RE: WAN / Application Optimizer

2009-03-19 Thread Malcolm Reitz
+1

 

We use Riverbeds extensively in our WAN environment and they make a big
difference in performance for most applications. 

 

-Malcolm

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WAN / Application Optimizer

 

We are a Riverbed partner and use them as well.

Very nice. People love em!

 

From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WAN / Application Optimizer

 

Hellos.

 

Anyone out there using any type of WAN / Application Optimizer such as
Riverbed?

 

We are looking around and wanted some thoughts.

 

Thanks.

 

CAR

 

 

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RCN

2009-03-19 Thread Chipshead


Anyone use RCN as a business class Internet provider? If so please s h are your 
opinion and experiences . We are considering using them in the Boston area. 
Thanks . 

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IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Ross
FYI

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2318

 

 


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Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Brumbaugh, Luke
I have loaded a server with 2008 STD 32bit with file services and it seems that 
the xp/2003 machines have slow performance connecting or reading drives.
I have checked the taskmgr and cpu is low 1-10% and memory low (4gb installed 
and 700mg - 950 mg used).
Virus protection loaded (Symantec in a non-cache mode).
A few of the domain admins have vista but we have no problems, so I don't know 
if it is because we a admins or because we have vista.
I do have an xp machine next to me that doesn't experience problems, but I only 
use it to run other admin tools that don't run on vista (phone system etc.)

Anyone have an idea what might be wrong?  Or is 2008 as big a P.I.T.A. as vista 
is?

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RE: WAN / Application Optimizer

2009-03-19 Thread Martin Blackstone
MAPI and CIFS traffic kick a** over Riverbed!

 

From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WAN / Application Optimizer

 

+1

 

We use Riverbeds extensively in our WAN environment and they make a big
difference in performance for most applications. 

 

-Malcolm

 

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WAN / Application Optimizer

 

We are a Riverbed partner and use them as well.

Very nice. People love em!

 

From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WAN / Application Optimizer

 

Hellos.

 

Anyone out there using any type of WAN / Application Optimizer such as
Riverbed?

 

We are looking around and wanted some thoughts.

 

Thanks.

 

CAR

 

 

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread RichardMcClary
The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops before 
they can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 rather 
dispiclable!
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Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote on 03/19/2009 07:44:32 AM:

 FYI
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2318
 
 
 
 
 
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Shareware Product

2009-03-19 Thread Dennis Rogov
Hi everyone 

would anyone know of a shareware tool that will scan my file server and report 
on each folder and subfolder down to the file level permission access? 

I currently have a mixed mode of 2000 and 03 AD 

Thank You 

Dr

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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Vue, Za
Another pointless MS browsers. Already annoyed the heck out of people. HTF do 
you get rid of the annoying You have disabled Add-on message on top when 
there is no disabled add-on? MS needs to dig itself out of the ActiveX hole it 
dug and partner with Mozilla or Mac and incorporate their browsers into Windows 
7. Until then don't wake us up.

-Z.V.
From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today


The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops before they can 
browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 rather dispiclable!
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ASPCA(r)
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802

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07:44:32 AM:

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 http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2318











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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Leif Wahlberg
dispiclable  ???

 

My dictionary is not smart enough for this.

 

Leif Wahlberg

Admin by default

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 21:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 


The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops before they
can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 rather dispiclable!
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
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Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote on 03/19/2009 07:44:32 AM:

 FYI 
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2318 
   
   
 
   
   

 

 

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Re: Shareware Product

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Dennis Rogov
dennis_rogov2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 would anyone know of a shareware tool that will scan my file server and 
 report on each
 folder and subfolder down to the file level permission access?

  SHOWACLS.EXE from the Windows Resource Kit will do that.  It's not
shareware, though.  It's licensed as part of Windows; you've already
paid for it.  Sorry you can't pay more money for it.  :)

-- Ben

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SMS Messaging

2009-03-19 Thread Robert Jackson
We've had a requirement from one of our customers to provide a facility
for SMS text messaging.

Does anyone have a feeling as to whether we should do this ourselves by
getting one or more SMS modems or using one of the many SMS services
out there?

Our application (to a backend database) has 2 methods of access:-
a web interface used by call centres and various levels of stakeholders
or a
Terminal Services logon to access the client runtime (this method allows
more
functionality than the web interface).

We're talking about sending/receiving roughly 10,000 SMS texts/month.
Texts
will be sent mainly from our web interface, but this facility could be
opened up
to Terminal Server users accessing the system/database.

Does anyone have any recommendations?


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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Ross
Agreed, but you COULD disable all that with a reg setting.

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 


The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops before they
can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 rather dispiclable!
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
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Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote on 03/19/2009 07:44:32 AM:

 FYI 
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2318 
   
   
 
   
   

 

 

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
I'm sure he meant:  despicable...honest mistake after a long day at work.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Leif Wahlberg lef...@gmail.com wrote:

  dispiclable  ???



 My dictionary is not smart enough for this.



 Leif Wahlberg

 Admin by default



 *From:* richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2009 21:00
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: IE 8 today




 The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops before they
 can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 rather dispiclable!
 --
 Richard D. McClary
 Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group

 *ASPCA®*
 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
 Urbana, IL  61802

 richardmccl...@aspca.org

 P: 217-337-9761
 C: 217-417-1182
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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread RichardMcClary
Correct on both counts - and it was still early in said day!
--
Richard


Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.com wrote on 03/19/2009 08:34:57 AM:

 I'm sure he meant:  despicable...honest mistake after a long day at 
work.

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Leif Wahlberg lef...@gmail.com wrote:
 dispiclable  ???
  
 My dictionary is not smart enough for this.
  
 Leif Wahlberg
 Admin by default
  
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 21:00 
 
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: IE 8 today
  
 
 The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops 
 before they can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 
 rather dispiclable!
 -- 
 Richard D. McClary 
 Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
   
 ASPCA® 
 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
 Urbana, IL  61802 
   
 richardmccl...@aspca.org 
   
 P: 217-337-9761 
 C: 217-417-1182 
 F: 217-337-9761 
 www.aspca.org 
   
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  FYI 
  http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2318 


  


  
  
 
  
  
 
 
 
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RE: Shareware Product

2009-03-19 Thread René de Haas
Dumpsec, free.

Ren��

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Rogov [mailto:dennis_rogov2...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Shareware Product

Hi everyone 

would anyone know of a shareware tool that will scan my file server and report 
on each folder and subfolder down to the file level permission access? 

I currently have a mixed mode of 2000 and 03 AD 

Thank You 

Dr

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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Ross
I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the top
dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
installed and configured.

Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on and
not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
memory problems.

 

 

From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today

 

Another pointless MS browsers. Already annoyed the heck out of people. HTF
do you get rid of the annoying You have disabled Add-on message on top
when there is no disabled add-on? MS needs to dig itself out of the ActiveX
hole it dug and partner with Mozilla or Mac and incorporate their browsers
into Windows 7. Until then don't wake us up.

 

-Z.V.

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 


The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops before they
can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 rather dispiclable!
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
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 http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2318 
   
   
 
   
   

 

 

 

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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Leif Wahlberg
Not easy to get for us with English as a third language.

 

Leif

 

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 21:35
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 

I'm sure he meant:  despicable...honest mistake after a long day at work.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Leif Wahlberg lef...@gmail.com wrote:

dispiclable  ???

 

My dictionary is not smart enough for this.

 

Leif Wahlberg

Admin by default

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 21:00 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 


The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops before they
can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 rather dispiclable!
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
C: 217-417-1182 
F: 217-337-9761 
 http://www.aspca.org/ www.aspca.org 
  

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 FYI 
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2318 
   
   
 
   
   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: SMS Messaging

2009-03-19 Thread Rod Trent
Why not use the resources of another.  Setup a company Twitter account.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Jackson r...@walkermartyn.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: SMS Messaging

We've had a requirement from one of our customers to provide a facility
for SMS text messaging.

Does anyone have a feeling as to whether we should do this ourselves by
getting one or more SMS modems or using one of the many SMS services
out there?

Our application (to a backend database) has 2 methods of access:-
a web interface used by call centres and various levels of stakeholders
or a
Terminal Services logon to access the client runtime (this method allows
more
functionality than the web interface).

We're talking about sending/receiving roughly 10,000 SMS texts/month.
Texts
will be sent mainly from our web interface, but this facility could be
opened up
to Terminal Server users accessing the system/database.

Does anyone have any recommendations?


TIA.



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Re: SMS Messaging

2009-03-19 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
What, you mean use a social networking site for business purposes???  Oh my,
what a concept.




(please note, extreme sarcasm above)

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

 Why not use the resources of another.  Setup a company Twitter account.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Jackson r...@walkermartyn.co.uk
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:28 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: SMS Messaging

 We've had a requirement from one of our customers to provide a facility
 for SMS text messaging.

 Does anyone have a feeling as to whether we should do this ourselves by
 getting one or more SMS modems or using one of the many SMS services
 out there?

 Our application (to a backend database) has 2 methods of access:-
 a web interface used by call centres and various levels of stakeholders
 or a
 Terminal Services logon to access the client runtime (this method allows
 more
 functionality than the web interface).

 We're talking about sending/receiving roughly 10,000 SMS texts/month.
 Texts
 will be sent mainly from our web interface, but this facility could be
 opened up
 to Terminal Server users accessing the system/database.

 Does anyone have any recommendations?


 TIA.


 
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RE: SMS Messaging

2009-03-19 Thread John Aldrich
Yep. No one has *ever* thought of that before.. Nothing like LinkedIn or
anything. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SMS Messaging

 

What, you mean use a social networking site for business purposes???  Oh my,
what a concept. 




(please note, extreme sarcasm above) 

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Why not use the resources of another.  Setup a company Twitter account.


-Original Message-
From: Robert Jackson r...@walkermartyn.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: SMS Messaging

We've had a requirement from one of our customers to provide a facility
for SMS text messaging.

Does anyone have a feeling as to whether we should do this ourselves by
getting one or more SMS modems or using one of the many SMS services
out there?

Our application (to a backend database) has 2 methods of access:-
a web interface used by call centres and various levels of stakeholders
or a
Terminal Services logon to access the client runtime (this method allows
more
functionality than the web interface).

We're talking about sending/receiving roughly 10,000 SMS texts/month.
Texts
will be sent mainly from our web interface, but this facility could be
opened up
to Terminal Server users accessing the system/database.

Does anyone have any recommendations?


TIA.



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RE: SMS Messaging

2009-03-19 Thread Simon Butler
Has your client looked at the costs of doing this?
I have been asked before to do it and every time it has been dropped because of 
the costs. 
Here in the UK there are no free options, and unless you limit it heavily, the 
staff will abuse it. 
You will need to sign up with one of the bulk suppliers, but you will be 
looking at between 2.5 and 7p a message, depending on the volume. On bulk 
messaging 10,000 messages is not a lot, add another two zeros to get the best 
rates. At 10,000 pcm expect to pay around 4 or 5p a message - UK numbers only. 
Double it for international in most cases. 

As for how to do it, there are two ways. Hardware, where you have a SIM on a 
device connected to your network and software, where the message is sent to a 
service provider, usually using an API. 

The market is very competitive so have a good look round. If you can do it with 
hardware and your own systems then you can move between providers easily. 

Simon. 


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-Original Message-
From: Robert Jackson [mailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk] 
Sent: 19 March 2009 13:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SMS Messaging

We've had a requirement from one of our customers to provide a facility
for SMS text messaging.

Does anyone have a feeling as to whether we should do this ourselves by
getting one or more SMS modems or using one of the many SMS services
out there?

Our application (to a backend database) has 2 methods of access:-
a web interface used by call centres and various levels of stakeholders
or a
Terminal Services logon to access the client runtime (this method allows
more
functionality than the web interface).

We're talking about sending/receiving roughly 10,000 SMS texts/month.
Texts
will be sent mainly from our web interface, but this facility could be
opened up
to Terminal Server users accessing the system/database.

Does anyone have any recommendations?


TIA.



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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread RichardMcClary
Hope you never get this issue...

No browser is allowed to download anything - even if you are running as a 
domain admin.  As PDF files need to be downloaded and then opened by the 
add-in, this means they cannot be read.  It also hoses MS Update as those 
are files downloaded and installed.

It does not matter what browser you are using.  All (IE7, FF, Chrome, and 
Opera) will give an error box stating that the security settings forbid 
downloading from that site (even your own internal web servers).

So far, the only fix we've found is to get a copy of the IE7 installer on 
portable media and to re-install it on the afflicted machine.  (One can 
install it from a network share, provided no browser is used to access the 
share.)
--
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Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
 
ASPCA®
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802
 
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Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote on 03/19/2009 09:08:11 AM:

 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is 
 the top dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with
 IE7pro installed and configured.
 Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get
 the sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its 
 running on and not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I 
 just reboot and in 1.5 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a 
 pepsi.. im back up and no more memory problems.
 
 
 From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:17 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today
 
 Another pointless MS browsers. Already annoyed the heck out of 
 people. HTF do you get rid of the annoying ?You have disabled Add-
 on? message on top when there is no disabled add-on? MS needs to dig
 itself out of the ActiveX hole it dug and partner with Mozilla or 
 Mac and incorporate their browsers into Windows 7. Until then don?t 
 wake us up.
 
 -Z.V.
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:00 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: IE 8 today
 
 
 The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops 
 before they can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 
 rather dispiclable!
 -- 
 Richard D. McClary 
 Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
 
 ASPCA® 
 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
 Urbana, IL  61802 
 
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local printers in TS

2009-03-19 Thread Paul Everett
I set up a new Terminal Server and users are pulling their local/mapped
printers to the TS.  I know I can uncheck the printer box in Local
Resources tab during login, but I have other Terminal Servers that don't
show users local printers without unchecking that box.  I can't remember
what I did to keep this from happening, but probably a local or AD group
policy somewhere.  Can someone direct me where to look?  Server 2003.

Thanks,

 

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Re: WAN / Application Optimizer

2009-03-19 Thread Kurt Buff
How well do they fare in high-latency environments, such as between an
office in Redmond and one on either the UK or AU?

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 05:53, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote:

 MAPI and CIFS traffic kick a** over Riverbed!



 From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:56 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: WAN / Application Optimizer



 +1



 We use Riverbeds extensively in our WAN environment and they make a big 
 difference in performance for most applications.



 -Malcolm



 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:38 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: WAN / Application Optimizer



 We are a Riverbed partner and use them as well.

 Very nice. People love em!



 From: Cesare' A. Ramos [mailto:cra...@idfllc.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:34 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: WAN / Application Optimizer



 Hellos.



 Anyone out there using any type of WAN / Application Optimizer such as 
 Riverbed?



 We are looking around and wanted some thoughts.



 Thanks.



 CAR





 

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Re: Shareware Product

2009-03-19 Thread Kurt Buff
Fileacl.exe - it's free, too.

One of the nicer features it has is that it has the ability to turn
it's report into a batch file, so that you can come back to it later
and re-do the permissions.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 06:10, Dennis Rogov dennis_rogov2...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi everyone

 would anyone know of a shareware tool that will scan my file server and 
 report on each folder and subfolder down to the file level permission access?

 I currently have a mixed mode of 2000 and 03 AD

 Thank You

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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread David Lum
That sounds like what I see if IE7 enhanced security settings are enabled, 
which is changed via add/remove of all places...
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NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764



From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today


Hope you never get this issue...

No browser is allowed to download anything - even if you are running as a 
domain admin.  As PDF files need to be downloaded and then opened by the 
add-in, this means they cannot be read.  It also hoses MS Update as those are 
files downloaded and installed.

It does not matter what browser you are using.  All (IE7, FF, Chrome, and 
Opera) will give an error box stating that the security settings forbid 
downloading from that site (even your own internal web servers).

So far, the only fix we've found is to get a copy of the IE7 installer on 
portable media and to re-install it on the afflicted machine.  (One can install 
it from a network share, provided no browser is used to access the share.)
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group

ASPCA(r)
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802

richardmccl...@aspca.org

P: 217-337-9761
C: 217-417-1182
F: 217-337-9761
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Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote on 03/19/2009 09:08:11 AM:

 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is
 the top dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with
 IE7pro installed and configured.
 Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get
 the sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its
 running on and not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I
 just reboot and in 1.5 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a
 pepsi.. im back up and no more memory problems.


 From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:17 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today

 Another pointless MS browsers. Already annoyed the heck out of
 people. HTF do you get rid of the annoying You have disabled Add-
 on message on top when there is no disabled add-on? MS needs to dig
 itself out of the ActiveX hole it dug and partner with Mozilla or
 Mac and incorporate their browsers into Windows 7. Until then don't
 wake us up.

 -Z.V.
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:00 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: IE 8 today


 The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops
 before they can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7
 rather dispiclable!
 --
 Richard D. McClary
 Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group

 ASPCA(r)
 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
 Urbana, IL  61802

 richardmccl...@aspca.org

 P: 217-337-9761
 C: 217-417-1182
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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread RichardMcClary
Hmmm...  We never thought to look there (yes, we know how it is done). The 
screwy thing is, the problem occurs suddenly on machines which had never 
had apparent problems.

Does this enhanced security block all browers and not just IE?  That's 
almost crossing the line into malware...
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
 
ASPCA®
David Lum david@nwea.org wrote on 03/19/2009 09:43:03 AM:

 That sounds like what I see if IE7 ?enhanced security settings are 
 enabled?, which is changed via add/remove of all places?
 David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
 NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
 (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
 
 
 
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:38 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today
 
 
 Hope you never get this issue... 
 
 No browser is allowed to download anything - even if you are running
 as a domain admin.  As PDF files need to be downloaded and then 
 opened by the add-in, this means they cannot be read.  It also hoses
 MS Update as those are files downloaded and installed. 
 
 It does not matter what browser you are using.  All (IE7, FF, 
 Chrome, and Opera) will give an error box stating that the security 
 settings forbid downloading from that site (even your own internal 
 web servers). 
 
 So far, the only fix we've found is to get a copy of the IE7 
 installer on portable media and to re-install it on the afflicted 
 machine.  (One can install it from a network share, provided no 
 browser is used to access the share.)
 -- 
 Richard D. McClary 
 Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
 
 ASPCA® 
 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
 Urbana, IL  61802 
 
 richardmccl...@aspca.org 
 
 P: 217-337-9761 
 C: 217-417-1182 
 F: 217-337-9761 
 www.aspca.org 
 
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 Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote on 03/19/2009 09:08:11 AM:
 
  I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is 
  the top dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with
  IE7pro installed and configured. 
  Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get
  the sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its 
  running on and not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I 
  just reboot and in 1.5 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a 
  pepsi.. im back up and no more memory problems. 
  
  
  From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu] 
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:17 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: IE 8 today 
  
  Another pointless MS browsers. Already annoyed the heck out of 
  people. HTF do you get rid of the annoying ?You have disabled Add-
  on? message on top when there is no disabled add-on? MS needs to dig
  itself out of the ActiveX hole it dug and partner with Mozilla or 
  Mac and incorporate their browsers into Windows 7. Until then don?t 
  wake us up. 
  
  -Z.V. 
  From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:00 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: IE 8 today 
  
  
  The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops 
  before they can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 
  rather dispiclable!
  -- 
  Richard D. McClary 
  Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
  ASPCA® 
  1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
  Urbana, IL  61802 
  
  richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
  P: 217-337-9761 
  C: 217-417-1182 
  F: 217-337-9761 
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   FYI 
 

RE: SMS Messaging

2009-03-19 Thread Rod Trent
A lot of companies are doing this now for customer updates and alerting.

-Original Message-
From: Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: SMS Messaging

What, you mean use a social networking site for business purposes???  Oh my, 
what a concept. 




(please note, extreme sarcasm above) 

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
Why not use the resources of another.  Setup a company Twitter account.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Jackson r...@walkermartyn.co.uk
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:28 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: SMS Messaging

 We've had a requirement from one of our customers to provide a facility
 for SMS text messaging.

 Does anyone have a feeling as to whether we should do this ourselves by
 getting one or more SMS modems or using one of the many SMS services
 out there?

 Our application (to a backend database) has 2 methods of access:-
 a web interface used by call centres and various levels of stakeholders
 or a
 Terminal Services logon to access the client runtime (this method allows
 more
 functionality than the web interface).

 We're talking about sending/receiving roughly 10,000 SMS texts/month.
 Texts
 will be sent mainly from our web interface, but this facility could be
 opened up
 to Terminal Server users accessing the system/database.

 Does anyone have any recommendations?


 TIA.


 
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Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/39825?netht=rn_031809nladname=031809

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
And for managed environments the other options are what exactly?

Firefox is not an option in many managed environments due to the lack of
any sort of central configuration management.

Yes, I'm aware of the Frontmotion stuff, but they do several things wrong:
a) they bundle third plugins (flash, shockwave, etc) in their install
package
b) the group policy add-ins are incomplete at best. They're incomplete
for a reason; there are many, many config options that, when set through
group policy, are ignored. I'm specifically speaking of proxy settings here.

Vue, Za wrote:
 Another pointless MS browsers. Already annoyed the heck out of people.
 HTF do you get rid of the annoying “You have disabled Add-on” message on
 top when there is no disabled add-on? MS needs to dig itself out of the
 ActiveX hole it dug and partner with Mozilla or Mac and incorporate
 their browsers into Windows 7. Until then don’t wake us up.

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the top
 dog to work with or use..

  Okay, I'll bite... :)  It's been a long week; this will be refreshing... :)

  I like Firefox better.  It's faster and more flexible.  Firefox
tends to work they way I want.  I can make it do what I want more
easily.  There are more useful extensions for Firefox

  Firefox works on all my computers, not just XP and Vista.  Yes, we
still have Win 2000 in production at work.  I've got Linux at home and
on my laptop.  Firefox runs everywhere..

  Extensions to MSIE, like IE7Pro, let IE catch up to Firefox in many
ways, but Firefox has been doing more of what I want out of the box
for years and years, when MSFT was still leaving us languishing with
MSIE 6.  Why should I go through the pain and effort of switching back
now?

  The development community responds better and faster than Microsoft.
 See above.

  In practice, I think Firefox is more secure than MSIE.  Web
developers wanting to target MSIE are encouraged to use ActiveX, and
downloading native machine code over the Internet into a browser is
horrible idea and always was.  NoScript blocks even JavaScript-based
attacks.  Permit Cookies lets me manage cookie permission easily.

  The fact that some sites *still* don't work right with anything but
MSIE 6, and the fact that Microsoft *still( makes it unreasonably hard
to run multiple versions of their browser, means that I can't even
really try seriously newer releases.  With Firefox, I can simply
install to a different directory.  It takes all of five seconds.

  I have zero issues using IE7 ...
 Zero.. EXCEPT ...

  That word you keep using.  I do not think it means what you think
it means.  :)

 as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
 minutes ...

  Another thing I like about Firefox is that, since it hasn't been
shoved into the OS core in an attempt to stifle competition (see
Findings of Fact, US v. MSFT, 5 Nov 1999), I can easily shutdown,
kill, and/or upgrade the browser without having to reboot my *entire
computer*.

-- Ben

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Despicable?  Wow...  I cant imagine how you came to that comclusion.

;-)

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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Rob Bonfiglio robbonfig...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm sure he meant:  despicable...honest mistake after a long day at work.

  On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Leif Wahlberg lef...@gmail.com wrote:

   dispiclable  ???



 My dictionary is not smart enough for this.



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 they can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 rather
 dispiclable!
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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote:
 And for managed environments the other options are what exactly?

  You can have Firefox read additional config files from a network
location.  You can force it to do so.  You can force config options in
a config file, or just let them be defaults.

  It's not integrated with Group Policy, 'tis true, but on the other
hand, this method works even if you've got a multi-platform
environment.  You can standard on one browser, with the same set of
managed corporate config files, for Windows, Mac, and Linux.

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Despicable?  Wow...  I cant imagine how you came to that comclusion.

  Sufferin' succotash!  ;-)

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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread David Lum
In practice, I think Firefox is more secure than MSIE.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10190206-83.html

It's patched faster, which might validate the in practice part of that 
statement.

How do you manage patching Firefox in the enterprise?

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NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
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-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the top
 dog to work with or use..

  Okay, I'll bite... :)  It's been a long week; this will be refreshing... :)

  I like Firefox better.  It's faster and more flexible.  Firefox
tends to work they way I want.  I can make it do what I want more
easily.  There are more useful extensions for Firefox

  Firefox works on all my computers, not just XP and Vista.  Yes, we
still have Win 2000 in production at work.  I've got Linux at home and
on my laptop.  Firefox runs everywhere..

  Extensions to MSIE, like IE7Pro, let IE catch up to Firefox in many
ways, but Firefox has been doing more of what I want out of the box
for years and years, when MSFT was still leaving us languishing with
MSIE 6.  Why should I go through the pain and effort of switching back
now?

  The development community responds better and faster than Microsoft.
 See above.

  In practice, I think Firefox is more secure than MSIE.  Web
developers wanting to target MSIE are encouraged to use ActiveX, and
downloading native machine code over the Internet into a browser is
horrible idea and always was.  NoScript blocks even JavaScript-based
attacks.  Permit Cookies lets me manage cookie permission easily.

  The fact that some sites *still* don't work right with anything but
MSIE 6, and the fact that Microsoft *still( makes it unreasonably hard
to run multiple versions of their browser, means that I can't even
really try seriously newer releases.  With Firefox, I can simply
install to a different directory.  It takes all of five seconds.

  I have zero issues using IE7 ...
 Zero.. EXCEPT ...

  That word you keep using.  I do not think it means what you think
it means.  :)

 as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
 minutes ...

  Another thing I like about Firefox is that, since it hasn't been
shoved into the OS core in an attempt to stifle competition (see
Findings of Fact, US v. MSFT, 5 Nov 1999), I can easily shutdown,
kill, and/or upgrade the browser without having to reboot my *entire
computer*.

-- Ben

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Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/39825?netht=rn_031809nladname=031809

  Details are rather sketchy, but it does sound ominous.

  This caught my eye:

  ... privilege escalation from Ring 0 to the SMM ...

  Sounds like yet another reason to run as an regular user, not with
administrator rights.  (Ring 0 being supervisor mode on i386; Ring 3
is user mode, IIRC.)

-- Ben

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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread David Lum
I don't have an answer for you - I have only two 2008 Server deployed - but the 
speed between the Vista -- -- 2008 Server should be significantly faster than 
XP - 2008.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
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From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 5:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

I have loaded a server with 2008 STD 32bit with file services and it seems that 
the xp/2003 machines have slow performance connecting or reading drives.
I have checked the taskmgr and cpu is low 1-10% and memory low (4gb installed 
and 700mg - 950 mg used).
Virus protection loaded (Symantec in a non-cache mode).
A few of the domain admins have vista but we have no problems, so I don't know 
if it is because we a admins or because we have vista.
I do have an xp machine next to me that doesn't experience problems, but I only 
use it to run other admin tools that don't run on vista (phone system etc.)

Anyone have an idea what might be wrong?  Or is 2008 as big a P.I.T.A. as vista 
is?

Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
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RE: New server

2009-03-19 Thread gsweers
If you can set the speed/duplex on the switch and the server then do it.


 

If they are Broadcom nics make sure you disable the SNP, either by
running, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950224

 

Or by going to cmd prompt and running, Netsh int ip set chimney DISABLED

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: New server

 



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Greetings

 

I have set up a new server at a clients. An HP ML150G5 with Windows 2003
SBS with SQL 2005 Express

We used to have Windows 2000 server with MSDE

 

A job running from a workstation updating transactions on the SQL server
is now running slower on the workstation. It processes 5-7 records then
stops for a scond or 2 before continuing.

 

If the same job is run on the server it runs smoothly. So I am thinking
network. 

 

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:53 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
 Good point, unlikely if affects all browsers but depending on how that
 security is implemented under the hood ...

  I know Firefox 3.x introduced a feature where it honors certain
settings from the MSIE Internet Options control panel, including the
Allow file downloads setting.  Not everybody was thrilled with this;
I think the plan was to create an about:config setting to cause
Firefox to go back to ignoring MSIE settings.

  I think I *might* have read in the bug report that Opera also honors
these settings, but that might be a bogus memory on my part.  (I gotta
get myself an ECC brain.)

-- Ben

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
I make my own MSI installers.

I don't like the Frontmotion stuff due to the bundling of third party
plugins.

David Lum wrote:
 How do you manage patching Firefox in the enterprise?

-- 

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p...@optimumdata.com

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
Ben Scott wrote:
   You can have Firefox read additional config files from a network
 location.  You can force it to do so.  You can force config options in
 a config file, or just let them be defaults.

Except that makes the Firefox config all or nothing, and opposite of
what management has mandated I need to do (students get a web proxy for
content filtering that they can't turn off, staff and faculty do not).

-- 

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p...@optimumdata.com

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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread David Lum
ECC brain, I haven't heard that one before.+1!!

-Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:53 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
 Good point, unlikely if affects all browsers but depending on how that
 security is implemented under the hood ...

  I know Firefox 3.x introduced a feature where it honors certain
settings from the MSIE Internet Options control panel, including the
Allow file downloads setting.  Not everybody was thrilled with this;
I think the plan was to create an about:config setting to cause
Firefox to go back to ignoring MSIE settings.

  I think I *might* have read in the bug report that Opera also honors
these settings, but that might be a bogus memory on my part.  (I gotta
get myself an ECC brain.)

-- Ben

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RE: SMS Messaging

2009-03-19 Thread Simon Butler
Years ago I did it with a old Nokia phone plugged in to a charger, connected to 
an old laptop running a Psion Gold card and a third party tool. Things have 
moved on since then. 

You can get text machines, which is what most of the radio stations will be 
using. These are basically a form of mobile phone with a SIM inside them. 
However that will not give you the best rates because you will be using the 
mobile phone network's service and are best suited to inbound texts.

Your best option is to look at SMS gateway APIs and run it over the internet. 
Tons of those around. Google SMS Gateway with the UK switch turned on and every 
link including the adverts will take you to something suitable. It all depends 
on what you can do with the service. Some offer Outlook plugins, or an Exchange 
plugin, as well as dedicated applications. 

It is one area where Europe leads the USA in software development, most of the 
good stuff is coming out of the UK and Germany. 

Simon. 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Jackson [mailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk] 
Sent: 19 March 2009 14:48
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMS Messaging

Hi Simon,

Many thanks. All SMS messages will be to UK numbers and as you have 
suggested, I've seen the average price to be about 4 to 4.5p per
message.

Can you provide details of the hardware/software options you talk about
or
point me in the general direction thereof?

TIA,
Robert.

-Original Message-
From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@amset.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday March 2009 14:36
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SMS Messaging

Has your client looked at the costs of doing this?
I have been asked before to do it and every time it has been dropped
because of the costs. 
Here in the UK there are no free options, and unless you limit it
heavily, the staff will abuse it. 
You will need to sign up with one of the bulk suppliers, but you will be
looking at between 2.5 and 7p a message, depending on the volume. On
bulk messaging 10,000 messages is not a lot, add another two zeros to
get the best rates. At 10,000 pcm expect to pay around 4 or 5p a message
- UK numbers only. Double it for international in most cases. 

As for how to do it, there are two ways. Hardware, where you have a SIM
on a device connected to your network and software, where the message is
sent to a service provider, usually using an API. 

The market is very competitive so have a good look round. If you can do
it with hardware and your own systems then you can move between
providers easily. 

Simon. 


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-Original Message-
From: Robert Jackson [mailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk] 
Sent: 19 March 2009 13:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SMS Messaging

We've had a requirement from one of our customers to provide a facility
for SMS text messaging.

Does anyone have a feeling as to whether we should do this ourselves by
getting one or more SMS modems or using one of the many SMS services
out there?

Our application (to a backend database) has 2 methods of access:-
a web interface used by call centres and various levels of stakeholders
or a
Terminal Services logon to access the client runtime (this method allows
more
functionality than the web interface).

We're talking about sending/receiving roughly 10,000 SMS texts/month.
Texts
will be sent mainly from our web interface, but this facility could be
opened up
to Terminal Server users accessing the system/database.

Does anyone have any recommendations?


TIA.



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Re: SMS Messaging

2009-03-19 Thread Steve Ens
Even in South Africa, all the contests were run on SMSing.  Basically
nothing here iN Canada.  (not that the kids here don't text...they do like
crazy) But the companies haven't harnessed that power of texting.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Simon Butler si...@amset.co.uk wrote:

 Years ago I did it with a old Nokia phone plugged in to a charger,
 connected to an old laptop running a Psion Gold card and a third party tool.
 Things have moved on since then.

 You can get text machines, which is what most of the radio stations will be
 using. These are basically a form of mobile phone with a SIM inside them.
 However that will not give you the best rates because you will be using the
 mobile phone network's service and are best suited to inbound texts.

 Your best option is to look at SMS gateway APIs and run it over the
 internet. Tons of those around. Google SMS Gateway with the UK switch turned
 on and every link including the adverts will take you to something suitable.
 It all depends on what you can do with the service. Some offer Outlook
 plugins, or an Exchange plugin, as well as dedicated applications.

 It is one area where Europe leads the USA in software development, most of
 the good stuff is coming out of the UK and Germany.

 Simon.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Jackson [mailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk]
 Sent: 19 March 2009 14:48
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: SMS Messaging

 Hi Simon,

 Many thanks. All SMS messages will be to UK numbers and as you have
 suggested, I've seen the average price to be about 4 to 4.5p per
 message.

 Can you provide details of the hardware/software options you talk about
 or
 point me in the general direction thereof?

 TIA,
 Robert.

 -Original Message-
 From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@amset.co.uk]
 Sent: Thursday March 2009 14:36
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: SMS Messaging

 Has your client looked at the costs of doing this?
 I have been asked before to do it and every time it has been dropped
 because of the costs.
 Here in the UK there are no free options, and unless you limit it
 heavily, the staff will abuse it.
 You will need to sign up with one of the bulk suppliers, but you will be
 looking at between 2.5 and 7p a message, depending on the volume. On
 bulk messaging 10,000 messages is not a lot, add another two zeros to
 get the best rates. At 10,000 pcm expect to pay around 4 or 5p a message
 - UK numbers only. Double it for international in most cases.

 As for how to do it, there are two ways. Hardware, where you have a SIM
 on a device connected to your network and software, where the message is
 sent to a service provider, usually using an API.

 The market is very competitive so have a good look round. If you can do
 it with hardware and your own systems then you can move between
 providers easily.

 Simon.


 --
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 MVP: Exchange, MCSE
 Amset IT Solutions Ltd.

 e: si...@amset.co.uk
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 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Jackson [mailto:r...@walkermartyn.co.uk]
 Sent: 19 March 2009 13:29
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: SMS Messaging

 We've had a requirement from one of our customers to provide a facility
 for SMS text messaging.

 Does anyone have a feeling as to whether we should do this ourselves by
 getting one or more SMS modems or using one of the many SMS services
 out there?

 Our application (to a backend database) has 2 methods of access:-
 a web interface used by call centres and various levels of stakeholders
 or a
 Terminal Services logon to access the client runtime (this method allows
 more
 functionality than the web interface).

 We're talking about sending/receiving roughly 10,000 SMS texts/month.
 Texts
 will be sent mainly from our web interface, but this facility could be
 opened up
 to Terminal Server users accessing the system/database.

 Does anyone have any recommendations?


 TIA.


 
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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote:
 Except that makes the Firefox config all or nothing, and opposite of
 what management has mandated I need to do (students get a web proxy for
 content filtering that they can't turn off, staff and faculty do not).

  Firefox config files are just JavaScript, and you're allowed to pull
environment variables from the OS.  I think you can put simple logic
in the config file to determine things like that.  Haven't done this
myself.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Ross
All good points.. really.
However.. I disagree  that it IS more secure..
For example.. a recent issue...
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2934


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the
top
 dog to work with or use..

  Okay, I'll bite... :)  It's been a long week; this will be refreshing...
:)

  I like Firefox better.  It's faster and more flexible.  Firefox
tends to work they way I want.  I can make it do what I want more
easily.  There are more useful extensions for Firefox

  Firefox works on all my computers, not just XP and Vista.  Yes, we
still have Win 2000 in production at work.  I've got Linux at home and
on my laptop.  Firefox runs everywhere..

  Extensions to MSIE, like IE7Pro, let IE catch up to Firefox in many
ways, but Firefox has been doing more of what I want out of the box
for years and years, when MSFT was still leaving us languishing with
MSIE 6.  Why should I go through the pain and effort of switching back
now?

  The development community responds better and faster than Microsoft.
 See above.

  In practice, I think Firefox is more secure than MSIE.  Web
developers wanting to target MSIE are encouraged to use ActiveX, and
downloading native machine code over the Internet into a browser is
horrible idea and always was.  NoScript blocks even JavaScript-based
attacks.  Permit Cookies lets me manage cookie permission easily.

  The fact that some sites *still* don't work right with anything but
MSIE 6, and the fact that Microsoft *still( makes it unreasonably hard
to run multiple versions of their browser, means that I can't even
really try seriously newer releases.  With Firefox, I can simply
install to a different directory.  It takes all of five seconds.

  I have zero issues using IE7 ...
 Zero.. EXCEPT ...

  That word you keep using.  I do not think it means what you think
it means.  :)

 as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
 minutes ...

  Another thing I like about Firefox is that, since it hasn't been
shoved into the OS core in an attempt to stifle competition (see
Findings of Fact, US v. MSFT, 5 Nov 1999), I can easily shutdown,
kill, and/or upgrade the browser without having to reboot my *entire
computer*.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



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RE: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread John Hornbuckle
The article said this exploit is OS-independent, though, if I read it right. So 
regular user vs. admin wouldn't make a difference.

Or am I totally confused?



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us





-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be 
posted 3/19/09

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/39825?netht=rn_031809nladname=031809

  Details are rather sketchy, but it does sound ominous.

  This caught my eye:

  ... privilege escalation from Ring 0 to the SMM ...

  Sounds like yet another reason to run as an regular user, not with
administrator rights.  (Ring 0 being supervisor mode on i386; Ring 3
is user mode, IIRC.)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
That's how I interpreted it as well, but I dont know anything about SMM.

--
ME2


On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:31 PM, John Hornbuckle 
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

 The article said this exploit is OS-independent, though, if I read it
 right. So regular user vs. admin wouldn't make a difference.

 Or am I totally confused?



 John Hornbuckle
 MIS Department
 Taylor County School District
 318 North Clark Street
 Perry, FL 32347

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us





 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:17 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to
 be posted 3/19/09

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/39825?netht=rn_031809nladname=031809

  Details are rather sketchy, but it does sound ominous.

  This caught my eye:

  ... privilege escalation from Ring 0 to the SMM ...

  Sounds like yet another reason to run as an regular user, not with
 administrator rights.  (Ring 0 being supervisor mode on i386; Ring 3
 is user mode, IIRC.)

 -- Ben

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Ross
Nope.. never had that issue.

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today

 


Hope you never get this issue... 

No browser is allowed to download anything - even if you are running as a
domain admin.  As PDF files need to be downloaded and then opened by the
add-in, this means they cannot be read.  It also hoses MS Update as those
are files downloaded and installed. 

It does not matter what browser you are using.  All (IE7, FF, Chrome, and
Opera) will give an error box stating that the security settings forbid
downloading from that site (even your own internal web servers). 

So far, the only fix we've found is to get a copy of the IE7 installer on
portable media and to re-install it on the afflicted machine.  (One can
install it from a network share, provided no browser is used to access the
share.)
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
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Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote on 03/19/2009 09:08:11 AM:

 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is 
 the top dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with
 IE7pro installed and configured. 
 Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get
 the sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its 
 running on and not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I 
 just reboot and in 1.5 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a 
 pepsi.. im back up and no more memory problems. 
   
   
 From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:17 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today 
   
 Another pointless MS browsers. Already annoyed the heck out of 
 people. HTF do you get rid of the annoying You have disabled Add-
 on message on top when there is no disabled add-on? MS needs to dig
 itself out of the ActiveX hole it dug and partner with Mozilla or 
 Mac and incorporate their browsers into Windows 7. Until then don't 
 wake us up. 
   
 -Z.V. 
 From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:00 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: IE 8 today 
   
 
 The question is, will one have to jump through a bunch of hoops 
 before they can browse to their first page?  That alone made IE7 
 rather dispiclable!
 -- 
 Richard D. McClary 
 Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
   
 ASPCAR 
 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
 Urbana, IL  61802 
   
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  FYI 
  http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2318 


  


   
   
   
 
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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread RichardMcClary
OK, conference call with New Yorkers is over, so in my dying moments I'll 
toss in a couple of comments...

1. Lots of time, energy, bandwidth, etc have been spent concerning IE vx 
FF as regards to which is more secure.  Currently, I believe the consensus 
is that Safari is the worst.

2. I agree with another post, that is, right - a domain admin should not 
be downloading stuff.
--
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Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
ASPCA®
 

Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote on 03/19/2009 11:26:34 AM:

 All good points.. really.
 However.. I disagree  that it IS more secure..
 For example.. a recent issue...
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2934
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: IE 8 today
 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
  I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is 
the
 top
  dog to work with or use..
 
   Okay, I'll bite... :)  It's been a long week; this will be 
refreshing...
 :)
 
   I like Firefox better.  It's faster and more flexible.  Firefox
 tends to work they way I want.  I can make it do what I want more
 easily.  There are more useful extensions for Firefox
 
   Firefox works on all my computers, not just XP and Vista.  Yes, we
 still have Win 2000 in production at work.  I've got Linux at home and
 on my laptop.  Firefox runs everywhere..
 
   Extensions to MSIE, like IE7Pro, let IE catch up to Firefox in many
 ways, but Firefox has been doing more of what I want out of the box
 for years and years, when MSFT was still leaving us languishing with
 MSIE 6.  Why should I go through the pain and effort of switching back
 now?
 
   The development community responds better and faster than Microsoft.
  See above.
 
   In practice, I think Firefox is more secure than MSIE.  Web
 developers wanting to target MSIE are encouraged to use ActiveX, and
 downloading native machine code over the Internet into a browser is
 horrible idea and always was.  NoScript blocks even JavaScript-based
 attacks.  Permit Cookies lets me manage cookie permission easily.
 
   The fact that some sites *still* don't work right with anything but
 MSIE 6, and the fact that Microsoft *still( makes it unreasonably hard
 to run multiple versions of their browser, means that I can't even
 really try seriously newer releases.  With Firefox, I can simply
 install to a different directory.  It takes all of five seconds.
 
   I have zero issues using IE7 ...
  Zero.. EXCEPT ...
 
   That word you keep using.  I do not think it means what you think
 it means.  :)
 
  as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
  minutes ...
 
   Another thing I like about Firefox is that, since it hasn't been
 shoved into the OS core in an attempt to stifle competition (see
 Findings of Fact, US v. MSFT, 5 Nov 1999), I can easily shutdown,
 kill, and/or upgrade the browser without having to reboot my *entire
 computer*.
 
 -- Ben
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
I became a fan and user of Firefox years ago when it was the only browser to
offer tabbed browsing.  Just because IE now offers that, I still see no
reason to switch back.  Ironically, at my work, we still haven't implemented
IE7 because of two enterprise applications that have not been certified on
IE7 by the software companies for use with there web based interfaces.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:

 All good points.. really.
 However.. I disagree  that it IS more secure..
 For example.. a recent issue...
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2934


 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:10 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
  I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the
 top
  dog to work with or use..

   Okay, I'll bite... :)  It's been a long week; this will be refreshing...
 :)

  I like Firefox better.  It's faster and more flexible.  Firefox
 tends to work they way I want.  I can make it do what I want more
 easily.  There are more useful extensions for Firefox

  Firefox works on all my computers, not just XP and Vista.  Yes, we
 still have Win 2000 in production at work.  I've got Linux at home and
 on my laptop.  Firefox runs everywhere..

  Extensions to MSIE, like IE7Pro, let IE catch up to Firefox in many
 ways, but Firefox has been doing more of what I want out of the box
 for years and years, when MSFT was still leaving us languishing with
 MSIE 6.  Why should I go through the pain and effort of switching back
 now?

  The development community responds better and faster than Microsoft.
  See above.

  In practice, I think Firefox is more secure than MSIE.  Web
 developers wanting to target MSIE are encouraged to use ActiveX, and
 downloading native machine code over the Internet into a browser is
 horrible idea and always was.  NoScript blocks even JavaScript-based
 attacks.  Permit Cookies lets me manage cookie permission easily.

  The fact that some sites *still* don't work right with anything but
 MSIE 6, and the fact that Microsoft *still( makes it unreasonably hard
 to run multiple versions of their browser, means that I can't even
 really try seriously newer releases.  With Firefox, I can simply
 install to a different directory.  It takes all of five seconds.

   I have zero issues using IE7 ...
  Zero.. EXCEPT ...

  That word you keep using.  I do not think it means what you think
 it means.  :)

  as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
  minutes ...

  Another thing I like about Firefox is that, since it hasn't been
 shoved into the OS core in an attempt to stifle competition (see
 Findings of Fact, US v. MSFT, 5 Nov 1999), I can easily shutdown,
 kill, and/or upgrade the browser without having to reboot my *entire
 computer*.

 -- Ben

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

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RE: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas Gonzalez
The article stated the security people find them and notify intel, but
if intel doesn't act, then they (security people) notify the public.
Now, here's my question, if there is a vulnerability as stated, how do
you or should I say does intel go about resolving the issue? Do they fix
it at the plant then send out a ridiculous amount of chips? 

 

As you said Michael, what is a SMM?! This is a whole new arena and I
don't think I was even provide a preview ticket J

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw
to be posted 3/19/09

 

That's how I interpreted it as well, but I dont know anything about SMM.

--
ME2



On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:31 PM, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:

The article said this exploit is OS-independent, though, if I read it
right. So regular user vs. admin wouldn't make a difference.

Or am I totally confused?



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ 






-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw
to be posted 3/19/09

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/39825?netht=rn_031809nladnam
e=031809

 Details are rather sketchy, but it does sound ominous.

 This caught my eye:

 ... privilege escalation from Ring 0 to the SMM ...

 Sounds like yet another reason to run as an regular user, not with
administrator rights.  (Ring 0 being supervisor mode on i386; Ring 3
is user mode, IIRC.)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Sam Cayze
And their updates are always very late... 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

And for managed environments the other options are what exactly?

Firefox is not an option in many managed environments due to the lack of
any sort of central configuration management.

Yes, I'm aware of the Frontmotion stuff, but they do several things
wrong:
a) they bundle third plugins (flash, shockwave, etc) in their install
package
b) the group policy add-ins are incomplete at best. They're incomplete
for a reason; there are many, many config options that, when set through
group policy, are ignored. I'm specifically speaking of proxy settings
here.

Vue, Za wrote:
 Another pointless MS browsers. Already annoyed the heck out of people.
 HTF do you get rid of the annoying You have disabled Add-on message 
 on top when there is no disabled add-on? MS needs to dig itself out of

 the ActiveX hole it dug and partner with Mozilla or Mac and 
 incorporate their browsers into Windows 7. Until then don't wake us
up.

-- 

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p...@optimumdata.com

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http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Mike Gill
I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.

 

Think about that for a second.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today

 

I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the top
dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
installed and configured.

Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on and
not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
memory problems.

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
Ben Scott wrote:
   Firefox config files are just JavaScript, and you're allowed to pull
 environment variables from the OS.  I think you can put simple logic
 in the config file to determine things like that.  Haven't done this
 myself.

It's not the logic that's the problem, it's:

 a) I have to learn enough JS to do it
 b) I need to have the JS query a database of some kind to figure out
what class the user is, therefore I need to learn whatever JS API
Firefox has available for such things - if it exists - and hope it's
sufficiently documented
 c) That I even need to go through that much trouble to begin with.
We're talking about a management scheme that hasn't changed since
Netscape 4. This isn't 1995 and these are't single-user Windows 95 machines!

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 However.. I disagree  that it IS more secure..

  When I say more secure in practice, I mean just that, not that
Firefox is immune to vulnerabilities.  Every major browser (and some
minor ones) have had vulnerabilities.  I just think Firefox is more
secure out of the box, and easier to make still more secure.

  For example, since Firefox 1.x, I've long set all the options that
prevent JavaScript from controlling window size, position, UI trim,
etc.  This means browser windows always look like browser windows,
with scroll bars and status bars.  They can't pretend to be OS
windows.  It also means JavaScript can't take over my right-click
content menu.  It's my computer, not the web author's.

  More recently, NoScript makes it even easier to prevent JavaScript
from taking over my computer.  I've seem the equivalent of a
JavaScript fork bomb -- it just opened endless new windows.  Disguised
as a benign link in a web forum prank, this caused the entire Windows
Explorer shell to crash with MSIE 6 for some people.  In Firefox, it
just showed me an empty page, and I wasn't about to blindly enable
JavaScript at that point.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
Ever since the PIII Intel has included a microcode update mechanism.

Not all processor errata are fixable though, and the microcode update
needs to be applied on every boot.

Microsoft has use it in the past to fix CPU specific reliability problems:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936357

Thomas Gonzalez wrote:
 Do they fix it at the plant then send out a ridiculous amount of chips?

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
Apparently at least one of these SMM rootkits has been around since May of last 
year:

Hackers Find a New Place to Hide Rootkits
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/145703/hackers_find_a_new_pl
ace_t o_hide_rootkits.html 
or here if the above wraps unusably:  
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4vfsce

Scary stuff, since (a) it's at the hardware level; (b) it has been discussed 
publically by Intel in employee papers; (c) a PoC rootkit has been out for 
almost a year.

Since it's at the hardware level, even booting off a cleanup CD won't be able 
to find it ...

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread John Cook
I have to disagree with the second sentence:-)

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
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-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote:
  a) I have to learn enough JS to do it

  Well, I've already had to do that to do things like configure our
proxy auto-configure script, which MSIE uses as well.

  b) I need to have the JS query a database of some kind ...

  I know I've seen mention of LDAP.  More simply, you could just look
at an environment variable.  For example:

var foo = getenv(GROUP);
if (foo == students) {
lockPref (proxy.http, whatever.example.com);
} else {
...
}

 ... hope it's sufficiently documented

  Yah.  I won't disagree that this stuff isn't as well documented as
it could be.  A lot of stuff is scattered about blogs and web forums
and archives of lists like this one.

  c) That I even need to go through that much trouble to begin with.

  Well, it has to be done *somehow*.  Group Policy didn't magically do
anything for my network; I had to go through the trouble of learning,
planning, configuring, documenting, and managing it.  In particular,
management of Group Policy is kind of a heavyweight problem.  With
plain old text files, I can use comments in the files, stick the files
in RCS, and be done.  So there's advantages and disadvantages to both
approaches.

-- Ben

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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-19 Thread Mike Gill
2WireXXX is the default name a vendor uses for its AP's, I can't remember
what one. It's no different than seeing Linksys. The owners of the house
aren't the ones to be worries about. It's their kids. You can't assume they
are idiots. My wife's nephew is just going into college, and a few months
ago I doubt he would know how to install Windows on his laptop. A couple
weeks ago he mentions how he and his friends use Ubuntu now and get kicks
out of looking for WEP networks to crack. I'm not saying he's suddenly a
genius. I still doubt that he would be able to correctly install Windows and
all the drivers on a modern laptop, but he knows how to install Ubuntu and
the tools he needs to crack wireless networks where security was weak, and
he knows how to do it well enough that people should care.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 

I'm well aware that someone with, as I said,  wifi knowledge could see my
router even with the radio broadcast turned off. But I get the distinct
feeling that none of my neighbors has that kind of knowledge. I base that on
the 2 neighbors who are using their family names, and the 4 neighbors who
have 2wire as their network names, not to mention the poor idiot who  is
using the default settings that come up when you turn the router on the very
first time.

 

Murray 

 

 

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Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
Are you suggesting that such a thing could survive a cold boot?

The rootkit has to be stored somewhere it can execute from, and I don't
think it'll have much success storing itself in the BIOS.

Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
 Since it's at the hardware level, even booting off a cleanup CD won't be able 
 to find it ...

-- 

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p...@optimumdata.com

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Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
Ben Scott wrote:
   Sounds like yet another reason to run as an regular user, not with
 administrator rights.  (Ring 0 being supervisor mode on i386; Ring 3
 is user mode, IIRC.)

In this case ring 0 is the kernel. All user level processes - regardless
of whether the user is root or Administrator or john.smith - run in ring
3. From the CPU perspective administrative vs non-administrative
processes are indistinguishable as they are an OS-specific construct.

Based on the 4th paragraph in the article, it looks like it would
primarily afflict CPUs that have hardware virtualization support (and
said support turned on). One hypothetical exploit would be to bypass the
hypervisor of, say, ESX and break out of the guest OS and take over the
physical machine.

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

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IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Bill Lambert
Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no
joy.

 

Bill Lambert

Windows System Administrator

Concuity

A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.  

Phone  847-941-9206

Fax  847-465-9147

 

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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Ross
Think aboot what? Its no different than saying firefox is fast with FastFox
installed

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today

 

I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.

 

Think about that for a second.

 

-- 
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From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today

 

I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the top
dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
installed and configured.

Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on and
not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
memory problems.

 

 

 

 

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RE: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Both the boss and I got it with no problems just a few minutes ago. Don't 
worry, it will be a critical security update on WSUS any second now I would 
assume.



From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IE8 Download...

Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no joy.

Bill Lambert
Windows System Administrator
Concuity
A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.
Phone  847-941-9206
Fax  847-465-9147
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Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote:
 In this case ring 0 is the kernel. All user level processes - regardless
 of whether the user is root or Administrator or john.smith - run in ring
 3.

  Right, but administrators can do things like inject kernel code.  Users can't.

-- Ben

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RE: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09

2009-03-19 Thread John Cook
Can you say Blue Pill???

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Rut roh Raggy: Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be 
posted 3/19/09

Ben Scott wrote:
   Sounds like yet another reason to run as an regular user, not with
 administrator rights.  (Ring 0 being supervisor mode on i386; Ring 3
 is user mode, IIRC.)

In this case ring 0 is the kernel. All user level processes - regardless
of whether the user is root or Administrator or john.smith - run in ring
3. From the CPU perspective administrative vs non-administrative
processes are indistinguishable as they are an OS-specific construct.

Based on the 4th paragraph in the article, it looks like it would
primarily afflict CPUs that have hardware virtualization support (and
said support turned on). One hypothetical exploit would be to bypass the
hypervisor of, say, ESX and break out of the guest OS and take over the
physical machine.

--

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

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Re: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
angu...@geoapps.com wrote:
 T24gMTkgTWFyIDIwMDkgYXQ ...

  Aw jeez, not this shit again.

http://www.afunnystuff.com/pictures/Forum-pics/Aw-jeez-not-this-shit-again.html

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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 19 Mar 2009 at 13:24, John Cook  wrote:

 I have to disagree with the second sentence:-)

@#...@#$%@#$% Lyris at Sunbelt, went through this a few weeks ago ...



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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Brian Desmond
So can you elaborate on what slow performance means? When, where, what, etc...

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

I have loaded a server with 2008 STD 32bit with file services and it seems that 
the xp/2003 machines have slow performance connecting or reading drives.
I have checked the taskmgr and cpu is low 1-10% and memory low (4gb installed 
and 700mg - 950 mg used).
Virus protection loaded (Symantec in a non-cache mode).
A few of the domain admins have vista but we have no problems, so I don't know 
if it is because we a admins or because we have vista.
I do have an xp machine next to me that doesn't experience problems, but I only 
use it to run other admin tools that don't run on vista (phone system etc.)

Anyone have an idea what might be wrong?  Or is 2008 as big a P.I.T.A. as vista 
is?

Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736


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RE: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Roger Wright
Yep... installing now.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IE8 Download...

 

Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no
joy.

 

Bill Lambert

Windows System Administrator

Concuity

A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.  

Phone  847-941-9206

Fax  847-465-9147

 

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Re: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote:
 Am I the only one who thinks Sunbelt should consider an alternative?

Everybody else: NO!

:)

-- B

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Re: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am I the only one who thinks Sunbelt should consider an alternative?

 Everybody else: NO!

  In case that wasn't clear: No, you're not the only one who thinks that.

  I really don't get why anyone uses Lyris for lists.  The web UI is
cumbersome, it's list archiving sucks, it's mail-based commands are
primiative, it causes no end of weird problems with list mail, it
can't seem to put footers with unsubscribe tips, and it hijacks
messages with common keywords (which is ironic, given that it never
seems to be able to intercept the *actual* Please unsubscribe me
messages.)

-- Ben

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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Brumbaugh, Luke
Most people have psts on their home drives on the fileserver, (please don't 
blame me I hate PSTs), the XP machines will slow down to a crawl.
Word docs, etc won't save, drives are disconnected and machines will freeze.
Vista however still running.
I'll have to reboot the server to cure the problem.
Everyone is OK then something happens(Unknown) and it all happens again.
This is the 3rd time it has happened.


From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

So can you elaborate on what slow performance means? When, where, what, etc...

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

I have loaded a server with 2008 STD 32bit with file services and it seems that 
the xp/2003 machines have slow performance connecting or reading drives.
I have checked the taskmgr and cpu is low 1-10% and memory low (4gb installed 
and 700mg - 950 mg used).
Virus protection loaded (Symantec in a non-cache mode).
A few of the domain admins have vista but we have no problems, so I don't know 
if it is because we a admins or because we have vista.
I do have an xp machine next to me that doesn't experience problems, but I only 
use it to run other admin tools that don't run on vista (phone system etc.)

Anyone have an idea what might be wrong?  Or is 2008 as big a P.I.T.A. as vista 
is?

Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736


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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Brumbaugh, Luke
I have done some googling, and have removed Symantec all together, and turned 
off power savings on the nic.
I hate doing 2 things at once, but this is a main fileserver.


From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

Most people have psts on their home drives on the fileserver, (please don't 
blame me I hate PSTs), the XP machines will slow down to a crawl.
Word docs, etc won't save, drives are disconnected and machines will freeze.
Vista however still running.
I'll have to reboot the server to cure the problem.
Everyone is OK then something happens(Unknown) and it all happens again.
This is the 3rd time it has happened.


From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

So can you elaborate on what slow performance means? When, where, what, etc...

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

I have loaded a server with 2008 STD 32bit with file services and it seems that 
the xp/2003 machines have slow performance connecting or reading drives.
I have checked the taskmgr and cpu is low 1-10% and memory low (4gb installed 
and 700mg - 950 mg used).
Virus protection loaded (Symantec in a non-cache mode).
A few of the domain admins have vista but we have no problems, so I don't know 
if it is because we a admins or because we have vista.
I do have an xp machine next to me that doesn't experience problems, but I only 
use it to run other admin tools that don't run on vista (phone system etc.)

Anyone have an idea what might be wrong?  Or is 2008 as big a P.I.T.A. as vista 
is?

Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736


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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Steven Peck
What kind of weird sites are you people going to?

I have zero issues with IE7 standard.  I use a combination of FF and
IE7 on a variety of different boxes.  I find on systems I have both
installed, I tend to use IE7 because no matter what the FF folks tell
you, overtime FF eats memory and kills your systems performance.  (oh
yes, they fixed the memory issue this time, for real this time, really
it's not as bad as it used to be, honest).  The FF people sound like
Comcast support personal.

I plan on switching over to IE8 at home as soon as is practical
(whenever the download sites stop blowing up :)

Steven

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 Think aboot what? Its no different than saying “firefox is fast with FastFox
 installed”



 From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 “I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.”



 Think about that for a second.



 --
 Mike Gill



 From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the top
 dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
 installed and configured.

 Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
 sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on and
 not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
 memory problems.













~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Carl Houseman
Nobody but Angus seems to have this problem either.  And he never used to
have it before a few months ago, so something happened, something changed in
his local configuration, it would appear, causing mail to go out as Base64
RTF for the text content.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

Am I the only one who thinks Sunbelt should consider an alternative?

Mailman lists don't have this problem.

Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
 @#...@#$%@#$% Lyris at Sunbelt, went through this a few weeks ago ...

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
Am I the only one who thinks Sunbelt should consider an alternative?

Mailman lists don't have this problem.

Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:
 @#...@#$%@#$% Lyris at Sunbelt, went through this a few weeks ago ...

-- 

Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I can easily reproduce scenarios that make IE7 crash.  IE7 eats waaay more
memory and cant handle it.  I'm running current versions, side-by-side,
aaand I have 30+ extensions loaded into FF (while no add-ons with IE7).

My most recently necessity has been to disabled Flash in IE7 because I can
make it crash repeatedly when logged into Facebook. I can make this happen
at work with XP and at home on Vista.

Since there is very little tab-recovery support in IE7, it is currently at
the bottom of my annoyances bin.  I cant work with it for any information I
need to retain.  It simply cant be trusted.

--
ME2


On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

 What kind of weird sites are you people going to?

 I have zero issues with IE7 standard.  I use a combination of FF and
 IE7 on a variety of different boxes.  I find on systems I have both
 installed, I tend to use IE7 because no matter what the FF folks tell
 you, overtime FF eats memory and kills your systems performance.  (oh
 yes, they fixed the memory issue this time, for real this time, really
 it's not as bad as it used to be, honest).  The FF people sound like
 Comcast support personal.

 I plan on switching over to IE8 at home as soon as is practical
 (whenever the download sites stop blowing up :)

 Steven

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
  Think aboot what? Its no different than saying “firefox is fast with
 FastFox
  installed”
 
 
 
  From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: IE 8 today
 
 
 
  “I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.”
 
 
 
  Think about that for a second.
 
 
 
  --
  Mike Gill
 
 
 
  From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: IE 8 today
 
 
 
  I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the
 top
  dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
  installed and configured.
 
  Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
  sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on
 and
  not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in
 1.5
  minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
  memory problems.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Andy Ognenoff
Do the XP machines work until Outlook is opened?  Some notes from MS about
PSTs on network shares not being supported:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297019

All operations take longer.
Write operations can take approximately four times longer than read
operations.

 - Andy O. 

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

Most people have psts on their home drives on the fileserver, (please don’t
blame me I hate PSTs), the XP machines will slow down to a crawl.
Word docs, etc won’t save, drives are disconnected and machines will
freeze.    Vista however still running.  
I’ll have to reboot the server to cure the problem.
Everyone is OK then something happens(Unknown) and it all happens again.
This is the 3rd time it has happened.  


From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

So can you elaborate on what slow performance means? When, where, what, etc…

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

I have loaded a server with 2008 STD 32bit with file services and it seems
that the xp/2003 machines have slow performance connecting or reading
drives.
I have checked the taskmgr and cpu is low 1-10% and memory low (4gb
installed and 700mg – 950 mg used).
Virus protection loaded (Symantec in a non-cache mode).
A few of the domain admins have vista but we have no problems, so I don’t
know if it is because we a admins or because we have vista.
I do have an xp machine next to me that doesn’t experience problems, but I
only use it to run other admin tools that don’t run on vista (phone system
etc.)

Anyone have an idea what might be wrong?  Or is 2008 as big a P.I.T.A. as
vista is? 

Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
Ph:(614) 659-1736

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RE: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Ross
Im running it.

 

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IE8 Download...

 

Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no joy.

 

Bill Lambert

Windows System Administrator

Concuity

A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.  

Phone  847-941-9206

Fax  847-465-9147



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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Carl Houseman
Can't remember the last time when IE7 just gave up and walked away.  But I
only' have 10-20 tabs open at any given time.  My tab recovery support is
via IE7Pro.

 

Which brings up my next batch of questions, what is the recommended process
for IE7Pro users to move to IE8?   Remove IE7Pro before upgrading?  Is tab
recovery built-in to IE8? 

 

I'll go google those things now... J

 

Carl

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 

I can easily reproduce scenarios that make IE7 crash.  IE7 eats waaay more
memory and cant handle it.  I'm running current versions, side-by-side,
aaand I have 30+ extensions loaded into FF (while no add-ons with IE7).

 

My most recently necessity has been to disabled Flash in IE7 because I can
make it crash repeatedly when logged into Facebook. I can make this happen
at work with XP and at home on Vista.

 

Since there is very little tab-recovery support in IE7, it is currently at
the bottom of my annoyances bin.  I cant work with it for any information I
need to retain.  It simply cant be trusted.

--
ME2



On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

What kind of weird sites are you people going to?

I have zero issues with IE7 standard.  I use a combination of FF and
IE7 on a variety of different boxes.  I find on systems I have both
installed, I tend to use IE7 because no matter what the FF folks tell
you, overtime FF eats memory and kills your systems performance.  (oh
yes, they fixed the memory issue this time, for real this time, really
it's not as bad as it used to be, honest).  The FF people sound like
Comcast support personal.

I plan on switching over to IE8 at home as soon as is practical
(whenever the download sites stop blowing up :)

Steven


On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 Think aboot what? Its no different than saying firefox is fast with
FastFox
 installed



 From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.



 Think about that for a second.



 --
 Mike Gill



 From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the
top
 dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
 installed and configured.

 Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
 sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on
and
 not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in
1.5
 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
 memory problems.













~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Roger Wright
I just did an in place upgrade to IE8 and my IEPro settings came over
okay.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today

 

Can't remember the last time when IE7 just gave up and walked away.  But
I only' have 10-20 tabs open at any given time.  My tab recovery
support is via IE7Pro.

 

Which brings up my next batch of questions, what is the recommended
process for IE7Pro users to move to IE8?   Remove IE7Pro before
upgrading?  Is tab recovery built-in to IE8? 

 

I'll go google those things now... J

 

Carl

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 

I can easily reproduce scenarios that make IE7 crash.  IE7 eats waaay
more memory and cant handle it.  I'm running current versions,
side-by-side, aaand I have 30+ extensions loaded into FF (while no
add-ons with IE7).

 

My most recently necessity has been to disabled Flash in IE7 because I
can make it crash repeatedly when logged into Facebook. I can make this
happen at work with XP and at home on Vista.

 

Since there is very little tab-recovery support in IE7, it is currently
at the bottom of my annoyances bin.  I cant work with it for any
information I need to retain.  It simply cant be trusted.

--
ME2

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

What kind of weird sites are you people going to?

I have zero issues with IE7 standard.  I use a combination of FF and
IE7 on a variety of different boxes.  I find on systems I have both
installed, I tend to use IE7 because no matter what the FF folks tell
you, overtime FF eats memory and kills your systems performance.  (oh
yes, they fixed the memory issue this time, for real this time, really
it's not as bad as it used to be, honest).  The FF people sound like
Comcast support personal.

I plan on switching over to IE8 at home as soon as is practical
(whenever the download sites stop blowing up :)

Steven


On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 Think aboot what? Its no different than saying firefox is fast with
FastFox
 installed



 From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.



 Think about that for a second.



 --
 Mike Gill



 From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is
the top
 dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
 installed and configured.

 Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get
the
 sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running
on and
 not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and
in 1.5
 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no
more
 memory problems.













~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Yes tab recovery is built into IE8.
TVK

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today

Can't remember the last time when IE7 just gave up and walked away.  But I 
only' have 10-20 tabs open at any given time.  My tab recovery support is via 
IE7Pro.

Which brings up my next batch of questions, what is the recommended process for 
IE7Pro users to move to IE8?   Remove IE7Pro before upgrading?  Is tab recovery 
built-in to IE8?

I'll go google those things now... :)

Carl

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

I can easily reproduce scenarios that make IE7 crash.  IE7 eats waaay more 
memory and cant handle it.  I'm running current versions, side-by-side, aaand I 
have 30+ extensions loaded into FF (while no add-ons with IE7).

My most recently necessity has been to disabled Flash in IE7 because I can make 
it crash repeatedly when logged into Facebook. I can make this happen at work 
with XP and at home on Vista.

Since there is very little tab-recovery support in IE7, it is currently at the 
bottom of my annoyances bin.  I cant work with it for any information I need to 
retain.  It simply cant be trusted.

--
ME2
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Steven Peck 
sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote:
What kind of weird sites are you people going to?

I have zero issues with IE7 standard.  I use a combination of FF and
IE7 on a variety of different boxes.  I find on systems I have both
installed, I tend to use IE7 because no matter what the FF folks tell
you, overtime FF eats memory and kills your systems performance.  (oh
yes, they fixed the memory issue this time, for real this time, really
it's not as bad as it used to be, honest).  The FF people sound like
Comcast support personal.

I plan on switching over to IE8 at home as soon as is practical
(whenever the download sites stop blowing up :)

Steven

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Ross 
mr...@itwif.commailto:mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 Think aboot what? Its no different than saying firefox is fast with FastFox
 installed



 From: Mike Gill 
 [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.commailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.



 Think about that for a second.



 --
 Mike Gill



 From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.commailto:mr...@itwif.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the top
 dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
 installed and configured.

 Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
 sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on and
 not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in 1.5
 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
 memory problems.












~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~











~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Eric Wittersheim
Anyone have an idea when IE 8 will be on WSUS?

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Scot Parsons spars...@scetv.org wrote:

  Me too.



 *From:* Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:45 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: IE8 Download...



 Im running it.



 *From:* Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:51 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* IE8 Download...



 Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no joy.



 *Bill Lambert*

 *Windows System Administrator*

 *Concuity*

 *A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.  *

 *Phone  847-941-9206*

 *Fax  847-465-9147*

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Re: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I can make IE7 crash on fewer tabs, but it depends on the web sites open.
As I see it, it has an issue with AJAX heavy sites.  I'm not a web
developer, so I could be misreading the issue.

I'm not familiar with IE7Pro.  I'm always open to re-evaluations.  If you're
using it, I'll take it would be worth my time to check it out as well.

--
ME2


On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote:

  Can't remember the last time when IE7 just gave up and walked away.  But
 I only' have 10-20 tabs open at any given time.  My tab recovery support is
 via IE7Pro.



 Which brings up my next batch of questions, what is the recommended process
 for IE7Pro users to move to IE8?   Remove IE7Pro before upgrading?  Is tab
 recovery built-in to IE8?



 I'll go google those things now... J



 Carl



 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:38 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: IE 8 today



 I can easily reproduce scenarios that make IE7 crash.  IE7 eats waaay more
 memory and cant handle it.  I'm running current versions, side-by-side,
 aaand I have 30+ extensions loaded into FF (while no add-ons with IE7).



 My most recently necessity has been to disabled Flash in IE7 because I can
 make it crash repeatedly when logged into Facebook. I can make this happen
 at work with XP and at home on Vista.



 Since there is very little tab-recovery support in IE7, it is currently at
 the bottom of my annoyances bin.  I cant work with it for any information I
 need to retain.  It simply cant be trusted.

 --
 ME2

  On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

 What kind of weird sites are you people going to?

 I have zero issues with IE7 standard.  I use a combination of FF and
 IE7 on a variety of different boxes.  I find on systems I have both
 installed, I tend to use IE7 because no matter what the FF folks tell
 you, overtime FF eats memory and kills your systems performance.  (oh
 yes, they fixed the memory issue this time, for real this time, really
 it's not as bad as it used to be, honest).  The FF people sound like
 Comcast support personal.

 I plan on switching over to IE8 at home as soon as is practical
 (whenever the download sites stop blowing up :)

 Steven


 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
  Think aboot what? Its no different than saying “firefox is fast with
 FastFox
  installed”
 
 
 
  From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: IE 8 today
 
 
 
  “I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.”
 
 
 
  Think about that for a second.
 
 
 
  --
  Mike Gill
 
 
 
  From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: IE 8 today
 
 
 
  I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the
 top
  dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
  installed and configured.
 
  Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
  sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on
 and
  not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in
 1.5
  minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
  memory problems.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~














~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Martin Blackstone
Hopefully not for a while.

 

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE8 Download...

 

Anyone have an idea when IE 8 will be on WSUS?

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Scot Parsons spars...@scetv.org wrote:

Me too. 

 

From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:45 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: IE8 Download...

 

Im running it.

 

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IE8 Download...

 

Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no joy.

 

Bill Lambert

Windows System Administrator

Concuity

A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.  

Phone  847-941-9206

Fax  847-465-9147



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Re: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Steven Peck
Not soon enough for some, to soon for others. :)

Steven

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martin Blackstone
mblackst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hopefully not for a while.





 From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: IE8 Download...



 Anyone have an idea when IE 8 will be on WSUS?

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Scot Parsons spars...@scetv.org wrote:

 Me too.



 From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:45 PM

 To: NT System Admin Issues

 Subject: RE: IE8 Download...



 Im running it.



 From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:51 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: IE8 Download...



 Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no joy.



 Bill Lambert

 Windows System Administrator

 Concuity

 A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.

 Phone  847-941-9206

 Fax  847-465-9147

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RE: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Bill Lambert
Sheeshstill no joy...what am I, chopped liver?heh

 

Bill Lambert

Concuity

847-941-9206

 

From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 Download...

 

Me too. 

 

From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 Download...

 

Im running it.

 

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IE8 Download...

 

Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no
joy.

 

Bill Lambert

Windows System Administrator

Concuity

A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.  

Phone  847-941-9206

Fax  847-465-9147

 

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RE: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Roger Wright
www.microsoft.com/ie   took me right to it.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 Download...

 

Sheeshstill no joy...what am I, chopped liver?heh

 

Bill Lambert

Concuity

847-941-9206

 

From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 Download...

 

Me too. 

 

From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 Download...

 

Im running it.

 

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IE8 Download...

 

Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no
joy.

 

Bill Lambert

Windows System Administrator

Concuity

A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.  

Phone  847-941-9206

Fax  847-465-9147

 

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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Brian Desmond
That is your problem right there. PSTs on a file server is a MAJOR no-no. You 
will bring this server sooner or later down doing that.

You are running out of probably nonpaged pool.

Thanks,
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br...@briandesmond.com

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From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

Most people have psts on their home drives on the fileserver, (please don't 
blame me I hate PSTs), the XP machines will slow down to a crawl.
Word docs, etc won't save, drives are disconnected and machines will freeze.
Vista however still running.
I'll have to reboot the server to cure the problem.
Everyone is OK then something happens(Unknown) and it all happens again.
This is the 3rd time it has happened.


From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

So can you elaborate on what slow performance means? When, where, what, etc...

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

I have loaded a server with 2008 STD 32bit with file services and it seems that 
the xp/2003 machines have slow performance connecting or reading drives.
I have checked the taskmgr and cpu is low 1-10% and memory low (4gb installed 
and 700mg - 950 mg used).
Virus protection loaded (Symantec in a non-cache mode).
A few of the domain admins have vista but we have no problems, so I don't know 
if it is because we a admins or because we have vista.
I do have an xp machine next to me that doesn't experience problems, but I only 
use it to run other admin tools that don't run on vista (phone system etc.)

Anyone have an idea what might be wrong?  Or is 2008 as big a P.I.T.A. as vista 
is?

Luke L. Brumbaugh
Network Engineer
Butler Animal Health Supply
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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Carl Houseman
If you're sticking with IE7 then IE7Pro (or Maxthon) is essential for full
featured tabbed browsing.

 

TBD on whether IE7Pro is really needed for tabbed browsing enhancement in
IE8.

 

Carl

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 

I can make IE7 crash on fewer tabs, but it depends on the web sites open.
As I see it, it has an issue with AJAX heavy sites.  I'm not a web
developer, so I could be misreading the issue.

 

I'm not familiar with IE7Pro.  I'm always open to re-evaluations.  If you're
using it, I'll take it would be worth my time to check it out as well.

--
ME2



On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote:

Can't remember the last time when IE7 just gave up and walked away.  But I
only' have 10-20 tabs open at any given time.  My tab recovery support is
via IE7Pro.

 

Which brings up my next batch of questions, what is the recommended process
for IE7Pro users to move to IE8?   Remove IE7Pro before upgrading?  Is tab
recovery built-in to IE8? 

 

I'll go google those things now... J

 

Carl

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:38 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: IE 8 today 

 

I can easily reproduce scenarios that make IE7 crash.  IE7 eats waaay more
memory and cant handle it.  I'm running current versions, side-by-side,
aaand I have 30+ extensions loaded into FF (while no add-ons with IE7).

 

My most recently necessity has been to disabled Flash in IE7 because I can
make it crash repeatedly when logged into Facebook. I can make this happen
at work with XP and at home on Vista.

 

Since there is very little tab-recovery support in IE7, it is currently at
the bottom of my annoyances bin.  I cant work with it for any information I
need to retain.  It simply cant be trusted.

--
ME2

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

What kind of weird sites are you people going to?

I have zero issues with IE7 standard.  I use a combination of FF and
IE7 on a variety of different boxes.  I find on systems I have both
installed, I tend to use IE7 because no matter what the FF folks tell
you, overtime FF eats memory and kills your systems performance.  (oh
yes, they fixed the memory issue this time, for real this time, really
it's not as bad as it used to be, honest).  The FF people sound like
Comcast support personal.

I plan on switching over to IE8 at home as soon as is practical
(whenever the download sites stop blowing up :)

Steven


On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 Think aboot what? Its no different than saying firefox is fast with
FastFox
 installed



 From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.



 Think about that for a second.



 --
 Mike Gill



 From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the
top
 dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
 installed and configured.

 Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
 sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on
and
 not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in
1.5
 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
 memory problems.













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Re: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Don Ely
I got it...

On 3/19/09, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote:
 Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no
 joy.



 Bill Lambert

 Windows System Administrator

 Concuity

 A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.

 Phone  847-941-9206

 Fax  847-465-9147



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2008 TS RemoteApp

2009-03-19 Thread Christopher Bodnar
Anyone using this:

 

 

http://www.tsfactory.com/pages/49/remoteapp-TS-Terminal-Services-users-gro
ups-filter-avoid-block-/

 

Is MS going to make this functionality available in R2? Or is that not
currently planned.

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

 




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RE: IE 8 today

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Ross
Yes me too, but the little blue symbol is no longer represented in the lower
right corner.

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today

 

I just did an in place upgrade to IE8 and my IEPro settings came over okay.

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE 8 today

 

Can't remember the last time when IE7 just gave up and walked away.  But I
only' have 10-20 tabs open at any given time.  My tab recovery support is
via IE7Pro.

 

Which brings up my next batch of questions, what is the recommended process
for IE7Pro users to move to IE8?   Remove IE7Pro before upgrading?  Is tab
recovery built-in to IE8? 

 

I'll go google those things now... J

 

Carl

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE 8 today

 

I can easily reproduce scenarios that make IE7 crash.  IE7 eats waaay more
memory and cant handle it.  I'm running current versions, side-by-side,
aaand I have 30+ extensions loaded into FF (while no add-ons with IE7).

 

My most recently necessity has been to disabled Flash in IE7 because I can
make it crash repeatedly when logged into Facebook. I can make this happen
at work with XP and at home on Vista.

 

Since there is very little tab-recovery support in IE7, it is currently at
the bottom of my annoyances bin.  I cant work with it for any information I
need to retain.  It simply cant be trusted.

--
ME2

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

What kind of weird sites are you people going to?

I have zero issues with IE7 standard.  I use a combination of FF and
IE7 on a variety of different boxes.  I find on systems I have both
installed, I tend to use IE7 because no matter what the FF folks tell
you, overtime FF eats memory and kills your systems performance.  (oh
yes, they fixed the memory issue this time, for real this time, really
it's not as bad as it used to be, honest).  The FF people sound like
Comcast support personal.

I plan on switching over to IE8 at home as soon as is practical
(whenever the download sites stop blowing up :)

Steven


On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Ross mr...@itwif.com wrote:
 Think aboot what? Its no different than saying firefox is fast with
FastFox
 installed



 From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:15 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro installed and configured.



 Think about that for a second.



 --
 Mike Gill



 From: Michael Ross [mailto:mr...@itwif.com]
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:08 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: IE 8 today



 I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the
top
 dog to work with or use.. I have zero issues using IE7, with IE7pro
 installed and configured.

 Zero.. EXCEPT a rare occasion when IE uses a lot of memory, or I get the
 sysfader error..the latter is an issue really with the OS its running on
and
 not IE itself.. as far at the memory issue.. e I just reboot and in
1.5
 minutes, the time it takes me to go get a pepsi.. im back up and no more
 memory problems.













~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: IE8 Download...

2009-03-19 Thread Ziots, Edward
Funny part is already been hacked by a drive-by-exploit from a hacker at
CANSECWEST, so is IE8 really more secure. If they can use existing
hacking techniques to root a box with it on, then your browsing
experience may not be any more secure than it is with IE6.0 or 7. 

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE8 Download...

 

Both the boss and I got it with no problems just a few minutes ago.
Don't worry, it will be a critical security update on WSUS any second
now I would assume.

 

 

 

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: IE8 Download...

 

Has anyone been able to DL it yet?  Went to MS site and tried but no
joy.

 

Bill Lambert

Windows System Administrator

Concuity

A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.  

Phone  847-941-9206

Fax  847-465-9147

 

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RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver

2009-03-19 Thread Brian Desmond
All that said if you're stuck with these things  we can take a shot at tuning 
the box some. X64 is another option that will help drastically.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver


This is an expressly unsupported scenario and is one of the first things I look 
at when I'm dealing with a file server perf issue. Here is an overview slide on 
this exact topic from a talk I am doing next week.







Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com



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-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver



Do the XP machines work until Outlook is opened?  Some notes from MS about

PSTs on network shares not being supported:



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297019



All operations take longer.

Write operations can take approximately four times longer than read

operations.



 - Andy O.



From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]

Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:21 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver



Most people have psts on their home drives on the fileserver, (please don't

blame me I hate PSTs), the XP machines will slow down to a crawl.

Word docs, etc won't save, drives are disconnected and machines will

freeze.Vista however still running.

I'll have to reboot the server to cure the problem.

Everyone is OK then something happens(Unknown) and it all happens again.

This is the 3rd time it has happened.





From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]

Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:03 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Windows 2008 as a fileserver



So can you elaborate on what slow performance means? When, where, what, etc...



Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com



c - 312.731.3132



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Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian



From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]

Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:27 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Windows 2008 as a fileserver



I have loaded a server with 2008 STD 32bit with file services and it seems

that the xp/2003 machines have slow performance connecting or reading

drives.

I have checked the taskmgr and cpu is low 1-10% and memory low (4gb

installed and 700mg - 950 mg used).

Virus protection loaded (Symantec in a non-cache mode).

A few of the domain admins have vista but we have no problems, so I don't

know if it is because we a admins or because we have vista.

I do have an xp machine next to me that doesn't experience problems, but I

only use it to run other admin tools that don't run on vista (phone system

etc.)



Anyone have an idea what might be wrong?  Or is 2008 as big a P.I.T.A. as

vista is?



Luke L. Brumbaugh

Network Engineer

Butler Animal Health Supply

Ph:(614) 659-1736



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