Re: [MBZ] A/C Woes...the saga continues...

[Mitch Haley]

> Royce Engler wrote:
> I recently heard about a course you could take to
> get certified to purchase R-12guess I need to do that.

You need to take the 609 test, can get it on the internet for
less than $20, nobody fails an open book test if they are literate.

Re: [MBZ] 300D towing a travel trailer on I-81

[Mitch Haley]

"Rob S." wrote:
> 
> I don't think my 4cyl Odyssey is up to pulling much of a trailer,
> wife's Breeze can barely pull itself around,
> 
> but then I have this healthy 83 300D.

With brakes, that car is rated at something over a ton IIRC.
If you get something like an A-liner or a light pop-up, you won't hardly notice
it's there.

Re: [MBZ] R/R Rear Axle Half Shafts

[Paul Raheb]

To a short drive to Fresno today where I dropped in at Silver Star Recycling
fresnos.  They quoted me $45 for each half shaft +$10 core exchange.  What
they had already pulled from various cars didn't look much better than mine
(except my CV boots have rips and are leaking).   I took a look around the
yard for some bundt alloys and looked up under one of the 300TDs and saw two
rear axles with BEAUTIFUL rubber!  They pulled the two rear axle shafts for
me and away I went.   My question is this How does one tell if these are
replaced new OEM by GKN or ACEI remanufactured??? (just curious).Both
shafts have a sticker with bar code on them with the following:
NP5215877575.   I know the newer rebuilts are not worth the money.  I am
hoping this is either an older rebuild or a new one.

Now onto the work of replacing them.

Paul Raheb
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Visalia, CA
1985 300TD-T Wagon
1984 300D-T Sedan

Re: [MBZ] '85 300D u-joint

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

all of them I have seen for the last 15 years do that, if you are 
talking about the same thing I am thinking of.


Luther Gulseth wrote:

Could the u-joint be causing the rythmic vibration at speeds above 60-65?   
It cycles up and down in intensity at about every 1-1.5 seconds. TIA all,


On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:24:47 -0500, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:




No, you need to replace the driveshaft complete, or send it off to
someone that can re-center and strake in place a new u-joint.  DO NOT
replace it yourself, it will shake horribly.  I did one, won't ever do
another.  There is at least one place who can do them right, but the
charge $650 (six or seven years ago) for the job.

A used driveshaft is about $100 most places -- pull the front half off
and check for that tight spot before installing, and return it if it's
there.

Peter








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Re: [MBZ] '85 300D u-joint

[Luther Gulseth]

Could the u-joint be causing the rythmic vibration at speeds above 60-65?   
It cycles up and down in intensity at about every 1-1.5 seconds. TIA all,


On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:24:47 -0500, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



No, you need to replace the driveshaft complete, or send it off to
someone that can re-center and strake in place a new u-joint.  DO NOT
replace it yourself, it will shake horribly.  I did one, won't ever do
another.  There is at least one place who can do them right, but the
charge $650 (six or seven years ago) for the job.

A used driveshaft is about $100 most places -- pull the front half off
and check for that tight spot before installing, and return it if it's
there.

Peter





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'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)

Re: [MBZ] Replacing traling arm bushings

[John Robbins]

Excellent, thanks!


On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


yep, thats how you do it without removing the whole thing.

John Robbins wrote:


Is there any decent way to remove the trailing arm bushings without
dropping the entire rear subframe?  With the differential, trailing arms,
etc attached I imagine its a good 200lbs easy, which would be no fun to
reinstall and prolly dangerous to remove. I was thinking of disconnecting
the differential mount, and supporting the differential with a jack.
Then lower one side of the subframe at at time.  With each side lowered I
could replace the subframe bushings and have access to remove the trailing
arm bushings.  Does this sound reasonable?

Are the axles really only held in with the one bolt in the center of the
rear brake disk?  Will I need to do anything special to push the axle out?
The manual has a special tool to do that...

I am replacing the rear brake discs and pads, so will probably have those
items removed when lowering the trailing arm to help out with weight...
Driveshaft should be out shortly (waiting on paint to dry for the
alignment mark), and rear shocks and springs are already removed.


Is anything I'm doing very stupid or do you have any suggestions?


Thanks!!
John
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust

[John Robbins]

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Peter Frederick wrote:


TimeValve stainless steel is the best choice, particularly if you
intend to keep the car any length of time as it will long outlast the
body (so will factory replacement, probably!).


For $615 I think OEM will last long enough to suit me.  I simply don't 
have that kind of money... the OEM at ~400 is still pretty hard to 
justify.



Avoid aftermarket or muffler shop made ones as you will NOT be happy
long -- the OEM is expensive, but it FITS on the first try, and won't
affect performance.  After market parts are mot often junk, won't last
two years.


Thanks for the warning... figured as much, but still had to hope.


You definitely have a bad exhaust -- the noise in the back is indeed a
muffler with no interior baffles anymore.


Good to know... hopefully its making a lot of the road noise as well.

Thanks!!

John
'79 300SD

Re: [MBZ] Replacing traling arm bushings

[John Robbins]

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, Peter Frederick wrote:


You will need to drop the subframe down on the side you are replacing
the bushing, else you cannot remove the outer bolt.  Period, not way
around it.  You can leave the other side up -- loosen diff mount and
front subframe mount on the side you are changing.  It only need to
drop far enough to get the bolt out.


Excellent, hopefully I'll be able to pull that off... Thanks!


You also need a Klann or identical internal spring compressor to safely
remove the control arm -- the spring will be under considerable
compression when it jumps out of the seat otherwise, very unsafe.


I've got the Klann, and it worked wonderfully on both sides.  Completely 
effortless.



John
'79 300SD

Re: [MBZ] 108 pictures, not dial up friendly

[Jan Guthrie]

I thought we were putting a size limit on attachments

This was 2MB.  please guys ..

Jan

abby wrote:

>  PIcs of the 108 for sale in Boulder,
> CO. Alex__

[MBZ] the archives are fixed

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

 You can now access them again, the bug was worked out.
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Re: [MBZ] 108 for sale Denver Metro

[abby]

Thanks for the info -- I just sent pics to the list and here is the listing. I 
have never tried to sell a car on ebay, so it should be interesting.
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4565226841&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT

"Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
do you have a link to the auction? FYI you can post pics to the list.

abby wrote:

> Hi Kaleb,
> 
> I emailed pics directly to you last week, they are also on the ebay 
> listing. I wasn't sure If I could attach and send to the list.
> 
> Will send them to you again.
> 
> Alex
> 
> "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> do you have any pics?
> 
> abby wrote:
> 
> > The car has a drastic price drop for quick sale. I need to move
> across
> > country to take care of my dad and I can't bring the car. I have
> it on
> > ebay for $800. Runs like a champ
> >
> > abby wrote:
> >
> > 1973 280SEL 4.5 FI, Anthracite gray, sunroof, daily driver. A solid
> > 4 condition. I have about 25 years worth of recipts, original owners
> > manuals, tool kit. It needs work, shocks, heat levers, interior,
> > power steering pump, and there is some surface rust/bubbling paint
> > on the wheel wells. Small paint chips from rocks in various spots,
> > and there is a crack in the windshield. Reliable -- starts every
> > morning, has lots of power and has never left me stranded. Runs nice
> > and cool. There are new parts, such as a water pump, and has a fresh
> > tune up. Has AC but I have never tried it. Great daily driver or for
> > restoration. I would like to get $1800 for it, though cash talks!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 108 pictures, not dial up friendly

[abby]

PIcs of the 108 for sale in Boulder, CO.
 
Alex


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Re: [MBZ] 108 for sale Denver Metro

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

do you have a link to the auction?  FYI you can post pics to the list.

abby wrote:


Hi Kaleb,
 
I emailed pics directly to you last week, they are also on the ebay 
listing. I wasn't sure If I could attach and send to the list.
 
Will send them to you again.
 
Alex


"Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

do you have any pics?

abby wrote:

 > The car has a drastic price drop for quick sale. I need to move
across
 > country to take care of my dad and I can't bring the car. I have
it on
 > ebay for $800. Runs like a champ
 >
 > abby wrote:
 >
 > 1973 280SEL 4.5 FI, Anthracite gray, sunroof, daily driver. A solid
 > 4 condition. I have about 25 years worth of recipts, original owners
 > manuals, tool kit. It needs work, shocks, heat levers, interior,
 > power steering pump, and there is some surface rust/bubbling paint
 > on the wheel wells. Small paint chips from rocks in various spots,
 > and there is a crack in the windshield. Reliable -- starts every
 > morning, has lots of power and has never left me stranded. Runs nice
 > and cool. There are new parts, such as a water pump, and has a fresh
 > tune up. Has AC but I have never tried it. Great daily driver or for
 > restoration. I would like to get $1800 for it, though cash talks!
 >
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Re: [MBZ] 108 for sale Denver Metro

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:19:37 -0700 (PDT) abby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I emailed pics directly to you last week, they are also on the ebay
> listing.

So what's the eBay listing?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] 108 for sale Denver Metro

[abby]

Hi Kaleb,
 
I emailed pics directly to you last week, they are also on the ebay listing. I 
wasn't sure If I could attach and send to the list.
 
Will send them to you again.
 
Alex

"Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
do you have any pics?

abby wrote:

> The car has a drastic price drop for quick sale. I need to move across 
> country to take care of my dad and I can't bring the car. I have it on 
> ebay for $800. Runs like a champ
> 
> abby wrote:
> 
> 1973 280SEL 4.5 FI, Anthracite gray, sunroof, daily driver. A solid
> 4 condition. I have about 25 years worth of recipts, original owners
> manuals, tool kit. It needs work, shocks, heat levers, interior,
> power steering pump, and there is some surface rust/bubbling paint
> on the wheel wells. Small paint chips from rocks in various spots,
> and there is a crack in the windshield. Reliable -- starts every
> morning, has lots of power and has never left me stranded. Runs nice
> and cool. There are new parts, such as a water pump, and has a fresh
> tune up. Has AC but I have never tried it. Great daily driver or for
> restoration. I would like to get $1800 for it, though cash talks!
> 
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] 108 for sale Denver Metro

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

do you have any pics?

abby wrote:

The car has a drastic price drop for quick sale. I need to move across 
country to take care of my dad and I can't bring the car. I have it on 
ebay for $800. Runs like a champ


abby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

1973 280SEL 4.5 FI, Anthracite gray, sunroof, daily driver. A solid
4 condition. I have about 25 years worth of recipts, original owners
manuals, tool kit. It needs work, shocks, heat levers, interior,
power steering pump, and there is some surface rust/bubbling paint
on the wheel wells. Small paint chips from rocks in various spots,
and there is a crack in the windshield. Reliable -- starts every
morning, has lots of power and has never left me stranded. Runs nice
and cool. There are new parts, such as a water pump, and has a fresh
tune up. Has AC but I have never tried it. Great daily driver or for
restoration. I would like to get $1800 for it, though cash talks!
 
Alex

303-546-3407
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [MBZ] 108 for sale Denver Metro

[abby]

The car has a drastic price drop for quick sale. I need to move across country 
to take care of my dad and I can't bring the car. I have it on ebay for $800. 
Runs like a champ

abby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:1973 280SEL 4.5 FI, Anthracite gray, sunroof, 
daily driver. A solid 4 condition. I have about 25 years worth of recipts, 
original owners manuals, tool kit. It needs work, shocks, heat levers, 
interior, power steering pump, and there is some surface rust/bubbling paint on 
the wheel wells. Small paint chips from rocks in various spots, and there is a 
crack in the windshield. Reliable -- starts every morning, has lots of power 
and has never left me stranded. Runs nice and cool. There are new parts, such 
as a water pump, and has a fresh tune up. Has AC but I have never tried it. 
Great daily driver or for restoration. I would like to get $1800 for it, though 
cash talks!
 
Alex
303-546-3407
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing traling arm bushings

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you do not need a spring compressor to do the rear, the springs are 
under very little tension and simply fall out when you lower the subframe.


Peter Frederick wrote:

You will need to drop the subframe down on the side you are replacing 
the bushing, else you cannot remove the outer bolt.  Period, not way 
around it.  You can leave the other side up -- loosen diff mount and 
front subframe mount on the side you are changing.  It only need to 
drop far enough to get the bolt out.


You also need a Klann or identical internal spring compressor to safely 
remove the control arm -- the spring will be under considerable 
compression when it jumps out of the seat otherwise, very unsafe.


Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Replacing traling arm bushings

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yep, thats how you do it without removing the whole thing.

John Robbins wrote:

Is there any decent way to remove the trailing arm bushings without 
dropping the entire rear subframe?  With the differential, trailing arms, 
etc attached I imagine its a good 200lbs easy, which would be no fun to 
reinstall and prolly dangerous to remove. I was thinking of disconnecting 
the differential mount, and supporting the differential with a jack. 
Then lower one side of the subframe at at time.  With each side lowered I 
could replace the subframe bushings and have access to remove the trailing 
arm bushings.  Does this sound reasonable?


Are the axles really only held in with the one bolt in the center of the 
rear brake disk?  Will I need to do anything special to push the axle out? 
The manual has a special tool to do that...


I am replacing the rear brake discs and pads, so will probably have those 
items removed when lowering the trailing arm to help out with weight... 
Driveshaft should be out shortly (waiting on paint to dry for the 
alignment mark), and rear shocks and springs are already removed.



Is anything I'm doing very stupid or do you have any suggestions?


Thanks!!
John
'79 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 190

[Zeitgeist]

Not sure if you were CC'd Dave, but Andrew came up with a rather
elegant solution; tee in a vacuum check valve, into the boost line,
which would avoid trapping pressure in the aneroid chamber.  This
would vent manifold vacuum from a separate source, rather than the
ALDA.  Another additional option might be to source the ALDA boost
signal right at the turbo, which might help avoid boost lag due to IC
plumbing losses.

On 7/30/05, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good point, Andrew. Also remember than any restriction in line with
> the ALDA will reduce part-throttle power, as the ALDA will get a
> delayed signal from the charge pipe. This was the "fix" Mercedes
> foisted upon the 1986/1987 models to correct a lean surge with the
> cruise control. It's shown in the FSM complete with restriction
> orifice, an extra switchover valve, and a bunch more plumbing. With
> the EGR/ARV disconnected and ALDA adjusted it's not needed - I removed
> it from my cars. I think you would need more than 1-2 inches of vacuum
> before it would actually affect fuel delivery but I'm not sure about
> that.

Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] 140's, new cars, degrading wiring etc

[Dave M.]

About the wiring problem, I'd expect all years to  have that issue. On
the W124, every model between 1992-95 had this issue. The replacement
harnesses you buy today, brand-new, are made of the SAME stuff and
will have the SAME problem in another 10+ years. (Hey - don't shoot
the messenger, OK?)

Did they change materials mid-stream on the W140? I don't know for
sure but I highly doubt it. If the car you buy does not have the
harness already replaced, plan to replace it. On the W124's, it's
mostly just the harness that goes from the CAN box to the engine
itself (injectors, sensors, TBA, etc). The alternator harness was
toast on my car too - major PITA to replace. The body harness (to
headlights, etc) is normally NOT affected, which is good, because that
harness is stupidly expensive. All the harness prices can vary widely
based on year and specific model... for example, the 500E harness is
about double a 300E harness (ouch).

Here's a photo of my original alternator harness:
http://www.w124performance.com/images/cars/94_E500/restoration/starter_harness_old.jpg

And here's the new one:
http://www.w124performance.com/images/cars/94_E500/restoration/starter_harness_new1.jpg

Luckily it was 'only' $150 and 'only' took about 6 weeks to arrive
from Germany... my E500 had the engine harness replaced by a previous
owner and so far is not showing signs of failure again.

:-)


> --
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:39:29 -0500
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140's, new cars, degrading wiring etc
> 
> 
> Yea I knew about all those problems.  Now wiring deal, so the 92's and
> 93's had the same problem?
> 
> John M McIntosh wrote:
> 
> > Yawn, it's late just finished a 3 hour highway drive in the w140,
> > really nice to drive. So lets see...
> >
> > a) 92/93+ had shimmy problems, fixed that by redoing suspension
> > system which lowered the car an inch or so.
> > b) expect the oem expensive blower regulator to fail, third-party or
> > later regulators come with bigger heat sinks
> > c) boshe vacuum pump () under passenger rear seat packs it in,
> > that controls trunk & door locks
> > d) biodegradable wiring, this might have changed in 98? Someone on
> > benzworld.org had a 600SEL with an older throttle actuator with
> > toasted wiring, yet
> > the other throttle actuator made in 98 was fine and had different
> > color wire.  http://www.mbnz.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?
> > tid=1202133&start=1&fid=13
> >
> > Some options where deleted in 95 (I think) then added back, really
> > you want a 98 or 99 which apparently fixes many things.

Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

[OK Don]

Yup - what he said.

On 7/30/05, Gerald R. Flintrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  For the past 40 or 50 years, I've thought that Republicans take your 
> money and put in their pockets. Democrats take your money and put it in 
> someone else's pockets (Take a Grand from one guy, and give $250 to each of 
> four other guys, and you have a net gain of three votes).
> 
>  Jerry (What, you're calling me a cynic?)
> 
>  -Original Message-
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *BenzBarn
> *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2005 9:45 PM
> *To:* OK Don; Mercedes mailing list
> *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR
> 
>  My observations are that conservatives like to usurp power from you. Even 
> though they invent trade deals that put people out of work, they bitch about 
> the lazy people they just put out of work. They seem to be intolerable of 
> anyone outside of WASP's or at least English speaking white folks with 
> money. They also hate unions, school teachers, anyone who makes more money 
> than they do except well educated conservative anal types, gays, immigrants, 
> people on welfare, big cities ( where are the liberals live ) except the 
> rich areas, and of course, people who don't go to church..
>  
>   Pretty much rules me and half the population out around here. And we all 
> speak English and are pretty white, but have no real money.
>  
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'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[OK Don]

Our first three kids had second grade teacher who couldn't spell - every 
time we walked into the room we corrected a word on the board. Otherwise, 
she was excellent. The kids ended up with excellent spelling skills. They 
all had 4.0's from high school, one got into Yale and is working on her PhD 
in English. 
Bottom line - you are responsible for our kids education regardless of where 
they go to school. Parents have to be involved with the homework. The 
exposure to lots of different people is a very valuable part of public 
education. 

On 7/30/05, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Man thats my biggest spelling pet peeve, how hard is it to put the e in 
> the right place? The last year I was in college I was an RA and worked with 
> a woman who would always put "All quite" in the log. For the first few weeks 
> I'd write things like "Quite interesting that it was all quiet last night." 
> One day in a meeting she asked me while I wrote "Quiet interesting that it 
> was all quite last night"... She was a junior majoring in Secondary Ed. 
> She's why when and if my wife and I have kids we'll homeschool or at least 
> give the teachers a test before I allow them to teach my kid.
> 
> -Curt
> 

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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 190

[Dave M.]

Good point, Andrew. Also remember than any restriction in line with
the ALDA will reduce part-throttle power, as the ALDA will get a
delayed signal from the charge pipe. This was the "fix" Mercedes
foisted upon the 1986/1987 models to correct a lean surge with the
cruise control. It's shown in the FSM complete with restriction
orifice, an extra switchover valve, and a bunch more plumbing. With
the EGR/ARV disconnected and ALDA adjusted it's not needed - I removed
it from my cars. I think you would need more than 1-2 inches of vacuum
before it would actually affect fuel delivery but I'm not sure about
that.

=)

-Dave M.

> --
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:05:20 -0400
> From: Andrew Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Boost line check valve?
> 
> Casey,
> 
> I have been playing with the signal to the ALDA with the 617 engine,
> not yours though.  If there is a check valve (at least on the 617) the
> ALDA will stay pressurized from your peak boost even after you take
> your foot off the go pedal.  Until it leaks down to the correct intake
> pressure your IP will be spitting out more fuel at a given throttle
> position than it should be.  Perhaps, Marshall can weigh in and
> confirm.
> 
> Out of curiosity, how much is a fair amount of vacuum?
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> On 7/29/05, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The latest thread about leaky valve stem seals has gotten me to think
> > about the presence of pressure and (a little) vacuum in the intake
> > manifold.  I've been monitoring my boost pressure gauge and have
> > detected a fair amount of vacuum in the intake off idle until boost
> > builds.  I'm also experiencing a bit of throttle lag off idle, before
> > the beast leaps forward with a vengeance, so I'd like to put a
> > pressure check valve in the line between the manifold and ALDA, so I
> > can test a theory
> > (btw: I know about adjusting the ALDA screw or shimming, so hold that
> > thought).
> >
> > Does anyone know of small orifice check valve for either pressure or
> > vacuum (I assume these can just be turned around, right?)?  Does MB or
> > another make use one of these check valves?  I've seen vacuum filters
> > and reducers, but not a small orifice check valve so far.
> >
> > TIA
> > --
> > Casey
> > Biodiesel:
> > '87 300TD intercooler (206k)

Re: [MBZ] Dwell - saga complete Now can't set timing

[72benz250]

BTW, The fast idle screw is missing from my carburators. Would this be related 
to this problem?

Is the fast idle screw, just a screw w/ a spring? is that something I can get 
at home depot? if so doe anybody know the screw size & length?

Thanks

George

-- Original message -- 

I reveresed the coil wiring and took the dwell meter from under the battery, 
like Dan(benzbarn) suggested and I was able to get & set the dwell properly. 
41*. Thanks Dan! Woohoo!

Now I'm trying to set the timing and I'm turning the distributor and every 
thing is fine at about 1000 RPM & 10 BTDC.

I turn the distributor clockwise just a hair more, and the rpms drop and the 
RPM's stumble and stalls.

What am I doing wrong.

And just to make sure, standing on the drivers side btdc is at the bottom and 
ATDC is at the top.

This is all on my 72 250 W114 M130.

Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing traling arm bushings

[Peter Frederick]

You will need to drop the subframe down on the side you are replacing 
the bushing, else you cannot remove the outer bolt.  Period, not way 
around it.  You can leave the other side up -- loosen diff mount and 
front subframe mount on the side you are changing.  It only need to 
drop far enough to get the bolt out.


You also need a Klann or identical internal spring compressor to safely 
remove the control arm -- the spring will be under considerable 
compression when it jumps out of the seat otherwise, very unsafe.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust

[Peter Frederick]

TimeValve stainless steel is the best choice, particularly if you 
intend to keep the car any length of time as it will long outlast the 
body (so will factory replacement, probably!).


Avoid aftermarket or muffler shop made ones as you will NOT be happy 
long -- the OEM is expensive, but it FITS on the first try, and won't 
affect performance.  After market parts are mot often junk, won't last 
two years.


You definitely have a bad exhaust -- the noise in the back is indeed a 
muffler with no interior baffles anymore.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Substitute for ATE brake cylinder paste?

[Joe Knight]

Sil-Glide is not an assembly paste, Herman.  It has no place in the
piston/cylinder assembly.  I've tried several times over the years to
find a proper brake cylinder paste as is listed in many manufacturers'
manuals, always with no success at all.  Not familiar with any other
of the products you've listed but I suspect that they're all
anti-squeel products.  If you do run across a true brake cylinder
assembly paste I'd purely love to hear about it even though I've never
encountered any problems with using brake fluid during assembly.

joe

[MBZ] Dwell - saga complete Now can't set timing

[72benz250]

I reveresed the coil wiring and took the dwell meter from under the battery, 
like Dan(benzbarn) suggested and I was able to get & set the dwell properly. 
41*. Thanks Dan! Woohoo!

Now I'm trying to set the timing and I'm turning the distributor and every 
thing is fine at about 1000 RPM & 10 BTDC.

I turn the distributor clockwise just a hair more, and the rpms drop and the 
RPM's stumble and stalls.

What am I doing wrong.

And just to make sure, standing on the drivers side btdc is at the bottom and 
ATDC is at the top.

This is all on my 72 250 W114 M130.

Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks

George

Re: [MBZ] 140's, new cars, degrading wiring etc

[John M McIntosh]

Yes, my 93 had biodegradable wiring, which was replaced when it  
shorted out and toasted the fuel mass air sensor.
the FMAS and wiring was  > 1K for parts, installation was relatively  
cheap.


I'll note we drove it seattle to San Diego return at Easter, did I  
mention it drives really nice.


On 30-Jul-05, at 8:39 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



Yea I knew about all those problems.  Now wiring deal, so the 92's and
93's had the same problem?

John M McIntosh wrote:



John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1992 300TDt  145k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

[MBZ] Replacing traling arm bushings

[John Robbins]

Is there any decent way to remove the trailing arm bushings without 
dropping the entire rear subframe?  With the differential, trailing arms, 
etc attached I imagine its a good 200lbs easy, which would be no fun to 
reinstall and prolly dangerous to remove. I was thinking of disconnecting 
the differential mount, and supporting the differential with a jack. 
Then lower one side of the subframe at at time.  With each side lowered I 
could replace the subframe bushings and have access to remove the trailing 
arm bushings.  Does this sound reasonable?


Are the axles really only held in with the one bolt in the center of the 
rear brake disk?  Will I need to do anything special to push the axle out? 
The manual has a special tool to do that...


I am replacing the rear brake discs and pads, so will probably have those 
items removed when lowering the trailing arm to help out with weight... 
Driveshaft should be out shortly (waiting on paint to dry for the 
alignment mark), and rear shocks and springs are already removed.



Is anything I'm doing very stupid or do you have any suggestions?


Thanks!!
John
'79 300SD

Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

[Gerald R. Flintrop]

For the past 40 or 50 years, I've thought that Republicans take your money
and put in their pockets. Democrats take your money and put it in someone
else's pockets (Take a Grand from one guy, and give $250 to each of four
other guys, and you have a net gain of three votes).

 

Jerry (What, you're calling me a cynic?)

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of BenzBarn
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:45 PM
To: OK Don; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

 

My observations are that conservatives like to usurp power from you. Even
though they invent trade deals that put people out of work, they bitch about
the lazy people they just put out of work. They seem to be intolerable of
anyone outside of WASP's or at least English speaking white folks with
money. They also hate unions, school teachers, anyone who makes more money
than they do except well educated conservative anal types, gays, immigrants,
people on welfare, big cities ( where are the liberals live ) except the
rich areas, and of course, people who don't go to church..

 

 Pretty much rules me and half the population out around here. And we all
speak English and are pretty white, but have no real money.

Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[Steve MacSween]

My $500 eBay special. May need an engine, runs on two cylinders. I have
access to a rustout parts car here with a good engine and a stick.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> OK, what 240D would that be?
> 
> Steve MacSween wrote:
> 
>> I am currently dealing with these guys, to move my 240d from Texas to
>> Canada. So far they have been very good overall. The final verdict will be
>> in when the car arrives (approx. 10 days).
>> 
>> http://www.aa-auto.com/
>> 
>> Mac
>> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> do you have a favorite shipper...or advice?
>>> 
>>> Ship it, DO NOT DRIVE.  Kaleb will swoop down and offer you low cash to
>>> take it when it breaks down on the drive back.  I think he has a Benz
>>> breaker ray for all eBay cars that drive through OK
>>> 
>>> On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 08:37 PM, JJJ wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 i did...now gotta get it from houston to spokane...
>>> 
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[MBZ] Exhaust

[John Robbins]

Slowly making progress on my rear end rebuild... in the process I had to 
get my exhaust off.  Its original and of course rusted together, but 
somehow still managed to get it off of the car.  I've got a few symptoms 
of needing a new exhaust, but if you guys could verify that they are 
exhaust so I can justify getting a new one...  here's what I've got.


--Black soot around beginning of flex pipe... no question thats a leak.

--Lots of engine noise at speed.  Can let off of accellerator and noise 
will reduce drastically.  Probably related to leak at flex pipe..


--In rear of vehicle (backseat) around 1200rpm or so a VERY loud exhaust 
bass noise is heard.  Is this a sign of a dead muffler?



Are there any solutions for less than $200?  Rusty's site doesn't seem to 
have the exhaust prices for my car, but last I checked it was about $400. 
I have no qualms with aftermarket so long as it won't be a POS system... 
nor do I have a problem throwing the exhaust in the trunk (of another car 
;) and handing it to a muffler shop and asking them to duplicate it.


I really don't want to put the exhaust back on the car in one piece if 
nothing else...  do they make something where I could cut the exhaust and 
have some kind of clamp connection system?


Thanks!!!

John
'79 300SD

Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

OK, what 240D would that be?

Steve MacSween wrote:


I am currently dealing with these guys, to move my 240d from Texas to
Canada. So far they have been very good overall. The final verdict will be
in when the car arrives (approx. 10 days).

http://www.aa-auto.com/

Mac

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do you have a favorite shipper...or advice?

Ship it, DO NOT DRIVE.  Kaleb will swoop down and offer you low cash to
take it when it breaks down on the drive back.  I think he has a Benz
breaker ray for all eBay cars that drive through OK

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 08:37 PM, JJJ wrote:



i did...now gotta get it from houston to spokane...



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Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[Steve MacSween]

I am currently dealing with these guys, to move my 240d from Texas to
Canada. So far they have been very good overall. The final verdict will be
in when the car arrives (approx. 10 days).

http://www.aa-auto.com/

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> do you have a favorite shipper...or advice?
> 
> Ship it, DO NOT DRIVE.  Kaleb will swoop down and offer you low cash to
> take it when it breaks down on the drive back.  I think he has a Benz
> breaker ray for all eBay cars that drive through OK
> 
> On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 08:37 PM, JJJ wrote:
> 
>> i did...now gotta get it from houston to spokane...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I actually have 5 116's.  What are you looking for?

John Robbins wrote:


What is the status on the two 116's?  Anything good on them?

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



http://striplin.net/yard/MVC-001S.JPG

http://striplin.net/yard/MVC-002S.JPG

Anbody else care to post your pic of YOUR back yard?  Or front yard for
that matter.
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85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no, the one in the barn is a 300D.  I need to get that thing cleaned up 
and start driving it.


John Robbins wrote:


Thats the $100 one you picked up from the barn right?

I'll be at your doorstep next Saturday if you'll take $200. ;)

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



Runs excellent, tranny excellent, I think it has a factory crate engine
in it.  Would take more than that to pry it out of my hands.

redghost wrote:



Does it run/look fine otherwise?  How much hassle is it to fix?  I will
give you um...  $150 for it

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:




its a 74 240D, its the car with the bolts that broke loose for
passenger
rear shock.  Have not decided to fix the car or part the car.

redghost wrote:




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Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[John Robbins]

What is the status on the two 116's?  Anything good on them?

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


http://striplin.net/yard/MVC-001S.JPG

http://striplin.net/yard/MVC-002S.JPG

Anbody else care to post your pic of YOUR back yard?  Or front yard for
that matter.
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 140's, new cars, degrading wiring etc

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Yea I knew about all those problems.  Now wiring deal, so the 92's and 
93's had the same problem?


John M McIntosh wrote:

Yawn, it's late just finished a 3 hour highway drive in the w140,  
really nice to drive. So lets see...


a) 92/93+ had shimmy problems, fixed that by redoing suspension  
system which lowered the car an inch or so.
b) expect the oem expensive blower regulator to fail, third-party or  
later regulators come with bigger heat sinks
c) boshe vacuum pump () under passenger rear seat packs it in,  
that controls trunk & door locks
d) biodegradable wiring, this might have changed in 98? Someone on  
benzworld.org had a 600SEL with an older throttle actuator with  
toasted wiring, yet
the other throttle actuator made in 98 was fine and had different  
color wire.  http://www.mbnz.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp? 
tid=1202133&start=1&fid=13


Some options where deleted in 95 (I think) then added back, really  
you want a 98 or 99 which apparently fixes many things.


On 29-Jul-05, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


OK, need to start looking for another 140 pretty soon for the  
wife.  My
old 93 was pretty good, had the typical ac evaporator problem which  
was

fixed under warranty.  Im trying to refresh my memory about the 140's
and newer cars in general.  I do remmeber the 92 and 93 had some  
sort of
suspension problem that should have been fixed by now on all them.   
What

about the AC evap problem, is it on all 140's?  Next question, what
about the biodegradable wiring that degrades too fast?  Was talking  
to a
dude who said in fact 92, and maybe 93's were good in the fact that  
they

still have the good old fashioned wiring. So what years are affected
with this problem?  I have also noticed it seemed like some of the  
later

ones, past about 96, didnt have as many options as the earlier ones.
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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1992 300TDt  145k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 166k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)



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Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[John Robbins]

Thats the $100 one you picked up from the barn right?

I'll be at your doorstep next Saturday if you'll take $200. ;)

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Runs excellent, tranny excellent, I think it has a factory crate engine
in it.  Would take more than that to pry it out of my hands.

redghost wrote:


Does it run/look fine otherwise?  How much hassle is it to fix?  I will
give you um...  $150 for it

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



its a 74 240D, its the car with the bolts that broke loose for
passenger
rear shock.  Have not decided to fix the car or part the car.

redghost wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Stop me please before I do something I will regret

[Rich Thomas]

My rationale (if you can call it that) is that suppose I would end up 
putting in $1k or$2k over a year, then having a $2k or$3k solid, decent 
looking, nearly 30 yr old car, probably better than any other POS you 
could buy for that kind of money.  Insurance is nothing,  But then again 
it is not like I need the car, just seems like a decent deal even if it 
ends up needing some more money thrown at it, and I could probably durn 
it 4 a profiterole 2 sunwum own ebbbayee.


Keep talking to yourself Rich...

oops gotta send this quick my wife is coming

--R

Steve MacSween wrote:


Every older car has a GOTCHA in terms of some inane part that floors you
when you get the price quote.

Until today, I would have said my Volvo 164e was the exception to that
rule... until I called the dealer for a water pump... $353 Cdn. Ha ha ha ha
ha, etc. Even the aftermarket is $135.

Anyway, stuff like an ignition module you look for on eBay and grab
secondhand and keep for a rainy day.

I would have thought the biggest gotcha on that car would be the climate
control servo. Followed by the tranny, which does not sound like a winning
proposition at all.

What you have there, in my experience, is a $1k car fixing to be a $2.5k car
in fairly short order.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


I have never seen one go bad.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   


In a message dated 7/29/2005 12:36:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On an errand this morning, saw a 450SEL with a for sale, $1200.
Looked
pretty nice, blue/blue, paint a bit faded, a few dings here and there,
interior nice.  Called the guy, it's a 77, 120k miles or so, A/C
working
but might need a recharge, tranny takes a few minutes to start shifting
right but then OK, he's owned it since 81, all service at Enzo Luzo's
place in that time.  Probably get it for $1k.

Check the price of an ignitor module for this car, part of the spark
ignition system.  I think they fail every 50-60 K miles!  In fact, go to
Rusty's site and put in that year and model and just look at stuff like
injectors, plug wires, tune up kits, etc.

That'll stop you.

Regards,

Jim Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles
98 ML 320, 137 K miles




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Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[Rich Thomas]

Does Southwest go anywhere near you.  Just got an $89 HOU-PHL ticket, 
amazing.  Or I will watch the car for you until you can come get it, 
take your time, I will keep the fluids exercised.


--R


OK Don wrote:


Fly to Houston, drive it home???

On 7/29/05, *JJJ* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

so...anyone have any ideas about shipping?




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Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[JJJ]

do you have a favorite shipper...or advice?

Ship it, DO NOT DRIVE.  Kaleb will swoop down and offer you low cash to 
take it when it breaks down on the drive back.  I think he has a Benz 
breaker ray for all eBay cars that drive through OK


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 08:37 PM, JJJ wrote:


i did...now gotta get it from houston to spokane...

[MBZ] Substitute for ATE brake cylinder paste?

[RAH]

I plan on rebuilding the Calipers for my 82 300SD. Is there a substitute for 
the ATE brake cylinder paste the manual calls for?( I know some people use 
brake fluid)
 The only thing I could find on it was this post on a BMW list.  NAPA says they 
can get the Sil-Glyde. Has anyone Used it or any others on this BMW post.


Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:09:09 -0700
From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:  Brake Caliper Rebuilding
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>What are folks using as assembly lube for brake caliper rebuilds besides
>the recommended Ate grease?  I know you can use brake fluid and someone
>(Gary?) may have mentioned Dow 111 silicon?  I would prefer to use some
>sort of grease since it is less messy but I will resort to brake fluid
>if necessary.  Thanks.

The options are:

* ATE brake paste - impossible to get in the U.S.  One intrepid 
lister has imported some from the U.K., but at great cost.

* AGS Sil-Glyde - available at NAPA or other better auto parts stores 
for about $7 a tube.  If you don't want to buy a tube, Autozone has 
little packets.

* Dow Corning 111 - available at Grainger; $8.50 per tube.

* Lucas/Girling red rubber grease - available from Brit parts houses, 
but I didn't pursue it.

* Motorcraft Silicone Brake Grease - I didn't pursue this one.

* Permatex Ultra Brake Lube - supposed to be safe for internal use, 
but the MSDS shows it's 90-95% "synthetic oil" so I don't know if 
it's truly rubber safe.


The DC 111 grease is good for up to 400F, Sil-Glyde 600F.

I'm not a chemist, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last 
night, but the MSDS sheets are available for most of the above if you 
wish to explore.  Any of them would probably be fine.

I would strongly recommend using grease instead of brake fluid.  It 
makes everything a snap.  The pistons can be pushed back in with only 
hand pressure.

Herman


Also my local NAPA had G-05 for $10.71 Gal. Just in case anyone is still 
looking for a retailer that still stocks it.   Russ

[MBZ] Gotcha Goat....

[Darrell W. Sigmon]

GOATS
>
> A group of Americans were traveling by tour bus through Holland. As they
> stopped at a cheese farm, a young guide led them through the process of
> cheese making, explaining that goats milk was used. She showed the 
group a

> lively hillside where many goats were grazing.
>
> "These" she explained "are the older goats put out to pasture when 
they no
> longer produce."  She then asked, "What do you do in America with 
your old

> goats?"
>
> A spry old  gentleman answered, "They send us on bus tours, and let us
> live
> in Florida."

Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[BenzBarn]

Spell check won't catch things like this. The words are spelled correctly and 
that's all the computer is looking for.

Someone on the list here with a PhD can't figure out the difference between '' 
then '' and '' than '' so it's not uncommon.

Maybe is dyslexia.

Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[Curt Raymond]

Man thats my biggest spelling pet peeve, how hard is it to put the e in the 
right place? The last year I was in college I was an RA and worked with a woman 
who would always put "All quite" in the log. For the first few weeks I'd write 
things like "Quite interesting that it was all quiet last night." One day in a 
meeting she asked me while I wrote "Quiet interesting that it was all quite 
last night"... She was a junior majoring in Secondary Ed. She's why when and if 
my wife and I have kids we'll homeschool or at least give the teachers a test 
before I allow them to teach my kid.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:13:55 -0500
From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

*"THE EXUST MUFLER IS QUITE"

--R



-
 Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 

[MBZ] Half Axle Replacements (W123)

[David J. Carter]

Paul,
Go to www.car-parts.com   (no affiliation)
and search for a used parts source for the half axles.  The service
manual advised to replace the axle retaining clips in the differential.
They are part number 115 994 04 34.  You'll need a floor jack to lower
the differential for some wiggle room to free the axle.  You might find
it useful to look at the write up on CV boot replacement even if you are
not going to do that.  Much of the axle replacement work is shown here
http://boostnbenz.1baddsm.com   
 
David J Carter 
Fleet
81 300DT  159K "Number One"
83 300TDT 153K "Wagon"
82 300DT  183K "Number Two"
79 240D stick205K "Turtle"
81 240D auto 203K "T-2" 
96 Suburban  121K "Mom's Car"
 

Re: [MBZ] Boost line check valve?

[Andrew Cunningham]

Casey,

I have been playing with the signal to the ALDA with the 617 engine,
not yours though.  If there is a check valve (at least on the 617) the
ALDA will stay pressurized from your peak boost even after you take
your foot off the go pedal.  Until it leaks down to the correct intake
pressure your IP will be spitting out more fuel at a given throttle
position than it should be.  Perhaps, Marshall can weigh in and
confirm.

Out of curiosity, how much is a fair amount of vacuum?

Andy


On 7/29/05, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The latest thread about leaky valve stem seals has gotten me to think
> about the presence of pressure and (a little) vacuum in the intake
> manifold.  I've been monitoring my boost pressure gauge and have
> detected a fair amount of vacuum in the intake off idle until boost
> builds.  I'm also experiencing a bit of throttle lag off idle, before
> the beast leaps forward with a vengeance, so I'd like to put a
> pressure check valve in the line between the manifold and ALDA, so I
> can test a theory
> (btw: I know about adjusting the ALDA screw or shimming, so hold that
> thought).
> 
> Does anyone know of small orifice check valve for either pressure or
> vacuum (I assume these can just be turned around, right?)?  Does MB or
> another make use one of these check valves?  I've seen vacuum filters
> and reducers, but not a small orifice check valve so far.
> 
> TIA
> --
> Casey
> Biodiesel:
> '87 300TD intercooler (206k)
> '84 300D (202k)
> Gashuffer:
> '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
> Olympia, WA
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Re: [MBZ] 140's, new cars, degrading wiring etc

[John M McIntosh]

Yawn, it's late just finished a 3 hour highway drive in the w140,  
really nice to drive. So lets see...


a) 92/93+ had shimmy problems, fixed that by redoing suspension  
system which lowered the car an inch or so.
b) expect the oem expensive blower regulator to fail, third-party or  
later regulators come with bigger heat sinks
c) boshe vacuum pump () under passenger rear seat packs it in,  
that controls trunk & door locks
d) biodegradable wiring, this might have changed in 98? Someone on  
benzworld.org had a 600SEL with an older throttle actuator with  
toasted wiring, yet
the other throttle actuator made in 98 was fine and had different  
color wire.  http://www.mbnz.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp? 
tid=1202133&start=1&fid=13


Some options where deleted in 95 (I think) then added back, really  
you want a 98 or 99 which apparently fixes many things.


On 29-Jul-05, at 6:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

OK, need to start looking for another 140 pretty soon for the  
wife.  My
old 93 was pretty good, had the typical ac evaporator problem which  
was

fixed under warranty.  Im trying to refresh my memory about the 140's
and newer cars in general.  I do remmeber the 92 and 93 had some  
sort of
suspension problem that should have been fixed by now on all them.   
What

about the AC evap problem, is it on all 140's?  Next question, what
about the biodegradable wiring that degrades too fast?  Was talking  
to a
dude who said in fact 92, and maybe 93's were good in the fact that  
they

still have the good old fashioned wiring. So what years are affected
with this problem?  I have also noticed it seemed like some of the  
later

ones, past about 96, didnt have as many options as the earlier ones.
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  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
  85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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1993 500SEL 166k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

Re: [MBZ] Stop me please before I do something I will regret

[Steve MacSween]

Every older car has a GOTCHA in terms of some inane part that floors you
when you get the price quote.

Until today, I would have said my Volvo 164e was the exception to that
rule... until I called the dealer for a water pump... $353 Cdn. Ha ha ha ha
ha, etc. Even the aftermarket is $135.

Anyway, stuff like an ignition module you look for on eBay and grab
secondhand and keep for a rainy day.

I would have thought the biggest gotcha on that car would be the climate
control servo. Followed by the tranny, which does not sound like a winning
proposition at all.

What you have there, in my experience, is a $1k car fixing to be a $2.5k car
in fairly short order.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have never seen one go bad.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> In a message dated 7/29/2005 12:36:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> 
>> On an errand this morning, saw a 450SEL with a for sale, $1200.
>> Looked
>> pretty nice, blue/blue, paint a bit faded, a few dings here and there,
>> interior nice.  Called the guy, it's a 77, 120k miles or so, A/C
>> working
>> but might need a recharge, tranny takes a few minutes to start shifting
>> right but then OK, he's owned it since 81, all service at Enzo Luzo's
>> place in that time.  Probably get it for $1k.
>> 
>> Check the price of an ignitor module for this car, part of the spark
>> ignition system.  I think they fail every 50-60 K miles!  In fact, go to
>> Rusty's site and put in that year and model and just look at stuff like
>> injectors, plug wires, tune up kits, etc.
>> 
>> That'll stop you.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Jim Friesen
>> Phoenix AZ
>> 79 300SD, 261 K miles
>> 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] German cars

[redghost]

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18303&item=4564427106&rd=1  --Short  
wheelbase MOG  1956


http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18304&item=4564450620&rd=1  --P/U for  
Casey


http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60985&item=4564424637&rd=1  --108 w/ 617


http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60985&item=4564467571&rd=1  --107  S D


http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60985&item=4564482552&rd=1  --110 w/ 616


http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60991&item=4565413005&rd=1  --Klebs  
summer job


http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60985&item=4564241641&rd=1  --Finny w/  
616 5 spd


http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45644&item=4565518126&rd=1  --For Jan


http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60985&item=4564000397&rd=1  --Pullman


http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9897&item=4565217318&rd=1  --Million


Not going to look for Craiglist cars today.  Too much fun with the  
stuff 8 thousand miles away.  Fellow claims you can ship one of the  
above over here for around $1500



--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

[redghost]

Seattle is a world unto itself.  Steve Jobs has nothing on the reality 
distortion field surrounding King County.  I just reports whats I sees


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 09:22 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


Dude, you live in an alternative alternative version of the
Northwest--the Faux News version.

On 7/29/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

you forget, I live in the hotbed of liberal, lesbian, who needs a mans
penis to procreate? Northwest.  The poor are farmers, conservative
farmers, not on welfare.  The rich are pink and happy, allowing the
alternatives to frolic, as long as they do not have to actually deal
with them.  "Buster has two mothers" is considered public education in
town


Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k)
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

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Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[redghost]

Ship it, DO NOT DRIVE.  Kaleb will swoop down and offer you low cash to 
take it when it breaks down on the drive back.  I think he has a Benz 
breaker ray for all eBay cars that drive through OK


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 08:37 PM, JJJ wrote:


i did...now gotta get it from houston to spokane...
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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] Stop me please before I do something I will regret

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have never seen one go bad.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 7/29/2005 12:36:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


On an errand this morning, saw a 450SEL with a for sale, $1200.  
Looked

pretty nice, blue/blue, paint a bit faded, a few dings here and there,
interior nice.  Called the guy, it's a 77, 120k miles or so, A/C
working
but might need a recharge, tranny takes a few minutes to start shifting
right but then OK, he's owned it since 81, all service at Enzo Luzo's
place in that time.  Probably get it for $1k.

Check the price of an ignitor module for this car, part of the spark 
ignition system.  I think they fail every 50-60 K miles!  In fact, go to 
Rusty's site and put in that year and model and just look at stuff like 
injectors, plug wires, tune up kits, etc. 
 
That'll stop you.
 
Regards,
 
Jim Friesen

Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles
98 ML 320, 137 K miles




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Re: [MBZ] eBay issues

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no. hardly at all

Craig McCluskey wrote:


On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:52:15 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



that is what my thought is, he is still getting a good deal.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Why not take the money they are offering you and keep the stupid
vacuum  pump?  The thing is just gonna get used anyways so what
difference does  it make as long as it works? I have one of those
pumps, they last  forever... Don't waste time worrying about it. Good
luck   -Dan 



Don't read very well, do ya?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] eBay issues

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

oh, I guess I did miss that part.  So did they offer to send it back?

OK Don wrote:

You both missed the point that he's sent the pump back to her to get a 
refund, which hasn't materialized.


On 7/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


that is what my thought is, he is still getting a good deal.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 > Why not take the money they are offering you and keep the stupid
vacuum
 > pump?  The thing is just gonna get used anyways so what
difference does
 > it make as long as it works? I have one of those pumps, they last
 > forever... Don't waste time worrying about it. Good luck   -Dan
 >


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Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no money?

OK Don wrote:


So, why didn't you buy it

On 7/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-SL-Class-450SL-10704412023162_W0QQitemZ4564371380QQcategoryZ6338QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


--


--
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Norman, OK
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
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Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

hell, not sure if I want to. I drilled on it for a while, but gave up, 
have not got back to it yet.


redghost wrote:


Get off your assets and fix it then

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



Runs excellent, tranny excellent, I think it has a factory crate engine
in it.  Would take more than that to pry it out of my hands.

redghost wrote:


Does it run/look fine otherwise?  How much hassle is it to fix?  I 
will

give you um...  $150 for it

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:




its a 74 240D, its the car with the bolts that broke loose for
passenger
rear shock.  Have not decided to fix the car or part the car.

redghost wrote:




You have a whole bunch of room for more cars.  Looks like you have a
Gump version there, that green 114/115






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Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

good idea.  Need something quick and easy anyways, dont have much time 
between getting up, getting read, and heading out the door.


redghost wrote:

Very true.  Maybe you need to keep a box of powerbars or "Car Treats" 
in the Trader vehicle so that your body gets something to work with.  
Cereal bar and some water


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



I was told that before, bascially when I do eat it stores everything
because it thinks it wont eat again for a while.

redghost wrote:



You do not eat breakfast early enough.  If you have nothing to jump
start the process the body goes into conservation mode instead of
running.  Sort of like limp home mode.  Eat first thing, then you
should burn calories throughout the day

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

  As of now (9pm) I



have not yet eaten my b-fast, much less lunch or dinner.  Wonder why
the
hell Im getting fat??




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[MBZ] The Kaleb Award

[redghost]

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60985&item=4564840870&rd=1


To be given to the lister who finds the most bestest deal on the  
worstest looking heap


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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[Rich Thomas]

*"THE EXUST MUFLER IS QUITE"

--R
*
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-SL-Class-450SL-10704412023162_W0QQitemZ4564371380QQcategoryZ6338QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 

Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

[BenzBarn]

My observations are that conservatives like to usurp power from you. Even 
though they invent trade deals that put people out of work, they bitch about 
the lazy people they just put out of work. They seem to be intolerable of 
anyone outside of WASP's or at least English speaking white folks with money. 
They also hate unions, school teachers, anyone who makes more money than they 
do except well educated conservative anal types, gays, immigrants, people on 
welfare, big cities ( where are the liberals live ) except the rich areas, and 
of course, people who don't go to church..

 Pretty much rules me and half the population out around here. And we all speak 
English and are pretty white, but have no real money.

Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

[BenzBarn]

All paths to hell were ( are ) paved with good intentions.

  Can't say I trust big corporations any more than big government. Saying that 
however, I question those who do ALL business in cash. I'll take it, but still 
sort of wonder about them, a bit

Re: [MBZ] MOOSE, was deer

[BenzBarn]

They probably bought the booze down south and wanted to finish it all before
crossing the border where it would be taxable or taken away from them.

Dan

Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 7/29/2005 7:11:41 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

its a 74  240D, its the car with the bolts that broke loose for passenger 
rear  shock.  Have not decided to fix the car or part the  car.



Kaleb,
 
I had one of these and drove it 145,000 miles after I overhauled it.   It 
NEVER let me down.  And my son drove while going to school, couldn't  afford 
insurance on his 73 Camaro!  He couldn't break the 240D either,  tough old car!
 
Smoked a lot on ski trips to Tahoe, though, as this year doesn't have the  
ADA.
 
By the way, looks like you have a nice cross section of colors out  there!
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 137 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] A/C Woes...the saga continues...

[72benz250]

Sorry about that. Was in bit of a rush.

And Joe is right they did move to http://www.acsource.net/acforum/


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> > If you want to diagnose this yourslef there is a great group with some 
> > real experts to when it comes to AC. The group is on 
> > www.aircondtion.com. 
> 
> I entered this URL in my browser and all I got was a blank page. 
> 
> Huh? 
> 
> 
> Craig 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[OK Don]

Fly to Houston, drive it home???

On 7/29/05, JJJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> so...anyone have any ideas about shipping?
> 



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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

[Zeitgeist]

Dude, you live in an alternative alternative version of the
Northwest--the Faux News version.

On 7/29/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you forget, I live in the hotbed of liberal, lesbian, who needs a mans
> penis to procreate? Northwest.  The poor are farmers, conservative
> farmers, not on welfare.  The rich are pink and happy, allowing the
> alternatives to frolic, as long as they do not have to actually deal
> with them.  "Buster has two mothers" is considered public education in
> town

Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] Stop me please before I do something I will regret

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 7/29/2005 12:36:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On an  errand this morning, saw a 450SEL with a for sale, $1200.   Looked  
pretty nice, blue/blue, paint a bit faded, a few dings here and there,  
interior nice.  Called the guy, it's a 77, 120k miles or so, A/C  working 
but might need a recharge, tranny takes a few minutes to start  shifting 
right but then OK, he's owned it since 81, all service at Enzo  Luzo's 
place in that time.  Probably get it for  $1k.



Check the price of an ignitor module for this car, part of the spark  
ignition system.  I think they fail every 50-60 K miles!  In fact, go  to 
Rusty's 
site and put in that year and model and just look at stuff like  injectors, 
plug 
wires, tune up kits, etc. 
 
That'll stop you.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 137 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[JJJ]

i did...now gotta get it from houston to spokane...

Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

[redghost]

you forget, I live in the hotbed of liberal, lesbian, who needs a mans 
penis to procreate? Northwest.  The poor are farmers, conservative 
farmers, not on welfare.  The rich are pink and happy, allowing the 
alternatives to frolic, as long as they do not have to actually deal 
with them.  "Buster has two mothers" is considered public education in 
town


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 08:18 PM, OK Don wrote:

Then you'd be surprised at how conservative the really poor welfare 
receiving folk are -- they're the ones who elected our current crop of 
"leaders".


On 7/29/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I suspect the liberals are winning.  Conservatives choose compatible
mates, but the liberals have all the single mothers spitting out
illegitimate kids and sucking on the public teat.  No actual need to
know the genetic/philosophical bent of the sperm donor.

I wonder how genetics affects diesel ownership


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Re: [MBZ] eBay issues

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:52:15 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> that is what my thought is, he is still getting a good deal.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Why not take the money they are offering you and keep the stupid
> > vacuum  pump?  The thing is just gonna get used anyways so what
> > difference does  it make as long as it works? I have one of those
> > pumps, they last  forever... Don't waste time worrying about it. Good
> > luck   -Dan 

Don't read very well, do ya?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Stop me please before I do something I will regret

[OK Don]

A dozen is probably enough -- 

On 7/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  Sounds like people are getting Sanford and Son Syndrome... I know it is 
> tempting to buy all these cheap Benz's but how many do you really need? 
> 

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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] eBay issues

[OK Don]

You both missed the point that he's sent the pump back to her to get a 
refund, which hasn't materialized.

On 7/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> that is what my thought is, he is still getting a good deal.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Why not take the money they are offering you and keep the stupid vacuum
> > pump? The thing is just gonna get used anyways so what difference does
> > it make as long as it works? I have one of those pumps, they last
> > forever... Don't waste time worrying about it. Good luck -Dan
> >
> 

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Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

[OK Don]

Then you'd be surprised at how conservative the really poor welfare 
receiving folk are -- they're the ones who elected our current crop of 
"leaders".

On 7/29/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I suspect the liberals are winning. Conservatives choose compatible
> mates, but the liberals have all the single mothers spitting out
> illegitimate kids and sucking on the public teat. No actual need to
> know the genetic/philosophical bent of the sperm donor.
> 
> I wonder how genetics affects diesel ownership
> 
> 
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Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] for some reason, I just dont trust this seller

[Slozukimc]

In a message dated 7/29/2005 10:34:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-SE-Mercedes-Benz-400se_W0QQitemZ4563587899QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Says they'll take cash in person.Who knows   Mike

Re: [MBZ] For some reason, I really like this car

[OK Don]

So, why didn't you buy it

On 7/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-SL-Class-450SL-10704412023162_W0QQitemZ4564371380QQcategoryZ6338QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> --
> 

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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] for some reason, I just dont trust this seller

[redghost]

Hee eeess vairee goood meekanic hev chianedged thees motor from noo 
when gots it



On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 08:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


And this dude expects me to believe he rebuilt this engine?  Come on.

redghost wrote:


Sounds like Pepe le'Pew describing the car

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-SE-Mercedes-
Benz-400se_W0QQitemZ4563587899QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] Boost line check valve?

[Zeitgeist]

Ya, that's the only check valve I'm aware of, but I'd like to find a
smaller ID version to insert into a 3mm plastic pressure line.

On 7/29/05, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think many cars have such a valve in the hose that feeds from the intake
> manifold to the brake booster. I had a problem with one in an 81 Honda
> Civic. It would freeze up when cold and leave one with the impression that
> there were no brakes - there were - just not power brakes until it warmed up
> under the hood a bit and unfroze. A new hose with the valve somewhere inside
> solved the problem.
> 
> Randy in Winnipeg

Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[redghost]

Get off your assets and fix it then

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Runs excellent, tranny excellent, I think it has a factory crate engine
in it.  Would take more than that to pry it out of my hands.

redghost wrote:

Does it run/look fine otherwise?  How much hassle is it to fix?  I 
will

give you um...  $150 for it

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



its a 74 240D, its the car with the bolts that broke loose for
passenger
rear shock.  Have not decided to fix the car or part the car.

redghost wrote:



You have a whole bunch of room for more cars.  Looks like you have a
Gump version there, that green 114/115







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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA


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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[Dan Weeks]

Aha! Good for you. Well, that explains where a lot of your great 
leads on cars comes from


Dan

Well I work for trader publishing(aka autotrader) which I usually 
drive 150-200 miles per week.  When I get done with that job in the 
afternoon I have a couple of massive newspaper routes which I drive 
another 100 miles(so we are up to at least 250 miles per day).  Then 
when I get home in the evening I list parts, sell parts, run email 
lists etc.  On the weekends I work on car projects, strip cars down 
to be crushed, or head out of town to pick up more cars.  And 
sometimes during all that I try and find time to eat and spend time 
with the family.  As of now (9pm) I have not yet eaten my b-fast, 
much less lunch or dinner.  Wonder why the hell Im getting fat??


Dan Weeks wrote:

So Kaleb, what is it you do that you drive 200 miles a day, have a 
home office, and do a brisk trade in MBZs? Do you have a real job, 
or are you a member of the freelance nation like me?


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Freelance Writing and Photography
515/279-4825
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[redghost]

Very true.  Maybe you need to keep a box of powerbars or "Car Treats" 
in the Trader vehicle so that your body gets something to work with.  
Cereal bar and some water


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I was told that before, bascially when I do eat it stores everything
because it thinks it wont eat again for a while.

redghost wrote:


You do not eat breakfast early enough.  If you have nothing to jump
start the process the body goes into conservation mode instead of
running.  Sort of like limp home mode.  Eat first thing, then you
should burn calories throughout the day

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

   As of now (9pm) I


have not yet eaten my b-fast, much less lunch or dinner.  Wonder why
the
hell Im getting fat??




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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA


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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] another texas SDL for clay

[redghost]

Red just drives me crazy in a car.  For some unknown reason I have  
hated red interiors all my life.  It looks like a fine car.  Trouble  
would be that I fly down, drive it so far, then  you have to fetch it,  
and it is gonna be farther away than Wichita this time



On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


even got the seats greased up for ya

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-SDL-87-TEXAS- 
LUXURY-SEDAN-TURBO-DIESEL-LEATHER-LOW- 
RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4564295188QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainImag 
e

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Re: [MBZ] OT: WI DNR

[OK Don]

The government is more likely to sell logging and mineral rights to big 
corporations -- -- not very land friendly.

On 7/29/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "Good intentions (save the planet) but history has demonstrated that
> private land owners have done a far better job of preserving the
> environment than government ever has."
> 
> Where's your evidence for this? I know of some exceptions but most
> would argue that the opposite is the rule. The National Parks are
> still pretty spectacular by all accounts.
> 
> 
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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC

Re: [MBZ] A/C Woes...the saga continues...

[Royce Engler]

Try this www.aircondition.com   Always check the spelling of a link if
it doesn't work.

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K



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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Woes...the saga continues...


> If you want to diagnose this yourslef there is a great group with some
> real experts to when it comes to AC. The group is on
> www.aircondtion.com.

I entered this URL in my browser and all I got was a blank page.

Huh?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] for some reason, I just dont trust this seller

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

And this dude expects me to believe he rebuilt this engine?  Come on.

redghost wrote:


Sounds like Pepe le'Pew describing the car

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-SE-Mercedes- 
Benz-400se_W0QQitemZ4563587899QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] for some reason, I just dont trust this seller

[redghost]

Sounds like Pepe le'Pew describing the car

On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-SE-Mercedes- 
Benz-400se_W0QQitemZ4563587899QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
  85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] '85 300D u-joint

[Luther Gulseth]

OK OK OK OK, I get the picture...

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:24:47 -0500, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



No, you need to replace the driveshaft complete, or send it off to
someone that can re-center and strake in place a new u-joint.  DO NOT
replace it yourself, it will shake horribly.  I did one, won't ever do
another.  There is at least one place who can do them right, but the
charge $650 (six or seven years ago) for the job.

A used driveshaft is about $100 most places -- pull the front half off
and check for that tight spot before installing, and return it if it's
there.

Peter


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'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)

Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Runs excellent, tranny excellent, I think it has a factory crate engine 
in it.  Would take more than that to pry it out of my hands.


redghost wrote:

Does it run/look fine otherwise?  How much hassle is it to fix?  I will 
give you um...  $150 for it


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


its a 74 240D, its the car with the bolts that broke loose for 
passenger

rear shock.  Have not decided to fix the car or part the car.

redghost wrote:



You have a whole bunch of room for more cars.  Looks like you have a
Gump version there, that green 114/115







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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA


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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Stop me please before I do something I will regret

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

We(well I) am just a sicko, or is that psycho?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sounds like people are getting Sanford and Son Syndrome... I know it is 
tempting to buy all these cheap Benz's but how many do you really need?  
You can only drive one at a time and they take so much work to fix up 
and keep running right as they get to be antiques... -Dan
 
 
In a message dated 7/29/2005 8:38:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I would go after that one before the 116

Potter, Tom E wrote:

 > Oh, the agony. I go through it at least once a week. There is a
nice '82
 > 300CD here in Houston for $1500 that I can barely restrain myself
from
 > going to look at "buy." I feel your pain!
 >
 > Thomas E. Potter
 > Telephone: (713) 215-2877
 > Fax: (713) 215-2551
 > Mobile: (832) 794-0536
 >
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas
 > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:37 PM
 > To: Mercedes mailing list
 > Subject: [MBZ] Stop me please before I do something I will regret
 >
 >
 > On an errand this morning, saw a 450SEL with a for sale, $1200.  
Looked

 >
 > pretty nice, blue/blue, paint a bit faded, a few dings here and
there,
 > interior nice.  Called the guy, it's a 77, 120k miles or so, A/C
working
 >
 > but might need a recharge, tranny takes a few minutes to start
shifting
 > right but then OK, he's owned it since 81, all service at Enzo
Luzo's
 > place in that time.  Probably get it for $1k.
 >
 > Stop me please.
 >
 > --R
 > 





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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[redghost]

Does it run/look fine otherwise?  How much hassle is it to fix?  I will 
give you um...  $150 for it


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

its a 74 240D, its the car with the bolts that broke loose for 
passenger

rear shock.  Have not decided to fix the car or part the car.

redghost wrote:


You have a whole bunch of room for more cars.  Looks like you have a
Gump version there, that green 114/115







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Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] OM601 injection pump timing

[Dave M.]

Another clarification... when timing with the wet method (bubble,
drip) you set it to 24°BTDC, but when timing with the special tools or
mirror method, set to 15°ATDC. Big difference! Just hope you don't
need to R&R the pump to correct a 4°+ error... that's no fun on a 601
(or so I'm told.)

:-)

-- 
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 94kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline)

> --
> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:45:01 -0400
> From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM601 injection pump timing
>
> 
> The locking tool is a little easier once you've done it several times
> and it works on ALL of my cars. But IF your pump doesn't have the
> provision for using the locking tool the bubble method ALWAYS works -
> with or without a hand pump or the provision to use the locking tool.
> 
> The wet methods all require that the injection pump be filled with fuel
> and this can't be guaranteed without a hand pump. The bubble method
> works perfectly without the hand pump but you do have to remove the
> delivery valve and disturbing it CAN create a problem (the "O" ring or
> the valve sealing may fail - and I've even seen a valve plunger snapped
> in half). The locking tool method is very simple but required a couple
> of tries before I was sure of what I was doing. For all of MY engines
> (except my 2.5 normally aspirated), 24 (+/- 1) BTDC is correct.
> 
> Should you need to remove the injection pump to reset the timing more
> than 4-6 degrees, you will need to remove the oil filter housing ;-(
> 
> Marshall

Re: [MBZ] Stop me please before I do something I will regret

[DANTERR9]

Sounds like people are getting Sanford and Son Syndrome... I know it is 
tempting to buy all these cheap Benz's but how many do you really need?  You 
can 
only drive one at a time and they take so much work to fix up and keep running 
right as they get to be antiques... -Dan


In a message dated 7/29/2005 8:38:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would go after that one before the 116

Potter, Tom E wrote:

> Oh, the agony. I go through it at least once a week. There is a nice '82
> 300CD here in Houston for $1500 that I can barely restrain myself from
> going to look at "buy." I feel your pain!
> 
> Thomas E. Potter
> Telephone: (713) 215-2877
> Fax: (713) 215-2551
> Mobile: (832) 794-0536
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:37 PM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: [MBZ] Stop me please before I do something I will regret
> 
> 
> On an errand this morning, saw a 450SEL with a for sale, $1200.   Looked
> 
> pretty nice, blue/blue, paint a bit faded, a few dings here and there, 
> interior nice.  Called the guy, it's a 77, 120k miles or so, A/C working
> 
> but might need a recharge, tranny takes a few minutes to start shifting 
> right but then OK, he's owned it since 81, all service at Enzo Luzo's 
> place in that time.  Probably get it for $1k.
> 
> Stop me please.
> 
> --R
> 

Re: [MBZ] eBay issues

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

that is what my thought is, he is still getting a good deal.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why not take the money they are offering you and keep the stupid vacuum 
pump?  The thing is just gonna get used anyways so what difference does 
it make as long as it works? I have one of those pumps, they last 
forever... Don't waste time worrying about it. Good luck   -Dan 
 
In a message dated 7/29/2005 10:43:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:30 AM
To: mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] eBay issues

I bought a vacuum pump for air conditioning work from a seller on
eBay who
has a 100% positive feedback rating (with several sales). The auction
said, "Brand new in the box." The pump I received was definitely NOT
brand
new in the box.

The seller asked what I wanted so I said I wanted to return the pump at
her expense and get a brand new one like the auction said. She
offered to
refund $30 to $50 for me to keep the pump. I then decided I wanted to
return the pump and get my money back, including the shipping of the
pump
back to her. She said OK but that she couldn't refund my money until she
got the pump back.

Well, she's had it since last Friday and hasn't responded to my emails.

Any suggestions on what to do?

There was some mention earlier on this list about how long after an
auction closes one can leave feedback. I looked on the eBay site, but
could find no mention of it. Any idea where to look?


Thanks,


Craig




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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] eBay issues

[DANTERR9]

Why not take the money they are offering you and keep the stupid vacuum pump? 
 The thing is just gonna get used anyways so what difference does it make as 
long as it works? I have one of those pumps, they last forever... Don't waste 
time worrying about it. Good luck   -Dan 

In a message dated 7/29/2005 10:43:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:30 AM
To: mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] eBay issues

I bought a vacuum pump for air conditioning work from a seller on eBay who
has a 100% positive feedback rating (with several sales). The auction
said, "Brand new in the box." The pump I received was definitely NOT brand
new in the box.

The seller asked what I wanted so I said I wanted to return the pump at
her expense and get a brand new one like the auction said. She offered to
refund $30 to $50 for me to keep the pump. I then decided I wanted to
return the pump and get my money back, including the shipping of the pump
back to her. She said OK but that she couldn't refund my money until she
got the pump back.

Well, she's had it since last Friday and hasn't responded to my emails.

Any suggestions on what to do?

There was some mention earlier on this list about how long after an
auction closes one can leave feedback. I looked on the eBay site, but
could find no mention of it. Any idea where to look?


Thanks,


Craig

Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I was told that before, bascially when I do eat it stores everything 
because it thinks it wont eat again for a while.


redghost wrote:

You do not eat breakfast early enough.  If you have nothing to jump 
start the process the body goes into conservation mode instead of 
running.  Sort of like limp home mode.  Eat first thing, then you 
should burn calories throughout the day


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

   As of now (9pm) I

have not yet eaten my b-fast, much less lunch or dinner.  Wonder why 
the

hell Im getting fat??




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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA


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 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] view out back from my office window

[redghost]

You do not eat breakfast early enough.  If you have nothing to jump 
start the process the body goes into conservation mode instead of 
running.  Sort of like limp home mode.  Eat first thing, then you 
should burn calories throughout the day


On Friday, July 29, 2005, at 07:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

  As of now (9pm) I
have not yet eaten my b-fast, much less lunch or dinner.  Wonder why 
the

hell Im getting fat??



--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] eBay issues

[Scott Levengood]

Craig,

I've had similar situations in which I contacted Paypal when that is how I
paid.  The best route to contact them is by using the toll free number that
is not easily found without doing a little digging.  If you have paid
through Paypal via credit card, you may also want to contact the credit card
company to initiate a chargeback.  I would also recommend opening a case
with Squaretrade.  So far, I have always been able to get my money back or
get things straightened out.  Good luck!

Sincerely,

-Scott Levengood




 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:30 AM
To: mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] eBay issues

I bought a vacuum pump for air conditioning work from a seller on eBay who
has a 100% positive feedback rating (with several sales). The auction
said, "Brand new in the box." The pump I received was definitely NOT brand
new in the box.

The seller asked what I wanted so I said I wanted to return the pump at
her expense and get a brand new one like the auction said. She offered to
refund $30 to $50 for me to keep the pump. I then decided I wanted to
return the pump and get my money back, including the shipping of the pump
back to her. She said OK but that she couldn't refund my money until she
got the pump back.

Well, she's had it since last Friday and hasn't responded to my emails.

Any suggestions on what to do?

There was some mention earlier on this list about how long after an
auction closes one can leave feedback. I looked on the eBay site, but
could find no mention of it. Any idea where to look?


Thanks,


Craig

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