Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test9 X Windows lockup

[Kurt V. Hindenburg]

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On Friday 21 November 2003 05:16 pm, John Huttley wrote:
| Hello,
| test9 works fine for me in text mode, but if i run 'startx'
| or even 'XFree86 -probeonly' the system hard locks.

You're going to have to look at the log files.

/var/log/XFree86.0.log

When I'm not using XDM I start X like this:

alias x='exec /usr/X11R6/bin/startx -- -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp 
2> .x-log'

Hence log at ~/.x-log

Good luck.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging MPlayer

[Gregory P. Smith]

On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 12:00:12AM -0600, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Gregory P. Smith wrote:
> >>This is a common problem with mplayer. It isn't portage's fault. This 
> >>problem occurs because the MPlayer developers release a newer version of 
> >>the font tarball, but name it the same. Because of this, emerge has no 
> >>idea 
> >
> >Yes it is portage's fault.  portage needs to be modified to support
> >ebuilds that can specify required files without a md5 and size for cases
> >like this.
> >
> >Unless you like reanswering this question every three days and causing
> >many peoples super long emerges to fail in the middle rather than
> >completing when they leave the computer alone while it runs...
> 
> This would cause the error to go away, but it would *not* fix the problem. 
> Portage would see the *old* tarball in /usr/portage/distfiles and assume it 
> was the *newer* file that it needed. While it may not cause much of a 
> problem (in this case), it still does not fix the issue.

Perhaps change this ebuild to always attempt to fetch the file?  if the
fetch fails (user not online?) try and used the cached copy.  only dying
if the file doesn't exist at all.  It's only a font file.  Presumably not
too important and with the above strategy the user hopefully has a font
file fetched at least on the same date as the mplayer sources they're
trying to build?


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Re: [gentoo-user] XFS

[Gregory P. Smith]

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:33:31AM +0100, Spider wrote:
> 
> > What is the justification for this putdown of XFS?  I communicate with
> > other groups, and almost universally people sing the praises of XFS
> > (including use for critical servers).  Is this just an old wives tale
> > from the early days of XFS?   Did someone put this in and it was never
> > reviewed?  Almost anyone I talk to maintains that XFS recovers from
> > power failures just as well as any other journaling fs. 
> 
> No, The problem is in how XFS caches content and restores metadata but
> fills content with null (^@ ) whenever it goes down. 
> 
> We had XFS on our main distribution server and it fucked us over deeply
> and badly due to this, by chewing in most of the data at a point. This
> was bad enough to warrant the change. Before that XFS was recommended
> above others for its performance.
> 
> //Spider
>wizend old and with bad memory.

that was well over a year ago wasn't it?  what about todays XFS
implementations in 2.4.22+patches or 2.6.0-test?  This is why filesystem
discussions are so bad.  I know people who avoid reiserfs because it
ate their disk in 1998.  reiserfs has been stable for 3 years now.

What should really be discussed is the particular implementation (fs
driver version & kernel version), not the filesystem itself (which is
really just the on disk data format).

I've used XFS on my laptop for 18 months without problems because it was
recommended at install time and I wanted to try something I had never
used on linux before but my old laptop doesn't count as a high volume
heavy load server.  It has survived all battery failures or buggy driver
induced crashes i've put it through without a single hiccup.

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Re: [gentoo-user] security: unwanted daemons

[Andrew Gaffney]

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i installed Gentoo 031015 & am very pleased with it, but still learning.

there are  4  daemons in  /etc/init.d  for remote access to my box:
 sshd slapd slurpd rsyncd .  i've checked their man pages
& all appear to be running as servers for things i don't need or want.
i do want to use 'ssh', but that's unaffected when i remove 'sshd'.
two questions: am i correct that i can remove these scripts from  init.d
without interfering with the ordinary functioning of my system ?
and why are they set up by default on a Gentoo system,
when they cd cause a security problem for a naive -- mb me -- user ?
and perhaps a 3rd question: are there any other similar items in  init.d ?
Just because they are in /etc/init.d does not mean that they are running. They are only 
running if *you* did 'rc-update add  default'. You can double check this by 
running 'rc-status'. If they are not in the list, then they don't start by default.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging MPlayer

[Andrew Gaffney]

Gregory P. Smith wrote:
This is a common problem with mplayer. It isn't portage's fault. This 
problem occurs because the MPlayer developers release a newer version of 
the font tarball, but name it the same. Because of this, emerge has no idea 


Yes it is portage's fault.  portage needs to be modified to support
ebuilds that can specify required files without a md5 and size for cases
like this.
Unless you like reanswering this question every three days and causing
many peoples super long emerges to fail in the middle rather than
completing when they leave the computer alone while it runs...
This would cause the error to go away, but it would *not* fix the problem. Portage would 
see the *old* tarball in /usr/portage/distfiles and assume it was the *newer* file that it 
needed. While it may not cause much of a problem (in this case), it still does not fix the 
issue.

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[gentoo-user] security: unwanted daemons

[purslow]

i installed Gentoo 031015 & am very pleased with it, but still learning.

there are  4  daemons in  /etc/init.d  for remote access to my box:
 sshd slapd slurpd rsyncd .  i've checked their man pages
& all appear to be running as servers for things i don't need or want.
i do want to use 'ssh', but that's unaffected when i remove 'sshd'.

two questions: am i correct that i can remove these scripts from  init.d
without interfering with the ordinary functioning of my system ?
and why are they set up by default on a Gentoo system,
when they cd cause a security problem for a naive -- mb me -- user ?

and perhaps a 3rd question: are there any other similar items in  init.d ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging MPlayer

[Gregory P. Smith]

> This is a common problem with mplayer. It isn't portage's fault. This 
> problem occurs because the MPlayer developers release a newer version of 
> the font tarball, but name it the same. Because of this, emerge has no idea 

Yes it is portage's fault.  portage needs to be modified to support
ebuilds that can specify required files without a md5 and size for cases
like this.

Unless you like reanswering this question every three days and causing
many peoples super long emerges to fail in the middle rather than
completing when they leave the computer alone while it runs...

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Re: [gentoo-user] New software in portage

[Andrew Gaffney]

SMS WebMaster wrote:
Hi

I have found a very nice program at http://www.agata.org.br/index.php

I want to send this link to protage team so they add it in to portage , 
can anyone tell me what is there email ?
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-howto.xml

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] New software in portage

[Lincoln A. Baxter]

Looks like an interesting package.
Create a bug in bugs.gentoo.org requesting the addition.

Or even better, create the ebuild yourself. Its not that hard. There are
good docs for how to do it, and you can of course look at the ebuilds on
your system as samples, and then submit it.  

God knows how long it will take to get into portage. An ebuild I
submitted, still hasn't made it (more than 6 months later).  But it
might be because it was for a package that could be said to have
political problems... and I don't even use it any more, so I don't
really care.


Lincoln


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> Hi
> 
> I have found a very nice program at http://www.agata.org.br/index.php
> 
> I want to send this link to protage team so they add it in to portage , 
> can anyone tell me what is there email ?
> 
> Thank you
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Re: [gentoo-user] New software in portage

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:07:58 +0300 SMS WebMaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I have found a very nice program at http://www.agata.org.br/index.php
| 
| I want to send this link to protage team so they add it in to portage
| , can anyone tell me what is there email ?

http://bugs.gentoo.org/

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[gentoo-user] New software in portage

[SMS WebMaster]

Hi

I have found a very nice program at http://www.agata.org.br/index.php

I want to send this link to protage team so they add it in to portage , 
can anyone tell me what is there email ?

Thank you

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[gentoo-user] Anyone here using golem or pekwm?

[Susie]

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I've switched off openbox as I know v3 has been released.  I tried it
didn't like it.  Now I've pretty much got golem and pekwm set the way I
like except for two things.  

For pekwm I'm wondering if there is some
sort of pager around for it.  So far I've not found one and I've also
been unable to get wmpager or wmpc to work with it.   As for golem the
only issue I'm having with it is I don't see an explaination anywere of
how to make it shade.  I quite like the ability to double click the
title bar and have things roll up on occasion.

I'm busy with xmass type things and other stuff.  But I've found a few
more things I may make ebuilds for.  There is a theme tool wmtheme that
I don't see in portage masked or unmasked and a few gkrellm2 plugins
that also aren't in portage but gkrellm versions of them exist that wont
work with gkrellm2.

Anyways if anyone has any ideas on what pager might work or how to do
the shading please pass it on.  I couldn't find anything on the online
docs nor what was installed that would enlighten me as what to do.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mount /var/tmp/portage over nfs

[Luke Scharf]

On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 21:24, Zhang, Peng wrote:
> I don't have enough space to emerge openoffice, so I did the following:
> mount -t nfs ip:/folder /var/tmp/portage
[snip]
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> >>> emerge (1 of 1) app-office/openoffice-1.1.0-r2 to /
> !!! File system problem. (ReadOnly? Out of space?)
> !!! Perhaps: rm -Rf /var/tmp/portage
> !!! [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/var/tmp/portage'

Try adding "no_root_squash" to the exports on the server.  By default,
an NFS server will pretend that root on the remote machine is "nobody". 
Not that NFS is in any way secure, but this is a security feature.

There may be a "-o root_squash" option that you can add to your mount
command too.

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[gentoo-user] rp-pppoe fails with adsl-setup

[Alan Watson]

I ran adsl-setup and everything seemed to go OK. eth1 came up ok with
dhcpcd. But when I ran adsl-start I got the error message:

/usr/sbin/adsl-start: line 191:  2167 Terminated$CONNECT "$@"
>/dev/null 2>&1

Any help would be really appreciated.

Alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange error message installing kde

[Jason Stubbs]

On Friday 21 November 2003 21:14, Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
> emerge -k kde

> QSettings: error creating /root/.qt

By default, emerge compiles packages in a "sandbox". This prevents it from 
writing the main filesystem. That error is the package trying to create 
default qt settings for root which is being prevented by the sandboxing. If 
the compile doesn't die, it's almost always not a problem.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied

[Michael Milverton]

groups command will tell you what groups you belong to.
groups user will tell you what groups user belongs to.


On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:18 am, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> Sumeet Singh Parmar wrote:
> > you bumped yourself from the 'wheel' group and replaced with 'games'.
> > You need to run with '-g' option instead of '-G'.
>
> Cool, that did it. Any kind of GUI out there or command that will show
> all the groups I belong to?

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Re: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:18:51 -0500 Joel Konkle-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Cool, that did it. Any kind of GUI out there or command that will show
| all the groups I belong to?

groups

or for pretty graphical front-end:

xmessage `groups`

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Re: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Try man id for one
On Friday 21 November 2003 22:18, you wrote:
> Sumeet Singh Parmar wrote:
> > you bumped yourself from the 'wheel' group and replaced with 'games'.
> > You need to run with '-g' option instead of '-G'.
>
> Cool, that did it. Any kind of GUI out there or command that will show
> all the groups I belong to?

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Re: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Neal Lippman]

On Friday 21 November 2003 02:33 pm, Eric Paynter wrote:
> Mark Knecht said:
> >Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about
> > whether
> > courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me?
>
> We use courier. In the past year, it's been fast and reliable with
> no significant issues. I don't have any experience with Cyrus.
>


I have been using cyrus-imap both at home and at work for about 2 years, and 
have found it to be very fast and reliable. I have no personal experience 
with courier, however; the documentation that I have read about it makes it 
seem most desirable, however.

My main reason for selecting cyrus over courier is that cyrus is able to 
receive mail via lmtp as well as smtp, using a local socket for lmtp. The 
reason that is useful is that I retrieve mail from my outside maildrops using 
fetchmail, and fetchmail can deliver the mail to cyrus via lmtp so I don't 
need to run an smtp server at all. If you are already running smtp, that may 
be a less important feature for you.

To correct a comment made by someone else, cyrus does _not_ use mbox format 
for storing emails; it uses its own internal format based on BerkeleyDB. One 
drawback to this is that I have not yet established a really good way of 
exporting the emails from the database for archival purposes, and it would be 
handle to do this with a more generally readable format like maildir or mbox 
than just backing up the cyrus database itself. This is especially true 
because the installations of cyrus on various distros often differ in smalls 
but significant ways - for instance, my inittial cyrus installation was a 
compile-your-own on debian, using Berkeley DB version 4. When I moved to 
debian's official packages, that build was based on DB version 3, which meant 
that I had to get all of the emails out of the database, install the debian 
packages, then reimport the emails, which was a significant pain.

Cyrus is not all that easy to configure, the major problem being that cyrus's 
authentication is based on sasl, and I have found the cyrus-sasl 
documentation to be sparse at best. Each time I have done a cyrus install, I 
have run into small but show-stopping glitches, usually with sasl, that have 
cost me time until I could get things working - but once they are set up, 
cyrus works extremely well. From what I have read, courier is easier to get 
setup in the first place.

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Re: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied

[Joel Konkle-Parker]

Sumeet Singh Parmar wrote:
you bumped yourself from the 'wheel' group and replaced with 'games'. 
You need to run with '-g' option instead of '-G'.
Cool, that did it. Any kind of GUI out there or command that will show 
all the groups I belong to?

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RE: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied

[Sumeet Singh Parmar]

Title: RE: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied





you bumped yourself from the 'wheel' group and replaced with 'games'. You need to run with '-g' option instead of '-G'.


hth


> -Original Message-
> From: Joel Konkle-Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied
> 
> 
> Ok, I have no idea what happened here, but all of a sudden I lost the 
> ability to 'su' into root.
> 
> I did an `su` and logged in as root, emerged some stuff, and did a 
> `usermod -G games joeljkp` to add myself to the 'games' group. I then 
> did `exit` to get back to my account.
> 
> Now when I type `su`, I get an error that says `su: 
> permission denied`. 
> I've tried over and over again, with the correct password, 
> and nothing. 
> I can switch to tty1 and login as root to begin with, with the exact 
> same password, and it lets me in. Log in as myself, `su`, 
> same password, 
> and 'permission denied'.
> 
> What's going on here?
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied

[Daniel]

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> I did an `su` and logged in as root, emerged some stuff, and did a
> `usermod -G games joeljkp` to add myself to the 'games' group. I then
> did `exit` to get back to my account.
>

Are you still part of the wheel group - you should be.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mount /var/tmp/portage over nfs

[Andrew Gaffney]

Zhang, Peng wrote:
Hi folks,

I don't have enough space to emerge openoffice, so I did the following:
mount -t nfs ip:/folder /var/tmp/portage
bash-2.05b$ pwd
/var/tmp
bash-2.05b$ ll
total 5
drwxr-xr-x2 root root   48 2003-10-23 16:15 f-prot
drwxrwxrwx6 portage  portage  4096 2003-11-21 17:38 portage
drwxr-xr-x2 root root   48 2003-04-08 22:33 portage-pkg
pzhang root # emerge openoffice
Calculating dependencies ...done!
emerge (1 of 1) app-office/openoffice-1.1.0-r2 to /
!!! File system problem. (ReadOnly? Out of space?)
!!! Perhaps: rm -Rf /var/tmp/portage
!!! [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/var/tmp/portage'
I tested that I can copy file to that directory and also I can make new
folder under it. I don't know why the merge can not proceed. Can
somebody tell me why and how to solve it? Thanks!
What does the file /etc/exports say on the box that you are exporting the NFS share say? 
Also, what is the output of 'mount' on your laptop?

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[gentoo-user] su: permission denied

[Joel Konkle-Parker]

Ok, I have no idea what happened here, but all of a sudden I lost the 
ability to 'su' into root.

I did an `su` and logged in as root, emerged some stuff, and did a 
`usermod -G games joeljkp` to add myself to the 'games' group. I then 
did `exit` to get back to my account.

Now when I type `su`, I get an error that says `su: permission denied`. 
I've tried over and over again, with the correct password, and nothing. 
I can switch to tty1 and login as root to begin with, with the exact 
same password, and it lets me in. Log in as myself, `su`, same password, 
and 'permission denied'.

What's going on here?

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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

[Brenden Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > 
> 
> linc is a deprecated package that has been silently left off the
> dependency list of all updated software.
> 
> Most likely you've run depclean or something like that, and 
> this caused
> a in-between library that needs linc to break.  if you are very very
> goddarn certain its evolution, simply re-emerging evolution 
> will relink
> it without linc, but as far as I remember theres no dependency on linc
> there.
> 
> What needs to be done is finding the single library that 
> evolution links
> to that has the unsatisfied dependency on linc, and rebuild it.
> 
> Strange that revdep-rebuild hasn't caught it. (try removing old revdep
> tempfiles)


Well, here's the last bit of my most recent emerge attempt (just after an
emerge sync to make sure).  Looks like a broken package to me, but I could
be wrong.

Any thoughts graciously accepted ;-)

Making all in e-util
make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
make  all-recursive
make[3]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
Making all in .
make[4]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -mcpu=athlon -O2  -pipe -Wall -Wunused
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations-o libeutil.la -rpath
/usr/lib/evolution/1.4   e-account-list.lo e-account.lo
e-categories-config.lo e-categories-master-list-wombat.lo
e-component-listener.lo e-config-listener.lo e-corba-utils.lo
e-dialog-utils.lo e-dialog-widgets.lo e-gtk-utils.lo e-gui-utils.lo
e-host-utils.lo e-html-utils.lo e-iterator.lo e-lang-utils.lo
e-list-iterator.lo e-list.lo e-memory.lo e-meta.lo e-mktemp.lo e-msgport.lo
e-passwords.lo e-path.lo e-proxy.lo e-request.lo e-sexp.lo e-time-utils.lo
e-trie.lo e-url.lo e-util-marshal.lo e-xml-hash-utils.lo md5-utils.lo
-pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgal-2.0 -lgal-a11y-2.0
-lglade-2.0 -lgnomeprint-2-2 -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lxml2
-lpthread -lz -lgnome-2 -lpopt -lbonobo-2 -lgconf-2 -lgnomevfs-2
-lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lart_lgpl_2
-lpangoft2-1.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm
-lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl
-lsoup-2.0 -lglib-2.0   -lpthread -L/usr/lib -ldl -lplc4 -lplds4 -lnspr4
-lpthread
grep: /usr/lib/liblinc.la: No such file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/liblinc.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/liblinc.la' is not a valid libtool archive
make[4]: *** [libeutil.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5/e-util'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/evolution-1.4.5/work/evolution-1.4.5'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: net-mail/evolution-1.4.5 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 173, Exitcode 2
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RE: [gentoo-user] PIIXn tuning switch to allow my dell laptop to do udma5

[William Kenworthy]

what does "hdparm -i /dev/hda" show?

BillK

On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 21:13, Tracy LCpl Derek E wrote:
> I have the exact same setup and dmesg is showing me:
> hda: 39070080 sectors (20003 MB) w/1768Kib Cache, CHS=38760/16/63, UDMA(100)
> and I am running 2.6.0-test9-mm2 sources.  And so far everything on this
> C610 is functioning even ACPI.
> 
> Derek
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Kenworthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[gentoo-user] mount /var/tmp/portage over nfs

[Zhang, Peng]

Hi folks,

I don't have enough space to emerge openoffice, so I did the following:
mount -t nfs ip:/folder /var/tmp/portage
bash-2.05b$ pwd
/var/tmp
bash-2.05b$ ll
total 5
drwxr-xr-x2 root root   48 2003-10-23 16:15 f-prot
drwxrwxrwx6 portage  portage  4096 2003-11-21 17:38 portage
drwxr-xr-x2 root root   48 2003-04-08 22:33 portage-pkg
pzhang root # emerge openoffice
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) app-office/openoffice-1.1.0-r2 to /
!!! File system problem. (ReadOnly? Out of space?)
!!! Perhaps: rm -Rf /var/tmp/portage
!!! [Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/var/tmp/portage'

I tested that I can copy file to that directory and also I can make new
folder under it. I don't know why the merge can not proceed. Can
somebody tell me why and how to solve it? Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] DOOM ports?

[Norberto Bensa]

Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> What are my options for an original DOOM experience?

prboom is what I use and it is very close to the original 1993 release I 
played on DOS. BTW, remember to USE=-opengl ;-)

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure

[David Friggens]

* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-21 05:40]:
> Well portage has that, but one doesn't need to add these 'free' licenses 
> to it. And the automatic addition of accepted licenses doesn't work 
> yet, but I think it's under way. This was developed, because some games 
> need eula's accepted when installed. So if one adds license to the 
> ACCEPT_LICENSES or something like that. Then these ebuild does not need 
> ones acceptance before installing.

I remember this being mentioned as in progress quite a while ago. I
think it's a rather necessary part of a package management system, so I
don't know why it's taking so long.

You should be given the chance to `accept' the license before installing
software. (Sure you can grep LICENSE foo.ebuild, but that's not the
Gentoo way.)

I know it's not a big deal most of the time, but it is important. I may
not be a zealot of a particular philosophy (GNU, BSD, commercial, etc.)
but I'm concerned enough to reject on principle something with the kind
of licence that Borland put on Delphi a little while back [*].

Do I have anything like that on my Gentoo machines? I don't know because
portage hasn't told me and I haven't bothered to check, but I do know
that I don't on my NetBSD machines because pkgsrc only installs with the
licences specified in ACCEPT_LICENSE in make.conf.

Cheers
David

[*] something like "you can install this software for free [as in beer],
but if so we reserve the right to come to your home/work and inspect
your computer to check that you're using the software appropriately."
Sure, this is probably a hypothetical worry, but less so if more
software used it. Come to think of it isn't this what M$ wants to use?
(except s/free/a fee/g)

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Re: [gentoo-user] libsdl USE flags?

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:15:45 -0500
Joel Konkle-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm upgrading libsdl, and I'm getting the following USE flags:
> 
> media-libs/libsdl-1.2.6-r2 [1.2.5-r2] +oss +alsa +esd -arts -nas +X
> +dga 
> +xv -xinerama +fbcon +directfb +ggi +svga +aalib +opengl -noaudio 
> -novideo -nojoystick
> 
> There's a few there that I don't quite understand...
> 
> nas - I see it's Network Audio Sound or something... I'm not going to
> be  playing music through a network or anything, so I doubt I need
> this

pretty much correct, yes.

> dga - Direct Graphics Access; I use X all the time with the nVidia 
> drivers... what's this for?

this is for drivers that aren't nvidia binaries, they have a kernel
interface for fast rendering. with nvidia cards, its not applyable.


> directfb - same as above, I use nVidia-ized X to play my games and 
> things, why do I need this?

This is if you use the directfb interface. its "sorta X" but using the
kernel framebuffer. Doubt you'll need it.


> ggi - non-X video? why?
Its a generic Graphic interface..  library wrappers bascially.
doubt you'll need them.

 
> aalib - ASCII art? cool maybe, but is it a killer app for some reason?
Wee, cool. Render graphics as ascii, in a terminal  (xterm or console).
makes for some flashy fun stuff, but nothing more.


 
> 
> Can someone help me out here?
no ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

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El Sábado, 22 de Noviembre de 2003 01:31, Eric Paynter escribió:
> Andrew Gaffney said:
> > I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is
> > great, and Mozilla's  IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd
> > just use BitchX, but I want an X app. Can  anyone recommend
> > anything?
>
> I use KVIrc and love it. Very customizable, full scripting engine,
> etc., and it's stable.

I use KVirc too, but I think the last release is too old, so  I wrote a 
ebuild for fetching it from cvs. Perhaps, you'll find it usefull.

http://ftp.firenze.linux.it/pub/kvirc/contrib/gentoo/
kvirc-cvs-3.0.0_beta3.ebuild
>
> -Eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:23:29 -0600 Andrew Gaffney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is
| great, and Mozilla's IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd just
| use BitchX, but I want an X app. Can anyone recommend anything?

How about irssi in an Eterm?

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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

[Eric Paynter]

Andrew Gaffney said:
> Eric Paynter wrote:
>> I use KVIrc and love it. Very customizable, full scripting
>> engine, etc., and it's stable.
>
> Anything like Mirc for Windows?

Somewhat. If you're used to Mirc, you will have no problems using
it, and I don't think you'll be missing any features you're used to
having.

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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

[Redeeman]

no, not anything like mirc, in linux we only have good software :)

On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 01:38, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Eric Paynter wrote:
> > Andrew Gaffney said:
> > 
> >>I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is
> >>great, and Mozilla's  IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd
> >>just use BitchX, but I want an X app. Can  anyone recommend
> >>anything?
> > 
> > 
> > I use KVIrc and love it. Very customizable, full scripting engine,
> > etc., and it's stable.
> 
> Anything like Mirc for Windows?
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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

[Andrew Gaffney]

Eric Paynter wrote:
Andrew Gaffney said:

I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is
great, and Mozilla's  IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd
just use BitchX, but I want an X app. Can  anyone recommend
anything?


I use KVIrc and love it. Very customizable, full scripting engine,
etc., and it's stable.
Anything like Mirc for Windows?

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[gentoo-user] DOOM ports?

[Joel Konkle-Parker]

I have a copy of DOOM for DOS here, and I'd like to be able to play it 
on Linux. From what I can tell, there's several options (prboom, lxdoom, 
lsdldoom, doom-legacy, etc.) I want as close as I can get to the 
original, official game, though. No 'added features', 'patches', or 
'enhancements'. I've tried the official Linux DOOM from 
ftp.idsoftware.com, but it's compiled with a.out binaries, and so won't 
work for me. The source code doesn't compile cleanly either.

What are my options for an original DOOM experience?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange error message installing kde

[Leif B. Kristensen]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:14:44 +0100, "Leif B. Kristensen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Should I start all over again, or is this something that may be resolved
>later?

Excuse me, was this a bad question?

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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

[Jay Goodman Tamboli]

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 06:23:29PM -0600, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is great, 
> and Mozilla's IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd just use BitchX, 
> but I want an X app. Can anyone recommend anything?

I really like irssi, but if you need a GUI, I hear XChat is pretty good.

/jgt
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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

[Eric Paynter]

Andrew Gaffney said:
> I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is
> great, and Mozilla's  IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd
> just use BitchX, but I want an X app. Can  anyone recommend
> anything?

I use KVIrc and love it. Very customizable, full scripting engine,
etc., and it's stable.

-Eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

[Redeeman]

irssi for console, xchat for X

On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 01:23, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is great, and 
> Mozilla's 
> IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd just use BitchX, but I want an X app. 
> Can 
> anyone recommend anything?
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[gentoo-user] irc client

[Andrew Gaffney]

I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is great, and Mozilla's 
IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd just use BitchX, but I want an X app. Can 
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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables

[Andrew Farmer]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:29:45 -0800, Redeeman muttered:
> hi, i am seeking and application for easy building iptables scripts, its
> not anything advanced, it just gotta block some ports from public, and
> route some ports to another machine on my LAN, anyone can suggest an
> app?

rc.firewall - at projectfiles.com IIRC.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Printing from OpenOffice with Cups

[Keith Dart]

On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 11:01, Janne Johansson wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 07:30, Keith Dart wrote:
> > Run:  
> > /opt/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/spadmin
> 
> I knew that was the old way, but is it still valid?
> 
> I'm runnig Ximian-OO1.1 from BMG and spadmin isn't even available, it
> just works with cups right out of the ebuild. Has Ximian done something
> good for printing with their OO.

I guess so, because spadmin exists and works in my system. Running it, I
see my configured printer in my apps, and it prints fine. 



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[gentoo-user] update: c++ performance: gentoo, debian, windows

[Matt Garman]

A while back I posted a message talking about the performance
differences of a c++ program I wrote on gentoo and debian.  In the end,
I chalked up the performance degrade on gentoo to my having built gcc
with too many optimizations.  When I recompiled gcc with more
"conservative" settings, my program ran as fast or faster on gentoo.

If you recall, the processor/memory intensive part of my program is
reading a 50,000+ line CSV file into memory.  On my gentoo box, it takes
about 1.6 seconds to load this into memory.  On Windows, using MS Visual
Studio 6.0, it takes five or six seconds to load into memory!

I don't know how big a role computer speed plays, though.  My home
computer (gentoo) is an Athlon XP 2500 with 1 GB of ram.  My work
computer (windows) is a dual Xeon 1.5 GHz with 2 GB of ram.  Judging by
Windows Task Manager, only one CPU is used to load the data.  So,
loosely speaking, my home PC is 1.6 times faster, but the same process
is 3.1 times slower (on my work PC).

Again, this testing isn't scientific by any means, but I thought some
folks might be interested.

Looks good for gcc or AMD, in my opinion :)
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RE: [gentoo-user] iptables

[Rex Young]

> 
> 
> hi, i am seeking and application for easy building iptables 
> scripts, its
> not anything advanced, it just gotta block some ports from public, and
> route some ports to another machine on my LAN, anyone can suggest an
> app?
> 
> thanks!
> 
Many like shorewall, and some use fwbuilder.  My preference is
monmotha.  You can also read some and write your own.

-rex

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[gentoo-user] iptables

[Redeeman]

hi, i am seeking and application for easy building iptables scripts, its
not anything advanced, it just gotta block some ports from public, and
route some ports to another machine on my LAN, anyone can suggest an
app?

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[gentoo-user] libsdl USE flags?

[Joel Konkle-Parker]

I'm upgrading libsdl, and I'm getting the following USE flags:

media-libs/libsdl-1.2.6-r2 [1.2.5-r2] +oss +alsa +esd -arts -nas +X +dga 
+xv -xinerama +fbcon +directfb +ggi +svga +aalib +opengl -noaudio 
-novideo -nojoystick

There's a few there that I don't quite understand...

nas - I see it's Network Audio Sound or something... I'm not going to be 
playing music through a network or anything, so I doubt I need this

dga - Direct Graphics Access; I use X all the time with the nVidia 
drivers... what's this for?

directfb - same as above, I use nVidia-ized X to play my games and 
things, why do I need this?

ggi - non-X video? why?

aalib - ASCII art? cool maybe, but is it a killer app for some reason?

Can someone help me out here?

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[gentoo-user] RE : [gentoo-user] problem with X locking up

[Manuel McLure]

I got home from work this morning (I work nights), to find my machine
locked up.  This also happened the day before last.  I could not switch
to any of the terminals (via ctrl-alt-F1, etc).  I was able to login via
ssh from another pc, however.  After running top, I noticed X was using
99% cpu.  Sending X the SIGKILL signal was the only way I could get back
into the box w/o rebooting.  I'm kind of awestruck because I've used
linux for 6 or 7 years now and this is literally the first incident I've
had with anything locking up on me. It's happened twice so far, both
during the night while I was at work.  I would think if it was an
overheating problem it would happen during the day while I am sleeping,
but it hasn't so far.
Were you using any GL screensavers? I've found that the "flurry" 
screensaver would regularly cause my machine to hang overnight - it 
seems like "flurry" core dumps and locks the X server.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

[Brenden Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on 
> linc package?
> 
> 
> begin  quote
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500
> Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks 
> now (don't 
> > recollect the exact version).  I did a sync two days ago, and tried 
> > again. Same thing, missing liblinc.so
> > 
> 
> linc is a deprecated package that has been silently left off 
> the dependency list of all updated software.
> 
> Most likely you've run depclean or something like that, and 
> this caused a in-between library that needs linc to break.  
> if you are very very goddarn certain its evolution, simply 
> re-emerging evolution will relink it without linc, but as far 
> as I remember theres no dependency on linc there.

I've remerged Evolution several times, all with the same result.

> What needs to be done is finding the single library that 
> evolution links to that has the unsatisfied dependency on 
> linc, and rebuild it.

I'll see if I can find anything out about that..

> Strange that revdep-rebuild hasn't caught it. (try removing old revdep
> tempfiles)

I remove old revdep files after any run of revdep-rebuild.  Tried it several
times with no luck.  After a emerge -Udv world I managed to get
revdep-rebuild to actually rebuild Evolution... But when I try to execute it
still tries to load liblinc

I'll remove Linc and investigate further, thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500
Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks now (don't
> recollect the exact version).  I did a sync two days ago, and tried
> again.
> Same thing, missing liblinc.so
> 

linc is a deprecated package that has been silently left off the
dependency list of all updated software.

Most likely you've run depclean or something like that, and this caused
a in-between library that needs linc to break.  if you are very very
goddarn certain its evolution, simply re-emerging evolution will relink
it without linc, but as far as I remember theres no dependency on linc
there.



What needs to be done is finding the single library that evolution links
to that has the unsatisfied dependency on linc, and rebuild it.


Strange that revdep-rebuild hasn't caught it. (try removing old revdep
tempfiles)

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test9 X Windows lockup

[KamaolaKid]

I have had the exact same problem.

I've tried numerous re-installs with various options (multilib,
threads, -multilib, -threads etc etc)

If you discover a solution *please* let me know.

-- Kyle S.

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> Hello,
> test9 works fine for me in text mode, but if i run 'startx'
> or even 'XFree86 -probeonly' the system hard locks.
>
> /proc /sys /dev/pts, dev/shm and devfs are mounted.
> I'm not using the nvidia driver.
>
> I am using the ~x86 features.
>
> I reeemerged glibc (no nplt threads) and XFree and xfs.
> I'm stumped.
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>
> Regards
>
> Dad
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of Gentoo onto Dell blade server - solved problems

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:56:50 +0100
Martin Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Nice guide, thankyou.

I took the opportunity to publishing it (unmodified)  on
http://gentoo.org/~spider/   so as to be easier to access.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers

[Helgi Örn Helgason]

On 2003-11-19, Chris I wrote:
> ati-drivers is ati's binary drivers for their firegl line of cards (as  
> well as the radeon 8500 and above). It won't work for your rage 128.
> 
> You will want to use xfree's ati driver, and if you want 3d  
> accelleration, emerge xfree-drm.
> 
You were right, it's the xfree86 package, r128 driver. This card doesn't
have any 3d accelleration.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

Eric Paynter wrote:
> Marius Mauch said:
>> That's wrong, Cyrus is using it's own format which is neither mbox
>> or maildir. The major difference is that Cyrus doesn't permit
>> direct access to the mailboxes (they are stored in
>> /var/spool/imap, not in $HOME and users don't have access to it),
>> you can only access it over POP or IMAP. Personally I like that
>> approach but if you want/need direct access to your mailbox files
>> Cyrus isn't designed for you. Which of them is faster depends on
>> your custom setup (especially harddisc setup), but from what I
>> heard Cyrus scales better.
>
> That sounds a little inflexible. I like the approach of using a
> standard mailbox format so that POP, IMAP, SMTP, Webmail, etc., can
> all be selected independently. However, I guess it all depends on
> your needs.
>
> -Eric

I use Courier-IMAP.  I think it is a great choice because it performs well,
it allows concurrent access to email (mbox format does not, it will lock
other processes out) and the email is stored in my local directory.  This
last point gives me greater flexibility with the use of procmail and
spam/virus filtering.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?

[Luke Scharf]

On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 02:21, Martin Horak wrote:
> Even better is IMHO courier. It's based on qmail's idea, but is a
> little bit "normalized".

I've used Courier in the past, and it rocks!

But I thought it was better suited for large installations...  It's been
a long time since I set it up, though, and I can't remember the details
of what made it good for big sites.

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[gentoo-user] 2.6.0-test9 X Windows lockup

[John Huttley]

Hello,
test9 works fine for me in text mode, but if i run 'startx'
or even 'XFree86 -probeonly' the system hard locks.

/proc /sys /dev/pts, dev/shm and devfs are mounted.
I'm not using the nvidia driver.

I am using the ~x86 features.

I reeemerged glibc (no nplt threads) and XFree and xfs.
I'm stumped.

Any ideas anyone?

Regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Eric Paynter]

Marius Mauch said:
> That's wrong, Cyrus is using it's own format which is neither mbox
> or maildir. The major difference is that Cyrus doesn't permit
> direct access to the mailboxes (they are stored in
> /var/spool/imap, not in $HOME and users don't have access to it),
> you can only access it over POP or IMAP. Personally I like that
> approach but if you want/need direct access to your mailbox files
> Cyrus isn't designed for you. Which of them is faster depends on
> your custom setup (especially harddisc setup), but from what I
> heard Cyrus scales better.

That sounds a little inflexible. I like the approach of using a
standard mailbox format so that POP, IMAP, SMTP, Webmail, etc., can
all be selected independently. However, I guess it all depends on
your needs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to emerge nvidia 1.0-4363 driver ?

[brett holcomb]

You're welcome.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:33:48 -0600
 Harley Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
brett holcomb wrote:
You can merge it by giving emerge that path and name of 
that ebuild.  
Then you can modify /etc/package.mask (or create it) and 
tell it =that 
version.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:12:44 -0600
Harley Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have the nvidia 1.0-4496 driver emerged and working 
with Gentoo.
But would like to use the 4363 driver instead. (It is 
more compatible 
with Mythtv)
Is there anyway to emerge it ? And if so how do i keep 
emerge -u world 
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Ok by doing what you said and creating a 
/etc/portage/package.mask file and putting in 
=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.4496 it worked.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome: empty bottom panel

[Andrew Farmer]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:41:53 -0800, Oliver Lange muttered:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> My gnome bottom edge panel crashed, now after rebooting
> i got an empty panel with no 'show desktop' button,
> no window list and no workspace switcher.
> In a nutshell: the panel is absolutely empty.
> 
> How can i fix this ?

Right-click on the panel to add items.

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RE: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Ric Messier]

> > this is probably caused by them being larger than about
> > 300MB. Mine's about
> > a gig.
> 
> Hmm, one of mine just grew over 300m.. I really hate Microsoft and their
> programmers
> 

Well, I typically have them around 500M with no problems at all. My wife
runs just below 2G and the only time she has serious problems are when she
pops over the 2G level. So, doesn't sound like you can blame Microsoft and
their programmers exclusively.

> >I wanted to install some form of imap and look into moving my mail
> > storage there as a precursor to totally dropping Windows at
> > work sometime
> > after the start of the year. I think my first step would be
> > to get something
> > like this installed, working, and then make sure I can get it
> > backed up as
> > well.

IMAP is a bit odd and can take some getting used to.

> 
> Man I wish I could do that.
> 
> >Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about whether
> > courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me?
> 
> Courier seems to be better.. Faster.. I have used both.. cyrus uses the
> mbox format and your back to using huge files again  and the problems that
> go with it.
> 

Actually, the one that has worked best for me is UW-Imap. Comes with Pine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] fwbuilder question

[Mike Williams]

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On Friday 21 November 2003 00:04, Jason Calabrese wrote:
> > Run the script once, then '/etc/init.d/iptables save'. The next time
> > iptables is started the rules will be restored.
>
> Thats what I do on RedHat, but Gentoo doesn't have a save function in the
> /etc/init.d/iptables script.
>
> Unless there is newer verion than the one I have.
>
> > /etc/init.d/iptables save
>
>  * ERROR:  wrong args. (  save / save )
>
>  * Usage: iptables { start|stop|restart }
>  *iptables without arguments for full help

There must be:
redshat root # /etc/init.d/iptables save
 * Saving iptables state... [ ok ]
redshat root # qpkg -v -f /etc/init.d/iptables
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to emerge nvidia 1.0-4363 driver ?

[Harley Peters]

brett holcomb wrote:
You can merge it by giving emerge that path and name of that ebuild.  
Then you can modify /etc/package.mask (or create it) and tell it =that 
version.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:12:44 -0600
 Harley Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have the nvidia 1.0-4496 driver emerged and working with Gentoo.
But would like to use the 4363 driver instead. (It is more compatible 
with Mythtv)
Is there anyway to emerge it ? And if so how do i keep emerge -u world 
from wanting to "upgrade" it to 4496.

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and putting in >=media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.4496 it worked.
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Re: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Marius Mauch]

On 11/21/03  Jeffrey Smelser wrote:

> >Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about whether
> > courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me?
> 
> Courier seems to be better.. Faster.. I have used both.. cyrus uses
> the mbox format and your back to using huge files again  and the
> problems that go with it.

That's wrong, Cyrus is using it's own format which is neither mbox or
maildir. The major difference is that Cyrus doesn't permit direct access
to the mailboxes (they are stored in /var/spool/imap, not in $HOME and
users don't have access to it), you can only access it over POP or IMAP.
Personally I like that approach but if you want/need direct access to
your mailbox files Cyrus isn't designed for you. Which of them is faster
depends on your custom setup (especially harddisc setup), but from what
I heard Cyrus scales better.

HTH
Marius

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RE: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Matthew Baxa]

On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 13:54, Chris Carter wrote:
> > It doesn't matter, imap is imap as far as the mail reader is 
> > concerned.. Its a choice of Maildir to mbox really as far as 
> > the server. 
> 
> IMHO, the RFC defining IMAP is not very well written and gives to
> multiple different interpretations of how IMAP should be implemented.

Thats pretty typical of RFCs.  They arn't intended as implementation
guides.
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RE: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Chris Carter]

> It doesn't matter, imap is imap as far as the mail reader is 
> concerned.. Its a choice of Maildir to mbox really as far as 
> the server. 

IMHO, the RFC defining IMAP is not very well written and gives to
multiple different interpretations of how IMAP should be implemented.
Hence not all IMAP servers work well with all IMAP-capable clients.
Often IMAP server developers include little tweaks in order to recognise
ill-behaved (?) clients and 'talk' to them suitably. Courier-IMAP and
Cyrus are both good products.

Another aspect is the storage system. This is regardless of IMAP/POP. I
can think of three methods: maildir, mbox and databased. Maildir is
pretty solid in the sense that mail messages are stored in individual
files; personally I am currently playing with the database option (using
DBMail, which is not in Portage but it is very easy to compile and
setup).

A combination between any SMTP server (top 4 in no particular order:
Postfix, sendmail, exim and qmail) and Courier-IMAP or Cyrus will work
just fine. These are not configured quickly and fast, so get ready for a
bumpy ride. If you're looking for something simple and quick, take a
look at extremail (it is very easy to setup and in my experience,
rock-solid).

Cheers!
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[gentoo-user] gnome: empty bottom panel

[Oliver Lange]

Hello everybody,

My gnome bottom edge panel crashed, now after rebooting
i got an empty panel with no 'show desktop' button,
no window list and no workspace switcher.
In a nutshell: the panel is absolutely empty.
How can i fix this ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Eric Paynter]

Mark Knecht said:
>Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about
> whether
> courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me?

We use courier. In the past year, it's been fast and reliable with
no significant issues. I don't have any experience with Cyrus.

-eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] logging in remotely on CUPS

[Peter Dijkstra]

problem solved, I had to specify the exact IP of the laptop I used, not the IP 
of the listening Eth0.
(192.168.1.1 server, 192.168.1.10 laptop)

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On Friday 21 November 2003 19:54, brett holcomb wrote:
> Check in /etc/cups/cups??.conf.  If I remember there are
> some settings that determine who can admin or access cups.
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:23:42 +0100
>
>   Peter Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I've installed on my server, but the CUPSD-server won't
> >allow me to log in
> >from my local network.
> >I've searched te forums and the net but didn't found a
> >solution.
> >Does anybody has a solution for this?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Peter Dijkstra (Douwedabbert)
> >
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RE: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Jeffrey Smelser]

> Hi,
>I've recently had a rash of problems at work with my 
> Outlook mail files
> growing too large and then getting corrupted. Some Googling 
> around says that
> this is probably caused by them being larger than about 
> 300MB. Mine's about
> a gig.

Hmm, one of mine just grew over 300m.. I really hate Microsoft and their programmers
 
>I wanted to install some form of imap and look into moving my mail
> storage there as a precursor to totally dropping Windows at 
> work sometime
> after the start of the year. I think my first step would be 
> to get something
> like this installed, working, and then make sure I can get it 
> backed up as
> well.

Man I wish I could do that.
 
>Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about whether
> courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me?

Courier seems to be better.. Faster.. I have used both.. cyrus uses the mbox format 
and your back to using huge files again  and the problems that go with it.

My problem with maildir, is that pine doesn't work with it well. My inbox is fine, but 
it reverts back to mbox for the folders. I can't figure out if its something I did, or 
a pine problem..
 
>Any reason I should choose one over the other? The description for
> courier-imap says it was designed for maildirs. Whatever I 
> choose would
> probably need to support both Evolution and Outlook users at 
> the same time.

It doesn't matter, imap is imap as far as the mail reader is concerned.. Its a choice 
of Maildir to mbox really as far as the server. 

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[gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   I've recently had a rash of problems at work with my Outlook mail files
growing too large and then getting corrupted. Some Googling around says that
this is probably caused by them being larger than about 300MB. Mine's about
a gig.

   I wanted to install some form of imap and look into moving my mail
storage there as a precursor to totally dropping Windows at work sometime
after the start of the year. I think my first step would be to get something
like this installed, working, and then make sure I can get it backed up as
well.

   Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about whether
courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me?

   Any reason I should choose one over the other? The description for
courier-imap says it was designed for maildirs. Whatever I choose would
probably need to support both Evolution and Outlook users at the same time.

   Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Cheers,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

[Brenden Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Mushi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Are u in the x86 "stable" or "unstable" stream? Cos I had 
> been using evolution for a long time and then began to 
> upgrade my Gnome to 2.4...I took the chance to upgrade a 
> whole load of other "critical" packages on my 
> system as well and because I staggered the whole emerge world 
> upgrade there was a period which evolution didn;t work at all 
> and my whole Gnome was stuck in limbo with some 2.2 and 2.4 
> libraries (I had autoclean off...but that;s another story) 
> but all was good once I cleaned out all the 2.2 stuff

Stable only, and I run KDE so I've only got necessary parts of Gnome
installed..  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Printing from OpenOffice with Cups

[Janne Johansson]

On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 07:30, Keith Dart wrote:
> Run:  
> /opt/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/spadmin

I knew that was the old way, but is it still valid?

I'm runnig Ximian-OO1.1 from BMG and spadmin isn't even available, it
just works with cups right out of the ebuild. Has Ximian done something
good for printing with their OO.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

[Simon Mushi]

Hi,


Are u in the x86 "stable" or "unstable" stream? Cos I had been using
evolution for a long time and then began to upgrade my Gnome to 2.4...I
took the chance to upgrade a whole load of other "critical" packages on my 
system as well and because I staggered the whole emerge world upgrade
there was a period which evolution didn;t work at all and my whole Gnome
was stuck in limbo with some 2.2 and 2.4 libraries (I had autoclean
off...but that;s another story) but all was good
once I cleaned out all the 2.2 stuff

Simon 

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Brenden Walker wrote:

> I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks now (don't
> recollect the exact version).  I did a sync two days ago, and tried again.
> Same thing, missing liblinc.so
> 
> Tried --deep, revdep-rebuild, cleared package cache No luck.
> 
> A big of investigation, and found liblinc.so is in the linc package.
> Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well.
> 
> Is this just something that was missed?  Or did my package tree somehow get
> messed up?
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Re: [gentoo-user] logging in remotely on CUPS

[brett holcomb]

Check in /etc/cups/cups??.conf.  If I remember there are 
some settings that determine who can admin or access cups.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:23:42 +0100
 Peter Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,

I've installed on my server, but the CUPSD-server won't 
allow me to log in 
from my local network.
I've searched te forums and the net but didn't found a 
solution.
Does anybody has a solution for this?

Thanks in advance,

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[gentoo-user] slow terminal

[Kurt Bechstein]

This is kind of a weird issue.  If I start my laptop without it being
plugged into a network it seems to work just fine.  However, if I boot
it up with it plugged into the network and then take down the network
interface down my xterms become very sluggish for some reason.  If I
then bring the network interface back up terminals run fine.  As I said
if the laptop is never plugged into the network it never exhibits this
problem.  Other applications seems to run ok, it just seems to be
terminals.  Anyone else ever experienced this one.  Thanks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups

[Kurt Bechstein]

Yes, I believe it was simply heat related.  I don't usually burn that
many cds myself either but I was helping a friend get ready for a expo
in Los Angeles this weekend so we had to burn a lot of cds.  I was able
to point a big fan at it and it burned like a champ.



On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 13:34, Collins Richey wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:30:17 -0500 Kurt Bechstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups?  
> 
> Never.
> 
> < I've just only recently
> > noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row.  I would to be able
> > to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would
> > freeze.  
> 
> No idea, I don't burn that many CDs.
> 
> > I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4.  I'm just using
> > cdrecord from the command line as well.  
> 
> I use the ATAPI support (not SCSI emulation, i.e 'cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 ...'
> 
> < I looked through
> > /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't
> > find anything.  The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't
> > ssh into it or anything.
> > 
> > I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok
> > again.  This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop.
> > 
> 
> As others posted, this is likely to ve an overheating and/or memory problem. 
> Check temperatures and maybe run memtest86.


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[gentoo-user] logging in remotely on CUPS

[Peter Dijkstra]

Hi all,

I've installed on my server, but the CUPSD-server won't allow me to log in 
from my local network.
I've searched te forums and the net but didn't found a solution.
Does anybody has a solution for this?

Thanks in advance,

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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

[Brenden Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: Collins Richey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500 Brenden Walker 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 


> package. 
> > Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well.
> > 
> > Is this just something that was missed?  Or did my package tree 
> > somehow get messed up?
> 
> check bugzilla and if not found open a bug.  Thee should be 
> no mystery dependancies for an ebuild.

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.  I have a feeling
that some other commonly installed package must be installing linc for other
users..  Haven't heard a peep about this from anyone else, which led me to
believe it might be my problem ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups

[Collins Richey]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:30:17 -0500 Kurt Bechstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups?  

Never.

< I've just only recently
> noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row.  I would to be able
> to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would
> freeze.  

No idea, I don't burn that many CDs.

> I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4.  I'm just using
> cdrecord from the command line as well.  

I use the ATAPI support (not SCSI emulation, i.e 'cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 ...'

< I looked through
> /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't
> find anything.  The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't
> ssh into it or anything.
> 
> I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok
> again.  This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop.
> 

As others posted, this is likely to ve an overheating and/or memory problem. 
Check temperatures and maybe run memtest86.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to emerge nvidia 1.0-4363 driver ?

[brett holcomb]

You can merge it by giving emerge that path and name of 
that ebuild.  Then you can modify /etc/package.mask (or 
create it) and tell it =that version.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:12:44 -0600
 Harley Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have the nvidia 1.0-4496 driver emerged and working 
with Gentoo.
But would like to use the 4363 driver instead. (It is 
more compatible with Mythtv)
Is there anyway to emerge it ? And if so how do i keep 
emerge -u world from wanting to "upgrade" it to 4496.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

[Collins Richey]

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500 Brenden Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks now (don't
> recollect the exact version).  I did a sync two days ago, and tried again.
> Same thing, missing liblinc.so
> 
> Tried --deep, revdep-rebuild, cleared package cache No luck.
> 
> A big of investigation, and found liblinc.so is in the linc package.
> Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well.
> 
> Is this just something that was missed?  Or did my package tree somehow get
> messed up?

check bugzilla and if not found open a bug.  Thee should be no mystery
dependancies for an ebuild.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files

[Oliver Lange]

Martin Horak wrote:
OK, ok, not very bad... :-) But I can imagine situation: I compile some 
program, which has no ebuild, and it depends on some library, which is 
in standard ebuild package, but I cannot find it, if its name is 
completely different from ebuild's name.
Yeah, this is in general the only problem i see when using gentoo:
installing software which hasn't been added to the gentoo package
database yet. Fortunately, the gentoo database is already pretty
large and it continuously grows and grows..
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RE: [gentoo-user] Shrinking my TightVNC session

[Mark Knecht]

vncserver -geometry??

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:43 AM
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> Subject: [gentoo-user] Shrinking my TightVNC session
> 
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> G'day list,
> 
> Quick question: my Gentoo PC runs at 1280x1024, but the XP laptop 
> I VNC into it from only goes up to 1024x768.  How can I change 
> this so the new resolution runs at the smaller resolution?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Doug Gorley | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [gentoo-user] Questions on SSH config files and protocol

[Oliver Lange]

Stephen Liu wrote:
Hi folks,

I have following questions

1) There are 2 config files
/etc/ssh/ssh_config
/etc/ssh/sshd_config
ssh_config is for the ssh client, used when you connect to anywhere,
where you can e.g. decide about your prefered encryption cipher,
e.g. "Cipher = blowfish".
sshd_config sets up the ssh deamon, which is the one waiting for
someone connecting on your box. Here you might specify who is allowed
to connect, which ciphers are allowed for connections, and other
security-related issues.
You may find some more words about SSH in the gentoo security guide
at gentoo.org.
2) Protocol 2,1
What are SSH2 and SSH1 and their function.
Use 'Protocol 2' only, unless you really need the older protocol 1.

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[gentoo-user] Shrinking my TightVNC session

[douggorley]

G'day list,

Quick question: my Gentoo PC runs at 1280x1024, but the XP laptop I VNC into it from 
only goes up to 1024x768.  How can I change this so the new resolution runs at the 
smaller resolution?

Thanks again,

Doug Gorley | [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [gentoo-user] moving to new partition

[Oliver Lange]

John Ross Hunt wrote:
I've always used this for moving data to new partitions:

 % cd /mnt/gentoo/var
 % find -xdev -depth -print | cpio -padvmB /mnt/gentoo/newvar
There are many ways to Rome - like this one. I never thought
about using 'find' for this.. :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] rebuild all

[Oliver Lange]

John Ross Hunt wrote:
Is there an emerge option for rebuilding the whole box
(assuming all emerged source tarballs still present) ?
Try this, it works better than "emerge -e" because it rebuilds the currently
installed packages only (no upgrades or downgrades).
 qpkg -I -nc -v | sed "s:^:\\\=:" | xargs emerge -p

And again a completely different solution :)... this one
looks pretty simple, i've sent the output to less instead of
xargs emerge and it looked just like what i want. Thank you..
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[gentoo-user] How to emerge nvidia 1.0-4363 driver ?

[Harley Peters]

I have the nvidia 1.0-4496 driver emerged and working with Gentoo.
But would like to use the 4363 driver instead. (It is more compatible 
with Mythtv)
Is there anyway to emerge it ? And if so how do i keep emerge -u world 
from wanting to "upgrade" it to 4496.

Harley Peters

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Re: [gentoo-user] What messed with my make.conf?

[Matthew Baxa]

On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 13:40, Steve Withers wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 18:28, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 November 2003 08:35 pm, 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Steve Withers wrote:
> > > > I've been steadily adding value to my USE= list..and was
> > > > surprised today to find that it now has only "dvd gtk2"...and all
> > > > the rest are gone.
> > >
> > > perhaps it was "cleaned up" by etc-update after an emerge of
> > > protage or base-layout  (included in system)
> > >
> > >  > I wish I had a backup of my make.conf..
> > >
> > > yes, that is a good idea
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
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> > 
> > Steve, 
> > The same sort of thing has happened to me and many others at one time 
> > or another. Most of us have learned what files no to update blindly 
> > after an emerge -u world. Many have developed backup strategies as 
> > well. I have 2 backup plans in effect for my main box and certain 
> > files on the web server. The server, of course has a backup of the 
> > site and db's on another box plus cd backups are done as changes are 
> > made. My main production box has a directory in my home dir called 
> > /etc_backup. There, are copies of all configs that would really hurt 
> > if lost. As well, I run a cron job that runs a nightly scrip that 
> > does an rsync backup of all important files. Redundant? Yes, 
> > probably. Crazy? nope I have 4 copies of make.conf.
> > Please don't take this wrong. I don't want to come off like I'm 
> > scolding you. I speak from experience I blew off XF86Config, 
> > make.conf and fstab in one fell swoop last February. Now that would 
> > take 5 minutes to fix, then it was all day.
> 
> You can't scold me. I had no way of knowing that key config files would
> be messed with without my knowledge. 
> 
> I haven't used a version of Linux between 1994 and now that would do
> that.

It wasn't without your knowledge, I have *never* had make.conf modified
by an package w/o running etc-update.  Even in etc-update it lists the
files that need to be updated.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups

[Kurt Bechstein]

I'm beginning to think this is heat related as well.  It got a little
farther in 2.4 but then it locked up again under 2.4 just spewing out a
bunch of scsi errors in the log files and wouldn't even eject the cd no
matter what I tried. 


On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 10:34, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Kurt Bechstein wrote:
> > Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups?  I've just only recently
> > noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row.  I would to be able
> > to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would
> > freeze.  I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4.  I'm just using
> > cdrecord from the command line as well.  I looked through
> > /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't
> > find anything.  The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't
> > ssh into it or anything.
> > 
> > I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok
> > again.  This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop.
> 
> Is it possible that its a heat issue? CD drives tend to generate a lot of heat, and 
> that's 
> not good in the confined space of a laptop. Can you check the temperatures in the 
> BIOS 
> when you restart it? When you switched back to 2.4, did you try burning 5 or so CDs 
> to see 
> if it would lock up again?
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[gentoo-user] OpenOffice 1.1 font bug?

[Karl Huysmans]

Hi all,

After upgrading to OpenOffice 1.1, the fonts in OO calc's font menu is
different from the other programs (writer, impress ...)

All the modules seem to follow the logic described in their font guide
(http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/fontguide.html). For Gentoo, fonts from:

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
output from /usr/sbin/chkfontpath (not installed)
fontpath returned by XGetFontPath() (??)
/opt/OpenOffice/share/fonts/truetype
user fonts installed with spadmin

As far as I can see, this seems to be correct.

For calc, all fonts available to the X server are available.

I have a system with a lot of fonts (over 500), and things become quite
confusing this way. Further, when I try to select a font in calc, the
entire desktop hangs for about 2-3 minutes, very annoying. When I kill
the X server using CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, X refuses to restart, have to
reboot Linux.

I am using xfs, but direct fontpath configuration in /etc/X11/XF86config
does not seem to change anything.

Anyone a clue?

THX



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Re: [gentoo-user] File transfer with SSH

[MAL]

Stephen Liu wrote:
Hi MAL,

Your advice works seamlessly.

I am interested to learn how to create a front-end ICON (GUI) on desktop 
with dropdown list for selecting options  executing those commands 
discussed previously.   (On Windows Flash can do the job)

Not starting on KDE desktop ->  right click -> Create New -> Link to 
Application -> etc.
Nor starting from KStart -> right click -> Menu Editor -> etc.

I can create executable icons with the abovementioned 2 routes to 
execute those commands separately.

Any advice or pointer would be appreciated.
I don't have much experience with KDE, so I can't help you directly. 
Simply creating a shortcut to a bash script with the ssh commands in 
would work, though you would need to run them via xterm in order to be 
able to type passwords in.

If you'd like to avoid passwords, look into SSH public key authentication.

MAL

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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm .xinitrc

[Kurt V. Hindenburg]

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In general, the XDM -> .xsession is a mess.  Check out this bug report 
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http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32237
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: PostgreSQL 7.4

[Jeff MacDonald]

yup, that found it, thanks.


On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 11:26, Ric Messier wrote:
> Is it still ~ masked? If you ACCEPT_KEYWODS="~x86" emerge -pU postgresql
> does it pick it up?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeff MacDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:17 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > yeah, i see it there now in my portage tree, but for some reason it's
> > not getting picked up when i do emerge -Up world.
> > 
> > anyhints ?
> > 
> > jeff.
> > 
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] File transfer with SSH

[Stephen Liu]

Hi MAL,

Your advice works seamlessly.

I am interested to learn how to create a front-end ICON (GUI) on desktop 
with dropdown list for selecting options  executing those commands 
discussed previously.   (On Windows Flash can do the job)

Not starting on KDE desktop ->  right click -> Create New -> Link to 
Application -> etc.
Nor starting from KStart -> right click -> Menu Editor -> etc.

I can create executable icons with the abovementioned 2 routes to 
execute those commands separately.

Any advice or pointer would be appreciated.

Thanks

B.R.
Stephen
MAL wrote:

Stephen Liu wrote:

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "cd /path/to/folder ; tar zc ." | tar zxx


It works, "zx" only.  What is the function of "space" and "." after 
"tar zc"?


Yes, sorry.. zx is correct, not zxx.  Blame the coffee :)

When compressing, if tar isn't compressing stdin, it needs to be told 
what to compress.
'.' specifies the current directory (on the remote host), which we 
have just changed to with cd.

If I expect to untar the tarball to a selected folder, instead of 
changing to the folder first to issue the command, can following 
command do the job

$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "cd /path/to/folder(MachineB) ; tar zc ." | "cd 
/path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx"


I'm not sure it will, because 'cd' will then get stdin piped to it, 
and not to tar.  I'll test...

ok, the problem with your command is that bash does not see "" as a 
command, and so won't execute:

"cd /path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx"

Instead, you must run those commands in a subshell, like this:

$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "cd /path/to/folder(MachineB) ; tar zc ." | ( cd 
/path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx )

ie. brackets instead of double quotes.

That worked for me :)

MAL




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Re: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'

[Andrew Gaffney]

Jason Stubbs wrote:
On Saturday 22 November 2003 00:19, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

Jason Stubbs wrote:

On Friday 21 November 2003 05:03, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:

# emerge -p depclean

*** WARNING *** : DEPCLEAN CAN  SERIOUSLY  IMPAIR YOUR SYSTEM. USE
CAUTION. *** WARNING *** : (Cancel: CONTROL-C) -- ALWAYS VERIFY ALL
PACKAGES IN THE *** WARNING *** : CANDIDATE LIST FOR  SANITY  BEFORE 
ALLOWING DEPCLEAN TO *** WARNING *** : UNMERGE ANY PACKAGES.
*** WARNING *** :
*** WARNING *** : USE FLAGS MAY HAVE AN EXTREME EFFECT ON THE OUTPUT.
*** WARNING *** : SOME LIBRARIES MAY BE USED BY PACKAGES BUT ARE NOT
*** WARNING *** : CONSIDERED TO BE A DEPEND DUE TO USE FLAG SETTINGS.
*** WARNING *** :
*** WARNING *** : Packages  in the list  that are  desired  may be added
*** WARNING *** : directly to the world file to cause them to be ignored
*** WARNING *** : by declean and maintained in the future. BREAKAGES DUE
*** WARNING *** : TO UNMERGING AN  IN-USE  LIBRARIES  MAY BE REPAIRED BY
*** WARNING *** : MERGING  *** THE PACKAGE THAT COMPLAINS ***  ABOUT THE
*** WARNING *** : MISSING LIBRARY.

It will delete dependencies that are required by packages.. It says so
right there.. And if that's not enough..
It may delete dependencies that are required by packages if the required
packages were installed with different use flags to what is currently
set. Yes, it's a bug. If you don't change your use flags, this command is
perfectly safe. If you do change your use flags, there is an app called
revdep-rebuild which will fix any packages that become broken.
'emerge depclean' is bad and evil and should not be used. Plain old
'depclean' (comes with gentoolkit) is a much better tool for this kind of
thing.


Hmmm... haven't used that. I take it that it takes the use flags that a 
package was built with into account rather than using the current ones? 
(There sitting right there in /var/db///USE).
Yes. I'm still paranoid and use qpkg to verify what it says, but it is almost always 
correct. Besides, it just gives you a list. It does not unmerge them itself.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups

[Matthew Kennedy]

Kurt Bechstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups?  I've just only recently
> noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row.  I would to be able
> to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would
> freeze.  I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4.  I'm just using

[...]

Does it lockup when you burn without SCSI emulation?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'

[Jason Stubbs]

On Saturday 22 November 2003 00:19, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > On Friday 21 November 2003 05:03, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:
> >># emerge -p depclean
> >>
> >>*** WARNING *** : DEPCLEAN CAN  SERIOUSLY  IMPAIR YOUR SYSTEM. USE
> >> CAUTION. *** WARNING *** : (Cancel: CONTROL-C) -- ALWAYS VERIFY ALL
> >> PACKAGES IN THE *** WARNING *** : CANDIDATE LIST FOR  SANITY  BEFORE 
> >> ALLOWING DEPCLEAN TO *** WARNING *** : UNMERGE ANY PACKAGES.
> >>*** WARNING *** :
> >>*** WARNING *** : USE FLAGS MAY HAVE AN EXTREME EFFECT ON THE OUTPUT.
> >>*** WARNING *** : SOME LIBRARIES MAY BE USED BY PACKAGES BUT ARE NOT
> >>*** WARNING *** : CONSIDERED TO BE A DEPEND DUE TO USE FLAG SETTINGS.
> >>*** WARNING *** :
> >>*** WARNING *** : Packages  in the list  that are  desired  may be added
> >>*** WARNING *** : directly to the world file to cause them to be ignored
> >>*** WARNING *** : by declean and maintained in the future. BREAKAGES DUE
> >>*** WARNING *** : TO UNMERGING AN  IN-USE  LIBRARIES  MAY BE REPAIRED BY
> >>*** WARNING *** : MERGING  *** THE PACKAGE THAT COMPLAINS ***  ABOUT THE
> >>*** WARNING *** : MISSING LIBRARY.
> >>
> >>It will delete dependencies that are required by packages.. It says so
> >>right there.. And if that's not enough..
> >
> > It may delete dependencies that are required by packages if the required
> > packages were installed with different use flags to what is currently
> > set. Yes, it's a bug. If you don't change your use flags, this command is
> > perfectly safe. If you do change your use flags, there is an app called
> > revdep-rebuild which will fix any packages that become broken.
>
> 'emerge depclean' is bad and evil and should not be used. Plain old
> 'depclean' (comes with gentoolkit) is a much better tool for this kind of
> thing.

Hmmm... haven't used that. I take it that it takes the use flags that a 
package was built with into account rather than using the current ones? 
(There sitting right there in /var/db///USE).

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups

[Andrew Gaffney]

Kurt Bechstein wrote:
Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups?  I've just only recently
noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row.  I would to be able
to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would
freeze.  I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4.  I'm just using
cdrecord from the command line as well.  I looked through
/var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't
find anything.  The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't
ssh into it or anything.
I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok
again.  This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop.
Is it possible that its a heat issue? CD drives tend to generate a lot of heat, and that's 
not good in the confined space of a laptop. Can you check the temperatures in the BIOS 
when you restart it? When you switched back to 2.4, did you try burning 5 or so CDs to see 
if it would lock up again?

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[gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups

[Kurt Bechstein]

Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups?  I've just only recently
noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row.  I would to be able
to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would
freeze.  I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4.  I'm just using
cdrecord from the command line as well.  I looked through
/var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't
find anything.  The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't
ssh into it or anything.

I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok
again.  This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop.



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