Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Seems the public and the accountants don't get it. On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Well, you always get what you pay for, after all! > > Same is true for buying non-working watches on eBay -- once in a while it's > just Grandpa's watch that he stopped wearing and it just needs cleaning, but > usually there was a reason it went into the drawer in mintish condition and > wasn't worn... > > Outsourcing is a very fast, efficient way to kill a business, along with > assorted passengers, personnel, and bystanders. > > Peter -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Well, you always get what you pay for, after all! Same is true for buying non-working watches on eBay -- once in a while it's just Grandpa's watch that he stopped wearing and it just needs cleaning, but usually there was a reason it went into the drawer in mintish condition and wasn't worn... Outsourcing is a very fast, efficient way to kill a business, along with assorted passengers, personnel, and bystanders. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
AIRCRAFT engineers yesterday warned that "danger signs" were now emerging from Qantas's decision to outsource maintenance, with a spate of safety incidents since it sent the work overseas. Australian Licenced Aircraft Engineers Association secretary Steve Purvinas said since Qantas sent engineering and safety checks to countries such as Singapore, the national carrier's once near-perfect safety record had suffered. And he said the German-based Lufthansa engineers who serviced the A380 Airbus involved in yesterday's incident did not even have the same aircraft in their own fleet.snip http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/travel/news/qantas-flight-32-lands-safely-at-changi-airport-in-singapore/story-fn3015fd-1225947850097 "[Qantas is] using various maintenance suppliers in Asia and Europe today - and they've been chosen in preference to the Australian facilities which were responsible for Qantas's excellent safety record over many years." All Qantas safety and engineering work was once done in Australia but in recent years the airline has begun to get more and more of its maintenance work done overseas. Such work was at first carried out only in Singapore. In late 2007, Qantas planned a new maintenance deal with Malaysian Airlines to do work in Malaysia. But that deal was rapidly cancelled after one aircraft was serviced and came back with problems. The Malaysian deal itself came just months after Qantas's own auditors raised serious concerns about the airline's Singapore contractor, Singapore Airlines Engineering Company. Their report cited problems such as "screws left scattered on wings", "cables not being replaced", and "substandard floor-panel repairs". While there has been no evidence to directly link the overseas work with the recent string of safety scares, there is no doubt growth in overseas maintenance has coincided with a flurry of incidents. These include a Qantas Boeing 747 flying from Hong Kong to Melbourne in 2008 forced to make an emergency landing in Manila after an oxygen tank exploded. Later that same year, an Airbus A330-300 travelling from Singapore to Perth suffering a rapid loss of altitude, causing serious injuries. And in September this year flames shot out from the undercarriage of a Qantas A380 when two tyres burst as it landed at Sydney Airport. That came days after a Singapore-bound Qantas 747 was forced to return to Sydney Airport with engine troublesnip Gerry --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Nope. they had a turboprop crash in 1952, but that is the last major incident. Engine compressor failed, engine caught fire, and the wing burned off before the fire could be extinguished. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Correct. Fay LWB250 wrote: I may be wrong, but I believe that Qantas is the only major flag carrier that has never had a major crash. Maybe it's time? Dan (I hope not) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
I recall reading that stat too. I don't think they've ever had any loss of life due to an accident. I'm sure they've clipped a few wingtips on various things on the ground over the years. Would seem next to impossible not to, with a near 90 year history. Ed 300E On 6 November 2010 16:16, LWB250 wrote: > I may be wrong, but I believe that Qantas is the only major flag carrier > that has never had a major crash. > > Maybe it's time? > > Dan (I hope not) > > > --- On Sat, 11/6/10, OK Don wrote: > > > From: OK Don > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 2:42 PM > > *FYI - * > > > > (Reuters) - Australia's Qantas Airways hopes to have its > > grounded fleet of > > six Airbus A380s flying again "within days" following > > urgent checks after an > > engine failure, chief executive Alan Joyce said on > > Saturday. > > > > Joyce said he was optimistic that the world's largest > > passenger plane would > > pass the tests, as two safety incidents on consecutive days > > overshadowed > > lavish celebrations to mark the airline's 90th anniversary > > this month. > > > > The airline grounded its six A380s after an engine failure > > on one of the > > aircraft on Thursday during a flight to Australia, which > > forced it to make > > an emergency landing in Singapore. > > > > It marked the biggest incident to date for the world's > > largest passenger > > plane, which has been in service since 2007. The incident > > forced other > > airlines to recheck their own A380s. > > > > "We are hopeful that within days we will have our A380 > > fleet flying again," > > Joyce said at an event in Sydney to mark the anniversary > > this month of the > > founding of Qantas in 1920. > > > > In a second incident on Friday, a Boeing 747 en route to > > Australia was also > > forced to turn back to Singapore. Joyce said an engine on > > that plane > > produced "smoke and sparks" but called it a "contained > > engine failure" and > > said there were no plans to ground the airline's 747 > > fleet. > > > > "We are not concerned about our 747 fleet," he said. > > > > However, the incidents have cast a shadow over Qantas' > > anniversary > > celebrations, which on Saturday included a visit by > > Hollywood actor John > > Travolta, who is a pilot and an aviation enthusiast. > > > > Travolta piloted his own vintage 707 in old Qantas livery > > for the cameras > > before voicing his personal support for the airline. > > > > "The Qantas brand around the world is very strong," > > Travolta said. > > > > A Qantas spokeswoman told Reuters that although both > > Thursday and Friday's > > incidents involved Rolls-Royce engines they were of > > different types and the > > incidents were distinct. > > > > "They are different aircraft and they are different > > engines. They are very > > different incidents," she said. > > > > Shares in Rolls-Royce, Airbus parent EADS and Qantas all > > lost ground on > > Friday following Thursday's incident. > > > > > http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A435P20101106?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=76 > > -- > > OK Don > > 2001 ML320 > > 1992 300D 2.5T > > 1990 300D 2.5T > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
I may be wrong, but I believe that Qantas is the only major flag carrier that has never had a major crash. Maybe it's time? Dan (I hope not) --- On Sat, 11/6/10, OK Don wrote: > From: OK Don > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 2:42 PM > *FYI - * > > (Reuters) - Australia's Qantas Airways hopes to have its > grounded fleet of > six Airbus A380s flying again "within days" following > urgent checks after an > engine failure, chief executive Alan Joyce said on > Saturday. > > Joyce said he was optimistic that the world's largest > passenger plane would > pass the tests, as two safety incidents on consecutive days > overshadowed > lavish celebrations to mark the airline's 90th anniversary > this month. > > The airline grounded its six A380s after an engine failure > on one of the > aircraft on Thursday during a flight to Australia, which > forced it to make > an emergency landing in Singapore. > > It marked the biggest incident to date for the world's > largest passenger > plane, which has been in service since 2007. The incident > forced other > airlines to recheck their own A380s. > > "We are hopeful that within days we will have our A380 > fleet flying again," > Joyce said at an event in Sydney to mark the anniversary > this month of the > founding of Qantas in 1920. > > In a second incident on Friday, a Boeing 747 en route to > Australia was also > forced to turn back to Singapore. Joyce said an engine on > that plane > produced "smoke and sparks" but called it a "contained > engine failure" and > said there were no plans to ground the airline's 747 > fleet. > > "We are not concerned about our 747 fleet," he said. > > However, the incidents have cast a shadow over Qantas' > anniversary > celebrations, which on Saturday included a visit by > Hollywood actor John > Travolta, who is a pilot and an aviation enthusiast. > > Travolta piloted his own vintage 707 in old Qantas livery > for the cameras > before voicing his personal support for the airline. > > "The Qantas brand around the world is very strong," > Travolta said. > > A Qantas spokeswoman told Reuters that although both > Thursday and Friday's > incidents involved Rolls-Royce engines they were of > different types and the > incidents were distinct. > > "They are different aircraft and they are different > engines. They are very > different incidents," she said. > > Shares in Rolls-Royce, Airbus parent EADS and Qantas all > lost ground on > Friday following Thursday's incident. > > http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A435P20101106?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=76 > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 1992 300D 2.5T > 1990 300D 2.5T > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
19-year-old grandson flew to France and back last Aug on coupla 380's. Yes, at 19, he is impressionable, but he WAS VERY impressed. BTW, I've told him several times since he was 14 or so, "By the time I was your age, I had been all the way to Raleigh, on a bus." (50 mi.) Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 *FYI - * (Reuters) - Australia's Qantas Airways hopes to have its grounded fleet of six Airbus A380s flying again "within days" following urgent checks after an engine failure, chief executive Alan Joyce said on Saturday. Joyce said he was optimistic that the world's largest passenger plane would pass the tests, as two safety incidents on consecutive days overshadowed lavish celebrations to mark the airline's 90th anniversary this month. The airline grounded its six A380s after an engine failure on one of the aircraft on Thursday during a flight to Australia, which forced it to make an emergency landing in Singapore. It marked the biggest incident to date for the world's largest passenger plane, which has been in service since 2007. The incident forced other airlines to recheck their own A380s. "We are hopeful that within days we will have our A380 fleet flying again," Joyce said at an event in Sydney to mark the anniversary this month of the founding of Qantas in 1920. In a second incident on Friday, a Boeing 747 en route to Australia was also forced to turn back to Singapore. Joyce said an engine on that plane produced "smoke and sparks" but called it a "contained engine failure" and said there were no plans to ground the airline's 747 fleet. "We are not concerned about our 747 fleet," he said. However, the incidents have cast a shadow over Qantas' anniversary celebrations, which on Saturday included a visit by Hollywood actor John Travolta, who is a pilot and an aviation enthusiast. Travolta piloted his own vintage 707 in old Qantas livery for the cameras before voicing his personal support for the airline. "The Qantas brand around the world is very strong," Travolta said. A Qantas spokeswoman told Reuters that although both Thursday and Friday's incidents involved Rolls-Royce engines they were of different types and the incidents were distinct. "They are different aircraft and they are different engines. They are very different incidents," she said. Shares in Rolls-Royce, Airbus parent EADS and Qantas all lost ground on Friday following Thursday's incident. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A435P20101106?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=76 -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
*FYI - * (Reuters) - Australia's Qantas Airways hopes to have its grounded fleet of six Airbus A380s flying again "within days" following urgent checks after an engine failure, chief executive Alan Joyce said on Saturday. Joyce said he was optimistic that the world's largest passenger plane would pass the tests, as two safety incidents on consecutive days overshadowed lavish celebrations to mark the airline's 90th anniversary this month. The airline grounded its six A380s after an engine failure on one of the aircraft on Thursday during a flight to Australia, which forced it to make an emergency landing in Singapore. It marked the biggest incident to date for the world's largest passenger plane, which has been in service since 2007. The incident forced other airlines to recheck their own A380s. "We are hopeful that within days we will have our A380 fleet flying again," Joyce said at an event in Sydney to mark the anniversary this month of the founding of Qantas in 1920. In a second incident on Friday, a Boeing 747 en route to Australia was also forced to turn back to Singapore. Joyce said an engine on that plane produced "smoke and sparks" but called it a "contained engine failure" and said there were no plans to ground the airline's 747 fleet. "We are not concerned about our 747 fleet," he said. However, the incidents have cast a shadow over Qantas' anniversary celebrations, which on Saturday included a visit by Hollywood actor John Travolta, who is a pilot and an aviation enthusiast. Travolta piloted his own vintage 707 in old Qantas livery for the cameras before voicing his personal support for the airline. "The Qantas brand around the world is very strong," Travolta said. A Qantas spokeswoman told Reuters that although both Thursday and Friday's incidents involved Rolls-Royce engines they were of different types and the incidents were distinct. "They are different aircraft and they are different engines. They are very different incidents," she said. Shares in Rolls-Royce, Airbus parent EADS and Qantas all lost ground on Friday following Thursday's incident. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A435P20101106?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=76 -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA On 11/4/2010 10:50 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Someone turned their cellphone on... Walt -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Yeah there was a fuel leak out of a round cover on the wing. Bad gasket or loose screws I guess. Not a huge leak, but a noticeable trickle. Based on the stains on the wing it looked like it had been ongoing for some time. Now that I think about it, it was an American MD-80, not Delta. Allan On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:42 -0500, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > leaking fuel out of the wing? > > On 11/4/2010 4:06 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > > I don't like the little Embraer jets that the regionals use... last time I > > was on one they couldn't verify the gear was down for landing, had to fly > > by the tower to get a visual verification. This was on a Delta-affiliated > > regional airline... last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. > > The MD-80 I flew on the next leg of the same trip was like 30 years old and > > leaking fuel out of the wing the whole way. > > > > Allan > > > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Someone pulled up to the wrong pump ? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 4, 2010, at 23:50, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > Someone turned their cellphone on... > > Walt > On Nov 4, 2010 11:45 PM, "Peter Frederick" wrote: >> Not that I'm an expert or anything, but the turbine section looked OK >> to be, it was the middle of the engine that appears to have blown out >> -- combustion section or high pressure comriessor. Very unusual. >> Modern jet engines are almost unbelievably reliable, and it's not >> likely to have been a bird strike 6 min into a flight (but not >> impossible -- whistling swans have been know to collide with aircraft >> as high as 12,000 ft). >> >> Don't know much about that particular engine, though, it's not an >> RB211 -- my brother who worked for GE Aircraft Engines didn't think >> much of the RB211. This one is newer, larger, and is certainly a more >> complex beast. >> >> Qantas is one of the best airlines flying, so I'm sure they will find >> and fix the problem as fast as anyone could. >> >> Peter >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
leaking fuel out of the wing? On 11/4/2010 4:06 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I don't like the little Embraer jets that the regionals use... last time I was on one they couldn't verify the gear was down for landing, had to fly by the tower to get a visual verification. This was on a Delta-affiliated regional airline... last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. The MD-80 I flew on the next leg of the same trip was like 30 years old and leaking fuel out of the wing the whole way. Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
"Hey Capt Billie, do ya think we should shut off that fuel dump valve, or just leave it? Does make kinda a pretty trail." hee hee Ed 300E On 4 November 2010 22:42, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > leaking fuel out of the wing? > > On 11/4/2010 4:06 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > >> I don't like the little Embraer jets that the regionals use... last time I >> was on one they couldn't verify the gear was down for landing, had to fly by >> the tower to get a visual verification. This was on a Delta-affiliated >> regional airline... last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. >> The MD-80 I flew on the next leg of the same trip was like 30 years old and >> leaking fuel out of the wing the whole way. >> >> Allan >> >> >> > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Someone turned their cellphone on... Walt On Nov 4, 2010 11:45 PM, "Peter Frederick" wrote: > Not that I'm an expert or anything, but the turbine section looked OK > to be, it was the middle of the engine that appears to have blown out > -- combustion section or high pressure comriessor. Very unusual. > Modern jet engines are almost unbelievably reliable, and it's not > likely to have been a bird strike 6 min into a flight (but not > impossible -- whistling swans have been know to collide with aircraft > as high as 12,000 ft). > > Don't know much about that particular engine, though, it's not an > RB211 -- my brother who worked for GE Aircraft Engines didn't think > much of the RB211. This one is newer, larger, and is certainly a more > complex beast. > > Qantas is one of the best airlines flying, so I'm sure they will find > and fix the problem as fast as anyone could. > > Peter > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Not that I'm an expert or anything, but the turbine section looked OK to be, it was the middle of the engine that appears to have blown out -- combustion section or high pressure comriessor. Very unusual. Modern jet engines are almost unbelievably reliable, and it's not likely to have been a bird strike 6 min into a flight (but not impossible -- whistling swans have been know to collide with aircraft as high as 12,000 ft). Don't know much about that particular engine, though, it's not an RB211 -- my brother who worked for GE Aircraft Engines didn't think much of the RB211. This one is newer, larger, and is certainly a more complex beast. Qantas is one of the best airlines flying, so I'm sure they will find and fix the problem as fast as anyone could. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Interesting if that was an expansion turbine failure it did not cause a lot of fire, or shake the whole engine apart when it energetically dissociated. Not sure how those engines are configured but it did not look like the aft section of the actual engine was too damaged, which a turbine failure would do. I guess they will figure it out since it looks like they have most of the pieces. --R On 11/4/10 10:01 PM, OK Don wrote: Yup - I'd a-been scared - for a multitude of reasons! Back to the A380 - EAA newsletter quote: "*A380 LOSES ENGINE COWLING IN-FLIGHT, FLEET GROUNDED* [image: Airbus engine]<http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=200408724&sid=11272919&m=1155034&u=ExAA&s=http://www.oshkosh365.org/ok365_DiscussionBoardTopic.aspx?id=1235&boardid=147&forumid=175&topicid=5708&page=1>A Qantas Airlines Airbus A380 lost a portion of the No. 2 engine cowling shortly after takeoff from Singapore's Changi Airport today (November 4). The aircraft, with 466 passengers and crew, was six minutes into the flight to Sydney, Australia, when the engine shut down and passengers reported hearing two loud bangs. In published photos, the aft or "hot" section of the Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engine is entirely visible. The images also show that the cowling separation damaged an area on top of the wing above where the engine is mounted. Missing pieces of the engine were found miles from the airport. Qantas immediately grounded the remaining A380s in its fleet until the cause of the incident can be determined. Watch the video<http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=200408724&sid=11272920&m=1155034&u=ExAA&s=http://www.oshkosh365.org/ok365_DiscussionBoardTopic.aspx?id=1235&boardid=147&forumid=175&topicid=5708&page=1> " On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:48 PM, WILTON wrote: A bit scary when I remember that I spent 5000 hours aboard very large, multi-engine aircraft built by lowest bidders. Wilton - Original Message ----- From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 Anything with more than one engine is "too many small parts flying in close formation." That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was doing a little volunteer work at a local air museum here a number of years ago. One of the projects, was to bring indoors and and gatherrf more info on them, we learned they were apparently made under contract by Maytag. Wonder if we had called up the 1-800 number, if they would have sent that Maytag repairman we used to see on TV, over to help us out? hee hee Ed 300E On 4 November 2010 21:48, WILTON wrote: > A bit scary when I remember that I spent 5000 hours aboard very large, > multi-engine aircraft built by lowest bidders. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "OK Don" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:38 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 > > > Anything with more than one engine is "too many small parts flying in >> close >> formation." >> That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. >> -- >> OK Don >> 2001 ML320 >> 1992 300D 2.5T >> 1990 300D 2.5T >> 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: "John Reames" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 But made to milspec, right? Isn't an elephant just a milspec mouse (or something like that...) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 4, 2010, at 21:48, "WILTON" wrote: A bit scary when I remember that I spent 5000 hours aboard very large, multi-engine aircraft built by lowest bidders. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 Anything with more than one engine is "too many small parts flying in close formation." That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
But made to milspec, right? Isn't an elephant just a milspec mouse (or something like that...) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 4, 2010, at 21:48, "WILTON" wrote: > A bit scary when I remember that I spent 5000 hours aboard very large, > multi-engine aircraft built by lowest bidders. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "OK Don" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:38 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 > > >> Anything with more than one engine is "too many small parts flying in close >> formation." >> That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. >> -- >> OK Don >> 2001 ML320 >> 1992 300D 2.5T >> 1990 300D 2.5T >> 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:06:51 -0400 "Allan Streib" wrote: > last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. I flew on a Delta 757 from Albuquerque to Atlanta on my way here to Knoxville last week. Nice plane, but not too much room between seats. But the airline is the one that determines that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yup - I'd a-been scared - for a multitude of reasons! Back to the A380 - EAA newsletter quote: "*A380 LOSES ENGINE COWLING IN-FLIGHT, FLEET GROUNDED* [image: Airbus engine]<http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=200408724&sid=11272919&m=1155034&u=ExAA&s=http://www.oshkosh365.org/ok365_DiscussionBoardTopic.aspx?id=1235&boardid=147&forumid=175&topicid=5708&page=1>A Qantas Airlines Airbus A380 lost a portion of the No. 2 engine cowling shortly after takeoff from Singapore's Changi Airport today (November 4). The aircraft, with 466 passengers and crew, was six minutes into the flight to Sydney, Australia, when the engine shut down and passengers reported hearing two loud bangs. In published photos, the aft or "hot" section of the Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engine is entirely visible. The images also show that the cowling separation damaged an area on top of the wing above where the engine is mounted. Missing pieces of the engine were found miles from the airport. Qantas immediately grounded the remaining A380s in its fleet until the cause of the incident can be determined. Watch the video<http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=200408724&sid=11272920&m=1155034&u=ExAA&s=http://www.oshkosh365.org/ok365_DiscussionBoardTopic.aspx?id=1235&boardid=147&forumid=175&topicid=5708&page=1> " On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:48 PM, WILTON wrote: > A bit scary when I remember that I spent 5000 hours aboard very large, > multi-engine aircraft built by lowest bidders. > > Wilton > > - Original Message ----- From: "OK Don" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 > > > Anything with more than one engine is "too many small parts flying in >> close >> formation." >> That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. >> -- >> OK Don >> 2001 ML320 >> 1992 300D 2.5T >> 1990 300D 2.5T >> 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
A bit scary when I remember that I spent 5000 hours aboard very large, multi-engine aircraft built by lowest bidders. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 Anything with more than one engine is "too many small parts flying in close formation." That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Lufthansa and others are staying with their regular programmes for now; as you say, they are using different engines than RR. It will be interesting to hear the final report of the cause of the failure. As with all such investigations, they'll suspect nothing, and look at everything. Ed 300E On 4 November 2010 20:58, Peter Frederick wrote: > It was a Rolls Royce engine the blew up -- those airlines using GE engines > (or others) are not grounding their fleets, at least not yet. > > I suspect it's NOT an airframe problem. > > Peter > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Anything with more than one engine is "too many small parts flying in close formation." That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
It was a Rolls Royce engine the blew up -- those airlines using GE engines (or others) are not grounding their fleets, at least not yet. I suspect it's NOT an airframe problem. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Actually, the opposite is true, or at least was at the time the numbers were crunched. You statistically have a better survival rate if you fly everywhere vs driving. Walt On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Allan Streib wrote: >> >> I don't like the little Embraer jets that the regionals use... last time I >> was on one they couldn't verify the gear was down for landing, had to fly by >> the tower to get a visual verification. This was on a Delta-affiliated >> regional airline... last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. >> The MD-80 I flew on the next leg of the same trip was like 30 years old and >> leaking fuel out of the wing the whole way. > > > Small plane commercial pilot is, IIRC, the 3rd most dangerous job in USA. > I suspect driving a car is safer than riding with them. > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
Allan Streib wrote: I don't like the little Embraer jets that the regionals use... last time I was on one they couldn't verify the gear was down for landing, had to fly by the tower to get a visual verification. This was on a Delta-affiliated regional airline... last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. The MD-80 I flew on the next leg of the same trip was like 30 years old and leaking fuel out of the wing the whole way. Small plane commercial pilot is, IIRC, the 3rd most dangerous job in USA. I suspect driving a car is safer than riding with them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have flown many times in de Havilland (now Bombardier) aircraft. I am confident that they can put down almost anywhere in the event of lost power. For jets I too prefer Boeing. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380 I got slightly nervous on the teensy dehavilland (sp?) dash-8's... Then I decided that I won't have to worry about what to do if an engine throws a prop if I sit in line with said prop :P -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 4, 2010, at 17:06, "Allan Streib" wrote: > I don't like the little Embraer jets that the regionals use... last time I was on one they couldn't verify the gear was down for landing, had to fly by the tower to get a visual verification. This was on a Delta-affiliated regional airline... last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. The MD-80 I flew on the next leg of the same trip was like 30 years old and leaking fuel out of the wing the whole way. > > Allan > > > On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:37 -0400, "Walt Zarnoch" wrote: >> I prefer Boeing or MD, or the little puddle jumper jets. >> Then again I've only been in the air 8 times, so I don't have much >> experience to know which is better. >> >> Northwest, then Delta after the merger. Seems to be the best fare for >> me, but I look at all options first. >> >> Walt, who likes the but dyno feeling of getting up to 142mph in the >> puddle jumper jets on takeoff... >> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Allan Streib >> wrote: >>> I try to fly Southwest. Cattle-car experience but the fleet is all Boeing. Every time I have been on an Airbus the things seemed to labor just to get off the ground. >>> >>> Allan. >>> >>> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:04 -0500, "R A Bennell" wrote: >>>> Might get this wrong but heard on radio in my truck that Australian >>>> airline has grounded its fleet of the Airbus A380 because one of theirs >>>> suffered an engine explosion over Indonesia. Managed to land but that >>>> must have given a few folks a bit of a scare. >>>> >>>> Randy >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Delta's always used CRJ's when I've flown, those things are a cigar tube, but damn fun at takeoff! Walt On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:27 PM, John Reames wrote: > I got slightly nervous on the teensy dehavilland (sp?) dash-8's... Then I > decided that I won't have to worry about what to do if an engine throws a > prop if I sit in line with said prop :P > > > -- > John W Reames > jwrea...@comcast.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Nov 4, 2010, at 17:06, "Allan Streib" wrote: > >> I don't like the little Embraer jets that the regionals use... last time I >> was on one they couldn't verify the gear was down for landing, had to fly by >> the tower to get a visual verification. This was on a Delta-affiliated >> regional airline... last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. >> The MD-80 I flew on the next leg of the same trip was like 30 years old and >> leaking fuel out of the wing the whole way. >> >> Allan >> >> >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:37 -0400, "Walt Zarnoch" wrote: >>> I prefer Boeing or MD, or the little puddle jumper jets. >>> Then again I've only been in the air 8 times, so I don't have much >>> experience to know which is better. >>> >>> Northwest, then Delta after the merger. Seems to be the best fare for >>> me, but I look at all options first. >>> >>> Walt, who likes the but dyno feeling of getting up to 142mph in the >>> puddle jumper jets on takeoff... >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Allan Streib >>> wrote: I try to fly Southwest. Cattle-car experience but the fleet is all Boeing. Every time I have been on an Airbus the things seemed to labor just to get off the ground. Allan. On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:04 -0500, "R A Bennell" wrote: > Might get this wrong but heard on radio in my truck that Australian > airline has grounded its fleet of the Airbus A380 because one of theirs > suffered an engine explosion over Indonesia. Managed to land but that > must have given a few folks a bit of a scare. > > Randy > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
I got slightly nervous on the teensy dehavilland (sp?) dash-8's... Then I decided that I won't have to worry about what to do if an engine throws a prop if I sit in line with said prop :P -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 4, 2010, at 17:06, "Allan Streib" wrote: > I don't like the little Embraer jets that the regionals use... last time I > was on one they couldn't verify the gear was down for landing, had to fly by > the tower to get a visual verification. This was on a Delta-affiliated > regional airline... last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. > The MD-80 I flew on the next leg of the same trip was like 30 years old and > leaking fuel out of the wing the whole way. > > Allan > > > On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:37 -0400, "Walt Zarnoch" wrote: >> I prefer Boeing or MD, or the little puddle jumper jets. >> Then again I've only been in the air 8 times, so I don't have much >> experience to know which is better. >> >> Northwest, then Delta after the merger. Seems to be the best fare for >> me, but I look at all options first. >> >> Walt, who likes the but dyno feeling of getting up to 142mph in the >> puddle jumper jets on takeoff... >> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Allan Streib >> wrote: >>> I try to fly Southwest. Cattle-car experience but the fleet is all Boeing. >>> Every time I have been on an Airbus the things seemed to labor just to get >>> off the ground. >>> >>> Allan. >>> >>> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:04 -0500, "R A Bennell" wrote: Might get this wrong but heard on radio in my truck that Australian airline has grounded its fleet of the Airbus A380 because one of theirs suffered an engine explosion over Indonesia. Managed to land but that must have given a few folks a bit of a scare. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
I don't like the little Embraer jets that the regionals use... last time I was on one they couldn't verify the gear was down for landing, had to fly by the tower to get a visual verification. This was on a Delta-affiliated regional airline... last time I flew Delta also, their planes are ancient. The MD-80 I flew on the next leg of the same trip was like 30 years old and leaking fuel out of the wing the whole way. Allan On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:37 -0400, "Walt Zarnoch" wrote: > I prefer Boeing or MD, or the little puddle jumper jets. > Then again I've only been in the air 8 times, so I don't have much > experience to know which is better. > > Northwest, then Delta after the merger. Seems to be the best fare for > me, but I look at all options first. > > Walt, who likes the but dyno feeling of getting up to 142mph in the > puddle jumper jets on takeoff... > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Allan Streib > wrote: > > I try to fly Southwest. Cattle-car experience but the fleet is all Boeing. > > Every time I have been on an Airbus the things seemed to labor just to get > > off the ground. > > > > Allan. > > > > On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:04 -0500, "R A Bennell" wrote: > >> Might get this wrong but heard on radio in my truck that Australian > >> airline has grounded its fleet of the Airbus A380 because one of theirs > >> suffered an engine explosion over Indonesia. Managed to land but that > >> must have given a few folks a bit of a scare. > >> > >> Randy > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
I prefer Boeing or MD, or the little puddle jumper jets. Then again I've only been in the air 8 times, so I don't have much experience to know which is better. Northwest, then Delta after the merger. Seems to be the best fare for me, but I look at all options first. Walt, who likes the but dyno feeling of getting up to 142mph in the puddle jumper jets on takeoff... On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > I try to fly Southwest. Cattle-car experience but the fleet is all Boeing. > Every time I have been on an Airbus the things seemed to labor just to get > off the ground. > > Allan. > > On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:04 -0500, "R A Bennell" wrote: >> Might get this wrong but heard on radio in my truck that Australian >> airline has grounded its fleet of the Airbus A380 because one of theirs >> suffered an engine explosion over Indonesia. Managed to land but that >> must have given a few folks a bit of a scare. >> >> Randy >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
I try to fly Southwest. Cattle-car experience but the fleet is all Boeing. Every time I have been on an Airbus the things seemed to labor just to get off the ground. Allan. On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:04 -0500, "R A Bennell" wrote: > Might get this wrong but heard on radio in my truck that Australian > airline has grounded its fleet of the Airbus A380 because one of theirs > suffered an engine explosion over Indonesia. Managed to land but that > must have given a few folks a bit of a scare. > > Randy > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Quantas and Airbus A380
I think Singapore grounded theirs too, pending an investigation. Apparently, the engine let go with a pretty good bang! There are a few pics around of some of the damage done to the wing, snapped while in flight. All ended well though, with the plane and everyone aboard back on the ground safely. Ed 300E On 4 November 2010 15:04, R A Bennell wrote: > Might get this wrong but heard on radio in my truck that Australian airline > has grounded its fleet of the Airbus A380 because one of theirs suffered an > engine explosion over Indonesia. Managed to land but that must have given a > few folks a bit of a scare. > > Randy > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
