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Re: REXX EXEC

[Bri P]

 Christmas = 20081225   
 Weekday = DATE('W',Christmas,'S')  

Brian

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Hi,

I need make one REXX exec to enter with one year the return the day 
christmas of  week.
ex:  year  1978
  day of th week - monday

  year 2000
  day of the week - saturday

  how meke in REXX language?

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Re: Senior project title about MF

[Timothy Sipples]

Sounds really interesting! I'm sure this community will have some good
ideas for you.

Are you expected to write code (to program), or can you use, say, open
source code already written by others? (Is there a minimum amount of code
you're expected to write?) Also, what software environment do you have
available on your university mainframe? By software environment I mean (for
example) z/OS (version and release), z/OS components (for example, do you
have the C/C++ compiler?), DB2 version, IMS TM, IMS DB, MQ, CICS
Transaction Server, etc.

I can think of a lot of ideas already, but it's most important to choose
something that you'd enjoy. Here are some random ideas (with no particular
attempt to assess feasibility):

- Porting the Linux Standard Base (LSB) to z/OS (UNIX System Services),
including one or two sample applications.

- A (secure) instant messaging and/or Voice over IP server for z/OS that
complies with particular protocol standards, to support a wide variety of
clients. Could include a Web-delivered Java applet that clients could
optionally use. The Jabber/XMPP protocol is one example.

- Social networking for z/OS, such as Wiki software and/or blogging
software (Drupal, Scoop, etc.)

- Bring another programming language to z/OS. Most are already available,
though. Possible examples include Tcl and Gambas.

- Bring another relational database to z/OS, such as PostgreSQL or MySQL.

- A secure peer-to-peer file sharing client, server, and catalog system for
z/OS (based on the Bittorrent protocol, for example).

- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BOINC) client for z/OS.

- Adding explicit z/OS support to the Eclipse workbench (for Java and for
the CDT), so developers can perform basic compile/run tasks.

- Bring GNU Dap (statistical analysis package) to z/OS, particularly if it
can support SMF.

- A TeX system for z/OS (such as the XeTex system), an advanced typesetting
and markup language package particularly for scientific and academic
document generation.

- One of the open source Microsoft Exchange replacement servers for z/OS
(such as Zimbra, Scalix, Zarafa, etc.)

- - - - -
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Re: REXX EXEC

[Lindy Mayfield]

Yes, but there is always a simpler solution:

/* Rexx */ 
year=2010  
y=year//100
c=(year-year//100)/100 
mons = 'Sat Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri'   
say word(mons,((y+trunc(y/4)+31+substr(6420,(c//4)+1,1))//7)+1)
exit 0 


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 Christmas = 20081225   
 Weekday = DATE('W',Christmas,'S')  

Brian

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Subject: REXX EXEC

Hi,

I need make one REXX exec to enter with one year the return the day 
christmas of  week.
ex:  year  1978
  day of th week - monday

  year 2000
  day of the week - saturday

  how meke in REXX language?

regards

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Re: Data conversion EBCDIC to ASCII

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/19/2008
   at 08:27 PM, Claudio Marcio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>How do I convert a member with data EBCDIC to ASCII in the TSO
>environment?

You almost certainly don't want to convert to ASCII, but rather to some
code page that matches ASCII for code points 40-FE. Your first step is to
determine which code pages are appropriate for your application. Note that
there are multiple EBCDIC code pages, so you need to determine both the
appropriate input page and the appropriate output page.

There are several different conventions for ending lines. You need to
determine whether you need conversion between two of

End of logical record
EBCDIC NL
CRLF
LF

Read up on iconv.

Once you've done that, the suggestions that others have posted here should
work.
 
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Re: JCL statements not in JCL manual?

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/22/2008
   at 01:10 PM, John McKown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I stand (or sit) corrected. But, in my JCL parser, how would I process
>such a thing?

Well, if you're running on the same system as where it will be converted,
then you could checked what's defined to SJF. Or does some of SJF run in
the Interpreter?
 
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Re: JCL statements not in JCL manual?

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/22/2008
   at 05:09 PM, "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I'm not aware of any supported undocumented statement.

There's an interface for adding new statements and adding new keywords to
existing statements.
 
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Re: Logic in FTP procedure

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/22/2008
   at 11:16 AM, Jrgen Kehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I would like to build a procedure which check the actual date and checks 
>if the latest dataset is available, if yes it should get this one, if no 
>it should get the one from the preceding month.

I've done similar things in a Perl script. If your system isn't too
backlevel then there should be an FTP interface for REXX; I haven't used
it, but I can't imagine that it would be any more difficult than the Perl
equivalent, which is straightforward.
 
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Re: PDS/E and LNKLST concat

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/19/2008
   at 02:58 PM, "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I'm missing the distinction you are trying to oint out,

An overlay structure is a single load module; when you load a segment you
are doing an I/O to the same member as when the module was initially
loaded. If the library is compressed between those I/O's the results are
different from the results of calling a different load module, and
generally more interesting.
 
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Re: Porting a new operating system

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 09/19/2008
   at 03:41 PM, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>If you do have to create a compiler backend, that's some work. But one
>thing you could try, at least for bootstrap purposes, is to keep an
>existing backend but do something like a "double compile." For example,
>if the OpenVMS compiler generates Alpha code (and you can output some
>sort of assembler source format, which is likely), theoretically you
>could write a translator that takes the Alpha code and converts it to
>z/Architecture,

Machine to machine translation is hard to do well, and I wouldn't
recommend that approach for a cross-compiler. BTDT,GTS.
 
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Re: HYPERPAV

[Zaromil Tisler]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:34:05 +0200, John Ticic IBM-MAIN wrote:

>You can also use the SETIOS command.
>
>Once the LCUs have been converted, the other LPARs can't move the aliases
>around. The IBM documentation states that they are ignored.
>
>RMF will show you the LCU and HyperPAV activity. The MVS DEVSERV 
command : D
>M=DEV will give you information about devices. You should see HyperPAV
>devices listed here.

John,

I had problems finding any description about the way HyperPAV works. My 
also assumed that converting the LCU(s) to HyperPAV in one system has 
nothing to do with dynamic aliases in other systems in the sysplex.

Today I eventually got a possibility to test:
- 3 systems (all z/OS 1.9, let's call them WLMA, HPAV, and WLMB) in a sysplex 
in a single CEC (2094)
- IBM DS8000.



HyperPAV set in system HPAV using
  setios hyperpav=yes
Eight jobs start concurrently in WLMA, all writing to the same two devices 
(unit 
addresses 7661 and 7861)



RMF display during the time eight jobs write to the same volume:

--
CPU= 10/ 10 UIC= 65K PR=   0 System= WLMA Delta

11:36:14 I= 0%  DEV ACTV RESP IOSQ -DELAY- PEND DISC CONN %
D %D
STG GRP  VOLSER NUM  PAV  LCU   RATE TIME TIME CMR DB  TIME TIME 
TIME UT RV

 KF7861 7861   5* 006B  3126  1.0  0.1 0.3 0.0  0.4  0.1  0.5 41  0
 KF7661 7661   5* 006A  3125  1.0  0.0 0.3 0.0  0.4  0.1  0.5 41  0

--


 CPU=  7/  7 UIC= 65K PR=   0 System= HPAV Delta

 11:37:04 I= 0%  DEV ACTV RESP IOSQ -DELAY- PEND DISC CONN 
%D %D
 STG GRP  VOLSER NUM  PAV  LCU   RATE TIME TIME CMR DB  TIME TIME 
TIME UT RV

  KF7661 7661 1.0H 006A 0.000  0.0  0.0 0.0 0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0  0
--



DEVSERV display before the jobs were started:

--

IEE421I RO *ALL,DS QP,7661,VOLUM 197
WLMA RESPONSES ---
IEE459I 11.26.14 DEVSERV QPAVS 686
 HOST SUBSYSTEM
 CONFIGURATION  CONFIGURATION
---  -
 UNIT  UNITUA
 NUM. UA  TYPESTATUS SSID  ADDR.   TYPE
- --  --   --
07661 61  BASE   B760   61 BASE
  1 DEVICE(S) MET THE SELECTION CRITERIA
HPAV RESPONSES ---
IEE459I 11.26.14 DEVSERV QPAVS 196
 HOST SUBSYSTEM
 CONFIGURATION  CONFIGURATION
---  -
 UNIT  UNITUA
 NUM. UA  TYPESTATUS SSID  ADDR.   TYPE
- --  --   --
07661 61  BASE-H B760   61 BASE
  1 DEVICE(S) MET THE SELECTION CRITERIA
WLMB RESPONSES ---
IEE459I 11.26.14 DEVSERV QPAVS 843
 HOST SUBSYSTEM
 CONFIGURATION  CONFIGURATION
---  -
 UNIT  UNITUA
 NUM. UA  TYPESTATUS SSID  ADDR.   TYPE
- --  --   --
07661 61  BASE   B760   61 BASE
--



DEVSERV display about half an hour later:

--

IEE421I RO *ALL,DS QP,7861,VOLUM 388
WLMA RESPONSES ---
IEE459I 11.52.41 DEVSERV QPAVS 947
 HOST SUBSYSTEM
 CONFIGURATION  CONFIGURATION
---  -
 UNIT  UNITUA
 NUM. UA  TYPESTATUS SSID  ADDR.   TYPE
- --  --   --
07861 61  BASE   B780   61 BASE
078AB AB  ALIAS-7861 B780   AB ALIAS-61
078AC AC  ALIAS-7861 B780   AC ALIAS-61
078AD AD  ALIAS-7861 B780   AD ALIAS-61
078B7 B7  ALIAS-7861 B780   B7 ALIAS-61
  5 DEVICE(S) MET THE SELECTION CRITERIA
HPAV RESPONSES ---
IEE459I 11.52.41 DEVSERV QPAVS 387
 HOST SUBSYSTEM
 CONFIGURATION  CONFIGURATION
---  -
 UNIT  UNITUA

Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[R.S.]

Linda Mooney wrote:

We are finishing up our cutover to a BusTech virtual tape appliance.  We will 
be de-installing our old ATL (about 12 years old) and our even older 3480 
drives.  We will still have a need to read and write some physical 3480 and 
3490e tapes for the next several years, just not a lot of them.  About 6-8 
drives would be plenty.  Does anyone have/know of anything that might work for 
us?  We have a z800, all ESCON channels.


Why don't you keep your existing hardware?
It's cheap - you already paid it
It's working - you currently use it
If you need to save floor space, then you can reduce the size of your 
ATL (eiliminate some cabinets) or just keep only the drives and controller.


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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[Rugen, Len]

Look for a 3490-C22.  

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Re: Setting up PR/SM for very small Capacity LPARs on Fast Processors

[Arthur Gutowski]

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:34:35 -0400, Knutson, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>We have to figure out what we will be doing as we replace our smallest CEC 
with a z10 for the smallest LPARs as well.

z/VM?

Seriously, we'll be having similar discussions, here.  We have several tiny 
JES2 
systems running alongside some comparatively huge JES3 systems and a habit 
of keeping LPARs to an established "MIPS (or MSU) rating", though we've been 
advised keeping an LPAR under 3-5% of the box can be counterproductive.

I would be interested in talking to you offline on this - our z10 was going in 
September, then October, now likely November.

Regards,
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Ford Motor Company ITI

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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 9/24/2008 7:05:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It's cheap - you already paid it
It's working - you currently use  it
If you need to save floor space, then you can reduce the size of your  
ATL (eiliminate some cabinets) or just keep only the drives and  controller.


>>
Won't it depend on the service contract terms  and limitations? In the olden 
days with yearly renewals the maintenance  provider would jack up the price on 
old equipment so that it was cheaper to  outsource than to
maintain.
 
There are some chameleon products about, but  don't know the availability or 
support implications for OP.








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Re: JCL statements not in JCL manual?

[John McKown]

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:34:11 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, if you're running on the same system as where it will be converted,
>then you could checked what's defined to SJF. Or does some of SJF run in
>the Interpreter?
>
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In general, it may not be running on the same system. This is actually a
project that I am doing simply to learn how to use "flex" and "bison" to
write a "compiler". So I decided to "compile" JCL to XML. I would like to
parse as much of the JCL as I can. I could do the suggestion about
considering all "JCL" between a // CNTL and // ENDCNTL as "instream" data
and not parse it at all.

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Re: Setting up PR/SM for very small Capacity LPARs on Fast Processors

[R.S.]

Arthur Gutowski wrote:
[...]
Seriously, we'll be having similar discussions, here.  We have several tiny JES2 
systems running alongside some comparatively huge JES3 systems and a habit 
of keeping LPARs to an established "MIPS (or MSU) rating", though we've been 
advised keeping an LPAR under 3-5% of the box can be counterproductive.


What does it mean "counterproductive" ?
Assuming you really need the system and the system need in MSU is really 
small you can do the following:
1. Assign small percentage (I've seen even sub-percent weights) despite 
it is "counterproductive"
2. Assign more power than it needs. Of course unused cycles will still 
be used by other LPARs if needed.

3. Look for another (smaller) CPC.

Did I miss something?

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Re: Senior project title about MF

[Ron Wells]

may want to focus on software and hardware relationshipmay want to 
notice how the mainframeibmtoday is merging the p/i/z 
hardwareover time there will not be a diffand all operating 
systems will run on them and it will depend on the need to the company to 
pick the best fit and function to run...as well as the cost??
but that is changing as wellthe Computer Assoc types will be 
eliminated for charging so must just because it is on a 
mainframe...questions like--if written in java/html...and runs 
anywhere...then why price diff. if only on z vs iseries..

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Re: REXX EXEC

[P S]

This is simpler? Three lines to replace one?

I'd hate to see your definition of "cheaper" ... :-)

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Lindy Mayfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, but there is always a simpler solution:
>
> /* Rexx */
> year=2010
> y=year//100
> c=(year-year//100)/100
> mons = 'Sat Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri'
> say word(mons,((y+trunc(y/4)+31+substr(6420,(c//4)+1,1))//7)+1)
> exit 0
>
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>  Christmas = 20081225
>  Weekday = DATE('W',Christmas,'S')

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Re: Setting up PR/SM for very small Capacity LPARs on Fast Processors

[Mark Zelden]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:46:56 -0500, Arthur Gutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:34:35 -0400, Knutson, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>We have to figure out what we will be doing as we replace our smallest CEC
>with a z10 for the smallest LPARs as well.
>
>z/VM?
>
>Seriously, we'll be having similar discussions, here.  We have several tiny
JES2
>systems running alongside some comparatively huge JES3 systems and a habit
>of keeping LPARs to an established "MIPS (or MSU) rating", though we've been
>advised keeping an LPAR under 3-5% of the box can be counterproductive.
>
>I would be interested in talking to you offline on this - our z10 was going in
>September, then October, now likely November.
>


With the scalability of the various z10 (and z9) models, I don't understand
why this is an issue.  Aren't the 4xx models an option?

BTW, we've had a 2 engine penalty box that was a z900, then z9 and soon 
to be z10.  The 3 smallest LPARs (plus a sandbox LPAR) have always run
with a single CP and we've never had a problem on those LPARs due to
the single engine.   As I mentioned in an earlier post, we've had 4:1 (or 
higher) LP to CP ratios on that box.

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Re: Senior project title about MF

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/24/2008
   at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title?

What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered
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Re: REXX EXEC

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
09/24/2008
   at 01:13 PM, Lindy Mayfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Yes, but there is always a simpler solution:

"things should always be as simple as possible, but no simpler."

Yes, I know that we'll all be dead by the time that it breaks, but it's
actually easier to do it in a more robust form.
 
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Re: Size Of SQA At Next IPL

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/19/2008
   at 03:29 PM, "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>It's possible to have UCW without corresponding UCB (and UCB without UCW 
>as well). First case may be desired configuration and not an error.

The second case may be legitimate as well, e.g., for VIO.
 
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Re: PDSE(1)_BUFFER_BEYOND_CLOSE & PDSE(1)_HSP_SIZE

[Mark Zelden]

>>Actually OA21934 only mentions PDSE_BUFFER_BEYOND_CLOSE(NO) but it
>>looks like it should also mention PDSE1_BUFFER_BEYOND_CLOSE(NO).
>>
>

The APAR text has been updated to include PDSE1_BUFFER_BEYOND_CLOSE.

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Re: Size Of SQA At Next IPL

[Scott Rowe]

There is no need for a dummy UCB for VIO.

>>> "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/24/2008 7:53 AM >>>
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/19/2008
   at 03:29 PM, "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>It's possible to have UCW without corresponding UCB (and UCB without UCW 
>as well). First case may be desired configuration and not an error.

The second case may be legitimate as well, e.g., for VIO.

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Re: Senior project title about MF

[David Andrews]

On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 17:57 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote:
> - Bring another programming language to z/OS.

... or to Linux on z.  I'd vote for SBCL.

> - Bring another relational database to z/OS, such as PostgreSQL or MySQL.

Seems to me we'd be better off with a free development environment (FSVO
"free").  We could use a gcc for z/OS, as well as a glibc.  That would
have a snowball effect, and would make porting of applications to z/OS
more palatable.

> - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BOINC) client for z/OS.

Considering what we pay per z/OS MSU, that's an expensive search for ET.

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Re: Senior project title about MF

[John McKown]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:58:41 -0400, David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>Seems to me we'd be better off with a free development environment (FSVO
>"free").  We could use a gcc for z/OS, as well as a glibc.  That would
>have a snowball effect, and would make porting of applications to z/OS
>more palatable.
>
>> - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BOINC) client for z/OS.
>
>Considering what we pay per z/OS MSU, that's an expensive search for ET.
>
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I wish that the entire GNU toolchain would be ported. It would be the
you-know-what out of what IBM supplies with z/OS. However, porting GCC would
likely never be done because that would compete with IBM's own C compiler.
Also, I get the definite impression that, at least for the z/OS system, IBM
does not really like the GPL. I think this because everything that I've seen
ported by them is BSD licensed, or some other license which allows them to
keep their modifications proprietary (closed source). "Just say NO! to OCO!"

I actually had the arrogance to think that I might be able to do so. I had a
sort-of sponsor in IBM who thought he could get me an ADCD license. However,
that died the instant that I said that Hercules/390 would be my platform. I
couldn't afford even the least expensive FlexES system. 

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IBMLink is broken again?

[Field, Alan C.]

A couple of us can get as far as logging on but then get an "Our
apologies ..." screen.

 

Internal server error 500. 

 

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Re: IBMLink is broken again?

[Veilleux, Jon L]

I was on IBMLINK but now I get the 'Our apologies...' screen. 


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A couple of us can get as far as logging on but then get an "Our
apologies ..." screen.

 

Internal server error 500. 

 

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Re: IBMLink is broken again?

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Field, Alan C.
> 
> A couple of us can get as far as logging on but then get an 
> "Our apologies ..." screen.
> 
>  
> 
> Internal server error 500. 

Same here (Chicago).  "Green screen" still works (as usual)

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Re: IBMLink is broken again?

[Farley, Peter x23353]

IBMLINK isn't the only thing that's down.  z/OS Library pages are also
down:

http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/

gives "Our apologies.  The page you requested cannot be displayed." with
the same "500 Internal server error" message.

DOS attack on IBM web pages or genuine server problem?

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> > A couple of us can get as far as logging on but then get an
> > "Our apologies ..." screen.
> > Internal server error 500.
> 
> Same here (Chicago).  "Green screen" still works (as usual)
> 
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Re: IBMLink is broken again?

[Thompson, Steve]

Same here in the DFW area for me.


"IBMLINK isn't the only thing that's down.  z/OS Library pages are also
Down"


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Re: IBMLink is broken again?

[John McKown]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:37:15 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>IBMLINK isn't the only thing that's down.  z/OS Library pages are also
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>
>http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/
>
>gives "Our apologies.  The page you requested cannot be displayed." with
>the same "500 Internal server error" message.
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http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves

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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[Hal Merritt]

I would observe that this perception might be more superstition and
ancient legends than factual 
:-)

Find the right person at your business partner and propose a change in
media/transport. I'll bet a virtual brew that you'll be met with cheers
and jubilation more often than not. Why? Because they are hanging onto
old media because they think that's all -you- can support. Moving to a
modern media could save them money as well. 

Finding the right person is key because operations types often lack the
skills/authority to make the simple JCL adjustments. So. When your
contact insists that only antique media is supported, ask for
escalation. I heard of one case where the 3480 folks had no idea that
the shop was very big into FTP. 

I would watch out for shops investing in a complicated labor intensive
multi hop FTP solution with store and forward servers. Some auditors are
uneasy because the data exists in the clear as it passes through these
servers.

HTH 

Hal 


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Subject: Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

Thanks, and we are going to thin down our physical tape supply to our
newer media.  We actually need to be able to write new datasets to 3480
and to 3490e physical tapes.  We will have to sontinue to send out tapes
to outside vendors and customers until contracts expire and customers
are willing/able to accept FTP.

Linda 

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> Perhaps your best bet would be to copy them to new media. The media 
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> 
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> Subject: 3480/3490 tape devices 
> 
> We are finishing up our cutover to a BusTech virtual tape appliance.
We 
> will be de-installing our old ATL (about 12 years old) and our even 
> older 3480 drives. We will still have a need to read and write some 
> physical 3480 and 3490e tapes for the next several years, just not a
lot 
> of them. About 6-8 drives would be plenty. Does anyone have/know of 
> anything that might work for us? We have a z800, all ESCON channels. 
> Thanks, 
> Linda Mooney 
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Re: IBMLink is broken again?

[Knutson, Sam]

http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink is down
IBMLink help desk at 1-800-543-3912 confirms this.
SEV1 ticket being opened # not currently available from IBMLink help desk.  No 
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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 9/24/2008 9:41:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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Some auditors are
uneasy because the data exists in the clear as it  passes through these
servers. 


>>
My suspicion is that there are nefarious  agents planted in
mail rooms and courier services to look for MF  tapes. The really 
good ones advanced have copiers that look like a Walkman and can  transfer a 
tape to memory
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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[John McKown]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:41:22 -0500, Hal Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I would observe that this perception might be more superstition and
>ancient legends than factual
>:-)
>
>Find the right person at your business partner and propose a change in
>media/transport. I'll bet a virtual brew that you'll be met with cheers
>and jubilation more often than not. Why? Because they are hanging onto
>old media because they think that's all -you- can support. Moving to a
>modern media could save them money as well.

We have a 3490-C22 just for this. But it, to me, seems to be mainly because
most in my group are not comfortable with using FTP or CD distribution of
products. We are used to getting fixes via email. But not entire products. I
get all my z/OS PTFs via download from ShopzSeries. I may do my next z/OS
order that way too. And Compuware supplied their latest release on a CD with
a "front end" program which made it dead simple to upload to z/OS. Very nice.

Our other tape medium in 3592J carts. Which are very expensive!

>
>Finding the right person is key because operations types often lack the
>skills/authority to make the simple JCL adjustments. So. When your
>contact insists that only antique media is supported, ask for
>escalation. I heard of one case where the 3480 folks had no idea that
>the shop was very big into FTP.

We just converted our last "file transfer" user from our 3745 to encrypted
ftp. Now we can get rid of the 3745 (which we own), NCP and SSP. A nice savings.

>
>I would watch out for shops investing in a complicated labor intensive
>multi hop FTP solution with store and forward servers. Some auditors are
>uneasy because the data exists in the clear as it passes through these
>servers.

Which is way ALL files which come in from the outside must be encrypted at
our shop.

>
>HTH
>
>Hal

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Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

[Gilbert Cardenas]

The operators have an HSM tape that has gone missing.  I want to mark the 
tape full so nothing new gets added to it because HSM is still calling for the 
tape to probably add to it.
I found the following notes in the HSM reference :

Marking a Migration Level 2 Tape Volume Full Example: In this example, a 
migration level 2 tape volume is marked full. The MARKFULL parameter does 
not delete the volume. DELVOL MIG003 MIGRATION(MARKFULL)

The DELVOl makes me nervous.  Has anyone done this before and can vouch 
that the volume is not deleted but only marked as full?

Thanks,
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Re: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

[Rugen, Len]

Works as advertized.


Len Rugen

"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in
practice, there is." 
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The operators have an HSM tape that has gone missing.  I want to mark
the 
tape full so nothing new gets added to it because HSM is still calling
for the 
tape to probably add to it.
I found the following notes in the HSM reference :

Marking a Migration Level 2 Tape Volume Full Example: In this example, a

migration level 2 tape volume is marked full. The MARKFULL parameter
does 
not delete the volume. DELVOL MIG003 MIGRATION(MARKFULL)

The DELVOl makes me nervous.  Has anyone done this before and can vouch 
that the volume is not deleted but only marked as full?

Thanks,
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Re: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

[Staller, Allan]

HSEND DELVOL XX MIGRAT(MARKFULL).

There will be no probems.

HTH


The operators have an HSM tape that has gone missing.  I want to mark
the 
tape full so nothing new gets added to it because HSM is still calling
for the 
tape to probably add to it.
I found the following notes in the HSM reference :

Marking a Migration Level 2 Tape Volume Full Example: In this example, a

migration level 2 tape volume is marked full. The MARKFULL parameter
does 
not delete the volume. DELVOL MIG003 MIGRATION(MARKFULL)

The DELVOl makes me nervous.  Has anyone done this before and can vouch 
that the volume is not deleted but only marked as full?


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Re: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

[Gilbert Cardenas]

Thanks for the confirmation Len and Allen.  Worked like a charm.

Best regards,
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Re: Senior project title about MF

[P S]

Do a *complete* port of cURL, including libcurl!

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/24/2008
>   at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>>Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title?
>
> What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered
> mainframe related? Would it be of the appropriate level of difficulty?
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Re: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

[O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]]

Delvol Markfull will only mark the tape full so that HSM stops appending to it. 
(I know this has already been answered. I include only for completeness.)

Now to the rest of your problem - Are your tapes duplexed? If yes, you issue a 
Taperepl command against the missing tape. Now all pointers the the missing 
tape will be directed to the duplexed tape and you may resume recalling data as 
necessary.

If the tape is not duplexed, you need to do the following (unless you're sure 
you will never need this data)

List the contents of the tape using the following:
HSEND LIST DSN MCDS SELECT(VOLUME(nn)) ODS('tsouid.nn')

Edit the ODS Hdelete all data sets on the tape and execute
Then edit the ODS again to Hrecover all of the datasets and execute.
Then either edit the ODS again to Migrate what was just recovered or let nature 
take its course.


From: Gilbert Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

The operators have an HSM tape that has gone missing.  I want to mark the
tape full so nothing new gets added to it because HSM is still calling for the
tape to probably add to it.
I found the following notes in the HSM reference :

Marking a Migration Level 2 Tape Volume Full Example: In this example, a
migration level 2 tape volume is marked full. The MARKFULL parameter does
not delete the volume. DELVOL MIG003 MIGRATION(MARKFULL)

The DELVOl makes me nervous.  Has anyone done this before and can vouch
that the volume is not deleted but only marked as full?

Thanks,
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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[Greeley, Kevin]

Apologies if you've already seen this:

"IBM plans to discontinue delivery of software on 3480, 3480 Compressed
(3480C), and 3490E tape media. IBM recommends using Internet delivery
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handling. If you must use physical delivery, you may continue to choose
3590 or 3592 tape media. Internet delivery is IBM's flagship delivery
method; therefore, future software delivery enhancements will be focused
on Internet delivery."

Kevin.

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Re: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

[Lizette Koehler]

Just a thought.

HSM may be trying to do a RECALL from that tape.  That is another reason HSM 
maybe asking for it.

Lizette


>
>The operators have an HSM tape that has gone missing.  I want to mark the 
>tape full so nothing new gets added to it because HSM is still calling for the 
>tape to probably add to it.
>I found the following notes in the HSM reference :
>
>Marking a Migration Level 2 Tape Volume Full Example: In this example, a 
>migration level 2 tape volume is marked full. The MARKFULL parameter does 
>not delete the volume. DELVOL MIG003 MIGRATION(MARKFULL)
>
>The DELVOl makes me nervous.  Has anyone done this before and can vouch 
>that the volume is not deleted but only marked as full?
>>

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Re: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

[Ulrich Krueger]

DELVOL ... MARKFULL is safe to execute and the only way out of this misery.

ML2 tapes are a precious commodity, because they contain the only copy of a
migrated dataset (unless a backup copy also exists). Therefore you should
have duplicates (or should I say: "you _better_ have duplicates").

So, if you have an alternate / duplicate ML2 tape ...
In addition to the DELVOL MIG003 MIGRATION(MARKFULL) command you also want
to do these commands to press the duplicate volume into service and to
recover from this lost tape situation without data loss:
- TAPEREPL ORIGINALVOLUMES(MIG003)
>From now on, dataset recalls from ML2 written to MIG003 will request the
alternate tape to be mounted.
- RECYCLE EXECUTE VOLUME(MIG003)  
This will mount the alternate volume, copy contents to a new ML2 tape and
create a new alternate volume, too. The MCDS is updated and all datasets
pointing to tape MIG003 will now point to the new ML2-tape volume. Tapes
MIG003 and its alternate volume will be returned to scratch status. If tape
MIG003 is ever found again (or if you decide to label a new tape MIG003), it
can be used in response to a scratch - mount request for a ML2 tape

HTH
Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gilbert Cardenas
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 08:44
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Subject: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

The operators have an HSM tape that has gone missing.  I want to mark the 
tape full so nothing new gets added to it because HSM is still calling for
the 
tape to probably add to it.
I found the following notes in the HSM reference :

Marking a Migration Level 2 Tape Volume Full Example: In this example, a 
migration level 2 tape volume is marked full. The MARKFULL parameter does 
not delete the volume. DELVOL MIG003 MIGRATION(MARKFULL)

The DELVOl makes me nervous.  Has anyone done this before and can vouch 
that the volume is not deleted but only marked as full?

Thanks,
Gil.

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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[John McKown]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:02:52 +0100, Greeley, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Apologies if you've already seen this:
>
>"IBM plans to discontinue delivery of software on 3480, 3480 Compressed
>(3480C), and 3490E tape media. IBM recommends using Internet delivery
>when ordering your z/OS products or service, which eliminates tape
>handling. If you must use physical delivery, you may continue to choose
>3590 or 3592 tape media. Internet delivery is IBM's flagship delivery
>method; therefore, future software delivery enhancements will be focused
>on Internet delivery."
>
>Kevin.
>

I hadn't seen that. Thanks. I forwarded it to my manager. The fecal material
is likely to impact the air moving device.

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CICS DFHRPLConcatenation

[Donnelly, John P]

..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they 
still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation?


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Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation

[Gibney, Dave]

Yup

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..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must
they still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation?


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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[Gibney, Dave]

And no smiley :) 

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Re: IBMLink is broken again?

[Farley, Peter x23353]

And now the library pages are back again.

Thanks for the bookshelf link, it's good to have an alternate way in.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of John McKown
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:41 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBMLink is broken again?
> 
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:37:15 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >IBMLINK isn't the only thing that's down.  z/OS Library pages are
also
> >down:
> >
> >http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/
> >
> >gives "Our apologies.  The page you requested cannot be displayed."
with
> >the same "500 Internal server error" message.
> >
> 
> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves
> 
> is still working OK.


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Res: REXX EXEC

[Mic Jones]

You can use DATE() to do that.

Ex.:
xmdate = x

Hi Claudio.

You can use DATE() to do that.

Ex.:
xmdate = xmyear'1225' /*where xmyear is year in four digit format*/
xmwday = DATE('W', xmdate, 'S')

 
 
Regards
 
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De: Claudio Marcio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 24 de Setembro de 2008 1:21:21
Assunto: REXX EXEC

Hi,

I need make one REXX exec to enter with one year the return the day 
christmas of  week.
ex:  year  1978
  day of th week - monday

  year 2000
  day of the week - saturday

  how meke in REXX language?

regards


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From: "Paul Gilmartin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: Calling Assembler module from REXX


> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:38:38 -0500, Dave Day wrote:
>
>>Suggestions:
>>
>>1)make the assembler routine re-entrant.  Successive LOADS will up the use
>>count, but not actually bring in a new module.
>>
>>2)pass the called routine a parm that says this is a successive call, not
>>the 1st.
>>
>>3)if you can't do #2 above, take a look at NAME/TOKEN services.
>>
>>4)if you can't do #3 above, create another load module that is not
>>re-entrant.  Just a csect that is all 0's.  Have the 1st routine search 
>>the
>>CDE chain for the non re-entrant one.  Set indicators in the non 
>>re-entrant
>>dummy 0's load module that tells the other one what the status of things
>>are.
>>
> All good ideas.  For a variant of #2 with some influence from #4,
> let the Rexx routine supply the working storage for the called
> routine, initialized before the first call.  See the use of
> "ChainingVector" in SYS1.SAMPLIB(CSFTEST) for an example of the
> Rexx side of this technique.
>
> But none of these deal with the deficiency that Rexx LINKPGM/ATTCHPGM
> will LOAD and DELETE even a REFReshable load module for each
> invocation.  This causes unwelcome overhead for large numbers
> of invocations.  So, perhaps:
>
> 5) Put the routine in LPA if permitted.
>
> Would there perhaps be Rexx interfaces to LOAD and DELETE
> on CBTTAPE (or similar) so the routine could be LOADed and
> DELETed only once?
>
> Would TSO-REXX supply better advice?
>
> -- gil
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Re: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

[Gilbert Cardenas]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:02:55 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Delvol Markfull will only mark the tape full so that HSM stops appending to 
>it. 
(I know this has already been answered. I include only for completeness.)
>
>Now to the rest of your problem - Are your tapes duplexed? If yes, you issue 
a Taperepl command against the missing tape. Now all pointers the the missing 
tape will be directed to the duplexed tape and you may resume recalling data 
as necessary.
>
>If the tape is not duplexed, you need to do the following (unless you're sure 
you will never need this data)
>
>List the contents of the tape using the following:
>HSEND LIST DSN MCDS SELECT(VOLUME(nn)) ODS('tsouid.nn')
>
>Edit the ODS Hdelete all data sets on the tape and execute
>Then edit the ODS again to Hrecover all of the datasets and execute.
>Then either edit the ODS again to Migrate what was just recovered or let 
nature take its course.
>
>

The datasets on this tape are just TMM point-in-time backups so we don't 
back them up or duplex them since they are really "expendable".  I don't 
believe HSM was trying to recall any dataset but simply appending to the tape 
which is why I wanted to mark it full to avoid any more problems trying to 
locate it.
I appreciate the thoroughness of your answer though.

Gil.

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Article on z/OS on Intel, sort of.

[John McKown]

http://www.interopnews.com/analysis/how-to-make-a-killing-in-the-mainframe-market.html

Actually, it is more about how IBM has captured the zArch and thus z/OS
market. It seems to bemoan the fact that there is not, and likely never will
be, a competitor which can run z/OS and thus run z/OS legacy applications
natively. The author does mention T3 and PSI in passing.

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Re: REXX EXEC

[Mansell, George R.]

A mod 400 year is also a leap year. 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:13 AM
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Subject: Re: REXX EXEC

Yes, but there is always a simpler solution:

/* Rexx */ 
year=2010  
y=year//100
c=(year-year//100)/100 
mons = 'Sat Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri'   
say word(mons,((y+trunc(y/4)+31+substr(6420,(c//4)+1,1))//7)+1)
exit 0 


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Sent: 24. syyskuuta 2008 11:37
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Subject: Re: REXX EXEC

 Christmas = 20081225   
 Weekday = DATE('W',Christmas,'S')  

Brian

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Behalf Of Claudio Marcio
Sent: 24 September 2008 05:21
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: REXX EXEC

Hi,

I need make one REXX exec to enter with one year the return the day 
christmas of  week.
ex:  year  1978
  day of th week - monday

  year 2000
  day of the week - saturday

  how meke in REXX language?

regards

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Re: Article on z/OS on Intel, sort of.

[Lindy Mayfield]

Excellent read.

Two questions came to mind. I tried to think of another mainframe
besides IBM's.  Only Sperry and Unisys came to mind.  I had to look in
wikipedia to see if they still exist.  I think so.

And when reading about the marriage of the operating system to the z
hardware, I wondered if this was somehow different from the Mac.  Anyone
know if/how it is?

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Sent: 24. syyskuuta 2008 20:21
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Subject: Article on z/OS on Intel, sort of.

http://www.interopnews.com/analysis/how-to-make-a-killing-in-the-mainfra
me-market.html

Actually, it is more about how IBM has captured the zArch and thus z/OS
market. It seems to bemoan the fact that there is not, and likely never
will
be, a competitor which can run z/OS and thus run z/OS legacy
applications
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Re: REXX EXEC

[Lindy Mayfield]

But it doesn't matter if it is a leap year for the month of December, is
that right?

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Behalf Of Mansell, George R.
Sent: 24. syyskuuta 2008 21:07
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Subject: Re: REXX EXEC

A mod 400 year is also a leap year. 

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Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:13 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: REXX EXEC

Yes, but there is always a simpler solution:

/* Rexx */ 
year=2010  
y=year//100
c=(year-year//100)/100 
mons = 'Sat Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri'   
say word(mons,((y+trunc(y/4)+31+substr(6420,(c//4)+1,1))//7)+1)
exit 0 


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 Christmas = 20081225   
 Weekday = DATE('W',Christmas,'S')  

Brian

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Sent: 24 September 2008 05:21
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: REXX EXEC

Hi,

I need make one REXX exec to enter with one year the return the day 
christmas of  week.
ex:  year  1978
  day of th week - monday

  year 2000
  day of the week - saturday

  how meke in REXX language?

regards

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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[Linda Mooney]

We did look at keeping the existing devices, but like many others we are in a 
space/power/cooling crunch for our raised floor.  Plus with the age and mileage 
on this equipment the maintenance costs are increasing, then add in the costs 
of reducing the size of the ATL, the bottom line dictates replacement.  

Thanks,

Linda

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> us? We have a z800, all ESCON channels. 
> 
> Why don't you keep your existing hardware? 
> It's cheap - you already paid it 
> It's working - you currently use it 
> If you need to save floor space, then you can reduce the size of your 
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Re: REXX EXEC

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield
> 
> But it doesn't matter if it is a leap year for the month of 
> December, is that right?

The day of week calculation would be off by one if the leap year is
ignored.

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Re: Article on z/OS on Intel, sort of.

[John McKown]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:12:14 +0200, Lindy Mayfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>And when reading about the marriage of the operating system to the z
>hardware, I wondered if this was somehow different from the Mac.  Anyone
>know if/how it is?

It is similar. Apple will only license Mac OSX on Apple hardware. There is a
company, being sued by Apple, which has developed a way to run OSX on a
"white box" Intel machine. This violates the license agreement that Apple
imposes when you buy OSX.

The main difference is that IBM "owns" both the hardware and software.
Whereas Apple is using Intel hardware with some auxiliary hardware and BIOS
changes.

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Re: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

[O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]]

Gilbert,

You indicate that these are just TMM backups but if your ML2 tapes are set to 
'REUSE" how do you segregate this ML2 tape from your Secondary Space Mgt.? Just 
curious.


From: Gilbert Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:08 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mark HSM migrat2 tape as full

The datasets on this tape are just TMM point-in-time backups so we don't
back them up or duplex them since they are really "expendable".  I don't
believe HSM was trying to recall any dataset but simply appending to the tape
which is why I wanted to mark it full to avoid any more problems trying to
locate it.
I appreciate the thoroughness of your answer though.

Gil.

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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[Linda Mooney]

No problemo.  For us, our pysical tape needs are driven by our customers.  I am 
already using internet delivery for IBM products and some of our ISVs.  Some of 
our suppliers don't have internet delivery available yet.

Thanks,

Linda

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Re: REXX EXEC

[Lindy Mayfield]

Hmmm. I checked it with quite a number of years going back to 1200
against calendars and didn't find any errors yet.  Anyway, it was just a
mental exercise.  Why should the C and Perl people get all the fun? 

The Rexx date function is of course the far superior solution.

lindy

#!/usr/local/bin/perl -s do
r=1;$_=substr($_."\0"x$w,$c=0,$w);s/.|\n/$c=&badd(&bmul
($c,256),ord$&)/ge;$_=$k;s/./$r=&bmod(&bmul($r,$r),$x),$&?$r=&bmod(&bmul
($r,$c ),$x):0,""/ge;($r,$t)=&bdiv($r,256),$_=pack(C,$t).$_
while$w--+1-2*$d;print}

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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield
> 
> But it doesn't matter if it is a leap year for the month of 
> December, is that right?

The day of week calculation would be off by one if the leap year is
ignored.

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Re: REXX EXEC

[Mark Zelden]

I used my rdate exec / rdatef function prior to OS/390 2.4 (when the
REXX built in DATE function was enhanced to convert between date
formats).  I still do use it at times because the built in function doesn't
support some to / from formats.   

  http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsfiles/rdate.txt
  http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsfiles/rdatef.txt

But this exercise didn't take any conversion.  

Speaking of simple, how about this one:

/* rexx */  
/* The following was provided by Mark Barnett, Stanford   */
/* Linear Accelerator Center: */

/* DAY EXEC -- Given a Gregorian date, returns its weekday*/
/*  (U.S:  Gregorian 9/14/1752 followed 9/2/1752 O.S.--Old Style) */
/*  (CACM, 10/72, p. 918; Computerworld, 2/11/80, p. 30)  */
/* Accepts m d y with blank, /, or - as separators.  Two-digit*/
/*  years are prefixed with 19 (leading 0's are permitted).   */
/* May be appended to another REXX exec, for use as an internal   */
/*  routine, by "uncommenting" the "Procedure" statement. */

DAY: /* Procedure; */ Signal on SYNTAX; ret=0; n="ARG"()
Arg a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, bad; s=a1 a2 a3 a4 a5; args=s bad   
If n>5 | a1='?' Then Signal "SYNTAX"; If a1='' Then s="DATE"('USA') 
s="TRANSLATE"(s,'  ','/-'); Parse var s m d y bad   
If bad^='' Then Signal 'SYNTAX'; If "LENGTH"(y)=2 Then y='19'y  
/* m=month d=day y=year (m and y are adjusted during computation) */

y=y+(m-14)%12   /* Adjust month, year; March = month 1 of its */
m=(m+9)//12+1   /*   year, February = month 12 of previous.)  */
m="TRUNC"(2.6*m-.1) /* Month residue, using Zeller's Congruence   */
c=y%100; y=y//100   /* century, year-within-century temporaries   */

i=(d+m+y+y%4+5*c+c%4-c%40)//7+1 
/* | | |  |   |   |   ||  > magic from the sky (initial day)  */
/* | | |  |   |   |   |> modulo 7 days/week   */
/* | | |  |   |   |   > century years div. by 4000 are not leap   */
/* | | |  |   |   > most century years div. by 400 are leap years */
/* | | |  |   > days/century adjustment: (100+24)*c = 5*c (mod 7) */
/* | | |  > one day for each (non-00) leap-year-within-century*/
/* | | > one day for each year-within-century:  365 (mod 7) = 1   */
/* | > residual days (mod 28) in previous months (+2) -- Zeller   */
/* > day of the month */

w.1='Sunday';   w.2='Monday'; w.3='Tuesday'; w.4='Wednesday'
w.5='Thursday'; w.6='Friday'; w.7='Saturday'; result=w.i

RETURN:  Parse SOURCE . s2 s3 . 
 If s2='COMMAND' & s3='DAY' Then Do 
  If result^='' Then Say result; Return ret; End
/*  Return result  */   
 say result 
 Return 

SYNTAX: Say 'From DAY, called with following argument(s):' args 
 Say ' '
 Say 'DAY returns the day of the week for an input date.'   
 Say ' '; Say '  DAY   '; Say ' ' 
 Say 'where:'; Say ' '  
 Say '  is the number of the month (January is 1, etc.), and'
 Say 'is the day of the month,'
 Say '   is the year.'; Say ' '   
 Say 'Characters / and - are valid separators for the arguments.  A'
 Say "two-digit  is assumed to imply a '19' prefix.  If there"
 Say "are NO arguments, today's date is assumed.  A leading '?' or" 
 Say 'an argument error yields this message.  DAY also 

Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation

[John Hamman]

ABSOLUTELY



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>>> "Donnelly, John P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/24/2008 11:35:34 AM >>>
..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they 
still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation?


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VATLST00

[Kurt Eastwood]

Hello,
 
I would like to pass a situation by everyone to get their opinon of an issue I 
am having. I have opened an issue with IBM but many heads are better than 1.
 
We are getting some new dasd and after the dasd is installed I am to run an 
ICKDSF REFORMAT with the REFVTOC parm against all the dasd, per the dasd 
manufacturer.
 
I tested this on a test machine against a few volumes and found that my MVSCAT 
volume is mounted as STORAGE and the ICKDSF does not like this, it wants it 
mounted PRIVATE. This is the only volume mounted as STORAGE. My VATLST00 is as 
follows:
 
VATDEF IPLUSE(PRIVATE),SYSUSE(PRIVATE)
MVSCAT,1,0,3390    ,Y 
DLIB02,1,2,3390    ,Y 
DLIB03,1,2,3390    ,Y 
MVSDLB,1,2,3390    ,Y 
MVSRES,1,2,3390    ,Y 
TARG02,1,2,3390    ,Y 
TARG03,1,2,3390    ,Y 

I took over this system from someone else and do not know why this was set up 
to be mounted STORAGE. 
 
It looks like I could shut down the system, ipl a stand alone ICKDSF and run 
the REFORMAT but that seems like a last resort to me.
 
The system master catalog does reside on MVSCAT as do other data sets.
 
Is there a reason to have this mounted as STORAGE?
 
Are there system datasets that are required to be on a volume mounted STORAGE?
 
Can I change this MVSCAT to be mounted as PRIVATE and re-ipl without causing 
issues since it has been this way for a while?
 
Is there a requirement to have at least one volume mounted as STORAGE in 
VATLST00?
 
Thanks to everyone in advance for your help.
Kurt
 
 




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Re: VATLST00

[Mark Zelden]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:53:59 -0700, Kurt Eastwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello,
> 
>I would like to pass a situation by everyone to get their opinon of an
issue I am having. I have opened an issue with IBM but many heads are better
than 1.
> 
>We are getting some new dasd and after the dasd is installed I am to run an
ICKDSF REFORMAT with the REFVTOC parm against all the dasd, per the dasd
manufacturer.
> 
>I tested this on a test machine against a few volumes and found that my
MVSCAT volume is mounted as STORAGE and the ICKDSF does not like this, it
wants it mounted PRIVATE. This is the only volume mounted as STORAGE. My
VATLST00 is as follows:
> 
>VATDEF IPLUSE(PRIVATE),SYSUSE(PRIVATE)
>MVSCAT,1,0,3390    ,Y 
>DLIB02,1,2,3390    ,Y 
>DLIB03,1,2,3390    ,Y 
>MVSDLB,1,2,3390    ,Y 
>MVSRES,1,2,3390    ,Y 
>TARG02,1,2,3390    ,Y 
>TARG03,1,2,3390    ,Y 
>
>I took over this system from someone else and do not know why this was set
up to be mounted STORAGE. 
> 
>It looks like I could shut down the system, ipl a stand alone ICKDSF and
run the REFORMAT but that seems like a last resort to me.
> 
>The system master catalog does reside on MVSCAT as do other data sets.
> 
>Is there a reason to have this mounted as STORAGE?
> 
>Are there system datasets that are required to be on a volume mounted STORAGE?
> 
>Can I change this MVSCAT to be mounted as PRIVATE and re-ipl without
causing issues since it has been this way for a while?
> 
>Is there a requirement to have at least one volume mounted as STORAGE in
VATLST00?
> 
>Thanks to everyone in advance for your help.
>Kurt
> 
> 



At least one volume needs to be mounted public or storage for temporary
data sets in order to logon to TSO.  If SMS is controlling temporary 
data sets, then this is not a requirement.  So it probably has its place
in history and is not needed.

You can change it with a mount command - no need to IPL.

M /cuua,VOL=(SL,MVSCAT),USE=PRIVATE   

Don't forget to change the VATLST assuming this doesn't cause
a problem.

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Re: VATLST00

[Field, Alan C.]

You didn't say what release of z/OS you're on, or whether you have SMS active. 

This is our VATLSTxx member (one line):

VATDEF IPLUSE(PRIVATE),SYSUSE(PRIVATE)

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt 
Eastwood
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 14:54
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: VATLST00

Hello,
 
I would like to pass a situation by everyone to get their opinon of an issue I 
am having. I have opened an issue with IBM but many heads are better than 1.
 
We are getting some new dasd and after the dasd is installed I am to run an 
ICKDSF REFORMAT with the REFVTOC parm against all the dasd, per the dasd 
manufacturer.
 
I tested this on a test machine against a few volumes and found that my MVSCAT 
volume is mounted as STORAGE and the ICKDSF does not like this, it wants it 
mounted PRIVATE. This is the only volume mounted as STORAGE. My VATLST00 is as 
follows:
 
VATDEF IPLUSE(PRIVATE),SYSUSE(PRIVATE)
MVSCAT,1,0,3390    ,Y 
DLIB02,1,2,3390    ,Y 
DLIB03,1,2,3390    ,Y 
MVSDLB,1,2,3390    ,Y 
MVSRES,1,2,3390    ,Y 
TARG02,1,2,3390    ,Y 
TARG03,1,2,3390    ,Y 

I took over this system from someone else and do not know why this was set up 
to be mounted STORAGE. 
 
It looks like I could shut down the system, ipl a stand alone ICKDSF and run 
the REFORMAT but that seems like a last resort to me.
 
The system master catalog does reside on MVSCAT as do other data sets.
 
Is there a reason to have this mounted as STORAGE?
 
Are there system datasets that are required to be on a volume mounted STORAGE?
 
Can I change this MVSCAT to be mounted as PRIVATE and re-ipl without causing 
issues since it has been this way for a while?
 
Is there a requirement to have at least one volume mounted as STORAGE in 
VATLST00?
 
Thanks to everyone in advance for your help.
Kurt
 
 


  

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Re: VATLST00

[Kurt Eastwood]

We are running z/OS 1.8 and SMS is active.
Kurt


--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Field, Alan C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Field, Alan C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VATLST00
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:03 PM

You didn't say what release of z/OS you're on, or whether you have SMS
active. 

This is our VATLSTxx member (one line):

VATDEF IPLUSE(PRIVATE),SYSUSE(PRIVATE)

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kurt Eastwood
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 14:54
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: VATLST00

Hello,
 
I would like to pass a situation by everyone to get their opinon of an issue I
am having. I have opened an issue with IBM but many heads are better than 1..
 
We are getting some new dasd and after the dasd is installed I am to run an
ICKDSF REFORMAT with the REFVTOC parm against all the dasd, per the dasd
manufacturer.
 
I tested this on a test machine against a few volumes and found that my MVSCAT
volume is mounted as STORAGE and the ICKDSF does not like this, it wants it
mounted PRIVATE. This is the only volume mounted as STORAGE. My VATLST00 is as
follows:
 
VATDEF IPLUSE(PRIVATE),SYSUSE(PRIVATE)
MVSCAT,1,0,3390    ,Y 
DLIB02,1,2,3390    ,Y 
DLIB03,1,2,3390    ,Y 
MVSDLB,1,2,3390    ,Y 
MVSRES,1,2,3390    ,Y 
TARG02,1,2,3390    ,Y 
TARG03,1,2,3390    ,Y 

I took over this system from someone else and do not know why this was set up
to be mounted STORAGE. 
 
It looks like I could shut down the system, ipl a stand alone ICKDSF and run
the REFORMAT but that seems like a last resort to me.
 
The system master catalog does reside on MVSCAT as do other data sets.
 
Is there a reason to have this mounted as STORAGE?
 
Are there system datasets that are required to be on a volume mounted STORAGE?
 
Can I change this MVSCAT to be mounted as PRIVATE and re-ipl without causing
issues since it has been this way for a while?
 
Is there a requirement to have at least one volume mounted as STORAGE in
VATLST00?
 
Thanks to everyone in advance for your help.
Kurt
 
 


  

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Some help with SMS

[Dave Day]

I need some SMS help. I've never had to mess with it before, and don't have 
a clue.  If there is a quick and dirty way to get what I need done, I'd 
appreciate someone givimg me some help.
I've just migrated from a 1.6 Flex-es system to IBM's RDP system.  Running 
1.9.  SMS is active.  I've got 8, 3390  volumes defined that I want to use.  
Questions.  How do I tell SMS to use those volumes for non-specific dasd 
allocations?  And, how do I tell SMS to leave some other volumes alone?   
Give me the steps I have to go through.  I tried hitting the manuals, but 
really don't know where to start.  TIA.

--Dave Day

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Re: Some help with SMS

[John McKown]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:27:24 -0500, Dave Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I need some SMS help. I've never had to mess with it before, and don't
have a clue.  If there is a quick and dirty way to get what I need done, I'd
appreciate someone givimg me some help.
>I've just migrated from a 1.6 Flex-es system to IBM's RDP system. 
Running 1.9.  SMS is active.  I've got 8, 3390  volumes defined that I want
to use.  Questions.  How do I tell SMS to use those volumes for non-specific
dasd allocations?  And, how do I tell SMS to leave some other volumes alone?   
>Give me the steps I have to go through.  I tried hitting the manuals,
but really don't know where to start.  TIA.
>
>--Dave Day

First question: Do you really want to use SMS? It does make most things
nicer, but it is not required. You could just use the volumes "as is" by
allocating your datasets using UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=volser or via ISPF 3.2. If
you need to allocate without specifying a specific volser, you can use the
MOUNT command to mount one or more volumes as STORAGE. (M
/dev,VOL=(SL,volser),USE=STORAGE).

There is not any "quick and dirty" way that I am aware of. First, you must
define some ACS routines (DATACLAS, MGMTCLAS, STORCLAS, and STORGRP). These
are kept in a standard FB/80 type PDS as source. You must then use the ISMF
dialog to create one or more DATACLAS definitions, one or more MGMTCLAS
definitions, or or more STORCLAS definations, and one or more STORGRP
definations. 

The DATACLAS ACS routine should assign a DATACLAS to every dataset.

The MGMTCLAS ACS routine must assign a MGMTCLAS to every SMS managed dataset.

The STORCLAS ACS routine must assign a STORCLAS to every SMS managed dataset.

The STORGRP ACS routine must assign a STORGRP for every STORCLAS.

Once that is done, then you define each volser that you want to be SMS
managed to a single STORGRP. This, again, is done via the ISMF application.

Once you have entered all of that, and "translated" your ACS routines (ISMF
application again). You must ACTIVATE your new SMS configuration.

There is not really a "quick and dirty" way to do this. Again, do you really
want SMS for some reason?

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VOLID starting with ##

[Ward, Mike S]

Hello all, I tried searching the archives for VOLID starting with ##,
and volume id ##, but didn't get any hits. We have from time to time had
cataloged datasets that have the volid as ## Where the ## are really
##'s and the ? are some assortment of characters. This has been going on
for years and we can't seem to figure out where they come from. Do  any
of you have any idea's as to where we might look.

 

Thanks.

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Re: Some help with SMS

[Dave Day]

No, I don't really want SMS for any reason.  I tried IPL'ing with the SMS 
sub-system not getting started, and had numerous problems when running.  So, 
I'm back to having SMS active.  Since it is active, it must have some or all 
of the functions you defined all ready in place.  It would seem to me I just 
have to find them, and modify them.



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Re: Some help with SMS

[Mark Zelden]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:27:24 -0500, Dave Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I need some SMS help. I've never had to mess with it before, and don't
have a clue.  If there is a quick and dirty way to get what I need done, I'd
appreciate someone givimg me some help.
>I've just migrated from a 1.6 Flex-es system to IBM's RDP system. 
Running 1.9.  SMS is active.  I've got 8, 3390  volumes defined that I want
to use.  Questions.  How do I tell SMS to use those volumes for non-specific
dasd allocations?  And, how do I tell SMS to leave some other volumes alone?   
>Give me the steps I have to go through.  I tried hitting the manuals,
but really don't know where to start.  TIA.
>


The place to start would be the DFSMS Introduction and the DFSMS
Implementing System-Managed Storage manuals. 

I  have a softcopy of a Redbook called: 
DFSMS IMPLEMENTATION PRIMER SERIES: WRITING ACS ROUTINES  
GG24-3403-01 

It is from 1991 but is a great tutorial.  I know all that information is also 
in the DFSMS manuals, but this is should be easier to learn from.  It is
what I used to learn SMS when I first started playing with it.

I've never been able to find it on the web. Someone sent me the softcopy
I have (I don't recall who - thanks).  I also still have the hard copy.

LMK if you want it and I'll send it your way.

Mark
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Re: VOLID starting with ##

[John Kington]

Mike,

> Hello all, I tried searching the archives for VOLID starting with ##,
> and volume id ##, but didn't get any hits. We have from time to time had
> cataloged datasets that have the volid as ## Where the ## are really
> ##'s and the ? are some assortment of characters. This has been going on
> for years and we can't seem to figure out where they come from. Do  any
> of you have any idea's as to where we might look.
>
If you can narrow down the timeframe, you might find the culprit looking at
SMF type 62 records. If you don't have anything handy, Dataset Audit
Facility (DAF) on the CBT tape at cbttape.org could be used. It would be
much easier to scan for the dsn that to build your own tool to search smf
data.
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Re: Some help with SMS

[John McKown]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:45:33 -0500, Dave Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>No, I don't really want SMS for any reason.  I tried IPL'ing with the SMS
>sub-system not getting started, and had numerous problems when running.  So,
>I'm back to having SMS active.  Since it is active, it must have some or all
>of the functions you defined all ready in place.  It would seem to me I just
>have to find them, and modify them.
>

Most likely what you have is what is called an "SMS minimal configuration".
That's where the SMS address space is active, but not really doing anything.
What is the output from the z/OS command:

D SMS

? That will tell you the name of your ACDS, SCDS, and COMMDS datasets. You
can then go into the ISMF application and look at what is defined in the
"ACTIVE" configuration. There is likely not much.

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Re: Some help with SMS

[Mark Zelden]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:45:33 -0500, Dave Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Since it is active, it must have some or all
>of the functions you defined all ready in place.  It would seem to me I just
>have to find them, and modify them.
>

Not necessarily.  SMS must be active in at least a null configuration for 
some other things to function.   Even if not a null configuration, it could
be a minimal configuration (just for PDSE & HFS which had to be SMS
controlled prior to OS/390 2.6+PTFs).

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Re: VATLST00

[Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]]

Can you use the Mount command to change the usage to private

M ,VOL=(SL,MVSCAT),USE=PRIVATE  where  is the unit address

We run SMS and still have a storage volume.  It is used by temporary data sets 
that fall outside SMS assignment.  For us one such product is HCD.  It 
allocates a log file that does not fit our naming standards, but instead of 
trying to fix it we just let it allocate to the storage volume.  


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Eastwood
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:54 PM
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Subject: VATLST00

Hello,
 
I would like to pass a situation by everyone to get their opinon of an issue I 
am having. I have opened an issue with IBM but many heads are better than 1.
 
We are getting some new dasd and after the dasd is installed I am to run an 
ICKDSF REFORMAT with the REFVTOC parm against all the dasd, per the dasd 
manufacturer.
 
I tested this on a test machine against a few volumes and found that my MVSCAT 
volume is mounted as STORAGE and the ICKDSF does not like this, it wants it 
mounted PRIVATE. This is the only volume mounted as STORAGE. My VATLST00 is as 
follows:
 
VATDEF IPLUSE(PRIVATE),SYSUSE(PRIVATE)
MVSCAT,1,0,3390    ,Y
DLIB02,1,2,3390    ,Y
DLIB03,1,2,3390    ,Y
MVSDLB,1,2,3390    ,Y
MVSRES,1,2,3390    ,Y
TARG02,1,2,3390    ,Y
TARG03,1,2,3390    ,Y 

I took over this system from someone else and do not know why this was set up 
to be mounted STORAGE. 
 
It looks like I could shut down the system, ipl a stand alone ICKDSF and run 
the REFORMAT but that seems like a last resort to me.
 
The system master catalog does reside on MVSCAT as do other data sets.
 
Is there a reason to have this mounted as STORAGE?
 
Are there system datasets that are required to be on a volume mounted STORAGE?
 
Can I change this MVSCAT to be mounted as PRIVATE and re-ipl without causing 
issues since it has been this way for a while?
 
Is there a requirement to have at least one volume mounted as STORAGE in 
VATLST00?
 
Thanks to everyone in advance for your help.
Kurt
 
 


  

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Re: Senior project title about MF

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 09/24/2008
   at 08:00 AM, Ron Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>and all operating systems will run on them

That's not going to happen. The platforms for, e.g., WXWX VIII, GCOS, MCP,
Multics are too different.
 
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Re: Senior project title about MF

[John McKown]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:00:15 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>on 09/24/2008
>   at 08:00 AM, Ron Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>>and all operating systems will run on them
>
>That's not going to happen. The platforms for, e.g., WXWX VIII, GCOS, MCP,
>Multics are too different.
>
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The OP probably meant all IBM operating systems. I.e. z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE,
AIX, i5/OS, Linux (z/, p/, and i/).

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Re: Senior project title about MF

[Ahmet Alper TECİMER]

There is no constraint. To write a TSO version of OOREXX would be considered 
mainframe related but i think it is difficult. Actually, i want to make a 
career as a mainframe system administrator.  So I prefer to choose my 
project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is gaining 
experience.

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/24/2008
  at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title?


What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered
mainframe related? Would it be of the appropriate level of difficulty?

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Re: Some help with SMS

[Dave Day]

? You can then go into the ISMF application and look at what is defined in 
the

"ACTIVE" configuration. There is likely not much.


OK, how do I do that?  Below is a cut and paste from the 1st panel when I 
enter the application.


Enter Selection or Command ===>

Select one of the following options and press Enter:

0  ISMF Profile- Change ISMF User Profile
1  Data Set- Perform Functions Against Data Sets
2  Volume  - Perform Functions Against Volumes
3  Management Class- Specify Data Set Backup and Migration Criteria
4  Data Class  - Specify Data Set Allocation Parameters
5  Storage Class   - Specify Data Set Performance and Availability
9  Aggregate Group - Specify Data Set Recovery Parameters
L  List- Perform Functions Against Saved ISMF Lists
R  Removable Media Manager - Perform Functions Against Removable Media
X  Exit- Terminate ISMF


I'm guessing I need to do something from doors numbered 1 - 5.  Correct? 


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Re: Senior project title about MF

[Tony B.]

You should re-title your project 

"I read everything from IBM-MAIN, RACF-L, and CICS-L and actually understood
all that was said." 

That would impress anyone.  :-)

Here's wishing you the best for your future career. 

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Of Ahmet Alper TECIMER
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:09 PM
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Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF

There is no constraint. To write a TSO version of OOREXX would be considered
mainframe related but i think it is difficult. Actually, i want to make a
career as a mainframe system administrator.  So I prefer to choose my
project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is gaining
experience.
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> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/24/2008
>   at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>>Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title?
>
> What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered 
> mainframe related? Would it be of the appropriate level of difficulty?
>
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Re: Some help with SMS

[Norris Jackson]

You need to first go to option 0 and make yourself an administrator.
Then you will see more options off of the ISMF panel.

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? You can then go into the ISMF application and look at what is defined
in 
the
> "ACTIVE" configuration. There is likely not much.

OK, how do I do that?  Below is a cut and paste from the 1st panel when
I 
enter the application.

 Enter Selection or Command ===>

 Select one of the following options and press Enter:

 0  ISMF Profile- Change ISMF User Profile
 1  Data Set- Perform Functions Against Data Sets
 2  Volume  - Perform Functions Against Volumes
 3  Management Class- Specify Data Set Backup and Migration
Criteria
 4  Data Class  - Specify Data Set Allocation Parameters
 5  Storage Class   - Specify Data Set Performance and
Availability
 9  Aggregate Group - Specify Data Set Recovery Parameters
 L  List- Perform Functions Against Saved ISMF Lists
 R  Removable Media Manager - Perform Functions Against Removable Media
 X  Exit- Terminate ISMF


I'm guessing I need to do something from doors numbered 1 - 5.  Correct?


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Re: Some help with SMS

[Norris Jackson]

Oh, and you will have to back all the way out of ISMF and then go back
into it.  Then you can select options 7 and 8 to display/edit ACS
routines and info in the CDS's.

Norris Jackson
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Subject: Re: Some help with SMS

? You can then go into the ISMF application and look at what is defined
in 
the
> "ACTIVE" configuration. There is likely not much.

OK, how do I do that?  Below is a cut and paste from the 1st panel when
I 
enter the application.

 Enter Selection or Command ===>

 Select one of the following options and press Enter:

 0  ISMF Profile- Change ISMF User Profile
 1  Data Set- Perform Functions Against Data Sets
 2  Volume  - Perform Functions Against Volumes
 3  Management Class- Specify Data Set Backup and Migration
Criteria
 4  Data Class  - Specify Data Set Allocation Parameters
 5  Storage Class   - Specify Data Set Performance and
Availability
 9  Aggregate Group - Specify Data Set Recovery Parameters
 L  List- Perform Functions Against Saved ISMF Lists
 R  Removable Media Manager - Perform Functions Against Removable Media
 X  Exit- Terminate ISMF


I'm guessing I need to do something from doors numbered 1 - 5.  Correct?


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Re: Senior project title about MF

[Ahmet Alper TECIMER]

If it wasn't necessary to show my "working" project to jury of my university 
in June 2009 i would try it :)


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You should re-title your project

"I read everything from IBM-MAIN, RACF-L, and CICS-L and actually 
understood

all that was said."

That would impress anyone.  :-)

Here's wishing you the best for your future career.

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Behalf

Of Ahmet Alper TECIMER
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:09 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF

There is no constraint. To write a TSO version of OOREXX would be 
considered

mainframe related but i think it is difficult. Actually, i want to make a
career as a mainframe system administrator.  So I prefer to choose my
project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is 
gaining

experience.
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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/24/2008
  at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title?


What are your constraints? Would a TSO version of OOREXX be considered
mainframe related? Would it be of the appropriate level of difficulty?

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Re: 3480/3490 tape devices

[Mike Baldwin]

Three years later, I guess this (discontinue software distribution on tape)
is still in the planning stage.
A customer of ours just ordered their IBM z/OS maintenance...on 3490 tapes.
They've kept some C22's.

STK shops wonder what to do with those 3590/3592 carts, when they do
sometimes arrive.

Regards,
Mike Baldwin
Cartagena Software Ltd.
www.cartagena.com

Subject: Re: Product availability on 3592
From:   Mike Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:   IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
Date:   Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:04:22 -0500

At a recent presentation by Jim Elliott of IBM
(IBM System z9, z/OS and z/VM, 2005-09-15),
the direction was stated that software shipment
on tape will cease in Sept. 2006.

Here is an excerpt from a slide:

z/OS Statements of Direction
 Reducing ordering interfaces and delivery mechanisms
– SMP/E Internet Service Retrieval intended to simplify z/OS
Service acquisition – Available September 2005
– New ESO and CBPDO physical delivery subscriptions no longer
accepted – Effective March 2006
– Service-Only CBPDO orders no longer accepted – Effective
June 2006
– Existing ESO and CBPDO physical delivery subscriptions
discontinued – Effective September 2006

Here is a link to the presentation:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/pdfs/naspa-z9.pdf

Regards,
Mike Baldwin
Cartagena Software Ltd.
http://www.cartagena.com

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:27:48 -0500, John McKown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:02:52 +0100, Greeley, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>Apologies if you've already seen this:
>>
>>"IBM plans to discontinue delivery of software on 3480, 3480 Compressed
>>(3480C), and 3490E tape media. IBM recommends using Internet delivery
>>when ordering your z/OS products or service, which eliminates tape
>>handling. If you must use physical delivery, you may continue to choose
>>3590 or 3592 tape media. Internet delivery is IBM's flagship delivery
>>method; therefore, future software delivery enhancements will be focused
>>on Internet delivery."
>>
>>Kevin.
>>
>
>I hadn't seen that. Thanks. I forwarded it to my manager. The fecal material
>is likely to impact the air moving device.

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Re: Some help with SMS

[Gibney, Dave]

I bet John's beat me to it, but the first thing is to go into option 0
and change yourself to an administrator

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Subject: Re: Some help with SMS

? You can then go into the ISMF application and look at what is defined
in 
the
> "ACTIVE" configuration. There is likely not much.

OK, how do I do that?  Below is a cut and paste from the 1st panel when
I 
enter the application.

 Enter Selection or Command ===>

 Select one of the following options and press Enter:

 0  ISMF Profile- Change ISMF User Profile
 1  Data Set- Perform Functions Against Data Sets
 2  Volume  - Perform Functions Against Volumes
 3  Management Class- Specify Data Set Backup and Migration
Criteria
 4  Data Class  - Specify Data Set Allocation Parameters
 5  Storage Class   - Specify Data Set Performance and
Availability
 9  Aggregate Group - Specify Data Set Recovery Parameters
 L  List- Perform Functions Against Saved ISMF Lists
 R  Removable Media Manager - Perform Functions Against Removable Media
 X  Exit- Terminate ISMF


I'm guessing I need to do something from doors numbered 1 - 5.  Correct?


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Re: Some help with SMS(done)

[Dave Day]

thanks to those who offerred advice.  I got some help over the phone from a 
knowledgeable and helpful individual who lurks here on this list.


   --Dave
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I bet John's beat me to it, but the first thing is to go into option 0
and change yourself to an administrator

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Subject: Re: Some help with SMS

? You can then go into the ISMF application and look at what is defined
in
the

"ACTIVE" configuration. There is likely not much.


OK, how do I do that?  Below is a cut and paste from the 1st panel when
I
enter the application.

Enter Selection or Command ===>

Select one of the following options and press Enter:

0  ISMF Profile- Change ISMF User Profile
1  Data Set- Perform Functions Against Data Sets
2  Volume  - Perform Functions Against Volumes
3  Management Class- Specify Data Set Backup and Migration
Criteria
4  Data Class  - Specify Data Set Allocation Parameters
5  Storage Class   - Specify Data Set Performance and
Availability
9  Aggregate Group - Specify Data Set Recovery Parameters
L  List- Perform Functions Against Saved ISMF Lists
R  Removable Media Manager - Perform Functions Against Removable Media
X  Exit- Terminate ISMF


I'm guessing I need to do something from doors numbered 1 - 5.  Correct?


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Re: Some help with SMS

[Schwarz, Barry A]

You can spend a week learning to do it right or a month correcting
problems you find in the quick and dirty.  You have already been given
two manuals to start with and the offer of a third plus advice on how to
do it outside of SMS.  It is not likely that any new responses will
improve the situation.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Day 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Some help with SMS


I need some SMS help. I've never had to mess with it before, and
don't have a clue.  If there is a quick and dirty way to get what I need
done, I'd appreciate someone givimg me some help.
I've just migrated from a 1.6 Flex-es system to IBM's RDP system.
Running 1.9.  SMS is active.  I've got 8, 3390  volumes defined that I
want to use.  Questions.  How do I tell SMS to use those volumes for
non-specific dasd allocations?  And, how do I tell SMS to leave some
other volumes alone?   
Give me the steps I have to go through.  I tried hitting the
manuals, but really don't know where to start.  TIA.

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Re: REXX EXEC

[Ted MacNEIL]

>A mod 400 year is also a leap year. 

More to the point, century year that is not a mod 400 year is not a leap year.
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Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation

[Ted MacNEIL]

>..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they 
>still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation?


The answer is YES; I've never understood why.
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Re: VATLST00

[Ted MacNEIL]

>It looks like I could shut down the system, ipl a stand alone ICKDSF and run 
>the REFORMAT but that seems like a last resort to me.

You can use the MOUNT to change the STORAGE attribute, change the VAT; no IPL 
required.

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Re: Some help with SMS

[Ted MacNEIL]

>There is not really a "quick and dirty" way to do this.

As I read the original post, the OP already has SMS implemented.
It should be relatively simple to add the new DASD to the config, but I haven't 
done it in years, so I don't recall the steps.

>Again, do you really want SMS for some reason?

I firmly believe the answer is yes, for most shops.
SMS is not the same now, as it was 15 years ago.
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Re: Senior project title about MF

[Ted MacNEIL]

>Actually, i want to make a career as a mainframe system administrator.  So I 
>prefer to choose my 
project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is gaining 
experience.

What kind of administrator?
1. DBA - which type
2. Storage
3. Security/RACF
4. Systems Programmer

If you can answer that question, you might be able to better define the scope.

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SRB Wait & JWT

[Patrick Falcone]

While I don't believe that this is true can someone confirm. If a task goes 
into some sort of SRB wait, no time is also accrued to the JWT timer making 
these wait types mutually exclusive. Do I have this right or am I all wet? I 
would think that if you did hit the JWT limit, set at several minutes, that you 
have other more serious problems at hand.
 
If this is true does anyone have a good example of an SRB wait that could 
exceed 15 minutes also tripping the JWT limit?
 
TIA...

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IDC3182I RC=4

[Gibney, Dave]

REQUEST FOR COMPRESSION WAS NOT HONORED -- PROCESSING CONTINUES 
IDC0181I DATACLASS USED IS DEFAULT

IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 4


Additional senior moments, I thought I remembered a discussion here that
the RC=4 on this message was to be removed. But it's still here on my
1.9 sandbox? At least for me, it's harmless. My dataclas asked for
compression by default, if we get great, if not, oh well.

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Re: Some help with SMS

[Ron Hawkins]

Dave,

SMS is necessary if you don't want to use anything that is new in allocation
in the last 15 years (G, D, & R). Mounting all or some of your volumes as
"STORAGE" and specifying UNIT=3390 or UNIT=SYSALLDA for non-specific
allocation will get you up and running.

If you want to use SMS then you only need to define STORCLAS and STORGRUP
and allocate them with the appropriate ACS routines. DATACLAS is optional,
and MGMTCLAS can be allocated to a default that does nothing.

A dataset must be assigned a STORCLAS to be SMS managed. Everything else
comes after that. In most cases A STORCLAS called DEFAULT with everything
defaulted will suffice.

The STORGRUP contains the list of volumes that will be used for your
non-specific allocation. Don't forget to INIT the volumes as SMS managed!

Changes are done by editing an SCDS, and then promoting this to the ACDS.
The red book tells all

Coding the ACS routines to assign STORCLAS and STORGRUP is covered in the
Redbook someone mentioned earlier. If you can write PL1, REXX, CLIST or SAS
you will have no problem with ACS code.

More detailed information is in the DFP of the DFSMSeverythingelse reference
guide.

Good luck

Ron

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Dave Day
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:27 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Some help with SMS
> 
> I need some SMS help. I've never had to mess with it before, and
> don't have a clue.  If there is a quick and dirty way to get what I
> need done, I'd appreciate someone givimg me some help.
> I've just migrated from a 1.6 Flex-es system to IBM's RDP system.
> Running 1.9.  SMS is active.  I've got 8, 3390  volumes defined that I
> want to use.  Questions.  How do I tell SMS to use those volumes for
> non-specific dasd allocations?  And, how do I tell SMS to leave some
> other volumes alone?
> Give me the steps I have to go through.  I tried hitting the
> manuals, but really don't know where to start.  TIA.
> 
> --Dave Day
> 
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Re: Article on z/OS on Intel, sort of.

[Phil Smith III]

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Lindy Mayfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excellent read.
>
> Two questions came to mind. I tried to think of another mainframe
> besides IBM's.  Only Sperry and Unisys came to mind.  I had to look in
> wikipedia to see if they still exist.  I think so.

Of course, it depends who you ask. I got involved on a sales call a few weeks 
ago because the prospect "had a mainframe"; it turned out to be an HP9000. Not 
a mainframe on any planet I've visited, but different strokes...

Meanwhile, John McKown's comment on the story makes precisely the right point: 
that Herc, although an amazing achievement, doesn't implement full 
z/Architecture -- it can try to, but without access to the IBM IP, it cannot 
claim to and surely doesn't. 

One note: FLEX-ES (not "FlexES") isn't necessarily dead. It may be pinin' for 
the fjords, but it 'asn't passed on or joined the choir invisibule. And the 
many commercial sites who use it for production work on a daily basis prove 
that.

...phsiii

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Re: Senior project title about MF

[Ahmet Alper TECİMER]

I know the answer :)

4. Systems Programmer

This is the most compatible choice with me.

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Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:42 AM
Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.ibm-main
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Subject: Re: Senior project title about MF

Actually, i want to make a career as a mainframe system administrator.  So 
I prefer to choose my
project title about mainframe. my expectation about this project is 
gaining experience.


What kind of administrator?
1. DBA - which type
2. Storage
3. Security/RACF
4. Systems Programmer

If you can answer that question, you might be able to better define the 
scope.


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