Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Al.
Sadly even the Pope needed/needs a bullet proof Benz.
Fred Moir
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> < political issues, especially having to do with energy, oil, etc. They are 
> like, 
> you know, experts!>>
> 
Well, Letterman has an automotive connection but who-is-mandy-moore?

RLE
> 
> 

[MBZ] Semi-OT Manual

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Rummaging among my books, found an 81 Rabbit Owners Manual gas/diesel.
Free for the asking.
Fred Moir
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"Democracy is based on the assumption that a million men are wiser than one 
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"Autocracy is based on the assumption that one man is wiser than a million men. 
Let's play that over again too. Who decides?"
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All youz guyz talkin' poly-tics should talk to LT Don and ask him about the 
man he's backing.
Sounds like a fella with a clue.so he probably has no chance, sadly.

Bob R.



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> Even though you didn;t ask me, I like the looks & sounds of Sen. Brownback
> (Ks) although it;s much too early to know for certain who will or won't
> actually be running, he's in the early stages of a campaign.
>
> He's a supporter of the Constitution - a rarity these days.
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> So whom do you like, Mitch?  Please don't say John McCain...
>>
>> On 1/26/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob DuPuy wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It never ceases to amaze me that the same "Bush is infringing on my
>>> > freedoms" crowed are also the same folks that advocate the Dem
>>> > policies of cradle to grave socialism and government control over even
>>> > the must mundane aspects of life.
>>>
>>> If you're talking about me, you're way, way, off base. I think the
>>> above comment is off base in general. The dems who hate Bush because
>>> they think he's conservative probably WANT to think gov't is there
>>> to protect them. The libertarian leaning types used to think they
>>> hated democrap politicians more than repugnicants, but Bush II changed
>>> that for me. Now the only thing I hate more than a commie socialist like
>>> Ted Kennedy is a national socialist like GWB. My uncle nearly died at
>>> the Battle of the Bulge so people in europe wouldn't have to be subject
>>> to Bushist policies, and now we have an administration here that thinks
>>> it can disappear you to Cuba at a whim.
>>>
>>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Head gasket sealant?

[Frederick Moir]

A lot of guys swear by Hylomar.  YMMV.

Used it on my 2.5DT, good results so far.

Fred Moir
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Subject: [MBZ] my 280CE destroyed by gang bangers
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my 79 280CE was vandalized to the point of destruction this weekend by
members of this organization:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_18

upon discovery this morning, i called both state farm insurance and the de
kalb county police department.  i have since again called the de kalb county
police department.  as of 3pm, i have no response from either on this
matter.

as a "good citizen", i am expected to pay my "fair share" for costs of
government.  i am expected to pay health care, education, imprisonment, etc
for these gang bangers (and probably illegals) who destroyed my car in a
parking lot in plain site of one of the busiest thoroughfares in the atlanta
metropolitan area.  and when i ask my government to take a police report on
this matter (i am not even so unreasonable as to ask them to actually take
an interest in the gang perpetrators who are likely not even supposed to be
in this country), they basically tell me "don't call us, we'll call you".

so now i'm waiting for them to call for six hours.

can any of you honestly say that we still have a country here?

I grew up an ardent patriot and defender of the united states as the
greatest nation the world has ever know.

now i grow more and more disgusted to be an american every single day.

my country is just a passport and a shakedown.

[MBZ] 1990 560SEL

[Frederick Moir]

Ahoy! Mateys.
Mass Want ADvertiser. 1990 Mercedes 560SEL for parts only. barely runs. 
Overheats and no acceleration. Lea. seats ok cond, electronics ok gd tires. A 
few dings, nothing bad. Radiator is done & timing belt is about to go. Brakes, 
trans & all other parts are in good cond. $500/bo (Medfield) (cell) 
508-254-8961.
No Affiliation etc.
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This is to complete the job.

http://enigo.com/l?jJ

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[MBZ] VW Dasher

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Had one. Loved it. Check for rust under rear seat esp. passenger side. 
Frame rot you don't want or need. other wise a 55mph ~ 50 mpg cruiser. I drove 
mine at 70+ and did for two engines, gave it to a friend who cooked the engine 
on the way to Florida. Said that he could not understand why it would barely do 
80 all the time!
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I was behind an E320 --> BLUETEC today.  First one I have seen with 
that designation.  A bit before that I was behind an E320 > CDI.  I 
don't know if this badging aspect of Bluetec was covered in the recent 
discussion or not.

I was also behind and in front of a blue Checker Marathon that provided 
massages to Goddesses and Womyn, and it had the bright lights on the 
whole time and no apparent working turn indicator lights.  The driver 
definitely did not appear to be the former, and I am also somewhat 
unsure about the latter aspect.

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[MBZ] 560sel Grey interior

[Frederick Moir]

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It was a tab on Craigslist/Boston that was a "forward this to someone else" 
type of thing. Other than than that, no clue. (my usual state)
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Fred-it come through form you.
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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Frederick Moir]

Loved his feedback ratio!
"Would you buy a used car from this man?"
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Marshall,

I agree that wash down is not a problem in a fuel injected car because
of the way the fuel is managed - the fuel is sprayed into the manifold,
usually well into the manifold & is well atomized.

But it is a problem in carbureted cars, even Mercedes. Gasoline wash
down is caused by fuel condensing out of the charge - the same process
is what makes carburetor chokes a necessity. If fuel condensing out of
the charge were not an issue then carbureted cars would only have a high
speed idle & would not need a choke for cold starting. The choke
enriches the fuel mixture to make up for the fuel that is condensed out
of the charge. But the fuel droplets tend to be larger when the choke is
closed & this actually adds to the problem.

Carbureted Mercedes gas engines do not wear out AS FAST, not because
gasoline wash down is not an issue but because the engines are made from
much harder steel then the mild iron American engines. Also, American
engines through the early 70's tend to be tuned richer for performance &
driveability. Tuning rich also adds to the problem.

Tom Hargrave
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Tom Hargrave wrote:
> And Mobile 1 won't help a bit if the issue is gasoline wash down. The
issue
> is not lack of oil pressure at start up. The issue is oil that's
coating the
> cylinder walls being diluted with fuel condensate because the cylinder
walls
> are cold at start up. No-one's oil (synthetic or otherwise) protects
against
> this.

That's seldom a problem in a well engineered and maintained engine. The 
cylinder walls of MOST well cared for Mercedes engines aren't seriously 
worn even after a quarter or even a half a million miles although using 
a synthetic might improve that slightly. Synthetics really do reduce 
most cold accelerated bearing wear (and other friction caused wear).

Marshall
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[MBZ] Brake Theories

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
It's too cold and windy to go out and check my brakes on the 190DT, so I'll ask 
dumb questions in the warm.
Whilst driving yesterday I heard a right rear brake scrape when nearly stopped. 
Looked thru the wheel, nothing. The brakes were done about 2 months ago, by me, 
new disks and pads and shoes from Rusty (All Hail Rusty!), so the only things 
that I can think of are:- Seized caliper or blocked hose or? All comments 
reviewed for content.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

 
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FYI - Didn't give the mileage.  Any interest I could look at it and take
pictures, but call him first.  
My nephew is a local mechanic who is familiar with MB's and works on my
300SD.  He could do a once over on it if there is serious interest.
BillR

1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD
1981 Mercedes Benz 300CD - Green Ext. with Beige Int.- Body in good
condition - Int. needs a little work - Asking $1,500.00
Accessories:
Hard Top, Power Steering, Power Windows, Cruise Control, $1,500.00
Name: David
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[MBZ] OT Re Wimmin

[Frederick Moir]

My wife says that she will trade me in, sight unseen!
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Though the local chapter of the "Playa's Union" is saying: Comon, Dawg, wee
need to talk!

Brian
Playas Union - taking back manhood in the 21st century


On 2/10/07, Billr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Brian - 1st, keep in mind that I am retired and an early riser - and enjoy
> the physical contact.
> #1  My bride of 32 years would rather stay up late and sleep until noon,
> but
> has to leave for work by 7:30 AM.  One of the things I have done for her
> is
> become her alarm clock for a time - only I use a back rub.  10 - 20
> minutes
> every morning.  We both enjoyed it enough that it lasted for a year [4
> months out now because of botched surgery and a fall breaking her humerus
> in
> 5 places, and she still can't relax on her stomach].  I'd suggest a week
> to
> start.  I also found lotion with the fragrance of her favorite perfume
> [pretty cheap on eBay], but that does start to cost.
> #2  Another cheap and appreciated thing is flowers. Where I live there are
> flowers in the yard year around [had to take a foot off some Impatients
> last
> week], and one in an appropriate container in her car in the morning is a
> nice touch.  That won't work this time of year for many because of that
> pesky white stuff that tends to drop from the sky, but a stop in a field
> of
> flowers on occasion when you can is also a nice touch at other times.
> #3  I assume you already pre-warm her car on cold days - which is even
> appreciated down here when it drops down below 50.
> #4  Once more, being retired makes it easier, but I take flowers to her
> office every week, and we date every Friday, complete with my asking her
> out
> like I did when we were dating.  Sometimes that is at home with a nice set
> up and a dinner I cook or one we cook together.
>As many have discovered, what you invest your time and interest in
> becomes what you love [that is even biblical...].  That investment in your
> spouse is even more important than the invested time / energy / money in
> your Benz.  To turn around the often used phrase, when momma is happy,
> everybody is happy - especially me.
>By the way, I'm getting mine an immersion stick blender.  Not
> especially romantic [I think I have that convered already] and cheap
> enough,
> but something she wants [I listen to her], and a hand made card is easy
> and
> cheap, and means you cared more than walking into a store and buying the
> first card you saw.
> Good Luck - BillR
>
> BillR
> Jacksonville FL
> 1981 300SD  284k miles
>
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Speaking of trained: Can someone give me an idea as to what to get my wife
> for valentines (actually our first-date-anniversary is on the 12th and
> this
> seems to be what we really celebrate).
>
> Bear in mind that I literally don't have any money to play with right now.
>
> You have your challenge, men.
>
> Brian
>

Re: [MBZ] O.T- The Knack

[Frederick Moir]

Bob R et al.
  Thank you! I needed a good belly laugh!
  Wife rolled eyes though.
  TTFN
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> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
> > Were they underdriven? If you can find a cheap source for Luxeon Stars
> > (I see aluminum flashlights with 1W Luxeons for $18, so they must be
> > selling for well under $10 each now) you'll have all the lumens you
> > could possibly want (30-50 lumens per emitter). I bought one of the
> > cheap Dorcy lights (about a $18 item at W-mart) and it's not far shy of
> > a 2 or 3 cell Maglight. I believe you can now get a Maglight with 3W
> > Luxeon for about $30.
> > Mitch.
>
> My experience is that lightbulbs have a omnidirectional radiation pattern,
> where LED's have a pretty narrow cone of illumination (between 15 and 30
> degrees. MAYBE 45.), and the light pipes are not straight ahead of where
> the bulb sits
>
> -j.

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With some tweaking, the LED's can still be usedthe following might
help, even if wordy...

http://articles.mbz.org/interior/dashlights/

Tony Wirtel

Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[Frederick Moir]

Congratulations! Life is sweet.
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TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can't help but gloat. I'm a daddy!

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http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/spuds_debut

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Gloat away - you have earned that one.  I assume you are preparing a Benz 
for him to learn on and take over at the appropriate age...
My 'baby' just got a posting to Langley [USAF].
BillR
Jacksonville FL


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>I can't help but gloat. I'm a daddy!
>
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> oz, 21 inches of perfection.
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Re: [MBZ] Gun slits

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Alles.

"Windows look like gun slits to me."
How right you are! With the state of the world being what it is, maybe some 
people want that "I'm driving a Bradley and no one can get at me" feeling of 
security. Total nonsense of course. There is no absolute security, just levels 
of relative security.
My $0.02
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Gump is keeping her charge light on while I drive.  Not the bright 
light you get prior to starting, but a subtle little glow that just 
will not go out.

Is the battery going bad?  Might the alternator not be doing its job of 
feeding more volts back?  A short someplace quietly draining my 
battery?

Assistance needed.

1972 220D, 85 month battery bought new in 9/04,  fresh belt from Rusty 
in 11/06, started in the last cold snap when the light came and stayed 
on bright after starting her on a 20*f day


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1995 E300D - Cleo
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The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Hey, LT Don, are you OK up there?

[Frederick Moir]

So long as he carried a red flag and wore a top hat he would be OK.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > top speed. ... Heard a few moments ago 
(scanner) that they are having 
> guys
> walk in front of the blower truck and guide with hand signals so the 
> driver
> doesn't accidentally drive into a ditch.

Now _there's_ a job I don't want!  "Hey, where'd the guide
guy go" GRUUNCH!

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Werner,

You make a great case for moving from MD into D.C., which has a more
responsive DMV.  I did so in 1999.


On 3/2/07, Werner Fehlauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> You were lucky - in my case, the good folks at Glen Burnie would NOT
> accept
> the bill of sale from Academy Ford in Laurel, and went by their "blue
> book".
> What really griped me was the clod who "checked" the front shoe brakes by
> removing the drums, just dropping the bearing cone in the dirt.  Needless
> to
> say, I never went near that place again!
>
> Werner
>
> - Original Message -
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>
>
> >
> > Yep, that we do, but if you have a bill of sale they will go with that
> (or
> > $500, whatever is lower) for tax value.  Being held up depends upon the
> > inspector. Usually they do try on headlamp aim, but I have the older
> > "hoppy" garage type aimers-- good for anything with the three glass nubs
> > on the lens...
> >
> > The inspectors are licensed by the state and if they do anything too
> hinky
> > you can go to the MSP on them...
> >
> > BTW last time I got a car inspected it was at a stealership
> (deliberately)
> > and they found that the sway bar bushings were shot as was the engine
> > mounts.  Given the car developed a nasty vibe to it when in gear with
> the
> > brakes on (right on the way to the inspection, augh!) I knew about the
> > mounts. I didn't know that the bushings got bad (I thought all 210 front
> > ends rattled a bit on low speed bumpy roads)... Anyhow, the sway bar
> links
> > practically fell apart when I disassembled things! ... Oh yeah, they
> > mentioned the rear brakes would pass but only had about 3kmi left on
> > them.. I replaced them for good measure.
> >
> > Time before that was at a local gas station, and I saw a note for
> headlamp
> > aim (that was scratched out!) and that the high-beam indicator was not
> > working. Sure enough the thing had wiggled out of the socket. I popped
> it
> > back in and the guy looked and passed it on the spot.  I guess I am
> pretty
> > lucky.
> >
> > -j
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[MBZ] Carfax Please

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Could whoever has a current Carfax please run one on:-
vin WDBDA28D2PG090558 190E
TIA
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Just disassembled the little joystick in the center console that controls
the passenger side rear view mirror hoping to change the bulb.  (I'm on a
quest to get every interior light working in my 124.)  Picking through the
remains after the mandatory explosion of springs and other tiny parts, I
discovered that the bulb is not only soldered into place but also smaller
than the other little bulbs used throughout the console (e.g. in the air
vent adjuster wheels).  I can't find this little bulb on Rusty's site---is
this a Radio Shack item?  I hate to pay for a whole new switch.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] Carfax

[Frederick Moir]

Thank you, Kaleb.
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Does that mean that the Mac users are now only out-numbered 24.5 to 1?
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22 Million Mac OS X Users
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We often wonder how many of us there are. While Apple occasionally
shares the number of active Mac OS X users, it has been a while
since the last update. Eight months ago in August 2006 at Apple's
Worldwide Developers Conference, Steve Jobs said there were 19
million active Mac OS X users. Keith Bachman, an analyst at Bank of
America Securities, now quotes a higher number in an AppleInsider
article: 22 million users of all versions of Mac OS X. Bank of
America Securities estimates an increase of 6 million Mac users
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Re: [MBZ] 124 mirror adjuster light bulb

[Frederick Moir]

http://www.minute-man.com/acatalog/Grain_of_Wheat_Bulbs.html
Fred Moir
Lynn MA


It's a bulb and not an LED?  Finding grain-of-wheat bulbs can
be an interesting exercise at times.

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Truck). They did it for laughs but did the whole thorough test.
Fred Moir
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190DT started flawlessly this morning @ 7deg F, no block heater.(cord  gone) 

Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MB firetrucks and garbage trucks 
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They did a locomotive once also - it cornered "as if on rails".

On 3/6/07, Frederick Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Long ago and far away Road and Track did an article on the Mercedes GT 
> (Garbage Truck). They did it for laughs but did the whole thorough test.
> Fred Moir

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[MBZ] Odo reset 190DT

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
My odo is stuck between 000 and 009 and the button stayed down, the direct 
result of not thinking and resetting the odo while moving. I'd venture that is 
not so much a myth as not enough people have broken their odo whilst moving to 
convince the skeptics.
My $0.002
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT '87 140Kmi
300TD '85 ~140kmi

Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Craig McCluskey  writes:

> It's been mentioned countless times on this list that resetting the
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Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.

[Frederick Moir]

Greetings and Salutations.
This tool thread is oddly timely as I have been searching for a second (backup) 
of an Husky ratchet 22203 that is particularly useful, "handy" if you will.
I called Husky (Stanley) and the said that it was only available in sets at big 
box stores (House brand at Home Depot) and they would be glad to send me one 
for free. Well, it arrived yesterday, a close copy but made in China, not as my 
original, Made in the good old US of A!
"What ever you get for free is worth what you pay for it"
(forgot the attribution)
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD

Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "E M" 
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> Often times here, providing there is a head company address, it's
> not required to say where the product is produced. I find often when
> made in the US, the tend to stamp it with pride.  If no label, I
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Re: [MBZ] Cracked Cylinder Head

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Folks.
Rick, if it's the 190DT it may be the head gasket, that's what happened to mine 
after being a little overheated. While the head was off the valves, guides, and 
head surface were serviced, runs very well now.
If the 300CD, not sure what to tell you.
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT '87
300TD '85

Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What are the symptoms of a cracked 
cylinder head? I think I messed up...

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[MBZ] 83 300CD

[Frederick Moir]

Correct link
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Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!

[Frederick Moir]

No jeers, only a welcome to a fellow eedjit!
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[MBZ] 124 FSM

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Who has the 124 manuals on line? I've been gifted with 260E with 5 good cyls. 
and one dead one.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Info

[Frederick Moir]

Ed and Alex.
Ta very much for the info.
The gifter is my youngest daughter's best friend and I'm sort of "in loco 
parentis."
The gift was a surprise as I've been her reality reference vs. mechanics for 
some time. ( Something wrong with that statement, somehow.)
Again, Ta very much.
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Re: [MBZ] Rocker switch again

[Frederick Moir]

Picture?

wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know it's silly, but the 
completed MB rocker switch on the console, with
its "perfect" MB-looking scooter icon, really is neat.

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[MBZ] 190DT

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Anyine want to buy a low mileage (120Kmi.) 87 190DT?
In the last 2 years it has had:-
New exhaust complete.
New vacuum pump
Head gasket with skimmed head and valve work.
Brakes
Hoses
Euro headlights.
Radiator, now wrapped around the engine.
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190DT 120Kmi. Bent.
300TD 140Kmi.
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Re: [MBZ] 190DT

[Frederick Moir]

I think you are asking "where you at?"
Lynn MA
Rust central

Fred Moir
Lynn MA

Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wie Viel?

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Re: [MBZ] 190DT

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Rick & Robert et al.
Have not stopped cussing yet, so how much is still undecided.
Rust central:- both!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually it was, "how much".

Is "rust central" both a geographical location and a subtle commentary on
the 190?

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[MBZ] Re 190DT

[Frederick Moir]

Pic. Attached.

Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Frederick Moir wrote:
> 
> Hi, All.
> Anyine want to buy a low mileage (120Kmi.) 87 190DT?
> In the last 2 years it has had:-
> New exhaust complete.
> New vacuum pump
> Head gasket with skimmed head and valve work.
> Brakes
> Hoses

Mine was hit in the right front tire, so my left fender, hood, and grill
are OK. Star got vandalized later. Coolant leaks somewhere, I'm afraid it's a 
plastic part of the radiator. Did your headlights survive?

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Re: [MBZ] Re 190DT

[Frederick Moir]

Mitch et al.
Hit an Escort in RF wheel as she cut across in front of me at about 2 car 
lengths then froze. Just had time for an "Aw S**T! ABS chirped once and slam.
The front bumper and support are pushed down, Radiator suppport, horns, fans, 
condenser,radiator and fan, hood grill etc. etc.
This car has been hit before and the tin worm has bitten, so it is not worth 
fixing IMHO.
Now, if I could find a nice 92/93 300CE to convert to a 300CD 2.5 turbo?? Just 
dreaming.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Looks like it would be less work to fix your hood than to paint another one.
Fenders look good. 
Looks like you need grill, the top part of the bumper cover, a headlight,
and maybe fans/condensor/radiator?
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Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Could the parts, pump etc. be a leftover from some Bio-D attempt?
My $.02
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

   
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Primer pump leaks .

[Frederick Moir]

Geo. et al.
New style pump is direct replacement. stays ready to use and is sealed in use 
and "standby"
Hope you are feeling better.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT bent
300TD
260E motor work.

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Re: [MBZ] Decent 6.9 in Atlanta (now GTO)

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Gas, Tyres and Oil, Oh My!. In '78 mine would do 105 with a tailwind and 
downhill, however it got to 105 with great force. It was a 67 conv. that had 
been setup as a quarter mile bandit at the local speedway. HO 400 from the 
factory, His and Hurst (MB content?) shifter, engine was dead, rebuilt it, and 
it  was a guess as to whether it would start or set the carb. on fire! Shortly 
after I got it my lawyer asked me when I was getting divorced? He knew more 
than I thought!
"When I wore a younger mans clothes"
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
85 300TD
87 190DT Bent
1989 260E Under the knife

Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Rusty Cullens wrote:
> 
> My '68 topped out at 130mph. I did it one night racing a 72 Corvette on GA
> 400 before it opened in 1973.

Power or gearing limited?

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[MBZ] 2.5 DT

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Alles.
Quick question. What (if any) are the differences between an 87 190DT 602,961 
and a 91 300D 602.962 engines? Daydreaming idiot wants to know.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
85 300TD
87 190DT Bent
89 260E Soon to run!

   
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Re: [MBZ] 2.5 DT

[Frederick Moir]

Greetings and Salutations.
Thanks to, OK Don, Kaleb, John and Dr Marshall for the insights. Unfortunately 
the "body" that I was interested in has already exceeded my budget. Oh well, 
dream on.
Fred Moir
Dieselitis Maximus.

   
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Re: [MBZ] 2.5 DT

[Frederick Moir]

Mitch.
Now that's just cruel.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
85 300TD
87 190DT Bent
89 260E

Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Fred, in the Ann Arbor area (Ypsilanti MI) somebody has a '90 2.6
with a broken piston ring that they want $400 OBO for. I bet you wish
you were here. 
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Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues

[Frederick Moir]

Ralph W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hello All,
I've been following the recent 2.5 threads.
 I must also note that I believe I have a head gasket issue. Usual signs of oil 
in rad and anti-freeze usage. The car idles horrendously loud and shaky. 

Hi, All and Ralph W.
When my '87 2.5D blew the head gasket, it was that "The car idles horrendously 
loud and shaky" on 4 cylinders, though it ran well on the highway and ran about 
5-7 degrees warmer and used a little antifreeze. The head was cleaned and 
skimmed 0.007", new valve guide and valves gaskets, ( All hail Rusty!) etc.etc. 
Now 0-60mph is right on the money. measured 0-100kph in the 12 to 13 secs 
range. 5 tries both ways. It now idles with that well bred oily mutter of a 
fine diesel machine.
Total cost of parts and head skimming (did my own guides and seats) was less 
than $400 and that included 1 lifter, oil and filter, belt etc.
Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12

[Frederick Moir]

Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
There is ZERO personal accountability in the world today.

-Curt
Amen to that!!
With the possible exceptions of the people on this list and a few saints.
Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12

[Frederick Moir]

Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There is ZERO personal accountability 
in the world today.
> With the possible exceptions of the people on this list...

Whatchew mean, Willis?  There's no accounting for me at all!

-- Jim

As you well know, James, you are in both categories!
Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues

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Benzaholics.
Did no one get my double entendre?

 "It now idles with that well bred oily mutter of a fine diesel machine."
Fred Moir
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[MBZ] OT Curtis Hour Meter

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All. and Jim C.
In my archived parts (junkpile) there is a boxed, new and never used, solid 
state LCD 24v hour meter. Curtis#700RR00101224VDC, yours for the asking.
Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] Why no 2 stroke diesels

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 > archer wrote:
>> Germany built a three cylinder two cycle car,
>
> Who did that, DKW? NSU/Auto Union/Audi?
> The Saab had an oil measuring cup in the gas cap, I think you were 
> supposed
> to put regular 30W motor oil in it.
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Gerry 

DKW for sure, had a 3=6 DKW in Aden in the 60's
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Re: [MBZ] M103 vs OM603 vs OM617: Help me decide

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All, David & Allan.
The 260E ( 198Kmi.) M103.960, that was given to me with 5 cyl. is now running 
smooth and quiet on all six and burns no oil (M1 15W50)
Problem was #6 cyl. had a burnt exh valve. Also found that both sets of guides 
were very worn, all exh. valves had a groove around the sealing face, about 8 
to 10 thou. Replaced. All of the valve stem oil seals were akin to cheap 
plastic. The rear oil feed to the valve assy. was properly sealed, I checked 
because it is a known leaker, either into the water or out the pass. rear of 
the head.
Only real difficulty was getting the air intake support brackets back on. 
(Grumble grumble, gettin' too old for this sh-tuff.)
YMMV
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> So what's the deal? Is the M103 a good machine (as good as the
> venerable M110), or am I just as well with an OM603.961?

I've heard it is.  Valve stem seals may be an issue. I don't have any
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Re: [MBZ] M103 vs OM603 vs OM617: Help me decide

[Frederick Moir]

Ed.
Valve guides are replaced with the head off. It is theoretically possible to 
pull the guides with out removing the head but most likely the valve seats will 
be worn and would no longer be concentric with the valves and guides. The 
guides are driven in and usually have to be reamed.
Replacing the seals is just tedious not difficult. Remove spark plug, inject 
air pressure via an adapter to keep the valve hard against the seat. If you can 
balance the piston that you are working on at TDC it may help stop the valve 
from falling into the engine should the air pressure fail. (BTDT) remove valve 
gear at the cyl. that you are working on only (rocker etc.) use an external 
valve spring compressor ( hooks under the cam and pushes down on the valve 
spring ) remove keepers (use pencil magnet) gently release compressor and take 
off the spring. Pull out the seal, check for debris around the valve guide, use 
the seal protector, ( clear tube supplied with VSOS kit) and put a smear of 
engine oil around the seal lip and press on. Hand pressure against a deep 
socket with extension works for me. Curse a bit as you wrestle the seal 
protector off
Replace spring, compress and install keepers. Do the other valve in that pair.
Repeat.
As we say in Yinglant, Rotsa Ruck!
All you genii please add you comments, condemnations and insults.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Dieselitis Maximus ( With a little gas on the side)

E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: anybody want to give me a quick walk though of 
changing valve guides and
also the stem seals??  I'm sure mine are about due with 340,000 on them.
Ed
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing valve stem seals.

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Ed et al.
100psi. plus works well, note that in most home air systems there is a lot 
of water, so don't take all day to do one cyl it might just rust up over night.
Locking the crank is probably the best idea. It is sometimes impossible to 
balance the crank/piston at TDC as it likes to quickly go to BDC under pressure!
Happy Wrenching.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
etc.

E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 How much psi. do you use to hold the valve in place?
Do you lock the crank before applying the air pressure?
Thanks again Frederick.
Regards,
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing valve stem seals.

[Frederick Moir]

Robert et al.
Your reasoning is good. The only caveat is that it may be very difficult to
hold the valve up, install the spring and compress same whilst trying to 
install the keepers. If the valve falls to the piston crown by some amount that 
"gap" will require that the spring be further compressed to get the keepers in. 
On some engines this may be as much as a quarter inch or more, less on MBZ.
Fred Moir
Knee Wrenchers Mate and Brain Surgeon.
Diesel for me.

Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Fred and all
I finally reasoned that if the piston on the Ford was at or near TDC, a 
valve could not fall into a cylinder because there just isn't room for that 
to happen.  And they didn't. because there is not room enough.  Valve 
hits piston long before the stem disappears into the guide.  And even if it 
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Re: [MBZ] The evil broken lug bolt on my 300 SDL

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Jim etal.
One, rather brutal method of loosening stuck bolts is to use a large 
welder/spot welder to heat the bolt cherry red and, after it has cooled down 
use a bolt remover, (reverse spiral socket thingy).
At your own risk!
Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] 115 manny 240D 3.0 euro

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Interestink?
Nice car.Car is offered by a guy? in Derbyshire, England. The car has R.A.C and 
A.A. badges on the front and where was the picture taken? Pick-up in Florida?
Methinks something in the stinks in the state of Denmark!
Fred Moir
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R.A.C = Royal Automobile Club
A.A. U.K. equivalent of AAA
My mum was from Chesterfield, Derbyshire U.K.

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[MBZ] OT Jeep Cocktail Stirrer

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Guess what I was doing today?
What Vanes? I don' need no vanes on my water pump!
Help! Green slime ate my water pump!
Neighbors '98 Jeep Cherokee 2.5L 4cyl. Overheats, (say it ain't so!).
Chrystly had this problem on slant sixes in the late sixties, probably laid off 
all the high priced experienced engineers in favor of the (cheaper) latest 
E-school grads.
All of his (owner) research on the web turned up nada and the local radiator 
shop was puzzled too. They had one just like it in for overheat service.Larry 
(Jeep owner) called them and was told that they had just found that it was the 
water pump.
Gimmee my Benz! Nothing else will do!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

[Frederick Moir]

Vista, Hmm? Can't see it myself.
(Sorry)
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so then i could play online poker through linux?   i really can't on os x.

On 3/16/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bill:
>
> My recommendation would be to run Linux for its stability and then access
> the programs you need (Office, Outlook, etc.) via WINE. There is a very nice
> WINE interface available for $49, after a month to try it out, that lets
> most standard Windows software run smoothly and seamlessly. In fact, you can
> most likely do everything you'd want Windows to do from within Linux, using
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> > Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything
> > worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing "XP Repair Pro 2007".
> > I have little doubt that program is the problem.  The continuing problem
> > is
> > that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out how
> > to get Outlook to download and send email.  I check for spyware regularly,
> > though I don't expect that is the problem.
> > It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show stopper.
> > BillR
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> > From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > > Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work on
> > > a lot of Windows boxes.
> > >
> > > And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one of
> > > three causes.
> > >
> > > 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory.
> > >
> > > 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application. For
> > > example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on.
> > >
> > > 3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from a
> > > porn or gambling site.
> > >
> > > Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the
> > > systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP.
> > >
> > > 2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial Vista
> > > installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet.
> > >
> > > Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is even
> > > better than 2000.
> > >
> > > Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware or
> > > are experiencing issues with aftermarket software. Neither of these are
> > > Microsoft's fault.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > Sent: 3/16/07 8:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked
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> > >
> > > Thanks Tom - I have been getting that feeling.  The only real issue I
> > > have
> > > at the moment is that a recently installed system cleaner [XP Repair Pro
> > >
> > > 2007] has caused Outlook to crash every time there is ma

[MBZ] OT Shoe Goo?

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
I need boot repair advice. I was wrestling the snowblower into the shed after 
this last snowfall and managed to stab the toe of my rubber(?) boot with the 
end of a small bolt, 1/4" dia. The bolt pulled out and the hole closed up, so I 
only need to seal the top of the boot. Will the infamous "Shoe Goo" be the 
best? Or are there other, better, solutions. Clumsy Clot wants to know.
TIA
Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] OT Shoe Goo?

[Frederick Moir]

Jim C. & Mitch H.
Ta! Very much! Shoe Goo it is.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I only need to seal the top of the 
boot.  Will the infamous
> "Shoe Goo" be the best?

Absolutely.  That's exactly the kind of thing it's for.  It's
tough, yet flexible.  Sticks to most anything.

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:58:08 +1030 "Hendrik Riessen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What excactly are we talking about? The plastic sheet that goes between
> the  door trim and door or the rubber strip that holds the window in the
> channel.

Actually, we're talking about neither. We're talking about the rubber
gasket that goes all the way around the door and seals it to the body when
the door is shut -- otherwise known as weatherstripping.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT Peaceful demonstrators

[Frederick Moir]

If the value is not too low, couple then with and inductor and a capacitor and 
have a perfumed resonating chant.
Fred Moir
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(Off my meds today)

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Craig, I have worked an aeronautical (periscopic, bubble) sextant to .25
degree, but  .004 is, indeed, a bit fine for B-52 celestial navigation.
Considering all the other variables and inherent errors involved (each one
with its correction applied), even .25 degree was a bit silly.  Even
navigator judgment could be a significant part of a celestial fix
(position).  B-52 navigators used to say, "We measure it with calipers, mark
it with a grease pencil and chop it with an ax."

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] way OT: finding a wife

[Frederick Moir]

Wives!
Met #1 on Silver Beach in Barbados1967. Lasted 10 years, 2 wonderful girls. 
Learned a lot. Caveat:- Don't marry a Schizophrenic and expect a normal married 
life. (Interesting that her family never mentioned it.)
#2 was a blind double date with a friend and his girlfriend. ( He is Austrian 
nat. American, his G/F was Danish, American by marriage (widow), I am a Limey, 
and my wife (read blind date) is American of Quebecuois heritage and we went to 
a dance at the German-American Club. Fancy! an Englishman married to a French 
Canadian descended American!
Any who it was electric, I fell like a ton of bricks during "The Chicken 
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You should visit more often, you are more fun than Bill.

BillR wrote:
> Sorry guys, but I have to laugh...Looking through my hubby's e-mail titles
> since he's out of town, trying to find messages from our far-flung adult
> children, I did a double-take when I saw the following two lines, one on top
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> "Way OT: finding a wife"
> "Think I found one, what should I pay??"
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> At least they've told you. I work with an Indian guy about your age. His
> parents lured him to India on a trip "to go see family" with them which has
> apparently turned into "this is your new wife".
> He's seriously upset, I get daily email updates.
> 
> I met my wife through friends in college frighteningly I knew she was the
> one the moment I met her. I can't explain, I just knew.
> I told her friend the next day I was going to marry her. Everybody thought I
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> "Well, you're 27 and haven't found a girl yet; let us give it a shot."
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[MBZ] Cruise Control?

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
This is an attempt to find out what's going on.
Car:- 87 190DT.
History:- Vehicle has been in at least one accident and received a cheap repair 
by some body shop that didn't care about their reputation. There are a few 
systems that had failed or were damaged in said accident. ie A/C plumbing, ABS 
control valve assy. (although it does still work), the security system box is 
missing, and the Tempomat box was unplugged. Checked inside the cruise control 
box and there are a few traces burned off. Further investigation revealed that 
the box, 002 545 16 32 is not the correct box according to the EPC. It should 
be 023 545 21 32.
Question. Will the 002 545 21 32 or 003 545 09 32 work in this car without 
needing a fire extinguisher? Or must I find the correct(?) one 023 545 21 32? 
Help! Pleeez.
TIA
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Ummm - I see that in cars with Texas tags ---

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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control?

[Frederick Moir]

Mitch, CRS struck again. What parts of the car were totalled?
I'll send you a list, off list and you may send me a quote for what I  need.
Fred Moir
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True, but empirical evidence collected by drivers does not change.
The old epa system over-rated mileage of gassers.  For diesels, it was 
pretty accurate.
the prius is currently over-rated in many ways, not just mileage.

A well tuned diesel whether 40 years old, or 25 or less will get better 
mileage than gassers, and when driven by some drivers can exceed the epa 
estimates.


At 09:18 AM 4/6/2007, you wrote:
>But the 1992 vs. today comparisons on fuel economy may not be comparable
>since EPA changed their formula for calculating the mileage.
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> > Too bad they didn't go back further and include Diesels.  The rabbits and
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Re: [MBZ] H2O Pump Degradation

[Frederick Moir]

Bob.
What kind of car?
I know jeeps can lose the vanes off the impeller and exhibit those symptoms.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it possible for an H2O pump's  
pumping capacity to degrade (maybe by a worn impeller) such that the car runs 
hot at idle but runs normal operating temp when rpm is increased? 

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If you eat a big bean burrito (here in Houston there are taco trucks 
everywhere, you can get big ones, small ones, some tacos to go with), 
then sit on a plastic trash bag about 30 min later, I think that will 
fix you right up as far as the pillow goes.  You can also adjust the 
size according to your preferences by additional, um, inputs.

--R

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> lumbar pillow made for the car.
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[MBZ] OT Horses? It's Friday

[Frederick Moir]

My youngest girl has an Hanoverian Warmblood and wants this one too!
Fred Moir
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[MBZ] French Diesel

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Curt et al.
My aunt had a 504 SW (gas) that she adored, and I thought that it was ok with 
its long-legged suspension and strange shift pattern. I subsequently looked at 
a new 505 SW diesel and was not too impressed. Old push-rod style engine about 
100 hp and not too fast, though economical, 30mpg plus, as I remember. Best 
thing about it was the Bosch injection. The 604,5,6 were aimed at the upper 
segment of the market, so they were fancier than most other Peugeot cars.  If 
it is rust free and the engine trans are good, they can be economical fun to 
drive, a la 2.2 190D. Some of the gas engines from that era had soft cams and 
seized the oil pump relief valves and other expensive bits.
YMMV
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Larry T wrote:=20

=20

"Ha!  I wonder where he dreamed up that $7000 value??"=20

=20

Well, he did say that the antenna goes up and down.  Perhaps that is
worth a few thousand dollars.  (If the 95K miles is correct this would
be good car, but I can't see spending more than $1200-$1500 on this
car.) =20

=20

I bought a 1981 240D in beautiful condition in 2003 for $1100. It was an
auto. It only had 130,000 miles.   Man, those cars are dogs.  My shadow
once caught up to me.=20

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[MBZ] Re M103

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
I had an M102 85 that had similar symptoms to you 103. Cured it by using M1 
20w50 for the lifter rattle and a new (Bosch) Mustang V8 O2 sensor  (plus 
adapter from J/Y).
Car ran very well with 180k miles and would pass MA emissions for 2006!
You need to find out what is causing the rich running or it will wear out you 
engine much too soon. Black gritty oily plugs and no smoke off idle is probably 
rich mixture.
IMHO.
Fred Moir
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Thanks for you help Peter.  My thought was, maybe a bad O2 at first, but
didn't think that could four the plugs so fast.  I mean, they were place
after only a few miles of use.  The were filthy when I changed them, and I
pulled the new ones ater about 5 miles just to have a look, and they were
dark!  As for mileage and oil use exactly, I can't tell as I've only drive
the car about 200 miles since buying it.  I did the old Italian tune up
thing and drove it hard tonight and will check the plugs again tomorrow.

Thanks for the tip with the 02 sensor.  My friend is an electricial and has
a Fluke mulit meter.  I'll see if he can get any reading as you suggested.
I also plan to have a friend over in the next week or so to help me with a
compression test.

Thanks again Peter and I may have more questions for you in the coming week
or so.

Take care,
Ed
300E

On 27/04/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Some M103's burn oil -- about a quart in 1000 miles (a litre in 2000 km
> or so), more than usualy.  Never changes, but it's there.
>
> Your plugs should be tan to brownish gray -- if they are black, the
> mixture is out of adjustment.  What sort of fuel consumption are you
> getting?  Decent or pretty low?  You may have a fuel problem.
>
> Basic mixture is fairly easy to set on these cars as they are
> electronically controlled and a multimeter with a duty cycle setting
> will allow you to use the oxygen sensor as a measuring device --
> typically they are set for 50% duty cycle.
>
> If you do not have electronic feedback control, you will need a CO
> meter to set the mixture.
>
> Quite possibly someone had the mixture set, then fixed a vacuum leak,
> resulting in an over-rich condtion.
>
> You should be able to use "normal" Mobil 1 or similar synthetics, which
> i highly recommend, probably 10W30 in winter and 15W50 in the summer.
> You should never need 20W50 oil.
>
> Peter
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[MBZ] 190DT Probs.

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Alles.
The 190DT has been in at least one accident, maybe more, and I've just 
discovered that the rear windscreen was replaced. The insulated flat metal 
electrical connectors on the glass were removed from the old (broken?) window 
and are just hanging there with the sharp residue of glass particles still 
attached. The replacement window has a flat metal connector on the pass. side 
but none on the dr. side. Q. Can the old electrical connectors be somehow 
fastened to the strip at the edge of the glass? If so, how?
Or am I scrod?
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190D 84
190DT 87
300TD 85


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My neighbors accross the lane have one of that approximate vintage. I know only 
a couple of things about it. They
had the turbo replaced under warranty. It does not produce much heat in winter. 
They had an aftermarket heated seat
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[MBZ] 190D 2,5 5 speed

[Frederick Moir]

Parts car, near Boston MA. I looked at it, could be daily driver but not pretty.
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/324190453.html
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It must have been a 280SL.  I'd better get my feelers recalibrated =-)!

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Ahh, that's why.  You're an oldtimer compared to me:)  Sheesh, now that 
I think
about it...I'm nearing 20.  My first license was September of '88. 

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'83 300SD (245 kmi) For Sale
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine
'85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine


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> Yes - got the current one in 2001. 
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> On 5/9/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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[MBZ] Re 190DT Probs.

[Frederick Moir]

After a week of resounding silence, I'd guess I'm scrod.
Fred Moir
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Kaleb,
Would you happen to have a used right rear door vacuum diaphragm for my R-R 
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Just bid to win.  You can take the key to a locksmith and have
duplicates made.  Wouldnt be able to order one from the dealer without
proof of ownership of the car though.

Roger Conlon wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Re 190DT Probs.

[Frederick Moir]

Yup! Past imperfect.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Deiselitis maximus

"Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fred,
Aren't all who live on the North Shore scrod?


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI

Subject: [MBZ] Re 190DT Probs.

After a week of resounding silence, I'd guess I'm scrod.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Kaleb, are you thinking of the 2.6L?  The M104 has a LOT more power 
than the M103, even the 2.8L, I've driven one.  Road rocket, pretty 
much.

Peter

[MBZ] ChowdahQ

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Dwight et al.
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If I am getting no power what does that signify and what needs fixing??


On 5/13/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > What's left to fiddle with?  I replaced the foam hose under the dash a
> > couple years ago so that should still be OK.  Are there any other
> > components that might cause this malfunction?  Is there a simple
> > diagnostic for quasi retards??
>
> You have the little clear AUTO switch?  Those bypass the foam
> hose business when set on MAX or MIN.
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> Check that you are getting power to the monovalve when the heat
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[MBZ] OT Re ChowdahQ

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Greetings and Salutations.
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Fred Moir
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--- andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If I am getting no power what does that signify and
> what needs fixing??


Andrew,

I would highly suggest that you consider R&R of the
pushbutton assembly and resolder the joints on the
boards.  While this isn't the typical fix for
monovalve problems, you're probably due for it anyway.

I have pictures of the procedure if you want them...

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Re: [MBZ] Water Pump?

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Stuart, et al
By my experience you have a water flow problem.
1. Failed or part open thermostat.
2. Partially plugged radiator.
3. Water pump failure.

MB water pumps are robust, so if it is not leaking, a quick r&r to check the 
vanes will show any failures. The rest, you should check for crud between ac 
condenser and radiator, fan function etc.
HTH
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The oil leaks down out of the servos and maybe some from the torque 
converter (not usually on a Benz, though).  Level will read low running 
in park after engaging R and D until it warms up.  It will read over 
the full mark with the engine off.

Peter

[MBZ] 87 300TD

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Ad reads:-
1987 Mercedes 300TD. Diesel, metallic brown. vy gd shape. 220k mi. rust free 
southern car. well maint. recent brakes & tires. $3000. (Webster) 508 943 0623, 
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Webster is in Western Mass. and this may or may not be a TD, may be a DT?
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I would like to order  a Multimeter with  Duty cycle and Frequency 
functions  .What make /model is yours ?
Seems  only a  few makes have them with both the functions.
Thanks
mak

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> Hi Peter,
>> Picked up my multimeter that reads duty cycle today.  Give it a quick try
> but don't really know what I'm doing, so have a few questions.


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Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD

[Frederick Moir]

Hey, Dwight.
I'm not so parochial as to think Western Massachusetts starts at 128.
495 maybe.
Used to live in Portsmouth on Viking Drive with a view of the Old Stone Bridge 
(!) on the Sakonnet.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

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> Thanks Craig.  I'm sure Mak will pck this up from the list.  I am thinking
> San Diego and other parts of Southern California.
> BillR
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>> The best thing to do is to ask the list:  List folks - Mak has a
>> Lancia Flavia coupe, a 220S/1962, 230/1966, 280SE/1970 and a 300SE
>> 1990. He is looking for mostly small interior parts [I think - Mak,
>> chime in here]. Where are the best places to search?
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> Silver Star Auto Recycling
> 11315 Dismantle Ct
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[MBZ] 300TDt Purchase

[Frederick Moir]

John.
I'm green with envy.
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Yes, as for some folks actually "being good", when you live by some sort of
code of behavior - Amish, Buddhist, whatever, you usually wind up
benefitting society. Unless your code is fundamentalist Islam, or
Gangsta-Stop-Snitchin, or other systems that are fatally flawed.

As Chris Elliot said on an episode of King of Queens "I think we can all
agree that the Amish are pretty great."

I used to deliver tractor trailer parts in southern PA. When I'd go up to
the "Lankister" area, it sucked getting caught behind so many carts.

Around here, on the frontage road to I-90, I sometimes see a guy standing on
an open cart being pulled by two horses - the cart is dragging one large
tractor tire. Didn't know if he was exercising the horses, or smoothing out
the dirt road?

We see an Amish dad and two boys at the farmer's market here in town. The
thing that freaks me out is the hands on those little boys! They're like
little shrunken down man hands! Freakish. So oversized and proportioned like
an adult's. And rough and dirty looking - like they'd still look dirty even
when washed.

And are the Amish loosening their standards on not using technology? I see
them more and more riding around in cars.

I figure what the heck, there's a lot of OT on the list lately, and Rich
seems to be the only one reading this.

Brian

[MBZ] OT Bahstan

[Frederick Moir]

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The land of The Bean and The Cod
Where the Forbes talk to the Cabots
And the Cabots talk only to God

Probably misquoted.
Fred Moir
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What colour is the car? Up here in Ontario we've got a Mennonite
settlement in the town of St. Jacob's, near Waterloo (RIM's HQ).
You'll frequently see the horsecarts on the roadside, but sometimes
you'll also see the Mennonites in cars, but only black ones. Rumour
has it there are old world and new world Mennonites. The former shun
all modern conveniences, but the latter are allowed to drive cars, as
long as they're black.

Tim
1982 300TD
1991 300TE 4Matic

>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:33:17 -0400
>From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs
>
>The ones in cars are Menonites, an offshoot of the Amish.  The Amish will
>ride in cars but they will not operate them.  We used to haul veal calves
>for Amish farmers in PA to the slaughterhouse in NJ and they were insistent
>upon riding along and seeing every calf get slaughtered before being paid in
>cash for them.  He would then pay us in cash and we would take him back
>home.  Never was a talker..Would just sit there silently and ride.
>
>Mike

[MBZ] 190D 2.2 1984

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
When bought this car it had a giant oil leak from the front timing cover, 
broken in 3 places from (I guess) a broken chain, also pan had chip out of it. 
Ran well and did not smoke. Found that the engine had been replaced with one 
from an '85 with manual trans.
This late '84 2.2 190D  has had the head redone, (valves, guides, 0.007" planed 
off etc.) has no oil pressure to the camshaft. Lifters rattle and are all 
bereft of tension, even the new one that came rock hard from Rusty. With cam 
cover off, engine running there is no squirt from the cam towers on to the cam 
itself. Initially I had the wrong head (J/Y replacement early '84, who knew?) 
Didn't run the wrong head. Rusty bailed me out with his extensive knowledge of 
MB's (All Hail Rusty!) and he sent me the correct gasket.  When running with 
the correct head, runs well and starts instantly and has excellent oil 
pressure. OK, Oh most wonderful and knowlegeable list Magi, what have I f**ked 
up?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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1987 190DT Rusty Rocket
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It's up to almost $1,300.  I was thinking if I could get it for $500
it might have be worth sorting out all the problems, but it was past
that price days ago.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

"Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> all i can say is that its going to need alot of work, including a
> whole new paint job.
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
>> Check out this listing (someone else posted it here last week also):
>> 
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140119061737
>> 
>> Scroll down to the photos, there is a picture of the center console
>> showing a yellow rocker switch.  Is that something that is factory?
>> Looks a bit out-of-place.
>> 
>> Also I note that the center pushbutton on the ACC is missing.
>> 
>> Also it looks like something had been mounted to the passenger side of
>> the transmission hump -- old-style car phone maybe?
>> 
>> I think the only sane approach to bidding on this is to assume that
>> the motor is trashed.  So what's the rest of the car worth?

[MBZ] 190E Coolant

[Frederick Moir]

Thermostat? Air Bubble?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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190DT
300TD
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> Looks like a load of fun ay Kaleb?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

[Frederick Moir]

John.
We are so sorry for your loss.
Fred and Joanne Moir.

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Please bear in mind that folks who drive larger vehicles have some difficulty 
in safely passing you in traffic. I
have had a Suburban and now a couple of F150's. I don't want to clip some poor 
cyclist with my mirror while trying
to get around him and not hit the car/truck in the lane next to me. After 
holding up traffic behind me to cleanly
get around the cyclist, it really irks me to have him pass me at the next light 
and have to do it all over again in
the next block or two. I have tried pulling close to the curb before stopping 
to send the message but that seems to
enrage cyclists and I have had them bang on my vehicle.

I understand folks who wish to ride as they want the exersize or don't have a 
car. I have friends who do it but I
don't plan to join them and I really think that city traffic is a lousy place 
to ride. I think a cyclist really
needs to be mindful of how much bigger and heavier a truck is. I can't stop on 
a dime and any error on their part
or my part is gonna hurt. Do do yourself a favour and stay as far away from 
trucks as you can. Don't push the rules
of the road or your luck as you aren't going to win. Please be safe out there. 
I'm gonna lose sleep if I ever run
one of you over.

I gave up my Honda Goldwing for similar reasons. I was able to keep up with 
traffic obviously, but the fools in the
trucks were willing to ride 2 feet from my back fender. I try to give 
motorcycles a whole lot of room as I remember
how I felt. However, the common thing is that if I leave a little too much 
room, some other fool pulls into the
space between me and the bike so it doesn't always do much good to be nice.

Randy (climbing gingerly down from his soapbox)

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See, this is really amazing to me: It is literally expected that a bicyclist
will stop way back from a red light - sometimes a half a mile or more - and
wait beside the car that they are next to? And this gets confusing when you
consider which car to choose to wait beside. I mean it's a law, right, so
let's follow it exactly.

If traffic is already stopped and backed up at a light, you are required to
pull up along side the rear-most car and wait there?

And if you are cruising along side traffic and it slows and stops in a line
at a light, you are to  find a car that is about to roll to its stop, and
pick it as your car to wait beside?

If it sounds crazy, I think it is!

I don't consider advancing past stopped traffic at a red light "passing"
(though I know it is legally considered so). I simply consider it advancing
along in my legitimate and legal bike area (th

[MBZ] PiNG?

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[MBZ] Hirschman Ant.

[Frederick Moir]

14 tabs on the antennae that I have. The cover has the tabs facing out and they 
latch under the outer edge of the base. A small screwdriver (or ?) depresses 
each tab in turn and this will release the cover. HTH (Clear as mud?)
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Dieselitis Maximus

   
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Testes, Testes
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] PiNG?

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
British social convention:- if you are PiNGed, you have been declared 
(socially) Persona Non Grata. Double entendre,  'ping'  a computer to see if it 
will talk to you
Fred  Moir (the Strange)
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At 8:26 PM -0500 6/1/07, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
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You fool no-one.  :D

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Re: [MBZ] Intake removal?

[Frederick Moir]

Curt.
I have a spare 190D 2.2 intake gasket (new) from my last foray into engine 
repair. yours if you want it.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300D

Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:The intake I'm a bit nervous about. 
Presumably theres a gasket from the intake manifold or whatever its called, to 
the head. Should that be replaced? Replace only if its torn?

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I have a pitifilly meager supply of tools yet my wife has the predictable
amount of shoes. However, my theory may still hold true, as my tool supply
is made up for in what, to my surprise, has slowly become an impressive
supply of shoes for myself (since meeting her).

My thoughts nowadays go: Man, I need this shoe for this, and that shoe for
that, I can't wear that shoe for that...

Brian
Looking for his testicles

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Re: [MBZ] Intake removal?

[Frederick Moir]

Curt.
I'm salivating already; timing?
Also, anything else that you need that I might have?
Fred

Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Wanna come out and watch the installation? I'd fire the barbeque for it...
Dwight? John? Could be a party.

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$2231 tranny rebuild/replace w/rebuilt coulda been $3k + at Stealer.
'Sure drove good coming home.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Florida has a mileage exemption for 10 year old cars.
An almost relative is a small used car dealer down there and, as he has found 
Jesus, a reasonably honest one. Not all cats are grey after midnight!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT 87
300TD 85

Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I wouldn't touch it - car dealer from florida?  that's two strikes.


 
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Jim Cathey wrote:
>> How long can a rusty, squeaky ball joint last, and what happens in the 
>> end?
> 
> A year or two, maybe.  Then the wheel folds under the car.
> Hopefully you aren't near any oncoming traffic, or ravines.
> 
> Happened to me, turning around in a barnyard instead of the night
> before at 75 MPH on the freeway.  Lucky.
> 
> Happened to the neighbors last year.  Skidded to a stop on the
> freeway in a shower of sparks.  Nobody hurt.  Lucky.
> 
> Do you feel lucky, punk?  :-)

Ball joint failure USUALLY occur a slow speeds and tight turns (not sure 
why) but they CAN occur at speed (9 of the ten reports I have - 
including my own 300TD - are at slow speeds when maneuvering). I would 
NOT trust a damaged ball joint more than a few months, but that's 
ENTIRELY a matter of how worn the joint is. There is NO criteria for how 
long it will last once you lub it. One that had only recently started to 
deteriorate MIGHT last for years and one that was worn to 98+% of the 
failure point might let go as you drove out of the driveway the first 
time. You REALLY don't want one to fail on you - especially not at speed!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook

[Frederick Moir]

Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 " the metal parts on it are made of solid metal material. " 

... and I assume the glass is made of glass and the tires are made of
rubber too.

Allan
There is a repair material, sort of super Bondo, called "All Metal"
There is Truth and there is truth.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT "Bondo Epeciale"
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Actually, tires are not - they are filled with air...

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
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Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 " the metal parts on it are made of solid metal material. " 

... and I assume the glass is made of glass and the tires are made of
rubber too.

Allan
There is a repair material, sort of super Bondo, called "All Metal"
There is Truth and there is truth.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] 190dt Owners

[Frederick Moir]

Rick, et al.
Sent 4 pics offlist. If they don't appear let me know.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD

Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My car has zero, zip, nada, nothing 
holding the fuel injector lines in place except the nuts which hold them to the 
injectors and injector delivery valves. I gotta order ALL that crap, then 
figure out where it all goes... Big Fun. If anyone could take a few pictures of 
their injection setup and email them to me I would be eternally grateful.

Thanks In Advance,

Rick Knoble 
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'87 190 DT


   
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One time I returned from a trip and emptied the nylon drawstring laundry bag
after removing it from my suitcase.
A TSA card fell out with the dirty underwear.  I kept that card for a
while.  Whenever I had a bad day with my job, I just had to think about the
TSA agent that inspects dirty underwear.

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'80 300TD

Re: [MBZ] need overvoltage relay

[Frederick Moir]

201 540 08 45 work for you?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD

"Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I need an overvoltage relay for 
my 87 300TD.  Its the 201 part number 
that will also work on the 190 I suppose.  Think it has 5 prongs.  Only 
ones I have are the newer style with more prongs.  Anybody got one?


   
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Have you tried resoldering your bad one?

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker of the month

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
And he probably believes all "the shrub" tells him!
Some idiot might bite. Nicht so?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT 87
300TD 85

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Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker of the month

[Frederick Moir]

Mitch, et al.
I'd laugh, IF it were funny.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Dieselitis Maximus

Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Frederick Moir wrote:
> 
> Hi, All.
> And he probably believes all "the shrub" tells him!

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[MBZ] Moggish Spotted

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Spotted by my youngest daughter. This Co. delivers oil to my ex.
http://www.alliedfuel.com/
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
"I love the smell of diesel in the mornings."
(apologies to Robert Duval.)

   
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Re: [MBZ] New car New questions

[Frederick Moir]

Hey, Dipsticks.
My '87 190DT dipstick reads  126 270 00 83  and it sure hurt when tattooed!
Dipstick tube # is :-201 270 04 84
EPC
84 190D dipstick:- 126 270 00 83 repl. by
`   140 270 03 83 repl. by
 140 270 06 83

Dipstick tube:-  201 270 02 84 repl. by
  201 270 04 84
Don't worry, be happy.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
85 300TD
87 190DT 

R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Find someone with a comparable car and 
compare the dipsticks to see if the length is too short.

Randy
The transmission dipstick: It says 126 on the top of it (followed by
other numbers of course) The cap is red in color. Was a mystery before
I realized it probably is the wrong dipstick - the level read way low,
yet the tranny acted just right. The seller tried to 

 
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[MBZ] OT Odd lot

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Cleaned up the cellar (somewhat) today and found a few small things that may be 
of interest to some listers with Saab or VW or ? To whit:-
2 sets of points from my VW days Bosch# 1 237 013 044-740. These were for late 
model air cooled VW (among others). One in blister-pac one not, unused plus an 
after market rotor.
A Saab tool for releasing the shift cable from early 70's 99 transmissions and 
the rubber plug with ring handle to fit the cis system between the plate and 
distributor to seal up the access hole for mixture adjust.
Clear as mud, right? Free for the asking and I'll send snail mail free too.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD
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[MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, All.
Wife's 99 Toy is loosing it's cool. Still works but not as cool as it was.
I have RTFM and have all necessary stuff and tools. The Question is this:- if 
some portion of the gas has leaked out, and presumably some of the oil, how do 
you estimate the quantity of oil remaining? Do I use one of those charge cans 
with oil, or will that over oil things?
Hot and sweaty dope wants to know. (correction NEEDS to know!  Wifely comment)
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD
99 Toyota Crow roller VE,  the cheap one. 

   
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Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun

[Frederick Moir]

Jim, et al.
I was just kicking going down, I'll have to trust to dumb luck and put in oil 
too.
Thanks.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD
Toy VE

Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Ah, that is the part that's art, innit?  The Yorks had an advantage there in 
that they have a crankcase and a dipstick.I have no practical advice.  I 
believe I lost my 190D's compressor due to a lack of oil, however.
-- Jim


 
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Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Kweshun

[Frederick Moir]

OK Don, et al.
A "cool" wife is a treasure. As I'm sure she will tell you!
Klatta on!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
German oil burners.

OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying alternating cans of plain with 
cans with oil - haven't been
doing it long enough for any results yet, other than that I'm still
"cool". (So is my wife!).


   
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Re: [MBZ] Pre-Benz car for sale

[Frederick Moir]

Liquid Gold or Platinum.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Dizzle Knut

Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
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What kind of oil would I use in this car?

--R



   
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[MBZ] A/C Oel Kweshun

[Frederick Moir]

Thanks to Jim C., Jim F.and Alex C. I'm gonna go for the oil and gas mixed 
charge.
Does this make it a two-stroke?
Report to follow soon.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD
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[MBZ] 190D subframe mounts

[Frederick Moir]

Curt.
The diff. on a 201-190D, DT etc bolts directly to the subframe, not rubber 
mounted.
Of course I'm known for my flights of fancy, so check it out.
YMMV
Fred Moir
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300TD


   
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[MBZ] Semi O.T. A/C Report

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Al.
Re SWMBO's Toy Corolla 1999. Purchased an Interdynamics R143a recharge setup
at Wally World, $27.47. Simple instructions and worked as advertised. Any idiot 
can do it, even me (after suitable instruction). IIoz. of freezy kids stuff, 
2oz. oil, some kind of leak suppressant and "Maxi Cool" enhancement (snake 
oil?). Anyhow the gauge supplied read 35-40 psi at max cool a/c on, in the blue 
zone, started out in the green zone ~ 20 psi.
Mr. Bell! Mr. Bell! it works!
Diesel content, now to reassemble the '84 190D a/c system. (groan)
Delete key is in the usual place.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD
Toy Crowroller

   
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[MBZ] Bio D

[Frederick Moir]

Greeting Earthlings.
Mickey D's goes green in U.K.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6259328.stm
Should have been on Bio. D list I suppose.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD

   
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Re: [MBZ] Antique Mercedes Project Opportunity

[Frederick Moir]

Isn't a 300 small "d" a petrol injection car? Not diesel?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
87 190DT
85 300TD

TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No affiliation. Was posted to a 
motorcycle list I belong to and is
being sold by a friend of a listmember. What do you think? Accurate
restoration or streetrod? :)

   
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[MBZ] Autozone, quelle suprise!

[Frederick Moir]

Hi, Alles.
25 or more years ago the NAPA guy in Salem MA was the guy to go to for any 
quality part, still is!
The NAPA gal in Gloucester is another memory phenom. Have never had a wrong or 
bad part from either of them. Before Rusty, anything needed was from NAPA, 
tried other stores, not so good to bloody awful.
Brittons in Beverly came close and they did the machine work on my 601 and 602 
heads flawlessly. If you have a poor experience at NAPA it must be an 
aberration.
My $0.02
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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[MBZ] 201 IP Leaks

[Frederick Moir]

The kid that bought my olde 190D '84 601 eng. 220k+ miles, has found a leak 
that seems to emanate from the IP. The "side plate" was missing a screw and the 
other 3 were hand tight only. The gasket was some kind of petrified rubber, so 
some careful application of red RTV cured that leak, however the bottom plate 
appears to leak also. Question, can the bottom plate be removed "in situ" or 
must the IP be removed first? It seems that if the fuel lift pump, the fuel 
thermostat and possibly the AC Comp. were removed it may be do-able, nicht whar?
This car was run on M1 15w40 after the head rebuild, maybe it removed the crud 
that was "sealing" the IP?
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

   
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[MBZ] Re 201 IP Leaks

[Frederick Moir]

Dr Marshall et al.
I would have loved to get the correct gasket, only available from Bosch etc., 
however said kid had to go to his grandmothers place a hundred or so miles away 
and reducing the leak with red  RTV was better than running out of oil in 
transit. Time will tell.
Thanks for the info.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
190DT
300TD

 
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