Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-28 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:15:39PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 October 2008 22:10:37 Momesso Andrea wrote:
> > > Why not just have them view the ftp site in the browser?
> > >
> > > User's aren't stupid and can cope with stuff - they will see a hierarchy
> > > of folders just like what they see in My Computer and might be asked for
> > > a username and password - just like in gmail.
> > >
> > > What's the problem with such an arrangement?
> >
> > Hmmm... And how do they upload?
> 
> Ahem. 
> 
> Allow me to introduce you to my good friend drag and his charming wife drop.

Nice to meet them :P

> 
> Browsers ARE ftp clients and know about ftp put and get just like they know 
> about http GET, PUT and POST. Caveat: Firefox needs a plugin and those 
> wonderful chaps who write IE7 helpfully removed this feature. Konqueror and 
> Nautilus JustDoIt(tm).
> 
Most of the users I'm serving don't even know about about Konqueror and
Nautilus... And if they have ever installed a firefox plugin, that is
the one called "Bring The Porn".

By they way I cannot cut away such a big part of the audience just
because they don't have a compliant browser.

> Your other option is that insanely convoluted method that phpBB forums use 
> for 
> file uploads. Aunt Tillie has never yet been observed to understand what the 
> forum wants her to do with that function.
> 

Egroupware has something similar to what I need, the just call it
FileManager:
"Managing files stored in the (VFS)? (virtual file system) based on
files, sql-db or webdav."

It gives the ability to upload files and stores in the database a lot of
useful metadata (date of upload, name of uploader, short description,
wether it is updated or not etc...).


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Re: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix

2008-10-28 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:43:38 -0400 James Homuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: October 28, 2008 10:35 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix
>
> Are there any issues with all these blocks that I need to fix for updates?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> [ebuild U ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.2 [1.40.9] USE="nls (-static%)" 4,263
> kB
> [ebuild  N] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2  USE="nls" 479 kB
> [blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
> [blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking
> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
> [blocks B ]  sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
> [blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is blocking
> sys-libs/ss-1.40.9, sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9)
>
> Total: 8 packages (7 upgrades, 1 new, 4 blocks), Size of downloads: 12,182
> kB
>
> E1fsprogs and com_err have apparently been merged into the new package
> portage wants to install for you. It's been suggested remove the two
> packages it wants to upgrade, then install that one.
>
> Hint: emerge --fetchonly sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs; emerge --unmerge
> e2fsprogs; emerge --unmerge com_err; emerge sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs *should*
> work. I say should, because I haven't actually tried it.

It is not quite that simple.  There were many posts today (28 oct) on
this.  I suggest reading them.  You might need to unmask mit-krb5 for
example.  There is a danger of rendering wget and hence emerge unusable
(but if you have already --fetchonly'ed the pkgs then emerge can install
them).

To repeat the main point:  Read *carefully* today's discussion.

good luck,
allan



[gentoo-user] WiFi-Radar + GTK Problem

2008-10-28 Thread Adam Boutcher
Here is the output fro when I run wifi-radar in the terinal


Gentoo-Laptop ~ $ sudo wifi-radar
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/sbin/wifi-radar", line 2094, in 
import gtk, gobject
ImportError: No module named gtk

I have the default config file fronm emerging, I also have the correct USE
flags.

Any ideas?

Cheers All!

-- 
Adam Boutcher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd uses fake MAC address

2008-10-28 Thread Iain Buchanan

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

My router has big problems assigning the correct IPs to Gentoo boxes. If
the NIC in the box has a MAC address of, say, 01:00:12:11:41:49:1e,
dhcpd reports something else to router: ff:42:54:59:20:00:1c:21:e0:42:c2

Why is this happening and how do I tell dhcpd not to mess with the MAC
address it reports to DHCP servers?


what happens when you ping from the erroneous box to the dhcp server, 
and sniff the actual traffic on the dhcp server to see what it sees. 
Then ping a different box and see what that sees, etc.



--
Iain Buchanan 

Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art.
-- Charles McCabe



Re: [gentoo-user] overlay eclass overrides eclass from PORTDIR: what is it?

2008-10-28 Thread Iain Buchanan

Mike Edenfield wrote:

b.n. wrote:


* Overlay eclass overrides eclass from PORTDIR:



Could anyone explain me what does it mean in practice?


The cause of this message is that one of the overlays you have
configured includes an eclass that already exists in base portage. This
happens when the overlay includes ebuilds that require enhanced behavior
from a current eclass.


In this case, I think it's because parts of the desktop-effects overlay 
are making it into the tree \o/ so you'll notice some duplication until 
this is finished.


Don't forget to layman -s ALL and this message might go away for this 
instance.


--
Iain Buchanan 

BOFH Excuse #23:

improperly oriented keyboard



RE: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix

2008-10-28 Thread James Homuth
 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 28, 2008 10:35 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix

Are there any issues with all these blocks that I need to fix for updates?

Thanks,
Mark

[ebuild U ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.2 [1.40.9] USE="nls (-static%)" 4,263
kB
[ebuild  N] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2  USE="nls" 479 kB
[blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
[blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking
sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
[blocks B ] 

[gentoo-user] blocks to fix

2008-10-28 Thread Mark Knecht
Are there any issues with all these blocks that I need to fix for updates?

Thanks,
Mark

[ebuild U ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.2 [1.40.9] USE="nls (-static%)" 4,263 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2  USE="nls" 479 kB
[blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
[blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
[blocks B ] 

Re: [gentoo-user] telnet program

2008-10-28 Thread Andrey Vul
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:40 PM, kcc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I want to install telnet client but couldn't find the emerge search
>
emerge search is useless.
Emerge eix, run update-eix, and do eix telnet


-- 
Andrey Vul

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?



Re: [gentoo-user] telnet program

2008-10-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:40:17 -0400, kcc wrote:

> I want to install telnet client but couldn't find the emerge search

net-misc/netkit-telnetd contains client and server.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

If a stealth bomber crashes in a forest, will it make a sound?


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[gentoo-user] telnet program

2008-10-28 Thread kcc
Hi all

I want to install telnet client but couldn't find the emerge search

how can I get it

Thank you


Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
>> I mean to really know C,
>> that is, read a rigorous book such as "C: A Reference Manual" and be
>> able to write portable programs with well-defined behavior. Speaking
>> of well-defined behavior, do you know what happens when you cast a
>> float to an int, and the float is too big to fit into the int?
>
> Did oyu try it yourself and see?
The point is that the behavior in this situation is "undefined". It
might do anything. Programming in C is different than programming in
Python.
In Python, you must know the basic behavior of a statement/functions.
If an error occurs, it raises an exception. If you do not catch the
exception, the program exits (and you can arrange for cleanup actions
to be performed before the program exits).
In C, you must know exactly what the statement/function does, and you
*must* handle the possibility of errors. If an error occurs and you do
not handle it, the program may crash, or it may go on and behave
erratically (such as deleting user files, or giving results subtly
wrong, or leaking memory, or...)
-- 
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds



Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 00:17:50 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
> * Before you ask "what, you don't know C?", 

A sysadmin doesn't need to know C. It helps to be able to read it of course.

A sysadmin ought to know grep, sed and awk rather well and be quite fluent in 
either perl or python, simply becuase those are tools they will use every day

> I mean to really know C, 
> that is, read a rigorous book such as "C: A Reference Manual" and be
> able to write portable programs with well-defined behavior. Speaking
> of well-defined behavior, do you know what happens when you cast a
> float to an int, and the float is too big to fit into the int?

Did oyu try it yourself and see?

> ** I know basic Python, but I think Python is nice enough for a person
> to *really* know it.

Agreed. It's a very nice language and has some nice side effects on your 
thinking. Like realising that the "new" keyword is an OOP language is always 
completely redundant. Or how many brain cycles you use parsing { and }.

Many people like to bitch about Python's enforcement of coding style. But we 
all agree that indentation is good. We disagree sometimes how exactly to do 
it. Python assumes that you start using the style you like and simply 
enforces that you carry on with it (which you were going to do anyway)

That appeals to me - cut to the chase, toss out the irrelevant crap and 
concentrate on what's left - the important stuff

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
>> awk? I assumed it was an obsolete language included for compatibility.
>> People should use Python, Perl, or sed's "s" command. Am I wrong?
>
> Yes. You are indeed wrong.
>
> Python and Perl are humungous interpreters that rival Java for size. Perl is
> in a class of it's own for syntax bloat.
>
> sed is neat but has nowhere near the functionality of awk.
>
> For example, I recently needed to scan a massive text file of 89000+ lines and
> count the number of character on each line and print it out with the line
> number. A bash script took 20 seconds to run. A C script took less than half
> a second. An awk script was marginally *quicker*. Granted, most of that time
> is spent writing to the console, but the text processing must then also be on
> par with C.
>
> awk is not obsolete, it's just been around for a while. It's no more obsoleted
> by perl, python and sed than ls is obsoleted by the existence of gui file
> managers
Nice. I might learn it in the future (there are some urgent duties I
must to before, and then I want to learn C* and Python**. Then I may
study awk)

* Before you ask "what, you don't know C?", I mean to really know C,
that is, read a rigorous book such as "C: A Reference Manual" and be
able to write portable programs with well-defined behavior. Speaking
of well-defined behavior, do you know what happens when you cast a
float to an int, and the float is too big to fit into the int?
** I know basic Python, but I think Python is nice enough for a person
to *really* know it.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:38:34 -0400 Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:09:00PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> [nomerge  ]  app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r1  USE="doc ipv6 -krb4 -tcl" 
>
> Use the ~ version of mit-krb5, any version above 1.6.3-r2 should be
> okay. 

This was key and enabled me to proceed and eventually succeed.

thanks,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:51:38 + Robert Bridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:21:28 -0700
> "Kevin O'Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Pielmeier
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Robert Bridge schrieb am 28.10.2008 18:21:
>> >> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:08:32 -0400
>> >> "James Homuth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> During an update attempt this afternoon, these little surprises
>> >>> were waiting for me. I took a look at the archives, and
>> >>> naturally, google, but all I found were lots of the same error,
>> >>> and no information on it/what's broken. Anyone else having this
>> >>> particular problem? The block errors are below.
>> >>>
>> >>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking
>> >>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>> >>>
>> >>> [blocks B ] > >>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>> >>>
>> >>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking
>> >>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>> >>>
>> >>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is blocking
>> >>> sys-libs/ss-1.40.9,
>> >>> sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9)
>> >>>
>> >>> This was during an emerge --update world.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> emerge -C e2fsprogs, ss, com_err && emerge -1 e2fsprogs
>> >>
>> >> e2fsprogs is being restructured, which is causing the problem.
>> >
>> > If you go the route of uninstalling things first, make sure that you
>> > have the sources prepared as wget might not work for some use flag
>> > combinations when you remove e2fsprogs, ss, com_err in advance.
>> 
>> Sadly, I did not read this until these were all unmerged, and wget is
>> truly broken.
>> 
>> Happily, I do run with buildpkg on all the time, but an this the
>> first time I've really needed them.  Getting back to a running system
>> was pretty easy.
>> 
>> However, this does not really solve the problem.  What's a safe way to
>> do this emerge?
>
> Sorry, my systems came through this a while ago, with the ~ portage, so
> I never really noticed.
>
> For a safe solution:
>
> $ emerge -uDf world # fetch the code
> $ emerge -C e2fsprogs, ss, com_err  # clear the blockers
> $ emerge -uD world  # fix the system.

This didn't work for me (but it does look safe).  I
needed to first add mit-krb5 to package.keywords

This was a real mess.
allan



RE: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread James Homuth
 

-Original Message-
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 28, 2008 5:58 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

On Tuesday 28 October 2008 22:18:05 Steven Susbauer wrote:
> >Careful with the unmerges.  Check the following for the gory details 
> >and possible work arounds:
> >
> >http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907
> >http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244511
> >
> >Such a mess.
>
> Yes it is. I was extremely tempted to post a thread about this issue 
> last night that explained the issue and the fix, as there weren't any 
> posts about it yet but they were sure to come as people broke wget. It 
> slipped my mind though. :-\

I've missed something here...

How does this circumstance break wget?

--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Removing com_err will break wget depending on use flags it was compiled
with. That's probably what you missed.




Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 22:18:05 Steven Susbauer wrote:
> >Careful with the unmerges.  Check the following for the gory details and
> >possible work arounds:
> >
> >http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907
> >http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244511
> >
> >Such a mess.
>
> Yes it is. I was extremely tempted to post a thread about this issue
> last night that explained the issue and the fix, as there weren't any
> posts about it yet but they were sure to come as people broke wget. It
> slipped my mind though. :-\

Please ignore my previous question about this. I see now why wget can break:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ldd `which wget` | grep -e com_err
libcom_err.so.2 => /lib/libcom_err.so.2 (0x7f75b34f1000)


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Jacques Montier
Steven Susbauer a gentiment tapote:
>> Sadly, I did not read this until these were all unmerged, and wget is
>> truly broken.
>>
>> Happily, I do run with buildpkg on all the time, but an this the
>> first time I've
>> really needed them.  Getting back to a running system was pretty easy.
>>
>> However, this does not really solve the problem.  What's a safe way to
>> do this emerge?
>>
>> ++ kevin
>>
> I mention the steps in the bug report:
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907#c70
>
> You may also choose to mask the affected packages, or remove kerberos
> support entirely.
>
>
>
>
Hi,

I encountered the same problem.
I unmerged sys-libs/ss, sys-libs/com_err and sys-fs/e2fsprogs.
Of course everything was broken and wget did not work anymore...
So i downloaded sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.40.9.tar.gz with Firefox browser to
/usr/portage/distfile and put >sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.40.9 in package.mask.
Then I could emerge sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.40.9.
Now sys-libs/ss-1.40.9, sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9 and
sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.40.9 are installed and everything works fine.

Cheers,

Jacques



Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 22:18:05 Steven Susbauer wrote:
> >Careful with the unmerges.  Check the following for the gory details and
> >possible work arounds:
> >
> >http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907
> >http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244511
> >
> >Such a mess.
>
> Yes it is. I was extremely tempted to post a thread about this issue
> last night that explained the issue and the fix, as there weren't any
> posts about it yet but they were sure to come as people broke wget. It
> slipped my mind though. :-\

I've missed something here...

How does this circumstance break wget?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 23:34:31 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
> > Run autounmask, it creates a new file in /etc/portage/package.unmask/
> >
> > Run a quick awk on it to get it into shape
> >
> > Move file to /etc/portage/package.mask/
> >
> > Problem solved in a neat elegant insightful way.
>
> awk? I assumed it was an obsolete language included for compatibility.
> People should use Python, Perl, or sed's "s" command. Am I wrong?

Yes. You are indeed wrong.

Python and Perl are humungous interpreters that rival Java for size. Perl is 
in a class of it's own for syntax bloat.

sed is neat but has nowhere near the functionality of awk.

For example, I recently needed to scan a massive text file of 89000+ lines and 
count the number of character on each line and print it out with the line 
number. A bash script took 20 seconds to run. A C script took less than half 
a second. An awk script was marginally *quicker*. Granted, most of that time 
is spent writing to the console, but the text processing must then also be on 
par with C.

awk is not obsolete, it's just been around for a while. It's no more obsoleted 
by perl, python and sed than ls is obsoleted by the existence of gui file 
managers

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Robert Bridge
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:21:28 -0700
"Kevin O'Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Pielmeier
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Robert Bridge schrieb am 28.10.2008 18:21:
> >> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:08:32 -0400
> >> "James Homuth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> During an update attempt this afternoon, these little surprises
> >>> were waiting for me. I took a look at the archives, and
> >>> naturally, google, but all I found were lots of the same error,
> >>> and no information on it/what's broken. Anyone else having this
> >>> particular problem? The block errors are below.
> >>>
> >>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking
> >>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
> >>>
> >>> [blocks B ]  >>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
> >>>
> >>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking
> >>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
> >>>
> >>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is blocking
> >>> sys-libs/ss-1.40.9,
> >>> sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9)
> >>>
> >>> This was during an emerge --update world.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> emerge -C e2fsprogs, ss, com_err && emerge -1 e2fsprogs
> >>
> >> e2fsprogs is being restructured, which is causing the problem.
> >
> > If you go the route of uninstalling things first, make sure that you
> > have the sources prepared as wget might not work for some use flag
> > combinations when you remove e2fsprogs, ss, com_err in advance.
> 
> Sadly, I did not read this until these were all unmerged, and wget is
> truly broken.
> 
> Happily, I do run with buildpkg on all the time, but an this the
> first time I've really needed them.  Getting back to a running system
> was pretty easy.
> 
> However, this does not really solve the problem.  What's a safe way to
> do this emerge?

Sorry, my systems came through this a while ago, with the ~ portage, so
I never really noticed.

For a safe solution:

$ emerge -uDf world # fetch the code
$ emerge -C e2fsprogs, ss, com_err  # clear the blockers
$ emerge -uD world  # fix the system.

Sorry again,
Rob.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how to downgrade to old fetching indicator?

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 23:19:22 Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> > It seems like perhaps FETCHCOMMAND is no longer the applicable setting in
> > make.conf...
>
> It is, but with a twist. Read the wget manpage again, and you'll find:
>
>   [..] when the output is not a TTY, the "dot" progress will be favored
>        over "bar". [..]

When I read the other poster's reply, my first thought was that this is the 
underlying reason - portage traditionally made extensive use of tee in 
dealing with it's output and who knows what that output get connected to.

But this seems to not be the case:

ps axf of the running emerge, which is a regular pts:

13744 pts/1SN+0:12  |   |   
\_ /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/emerge -f mozilla-sunbird
13793 pts/1SN+0:02  |   |   
\_ /usr/bin/python -O /usr/lib64/portage/bin/ebuild 
/var/portage/app-office/mozilla-sunbird/mozilla-sunbird-0.9.ebuild 
fetch
13806 pts/1SN+0:00  |   |   \_ wget -t 
5 --passive-ftp --progress=bar 
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/gentoo.org/distfiles/lightning-sunbird-0.9-source.tar.bz2
 -P /var/distfiles


ps ax of the same wget run from a konsole:

13869 pts/1S+ 0:00 wget -t 5 --passive-ftp --progress=bar 
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/gentoo.org/distfiles/lightning-sunbird-0.9-source.tar.bz2
 -P /var/distfiles

Looks the same to me

> So putting --progress=bar:force into FETCHCOMMAND/RESUMECOMMAND does the
> trick. Maybe this was done for the --jobs option or a change in background
> process logging to a file? No idea but the trick works for me.

Sounds plausible. I can't quite see how it was implemented though

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Robert Bridge
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:34:31 -0200
"Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Run autounmask, it creates a new file
> > in /etc/portage/package.unmask/
> >
> > Run a quick awk on it to get it into shape
> >
> > Move file to /etc/portage/package.mask/
> >
> > Problem solved in a neat elegant insightful way.
> 
> awk? I assumed it was an obsolete language included for compatibility.
> People should use Python, Perl, or sed's "s" command. Am I wrong?

Yes. You are wrong.

Awk is a useful tool, if you know it. It's just less people bother
learning it these days.


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Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
> Run autounmask, it creates a new file in /etc/portage/package.unmask/
>
> Run a quick awk on it to get it into shape
>
> Move file to /etc/portage/package.mask/
>
> Problem solved in a neat elegant insightful way.

awk? I assumed it was an obsolete language included for compatibility.
People should use Python, Perl, or sed's "s" command. Am I wrong?

-- 
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds



Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 22:29:39 Andrey Vul wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Ricardo Saffi Marques
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Andrey Vul wrote:
> >> That looks like it'll only work in paludis. You're going to have to
> >> use shell scripting and output a BFList to package.keywords .
> >> Try $eix -C kde-base --only-names | sed -r 's/$/ -~amd64/' | sudo tee
> >> -a /etc/portage/package.keywords
> >
> > Don't you guys like (or maybe even know) "autounmask"?
>
> You're giving the exact opposite of what was requested in the question.
> The relevant part of the question was "Is it possible to *revoke* [the
> ~amd64 for kde]"
>
> If it was *unmasking*, then yes, I would have mentioned autounmask.
> But the OP asked about revoking (unmasks), not unmasking.
> If you want to make an automask script that does the work for you, go
> ahead.

Run autounmask, it creates a new file in /etc/portage/package.unmask/

Run a quick awk on it to get it into shape

Move file to /etc/portage/package.mask/

Problem solved in a neat elegant insightful way.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] how to downgrade to old fetching indicator?

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 23:09:48 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:11:05 Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> How to "downgrade" to old fetching indicator (single-line instead of
> >> multiple lines)?
> >
> > This has been bugging me for a long time as well, I'd really liek to know
> > what's going on.
> >
> > 'ps ax' while emerge is downloading shows the full wget command used -
> > it's FETCHCOMMAND from make.conf. The identical command on the command
> > line produces the old output. Adding the wget option --progress=bar to
> > FETCHCOMMAND changes nothing, but it is the correct option to influence
> > this behaviour.
> >
> > It seems like perhaps FETCHCOMMAND is no longer the applicable setting in
> > make.conf...
>
> Perhaps you did not read wget's info page ?
> Please read the following excerpt to the end

OK, that explains it. I read the first three paragraphs, saw "Legal indicators 
are 'dot' and 'bar'" and figured there were two options - verbose with lots 
of dots or concise with 50 dashes. That'll teach me to assume :-)

[man wget's is getting like bash, screen, nmap and mplayer's man pages...]

But there's something else at work here - this change happened on my mchine 
within the last 6 weeks. The last emerge of wget here was Aug 17. So what 
changed with portage?



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: how to downgrade to old fetching indicator?

2008-10-28 Thread Holger Hoffstaette
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:52:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> On Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:11:05 Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> How to "downgrade" to old fetching indicator (single-line instead of
>> multiple lines)?
> 
> This has been bugging me for a long time as well, I'd really liek to know
> what's going on.

Despair not! Read on! :)
 
> 'ps ax' while emerge is downloading shows the full wget command used -
> it's FETCHCOMMAND from make.conf. The identical command on the command
> line produces the old output. Adding the wget option --progress=bar to
> FETCHCOMMAND changes nothing, but it is the correct option to influence
> this behaviour.

Almost there!

> It seems like perhaps FETCHCOMMAND is no longer the applicable setting in
> make.conf...

It is, but with a twist. Read the wget manpage again, and you'll find:

  [..] when the output is not a TTY, the "dot" progress will be favored
   over "bar". [..]

So putting --progress=bar:force into FETCHCOMMAND/RESUMECOMMAND does the
trick. Maybe this was done for the --jobs option or a change in background
process logging to a file? No idea but the trick works for me.

Holger





Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 22:10:37 Momesso Andrea wrote:
> > Why not just have them view the ftp site in the browser?
> >
> > User's aren't stupid and can cope with stuff - they will see a hierarchy
> > of folders just like what they see in My Computer and might be asked for
> > a username and password - just like in gmail.
> >
> > What's the problem with such an arrangement?
>
> Hmmm... And how do they upload?

Ahem. 

Allow me to introduce you to my good friend drag and his charming wife drop.

Browsers ARE ftp clients and know about ftp put and get just like they know 
about http GET, PUT and POST. Caveat: Firefox needs a plugin and those 
wonderful chaps who write IE7 helpfully removed this feature. Konqueror and 
Nautilus JustDoIt(tm).

Your other option is that insanely convoluted method that phpBB forums use for 
file uploads. Aunt Tillie has never yet been observed to understand what the 
forum wants her to do with that function.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] how to downgrade to old fetching indicator?

2008-10-28 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
> On Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:11:05 Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> How to "downgrade" to old fetching indicator (single-line instead of
>> multiple lines)?
>
> This has been bugging me for a long time as well, I'd really liek to know
> what's going on.
>
> 'ps ax' while emerge is downloading shows the full wget command used - it's
> FETCHCOMMAND from make.conf. The identical command on the command line
> produces the old output. Adding the wget option --progress=bar to
> FETCHCOMMAND changes nothing, but it is the correct option to influence this
> behaviour.
>
> It seems like perhaps FETCHCOMMAND is no longer the applicable setting in
> make.conf...

Perhaps you did not read wget's info page ?
Please read the following excerpt to the end

`--progress=TYPE'
 Select the type of the progress indicator you wish to use.  Legal
 indicators are "dot" and "bar".

 The "bar" indicator is used by default.  It draws an ASCII progress
 bar graphics (a.k.a "thermometer" display) indicating the status of
 retrieval.  If the output is not a TTY, the "dot" bar will be used
 by default.

 Use `--progress=dot' to switch to the "dot" display.  It traces
 the retrieval by printing dots on the screen, each dot
 representing a fixed amount of downloaded data.

 When using the dotted retrieval, you may also set the "style" by
 specifying the type as `dot:STYLE'.  Different styles assign
 different meaning to one dot.  With the `default' style each dot
 represents 1K, there are ten dots in a cluster and 50 dots in a
 line.  The `binary' style has a more "computer"-like
 orientation--8K dots, 16-dots clusters and 48 dots per line (which
 makes for 384K lines).  The `mega' style is suitable for
 downloading very large files--each dot represents 64K retrieved,
 there are eight dots in a cluster, and 48 dots on each line (so
 each line contains 3M).

 Note that you can set the default style using the `progress'
 command in `.wgetrc'.  That setting may be overridden from the
 command line.  The exception is that, when the output is not a
 TTY, the "dot" progress will be favored over "bar".  To force the
 bar output, use `--progress=bar:force'.

So you can try --progress=bar:force

I personally like --progress=dot. And when I download huge files like CD images,
I use wget -b --limit-rate= --progress=dot:mega
'http://example.com/foo.tar.lzma'

-- 
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds



Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

2008-10-28 Thread Andrey Vul
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
>> ALSA is working.
>> Hardware is working.
>> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> To be really sure ALSA is working, I suggest you try aplay. Notice
> that aplay is minimalistic, and does not support formats like vorbis
> (AFAIK). Feed a wav to it. Example:
> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav
> Both aplay and /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav come from
> media-sound/alsa-utils
>

Oh.
SPDIF output (IEC958) was unmuted and all the output got routed there.
Muted SPDIF and everything works now.



-- 
Andrey Vul

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Re: [gentoo-user] gimp-9999 failed to compile

2008-10-28 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 12:21 +0700, Nickolay Hodyunya wrote:
>> Yes, but it seems 0.0.21 is not even released, because there is no
>> files to fetch
>> from ftp.gimp.org for this version.
>
> Well, sometimes that happens when you build from trunk (and why it's
> usually discouraged).

That is not the only reason it is usually discouraged... the main
reason is that the code itself is often broken.
By the way, there is a contradiction among a subset of the Gentoo
users. They spend a lot of time optimizing their system
(sometimes even being irresponsible, using absurd CFLAGS), but at the
same time they install the very latest software, while 95% of software
gets slower with each release. Using the most recent, untested
software often leads to bugs and very often leads to decreased
performance.
What a rational person would do (in my opinion) is
1) A generally stable (no ~arch) system.
2) A few ~arch packages, where the ~arch versions really have important
features, and they outweigh the unreliability. One example would be
multimedia software, and perhaps Firefox (3.0 is still ~x86).
3) Zero or very few hardmasked or unkeyworded packages, including cvs
software. They are hardmasked for a reason.

Of course, some people do have a rational reason to download software
from cvs, such as developers of that particular software.
--
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds



Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

2008-10-28 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
> ALSA is working.
> Hardware is working.
> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
>
> Any suggestions?

To be really sure ALSA is working, I suggest you try aplay. Notice
that aplay is minimalistic, and does not support formats like vorbis
(AFAIK). Feed a wav to it. Example:
aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav
Both aplay and /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav come from
media-sound/alsa-utils

You have a lot of verbosity with aplay -v

Also notice that many mixer controls have not only a volume bar, but
also a  setting of muted or unmuted. A mixer control may show its bar
at 100% but be muted, which could be confusing if you are not familiar
with alsamixer. In my case least, the relevant mixer controls for a
wav file are "Master" and "PCM". Both are stereo, both have volume
bars, but only "PCM" has a mute/unmute setting.
I don't know if this is your case, this wasn't clear from your
screenshot. Can you get a png screenshot and send directly to my
email?. Of course, it would be better if the alsamixer screen was
maximized when you take the screenshot.

Also, to test with another OS could be useful. Do you have any LiveCD?
-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Eray Aslan
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:09:00PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> I have unmerged all the files involved in the blockage
> 
> allan Mail # emerge --ask --unmerge e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-libs ss com_err
> 
> >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
> 
> --- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs' to unmerge.
> 
> --- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs-libs' to unmerge.
> 
> --- Couldn't find 'ss' to unmerge.
> 
> --- Couldn't find 'com_err' to unmerge.
> 
> >>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
> 
> But when I do an emerge world I still get the blockage
> (I previously tried emerge -1 e2fsprogs, which brought in
> e2fsprogs-libs, but still gave the blockage shown below).

Careful with the unmerges.  Check the following for the gory details and
possible work arounds:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244511

Such a mess.

-- 
Eray



Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Andrey Vul
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Ricardo Saffi Marques
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrey Vul wrote:
>> That looks like it'll only work in paludis. You're going to have to
>> use shell scripting and output a BFList to package.keywords .
>> Try $eix -C kde-base --only-names | sed -r 's/$/ -~amd64/' | sudo tee
>> -a /etc/portage/package.keywords
>
> Don't you guys like (or maybe even know) "autounmask"?
You're giving the exact opposite of what was requested in the question.
The relevant part of the question was "Is it possible to *revoke* [the
~amd64 for kde]"

If it was *unmasking*, then yes, I would have mentioned autounmask.
But the OP asked about revoking (unmasks), not unmasking.
If you want to make an automask script that does the work for you, go ahead.

-- 
Andrey Vul

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?



Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Steven Susbauer

Sadly, I did not read this until these were all unmerged, and wget is
truly broken.

Happily, I do run with buildpkg on all the time, but an this the first time 
I've

really needed them.  Getting back to a running system was pretty easy.

However, this does not really solve the problem.  What's a safe way to
do this emerge?

++ kevin


I mention the steps in the bug report:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907#c70

You may also choose to mask the affected packages, or remove kerberos
support entirely.





Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Kevin O'Gorman schrieb am 28.10.2008 21:21:
> Sadly, I did not read this until these were all unmerged, and wget is
> truly broken.
> 
> Happily, I do run with buildpkg on all the time, but an this the first time 
> I've
> really needed them.  Getting back to a running system was pretty easy.
> 
> However, this does not really solve the problem.  What's a safe way to
> do this emerge?

>=sys-apps/portage-2.1.5 but it is not stable at the moment too.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Daniel Pielmeier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Bridge schrieb am 28.10.2008 18:21:
>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:08:32 -0400
>> "James Homuth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> During an update attempt this afternoon, these little surprises were
>>> waiting for me. I took a look at the archives, and naturally, google,
>>> but all I found were lots of the same error, and no information on
>>> it/what's broken. Anyone else having this particular problem? The
>>> block errors are below.
>>>
>>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking
>>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>>>
>>> [blocks B ] >> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>>>
>>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking
>>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>>>
>>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is blocking
>>> sys-libs/ss-1.40.9,
>>> sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9)
>>>
>>> This was during an emerge --update world.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> emerge -C e2fsprogs, ss, com_err && emerge -1 e2fsprogs
>>
>> e2fsprogs is being restructured, which is causing the problem.
>
> If you go the route of uninstalling things first, make sure that you
> have the sources prepared as wget might not work for some use flag
> combinations when you remove e2fsprogs, ss, com_err in advance.

Sadly, I did not read this until these were all unmerged, and wget is
truly broken.

Happily, I do run with buildpkg on all the time, but an this the first time I've
really needed them.  Getting back to a running system was pretty easy.

However, this does not really solve the problem.  What's a safe way to
do this emerge?

++ kevin


-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD



Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Steven Susbauer

Eray Aslan wrote:

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:09:00PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

I have unmerged all the files involved in the blockage

allan Mail # emerge --ask --unmerge e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-libs ss 
com_err


>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

--- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs' to unmerge.

--- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs-libs' to unmerge.

--- Couldn't find 'ss' to unmerge.

--- Couldn't find 'com_err' to unmerge.

>>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge

But when I do an emerge world I still get the blockage
(I previously tried emerge -1 e2fsprogs, which brought in
e2fsprogs-libs, but still gave the blockage shown below).


Careful with the unmerges.  Check the following for the gory details and
possible work arounds:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234907
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244511

Such a mess.


Yes it is. I was extremely tempted to post a thread about this issue
last night that explained the issue and the fix, as there weren't any
posts about it yet but they were sure to come as people broke wget. It
slipped my mind though. :-\





Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Chris Walters
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Allan Gottlieb wrote:

> I have obtained the sources to e2fsprogs, e2fsprogs-libs, ss, com_error
> via emerge --fetchonly.
> Am I correct in believing that emerge --unmerge will NOT remove the
> sources.
> 
> thanks,
> allan

You are correct that emerge --unmerge will not remove the sources.  There are
some 'clean-up' utilities that will, but emerge will not.

I agree with the people suggesting the quickpkg to backup the existing
packages.  The emerge --fetchonly command is the way to go here, since
depending on the USE flags you used to build wget, there may be a deep
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Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-28 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 08:38:33PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 October 2008 19:38:09 Momesso Andrea wrote:
> > I'm looking for a webapp to be installed in a lighttpd + mysql + php
> > server that allows users to upload theyr own files and download shared
> > files.
> >
> > Possibly I need something that allows different levels of authorizations
> > over directories, for example a root that is world readable, a folder
> > readable from registered users and writable only from admins, user
> > folders etc.
> >
> > Can anybody suggest me an application (possibly opensource) that can do the
> > job?
> >
> > P.S. The end user skills are limited to opening a web browser (this is
> > why I can't do it with and ftp server and virtual users).
> 
> Why not just have them view the ftp site in the browser?
> 
> User's aren't stupid and can cope with stuff - they will see a hierarchy of 
> folders just like what they see in My Computer and might be asked for a 
> username and password - just like in gmail.
> 
> What's the problem with such an arrangement?
> 
Hmmm... And how do they upload? 

I was looking for something with a "select file" button and a "upload
now" button.

> -- 
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Willie Wong schrieb am 28.10.2008 20:38:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:09:00PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> [nomerge  ]  app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r1  USE="doc ipv6 -krb4 -tcl" 
> 
> Use the ~ version of mit-krb5, any version above 1.6.3-r2 should be
> okay. 
> 
> Also, please file a bug/stablization request about this against
> mit-krb5. 
> 
> W

It is already there http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241670. The
e2fsprogs bug I mentioned before also depends on this one.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Allan Gottlieb schrieb am 28.10.2008 20:09:
> [nomerge  ]  app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r1  USE="doc ipv6 -krb4 -tcl" 
> [ebuild  N]   sys-libs/ss-1.40.9  USE="nls" 0 kB 
> [ebuild  N]sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9  USE="nls" 0 kB 

Put =app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r4 into package.keywords and try again.



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Re: [gentoo-user] how to downgrade to old fetching indicator?

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:11:05 Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> Hi!
>
> How to "downgrade" to old fetching indicator (single-line instead of
> multiple lines)?

This has been bugging me for a long time as well, I'd really liek to know 
what's going on.

'ps ax' while emerge is downloading shows the full wget command used - it's 
FETCHCOMMAND from make.conf. The identical command on the command line 
produces the old output. Adding the wget option --progress=bar to 
FETCHCOMMAND changes nothing, but it is the correct option to influence this 
behaviour.

It seems like perhaps FETCHCOMMAND is no longer the applicable setting in 
make.conf...

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:09:00PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> [nomerge  ]  app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r1  USE="doc ipv6 -krb4 -tcl" 

Use the ~ version of mit-krb5, any version above 1.6.3-r2 should be
okay. 

Also, please file a bug/stablization request about this against
mit-krb5. 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
408 Fine Hall,  Department of Mathematics,  Princeton University,  Princeton
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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 21:09:00 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> I have unmerged all the files involved in the blockage
>
> allan Mail # emerge --ask --unmerge e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-libs ss com_err
>
> >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
>
> --- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs' to unmerge.
>
> --- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs-libs' to unmerge.
>
> --- Couldn't find 'ss' to unmerge.
>
> --- Couldn't find 'com_err' to unmerge.

If you look at the emerge output below, you will see that all 4 are proceeded 
by [ebuild  N   ] which means they are not installed at all.

Botto line is that e2fsprogs-libs abd ss|com_err cannot co-exist on the same 
system, as e2fsprogs-libs implements what they do. Look at the *DEPEND in the 
ebuild to see what e2fsprogs-libs blocks.

I have a ~arch system, what I did way back when was to simply put ss and 
com_err in package.mask, and everything worked. I also have e2fsprogs and 
mit-krb5 installed, just like you do.


>
> >>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
>
> But when I do an emerge world I still get the blockage
> (I previously tried emerge -1 e2fsprogs, which brought in
> e2fsprogs-libs, but still gave the blockage shown below).
>
> This command was issued right after the testing unmerge above
>
> allan Mail # emerge --ask --verbose --deep --tree --newuse --update
> world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>
> Calculating world dependencies... done!
> [nomerge  ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.3  USE="cdr cups dvdr esd ldap
> -accessibility -mono" [nomerge  ]  app-text/evince-2.22.2-r1  USE="dbus
> doc gnome gnome-keyring tiff -debug -djvu -dvi -t1lib" [ebuild U ]  
> app-text/libspectre-0.2.1 [0.2.0] USE="doc -debug -test" 381 kB [nomerge   
>   ] app-text/libspectre-0.2.1 [0.2.0] USE="doc -debug -test" [nomerge 
> ]  app-doc/doxygen-1.5.4  USE="doc -debug -latex -nodot -qt3" [ebuild U
> ]   media-gfx/graphviz-2.20.3 [2.20.2] USE="cairo doc gnome gtk java jpeg
> nls perl png python -cgraph -examples -ruby -tcl" 13,068 kB [nomerge  ]
> x11-wm/sawfish-1.3.3  USE="esd gnome nls -audiofile -pango" [nomerge  ]
>  x11-libs/rep-gtk-0.18-r3  USE="gnome"
> [ebuild U ]   gnome-base/libbonobo-2.24.0 [2.22.0] USE="doc -debug"
> 1,422 kB [ebuild U ] net-fs/nfs-utils-1.1.3 [1.1.0-r1] USE="kerberos
> tcpd -nonfsv4" 793 kB [nomerge  ]  app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r1 
> USE="doc ipv6 -krb4 -tcl" [ebuild  N]   sys-libs/ss-1.40.9  USE="nls" 0
> kB
> [ebuild  N]sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9  USE="nls" 0 kB
> [nomerge  ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.3  USE="cdr cups dvdr esd ldap
> -accessibility -mono" [nomerge  ]  gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.20.0.1 
> USE="hal ipv6 -debug" [ebuild  N]   sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.2  USE="nls"
> 0 kB
> [ebuild  N]sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2  USE="nls" 0 kB
> [nomerge  ] app-text/texlive-2007-r3  USE="X doc png xml -cjk
> -context -cyrillic -extra -games -graphics -humanities -jadetex -music
> -omega -pstricks -publishers -science -tex4ht -xetex" LINGUAS="-af -ar -bg
> -bn -bo -cs -cy -da -de -el -en -en_GB -eo -es -et -fi -fr -he -hi -hr -hsb
> -hu -hy -id -is -it -ja -ko -la -ml -mn -nl -no -pl -pt -ro -ru -sk -sl -sr
> -sv -ta -th -tr -uk -vi -zh" [ebuild U ]  dev-tex/feynmf-1.08-r3
> [1.08-r2] USE="doc" 0 kB [blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is
> blocking sys-libs/ss-1.40.9, sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9) [blocks B ]
> sys-libs/com_err (is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2) [blocks B
> ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>
> Total: 9 packages (5 upgrades, 4 new, 3 blocks), Size of downloads:
> 15,663 kB
>
> !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> installed !!!at the same time on the same system.
>
> For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the
> following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is
> irrelevant):
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
>
> allan Mail #
>
> Is there some order that I must merge them back in?
>
> allan



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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Allan Gottlieb schrieb am 28.10.2008 18:40:
> 
> I have obtained the sources to e2fsprogs, e2fsprogs-libs, ss, com_error
> via emerge --fetchonly.
> Am I correct in believing that emerge --unmerge will NOT remove the
> sources.

No the sources should not get removed unless you use tools like eclean.
To be save quickpkg the packages you want to remove before you actually
remove them. So in case of failure you can get them back.



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[gentoo-user] how to downgrade to old fetching indicator?

2008-10-28 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Hi!

How to "downgrade" to old fetching indicator (single-line instead of multiple 
lines)?



Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Allan Gottlieb
I have unmerged all the files involved in the blockage

allan Mail # emerge --ask --unmerge e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-libs ss com_err

>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

--- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs' to unmerge.

--- Couldn't find 'e2fsprogs-libs' to unmerge.

--- Couldn't find 'ss' to unmerge.

--- Couldn't find 'com_err' to unmerge.

>>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge

But when I do an emerge world I still get the blockage
(I previously tried emerge -1 e2fsprogs, which brought in
e2fsprogs-libs, but still gave the blockage shown below).

This command was issued right after the testing unmerge above

allan Mail # emerge --ask --verbose --deep --tree --newuse --update world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[nomerge  ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.3  USE="cdr cups dvdr esd ldap 
-accessibility -mono" 
[nomerge  ]  app-text/evince-2.22.2-r1  USE="dbus doc gnome 
gnome-keyring tiff -debug -djvu -dvi -t1lib" 
[ebuild U ]   app-text/libspectre-0.2.1 [0.2.0] USE="doc -debug -test" 
381 kB 
[nomerge  ] app-text/libspectre-0.2.1 [0.2.0] USE="doc -debug -test" 
[nomerge  ]  app-doc/doxygen-1.5.4  USE="doc -debug -latex -nodot -qt3" 
[ebuild U ]   media-gfx/graphviz-2.20.3 [2.20.2] USE="cairo doc gnome 
gtk java jpeg nls perl png python -cgraph -examples -ruby -tcl" 13,068 kB 
[nomerge  ] x11-wm/sawfish-1.3.3  USE="esd gnome nls -audiofile -pango" 
[nomerge  ]  x11-libs/rep-gtk-0.18-r3  USE="gnome" 
[ebuild U ]   gnome-base/libbonobo-2.24.0 [2.22.0] USE="doc -debug" 
1,422 kB 
[ebuild U ] net-fs/nfs-utils-1.1.3 [1.1.0-r1] USE="kerberos tcpd 
-nonfsv4" 793 kB 
[nomerge  ]  app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r1  USE="doc ipv6 -krb4 -tcl" 
[ebuild  N]   sys-libs/ss-1.40.9  USE="nls" 0 kB 
[ebuild  N]sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9  USE="nls" 0 kB 
[nomerge  ] gnome-base/gnome-2.22.3  USE="cdr cups dvdr esd ldap 
-accessibility -mono" 
[nomerge  ]  gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.20.0.1  USE="hal ipv6 -debug" 
[ebuild  N]   sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.2  USE="nls" 0 kB 
[ebuild  N]sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2  USE="nls" 0 kB 
[nomerge  ] app-text/texlive-2007-r3  USE="X doc png xml -cjk -context 
-cyrillic -extra -games -graphics -humanities -jadetex -music -omega -pstricks 
-publishers -science -tex4ht -xetex" LINGUAS="-af -ar -bg -bn -bo -cs -cy -da 
-de -el -en -en_GB -eo -es -et -fi -fr -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -hy -id -is -it -ja 
-ko -la -ml -mn -nl -no -pl -pt -ro -ru -sk -sl -sr -sv -ta -th -tr -uk -vi 
-zh" 
[ebuild U ]  dev-tex/feynmf-1.08-r3 [1.08-r2] USE="doc" 0 kB 
[blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is blocking sys-libs/ss-1.40.9, 
sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9)
[blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking 
sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
[blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)

Total: 9 packages (5 upgrades, 4 new, 3 blocks), Size of downloads: 15,663 
kB

!!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be 
installed
!!!at the same time on the same system.

For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked

allan Mail # 

Is there some order that I must merge them back in?

allan




Re: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble

2008-10-28 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 October 2008 19:13:19 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:58:16 +0200 Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 28 October 2008 18:46:11 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> >> At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:26:07 -0700 Brian Wince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> >> >   -Original Message-
>> >> >   From: Allan Gottlieb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:09 AM
>> >> >   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> >> >   Subject: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble
>> >> >
>> >> >   Yesterday's update to ssh (openssh-5.1_p1-r1) is giving me trouble.
>> >
>> > I take it you did the obvious and restarted sshd after the upgrade?
>>
>> Yes.  Indeed it was the next day that I encountered the failure.
>> Brian's fix was what I needed.  I must have changed the config last time
>> and not left my usual
>> # AJG:
>> marker to alert me.  I should have noticed the change to X11Forwarding
>> when I did etc-update, but unfortunately did not.
>
> Yup, it's those pesky config files and the need to put stuff in them :-)
>
> Config files really should be more intelligent and know to do what you want
> not what you say

They also should be almost completely unreadable and stored in one big
conglomerated mass from everything on the system. Just like that
*other* OS!

(I can't ever seem to break out of my lurking on a serious note.)

-- 
Poison [BLX]
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Re: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 19:13:19 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:58:16 +0200 Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 October 2008 18:46:11 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> >> At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:26:07 -0700 Brian Wince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >> >   -Original Message-
> >> >   From: Allan Gottlieb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:09 AM
> >> >   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> >> >   Subject: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble
> >> >
> >> >   Yesterday's update to ssh (openssh-5.1_p1-r1) is giving me trouble.
> >
> > I take it you did the obvious and restarted sshd after the upgrade?
>
> Yes.  Indeed it was the next day that I encountered the failure.
> Brian's fix was what I needed.  I must have changed the config last time
> and not left my usual
> # AJG:
> marker to alert me.  I should have noticed the change to X11Forwarding
> when I did etc-update, but unfortunately did not.

Yup, it's those pesky config files and the need to put stuff in them :-)

Config files really should be more intelligent and know to do what you want 
not what you say



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 19:38:09 Momesso Andrea wrote:
> I'm looking for a webapp to be installed in a lighttpd + mysql + php
> server that allows users to upload theyr own files and download shared
> files.
>
> Possibly I need something that allows different levels of authorizations
> over directories, for example a root that is world readable, a folder
> readable from registered users and writable only from admins, user
> folders etc.
>
> Can anybody suggest me an application (possibly opensource) that can do the
> job?
>
> P.S. The end user skills are limited to opening a web browser (this is
> why I can't do it with and ftp server and virtual users).

Why not just have them view the ftp site in the browser?

User's aren't stupid and can cope with stuff - they will see a hierarchy of 
folders just like what they see in My Computer and might be asked for a 
username and password - just like in gmail.

What's the problem with such an arrangement?

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:39:14 -0200, Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote:

> Don't you guys like (or maybe even know) "autounmask"?

Yes, but it unmasks, not masks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:27:24 +0100 Daniel Pielmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Robert Bridge schrieb am 28.10.2008 18:21:
>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:08:32 -0400
>> "James Homuth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> During an update attempt this afternoon, these little surprises were
>>> waiting for me. I took a look at the archives, and naturally, google,
>>> but all I found were lots of the same error, and no information on
>>> it/what's broken. Anyone else having this particular problem? The
>>> block errors are below.
>>>
>>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking
>>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>>>
>>> [blocks B ] >> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>>>
>>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking
>>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>>>
>>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is blocking
>>> sys-libs/ss-1.40.9,
>>> sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9)   
>>>
>>> This was during an emerge --update world.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> emerge -C e2fsprogs, ss, com_err && emerge -1 e2fsprogs 
>> 
>> e2fsprogs is being restructured, which is causing the problem.
>
> If you go the route of uninstalling things first, make sure that you
> have the sources prepared as wget might not work for some use flag
> combinations when you remove e2fsprogs, ss, com_err in advance.

I have obtained the sources to e2fsprogs, e2fsprogs-libs, ss, com_error
via emerge --fetchonly.
Am I correct in believing that emerge --unmerge will NOT remove the
sources.

thanks,
allan



[gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-28 Thread Momesso Andrea
I'm looking for a webapp to be installed in a lighttpd + mysql + php
server that allows users to upload theyr own files and download shared
files.

Possibly I need something that allows different levels of authorizations
over directories, for example a root that is world readable, a folder
readable from registered users and writable only from admins, user
folders etc.

Can anybody suggest me an application (possibly opensource) that can do the job?

P.S. The end user skills are limited to opening a web browser (this is
why I can't do it with and ftp server and virtual users).


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Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
Andrey Vul wrote:
> That looks like it'll only work in paludis. You're going to have to
> use shell scripting and output a BFList to package.keywords .
> Try $eix -C kde-base --only-names | sed -r 's/$/ -~amd64/' | sudo tee
> -a /etc/portage/package.keywords

Don't you guys like (or maybe even know) "autounmask"?

[15:34:56] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix autounmask
* app-portage/autounmask
 Available versions:  0.15 0.21
 Homepage:http://download.mpsna.de/opensource/autounmask/
 Description: autounmask - Unmasking packages the easy way

Best regards,

Saffi

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Institute of Computing - IC
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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244511



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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Robert Bridge schrieb am 28.10.2008 18:21:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:08:32 -0400
> "James Homuth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> During an update attempt this afternoon, these little surprises were
>> waiting for me. I took a look at the archives, and naturally, google,
>> but all I found were lots of the same error, and no information on
>> it/what's broken. Anyone else having this particular problem? The
>> block errors are below.
>>
>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking
>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>>
>> [blocks B ] > sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>>
>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking
>> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>>
>> [blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is blocking
>> sys-libs/ss-1.40.9,
>> sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9)   
>>
>> This was during an emerge --update world.
>>
>>
> 
> emerge -C e2fsprogs, ss, com_err && emerge -1 e2fsprogs 
> 
> e2fsprogs is being restructured, which is causing the problem.

If you go the route of uninstalling things first, make sure that you
have the sources prepared as wget might not work for some use flag
combinations when you remove e2fsprogs, ss, com_err in advance.



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Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Andrey Vul
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Helmut Jarausch
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64"
>
> in /etc/make.conf
> and I want to keep it.
>
> Is it possible to revoke this for whole bunch
> of packages like
> kde-base/*
>
> I've tried the following line in /etc/portage/package.keywords
>
> kde-base/* -~amd64
>
> but it doesn't help.
>
That looks like it'll only work in paludis. You're going to have to
use shell scripting and output a BFList to package.keywords .
Try $eix -C kde-base --only-names | sed -r 's/$/ -~amd64/' | sudo tee
-a /etc/portage/package.keywords



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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?



Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:19:58 -0400, Andrey Vul wrote:

> Unmerge the old e2fsprogs and emerge the new programs and libs. IIRC
> this is not new. I had this happen a few months ago.

It happened to be today on a stable box, so these versions must have just
been marked stable. Fortunately, that (mainly) stable box was running the
latest portage, which resolves the blocks automatically.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Robert Bridge
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:08:32 -0400
"James Homuth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> During an update attempt this afternoon, these little surprises were
> waiting for me. I took a look at the archives, and naturally, google,
> but all I found were lots of the same error, and no information on
> it/what's broken. Anyone else having this particular problem? The
> block errors are below.
> 
> [blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking
> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
> 
> [blocks B ]  sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
> 
> [blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking
> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
> 
> [blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is blocking
> sys-libs/ss-1.40.9,
> sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9)   
> 
> This was during an emerge --update world.
> 
> 

emerge -C e2fsprogs, ss, com_err && emerge -1 e2fsprogs 

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Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:07:35 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> Is it possible to revoke this for whole bunch
> of packages like
> kde-base/*
> 
> I've tried the following line in /etc/portage/package.keywords
> 
> kde-base/* -~amd64

If you are trying to prevent KDE4 installing, it is better to put

kde-base/kde-meta:4.1 in /etc/portage/package.mask


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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread Andrey Vul
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:08 PM, James Homuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> During an update attempt this afternoon, these little surprises were waiting
> for me. I took a look at the archives, and naturally, google, but all I
> found were lots of the same error, and no information on it/what's broken.
> Anyone else having this particular problem? The block errors are below.
>
> [blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>
> [blocks B ]  sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>
> [blocks B ] sys-libs/com_err (is blocking
> sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)
>
> [blocks B ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs (is blocking sys-libs/ss-1.40.9,
> sys-libs/com_err-1.40.9)
>
> This was during an emerge --update world.
Unmerge the old e2fsprogs and emerge the new programs and libs. IIRC
this is not new. I had this happen a few months ago.



-- 
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?



Re: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble

2008-10-28 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:58:16 +0200 Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 28 October 2008 18:46:11 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:26:07 -0700 Brian Wince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >   -Original Message-
>> >   From: Allan Gottlieb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:09 AM
>> >   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> >   Subject: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble
>> >
>> >   Yesterday's update to ssh (openssh-5.1_p1-r1) is giving me trouble.
>
> I take it you did the obvious and restarted sshd after the upgrade?

Yes.  Indeed it was the next day that I encountered the failure.
Brian's fix was what I needed.  I must have changed the config last time
and not left my usual
# AJG:
marker to alert me.  I should have noticed the change to X11Forwarding
when I did etc-update, but unfortunately did not.

allan



[gentoo-user] Circular blocks after last night's sync?

2008-10-28 Thread James Homuth
During an update attempt this afternoon, these little surprises were waiting
for me. I took a look at the archives, and naturally, google, but all I
found were lots of the same error, and no information on it/what's broken.
Anyone else having this particular problem? The block errors are below.

[blocks B ] sys-libs/ss (is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.2)

[blocks B ] 

[gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-28 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

I have 
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64"

in /etc/make.conf
and I want to keep it.

Is it possible to revoke this for whole bunch
of packages like
kde-base/*

I've tried the following line in /etc/portage/package.keywords

kde-base/* -~amd64

but it doesn't help.

Many thanks for a hint,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 18:46:11 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:26:07 -0700 Brian Wince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   -Original Message-
> >   From: Allan Gottlieb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:09 AM
> >   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> >   Subject: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble
> >
> >   Yesterday's update to ssh (openssh-5.1_p1-r1) is giving me trouble.

I take it you did the obvious and restarted sshd after the upgrade?


-- 
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[gentoo-user] perl 5.10 from perl-experimental overlay. package collisions.

2008-10-28 Thread Nickolay Hodyunya
Is it ok to delete packages mentioned in error output of perl-5.10
build from perl-experemental overlay?
* Detected file collision(s):
*
* /usr/bin/ptardiff
* /usr/bin/ptar
* /usr/bin/config_data
* /usr/share/man/man1/ptar.1.bz2
* /usr/share/man/man1/ptardiff.1.bz2
* /usr/share/man/man1/config_data.1.bz2
*
* Searching all installed packages for file collisions...
*
* Press Ctrl-C to Stop
*
* dev-perl/module-build-0.30
* /usr/bin/config_data
* /usr/share/man/man1/config_data.1.bz2
*
* dev-perl/Archive-Tar-1.40
* /usr/bin/ptar
* /usr/bin/ptardiff
* /usr/share/man/man1/ptar.1.bz2
* /usr/share/man/man1/ptardiff.1.bz2
* 
-- 
Regards, Nickolay Hodyunya.



RE: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble

2008-10-28 Thread Brian Wince


-Original Message-
From: Allan Gottlieb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:09 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble

Yesterday's update to ssh (openssh-5.1_p1-r1) is giving me trouble.

The client is allan.  The server is ajglap.

>From the client (gnome-terminal) I can run ssh as follows

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh ajglap
Last login: Tue Oct 28 11:50:02 EDT 2008 from allan on ssh
Last login: Tue Oct 28 11:54:33 2008 from allan
xhost:  unable to open display ""
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

adding a -Y gives the same output

But I can't run other server programs from the client.  The following
used to start emacs on the server displaying a new X11 window on the
client.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh -Y ajglap emacs
emacs: standard input is not a tty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

removing the -Y gives the same output

I went to the server and created ~/.ssh/config with contents

ForwardX11Trusted yes

But this didn't help (I also tried the risky ForwardX11).

I am planning to downgrade, but wanted to ask here first if I have just
misconfigured something (bugs.gentoo.org didn't seem to have anything
relevant).

thanks,
allan


Is "X11Forwarding yes" set in the sshd_config on ajglap?

brian



Re: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble

2008-10-28 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:26:07 -0700 Brian Wince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   -Original Message-
>   From: Allan Gottlieb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:09 AM
>   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>   Subject: [gentoo-user] ssh trouble
>  
>   Yesterday's update to ssh (openssh-5.1_p1-r1) is giving me trouble.
>  
>   The client is allan.  The server is ajglap.
>  
>  >From the client (gnome-terminal) I can run ssh as follows
>  
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh ajglap
>   Last login: Tue Oct 28 11:50:02 EDT 2008 from allan on ssh
>   Last login: Tue Oct 28 11:54:33 2008 from allan
>   xhost:  unable to open display ""
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $
>  
>   adding a -Y gives the same output
>  
>   But I can't run other server programs from the client.  The following
>   used to start emacs on the server displaying a new X11 window on the
>   client.
>  
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh -Y ajglap emacs
>   emacs: standard input is not a tty
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $
>  
>   removing the -Y gives the same output
>  
>   I went to the server and created ~/.ssh/config with contents
>  
>   ForwardX11Trusted yes
>  
>   But this didn't help (I also tried the risky ForwardX11).
>  
>   I am planning to downgrade, but wanted to ask here first if I have just
>   misconfigured something (bugs.gentoo.org didn't seem to have anything
>   relevant).
>  
>   thanks,
>   allan
>
> Is "X11Forwarding yes" set in the sshd_config on ajglap?

It is now!

thanks,
allan



[gentoo-user] ssh trouble

2008-10-28 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Yesterday's update to ssh (openssh-5.1_p1-r1) is giving me trouble.

The client is allan.  The server is ajglap.

>From the client (gnome-terminal) I can run ssh as follows

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh ajglap
Last login: Tue Oct 28 11:50:02 EDT 2008 from allan on ssh
Last login: Tue Oct 28 11:54:33 2008 from allan
xhost:  unable to open display ""
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ 

adding a -Y gives the same output

But I can't run other server programs from the client.  The following
used to start emacs on the server displaying a new X11 window on the
client.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ssh -Y ajglap emacs
emacs: standard input is not a tty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ 

removing the -Y gives the same output

I went to the server and created ~/.ssh/config with contents

ForwardX11Trusted yes

But this didn't help (I also tried the risky ForwardX11).

I am planning to downgrade, but wanted to ask here first if I have just
misconfigured something (bugs.gentoo.org didn't seem to have anything
relevant).

thanks,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

2008-10-28 Thread Andrey Vul
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Nickolay Hodyunya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:07:14AM -0400, Andrey Vul wrote:
>> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
>> ALSA is working.
>> Hardware is working.
>> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
> did you forget to connect your headphones?
It's not headphones, it's a 5.1 system and all the connections are
seated tightly. And it's *on*.


-- 
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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?



Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

2008-10-28 Thread Nickolay Hodyunya
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:07:14AM -0400, Andrey Vul wrote:
> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
> ALSA is working.
> Hardware is working.
> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
> 
> Any suggestions?
did you forget to connect your headphones? 

-- 
Regards, Nickolay Hodyunya.



Re: [gentoo-user] kde install mess

2008-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 16:39:34 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> anyhow I managed to get a mess of blockings when trying to emerge kde
> packages. (might be that has something to do with the recent downgrade
> from  3.5.10-r* to 3.5.9)
>
> Just one example:
>
> trying to emerge e.g. konsole:3.5  I get
>
> "kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5" is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4
>
> but I cannot see any negative DEPEND either in the ebuilds of
> kdebase-kioslaves nor kdebase-3.5.9-r4
>
> So, what went wrong here?

You are mixing kde:3.5 monolithic and split ebuilds

kdebase-kioslaves is a split ebuild
kdebase is a monolithic one

I suspect you have monolithic kde installed and are trying to emerge konsole. 
That will never work.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] kde install mess

2008-10-28 Thread András Csányi
2008/10/28 Helmut Jarausch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> anyhow I managed to get a mess of blockings when trying to emerge kde
> packages. (might be that has something to do with the recent downgrade
> from  3.5.10-r* to 3.5.9)
>
> Just one example:
>
> trying to emerge e.g. konsole:3.5  I get
>
> "kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5" is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4
>
> but I cannot see any negative DEPEND either in the ebuilds of
> kdebase-kioslaves nor kdebase-3.5.9-r4
>
> So, what went wrong here?
>
> Many thanks for a hint,

Do you have any package which belongs kde-meta with ~x86 keywords?
I remember I wanted to reemerge few package on my system few weeks ago
and I had some kde package with ~x86 and I got lot of blocking
message.
The solution: I don't use kde package with ~x86.

I hope I could help.

András

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Re: [gentoo-user] gimp-9999 failed to compile

2008-10-28 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 27 Oct, Nickolay Hodyunya wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 01:05:16PM +0100, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Nickolay Hodyunya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> wrote:
>> > I was trying to compile latest gimp from svn, but it fail because gegl
>> > version in ports is 0.0.20 but gimp- requires >=0.0.21. Have I any 
>> > chance
>> > to see this version in ports tree?
>> >
>> Did you try renaming the gegl ebuild to smth like 0.0.21, in
>> /usr/local overlay, and emerging it?
>> Liviu
>> 
> Yes, but it seems 0.0.21 is not even released, because there is no files to 
> fetch
> from ftp.gimp.org for this version. 

It needs gegl svn. To do those I've built an entry in my overlay tree.

If your interested I can send this to you by email.
But it's not funny since there is patch 
gegl-21-configure-ac.patch
derived ffrom gegl-20-configure-ac.patch
which has to be adapted to the current svn version.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



[gentoo-user] kde install mess

2008-10-28 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

anyhow I managed to get a mess of blockings when trying to emerge kde
packages. (might be that has something to do with the recent downgrade
from  3.5.10-r* to 3.5.9)

Just one example:

trying to emerge e.g. konsole:3.5  I get

"kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5" is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4

but I cannot see any negative DEPEND either in the ebuilds of 
kdebase-kioslaves nor kdebase-3.5.9-r4

So, what went wrong here?

Many thanks for a hint,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany




[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!

2008-10-28 Thread Kevin Monceaux


On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, deface wrote:


The offsite backups, were actually on another server, on another link...
inside the same company.


if (InsideTheSameCompany == AtTheSameLocation) then
ThoseWereNotOffsiteBackups = True
end



Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX

Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!!




Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

2008-10-28 Thread Andrey Vul
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:29 AM, David Sveningsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrey Vul skrev:
>> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
>> ALSA is working.
>> Hardware is working.
>> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>
> Have you unmuted the channels (using alsamixer)? They are muted by default.
Yes, I have.

screenshot of alsamixer:
┌[AlsaMixer v1.0.17 (Press Escape to
quit)]─┐
│ Card: CA0106
 │
│ Chip:
 │
│ View: [Playback] Capture  All
 │
│ Item: IEC958
 │
│
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│
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│
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│
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-- 
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?


Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

2008-10-28 Thread David Sveningsson
Andrey Vul skrev:
> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
> ALSA is working.
> Hardware is working.
> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 

Have you unmuted the channels (using alsamixer)? They are muted by default.

-- 


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[gentoo-user] no sound

2008-10-28 Thread Andrey Vul
I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
ALSA is working.
Hardware is working.
Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.

Any suggestions?

-- 
Andrey Vul

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?



Re: [gentoo-user] broken ALSA

2008-10-28 Thread Andrey Vul
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, M. Sitorus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i have the same problem. here is mine :
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-712862.html
>
> --
> Salam,
>
> Marc
>
>
Apparently asym needs to be the final token in ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS.
I don't know why, but doing that made alsa work again (i.e. the ebuild
recognized ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS contains "asym").


-- 
Andrey Vul

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?