp-server itself ?), HTH

 
 listen=YES
 

listen=YES
listen_address=192.168.2.16

 pasv_min_port=3000
 pasv_max_port=3050

pasv_enable=YES
pasv_min_port=49152
pasv_max_port=65534
pasv_address=192.168.2.16
pasv_promiscuous=YES

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Re: Problems with installing freeBSD 4.8

2005-02-23 Thread Mike Hauber
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 07:36 am, Richard Jansson wrote:
 Hello
 computer tell me thats it reseting the console. Num lock and
 Caps lock stops working. And on the display i can read these
 words reseting ata0 

can you be more specific on this error?  

Mike
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Re: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Gerard Meijer
I really don't understand it at all now.
When I run sendmail in test mode (sendmail -bt) and I do:
3,0 [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get:
canonify   input: something @ domain . com
Canonify2  input: something  @ domain . com 
Canonify2returns: something  @ domain . com . 
canonify returns: something  @ domain . com . 
parse  input: something  @ domain . com . 
Parse0 input: something  @ domain . com . 
Parse0   returns: something  @ domain . com . 
ParseLocal input: something  @ domain . com . 
ParseLocal   returns: something  @ domain . com . 
Parse1 input: something  @ domain . com . 
Parse1   returns: $# local $: something
parsereturns: $# local $: something
So obviously sendmail thinks it should handle the mail. Strange thing is 
that I have 6 domains hosted on this server and I get this outcome by two of 
them. One is the domain I'm talking about and the other one is 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] works as it should work 
and goes to the other server.

I emptied my virtusertable and local-host-names files. I really don't know 
why this happens.
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Subject: Re: get local sendmail to use MX records


Gerard Meijer wrote:
Hi Greg,
I'm absolutely sure that this is not the case anymore. I removed 
everything.
...
If I followed you correctly, server B *formerly* was the appropriate 
end point for mail for domain.com. If that is true, then on server B, 
the sendmail config probably indicates that mail destined for domain.com 
is delivered locally. Remove that indicator and it should revert to MX 
lookup behavior to find the appropriate handler for the domain. There 
may be multiple places in the sendmail config where domain.com is named 
for different purposes. Hunt them all down and kill them.
Nevertheless... the grep suggested by another poster seems completely 
appropriate. There are few other explanations than sendmail config 
error. You restarted sendmail after the config change, right?

Another test you could try would be to fire up nslookup on server B's 
command line. If you ask there for the MX record in question, do you 
actually get the right answer?

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ISDN sPPP connection does not work

2005-02-23 Thread David Nies
Hello everybody!

I've been trying to get my internet connection back to work for five days now, 
but it still does not work. 

I am using FreeBSD 5.3 and I want to try to connect PPP over an ISDN connection 
- I use a AVM Fritz! PCI v2 as an internal isdn-adapter.

It does not work, and I don't get error messages (at least none I can 
understand) so that I have to bother you :-)
I want to ask a very general question: if I want to use PPP over ISDN, I need 
to add ``isdn_enable=YES'' and ``ppp_enable=YES'' to my rc.conf. The man 
pages of rc.conf say that if I add these lines, both the pppd and the isdnd 
will be started upon system boot. But if I try ``ps aux | grep isdnd'' or ``ps 
aux | grep pppd'', both these deamons are not started. Right now, I do really 
consider this to be the main (or at least one of the main) mistakes.

Can you please help me? I'm really getting upset. The whole configuration of 
FreeBSD worked so good until now.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: /dev/io after kernel recompiling on a 5.3 stable

2005-02-23 Thread petre
what about /proc ?

do I need it (if I use linux compatibility) ?



 In the last episode (Feb 23), Petre Bandac said:
 after I recompiled the kernel, xorg doesn't start, stating something
 about cannot finding /dev/io

 booting with kernel.old (GENERIC) works fine

 what option I forgot in KERNCONF ?

 device io

 It used to be included by default, but now you have to ask for it.  You
 may also want to add device mem.

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Re: /dev/io after kernel recompiling on a 5.3 stable

2005-02-23 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 24), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 what about /proc ?
 
 do I need it (if I use linux compatibility) ?

It depends.  I have /proc mounted for truss, but I don't have linprocfs
mounted, and I haven't had any problems running linux apps.

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Laurence Sanford writes:
 

Well, I don't use KDE because I don't particularly like heavyweight
software unless I need it ...
   

Heavyweight in the sense of resources required, or complexity, or what?
I got the impression that KDE was the one that everyone used.
 

Hmm, now a different thread, perhaps?  Different WM's marketshare?
It's pretty much to each his own out here, I'd say.  (see my earlier).
Which window manager most closely approximates the GUI of traditional
UNIX workstations?
 

Well, once again, I dunno.  I will mention that AfterStep is
NextStep's successor, I think.
Is it possible to install multiple X servers on the same machine so that
one can fire up whichever one strikes one's fancy at a given time?
 

I don't see why not, although it'd probably be more common to simply
kill one wm session and start another to save resources.  Maybe it's
possible.  I don't know if, since you've just one DISPLAY (in theory, 
anyhow)
you would configure it.

Hmm, just tested.  No can do, because just one DISPLAY.  Maybe some
X guru has a solution.  GNOME on ttyv1, fluxbox on ttyv2, term on ttyv3
etc., etc Would be pretty cool.
Now, if you have two video cards
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread markzero
 Is it possible to install multiple X servers on the same machine so that
 one can fire up whichever one strikes one's fancy at a given time?
 
 I don't see why not, although it'd probably be more common to simply
 kill one wm session and start another to save resources.  Maybe it's
 possible.  I don't know if, since you've just one DISPLAY (in theory, 
 anyhow)
 you would configure it.
 
 Hmm, just tested.  No can do, because just one DISPLAY.  Maybe some
 X guru has a solution.  GNOME on ttyv1, fluxbox on ttyv2, term on ttyv3
 etc., etc Would be pretty cool.
 

This is certainly possible. You need to start X via something other than
startx as you must manually set DISPLAY vars. I have run two X servers on
my machine many times - one running a local desktop environment and the
other running a WM from a remote box over SSH (for no particular reason
other than that it's fun).

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RE: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread bob wifi hotspot n evdo wireless internet guy
I know.. This is a google question... But anyone know the speed of
USB???

I am considering modifying our wireless modem pcmcia to usb instead...
X
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hosts.allow

2005-02-23 Thread kalin mintchev

hi all...

i have some crap in my log like:

Feb 23 16:56:45 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#63869: update
'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
Feb 23 16:56:46 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#62855: update
'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
Feb 23 17:02:10 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#63999: update
'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
Feb 23 17:16:20 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#62723: update
'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
Feb 23 17:16:59 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#63975: update
'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
Feb 23 17:20:38 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#63873: update
'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
Feb 23 17:21:05 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#64057: update
'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied


so i put:

ALL : 218.19.160.163 : deny

in my hosts.allow but i still get that log piling up

isn't the that line in hosts.allow avoiding that? should i restart something?


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Re: clamd after upgrade to 0.83

2005-02-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
After doing a portupgrade of clamd from 0.81 to 0.83, the service 
reports that it is not running using 'clamav-clamd.sh status'.

esmtp# cd /usr/local/etc
esmtp# rc.d/clamav-clamd.sh status
clamav_clamd is not running.
esmtp# ps -ax|grep clam
 781  ??  Ss 0:10.96 /usr/local/sbin/clamd
However, all seems to be fine, postfix 2.1.5, amavisd-new and clamd all 
seem to be running and Webmin reports them all as running.

Any thoughts or something I should know regarding the upgrading? I 
checked /usr/ports/UPDATING, but nothing regarding this. All conf files 
are reflecting the new settings.

Check access on the relevant directories. By default, clamav runs as 
user 'clamav' but amavisd runs as user 'vscan' so the directories where 
the pid, socket AND virus database all need to be reconciled to 
whichever user you run these as. I use 'vscan' so I pass the CLAMAVUSER 
and CLAMAVGROUP this value when I 'make install' clamav initially. Then, 
I add these to /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf so that the next portupgrade 
doesn't undo it.

Hope that helps,
G
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Re: hosts.allow

2005-02-23 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 23), kalin mintchev said:
 i have some crap in my log like:
 
 Feb 23 16:56:45 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#63869: update 
 'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
 Feb 23 16:56:46 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#62855: update 
 'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
 Feb 23 17:02:10 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#63999: update 
 'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
 Feb 23 17:16:20 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#62723: update 
 'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
 Feb 23 17:16:59 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#63975: update 
 'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
 Feb 23 17:20:38 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#63873: update 
 'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
 Feb 23 17:21:05 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#64057: update 
 'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied
 
 so i put:
 
 ALL : 218.19.160.163 : deny
 
 in my hosts.allow but i still get that log piling up

Named isn't built with tcpwrapper support; it would probably cause too
much overhead.  Chances are the machine at 218.19.160.163 is a windows
XP machine at your location, with Dynamic DNS updating enabled.  Just
go into the TCP/IP prefs and disable it.
 
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Re: ssh, sftp, and public key authentication

2005-02-23 Thread dave
Hello,
Thanks for your reply. I have done this. My problem comes in when i ssh
from offsite to the first machine, this works fine uses password
authentication. Then if i go from that box to the second machine i am
prompted for a passphrase, which i don't have for that key. Basically, three
machines are involved, machine1 to machine2 lets me in no questions,
machine3 to machine1 also works this one uses password authentication, but
then going from machine1 to machine2 does not.
thanks.
Dave.

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Re: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread Mikkel C. Simonsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:
Another argument is that if you have no need to run a server,
USB means you have to waste CPU on translation.  Of course the
counter to that is that with a modem/router, you can't get a
public IP address.
Of course you can get a public IP address. The standard ADSL equipment 
here (Denmark) is a Siemens modem. You connect the modem to your 
computer over Ethernet, and get a public IP using DHCP...

Best regards,
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Re: hosts.allow

2005-02-23 Thread kalin mintchev
 Feb 23 17:21:05 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#64057:
 update 'bigdaddy.com/IN' denied

 so i put:

 ALL : 218.19.160.163 : deny

 in my hosts.allow but i still get that log piling up

 Named isn't built with tcpwrapper support; it would probably cause too
 much overhead.  Chances are the machine at 218.19.160.163 is a windows
 XP machine at your location, with Dynamic DNS updating enabled.  Just
 go into the TCP/IP prefs and disable it.

no such chances. the machine is not on my local network. on the network
where this machine is there is no windows machines. and the 218.19.160.163
is somewhere in china

is there any other way to block it? except ipfw rules...

thanks



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Re: logging proftpd question

2005-02-23 Thread James Alexander Cook
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 02:31:03PM -0500, David Banning wrote:
  I believe the syntax you want is
  
  ftp.*   /var/log/proftpd.log
  
  Make sure the logfile exists (and is writable),
  otherwise I think syslog will complain.
 
 Thanks, fellow Torontonian, for your reply. 
 
 I tried your suggestion previous to my posting, with no result.
 
 Now, could something in the;
 
 
 I tried your suggestion previous to my posting, with no result.  I
 also did a touch /var/log/proftpd.log and chmod 600
 /var/log/proftpd.log
 
 The line;
 
 *.notice;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages
 
 is what is grabbing the messages I want to redirect. (I beleive *.notice)
 
 I just wonder if the line I just mention takes the log entry, if another
 can still take it. Can a log entry only be logged once? Or can you have
 it go to multiply files? (via multiple syslog.conf entries)

I'm pretty sure a log entry can go to as many files as you want.  For example,
my syslog.conf file currently has

*.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit  /dev/console
*.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err   
/var/log/messages
security.*  /var/log/security
auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log
mail.info   /var/log/maillog
lpr.info/var/log/lpd-errs
ftp.info/var/log/xferlog
cron.*  /var/log/cron
*.=debug/var/log/debug.log
*.emerg *
*.* /var/log/all.log
!startslip
*.* /var/log/slip.log
!ppp
*.* /var/log/ppp.log

All of my log messages end up in /var/log/all.log, even though they're also put 
in /var/log/messages.

The only thing I can think of is that you might have a program or hostname
specification that's messing things up (any line starting with !, #!, + or +!).
Anything following such a line will only apply to certain things; for example,
the only things that end up in /var/log/ppp.log in my configuration are
ppp-related messages (even though the ppp.log line starts with *.*).

That's all I can think of, anyway.  I never touched my syslog.conf file before
a few days ago, so I'm hardly an authority.

 
 It sure would be easier if in the log entry it said ftp.notice or
 some such thing so you -know- how it is being directed.
 
 I have tried running syslog with -d and -vv and there seems to be no
 indication what the facility name that is used.
 

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Question about GDB under BSD

2005-02-23 Thread Jonathon McKitrick

I love stl::string(s).  They work very well for many application-level
projects.  But I hate how GDB steps into their code during  next
stepping.  Is there a way I can skip this inline code that is part of stl
strings?  Unfortunately, 'next' doesn't help, since much of the stl code is
'inline.'

jm
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Re: portversion runs seemingly forever

2005-02-23 Thread Jason Henson

Sorry, I guess I should have been clearer.  I let portversion run for  
12+ hours before I killed it.  I just cvsuped the ports tree a few  
days ago, and make fetchindex didn't help me any.  portversion -l =  
says give me the 'up-to-date' ports.  portversion -L = says give me  
all the 'out-of-date' ports.	


Just scrap that and use portmanager.  It is small, lightweight, and  
does not need ruby.  On my machine with ule and [EMAIL PROTECTED] running  
time make gives me
13.644u 11.247s 0:35.40 70.2%   2529+991k 291+53io 489pf+0w

And you don't need an index!
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Re: Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC

2005-02-23 Thread Andy Firman
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 04:35:40AM +, Jason Henson wrote:
 
 Current or questions.  You may have a bad file(corrupted), bad memory,  
 a choice of cvsup server?

This is confirmed on the current list:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2005-February/046628.html

But it works now:
--
 Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Wed Feb 23 20:11:47 EST 2005
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All is well.

Andy


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Re: hosts.allow

2005-02-23 Thread Jeff With
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:20:11 -0500 (EST), kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Feb 23 17:21:05 bigdaddy named[85641]: client 218.19.160.163#64057:
 no such chances. the machine is not on my local network. on the network
 where this machine is there is no windows machines. and the 218.19.160.163
 is somewhere in china
 
 is there any other way to block it? except ipfw rules...
 

BIND version 9.x (not sure on the exact version) and up supports ACLs.

example named.conf

acl china { 
  218.19.160.163; } ;

options {
   blackhole {china;};
};

- jeff
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Re: hosts.allow

2005-02-23 Thread kalin mintchev

 BIND version 9.x (not sure on the exact version) and up supports ACLs.

 example named.conf

 acl china {
   218.19.160.163; } ;

 options {
blackhole {china;};
 };

thanks ... that looks like a solution...



 - jeff



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Re: Booting problems

2005-02-23 Thread Teilhard Knight
- Original Message - 
From: Toomas Aas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Teilhard Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Booting problems


Teilhard Knight wrote:
I am not an expert on FreeBSD and I am not an expert on hardware.
Neither am I, but...
The error I get is: panic no BSP found. Anyone has
an idea of what that means? I'll give you my configuration file just in 
case someone takes the trouble to have a look at it. My machine is the HP 
t730m,
3GHz HT, 512 Meg of RAM.
(sznipp)
# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O
BSP sounds suspiciously like something that has something to do with SMP 
(we're getting really technical here, eh?). I would try removing those two 
options from your kernel config and/or disabling Hyperthreading in BIOS, 
if that's an option.
Thank you Toomas for taking the time. I commented out the two lines you 
suggested and unfortunately not even in that way I have a working kernel. 
When the system tries to boot it just shows the lame symbol | and then 
after a few seconds it reboots. I'll go through the configuration file again 
and try to see if something was related to a symmetric multiprocessor.  I 
wouldn't like to disable hyperthreading in the bIOS because what would be 
the point of having an HT processor? Any more ideas from your part would be 
highly welcome.

Teilhard 

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Re: how long does it takes you to do a make buildworld

2005-02-23 Thread Chris Hill
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Wouter van Rooij wrote:
I'm very curious about how long it took you guys to do a make 
buildworld. So I thought let's start a topic about it.;-)
About 25 minutes, but I didn't time it precisely. This was after a fresh 
install of 5.3-RELEASE from CD, updating to -p5.

Hardware: MSI 915P Combo mobo, Intel [EMAIL PROTECTED], 1GB RAM (PC3200 DDR), 
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Lexmark X1100 printer

2005-02-23 Thread Gerry Freymann
I had to replace my trusty old HP930C and went out and purchased a cheap
Lexmark X1185.

It works pretty good on the windoze boxes (networked printer) but I don't
seem to be able to get any drivers to work with it on FreeBSD 4.9R

I've got ghostscript and apsfilter installed. But when I select Lexmark in
apsfilter, and try to print, I get an error about installing the lm1100
filter. I can't find any documentation that talks about installing this
filter on FreeBSD.

So I'm wondering if going with CUPS would be easier? or at least something
else to dig into. I've spent about 3 hours fiddling with the current setup
to no avail.

Any Suggestions? links?

Thanks.
-gerry
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LDAP/SASL/POSTFIX setup?

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Has anybody attempted to create Postfix installation with SASL 
authenticated via LDAP?  Is it possible to do via the ports collection?  
Or do I need a patch?

Thanks in advance,
Tom Veldhouse
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Re: awk print

2005-02-23 Thread David Bear
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 11:19:26PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 02:40:10PM -0700, David Bear wrote:
  I'm using awk to parse a directory listing. I was hoping there is a
  way to tell awk to print from $2 - to the end of the columns
  available. 
  
  find ./ -name '*stuff' | awk '{FS=/ print $3---'}
 
 Is this what you mean?:
 
 find ./ -name '*stuff'|sed 's|\.[^/]*/[^/]*/||g'

thanks for the advice. No, this doesn't do what I want.

If I have a directory path /stuff/stuff/more/stuff/more/and/more
that is n-levels deep, I want to be able to cut off the first two
levels and print the from 2 to the Nth level.

 
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Redistribution of FreeBSD 5.3

2005-02-23 Thread Bryan Smith
Hi,

My name is Bryan and I am wondering if I can freely distribute FreeBSD 5.3. If 
I can redistribute it, is there anything I need to include with the ISO images 
when I distribute them? I read that I need to include the copyright notice. Do 
I need to include a seperate document for this copyright notice (text file or 
html document) or is the copyright notice in one of the ISO images (also, is 
the copyright notice that I would need to add the one found at 
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html)? I know these might be 
pretty stupid questions, but its better to be safe than sorry in my opinion. 
Also, is there a limit on the amount I can redistribute?

Thanks,
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin Kinsey
markzero wrote:
Is it possible to install multiple X servers on the same machine so that
one can fire up whichever one strikes one's fancy at a given time?
 

I don't see why not, although it'd probably be more common to simply
kill one wm session and start another to save resources.  Maybe it's
possible.  I don't know if, since you've just one DISPLAY (in theory, 
anyhow)
you would configure it.

Hmm, just tested.  No can do, because just one DISPLAY.  Maybe some
X guru has a solution.  GNOME on ttyv1, fluxbox on ttyv2, term on ttyv3
etc., etc Would be pretty cool.
   

This is certainly possible. You need to start X via something other than
startx as you must manually set DISPLAY vars. I have run two X servers on
my machine many times - one running a local desktop environment and the
other running a WM from a remote box over SSH (for no particular reason
other than that it's fun).
 

I figured there was a way.  Most times there is.  I was thinking
two Xservers, one monitor.  CTL-ALT-F2 is Desktop B, CTL-ALT-F3
is desktop C, etc.  How 'bout that?
Of course, I really have no idea *why*, either; but it does at
least sound fun.
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread markzero
 This is certainly possible. You need to start X via something other than
 startx as you must manually set DISPLAY vars. I have run two X servers on
 my machine many times - one running a local desktop environment and the
 other running a WM from a remote box over SSH (for no particular reason
 other than that it's fun).
  
 
 I figured there was a way.  Most times there is.  I was thinking
 two Xservers, one monitor.  CTL-ALT-F2 is Desktop B, CTL-ALT-F3
 is desktop C, etc.  How 'bout that?
 
 Of course, I really have no idea *why*, either; but it does at
 least sound fun.
 
 Kevin Kinsey

Yes, that's it, except they were on F7 and F8... :)

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Multiple X servers on one machine (was: Different OS's? Marketshare)

2005-02-23 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
This is an excellent idea of why the weekly how to ask questions
message suggests changing the Subject: line to match changes in topic.
I have been deleting this thread, and only by chance did I stumble on
this message before deleting it.

On Wednesday, 23 February 2005 at 21:05:30 -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
 markzero wrote:

 Is it possible to install multiple X servers on the same machine so that
 one can fire up whichever one strikes one's fancy at a given time?

 I don't see why not, although it'd probably be more common to
 simply kill one wm session and start another to save resources.
 Maybe it's possible.  I don't know if, since you've just one
 DISPLAY (in theory, anyhow) you would configure it.

 Hmm, just tested.  No can do, because just one DISPLAY.  Maybe some
 X guru has a solution.  GNOME on ttyv1, fluxbox on ttyv2, term on ttyv3
 etc., etc Would be pretty cool.

 This is certainly possible. You need to start X via something other than
 startx as you must manually set DISPLAY vars. I have run two X servers on
 my machine many times - one running a local desktop environment and the
 other running a WM from a remote box over SSH (for no particular reason
 other than that it's fun).

 I figured there was a way.  Most times there is.  I was thinking
 two Xservers, one monitor.  CTL-ALT-F2 is Desktop B, CTL-ALT-F3
 is desktop C, etc.  How 'bout that?

Well, the terminology is server, not desktop.  But yes, that can work.

 Of course, I really have no idea *why*, either; but it does at least
 sound fun.

Been there, done that, wrote a diary entry:
http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-dec2002.html#7 .

The secret is to specify a different server number for each server.
In the example in the diary entry, I had different window managers
running on each of three servers.  The scripts are in the diary entry.

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Re: clamd after upgrade to 0.83

2005-02-23 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
Thanks, that explains why postfix is still logging. But clamd is running...
esmtp# ps -ax | grep clam
26441  ??  Ss 0:00.37 /usr/local/sbin/clamd
26467  ??  Is 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/freshclam --daemon
26494  ??  Is 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/freshclam --daemon
But still the server thinks it is not and there is no pid file...
esmtp# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/clamav-clamd.sh status
clamav_clamd is not running.
esmtp# ls -la /var/run/clamav/
total 4
drwxr-xr-x  2 clamav  clamav  512 Feb 23 21:51 .
drwxr-xr-x  6 rootwheel   512 Feb 23 21:51 ..
esmtp#
I even uninstalled and re-installed. Any ideas why this is not reporting as 
running?

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--On Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:10 PM +0100 Daniel S. Haischt 
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I think the following section in /usr/local/amavisd.conf
should answer your question:
   ### http://www.clamav.net/   - backs up clamd or Mail::ClamAV
   ['ClamAV-clamscan', 'clamscan',
 --stdout --disable-summary -r --tempdir=$TEMPBASE {}, [0], [1],
 qr/^.*?: (?!Infected Archive)(.*) FOUND$/ ],
Basically if clamd is not running Amavis will execute the
commandline scanner version of ClamAV. That's the reason why
you are still getting log entries.
So to sumarize: ClamAV's daemon is not running, thus
there is neither a PID file nor a UNIX domain socket.
So if you want to use the daemonized version of ClamAV,
you need to elaborate why the daemon isn't started.
Robert Fitzpatrick schrieb:
I do not have anything in /var/run/clamav and that is the location in
clamd.conf for placing the PID file. I cannot connect to the localhost
as well:
esmtp# telnet localhost 3310
Trying ::1...
telnet: connect to address ::1: Connection refused
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
However, according to the clamd.log, clamav is intercepting viruses. Do
you think it is working and why would I not be able to connect via
telnet or view the pid file if it is?
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--On Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:35 PM +0100 Daniel S. Haischt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Usually if you are running ClamAV in UNI domain socket mode,
there should be a UNIX domain socket called 'clamd' in ...
  - /var/run/clamav
Tho - this file can be configured in /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf.
If ClamAv is running in TCP/IP mode it should be possible to
test whether the server is responding by connecting to its
TCP/IP port using a telnet client ...
  - telnet localhost 3310
Robert Fitzpatrick schrieb:
After doing a portupgrade of clamd from 0.81 to 0.83, the service
reports that it is not running using 'clamav-clamd.sh status'.
esmtp# cd /usr/local/etc
esmtp# rc.d/clamav-clamd.sh status
clamav_clamd is not running.
esmtp# ps -ax|grep clam
 781  ??  Ss 0:10.96 /usr/local/sbin/clamd
However, all seems to be fine, postfix 2.1.5, amavisd-new and clamd all
seem to be running and Webmin reports them all as running.
Any thoughts or something I should know regarding the upgrading? I
checked /usr/ports/UPDATING, but nothing regarding this. All conf files
are reflecting the new settings.
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Re: awk print

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Frank
* On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 07:36:05PM -0700 David Bear wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 11:19:26PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 02:40:10PM -0700, David Bear wrote:
   I'm using awk to parse a directory listing. I was hoping there is a
   way to tell awk to print from $2 - to the end of the columns
   available. 
   
   find ./ -name '*stuff' | awk '{FS=/ print $3---'}
  
  Is this what you mean?:
  
  find ./ -name '*stuff'|sed 's|\.[^/]*/[^/]*/||g'
 
 thanks for the advice. No, this doesn't do what I want.
 
 If I have a directory path /stuff/stuff/more/stuff/more/and/more
 that is n-levels deep, I want to be able to cut off the first two
 levels and print the from 2 to the Nth level.

So how about cut?

find ./ -name '*stuff'| cut -d/ -f4-

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Re: ssh, sftp, and public key authentication

2005-02-23 Thread Shantanoo Mahajan
+++ dave [23-02-05 18:47 -0500]:
| Hello,
| Thanks for your reply. I have done this. My problem comes in when i ssh
| from offsite to the first machine, this works fine uses password
| authentication. Then if i go from that box to the second machine i am
| prompted for a passphrase, which i don't have for that key. Basically, three
| machines are involved, machine1 to machine2 lets me in no questions,

machine1 to machine2 works.

| machine3 to machine1 also works this one uses password authentication, but

machine3 to machine1 to works.

| then going from machine1 to machine2 does not.

do you mean machine2 to machine1?

Regards,
Shantanoo
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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Chris Hill
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
[...] I keep wondering if [...] I should just continue with FreeBSD 
and install X on the machine (and KDE, probably, since it seems to be 
popular, although I welcome suggestions).

Which window manager is the closest to classic UNIX window managers 
(as opposed to wannabe Windows products)?
It's not clear what you mean by classic UNIX window managers - maybe 
CDE or Motif? In any case I've never used them and can't answer that 
specific question.

As for the former... I installed KDE on my 4.10 machine a while ago just 
to have a look-see, and it seemed *very* Windows-y to me. Start menu, 
integrated file/web browser, etc. I don't care for it, and didn't bother 
reinstalling it after going to 5.3. If you don't want a wannabe Windows 
product, I think you might not like KDE. Plus, the KDE meta-port takes 
MANY hours to install from ports - at least on my now-modest hardware 
and mid-speed DSL line.

Before and after KDE, I've been using fvwm2 - it's a relatively plain 
but very configurable window manager, though I suppose you could make it 
as fancy as you wanted.

For a rundown of various WMs, see http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
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Window managers (was: Different OS's? Marketshare)

2005-02-23 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 23 February 2005 at 22:51:26 -0500, Chris Hill wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote:

 [...] I keep wondering if [...] I should just continue with FreeBSD
 and install X on the machine (and KDE, probably, since it seems to be
 popular, although I welcome suggestions).

 Which window manager is the closest to classic UNIX window managers
 (as opposed to wannabe Windows products)?

 It's not clear what you mean by classic UNIX window managers - maybe
 CDE or Motif?

Possibly.  It could also be something primitive like twm, of course.
That's available in the Ports Collection for people who want the bad
old days back.

 In any case I've never used them and can't answer that specific
 question.

I'd suggest fvwm2.

 As for the former... I installed KDE on my 4.10 machine a while ago
 just to have a look-see, and it seemed *very* Windows-y to
 me. Start menu, integrated file/web browser, etc. I don't care for
 it, and didn't bother reinstalling it after going to 5.3. If you
 don't want a wannabe Windows product, I think you might not like
 KDE.

I think I could agree with that.

 Before and after KDE, I've been using fvwm2 - it's a relatively
 plain but very configurable window manager, though I suppose you
 could make it as fancy as you wanted.

Heh.  I moved to fvwm2 from mwm (Motif window manager), and there
wasn't too much difference there.

Greg
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Belkin PS/2 to USB converter, Not Pointing

2005-02-23 Thread Jed Clear
In preparation for adding new box[1] to my stable[2] that uses USB for 
keyboard and mouse, I got a Belkin F5U119-E PS/2 to USB adapter for my PS/2 
keyboard and old Trackman Marble FX.  Since there will be a new USB KVM, I 
decided to try the adapter out with my FreeBSD 4.11-R server.  I managed to 
get the keyboard to work through the adapter, but not the Trackman.  I tried a 
grungy old Intellimouse in the adapter too, but no joy.  A real USB mouse, off 
my laptop, works just fine.

When I attach the adapter cable, I get this on the console/dmesg
   ukbd0: vendor 0x0d3d USBPS2, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1
   kbd0 at ukbd0
   ums0: vendor 0x0d3d USBPS2, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1
   ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir.
Note that the Trackman is 4 button, and no Z, and it reported 5,Z for the 
Intellimouse, too.  It also reports this when attached with no mouse, so it 
looks like there is a mouse emulator in the adapter, a la many KVMs.  A new 
instance of moused starts on ums0, when the adapter is inserted.

Figuring FreeBSD 4.11 and an AMD K6-233, on an Abit AX5 mobo, might be a 
little long in the tooth, I booted FreeBSD 5.3 off a FreeSBI 1.1 CD on an 
Athlon 1GHz (Abit KT7).  Same things occurred. I'd get the dmesg entries, and 
a new moused process, but no input from the mouse or Trackman.

The Trackman works with the adapter on the KT7 when it boots Windows ME[3], 
although the Logitech drivers can't even tell it's a Logitech device.  Which 
is worse than the normal KVM[4], but at least functional.  The Intellimouse 
works on the adapter under Windows as well, confirming the adapter isn't dead 
on arrival.  My current KVM was out of the loop for this testing.

I'm not running a GENERIC kernel, but one I stripped out for my hardware.  I 
already added uhid, ukbd, and ums back in.  I haven't tried ubsa(4), yet.  It 
looks close to perfect, but not really.  (Note that ubsa isn't in LINT.)

I'm fairly attached to the Marble FX, so would like to get this to work.
Questions:
--
1) Is it worth trying the ubsa device driver?
2) Any other devices I might need?
3) Should I remove psm?
4) Something in another *BSD?
5) Are there other PS/2 to USB adapters known to work?
6) Know any good USB Trackballs?
7) Anything else I didn't think of?
8) Send a pr?
Thanks for any assistance,
-Jed
[1] Hint: it's small, white[5], and runs a close cousin to FreeBSD, but with 
better eye candy.
[2] As in horses, not -STABLE.
[3] I'd get rid of it, except I need Quicken.
[4] Logitech drivers think it is a three button wheel mouse when looking 
through the KVM, which is about par for KVMs and trackballs.
[5] Think of 6 Beatles White Album CD Jewel boxes stacked with the corners 
rounded off.
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Re: ssh, sftp, and public key authentication

2005-02-23 Thread dave
Hello,
I just read my message. I've confused myself a little here probably the rest
of you too. Let me try it again. I have three machines, two fixed and one
mobile laptop, which is a windows box. Machine3 is a server i remotely
manage, machine1 is my fixed machine, machine2 is my laptop. When i'm at
machine1 i have created a public key and can ssh to machine3, no problem,
and no passphrase. When my laptop is on my local network it can also ssh to
machine3 as well as to anywhere else, again no problem and no passphrase.
When the laptop is offsite, i can not ssh directly to machine3 at all, even
though i select public key authentication, so i ssh to machine1, on my
network, then from there try to ssh to machine3. This does not work, i'm
repeatedly prompted for a passphrase which i don't have.
Hope that clarifies things.
Thanks.
Dave.

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Re: Redistribution of FreeBSD 5.3

2005-02-23 Thread Mike Jeays
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 21:38, Bryan Smith wrote:
 Hi,
 
 My name is Bryan and I am wondering if I can freely distribute FreeBSD 5.3. 
 If I can redistribute it, is there anything I need to include with the ISO 
 images when I distribute them? I read that I need to include the copyright 
 notice. Do I need to include a seperate document for this copyright notice 
 (text file or html document) or is the copyright notice in one of the ISO 
 images (also, is the copyright notice that I would need to add the one found 
 at http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html)? I know these might 
 be pretty stupid questions, but its better to be safe than sorry in my 
 opinion. Also, is there a limit on the amount I can redistribute?
 
 Thanks,
 Bryan
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I am NOT a FreeBSD official, so please wait and see if anyone
contradicts what I say.

To the best of my knowledge you are free to redistribute the FreeBSD ISO
images.  They contain the copyright notices (many times), and you don't
need at add anything. Obviously you shouldn't try and claim that you are
the author!  There is no limit on the number of copies you can
distribute - after all, these images are available on many public FTP
servers.

The additional CDs that you get with a boxed set are NOT for
redistribution, although everything on them is available on the FTP
sites - just not as an ISO image.

Welcome to FreeBSD - try and spread it around Queen's as much as you
can!

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Re: Redistribution of FreeBSD 5.3

2005-02-23 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said

Hi,

My name is Bryan and I am wondering if I can freely distribute FreeBSD
5.3. If I can redistribute it, is there anything I need to include
with the ISO images when I distribute them? I read that I need to
include the copyright notice. Do I need to include a seperate document
for this copyright notice (text file or html document) or is the
copyright notice in one of the ISO images (also, is the copyright
notice that I would need to add the one found at
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html)? I know these
might be pretty stupid questions, but its better to be safe than sorry
in my opinion. Also, is there a limit on the amount I can
redistribute?

Thanks,
Bryan

Hello,

If you're redistributing discs made from ISOs that you downloaded, you
don't need to do a thing. All the info will be be there automatically.
I'm cc'ing this to advocacy for correction in case things have changed
since last I checked (sometime in the last millenium).

Regards,

Stheg 



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Port Problem

2005-02-23 Thread Doug Hardie
I seem to have done something to a port that is causing a problem.  The 
port is dspam and I first did a make on it.  Up cam this nice 
configuration option window (similar to sysinstall) where I select what 
turns out to be incompatable options.   However, that wasn't obvious at 
the time.  The patching and configuration completed successfully.  All 
the various required ports installed properly.  However, the make of 
dspam failed because of the incompatable options.  The error message 
made it all obvious.  However, I can't find a way to go back to that 
configuration option window to correct the problem.

Make just takes me back to the compile error.  Removing the work 
directory and the tar file results in a new download and then a silent 
return to the same problem.  Make clean does essentially the same 
thing.  The configuration options are being stored somewhere and I 
suspect I need to delete them, but where?

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Re: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Mike Hauber writes:

 Found the thread...  Have you tried installing an older version?

No, but most of the problems I saw in my research were on 4.x or older
versions.  This version (5.3) seems to run fine once it's up; the only
problem is getting the machine to boot it.  Also, I'm getting those
weird SCSI disk errors.

 Well...  There's a lot of options available.  Personally, I prefer
 something like blackbox for administrative logins.  It's _very_ 
 lightweight and (like all things should be), you pretty much 
 build it from the ground up.

What do you mean by building it from the ground up?

What do I get when I type startx by default?  It looks extremely simple,
whatever it is, just a few simple windows in green borders on a rather
irritating gray crosshatched background.

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Re: Port Problem

2005-02-23 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 09:35 pm, Doug Hardie wrote:
 I seem to have done something to a port that is causing a problem. 
 The port is dspam and I first did a make on it.  Up cam this nice
 configuration option window (similar to sysinstall) where I select
 what turns out to be incompatable options.   However, that wasn't
 obvious at the time.  The patching and configuration completed
 successfully.  All the various required ports installed properly. 
 However, the make of dspam failed because of the incompatable
 options.  The error message made it all obvious.  However, I can't
 find a way to go back to that configuration option window to correct
 the problem.

 Make just takes me back to the compile error.  Removing the work
 directory and the tar file results in a new download and then a
 silent return to the same problem.  Make clean does essentially the
 same thing.  The configuration options are being stored somewhere and
 I suspect I need to delete them, but where?


run make rmconfig in the port's directory.

-Mike
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Re: Window managers (was: Different OS's? Marketshare)

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes:

 Possibly.  It could also be something primitive like twm, of course.

I meant whatever is used most on commercial UNIX configurations, like
Solaris or whatever I'd be likely to encounter on a large site.

It appears that CDE is a strictly commercial package, so I won't be
using that.

How hard is it to _uninstall_ window managers and desktops?

Confronted with bewildering choices, I have Xfce downloading now; it
looked clean in the screen shots and apparently it doesn't require many
resources.

KDE looks awfully heavy and adolescent and I don't know that I'm
interested in something that tries so hard to be like Windows.

-- 
Anthony


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Question about FTP

2005-02-23 Thread Shawn B
I am new to FreeBSD, and I am wondering what good,
easy-to-use and reliable FTP server FreeBSD can use. I
tried ProFTP, and had problem after problem. When I
figured out how to fix one error, I had another, after
another, after another. Are there any good
alternatives? I am using FreeBSD-4.8.

Also, how do you get Apache to point to a specific
directory? And, how would I use multipule domains on
the single machine, pointing them to a separate
directory? Would I need multipule domains? 

I am attempting to use FreeBSD as a http server, ftp
server, PHPbb server, and possibly an IRC server. I
would be using at least two domains to start, and
possibly another two within a couple of months.

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Re: Window managers (was: Different OS's? Marketshare)

2005-02-23 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
On Feb 23, 2005, at 10:56 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes:
Possibly.  It could also be something primitive like twm, of course.
I meant whatever is used most on commercial UNIX configurations, like
Solaris or whatever I'd be likely to encounter on a large site.
It appears that CDE is a strictly commercial package, so I won't be
using that.
Someone I know works at SUN.  He said most of the people there that he 
knows have ditched CDE and use Gnome :-( and I think SUN may be 
adopting Gnome or one of the other ones to replace CDE

Chad
How hard is it to _uninstall_ window managers and desktops?
Confronted with bewildering choices, I have Xfce downloading now; it
looked clean in the screen shots and apparently it doesn't require many
resources.
KDE looks awfully heavy and adolescent and I don't know that I'm
interested in something that tries so hard to be like Windows.
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Re: Question about FTP

2005-02-23 Thread Paul Schmehl
- Original Message - 
From: Shawn B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:02 AM
Subject: Question about FTP


I am new to FreeBSD, and I am wondering what good,
easy-to-use and reliable FTP server FreeBSD can use. I
tried ProFTP, and had problem after problem. When I
figured out how to fix one error, I had another, after
another, after another. Are there any good
alternatives? I am using FreeBSD-4.8.
Also, how do you get Apache to point to a specific
directory? And, how would I use multipule domains on
the single machine, pointing them to a separate
directory? Would I need multipule domains?
I am attempting to use FreeBSD as a http server, ftp
server, PHPbb server, and possibly an IRC server. I
would be using at least two domains to start, and
possibly another two within a couple of months.
Well you're certainly biting off more than most people could chew.  You not 
only are new to FreeBSD but also to ftp and http.  Hopefully you have some 
substantial Unix experience.  If not, then you need to stop now and find a 
knowledgeable friend.

You need to read the Apache config docs and learn how to create virtual 
domains on a web server.  You need to learn how to set up a server securely. 
Who's going to handle dns for this(these) domain(s)?  If you're really going 
to run an IRC server, you need to be even *more* knowledgeable.

You have a lot of work ahead of you, and a lot of heatache if you don't do 
it right.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Adjunct Information Security Officer
University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/ 

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DLINK DWL-530 wireless a/b/g NIC and FreeBSD 4 and 5

2005-02-23 Thread Sandro Mancuso
Hi all,

 

I've read 2-3 archived posts to the -CURRENT mailing list dating back to
September about the atheros driver on FreeBSD not supporting the DLink
DWL-530.  I haven't seen much about it since, and a patch that was
available then didn't work for this particular model either.  Before I
go out and buy a DWL-520 instead, can anyone tell me if this model is
now supported on the atheros driver?

 

My goal is to use this NIC in my FreeBSD gateway and use it as an access
point as well.  This card seems great because it's got great speed,
backward compatibility and a detachable antenna that's more convenient
than if it were hiding behind the tower.

 

Thanks,

Sandro

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Re: Creating a boot diskette that does nothing but boot from hard disk

2005-02-23 Thread Richard Jansson

- Original Message -
From: Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:28 PM
Subject: Creating a boot diskette that does nothing but boot from hard disk


 Is it possible to create a boot diskette that does nothing more than
 boot from a specific hard disk?  How would I go about doing so?

 If I can't figure out why my system won't boot from the hard disk on its
 own, I figure that perhaps I could create a diskette to pop into the
 machine that would simple boot immediately from the hard disk.  It
 shouldn't require much code and should easily fit on a single diskette.

 The method I'm using at the moment of changing floppies for ten minutes
 then entering the loader and changing parameters and booting is much too
 awkward.

 --
 Anthony


I now that there is a boot loader named fatload you can find it on
http://www.vortex.prodigynet.co.uk/boot/index.html
you can install it with dd.

If that dont work you can write a program that loads a sector (boot sector)
to your RAM
memory and then jump there. Sounds simple but you musst not forget that you
should switch
 to protected mode from real mode.

But I think fatload will work just fine. Good luck!
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ATA harddrive sleep/spindown timout?

2005-02-23 Thread Graham North
Hello Heikki:
I stumbled on this post by you - but not resolving answers - I have the 
same question?

Did you find good answers for FreeBSD?   If so, would you be willing to 
share your experience?
Thank you for any help you can offer.
Graham North
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Your post last year:
I'm running FreeBSD 4.8-stable 
on an  Mini ITX Epia system.
(onboard C3 800 mhz, Video, sound, NIC, TV-out, 2 ATA IDE controllers.)

Is it possible to put ata harddrives in spindown/sleep/suspend mode
without putting the whole system to sleep/suspend?
I'm building an fileserver with several disks that won't be used more
than a couple of hours each day, and in the mean time I would like to
reduce the noise level by putting the ATA harddrives in sleep/suspend
mode with an timeout.
This is an *critical* abillity, I like FreeBSD a lot, but without this
functionality I'l have to run linux and use hdparm to reduce the noise
to an acceptable level.
Heikki Soerum.

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Re: Redistribution of FreeBSD 5.3

2005-02-23 Thread Chuck Swiger
Bryan Smith wrote:
[ ...format recovered, please set linewrap preference... ]
My name is Bryan and I am wondering if I can freely distribute FreeBSD 5.3.
Yes.
If I can redistribute it, is there anything I need to include with the ISO
images when I distribute them?
No.  You can redistribute byte-for-byte identical copies of the ISO images 
from the ftp.freebsd.org servers if you'd like.

I read that I need to include the copyright notice.
That's right.  Very probably you will need to include both the BSD /COPYRIGHT 
file and the GPL /usr/src/gnu/COPYING file somewhere.  [1]  Of course, the ISO 
images come with the files containing the copyright and license text.

Do I need to include a seperate document for this copyright notice
(text file or html document) or is the copyright notice in one of the ISO
images (also, is the copyright notice that I would need to add the one found
at http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html)? 
The ones that come with the ISO images are fine as far as BSD-licensed and 
GPL'ed (GPL-licensed? :-) software are concerned.  Depending on the version 
of FreeBSD and if you include any ports, you ought to consider:

http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/index.html
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/LEGAL
Note that if you modify parts of FreeBSD, especially GPLed parts, you will 
likely be obligated to make those changes available under the terms of 3b:

b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
customarily used for software interchange; or,
...unless your changes are included in source form already.
Also, is there a limit on the amount I can redistribute?
No.
--
-Chuck
[1]: Or several somewheres, unfortunately:
11-sec% locate COPYING | wc -l
  77
I wonder if anyone has arranged for them to be hardlinks to each other?  :-)
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Re: Window managers

2005-02-23 Thread Chuck Swiger
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes:
Possibly.  It could also be something primitive like twm, of course.
I meant whatever is used most on commercial UNIX configurations, like
Solaris or whatever I'd be likely to encounter on a large site.
Back in the good old days, that would have been OpenLook.  Today, you'd 
probably find KDE or GNOME on most systems (FreeBSD, Linux, OS X).

It appears that CDE is a strictly commercial package, so I won't be
using that.
How hard is it to _uninstall_ window managers and desktops?
It's not hard.  pkg_delete -xf kde or pkg_delete -xf gnome.
[ You might want to be a little more selective than using such a wildcard, 
however, although if you've got the precompiled packages handy, reinstalling 
something again is not a big deal if you need a dependency. ]

--
-Chuck
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RE: Lexmark X1100 printer

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerry Freymann
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:27 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Lexmark X1100 printer


 I had to replace my trusty old HP930C and went out and
 purchased a cheap
 Lexmark X1185.


Wrong thing to do.  HP is well supported under open source
operating systems, Lexmark isn't.

 It works pretty good on the windoze boxes (networked printer)
 but I don't
 seem to be able to get any drivers to work with it on FreeBSD 4.9R

 I've got ghostscript and apsfilter installed. But when I
 select Lexmark in
 apsfilter, and try to print, I get an error about installing the lm1100
 filter. I can't find any documentation that talks about installing this
 filter on FreeBSD.


http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-1100

 So I'm wondering if going with CUPS would be easier? or at
 least something
 else to dig into. I've spent about 3 hours fiddling with the
 current setup
 to no avail.


Also note that the lm1100 isn't the 1185.  The model numbers on these
things are pretty meaningless - the entire printing command set of the
1185 could be completely different from the 1100.

 Any Suggestions? links?


Let me put it this way.  It sounds like your not that experienced with
the ugliness of installing an unsupported printer under FreeBSD.  I
guarentee
that you will be happier if you stay that way.

Return the printer to the store and buy one that is well supported.
By purchasing the Lexmark you are effectively rewarding companies that
don't lift a finger to help us, and punishing companies that are bending
over backwards to help the Open Source community.

If you had got the printer from a dumpster, or free from someone, I
would be more inclined to spend time answering your question.  But the
fact that you actually went out and paid money for it - that is
different.
If you want to support FreeBSD, reward vendors who support it with your
business, not vendors who ignore it.

Ted

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RE: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Hodgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:40 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: markzero; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: DSL modem recommendation


 You come across as being a very smart guy so why ask this question?  I
 am asking a general why not USB?, not USB modems are
 awesome and you
 should all convert!.


Sorry.  I'm just ranting.  USB ethernet is an abomination and I cannot
forgive the morons in the industry that did away with RS232 serial
ports in favor of USB.  Espically since I have tons of equipment I
service that have serial ports on them.  Ever have the pleasure of
working with one of those USB-to-serial port adapter POSs?

Seriously, if what the PC industry had done was when USB came out, just
completely did away with the keyboard port and the PS/2 mouse port, and
tied those interrupts to the USB controller, so that the new PC
motherboards
required USB mice and keyboards, then I would not be so disgusted with
it.  Instead, they just layered it into the PC architecture.  I have
PCs here that when you put 2 nics in them, you lose one of the on-board
serial ports, and this is without even a sound chip in the system.

Ted

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RE: DSL modem recommendation

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mikkel C.
 Simonsen
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:56 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: DSL modem recommendation


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:
  Another argument is that if you have no need to run a server,
  USB means you have to waste CPU on translation.  Of course the
  counter to that is that with a modem/router, you can't get a
  public IP address.

 Of course you can get a public IP address. The standard ADSL equipment
 here (Denmark) is a Siemens modem. You connect the modem to your
 computer over Ethernet, and get a public IP using DHCP...


Only if the Siemens modem is in bridged mode, and most DSL providers
ship these devices in routed mode, not in bridged mode.  If Network
Address
Translation (NAT) is turned on, which it is by default when these devices
are in routed mode, then the IP address you get is a private address
handed out
by the Siemens modem, something like a 192.168.1.x number.

Ted

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cna't ssh localhost

2005-02-23 Thread Eugene M. Minkovskii
Hi, I'm in trubble now, and don't know what to think about...

I'm install FreeBDS 5.3. stable from DVD iso. This is fresh
system: I'm not recompile the kernel and working with GENERIC
kernel. This means that I don't use any firewall and ip filter.

Now, I configure net interface in  /etc/rc.conf:

...
ifconfig_rl0=inet 172.16.0.2  netmask 255.255.255.252
defaultrouter=172.16.0.1
...

then I type following

$ ssh 127.0.0.1

But connection hang up, of course, I can't do ssh from gateway
(172.16.0.1) to localhost (172.16.0.2) too.


# BUT! #


If I comment line with defaultrouter in rc.conf:

...
ifconfig_rl0=inet 172.16.0.2  netmask 255.255.255.252
#defaultrouter=172.16.0.1
...

and reboot, connecion working good: ssh 127.0.0.1 work, and ssh
from gateway to local mashine work good.

If I, after that type manually

$ sudo route add 0.0.0.0 172.16.0.1

connection to loop interface hangs again.

Have you any ideas?

-- 
Sensory  yours, Eugene  Minkovskii
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RE: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jacob S
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:53 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Different OS's? Marketshare


 On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:24:36 +0100
 Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Andrew L. Gould writes:
 snip
   Fourth, I appreciate all the hard work that goes into
 developing and
   packaging an operating system and its related applications.  I am
   happy to pay for the convenience of an operating system on a DVD.
   It's only fair that the vendor be able to recover cost.  If earning
   a little profit motivates them to continue providing a great
   service, all the better.
 
  Fine.  Except that distributors are barely doing anything more than
  repackaging someone else's work.  They didn't write Linux.

 And how would you classify all of the Gnu and gpl software, or the
 Linux software that runs under the Linux compatability layer
 in FreeBSD?
 KDE, Nmap, Xfree86, x.org, mailman, exim, qmail and ezmlm are
 just a few that come to mind.


Whoh there Jacob.  What are you talking about?

The only software that runs under the linux compatability layer is
compiled
linux binaries where the source isn't available.  All the programs you
mentioned above are source available, and they are all compiled to native
FreeBSD binaries under FreeBSD.

Ted

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RE: Different OS's? Marketshare

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Kinsey
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:04 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: Anthony Atkielski
 Subject: Re: Different OS's? Marketshare
 
 
 There are so many other WMs.  It all depends on how you work.
 And, you can run some toolbars/docks, iconifying program, pretty
 much any X application, whatever, on just about anything --
 tools, not policy after all. 
 
 Greg Lehey, for example, states (~to the effect of~) I'm not into
 eye candy, and runs something rather simple (twm? fvwm?) that's
 all configured exactly the way he wants it across several monitors,
 at rather/very high resolution(s).  He either has great eyesight,
 or has good glasses, I guess (and it's pure speculation and
 nothing personal at all) because he works surrounded by words,
 words, and more words, I suppose, whether it's code, mail, whatever. 
 

Hi Kevin,

  It is interesting you said that, I never heard that one before, but
I am the same way.  The VM that I use on my systems is tvm.  It is fast
and frankly all the wm does is make it so you don't have to remember to
type firefox  when you want to start firefox.

Ted
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RE: get local sendmail to use MX records

2005-02-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerard Meijer
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:08 PM
 To: Greg Barniskis
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: get local sendmail to use MX records


 I really don't understand it at all now.


 I emptied my virtusertable and local-host-names files. I
 really don't know
 why this happens.

Did you look in your mailertable file?

You have domain.com listed in one of your sendmail config files, that is
the only explanation.  Or you have it in /etc/hosts.  or in /etc/rc.conf.
it's somewhere.

It is problems like this is why when your running commercial servers
that you create build sheets for each server.  That is, you record on
a separate document EVERY configuration step of any significance that
you or anyone else does.  Sorry you had to find this out the hard way.
You probably have domain.com secreted in some hack you forgot that you
did.  Maybe one of these days when you do a nuke and repave you will
remember to start a build sheet.

Ted

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