[Hornlist] Was solo beginnings Smetana and Hatikvah
What country's national anthem is based on the main theme from the Moldau? Israel--Hatikvah Yup! With an interesting change in meter but the same basic shape to the melody. It is too simplistic to say that Hatikvah is based on Smetana's Vltava. The melody of Hatikvah (The Hope) is certainly similar to Vltava but is usually considered a wandering melody because its tune and variants are found in folk traditions of widely separated countries. On page 222 of Abraham Zvi Idelsohn's Jewish Music In Its Historic Development, eight melodic sources similar to Hatikvah are shown including Spanish, Polish, Basque, Sephardic and Eastern-European Jewish secular and liturgical tunes and Smetana. As one would expect, there is much conjecture as to the origin of the Hatikvah melody. Eric Werner is of the opinion that the Hatikvah melody is simply based on the Magen Avot Mode (A B C D E F G A) and is an extended version of the older Sephardic Hallel and Tal tunes and the Ashkenazic Yigdal. More recent findings are that the melody is a quote from a Moldavian-Romanian folk song, Carul cu boi (Cart and Oxen) which Samuel Cohen adapted to Naphtali Herz Imber's original Hebrew poem when he settled in the town of Rishon LeZion after moving from Moldava in 1878. There is an excellent article about Hatikvah in Irene Heskes's Passport to Jewish Music. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] (Czech) recordings
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] (Czech) recordings RE: Czech Horn Recordings From the Shameless Promotion Department: Sotone CD 112 features Miroslav Stefek (1916 - 1969), principal horn of the Czech Philharmonic for 27 years, as soloist and with other great Czech horn players. Music on the CD is: Antonio Rosetti: Concerto No. 5 in E-flat for Two Horns and Orchestra with Vladimir Kubat Antonin Reicha: Six Trios for Horns from Op. 82 with Vladimir Kubat and Alexander Cir Vaclav Vincenc Masek: Serenata in Dis with Rudolf Beranek Johannes Brahms: Trio in E-flat, Op. 40. Zdenek Divoky of the Czech Philharmonic wrote an article about Stefek for the Horn Call and allowed it to be used for the notes for this release. Zdenek's notes and mp3 samples of Stefek's playing are at http://www.sotone.com/112-stefek.htm . Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 77, Issue 5
The Beatles - Complete Scores is a book of the complete Beatles songs transcribed from the original recordings into full score by Tetsuya Fujita, Yuji Hagino, Hajime Kubo and Goro Sato. It's my understanding that there are no publications of the original parts, so this is the only score available. The video from Give My Regards to Broad Street is from 1984 while the original song was released in 1966 on Revolver. The 1984 version is also a very different orchestration consisting of string quartet, guitar (McCartney) and horn. The original has electric guitars and bass, drums, keyboard, horn, etc. Does anyone know if the original was in Bb and then pushed up to B by speeding up the tape? Or is it possible that McCartney just wanted to sing it a semitone lower some 18 year after first recording it? It really doesn't matter what the key is. It's a lovely song with a great horn part added for good measure. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.santafechambermusic.com On 2009/05/05, at 2:00, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu wrote: According to The Beatles - Complete Scores For No One is in B major with the horn solo going up to a concert g#. Steve Ovitsky Is that the score in the original key, or a transcription of the recording? :-) Then how do you explain the fingering: 0-1-0 (using thumb valve) for the top 3 notes, at 56 seconds? It looks to me like : [B0] f Cf[F12]a[F0]c-[F1]d-[F0]c Where BO=open Bb horn, F12=12 on high F horn C meaning written c within the stave, c meaning above the stave, for Horn in F. Simon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Schoenberg/Coleman/Philadelphia
Peter wrote: ... I did once send them a request that they acquire the rights to the Dover LP of Rossini quartets with some of Barrows' most beautiful sounding and inspiring playing on it, but they didn't take the hint. Sotone CD109 features John Barrows playing Rossini Quartets Nos. 1 and 6 from that recording. Dover LP 5214 was actually a reissue of Period LP 737 from 1957. Also on the CD are the great Barrows recordings of Mozart's Horn Quintet and the Horn Trio by Brahms. Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Mason Jones
Kendall wrote- Personally, I mourn the loss of regional and international sounds and lament the generic results attained in the recording industry today. It's all about product now, not music, IMHO. I definitely miss performers such as Lucien Thevet, Gottfried von Freiberg, Domenico Ceccarossi, Georges Barbeteau, Aubrey and Dennis Brain, Alan Civil, Vitaly Buyanovsky, and of course, Mason Jones! . When I want to listen to symphonic music, I listen to re-issues of 78's and LP's of the likes of Stokowski, Bruno Walter, Bernstein, Toscanini, Klemperer, von Karajan, Cluytens, etc. When I want to listen to horn soloists from a student perspective these days, I dig out my recordings of Hermann, Dennis and Mason, first. == My former colleague Kendall said it perfectly. The reason I continue restoring and reissuing some of these great horn players' recordings is to preserve the wonderfully varied regional and national styles of horn playing that are now all being homogenized. Sotone Historic Recordings has CDs featuring Mason Jones, John Barrows, Aubrey and Dennis Brain, Gottfried von Freiberg, Miroslav Stefek, Yakov Shapiro, Georges Barboteu, etc.You can hear samples of these recordings at www.sotone.com . There are two new CDs now available, but not yet on the website. CD 114 - Mozart: Sinfonia Concertante, K. 297b and Piano and Wind Quintet, K. 452 with Freiberg and the VPO winds. CD 115 - Georges Barboteu vol. 2 with Schumann Konzertstueck, Haydn Concerto for 2 Horns and 2 Vivaldi Concerti for 2 Horns. Happy listening, Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com 505-231-8212 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Beethoven quintet in E flat
Subject: [Hornlist] Beethoven Quintet in E flat. Bram, Beethoven's Quintet in Eb, H.19 for oboe, 3 horns and bassoon is available from Hans Pizka. http://www.pizka.de/Chamber.htm - catalogue number CK07a. Steve Steven Ovitsky Santa Fe Chamber Music festival www.santafechambermusic.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo, DB recordings
Dennis Brain plays the 1st movement solo in the following recordings of Dvorak's Cello Concerto: Pierre Fournier, cello; Philharmonia Orchestra, Rafael Kubelik, conductor 19 October 1948 Paul Tortelier, cello;Philharmonia Orchestra, Malcom Sargent, conductor 16 June 1955 Janos Starker, cello; Philharmonia Orchestra, Walter Susskind, conductor 12 July 1956 All of these have been reissued on various EMI and Testament CDs. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: For No One
If you had compared this video to the original recording you would notice enough differences in the arrangement and in Alan Civil's playing to not come to that conclusion. Steven Ovitsky Nepthalie Villanueva wrote: And of course,its a movie and maybe jeff is just on a playback of alan civil's recording... ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: For No One
Sorry - I should have written ... not made that suggestion. Steve Ovitsky And of course, its a movie and maybe jeff is just on a playback of alan civil's recording... ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Gershwin
As an addendum to Debbie's note about An American in Paris - Walter Damrosch, conductor of the New York Symphony, commissioned Gershwin's Concerto in F. Gershwin gave Damrosch the right of first refusal for the premiere of An American in Paris for the 1928-29 season. The New York Symphony and the New York Philharmonic boards merged in 1928 and called the new organization the Philharmonic-Symphony Society of New York, which is still the official corporate name of the New York Philharmonic. Damrosch conducted the premiere with the Philharmonic-Symphony on December 13, 1928 in Carnegie Hall. The 1st half of the program consisted of Franck's Symphony in D Minor. The Gershwin was in the middle of the 2nd half, preceded by Lekeu's Adagio for Strings and followed by The Magic Fire Music from Die Walkuere. BTW - I taught a 5 session seminar on Gershwin last September using many rare historic recordings and films. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.santafechambermusic.com === Just as a side note Wikipedia states that American in Paris was a NY Philharmonic commission and in fact they did the premier but no one did the commission. Wikipedia is not always a good source Debbie Schmidt Tisch Center for the Arts ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] L. Kogan recordings?
Kaila wrote: ...I noticed these pieces by L. Kogan for horn + piano ...but I can't find a recording of any of these. Does anyone know of a recording of any of these pieces? Or does anyone have a recommendation for one or the other? Chabad, Kaddish, 'Nigunim' Hassidic Tunes, Prayer = Meir Rimon's recordings of Lev Kogan's Nigunim, Kaddish and Chabad are on an Israeli RCA LP (YJRL1-0001) issued in 1980. Kogan is the pianist. Rimon also recorded Kogan's Tfila and Hassidic Rhapsody with members of the Israel Philharmonic. The CD - Crystal 513 - should still be available. While the published music calls the Nigunim Hassidic tunes, they are mostly Kogan's own very effective short compositions in the nigun (wordless Hassidic melody) style. Yah, Ribon uses the most common Ashkenazi tune for this text and Sholom Aleichem is based on the well-known tune by I. Goldfarb, even though the music states that it is traditional.I've played sections of this work often and think making a short suite of 3 or 4 pieces works best. Kogan's suite Chabad is based on the notes C B A B-flat A D (CHABAD) which in Lubavich Hassidism is the acronym for Chochma (wisdom), Bina (understanding) and Da'at (knowledge). I haven't played it in some years. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.santafechambermusic.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] your 5 mozarts
Leonard Peggy Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you could only have 5 recordings of the Mozart concertos (all 4) which artist would you choose? So far I have 3 on my list: Dennis Brain Aubrey Brain Lowell Greer... == Leonard, I am aware of only two Mozart concerti recorded by Aubrey Brain. No.2. K417, recorded in 1924 with The Royal Symphony Orchestra/Joseph Batten. CD reissue is on Sotone Historic Recordings CD 104. and Concerto No.3, K. 447, recorded in 1940 with the BBC Symphony Orchestra/Sir Adrian Boult. There are various CD reissues including EMI CDH 7 64198 2 and Pearl GEM 0183. If you have Aubrey Brain recordings of K. 412 and K. 495 I would be interested in learning about them. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Antiphonal Brass
Jeff, If I recall, those were Robert King arrangements available at http://www.rkingmusic.com/ Steve Steven Ovitsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Broumas Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:51 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Antiphonal Brass Does anyone know where to get the sheet music for the Gabrieli Antiphonal brass Chicago, Cleveland and Philly brass sections taped in April 1968 ??? Thank you, Jeff Broumas Modesto, CA. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Bach Partita BWV 825
BWV 825 is the keyboard Partita No. 1 in B-flat. It's the one Vince DeRosa recorded in an arrangement with guitarist Laurindo Almeida. Steve Steven Ovitsky Santa Fe Chamber Music festival www.santafechambermusic.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DalleyHN Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:08 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bach Partita BWV 825 I am not sure which partita you are interested since I am not familiar with all of the BWV listings. I presume that 825 are the solo violin partitas. Most familiar is #6 in E major which I believe is published in an edition for solo horn. #1 in g minor I am not sure. As a last resort, obtain the violin part and transpose, probably down a fifth. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Is new okay?
Luke - It should be fine except in the high register. cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Santa Fe Chamber Music festival Subject: [Hornlist] Is new okay? I have a set of Kumho V-710 (205-55-14) that I have used for one season of autocross. With the exception of only one tire, they still have several runs left in them. One of the tires is toast: a section of tread about four inches in diameter peeled off to reveal the cord. I have been trying to find just one used tire so I can get a few more runs out of these tires with little success. Is it okay to purchase just one new tire to complete this set? Would this cause handling problems? Luke Zyla 99 red Ranger 42cs ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Announcing an Award for Horn Players
Announcing an Award for Horn Players ages 19 - 25 There is one Award of $1,200 GOALS AND METHODS Goal: to encourage hornists of exceptional musicality and ability to perform a considerable range of the instrument's repertory. History: This award honors Mrs. Elizabeth Paris, Past President of the National Federation of Music Clubs. 2008 is the first year of the award. Requirements: *The entrant must be an American citizen, born in the US or Naturalized *a student /collegiate member of the National Federation of Music Clubs *submit a completed application Form # ST 15-1 (available on-line or from the chairman) along with a CD *Applications must be received (not postmarked) by April 1, 2008 (Applicants may join the Federation with a $15 fee; instructions on Form.) . The CD must include the following repertory, with piano or original orchestration: * Iain Hamilton: Sonata Notturno (1965) [pub. Schott] * Jos. Haydn: Adagio movement from Concerto No. 2 in D [any edition] * Richard Strauss: Finale from Concerto No. 1 in E-flat, Op. 11 [any edition] * An American's work (applicant included, improvisation ok), of choice [Applicants may contact the Chairman for copies of the Hamilton.] Send Application and CD to A. Robert Johnson, Chairman 105 W. 73rd St #4C New York NY 10023 Ph: (212) 580-9933 Fax: (212) 580-3883 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Application Form: Photocopying permissible/download: www.nfmc-music.org Free ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] re:Auf dem stom
Richard Hirsh wrote: There was a stylistically similar recording made in the late 1970's by Robert Tear with the horn and piano from Nash Ensemble, whose names escape me. Quite satisfying and good German diction. At Sotone Historic Recordings we have an Auf dem Strom with Robert Tear on our Neill Sanders CD. I agree with Richard - it sounds much better with a tenor. You can hear the opening of this recording at http://www.sotone.com/samples/sanders_auf.mp3 It was recorded around 1970 along with Schumann's Adagio and Allegro and the Brahms Trio with members of the Melos Ensemble. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Mpc for Geyer wrap horns
Valerie, Once again, it's not the wrap. What's important in determining an appropriate mouthpiece is the balance of tapers, cylindrical bore and bell size shape all in combination with the player's unique physical characteristics and tonal ideals. Steven Ovitsky If you play a Geyer wrap horn, what mouthpiece do you like? Why? Valerie___ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: John Barrows CD
Hi, With all of the recent posts about John Barrows, I would like to mention my Sotone Historic Recordings release (CD 109) of Barrows playing Mozart Horn Quintet, K.407 with the Fine Arts Quartet Brahms Horn Trio, Op. 40with Szigeti and Horszowski Rossini Two Wind Quartetswith members of the New York Woodwind Quintet These performances from 1957 to 1960 feature prime Barrows with his trademark beautiful sound, elegant phrasing and prodigious technique. The cover photo made available to Sotone by the University of Wisconsin Archives clearly shows him playing his Schmidt. The CD is available at www.sotone.com If you live out of the USA and wish to order, please email first. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Schmid bell flare for sale
I have for sale an Engelbert Schmid bell flare - medium, not lacquered, spun yellow brass in perfect condition. These are now selling for $650 new, but this one is $525 including shipping to the USA. Please contact me off-list for any further information or photos. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Mitch Miller
Bill, I personally don't know about any Miller/Brain performances. However, shortly before he died, Dennis Brain wrote an article entitled About the French Horn in which he mentions Mitch. The repertoire for the French horn, though small, is interesting and varied. It ranges from two Concertos by Haydn, four by Mozart, two by Strauss, to three works by Hindemith - a Concerto, a Sonata with piano, and a Sonata for four horns. Five pieces for five horns by Gunther Schuller (1st horn of the Metropolitan Opera) and a fascinating work by Villa-Lobos for three horns and trombone called Chorus No.4 are very good examples of skilful and imaginative writing. Then there are the unusual Mitch Miller records - The Yellow Rose of Texas (juke box favourite of 1955), and Horn Belt Boogie, to name but two. BTW- I mistyped when mentioning Mitch's upcoming birthday. He'll be 96, not 97, on July 4. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.sfchambermusic.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gross Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:55 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mitch Miller I know this is a little off the original topic, but I do recall reading that Dennis Brain played with Miller during one of his US visits. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Mitch Miller
Tony, Mitch told me that the horn players on Tzena, Tzena (early 1950's) were John Barrows, Jim Buffington, Ray Alonge and Fred Klein. On Mitch's recording of Alec Wilder's Jazz Suite for Four Horns (c. 1953) the players were John Barrows, Jim Buffington, Ray Alonge and Gunther Schuller. BTW - Mitch will be 97 this week. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.sfchambermusic.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Crosse Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 7:41 PM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Mitch Miller Hello Listers, I have found on the internet some recordings going back to about 1948 and onwards of the Mitch Miller band, can any body tell me who the horn players are please. Thanks in anticipation Tony Crosse ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Ligetti horn trio
A superb source for buying horn chamber music is Eble Music in Iowa City. Their website has a good search system, their staff is very helpful when you call and they have a very large stock. www.eble.com telephone (319) 338-0313 Steve Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] NHR - Beethoven #5 video
Hail Caesar! Thanks, David. Steve Ovitsky === David Goldberg sent: Beethoven #5 video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhF-7suDsMmode=relatedsearch= ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] What makes Conns desirable?
Paul Rincon wrote: Schmid Triple (High Eb), Lawson Fourier, and I believe a Hoyer, respectively. answering the question Do you know what Myers, Betts and Bloom now play? Myers plays a Schmid triple high f, not high E-flat. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.santafemusic.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Airplane Art
Subject: [Hornlist] Airplane Art I just received a series of photos of airplane art painted with the name Weiner Philharmonica on the body Sounds like something an Austrian blues man would play. Steve Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Bernhard Heiden
Mara, I got home and checked all of my Jewish music references. Heiden is mentioned in Arthur Holde's 1974 Jews in Music as having escaped Germany in 1935. He was a student of Hindemith and even in 1933, the first year of Nazi rule, he received the Mendelssohn Prize for composition at the Berlin Hochschule für Musik. BTW - I will be giving the last of a series of 3 multimedia lectures on Jewish music in Albuquerque this coming Sunday. The topic is music at Terezin. Anyone interested in attending, please contact me off-list. Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.santafemusic.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mara Cushion Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:37 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Bernhard Heiden Does anyone know of Bernhard Heiden was Jewish? Thanks, Mara ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Schmidt Double Horn For Sale
I have just put up for sale a mint condition Weimar C.F. Schmidt double horn. Photos and a full description of this wonderful instrument are at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMESE% 3AITviewitem=item=150095657905rd=1rd=1 Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.sfcmf.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Schmidt Double Horn For Sale
It sold very quickly. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Manly Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:32 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Schmidt Double Horn For Sale Item has already been removed. - Original Message - From: Steven Ovitsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Schmidt Double Horn For Sale I have just put up for sale a mint condition Weimar C.F. Schmidt double horn. Photos and a full description of this wonderful instrument are at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMESE% 3AITviewitem=item=150095657905rd=1rd=1 Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.sfcmf.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/pmanly%40icehouse.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: 2/23/2007 1:26 PM ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Alec Wilder Centennial
As many of you know, John Barrows was a close friend of Alec Wilder and truly an inspiration to him. Unfortunately for us horn players, Barrows was playing in the Minneapolis Symphony in the late 1930s when Wilder began composing his octets. Wilder wrote that he wished Barrows would come back to New York so he could include horn in other works. This is all a preface to a plug for a free concert in Santa Fe where I am conducting some of Wilder's Octets for flute, clarinet, bass clarinet, oboe, bassoon, harpsichord, bass and drums. The musicians are mix of retired members of major orchestras, local advanced amateur players and community orchestra members. The octets all have wacky titles and are truly charming, elegantly crafted, jazzy pieces. We will play Neurotic Goldfish, Pieces of Eight, Little Girl Grows Up, It's Silk, Feel It, Seldom the Sun, Little White Samba, Such a Tender Night, She'll Be Seven in May, Walking Home In Spring, and Jack, This is My Husband. The concert is on Friday, Jan. 26 at 5:30 PM at the Unitarian Church, 107 West Barcelona, Santa Fe, New Mexico. For more information, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.sfcmf.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] purchasing from the Alexander website
Alexander has a music store at the same location as the factory. The store also sells on-line at https://ssl.kundenserver.de/shop.musik-alexander.de/ Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival Jerry Houston wrote: Do you have reason to believe that they sell products direct to customers online? Lots of companies display products to generate sales, but leave the actual sales up to their authorized dealers. (Many have a dealer locator function on their web sites.) Some simply aren't high-enough-tech to support online orders, but will take an order over the phone. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] RE: The Pope Effect
RE: The Pope Effect Herb and Bill wrote: In the Pacific Northwest they have these geoducks. I don't think Ken's filter works on those deep digging clams. You need a clam gun. In Rhode Island they have the biggest, juiciest clams called Quahogs. Cryogenics works fine on them as long as you don't let them get warm for very long. Of course, a kosher horn never has clams. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.sfcmf.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Bruckner 4th in the 50s
Peter, I've just returned to Santa Fe after a week away. Here is my original post about some 1950s Bruckner 4th recordings to which I've added the edition used. The Leopold Nowak edition of the 1886 version was published in 1953. There was a mid-50s Jochum recording with the Bavarian Radio Symphony on DG using Nowak, but I couldn't find it and omitted it from my post. Most of the post-1950s recordings use the Nowak edition, some still prefer the Haas and no one uses the Loewe anymore. == I checked my library and here are some Bruckner 4th recordings from the 1950s: van Beinum/Concertgebouw 1952 (1881/HAAS) Klemperer /Vienna Symphony Orch 1951 (1881/HAAS) Konwitschny/Czech Philharmonic 1952(1881 /HAAS) Furtwaengler/Vienna Philharmonic (live) 1951 (1888/LOEWE) Knappertsbusch/Vienna Philharmonic 1955 (1888/LOEWE) Matacic/Philharmonia Orch. 1954(1888/LOEWE) Steinberg/ Pittsburgh Symphony 1956 (1888/LOEWE) Not from the '50s but fine performances - Boehm/Saxon(Dresden) Staatskapelle 1936 (1881/HAAS) Walter/Columbia Symphony 1960 (1881/HAAS) Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Peter Hirsch wrote: I've somehow lost the last digest with the request for 1950s Bruckner 4th recordings, so I can't recall who made the request or who (Steve Ovitzky?) replied, but I want to comment that the Lovro von Matacic Philharmonia recording with Brain has the original scherzo that does not at all resemble in any way what we generally know nowadays. This would not be a great choice as one's primary recording, though any serious Brucknerian would be well advised to grab a copy (I think I saw it on the Testament CD label not too long ago). ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Searching: Bruckner 4 Recording
Rachel Harvey wrote: Does anyone know who made a Bruckner 4 recording in the 50's? == I checked my library and here are some Bruckner 4th recordings from the 1950s: van Beinum/Concertgebouw 1952 Klemperer /Vienna Symphony Orch 1951 Konwitschny/Czech Philharmonic 1952 Furtwaengler/Vienna Philharmonic (live) 1951 Knappertsbusch/Vienna Philharmonic 1955 Matacic/Philharmonia Orch. 1954 (Dennis Brain is 1st horn) Steinberg/ Pittsburgh Symphony 1956 = Not from the '50s but fine performances - Boehm/Saxon(Dresden) Staatskapelle 1936 Walter/Columbia Symphony 1960 Cheers, Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Religious Instruments NHR
Good point, Hans. My sources had both spellings and I used one. Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hans Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:39 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Religious Instruments NHR Hello Steven, very interesting, very interesting, but salpinx has to be written this way not salpigx even there is salpingitis in Latin (med.). This is the classical spelling as in Greek language. But the phonetic spelling would be sal-pinx. There we are again. Why to write it the complicate way (salpigx) as there is a simple way (salpinx). === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Ovitsky Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:14 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Religious Instruments NHR With the Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival now underway I am just getting around to some of the posts about biblical references to horn. Klaus and Rachel wrote: The Shofar was a trumpet made out of a ram's horn Yes. The Bible makes hardly any distinction between trumpet and horn. (I wish they'd make up their MINDS :} Jerusalem temple having silver trumpets I'll try to find this out from a Bible scholar I know and I will tell you personally if I do find something. Here is a copy of my post from last September about this same subject. The Hebrew Bible is very specific in differentiating between the shofar and the trumpet. My favorite explanation of instruments mentioned in the Hebrew Bible is by Alfred Sendrey in his Music in Ancient Israel (Philosophical Library, 1969). The metal trumpet (based on Egyptian models) of the Hebrew Bible is called hatzotzera (plural hatzotzerot) and is mentioned 29 times. The hatzotzerah was always used in pairs which explains why the Bible uses the plural except once. Hatzotzerim is the term for the players. The Septuagint - the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible - correctly translates it into Greek as salpigx. The ram's horn, shofar, is mentioned 72 times. The problem is that the Septuagint translates shofar as salpigx 42 times, confusing the two very different instruments; especially since they were used together in parts the ancient Temple services. In Latin, the Vulgate translates shofar 38 times as buccina, 29 times as tuba. It also translates hatzotzera as tuba. When both hatzotzerot and shofrot are mentioned in the same sentence shofar is tuba cornea. Here is a comparison of a line in Psalm 81: Hebrew - Tiku baChodesh shofar Latin - Buccinate in neomenia tuba (listen to the great Latin settings by Schuetz and Gabrieli) English - Blow the trumpet on the new moon Most of the English (King James and I'm sure others) translations are based on the Greek and Latin, not Hebrew. They translate Shofar as trumpe,clarion, trumpet, bugle, etc; and Hatzotzera as trump, trumpet, bugle, cornet, etc. Having fun yet? There's so much more detail and then there's the Christian Bible; but that's not in my area of study. BTW, you can hear my shofar playing on the Naxos CD of Hugo Weisgall's Tekiatot with Gerard Schwarz and the Seattle Symphony. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Religious Instruments NHR
With the Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival now underway I am just getting around to some of the posts about biblical references to horn. Klaus and Rachel wrote: The Shofar was a trumpet made out of a ram's horn Yes. The Bible makes hardly any distinction between trumpet and horn. (I wish they'd make up their MINDS :} Jerusalem temple having silver trumpets I'll try to find this out from a Bible scholar I know and I will tell you personally if I do find something. Here is a copy of my post from last September about this same subject. The Hebrew Bible is very specific in differentiating between the shofar and the trumpet. My favorite explanation of instruments mentioned in the Hebrew Bible is by Alfred Sendrey in his Music in Ancient Israel (Philosophical Library, 1969). The metal trumpet (based on Egyptian models) of the Hebrew Bible is called hatzotzera (plural hatzotzerot) and is mentioned 29 times. The hatzotzerah was always used in pairs which explains why the Bible uses the plural except once. Hatzotzerim is the term for the players. The Septuagint - the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible - correctly translates it into Greek as salpigx. The ram's horn, shofar, is mentioned 72 times. The problem is that the Septuagint translates shofar as salpigx 42 times, confusing the two very different instruments; especially since they were used together in parts the ancient Temple services. In Latin, the Vulgate translates shofar 38 times as buccina, 29 times as tuba. It also translates hatzotzera as tuba. When both hatzotzerot and shofrot are mentioned in the same sentence shofar is tuba cornea. Here is a comparison of a line in Psalm 81: Hebrew - Tiku baChodesh shofar Latin - Buccinate in neomenia tuba (listen to the great Latin settings by Schuetz and Gabrieli) English - Blow the trumpet on the new moon Most of the English (King James and I'm sure others) translations are based on the Greek and Latin, not Hebrew. They translate Shofar as trumpe,clarion, trumpet, bugle, etc; and Hatzotzera as trump, trumpet, bugle, cornet, etc. Having fun yet? There's so much more detail and then there's the Christian Bible; but that's not in my area of study. BTW, you can hear my shofar playing on the Naxos CD of Hugo Weisgall's Tekiatot with Gerard Schwarz and the Seattle Symphony. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Howard Sanner
Howard, I lost your email address and would like to contact you about a very rare vocal recording. Please contact me off list and I'll send the information. Thanks, Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] ARRRHH Matey! NHR
Keelhaul originally meant to discipline by dragging someone under the keel of a boat. Now it also means to give someone a very harsh rebuke. Cheers, Steve Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:19 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] ARRRHH Matey! NHR Doesn't 'keelhaul' mean: toss a drunken or incapacitated sailor into the brig? Kjellrun: scuppers-throw drunken sailor SCUTTLES-pirates sink boat Cabbge: scuppers-is it a word? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Pressure NHR sort of not NHR: one can choose:
Christine Ranson wrote: I know of 2 trumpet players who have blacked out and had their piccs written off whilst performing Arrival of The Queen of Sheba. That's quite a feat, considering that the Arrival of the Queen of Sheba has no trumpets. Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Mahler
Richard V. West wrote: ...Alma Mahler, survived him to consort with the expressionist painter Oskar Kokoschka, later marrying the architect Walter Gropius, then finally wedding Franz Werfel What a woman! Tom Lehrer cleverly told her story in song. Listen to it at: http://www.alma-mahler.at/images/movies/tom_lehrer.mp3 Enjoy, Steven Ovitsky www.sotone.com Alma The loveliest girl in Vienna Was Alma, the smartest as well Once you picked her up on your antenna You'd never be free of her spell Her lovers were many and varied From the day she began her beguine There were three famous ones whom she married And God knows how many between Alma, tell us All modern women are jealous Which of your magical wands Got you Gustav and Walter and Franz The first one she married was Mahler Whose buddies all knew him as Gustav And each time he saw her he'd holler Ach, that is the fräulein I moost hav Their marriage, however, was murder He'd scream to the heavens above I'm writing 'Das Lied von der Erde' And she only wants to make love! Alma, tell us All modern women are jealous You should have a statue in bronze For bagging Gustav and Walter and Franz While married to Gus, she met Gropius And soon she was swinging with Walter Gus died, and her tear drops were copious She cried all the way to the altar But he would work late at the Bauhaus And only come home now and then She said, What am I running, a chow house It's time to change partners again Alma, tell us All modern women are jealous Though you didn't even use Ponds You got Gustav and Walter and Franz While married to Walt she'd met Werfel And he too was caught in her net He married her, but he was carefel 'Cause Alma was no Bernadette And that is the story of Alma Who knew how to receive and to give The body that reached her embalma Was one that had known how to live Alma, tell us How can they help being jealous Ducks always envy the swans Who get Gustav and Walter You never did falter With Gustav and Walter and Franz ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Woodwind Quintets
My quintet in Santa Fe recently performed Conrad J. DeJong's Variations on the Spanish La Folia, published by Josef Marx Music, New York. It's a strong piece with introduction, 8 variations on La Folia, and a final statement of the theme. Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Today Is
George Plimpton got all of the horn information from Bob (A. Robert) Johnson
in New York. Bob was in the New York Philharmonic and is founder and
artistic director of the New York Philomusica. George was on his board of
directors for many years and was one of Bob's close friends.
Cheers,
Steven Ovitsky
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One more Sidd Finch thought, to hold us over until next year: the
excerpt below, from the 1985 Sports Illustrated article, contains some
specific horn information and attitude. Author George Plimpton must
have got this from someone, unless he was himself a closet hornist. Who
was his confederate?
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I have heard many great horn players in my career-Bruno Jaenicke, who
played for Toscanini; Dennis Brain, the great British virtuoso; Anton
Horner of the Philadelphia Orchestra-and I would say Finch was on a par
with them. He was playing Benjamine Breitten's Serenade, for tenor horn
and strings-a haunting, tender piece that provides great space for the
player-when suddenly he produces a big, evocative bwong sound that
seemed to shiver the leaves of the trees. Then he shifted to the rondo
theme from the trio for violin, piano and horn by Brahms-just sensational.
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Re: [Hornlist] Boston Pops
The Boston Pops is part of the Boston Symphony organization and is mostly BSO musicians with some freelancers. The BSO starts performances at Tanglewood this week. The Boston Pops Esplanade Orchestra performs in Symphony Hall in June and July and plays some free concerts at the Hatch Shell on the Charles River Esplanade, including the July 4th production. They also play holiday Pops New Year's Eve concerts in December at Symphony Hall. The Pops Esplanade Orchestra is made up of Boston-area free-lance musicians. Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival -- who also knows that it ain't the Boston Pops, it's the Esplanade Pops, which is not the same group. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] (un)branded JUNK!
Leonard, That's as good as the eBay seller whose ad always reads: This is a gorgeous, genuine 2005 Selman Model #DF11097 - 4 Key Double French Horn. This IS NOT one of those Cheap Imititations of it! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=16215item=7332443191 rd=1ssPageName=WDVW First - What's an imititation? Don't worry, I won't go there but I'm sure the list could come up with some great definitions. Second - Can you even imagine a cheap imitation ILO of a Selman, Schill or Helmke ILO. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky My favorite line from ebay is on the sale of a $24.00 mellophone: SAY NO TO UNBRANDED JUNK-INSIST ON AN ORIGINAL TRISTAR! I guess they want us to insist our junk has a brand on it. LB ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Zirbel to Cincinnati in 2006-'07
Cincinnati Symphony announced the appointment of John Zirbel as principal horn effective 2006-'07. He will play with Cincinnati in 2005-'06 for 18 weeks to fulfill his contract with the Montreal Symphony which has been on strike since May 9. Zirbel has been with Montreal since 1979, is associate professor at McGill University and also on the faculty of the Aspen Music Festival and School. Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival www.sfcmf.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] the natural horn
Bill Gross wrote: How about more work for the Shofar New York composer, Rafael Mostel, recently finished a new piece for brass (4-4-4-1), NIGHT AND DAWN (NACHT EN DAGERAAD), including a brief section for 4 shofarot (with ossia for standard horns using different music - or with additional musicians so both parts can be played simultaneously). It was commissioned for the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra Brass Ensemble to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Netherlands. The RCO brass, together with brass from the Chicago Symphony, gave the world premiere in Orchestra Hall, Chicago on May 3, 2005. Rafael has used shofarot in other compositions as well and always uses them in a non-traditional manner, rather than relying on the tekiah, shevarim and teruah. Hugo Weisgall's Tekiatot uses a solo shofar in the traditional manner within the context of a late 20th century orchestral composition. I am the shofar player on the Naxos CD (8.559425) of Tekiatot with the Seattle Symphony and Gerard Schwarz. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Andromeda Again
Wilbert Kimple wrote: Andromeda is actually the re-named slow movement from the Beethoven Woodwind Quintet. --- The Beethoven Woodwind Quintet is an arrangement by the oboist Albert Andraud of Beethoven's Sextet, Op. 71. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Blasting
Paul A. Kampen wrote: Those old pupils of Paersch's who were still around in the 60s and early 70s used to call this the 'Moss Side ending'. Moss Side is an inner city area of Manchester and I often wonder if that term came from Paersch - you could have heard it over in Moss Side. Paul- The Rusholme ending is even louder and curries farther. Steve Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Mozart vs JMHaydn
Hans, I knew you would bring more light onto the subject. Based on your examinations is it possible to place the date of K447? Cheers, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:50 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart vs JMHaydn Steven, I will try to lift the secret somewhen, if time circumstances will allow. There are modern technical ways, to look behind ink splash or other obscuring entries. The number 3 on the front page is inserted later anyway, so I have to look behind, to know what Mozart wrote first. As I do not have a colour picture of this page (only b/w) I have to improvisate or wait for the new picture. Using Photo Paint you can brush away the new number 3. It works fine. So I discovered things behind another large ink splash. The new technique is amazing. All other dating, well, I cannot believe 100%, as many musicologues have committed so many mistakes, e.g. Einstein saying: this concerto cannot be composed for Leutgeb as it demands a musical understanding exceeding Leutgeb (or similar), all in the context with (said) no.3 concerto. But no.3 concerto (after Andre´s numbering publishing) is our no.4 Concerto K.495. This concerto is part of Mozarts own listing as A horn concerto for Leitgeb. And our no.3 concerto K.447 has the name Leitgeb twice set above the horn line (3rd mov.) by Mozarts own handwriting. Did these people mixe up num,bering or did they not read Mozarts own entries ? No.2 K.417 has Mozarts dedication to Leutgeb on the front page anyway. These facts are not from hear say or reading it somewhere, they are my own eye witness, having the facsimile of the autographs in front of me. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Ovitsky Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 1:17 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Mozart vs JMHaydn I trust you mean K. 447. K. 477 is a vocal work written for soprano Nancy Storace. There is evidence that the traditional date of K. 447, 1783, is incorrect. Some scholars, including Wolfgang Plath and Franz Giegling (NMA), theorize that it is from about 1787 based on the handwriting, Mozart's use of clarinets and bassoons in the orchestration and paper analysis. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival -- WIlliam Botte wrote: JM Haydn Romance for horn and strings dated Aug 30, 1795. JMH borrowed the horn melody almost totally, with some modifications. The arrangement has little or no relation to Mozarts 2nd movement K.477, 1783. See Diletto Musicale 832W.A.Mozart-J.M.HaydnRomance, As dur Fur horn und streichquartettWerner RainerDoblinger, Wein. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Mozart vs JMHaydn
I trust you mean K. 447. K. 477 is a vocal work written for soprano Nancy Storace. There is evidence that the traditional date of K. 447, 1783, is incorrect. Some scholars, including Wolfgang Plath and Franz Giegling (NMA), theorize that it is from about 1787 based on the handwriting, Mozart's use of clarinets and bassoons in the orchestration and paper analysis. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival -- WIlliam Botte wrote: JM Haydn Romance for horn and strings dated Aug 30, 1795. JMH borrowed the horn melody almost totally, with some modifications. The arrangement has little or no relation to Mozarts 2nd movement K.477, 1783. See Diletto Musicale 832W.A.Mozart-J.M.HaydnRomance, As dur Fur horn und streichquartettWerner RainerDoblinger, Wein. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Horn and High Voice pieces
Hi Hans, It's great that you have published so many works for this combination. The Pizka Edition catalogue is a real treasure trove for anyone planning a recital. Re: Amor funesto - thanks for the clarification. I just listed what was on the Sutherland/Tuckwell CD. By time that was recorded in 1987, Sutherland wasn't her old self vocally and I'm sure that her tessitura dropped sufficiently to sing a part for mezzo. best, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:44 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Horn and High Voice pieces Hello Steve, Many of the pieces you mentioned are part of my publications: Panseron, Proch, Donizetti, Skroup, Lachner (Herbst), Nicolai (Traene) , but there is also C.A.Reissiger: vier Lieder for soprano horn, Der wandernde Jagdhornist many others on my list. BTW, the Donizetti you listed Amor funesto is for mezzo. But there are also other lieders by Krebs, Waack, Sponholtz more, all written for soprano horn. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Ovitsky Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:13 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Horn and High Voice pieces RE: Horn and High Voice pieces Chris - The Chace by William Flackton (1709-1798) is a short cantata for solo tenor , horn, strings and continuo. It's published by Birdalone. Britten's Still Falls the Rain for tenor, horn and piano is a great recital piece. BTW, I trust when you say high voice you mean soprano or tenor. Of course you know how to tell if there's a soprano at your door##. Decca's 1987 Sutherland, Tuckwell Bonynge CD of Romantic trios includes: Luigi Denza: J'ai peur de l'aimer Auguste Panserson: Les Nobles Son du cor Conradin Kreutzer: Das Mühlrad Otto Nicolai: Die Träne Heinrich Proch: Das Alphorn Frantisek Skroup: Liebes Tal, warum so stille? Donizetti: L'amor funesto Franz Lachner: Fragen; Frauenliebe und leben (not Schumann) Herbst Friedrich Kücken: Vöglein Massenet: Les yeux clos Amour bénis Most of these trios were edited by John Humphries. Have you checked Nielsen Dalley's superb Horn Catalogue CDR? It's the best repertoire guide available. He lists some other Lachner songs as well. You can also page through the Trio mit Klavier section of Bernhard Brüchle's essential Horn Bibliographie. I found at least 9 listings other than Auf dem Strom and the Pf. reduction of Britten's Serenade. ##She can't find the key and doesn't know when to come in. Happy hunting Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Horn and High Voice pieces
RE: Horn and High Voice pieces Chris - The Chace by William Flackton (1709-1798) is a short cantata for solo tenor , horn, strings and continuo. It's published by Birdalone. Britten's Still Falls the Rain for tenor, horn and piano is a great recital piece. BTW, I trust when you say high voice you mean soprano or tenor. Of course you know how to tell if there's a soprano at your door##. Decca's 1987 Sutherland, Tuckwell Bonynge CD of Romantic trios includes: Luigi Denza: J'ai peur de l'aimer Auguste Panserson: Les Nobles Son du cor Conradin Kreutzer: Das Mühlrad Otto Nicolai: Die Träne Heinrich Proch: Das Alphorn Frantisek Skroup: Liebes Tal, warum so stille? Donizetti: L'amor funesto Franz Lachner: Fragen; Frauenliebe und leben (not Schumann) Herbst Friedrich Kücken: Vöglein Massenet: Les yeux clos Amour bénis Most of these trios were edited by John Humphries. Have you checked Nielsen Dalley's superb Horn Catalogue CDR? It's the best repertoire guide available. He lists some other Lachner songs as well. You can also page through the Trio mit Klavier section of Bernhard Brüchle's essential Horn Bibliographie. I found at least 9 listings other than Auf dem Strom and the Pf. reduction of Britten's Serenade. ##She can't find the key and doesn't know when to come in. Happy hunting Steven Ovitsky * NOTE: An attachment named winmail.dat was deleted from this message because it contained a windows executableor other potentially dangerous file type.Contact the system administrator for more information.--=_NextPart_000_0001_01C51DF3.77019CE0-- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Ein Hundeleben
Have you heard the recording of it with Sir Thomas Bitchem and the Concertgebouwow Orchestra? Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or maybe by Johann Sebastian Bark Paul Mansur Paul ... you may be thinking about the guy that wrote the Star Spaniel Banner. Regards, Jerry in Kansas City ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] proch? lewy?
Divertissements sur des motifs de l'opera Les Huguenottes is by Johann Rudolph Lewy. I trust you're interested because it's dedicated to Gallay. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McBeth, Amy J Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 10:30 AM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] proch? lewy? Ok, I spent some time looking for an answer, but didn't find it quickly, so now I'm just going to be lazy and ask... Prof. Pizka put out a CD in 1996 of Rare romantic pieces for horn, including Divertissements sur des motifs de l'opera Les Huguenottes-- I don't have the CD in front of me and I can't tell from my reference whether the piece was written by Heinrich Proch or Joseph Lewy. Help, please. Thank you. Amy ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sotone%40cybermesa.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Geyer Trademark?
Wes Hatch wrote: I`ve heard that John Lennon copy righted Happy Birthday and that is why chain restaurants sing those hokey birthday songs instead of Happy Birthday. Wes, That's another urban legend. For the full story on the Happy Birthday copyright go to www.snopes.com/music/songs/birthday.htm Thanks again for the great work on the horn. As they say in my new home Santa Fe, New Mexico, carpe manana Steven Ovitsky Executive Director Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] wind octet + flute(s)
It's by Gordon Jacob and published by OUP. It's scored for double wind quintet plus 2 trumpets. Another piece to consider is Chansons et danses, Op. 50 for flute, oboe, 2 clarinets, horn and 2 bassoons by Vincent D'Indy. It's published by Editions Durand. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky www.sotone.com Chris Tedesco wrote: I can't remember the composer correctly off hand, it's either Malcom Arnold, arnold jacobs or gordon jacob(s?), but it's Old Wine in New Bottles . Very cool with great horn parts. Maybe it was Vaughn-Williams. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Baumann and Brahms
I think you are referring to a 1972 LP on the MPS/BASF label # 2021184-3. Joining Baumann are the Bulgarian violinist Stoika Milanova (b. 1945) and American pianist Malcolm Frager (1935 - 1991). The other work on the disc is the Clarinet Trio, Op. 114 with Frager, and Dutch musicians Piet Honingh, clarinet and Anner Bylsma, cello. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com Jeremy Ristow wrote: I was recently told about a recording of Hermann Baumann playing the Brahms horn trio. I've never seen or heard of this recording until now and was wondering if anyone knew any details about its existence (label, catalog #, etc.). Thanks very much. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Horn Ensemble Music
Mike- My arrangement of six movements of Handel's Water Music for 8 horns fits your description. This arrangement was played many times by the horn ensemble at the University of Michigan especially during the years that Louis Stout taught there. It was recently performed by the Milwaukee Symphony horns section plus extras at a pre-concert lecture/demonstration. If anyone is interested in a set of parts, please contact me off list. Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com Mike Rogers wrote: I'm looking for some good horn ensemble music. This music needs to be tonal, with something lik 8-16 parts. In addition, the level of difficulty would be of collegiate level, just under the difficulty of the London HornSound stuff. Any ideas would be greatly apprecitated. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist]
There was some recent discussion of financial scams relating to buying / selling horns over the internet. These email scammers are getting better organized, as you can see by following this link to the 3rd Annual Nigerian Email Conference home page. http://www.j-walk.com/other/conf Too bad the conference is over.LOL Cheers, Steven Ovitsky www.sotone.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Sonata in D Major by George Fredric Handel (trio for 2clarinets and horn.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote RE: Ouverture in D Major by George Fredric Handel (trio for 2clarinets and horn.) ... I was wondering where I could find recordings of this piece so we can get a better picture of the style of this piece. I own 2 recordings. The 1949 Parlophone with Dennis Brain has been reissued on a Japanese CD A Resurrection of Dennis Brain. I'm not sure if it is available in the USA but it may still be available on line from Paxman in London. Claude Maury plays a reproduction of a J. W. Haas natural horn in a CD on the Ricercar label. The number is RIC 049027. Again, I don't know the current availability. Happy hunting, listening and playing, Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Giardinelli Mouthpieces
There was some discussion of Giardinelli mouthpieces this week. I have some mid late to late 1970's Giardinelli mouthpiece underparts that are now for sale. These are classic, vintage Giardinelli purchased in person at the old Manhattan shop. They are all silver-plated and, although barely used, a few have some worn plating on the stem. C1, C4, C6, C8, C15, B8, B10 They are $40 each including shipping within USA. I also have some Moosewood and Lawson underparts for sale. If you are interested please email me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Horn celebrities?
Horn celebrities? Here a few more in line with great music: The German tenor, Fritz Wunderlich (1930-1966), studied horn at the Freiburg Music Academy from 1950 to 1955. I always thought that his amazing breath control and beautiful phrasing came from his horn playing. Just listen to his recordings of Il mio tesoro or Ich baue ganz to hear what I mean. When the American soprano Evelyn Lear (b.1926) was a student at Hunter College, NYU and Juilliard she studied piano, composition, horn, percussion and voice. It was always a treat to hear her in recital, in opera or in concert with orchestra. A great Bluebeard's Castle with husband Thomas Stewart comes to mind as well as an elegant Berg Sieben Fruehe Lieder. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky www.sotone.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] horn in C#
John Putnam wrote: The piece is by Elliott Carter and entitled by a symphony of three orchestras it is a new age piece written in 1967 It was actually written in 1976. This is the first time I've ever heard any work by Carter described as new age. Just don't tell him! LOL Cheers, Steven Ovitsky www.sotone.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Michael Haydn Concerto now Old English Poem
Strange as it may seem now, I took 2 Old English / Middle English Lit courses 35 years ago as an undergrad. The professor was Donald Sands, whose book Middle English Verse Romances (Exeter Medieval English Texts and Studies), is a classic anthology. I pulled a few dusty books off the guest room shelves and looked through some of the Old English poems we studied. þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg is from an anonymous Old English poem Deor and means that passed away: so may this. You can hear it read in Old English at http://www.heorot.dk/deor.html Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Paul Mansur wrote: þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg Ok -- What is this? Welch something? Thanks, Paul Mansur ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Pizka Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:01 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone Misspelled. It is Wimpassing not Windpassing. But there is also Windhaag twice; but Bavaria has better: Tuntenhausen, Busendorf or just accross the Czech Border : As or Asch. The inhabitants are lucky that the letter r is missing. - Just a discussion during the first years of the 12 years Reich. Good morning. My name is Krohn. - Oh, my name is Asch. How much did you pay, to get the R into your name ? - Nothing, they took it away from your name ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Baumgart Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:29 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone You're referring to the Windpassing technique, developed in the Upper Austria village of the same name. John Baumgart ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/stevo%40execpc.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: booze and valves
As for scotchFamous Grouse has become my new favorite. Not expensive and very fine. It's very fine because The Grouse uses Macallan, Glenrothes and Highland Park as its primary malts. If you like TFG blend, try Famous Grouse Vintage Malt if you're in the UK. You'll love it. It's a vatted whisky unfortunately not available here in the USA. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky www.sotone.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Booze
Paul Mansur wrote: Scotch is about half grain alcohol. That's true only for blended Scotch as single malts don't contain grain alcohol. I'm looking forward to a wee dram of Highland Park 18 after practicing tonight. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky www.sotone.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Kid needs teaching
Michael Scheimer wrote: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:25 PM The Brain sound is an acquired taste because he used the world's worst horn ever made. Are you saying that about an Alexander Bb or a Raoux-Millereau? On what do you base your judgment? Steven Ovitsky www.sotone.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] NHR Joe Theisman genius, etc.
Joe Theisman doesn't have the corner on the stupid comments market. Here are some more great lines attributed to politicians, entertainers and other sports celebs. These have been around a while but are still funny. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Question: If you could live forever, would you and why? Answer: I would not live forever, because we should not live forever, because if we were supposed to live forever, then we would live forever, but we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever. --Miss Alabama in the 1994 Miss USA contest -- Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean, I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff. --Mariah Carey Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life. --Brooke Shields, during an interview to become spokeswoman for the Federal anti- smoking campaign --- I've never had major knee surgery on any other part of my body. --Winston Bennett, University of Kentucky basketball forward --- Half this game is ninety percent mental. --Philadelphia Phillies manager, Danny Ozark --- The word genius isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein. --Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback and sports analyst --- Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. --Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, DC - I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the president. --Hillary Clinton, commenting on the release of subpoenaed documents -- That lowdown scoundrel deserves to be kicked to death by a jackass, and I'm just the one to do it. --A congressional candidate in Texas. It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it! --Al Gore, Vice President -- I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix. Dan Quayle --- It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or another. --George W. Bush, US President -- We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need? -- Lee Iacocca I was provided with additional input that was radically different from the truth. I assisted in furthering that version. --Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, from his Iran-Contra testimony -- We don't necessarily discriminate. We simply exclude certain types of people. --Colonel Gerald Wellman, ROTC Instructor. -- If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. --Bill Clinton, US President -- We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur. --Al Gore, Vice President --- Traditionally, most of Australia's imports come from overseas. --Keppel Enderbery - Your food stamps will be stopped, effective March 1992, because we received notice that you passed away. May God bless you. You may reapply if there is a change in your circumstances. --Department of Social Services; Greenville, South Carolina -- If somebody has a bad heart, they can plug this jack in at night as they go to bed and it will monitor their heart throughout the night. And, the next morning, when they wake up dead, there'll be a record. --Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] NHR Joe Theisman genius, etc.
Tom, That's exactly why I wrote attributed in the post. But, of course, if it's on the internet isn't it always true? Cheers, Steve Tom Warner wrote: Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean, I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff. --Mariah Carey Unfortunately, this one isn't true. It was originally part of a made up spoof 'interview' with Mariah. Funny though. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc
So what's your point??? Steven Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com Subject: Re: [Hornlist] horn tone colour metal mpcs kranz bore etc As the english would say, eat my shit Hoss ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Freischuetz
A really great hunting call romp with a horn section featuring Brain and A. Civil is the 1953 Beecham/RPO recording of Mehul's La Chasse du jeune Henri Overture. It's available only on Sotone CD 103. Check it out at http://www.sotone.com/103-Dbrain.htm Steve Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com Hans Pizka wrote: There is also another old recording of the Royal Hunt from Berlioz´ Les Troyens- Sir Beecham conducts the BBC Symphony. I never thought D.B. could play that rough, but it is his old Raoux, which sounds like a poor hunting horn, if over blown. May-be, Sir Thomas had this kind of an idea how hunting horns should sound. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] another identification of players
Hello Hans, The Koussevitzky/BSO Zarathustra recording is from 1935, but I don't have the exact date. The horn section as listed in the BSO program books (according to R. Wayne Shoaf) 1. G. Boettcher 2. Walter MacDonald 3. (vacant or unknown) 4. William Gebhard 5. Willem Valkenier 6. Marcel Lannoye 7. Joseph Singer (became 3rd horn 1936 season) 8. H. Lorbeer Cheers, Steve Hello Steve, you might be able to help, if you have the recording data (year, date, even players) of the following recording HMV D.B.2616 ff R.Strauss: Zarathustra, Boston Symphony under Serge Koussevitzky Superb recording I might ask further questions about Albert Hall Orchestra, but later when I have done the transfer to hard disk. Kindest greetings thanks in advance Hans Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136 D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548 home: www.pizka.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/stevo%40execpc.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] player identification
Toscanini first conducted the BBC Symphony in 4 concerts in June, 1935. - Enigma Variations/ Brahms 4 / Beethoven 7/ Debussy Lamer / Rossini Semiramide, etc. He returned in May and June, 1937 - Beethoven 1 6/ Brahms Tragic Overture/ Next for 6 concerts in May June, 1938 - Verdi Requiem Te Deum/ Beethoven 4 Leonore No. 1/ Mozart Zauberfloete Overture/ In 1952 he went back to London for concerts with the Philharmonia - Brahms 4 symphonies, etc. Aubrey Brain was principal horn on all the BBC SO on the Beethoven 6 and all the other Toscanini recordings that came from the 3 sets of concerts in the '30s. Cheers, Steve Ovitsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Pizka Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:11 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: [Hornlist] player identification Is thee anyone who could identify the horn players on the following recording: Beethoven Sinf.No.6 Pastorale, HMV D.B.-3337 Schellack 78,off course, BBC Symphony, Arturo Toscanini conducting. Might be between 1950-52. rather 1952 when he also conducted the Philharmonia. It is not Dennis Brain. Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136 D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548 home: www.pizka.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/stevo%40execpc.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Vienna Phil.
The early-mid '60s VPO/ Maazel LPs of the Sibelius and Tchaikovsky symphonies have stunning recorded sound in Decca's best tradition. The performances are exciting and the horn playing is as hot as described by Anne. If you liked the Sibelius 1, listen to the Tchaikovsky Symphony 1. Decca have reissued these on CD, but they don't beat the sound of a pristine LP played on a great system. Enjoy, Steve Ovitsky Sotone Historic Recordings www.sotone.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 1:31 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Vienna Phil. Speaking of Vienna Phil, I just heard their recoding of Sibelius 1, under Loren Maazel (sp.?) and their horn section knocked my socks off. Wow! It doesn't get better than that, in my not-so-humble opinion. As many hundres of times I've listened to that particular work, they brought out horn parts I never heard before. They also put real character and expression into the exposed parts, not to mention that tone. Yikes, Horn Heaven! Anne Megenity, principal (don't ask where in FL,USA) - Original Message - From: Robert Fagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Horn List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 12:53 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Vienna Phil. Hi all, The Vienna Phil. played in Dublin last night and would you believe they sang (well croaked and hummed mostly) the William Tell overture as their encore!! Top marks for laughs anyway;) Robert And remember... a friend will help you move, a good friend will help you move a body. Robert Fagan, Moyne Institute, Trinity College, D.2, Ireland. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/amegenity%40comcast.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/stevo%40execpc.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] was Kruspe
You mean Schmid, not Schmidt. There's a big difference. Steven Ovitsky Why has the world gone schimdt crazy? You can hardly get them to blend well with different horns in a section.definately a solo effort.. -- Original Message From: jdelarosa[EMAIL PROTECTED] There was little interest because the world has gone Schmid crazy. Julio de la Rosa ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Leadpipes, Mouthpieces
Timothy A. Johnson wrote: Unless your horn is unusual, you don't need to seal anything with duct tape Sealing your embouchure with duct tapes prevents bad attacks, wrong notes, sloppy slurs, and major intonation problems. Try it. Steve Ovitsky ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Back to the Future - Bizarrely horn related
David Goldberg wrote: And on a related topic, the play Summer and Smoke, by Tennessee Williams features the protagonist's boyfriend walking across the stage with a horn(case). If I remember correctly, there is a scene in A Touch of Class where you can see horns hanging in the window of Paxman's old shop. I think it's when Glenda Jackson George Segal leave a restaurant and walk past the shop. Does anyone remember this scene or is it just an aging imagination? The movie came out in about 1972. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Clean teeth, clean valves
Kruspe does not have an umlaut. Steven Ovitsky I think the word has an umlaut over the u. Germans pronounce this with pursed lips, or so read my German instruction books a generation or two ago. It might be somewhat transliterated as Kryoospeh. I think a German could understand what you said and maybe even spell it correctly. That's sort of close to what I say, I think. Expert? In this instance, Not me, coach! Mansur's conditional Answer On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:04 AM, Simone wrote: I also pronounce Kruspe as Krispy, actually, what's the correct pronunciation? Isn't Krispy correct? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] carry-on limits
Has anyone had an experience flying with a fixed bell horn recently or know anything about the requirements these days? Thanks, Carson This morning I flew from Milwaukee to NYC on Northwest with my fixed bell Geyer in a Paxman case. I had no problems at the X-ray or when boarding. Most of the case fits under the seat in front with some of the bell portion sticking out. I usually wear black pants to mask the part of the case that extends further than the official limit. On recent US Air, Continental and Midwest Express flights I've also had no problems getting a fixed-bell horn on board. My advice - don't draw attention to the horn. Just act as if you always carry it on. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Freedom Horns?
It was pretty easy to measure, at least, a tenor's high range against Ezio Pinza - since he was a bass! Cheers, Steven Ovitsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:25 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Freedom Horns? Yes, I remember Exio. A professional opera singer I knew regarded Mr. Pinza as the tenor to be measured against. Loren Mayhew \@() [EMAIL PROTECTED] (520) 403-6897 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herbert Foster Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:59 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Freedom Horns? That's no surprise. Many English speaking opera singers are impossible to understand when they're singing English operatically. It doesn't have to be so. Broadway show singers are understandable even unamplified. Anyone remember Ezio Pinza? Not even a native English speaker. Herb Foster --- Paul Kampen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Opera North has been doing an audience survey, as we do productions both in the original languages (sometimes with and sometimes without surtitles) and in English. The survey suggested that about 40% prefer the original language with surtitles, 20% original language without surtitles, 30% in English and 10% ENGLISH WITH SURTITLES!!! - work that one out! (Note to Lawrence - we do speak English in Yorkshire). Cheers Paul A. Kampen, 4th horn - Orchestra of Opera North (Leeds UK) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lorenmayhew%40comcast.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/stevo%40execpc.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Freedom Horns?
Paul and List, I just returned from Chicago where I heard a radio advert for the Chicago Opera Theatre production of Brittens Turn of the Screw being sung in English with English surtitles! Cheers, Steven Ovitsky Paul Kampen wrote: Opera North has been doing an audience survey, as we do productions both in the original languages (sometimes with and sometimes without surtitles) and in English. The survey suggested that about 40% prefer the original language with surtitles, 20% original language without surtitles, 30% in English and 10% ENGLISH WITH SURTITLES!!! - work that one out! Cheers Paul A. Kampen, 4th horn - Orchestra of Opera North (Leeds UK) Horn Tutor - Leeds Music College ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] NHR - PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES PLAN FOR NOTE CUT INITIATIVE
PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES PLAN FOR NOTE CUT INITIATIVE Crawford, TX, August 29 (AP)--In an effort to reach out to Constituencies outside his traditional power base, President George W. Bush today announced a new note cut initiative, intended to appeal to classical musicians. Speaking from his ranch in Crawford, Texas, the President prefaced his remarks with some general observations. Music is a good thing. I like music because I like good things, and music is good for America. It's fundamentalistic to the American spirit. Classically-orientated musicians--the ones that play in orchestras, in the churches of this great country of ours, in polka bands, and on the telephone when you're put on hold while calling any one of our Fortune 500 companies--are especially important, because they play a whole lot of notes. And these are good, American notes, that haven't been genetically altered, which Laura and I prize very highly. As I like to say, what you don't know you have can't hurt you if you're not there. The President went on to explain the reasons for his new initiative. For too long these good musical Americans have been playing lots and lots of notes, and haven't been getting anything in return. These notes belong to the American people, and it's time to give some of them back. The administration's plan calls for a one-time refund of 3,000 notes to tax-paying and note-playing American classical musicians. Chamber musicians who play sonatas together in long-standing legal or church-sanctioned relationships are entitled to a refund of 6,000 notes. String quartets will receive a one-time refund of 10,000 notes, as follows: 5,000 for first violinists, 3,000 for second violinists, 1,500 for cellists, and only 500 for violists. Already this arrangement has generated considerable controversy, since it clearly favors the upper instruments. Pianists are entitled to a 15,000-note refund, because in the words of the President, they play lots and lots and lots of notes. Their fingers must be really well oiled. Those digits can really add up, musicologistically speaking. Back in Washington, Democrats are already gearing up for a fight. They point to the plan's inequitable distribution of notes. Citing the latest figures from the music division of the General Accounting Office, they also claim that Bush's initiative is musically irresponsible. Noting recent reports indicating the President's tax refund, in conjunction with the sliding economy, has now effectively erased any budget surplus, they find parallels in Bush's note-cut initiative. They warn ominously that his plan threatens the all-important Musical Security Hemi-, Demi, and Semi-Quaver Reserve. On Friday. Representative Richard A. Gephardt painted a grim picture of what, in Democrats' eyes, the future holds. Giving musicians notes back doesn't mean they're going to use them wisely, and it won't help the nation's musical health. We'd run the very real risk of running out of notes. Imagine, Gephardt continued, a Brahms symphony petering out in performance for a lack of notes. First thing you know, musicians will be leaving out all the fast movements because they don't have enough notes to get through them. Mendelssohn will suffer the most, especially the last movement of the octet. Apprised of Gephardt's remarks on the way to a pig roast at his ranch, President Bush responded, Nope. Not gonna happen. I intend to be the defense, education, and fast-movement president. If Congress minds its musical matters, we'll have enough left for Brahms and the Mendelssohn Octagon, too. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky President and Executive Director Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
[Hornlist] Music Humor - The Wedding Band
THE WEDDING BAND Dear Band Leader: We look forward to your performance at our daughter's wedding. If you don't mind, we would like to request a few of our favorite songs. Please play these during the reception: -A Keith Jarrett composition from his solo series. Please arrange it for ensemble in the key of B, but nothing in 4/4 please. -Mahavishnu Orchestra's Dance of the Maya. And, please have the guitarist play John McLaughlin's solo from the live performance November 16, 1972 at Chrysler Arena. My wife and I were at that show and we liked his use of polyrhythms. -One of John Coltrane's duets with Pharaoh Sanders. Our guests love high register tenor saxes. We thought a little Stravinsky right after the toast would be nice. So, please play The Rite of Spring. We like a tempo of about ¼ note = 93. Please transpose it down three half steps; it will be so much more appropriate for this occasion in the slightly lower register. Then, for the candle lighting ceremony, please play Frank Zappa's The Grand Wazoo. The original key of B-flat would be fine, but my cousin Jeannie would like to sing the baritone sax solo in the key of D - she has kind of a high voice. When my new son-in-law takes off the garter, please play just a little of Varese's Ionization. It's such a funny piece, we think it would go over real well - much better than The Stripper. And, for the bride and groom's first dance, please slow things down a bit by doing Barber's Adagio for Strings. It's so much better than We've Only Just Begun or the Anniversary Waltz. When my wife and I join in the first dance, please segue to Thelonius Monk's Ruby, My Dear. It's in honor of my wife's grandmother, whose name was Ruby. It would mean so much to the family. Thanks for all your help. Depending on the outcome, we'll certainly be happy to recommend your band to our friends. We'll have your check for the fee of $250 (minus our expenses in contacting you: $12.50) by the end of next month. We're a little short as the young lady doing the balloon arch wanted her $1,850 in advance and the DJ had to be paid $2,500 up front. Our daughter assured us that your love of music was greater than your need for money, and that you would welcome the exposure you would get from playing this wedding. Before you leave, please feel free to ask the caterer for a snack sandwich and a soda pop (the bottles are returnable, or you can pay the deposit to the butler). Please use the back entrance to avoid disturbing the guests. We are so happy to be able to help out your band. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
RE: [Hornlist] Conn Schmidt Model Leadpipe
In no particular order: Marv McCoy in Minneapolis may still have some of Dan Rauch's Schmidt leadpipes. Karl Hill in Grand Rapids may be able to fit your horn with one of his Schmidt model pipes. Ron Pinc in Chicago, (Lombard, IL) has made replacement pipes for Schmidts. Hope you find your missing pipe. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Alice Westlund Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Conn Schmidt Model Leadpipe Hello, Children of the Horn! I hope this finds you safe and warm and enjoying the holidays. I have a situation and I need advice. Recently, I had my Conn Schmidt Model horn shipped to a shop and it showed up with a part missing. The horn has a leadpipe that the first 6 or so of the mouthpiece receiver was removeable. I usually had it stuck in a little nylon padded pouch in the case. Somehow, the horn arrived at the shop in fine shape but the mouthpipe was missing. The shop has been searched with no luck. I went to the shipping place today and they said it is not there. Is there some way to get a replacement made If the original can't be recovered ? If I have to get a one-piece leadpipe, where can I get one for a Conn Schmidt Model? Thanx in advance for any and all advice. Merry Christmas to all of you! Mark Westlund Canby, Oregon ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] 2DWK
Mark L. wrote: I bet your 2D is also silver plated and has U.S. or U.S.Q.M.C. engraved somewhere on the bell. What you have is a military model, piston valves with water key(s). These were War Department specifications for horns: single F with Eb and D slides (although I think the requirement for a D slide was eliminated during WWII), nickel silver plate, water key(s) and piston valves. These specs were developed sometime before World War II, but whether in the 20's or the 30's, I am uncertain. - The Conn 2D Wonder Piston Valve F, Eb D (Government Model) was in production from 1919 to 1929. Steven Ovitsky President and Executive Director Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
RE: [Hornlist] Schmidt-style horns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conn and Yamaha both make a Schmidt style horn as well as Dan Rauch. -William The question was who is making Schmidt model horns today. Conn stopped making its Schmidt model in about 1935. Yamaha made its 863 Schmidt model from about 1982-1993. Dan Rauch made a few Schmidt model horns some years ago. Karl Hill (Kortesmaki) is the only maker I know of who now offers a Schmidt model as part of his regular line of instruments. Steve Ovitsky I'm just being curious: who makes these today? I would like to know more about the characteristics of Schmidt (piston change valve)-style horns. Does it depend upon manufacture, or do all Schmidt-style horns have certain common playing characteristics. Thanks. Joyce Maley ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
RE: [Hornlist] Baroque Concerti on Natural Horn
The recordings I recommended are played on regular pitch natural horns. I just assumed that Russ meant natural horns played in the high register. For a high pitch natural horn playing in the high register hear the Telefunken recording of Bach Cantata No.14 with Gustav Leonhardt conducting where Hermann Baumann plays the B-flat alto natural horn in the aria Unsre Staerke heisst zu schwach. It should still be available on CD depending on the current state of Teldec's production. It's worthwhile to hear all of this landmark cycle of Bach cantatas. Recorded throughout the 1970's and into the early 80's, the conducting/ensembles were split between Nikolaus Harnoncourt and Leonhardt. There is some great solo singing and the choruses include Wiener Saengerknaben/Chorus Viennensis, King's College, Toelzer Knabenchor and others. If your introduction to it is only through the horn parts, you'll get to hear some great pioneer natural horn playing by Baumann, Hermann Roehrer, Othmar Berger, Adriaan van Woudenberg, Iman Soeteman, Ab Koster and others. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:horn-admin;music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Prof.Hans Pizka Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 12:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Baroque Concerti on Natural Horn The high baroque concerti were NEVER played on high natural horns, but on regular F- or E-flat- or D-natural horns, but the players had their technique extended to climb up to the 24rth harmonic, which is the written g3 (four ledger lines above staff). It is an absolute false assumptions, that they used special high equipment for the high parts. It was the playing technique only. The Baumann-Haendel is not a transcription, it is one of the double choir organ concertos in F by G.F.Haendel. He just extracted the regular first horn part added the little cadenza up to the high e3 (concert a2). This is no problem on a single high-F-descant. I should be out on CD, but I am not sure. A supern recording, where he did also the Corelli Sonata (violin sonata). .. Russ Smiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I've enjoyed listening to Baroque concertos for trumpet, cello, oboe, horn, etc. I believe that modern horn artists use descant or triple horns for recordings for recordings of Förster, Telemann, etc. I know there are many natural horn recordings of classical works (Mozart, Beethoven, Haydn, etc). Are there recommendable recordings of the Baroque concerti performed with a high, natural horn? Also, a long time ago I owned a Herman Baumann LP that had, I recall, a Handel concerto on it. I think it was a transcription. If remember correctly, the tessitura was very high. Is that recording available on CD? I haven't stumbled upon it yet. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn -- Prof.Hans Pizka email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.: +49 89 903 9548 - www.pizka.de (horn site) with connections to www.pizka.de/Pizka-music.html (publications) - www.pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm (instruments, mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/PizWrHorn.htm (Viennese Horns) - www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm (mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/Pizka-travel.htm (pictures, stories, experiences from my travel) - open soon mail is virus checked ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
RE: [Hornlist] NHR Friday humor: ACTUAL ANSWERS FROM STUDENTS ON MUSIC EXAMS
Subject: ACTUAL ANSWERS FROM STUDENTS ON MUSIC EXAMS Add this one to your list: The Palestinian Motet was an important type of renaissance choral music. Cheers, Steve Ovitsky ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Verdi
Something seems fishy about it, too. Steve Ovitsky Steve Mumford conjectured: one man's meat is another man's poisson Verdi was born during Simeon Poisson's lifetime, but Verdi was Italian and Poisson French, Verdi a musician, Poisson a mathematician. I guess I must be missing the connection. Ted Durant Milwaukee, WI, USA ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn Steven Ovitsky President and Executive Director Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
