Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Jose Pacheco

Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there are more
but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip as
well. So that would be your best solution right now.

Hope this info helped out

The Sourcekillaz Team
- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
Answer
my Question thean DONT!!

My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is that
Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!!

READ THE POST SHEESH!!
- Original Message -
From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Heard of google dood, sheesh?

anyways..

http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm

--- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error
? im
behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if
others
want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router

On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
answer my
 question so they said to post here.

 I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST
HalfLife is
 because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs an
Exterenal IP.

 My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife use my External
IP?? I am
 using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro

 THNX
 Gerald
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Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)

@gerald
In the startup string add:
+ip external ip

for example: +ip 123.123.123.123

That should do it.


@jose
. really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants an
*IP* which IP it should use?
You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.


- Original Message -
From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there are
more
but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip as
well. So that would be your best solution right now.

Hope this info helped out

The Sourcekillaz Team
- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
Answer
my Question thean DONT!!

My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
that
Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!!

READ THE POST SHEESH!!
- Original Message -
From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Heard of google dood, sheesh?

anyways..

http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm

--- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error
? im
behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if
others
want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router

On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
answer my
 question so they said to post here.

 I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST
HalfLife is
 because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs an
Exterenal IP.

 My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife use my External
IP?? I am
 using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro

 THNX
 Gerald
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Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

@Sailor
Sorry for noobish question but where would I find the Startup String??

THNX  Gerald
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Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@gerald
In the startup string add:
+ip external ip

for example: +ip 123.123.123.123

That should do it.


@jose
. really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants
an
*IP* which IP it should use?
You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.


- Original Message -
From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there are
more
but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip
as
well. So that would be your best solution right now.

Hope this info helped out

The Sourcekillaz Team
- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
Answer
my Question thean DONT!!

My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
that
Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!!

READ THE POST SHEESH!!
- Original Message -
From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Heard of google dood, sheesh?

anyways..

http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm

--- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--
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what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error
? im
behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if
others
want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router

On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
answer my
 question so they said to post here.

 I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST
HalfLife is
 because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs an
Exterenal IP.

 My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife use my External
IP?? I am
 using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro

 THNX
 Gerald
 --


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Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Jose Pacheco

No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so
the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds
box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life
easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your ISP
doesnt provide it free of charge.

- Original Message -
From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@gerald
In the startup string add:
+ip external ip

for example: +ip 123.123.123.123

That should do it.


@jose
. really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants
an
*IP* which IP it should use?
You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.


- Original Message -
From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there are
more
but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip
as
well. So that would be your best solution right now.

Hope this info helped out

The Sourcekillaz Team
- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
Answer
my Question thean DONT!!

My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
that
Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!!

READ THE POST SHEESH!!
- Original Message -
From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Heard of google dood, sheesh?

anyways..

http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm

--- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error
? im
behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if
others
want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router

On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
answer my
 question so they said to post here.

 I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST
HalfLife is
 because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs an
Exterenal IP.

 My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife use my External
IP?? I am
 using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro

 THNX
 Gerald
 --


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Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)

if you want your server to appeare in the server list
If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
relevant

If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected)
your server will be added to the master list automatically.
All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember
why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).

Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup
line every time it is changed by the ISP
Now I get it. ^__^
I tested it and that works indeed.

I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#


- Original Message -
From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so
the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds
box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life
easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your
ISP
doesnt provide it free of charge.

- Original Message -
From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@gerald
In the startup string add:
+ip external ip

for example: +ip 123.123.123.123

That should do it.


@jose
. really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants
an
*IP* which IP it should use?
You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.


- Original Message -
From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there are
more
but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip
as
well. So that would be your best solution right now.

Hope this info helped out

The Sourcekillaz Team
- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
Answer
my Question thean DONT!!

My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
that
Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!!

READ THE POST SHEESH!!
- Original Message -
From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Heard of google dood, sheesh?

anyways..

http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm

--- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--
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what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error
? im
behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if
others
want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router

On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
answer my
 question so they said to post here.

 I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST
HalfLife is
 because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs an
Exterenal IP.

 My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife use my External
IP?? I am
 using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro

 THNX
 Gerald
 --


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Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)

When using hlds.exe from the command prompt (or addressing from a
batchfile):

hlds.exe -game tfc -port 27015 +maxplayers 30 +map dustbowl +ip
123.123.123.123 -console -zone 1024

-game -tfc   -   start a TFC hlds
-port 27015   -on port 27015
+maxplayers 30   -   with a max of 30 players
+map dustbowl   -   start server with dustbowl
-noipx   -   don't use ipx (to relieve the CPU a bit IPX is disabled)
+ip 123.123.123.123   -   bind hlds on IP 123.123.123.123
-console   -   start the server in console (a DOS box like screen)
-zone 1024  don't know this one, could be a buffering thing

To start a different game use the -game and replace tfc with:
Counter-Strike Source
dods
hl2mp
cstrike
czero
dmc
dod
gearbox (opposing forces)
ricochet
valve (halflife)


- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@Sailor
Sorry for noobish question but where would I find the Startup String??

THNX  Gerald
- Original Message -
From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@gerald
In the startup string add:
+ip external ip

for example: +ip 123.123.123.123

That should do it.


@jose
. really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants
an
*IP* which IP it should use?
You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.


- Original Message -
From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there are
more
but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip
as
well. So that would be your best solution right now.

Hope this info helped out

The Sourcekillaz Team
- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
Answer
my Question thean DONT!!

My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
that
Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!!

READ THE POST SHEESH!!
- Original Message -
From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Heard of google dood, sheesh?

anyways..

http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm

--- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error
? im
behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if
others
want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router

On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
answer my
 question so they said to post here.

 I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST
HalfLife is
 because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs an
Exterenal IP.

 My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife use my External
IP?? I am
 using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro

 THNX
 Gerald
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Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread mjjordan
I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If 
port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to 
connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have 
my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the 
server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice 
that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help 
someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a 
pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get 
more bandwidth in this hick town.

 From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 if you want your server to appeare in the server list
 If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
 relevant

 If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected)
 your server will be added to the master list automatically.
 All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember
 why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).

 Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup
 line every time it is changed by the ISP
 Now I get it. ^__^
 I tested it and that works indeed.

 I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#


 - Original Message -
 From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
  domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so
  the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds
  box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
  startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life
  easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your
  ISP
  doesnt provide it free of charge.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  @gerald
  In the startup string add:
  +ip external ip
 
  for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
 
  That should do it.
 
 
  @jose
  . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants
  an
  *IP* which IP it should use?
  You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
  www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there are
  more
  but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip
  as
  well. So that would be your best solution right now.
 
  Hope this info helped out
 
  The Sourcekillaz Team
  - Original Message -
  From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
  Answer
  my Question thean DONT!!
 
  My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
  that
  Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!!
 
  READ THE POST SHEESH!!
  - Original Message -
  From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Heard of google dood, sheesh?
 
  anyways..
 
  http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm
 
  --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error
  ? im
  behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if
  others
  want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router
 
  On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
   Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
  answer my
   question so they said to post here.
  
   I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST
  HalfLife is
   because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs an
  Exterenal IP.
  
   My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife use my External
  IP?? I am
   using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro
  
   THNX
   Gerald
   --

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Whisper
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hence the reason he was sent to the STEAM Forums

Do not pass go

Do not collect $200

On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly.
 If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be
 able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I
 do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

 The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
 starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from
 there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it
 very hard to help someone out.

 My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's
 a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I
 could get more bandwidth in this hick town.
 
  From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  if you want your server to appeare in the server list
  If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
  relevant
 
  If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
 configed/connected)
  your server will be added to the master list automatically.
  All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
 remember
  why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
 
  Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
 startup
  line every time it is changed by the ISP
  Now I get it. ^__^
  I tested it and that works indeed.
 
  I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
   No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
   domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list,
 so
   the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
 srcds
   box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in
 the
   startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make
 life
   easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if
 your
   ISP
   doesnt provide it free of charge.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
  
   @gerald
   In the startup string add:
   +ip external ip
  
   for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
  
   That should do it.
  
  
   @jose
   . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
 wants
   an
   *IP* which IP it should use?
   You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
  
   Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
   www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
 are
   more
   but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of
 ip
   as
   well. So that would be your best solution right now.
  
   Hope this info helped out
  
   The Sourcekillaz Team
   - Original Message -
   From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
  
   YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT
 wanna
   Answer
   my Question thean DONT!!
  
   My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem
 is
   that
   Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL
 IP!!
  
   READ THE POST SHEESH!!
   - Original Message -
   From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
  
   Heard of google dood, sheesh?
  
   anyways..
  
   http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm
  
   --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --
   [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
   what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of
 error
   ? im
   behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and
 connect. if
   others
   want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router
  
   On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
   answer my
question so they 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

SORRY but I am VERY Familiar with Port Forwarding it is setup Properly it is
NOT an issue with port forwarding


- Original Message -
From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hence the reason he was sent to the STEAM Forums

Do not pass go

Do not collect $200

On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly.
If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will
be
able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list.
I
do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line
from
there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes
it
very hard to help someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's
a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I
could get more bandwidth in this hick town.

 From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 if you want your server to appeare in the server list
 If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
 relevant

 If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
configed/connected)
 your server will be added to the master list automatically.
 All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
remember
 why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).

 Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
startup
 line every time it is changed by the ISP
 Now I get it. ^__^
 I tested it and that works indeed.

 I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#


 - Original Message -
 From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but
  the
  domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server
  list,
so
  the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
srcds
  box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in
the
  startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make
life
  easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if
your
  ISP
  doesnt provide it free of charge.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  @gerald
  In the startup string add:
  +ip external ip
 
  for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
 
  That should do it.
 
 
  @jose
  . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
wants
  an
  *IP* which IP it should use?
  You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
  www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
are
  more
  but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead
  of
ip
  as
  well. So that would be your best solution right now.
 
  Hope this info helped out
 
  The Sourcekillaz Team
  - Original Message -
  From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT
wanna
  Answer
  my Question thean DONT!!
 
  My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem
is
  that
  Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL
IP!!
 
  READ THE POST SHEESH!!
  - Original Message -
  From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Heard of google dood, sheesh?
 
  anyways..
 
  http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm
 
  --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of
error
  ? im
  behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and
connect. if
  others
  want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router
 
  On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
   

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT
a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If
port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able
to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do
not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting
the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there.
It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very
hard to help someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a
pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could
get more bandwidth in this hick town.


From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

if you want your server to appeare in the server list
If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
relevant

If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected)
your server will be added to the master list automatically.
All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember
why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).

Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
startup
line every time it is changed by the ISP
Now I get it. ^__^
I tested it and that works indeed.

I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#


- Original Message -
From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
 domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list,
 so
 the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
 srcds
 box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
 startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life
 easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your
 ISP
 doesnt provide it free of charge.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 @gerald
 In the startup string add:
 +ip external ip

 for example: +ip 123.123.123.123

 That should do it.


 @jose
 . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
 wants
 an
 *IP* which IP it should use?
 You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.


 - Original Message -
 From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
 www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
 are
 more
 but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of
 ip
 as
 well. So that would be your best solution right now.

 Hope this info helped out

 The Sourcekillaz Team
 - Original Message -
 From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
 Answer
 my Question thean DONT!!

 My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
 that
 Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL
 IP!!

 READ THE POST SHEESH!!
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 Heard of google dood, sheesh?

 anyways..

 http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm

 --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of
 error
 ? im
 behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect.
 if
 others
 want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router

 On 06/10/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
 answer my
  question so they said to post here.
 
  I read in the STEAM support site that the reason I cant HOST
 HalfLife is
  because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP and it Needs an
 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread LDuke
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
The server definitily shouldn't be bound to the external port on your
router. It shouldn't even be possible to do that.

The server IP will be something like 192.168.0.4. People connect by using
your public IP and the router forwards the traffic. If they can't connect
using the public IP, then there is something set wrong: the port forwarding
is setup wrong, the computer you are hosting srcds on has a firewall setup,
etc.


On 10/6/06, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 SORRY but I am VERY Familiar with Port Forwarding it is setup Properly it
 is
 NOT an issue with port forwarding


 - Original Message -
 From: Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  Hence the reason he was sent to the STEAM Forums
 
  Do not pass go
 
  Do not collect $200
 
  On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up
 properly.
  If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will
  be
  able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server
 list.
  I
  do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
 
  The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
  starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line
  from
  there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes
  it
  very hard to help someone out.
 
  My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one.
 It's
  a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I
  could get more bandwidth in this hick town.
  
   From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
   if you want your server to appeare in the server list
   If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve:
 not
   relevant
  
   If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
  configed/connected)
   your server will be added to the master list automatically.
   All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
  remember
   why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
  
   Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
  startup
   line every time it is changed by the ISP
   Now I get it. ^__^
   I tested it and that works indeed.
  
   I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
  
No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but
the
domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server
list,
  so
the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting
 the
  srcds
box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in
  the
startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make
  life
easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if
  your
ISP
doesnt provide it free of charge.
   
- Original Message -
From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
   
   
@gerald
In the startup string add:
+ip external ip
   
for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
   
That should do it.
   
   
@jose
. really, how is a domainname going to tell an application
 that
  wants
an
*IP* which IP it should use?
You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
   
   
- Original Message -
From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
   
   
Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one,
 there
  are
more
but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead
of
  ip
as
well. So that would be your best solution right now.
   
Hope this info helped out
   
The Sourcekillaz Team
- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
   
   
YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT
  wanna
Answer
my Question thean DONT!!
   
My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the
 problem
  is
that
Stem is using 

[hlds] Css dedicated server problem [OS windows]

2006-10-06 Thread Mr. Wanker
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hi,
I start my server and when i look into the server list,its in LAN.
What do i have to do?
Is it something with my firewall? I set my firewall to  allow all  but
that doesn't help and sv_lan 0 doesn't either.
I just want to start a server so I can play online with my friends.
Can anyone help me please?

Thank you.
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RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread DLinkOZ
I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in
place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow
direct IP connections.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT
a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If
port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able
to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do
not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting
the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there.
It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very
hard to help someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a
pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could
get more bandwidth in this hick town.

 From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 if you want your server to appeare in the server list
 If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
 relevant

 If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected)
 your server will be added to the master list automatically.
 All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember
 why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).

 Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
 startup
 line every time it is changed by the ISP
 Now I get it. ^__^
 I tested it and that works indeed.

 I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#


 - Original Message -
 From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
  domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list,
  so
  the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
  srcds
  box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
  startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life
  easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your
  ISP
  doesnt provide it free of charge.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  @gerald
  In the startup string add:
  +ip external ip
 
  for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
 
  That should do it.
 
 
  @jose
  . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
  wants
  an
  *IP* which IP it should use?
  You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
  www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
  are
  more
  but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of
  ip
  as
  well. So that would be your best solution right now.
 
  Hope this info helped out
 
  The Sourcekillaz Team
  - Original Message -
  From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
  Answer
  my Question thean DONT!!
 
  My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
  that
  Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL
  IP!!
 
  READ THE POST SHEESH!!
  - Original Message -
  From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Heard of google dood, sheesh?
 
  anyways..
 
  http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm
 
  --- Father dougal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of
  error
  ? im
  behind a router and i can run both a server 

Re: [hlds] Css dedicated server problem [OS windows]

2006-10-06 Thread Jamie Garside

Well it will be listed in LAN because it is on the local network, even
if it is running in Internet/sv_lan 0. Have you actually tried to get
your friends to connect to it?

Mr. Wanker wrote:

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hi,
I start my server and when i look into the server list,its in LAN.
What do i have to do?
Is it something with my firewall? I set my firewall to  allow all  but
that doesn't help and sv_lan 0 doesn't either.
I just want to start a server so I can play online with my friends.
Can anyone help me please?

Thank you.
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Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

@DlinkOz
here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed
so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I
could solve it!!

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in
place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow
direct IP connections.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is
NOT
a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly.
If
port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be
able
to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do
not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
starting
the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there.
It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very
hard to help someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's
a
pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I
could
get more bandwidth in this hick town.


From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

if you want your server to appeare in the server list
If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
relevant

If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
configed/connected)
your server will be added to the master list automatically.
All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
remember
why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).

Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
startup
line every time it is changed by the ISP
Now I get it. ^__^
I tested it and that works indeed.

I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#


- Original Message -
From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
 domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list,
 so
 the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
 srcds
 box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
 startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make
 life
 easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your
 ISP
 doesnt provide it free of charge.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 @gerald
 In the startup string add:
 +ip external ip

 for example: +ip 123.123.123.123

 That should do it.


 @jose
 . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
 wants
 an
 *IP* which IP it should use?
 You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.


 - Original Message -
 From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
 www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
 are
 more
 but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of
 ip
 as
 well. So that would be your best solution right now.

 Hope this info helped out

 The Sourcekillaz Team
 - Original Message -
 From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
 Answer
 my Question thean DONT!!

 My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem
 is
 that
 Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL
 IP!!

 READ THE POST SHEESH!!
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 Heard of google dood, sheesh?

 anyways..

 

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Scott Tuttle
Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
www.gametiger.net ?

If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to
sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to make sure you
have the sv_region set properly.

http://tinyurl.com/h35as

All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.

http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have already
looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and
maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple check them.  Because these
are all you need.

-Scott


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 @DlinkOz
 here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you
 can see I passed
 so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
 that simple I
 could solve it!!

 THNX Gerald
 - Original Message -
 From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
 you put in
  place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
 firewall to allow
  direct IP connections.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
 Properly It is
  NOT
  a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set
 up properly.
  If
  port forwarding is done right the game server will work,
 people will be
  able
  to connect and it will eventually show up in the master
 server list. I do
  not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
 
  The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
  starting
  the server from the steam menu. You never see a command
 line from there.
  It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it
 makes it very
  hard to help someone out.
 
  My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't
 have one. It's
  a
  pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I
 just wish I
  could
  get more bandwidth in this hick town.
 
  From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  if you want your server to appeare in the server list
  If you mean to have your server appear in the master list
 at valve: not
  relevant
 
  If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
  configed/connected)
  your server will be added to the master list automatically.
  All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
  remember
  why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
 
  Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
  startup
  line every time it is changed by the ISP
  Now I get it. ^__^
  I tested it and that works indeed.
 
  I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at
 home. #^_^#
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
   No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is
 correct, but the
   domain would be if you want your server to appeare in
 the server list,
   so
   the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is
 hosting the
   srcds
   box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip
 manually in the
   startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some
 like to make
   life
   easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a
 static ip if your
   ISP
   doesnt provide it free of charge.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Sailor Mercury-sama (NL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
  
   @gerald
   In the startup string add:
   +ip external ip
  
   for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
  
   That should do it.
  
  
   @jose
   . really, how is a domainname going to tell an
 application that
   wants
   an
   *IP* which IP it should 

Re: [hlds] srcds.exe - Application Error keeping fire daemon from restarting hl2mp

2006-10-06 Thread James McKenna

Well, it just errored again with -nocrashdialogue

Moving onto the next suggestion with the registry.
- Original Message -
From: Steve Rabouin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] srcds.exe - Application Error keeping fire daemon from
restarting hl2mp



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Use command line -nocrashdialog

:)

On 10/5/06, James McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey guys, how's everyone feeling tonight?

Listen, we recently moved our servers to a new server machine and ran
into
an old friend (problem) that we had fixed on our old box long ago and
have
since forgotten how to fix it. After picking eachothers brains here at
the
office we decided we'd give it a rest and see if you guys could assist
us.

Our hl2mp server runs as a service on fire daemon, as do all of our
servers.
However, we're getting this lovely error:

srcds.exe - Application Error
The instruction at 0x012833da referenced memory at 0x00e192a0.  The
memory could not be read.  click on OK to terminate the program

Now, I've been hunting for a fix for days now and it's driving me crazy.
I've tried everything listed in

http://forums.firedaemon.com/viewtopic.php?t=213postdays=0postorder=ascstart=0
to try and solve it with no success.

I'm sure someone out there encountered this same problem and found a work
around to allow the server to simply crash with no error and restart.

Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.


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Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

@Scott
I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need
nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other
games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I
wanna play as well.
Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat
usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or
Not.

that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all
the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the
support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I
cant Host??




- Original Message -
From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
www.gametiger.net ?

If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to
sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to make sure you
have the sv_region set properly.

http://tinyurl.com/h35as

All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.

http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
already
looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and
maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple check them.  Because
these
are all you need.

-Scott



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOz
here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you
can see I passed
so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
that simple I
could solve it!!

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
you put in
 place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
firewall to allow
 direct IP connections.




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
Properly It is
 NOT
 a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set
up properly.
 If
 port forwarding is done right the game server will work,
people will be
 able
 to connect and it will eventually show up in the master
server list. I do
 not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

 The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
 starting
 the server from the steam menu. You never see a command
line from there.
 It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it
makes it very
 hard to help someone out.

 My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't
have one. It's
 a
 pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I
just wish I
 could
 get more bandwidth in this hick town.

 From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 if you want your server to appeare in the server list
 If you mean to have your server appear in the master list
at valve: not
 relevant

 If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
 configed/connected)
 your server will be added to the master list automatically.
 All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
 remember
 why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).

 Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
 startup
 line every time it is changed by the ISP
 Now I get it. ^__^
 I tested it and that works indeed.

 I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at
home. #^_^#


 - Original Message -
 From: Jose Pacheco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is
correct, but the
  domain would be if you want your server to appeare in
the server list,
  so
  the domain would be setup to 

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Michael Jordan
At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power,
you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server.
At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
console that will give a hint to your problem.

BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@Scott
I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need
nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other
games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I
wanna play as well.
Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat
usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or
Not.

that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all
the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the
support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I
cant Host??




- Original Message -
From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

 There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

 When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

 Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
 www.gametiger.net ?

 If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
 seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
 make sure you have the sv_region set properly.

 http://tinyurl.com/h35as

 All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.

 http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

 Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
 already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
 verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
 check them.  Because these are all you need.

 -Scott


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 @DlinkOz
 here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
 passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
 that simple I could solve it!!

 THNX Gerald
 - Original Message -
 From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
 you put in
  place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
 firewall to allow
  direct IP connections.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
 Properly It is
  NOT
  a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set
 up properly.
  If
  port forwarding is done right the game server will work,
 people will be
  able
  to connect and it will eventually show up in the master
 server list. I do
  not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
 
  The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
  starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command
 line from there.
  It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it
 makes it very
  hard to help someone out.
 
  My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't
 have one. It's
  a
  pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I
 just wish I
  could
  get more bandwidth in this hick town.
 
  From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  if you want your server to appeare in the server list
  If you mean to have your server appear in the master list
 at valve: not
  relevant
 
  If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
  configed/connected)
  your server will be added to the master list automatically.
  All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
  remember why to find a computer on 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

@Michael
I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
Dropped Nephilim from server
Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
- Original Message -
From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
power,
you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
server.
At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
console that will give a hint to your problem.

BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@Scott
I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need
nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other
games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as
I
wanna play as well.
Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat
usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or
Not.

that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all
the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
the
support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why
I
cant Host??




- Original Message -
From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
www.gametiger.net ?

If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
make sure you have the sv_region set properly.

http://tinyurl.com/h35as

All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.

http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
check them.  Because these are all you need.

-Scott



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOz
here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
that simple I could solve it!!

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
you put in
 place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
firewall to allow
 direct IP connections.




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
Properly It is
 NOT
 a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set
up properly.
 If
 port forwarding is done right the game server will work,
people will be
 able
 to connect and it will eventually show up in the master
server list. I do
 not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

 The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
 starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command
line from there.
 It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it
makes it very
 hard to help someone out.

 My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't
have one. It's
 a
 pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I
just wish I
 could
 get more bandwidth in this hick town.

 From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 if you want your server to 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Kyle Caulfield
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
what is your native language, maybe I can help you better if I knew that...

On 10/6/06, Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
 power,
 you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
 server.
 At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
 console that will give a hint to your problem.

 BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 @Scott
 I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need
 nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other
 games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as
 I
 wanna play as well.
 Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat
 usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or
 Not.

 that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
 Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all
 the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
 the
 support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why
 I
 cant Host??




 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
 
  There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
 
  When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
 
  Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
  www.gametiger.net ?
 
  If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
  seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
  make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/h35as
 
  All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
 
  Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
  already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
  verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
  check them.  Because these are all you need.
 
  -Scott
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  @DlinkOz
  here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
  passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
  that simple I could solve it!!
 
  THNX Gerald
  - Original Message -
  From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
  you put in
   place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
  firewall to allow
   direct IP connections.
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
   Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
   well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
  Properly It is
   NOT
   a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
   - Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
   Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
  
   I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set
  up properly.
   If
   port forwarding is done right the game server will work,
  people will be
   able
   to connect and it will eventually show up in the master
  server list. I do
   not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
  
   The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
   starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command
  line from there.
   It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it
  makes it very
   hard to help someone out.
  
   My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't
  have one. It's
   a
   pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I
  just wish I
   could
   get more bandwidth in this hick town.
  
   From: Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
   if you want your server to appeare in the server list
   If you mean to 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Ryan Brady
ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house.

- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 @Michael
 I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

 ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
 Dropped Nephilim from server
 Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


 will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
 Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
  power,
  you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
  server.
  At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
  console that will give a hint to your problem.
 
  BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  @Scott
  I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they
need
  nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting
other
  games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server
as
  I
  wanna play as well.
  Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.
Somewhat
  usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open
or
  Not.
 
  that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
  Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted
all
  the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
  the
  support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer
why
  I
  cant Host??
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
 
  There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
 
  When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
 
  Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
  www.gametiger.net ?
 
  If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
  seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
  make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/h35as
 
  All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support
area.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
 
  Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
  already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
  verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
  check them.  Because these are all you need.
 
  -Scott
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  @DlinkOz
  here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
  passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
  that simple I could solve it!!
 
  THNX Gerald
  - Original Message -
  From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
  you put in
   place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
  firewall to allow
   direct IP connections.
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
   Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
  
   well you would LOOSe that bet;)  

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread DLinkOZ
I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
Such as:

I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server

That would give us something to go on.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house.

- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 @Michael
 I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

 ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
 Dropped Nephilim from server
 Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


 will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
 Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
  power,
  you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
  server.
  At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
  console that will give a hint to your problem.
 
  BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  @Scott
  I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they
need
  nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting
other
  games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server
as
  I
  wanna play as well.
  Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.
Somewhat
  usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open
or
  Not.
 
  that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
  Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted
all
  the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
  the
  support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer
why
  I
  cant Host??
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
 
  There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
 
  When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
 
  Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
  www.gametiger.net ?
 
  If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
  seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
  make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/h35as
 
  All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support
area.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
 
  Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
  already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
  verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
  check them.  Because these are all you need.
 
  -Scott
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  @DlinkOz
  here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
  passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
  that simple I could solve it!!
 
  THNX Gerald
  - Original Message -
  From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
  you put in
   

Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Link Pankratz

Not quite true. If you have a decent router and you set an internal
server as DMZ, it's NIC will have the public IP value. The reason why
it's best to run dual NIC's on a server that faces the public. Keep the
networks separated.

Link

Ryan Brady wrote:

ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house.

- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..




@Michael
I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
Dropped Nephilim from server
Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
- Original Message -
From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..




At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
power,
you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
server.
At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
console that will give a hint to your problem.

BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@Scott
I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they


need


nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting


other


games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server


as


I
wanna play as well.
Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.


Somewhat


usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open


or


Not.

that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted


all


the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
the
support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer


why


I
cant Host??




- Original Message -
From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..




Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
www.gametiger.net ?

If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
make sure you have the sv_region set properly.

http://tinyurl.com/h35as

All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support


area.


http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
check them.  Because these are all you need.

-Scott




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOz
here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
that simple I could solve it!!

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..




I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have


you put in


place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent


firewall to allow


direct IP connections.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
To: 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

@DlinkOZ

I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
here is the link:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290

Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!

- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
Such as:

I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server

That would give us something to go on.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external
IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes
for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you
are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ.
In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on
your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my
house.

- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@Michael
I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
Dropped Nephilim from server
Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
- Original Message -
From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
 power,
 you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
 server.
 At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
 console that will give a hint to your problem.

 BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 @Scott
 I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they

need

 nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting

other

 games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server

as

 I
 wanna play as well.
 Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.

Somewhat

 usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open

or

 Not.

 that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
 Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted

all

 the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here
 by
 the
 support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer

why

 I
 cant Host??




 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

 There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

 When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

 Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
 www.gametiger.net ?

 If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
 seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
 make sure you have the sv_region set properly.

 http://tinyurl.com/h35as

 All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support

area.


 http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

 Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
 already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
 verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
 check them.  Because these are all you need.

 -Scott


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 @DlinkOz
 here is a screenshot of the 

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread DLinkOZ
Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is
UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without
rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just
about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device.  The point that you
wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed a
picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being honest),
so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write
that off as not a possible cause.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOZ

I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
here is the link:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290

Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!

- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
 Such as:

 I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server

 That would give us something to go on.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
 plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
 own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external
 IP.
 when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
 going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes
 for
 hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you
 are
 just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ.
 In
 the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
 pretty
 sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on
 your
 machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
 bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my
 house.

 - Original Message -
 From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 @Michael
 I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

 ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
 Dropped Nephilim from server
 Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


 will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
 Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
  power,
  you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
  server.
  At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
  console that will give a hint to your problem.
 
  BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  @Scott
  I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they
 need
  nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting
 other
  games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server
 as
  I
  wanna play as well.
  Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.
 Somewhat
  usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open
 or
  Not.
 
  that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
  Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted
 all
  the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here
  by
  the
  support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer
 why
  I
  cant Host??
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
 
  There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
 
  When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
 
  Also what is the name of your server so you can check for 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them
why do they say to open them all??
I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what
you mean by my knowledge level ??
- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward
is
UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without
rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just
about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device.  The point that
you
wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed
a
picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being
honest),
so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write
that off as not a possible cause.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOZ

I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
here is the link:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290

Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!

- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
Such as:

I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server

That would give us something to go on.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers
thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external
IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes
for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you
are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ.
In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on
your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my
house.

- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@Michael
I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
Dropped Nephilim from server
Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
- Original Message -
From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
 power,
 you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
 server.
 At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
 console that will give a hint to your problem.

 BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 @Scott
 I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they

need

 nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting

other

 games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server

as

 I
 wanna play as well.
 Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.

Somewhat

 usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open

or

 Not.

 that is why 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Ryan Brady
you are still not understanding. yes, you give out your external ip to
users, no you do not bind your server to that ip.

- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all
them
 why do they say to open them all??
 I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
 those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
 Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
 said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
 your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
 joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
 passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know
what
 you mean by my knowledge level ??
 - Original Message -
 From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward
  is
  UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound
without
  rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for
just
  about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device.  The point that
  you
  wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of
framed
  a
  picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being
  honest),
  so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write
  that off as not a possible cause.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  @DlinkOZ
 
  I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support
site.
  Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
  here is the link:
 
  http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290
 
  Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info
THNX!!
 
  - Original Message -
  From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've
done?
  Such as:
 
  I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server
 
  That would give us something to go on.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP.
you
  plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers
  thier
  own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and
external
  IP.
  when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer
is
  going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes
  for
  hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because
you
  are
  just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a
DMZ.
  In
  the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
  pretty
  sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on
  your
  machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you
cant
  bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my
  house.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  @Michael
  I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:
 
  ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
  Dropped Nephilim from server
  Reason:  Client sent 'drop'
 
 
  will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
  Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
  - Original Message -
  From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
   At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
   power,
   you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
   server.
   At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the
server
   console that will give a hint to your problem.
  
   BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
   Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
   

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Edward Luna
Close enough, hehehe... but your puter can have an internal and an external IP 
if it is multi-homed...like mine is.  The rest of what you said is fairly 
accurate, in a down and dirty kinda way... well done.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:25 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house.

- Original Message -
From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 @Michael
 I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

 ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
 Dropped Nephilim from server
 Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


 will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
 Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


  At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
  power,
  you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
  server.
  At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
  console that will give a hint to your problem.
 
  BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  @Scott
  I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they
need
  nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting
other
  games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server
as
  I
  wanna play as well.
  Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.
Somewhat
  usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open
or
  Not.
 
  that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
  Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted
all
  the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
  the
  support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer
why
  I
  cant Host??
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
 
  There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
 
  When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
 
  Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
  www.gametiger.net ?
 
  If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
  seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
  make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/h35as
 
  All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support
area.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
 
  Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
  already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
  verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
  check them.  Because these are all you need.
 
  -Scott
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
  @DlinkOz
  here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
  passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
  that simple I could solve it!!
 
  THNX Gerald
  - Original Message -
  From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
 
 
  I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
  

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Michael Jordan
No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the
group for troubleshooting.


I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look
close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and
my external IP is 75.117.144.3   I am also including my command line to show
you that the IP address isn't even listed.

D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname Warcraft3
Mod Fast XP +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll
-vacbeta  -autoupdate

It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the
dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server
kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your
server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join. This
will prove that your port forwarding is right.

If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam menu
server away and reload/reinstall it.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them
why do they say to open them all??
I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what
you mean by my knowledge level ??
- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to
 forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow
 outbound without rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic
 troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or
 NAT device.  The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your
 router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not
 trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the
 details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a
 possible cause.




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 @DlinkOZ

 I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
 Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another
 website here is the link:

 http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=00129
 0

 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!

 - Original Message -
 From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
 Such as:

 I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server

 That would give us something to go on.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP.
 you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your
 computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an
 internal and external IP.
 when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer
 is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same
 goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it
 because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding
 or setting up a DMZ.
 In
 the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
 pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that
 is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your
 computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server
 using your ip from my house.

 - Original Message -
 From: gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 @Michael
 I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

 ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
 Dropped Nephilim from server
 Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


 will that help 

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Edward Luna
I run several dedicated servers and the only port I have open for all the game 
servers is 27015 for TCP.  In router jargon this is the initial connection 
port and must be opened so the Internet can get to it. Of course the IP addy 
that the Internet sees is the Public (no need to say external) IP... the 
private IP, which no one can get directly to but you (private IP addresses are 
not addressable by routers in the Internet)... is the proverbial can't get 
there from here.

The initial connection is made by someone on the Internet to the router's 
public IP address which is forwarded to the server.  IP then negotiates a set 
of ports to be used by the session and when both sides agree, the connection is 
moved to a whole different set of ports you know nothing about and have even 
less control over.  Your server then returns to listening on 27015 (in my 
case) for the next initial connection request. This is the simplest form of 
router function and depends on a rule of allowing all outgoing traffic but 
restricting incoming connections to only those you've specified. If you've done 
that then your good to go.  Remember... the only IP address you've really got 
to work with is the public IP.  A router performing NAT (network address 
translation) will multiplex that IP address across the 32,000 or so IP ports 
available on each host.

On the outside chance that you do have a duel homed system (two NIC's) then 
check the binding order.  Make sure the NIC you want your game to bind to 
is first in the list or use the IP command line entry.  Best to do both.

-Original Message-
From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them
why do they say to open them all??
I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what
you mean by my knowledge level ??
- Original Message -
From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward
 is
 UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without
 rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just
 about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device.  The point that
 you
 wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed
 a
 picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being
 honest),
 so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write
 that off as not a possible cause.




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 @DlinkOZ

 I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
 Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
 here is the link:

 http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=64t=001290

 Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!

 - Original Message -
 From: DLinkOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
 Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


 I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
 Such as:

 I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server

 That would give us something to go on.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

 ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
 plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers
 thier
 own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external
 IP.
 when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
 going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes
 for
 hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you
 are
 just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ.
 In
 the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
 pretty
 sure. remember though, you connot bind