Re: [osol-discuss] Possible IBM aquisition of Sun
Thought you all might find this breaking news interesting: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/More-IBM-Layoffs-Coming-608504/ ...the nightmare continues... Now I'm not an IBM hater. I actually think certain things such as the REXX scripting language, Parallel Sysplex, and System Z mainframe hardware are actually interesting from a purely academic / computer geek perspective, but I think IBM's stance on open-source can sometimes be hypocritical (where's the source code for OS/2 , z/OS, z/VM and AIX?) and that IBM buying Sun makes absolutely no sense because their combined catalogue of SINBM offerings would be unnecessarily redundant. Think about it-- all of their products would overlap in a conflicting way (Solaris conflicts with AIX, SPARC overlaps with POWER, DB2 overlaps with MySQL, Eclipse overlaps with Netbeans, Websphere overlaps with Sun Java System Web Server, Lotus Symphony overlaps with OpenOffice, etc. etc.) Also given the fact that a lot of Sun's best stuff is already open-sourced means that IBM could easily port or fork some of the code (like maybe port Dtrace and ZFS to AIX or optimize Java to run faster on IBM hardware) without paying $6 billion to actually buy Sun. So what could IBM possibly gain by guying Sun? Sun's newer products are slightly better than IBM's IMO because they are more innovative and engineering focused and use more cutting edge technology which maybe makes them a little bit less stable right now than Trusted Solaris 8 on UltraSPARC was 10 years ago, but it will pay off in a very big way if Sun can stay around long enough to see it through to fruition. IBM has always stuck to tried and true money making concepts such as making things that are very stable and that just work without all the advanced tweaking and command line wizardry that using bleeding edge high tech Sun products might require (if you took SMIT, the Linux compatibility, and the workload partitions out of AIX, the result would probably almost be the same thing as a Solaris 9 for Power architecture). IBM's advantages over Sun include the most mature and evolved mainframe class software and hardware on the planet... they've been in the mainframe business for 40+ years; zVM is probably the most mature mainframe virtualization platform out there and parallel sysplex clustering on System Z is probably the most massively scalable high availability business computing architecture I can think of off the top of my head since you can have something like 64 hot swappable quad core CPU's and 1.5 terrabytes of RAM in one System Z mainframe and then you use Parallel Sysplex to cluster 32 of these mainframes together and make it think of itself that it's one big super-mainframe with 2080 CPU's (8320 cores) and 48 terrabytes of RAM... maybe the result would be like the Master Control Program in the movie Tron? Here's a good link that explains it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_Sysplex IBM's DB2 enterprise database software also seems to be underrated in that it seems to perform as well as Oracle (while costing less money) and it's been around longer and is more mature than MySQL (although MySQL is definitely the most popular DB in terms of sheer numbers of installations and it pretty much dominates the Linux landscape). IBM's marketing people also seem to be more aggressive than Sun's people are in that they let existing Sun customers trade in their old SPARC servers for massive discounts on new IBM hardware. Still, even with these advantages, IBM buying SUN makes no sense at all and is sheer lunacy. CISCO buying SUN makes more sense from a purely business perspective because CISCO values engineering and Sun's engineers are the best. CISCO also seems to be interested in getting in to the server market (although the results would probably still be negative for the OpenSolaris community since CISCO is not a big friend of open source like Sun is). Google buying Sun also makes sense somehow because almost everyone who worked at Sun or ATT Bell Labs 25 or 35 years ago seems to be some kind of a honorary fellow or high ranking executive at Google nowadays. The current CEO of Google used to work for Sun back in the day, didn't he? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT reply to Martin - WAS: OpenSolaris-based CD/DVD Distributions
Martin, I believe it would be nice if you either stop trolling or stop reproaching others for trolling. Martin Bochnig wrote: Then why comment? ?? Sorry that I took the freedom to ask a question. It's your beer if you get a law-suit (filed by others, I would never do anything like that). I very much apologize that I dared to post a relevant and justified question to a community list. All I did was politely asking a question which is pretty much on-topic and was not targetted against any person. And all I did was not instantly joining your new Center-of-the-world-project, although I simply wanted to wait how it evolves. Now, however, I cann assure you that I'm never going to join it. -- | Regards, | Alexander 'Sasha' Vlasov. | Solaris System Test: Hitting tomorrow bugs today ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] could ZFS be used to replace FAT/FAT32 in removeable media
Hi, After purchasing a USB to IDE/SATA drive caddy to allow system backups, my attempt was to use a 120GB IDE drive that came out of an old PC. While changing the partition information with fdisk was straight forward, newfs'ing the disk was more of a problem as you had to enter the number of sectors. While searching for a solution, it was suggested using zfs instead and it worked really well, except for hot plugging required manual mount/remount. Given the whole nature of ZFS in terms of reliability, redundancy and availability would it be possible to Have a hot plug storage media which is automatically recognised by Solaris/ZFS and mounted automatically in a /rmedia directory (this would work with USB, Firewire hot plug devices) As ZFS does not have the limits of FAT/FAT32 and is also open source, could it be proposed to the makers of digitial devices like camera, usb memory manufacturers, router manufacturers, etc as a way of eliminating the FAT licensing yoke. This of course would require drivers to be available for Windows to allow read/write access and also speed up the time it makes the disk available for use. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regarding ptrace equivalent in solairs
#includestdio.h
#includeunistd.h
#includeprocfs.h
#includesys/regset.h
int main()
{
FILE *fp;
pstatus_t san;
int c;
pid_t pid;
lwpstatus_t san2;
int nlwp;
pid=getpid();
char str[40];
sprintf(str, /proc/%d/status, pid);
fp=fopen(str,r);
fread(san, sizeof(san), 1, fp);
san2=san.pr_lwp;
printf(eip=%d\n,san2.pr_reg[EIP]);
printf(nlwp=%d\n,san.pr_nlwp);
printf(eax=%d\n,san2.pr_reg[EAX]);
return 0;
}
/*
OUTPUT:
eip=-17832443
nlwp=1
eax=3
*/
I tried this code. But the values the EIP register returned were not what we
expect, right? Why is EIP returning a garbage value. The same is the case with
other registers as well. Only EAX is returning a value which may be thought to
be correct. Even in the case of EAX, how can we check if the value is right?
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Re: [osol-discuss] Any way to tell temperature of hard drives
Another easy way to get SMART type data is the SUNWhd package used on the Thumper servers, but I think it only works with certain kinds of Marvell chip sets: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=312887 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any way to tell temperature of hard drives
The best part of all is that I've heard rumors that you can even mount the CD-ROM drive from your laptop at home on the remote server and re-install the operating system remotely through the ILOM card if your internet connection is fast enough. Yep; and I also use it *upgrade* the BIOS and the firmware in certain add-on cards; you need to boot ms-dos from a CD image and it's nice to be able to do so while you don't have to walk to the lab. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT reply to Martin - WAS: OpenSolaris-based CD/DVD Distributions
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Alexander Vlasov alexander.vla...@sun.com wrote: Martin, I believe it would be nice if you either stop trolling or stop reproaching others for trolling. Martin Bochnig wrote: Then why comment? ?? Sorry that I took the freedom to ask a question. It's your beer if you get a law-suit (filed by others, I would never do anything like that). I very much apologize that I dared to post a relevant and justified question to a community list. All I did was politely asking a question which is pretty much on-topic and was not targetted against any person. And all I did was not instantly joining your new Center-of-the-world-project, although I simply wanted to wait how it evolves. Now, however, I cann assure you that I'm never going to join it. -- | Regards, | Alexander 'Sasha' Vlasov. | Solaris System Test: Hitting tomorrow bugs today What are you doing right now? I expect an apology. EOF ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regarding ptrace equivalent in solairs
Also, when are the files in the proc file system updated? Like if once the file is read, will the data in the file be same throughout, till be close and re-open it while the corresponding process is executing? Just wondering... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regarding ptrace equivalent in solairs
printf(eip=%d\n,san2.pr_reg[EIP]); printf(nlwp=%d\n,san.pr_nlwp); printf(eax=%d\n,san2.pr_reg[EAX]); eip=-17832443 nlwp=1 eax=3 I tried this code. But the values the EIP register returned were not what we expect, right? Why is EIP returning a garbage value. The same is the case with other registers as well. Only EAX is returning a value which may be thought to be correct. Even in the case of EAX, how can we check if the value is right? -17832443 = feefe605 Sounds like a simple shared library address. You have a 64 bit system? Your will find the EIP inside of a read library call... Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any way to tell temperature of hard drives
Here's also how to compile the smartmon tools from the original source code: http://cafenate.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/setting-up-smartmontools-on-opensolaris/ This info might come in handy some day if you ever want to become a developer / programmer / maintainer for smart tools on solaris and want to help fix bugs and add new features and push changes upstream into the smartmon tools source tree. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT reply to Martin - WAS: OpenSolaris-based CD/DVD Distributions
Trying to return one person to reasonable discussion style. What are you doing right now? I expect an apology. -- | Regards, | Alexander 'Sasha' Vlasov. | Solaris System Test: Hitting tomorrow bugs today ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] could ZFS be used to replace FAT/FAT32 in removeable media
As ZFS does not have the limits of FAT/FAT32 and is also open source, could it be proposed to the makers of digitial devices like camera, usb memory manufacturers, router manufacturers, etc as a way of eliminating the FAT licensing yoke. This of course would require drivers to be available for Windows to allow read/write access and also speed up the time it makes the disk available for use. There are many reasons why this doesn't fly: - First of all you will need to build away to easily, automatically import and export removable ZFS pools - Installed base (windows, USB, cameras) - pcfs uses about 1/10 of the code needed for support zfs and it doesn't need as much memory as zfs does. - Microsoft owns pcfs, so there's no point for them to change windows - Porting a filesystem is a lot more difficult. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Tesla power management group
Is this incorporated into opensolaris? If not could a home grown version be included called ecopower??? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regarding ptrace equivalent in solairs
Also, when are the files in the proc file system updated? Like if once the file is read, will the data in the file be same throughout, till be close and re-open it while the corresponding process is executing? They don't exist; whenever you read from such a file, its content is created on the fly. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] regarding ptrace equivalent in solairs
Abhishek abhishek_dha...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
#includestdio.h
#includeunistd.h
#includeprocfs.h
#includesys/regset.h
int main()
{
FILE *fp;
pstatus_t san;
int c;
pid_t pid;
lwpstatus_t san2;
int nlwp;
pid=getpid();
char str[40];
sprintf(str, /proc/%d/status, pid);
fp=fopen(str,r);
fread(san, sizeof(san), 1, fp);
san2=san.pr_lwp;
printf(eip=%d\n,san2.pr_reg[EIP]);
printf(nlwp=%d\n,san.pr_nlwp);
printf(eax=%d\n,san2.pr_reg[EAX]);
return 0;
}
/*
OUTPUT:
eip=-17832443
nlwp=1
eax=3
*/
I tried this code. But the values the EIP register returned were not what we
expect, right? Why is EIP returning a garbage value. The same is the case
with other registers as well. Only EAX is returning a value which may be
thought to be correct. Even in the case of EAX, how can we check if the value
is right?
EIP looks OK, it is a value that may be correct for the code inside fread().
Jörg
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Re: [osol-discuss] OT reply to Martin - WAS: OpenSolaris-based CD/DVD Distributions
Alexander Vlasov alexander.vla...@sun.com wrote: Trying to return one person to reasonable discussion style. What are you doing right now? I expect an apology. I hope that you will do this next time people send personal insults as done recently. As you did not do this a few days ago, your mail looks displaced. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Who is right(disk usage)?
Hello, I'm very confused with the following situation: I have FS rpool/export/uichome mounted on /exprt/uichome. du -sh says its size is 924 Mb: $ du -sh /export/uichome/ 924M /export/uichome df -h says its size is about 3 GB. I can understand this, du doesn't count for open files: $ df -h /export/uichome/ Filesystem size used avail capacity Mounted on rpool/export/uichome35G 3,0G26G11%/export/uichome But zfs list says its size is 8GB. I can't understand that: $ zfs list -r rpool/export/uichome NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool/export/uichome 8,84G 26,2G 2,94G /export/uichome rpool/export/uich...@ident 78,0M - 78,1M - rpool/export/uich...@prod021208 2,66G - 2,66G - rpool/export/uich...@gdm 26,8M - 3,03G - rpool/export/uich...@gdm_ru 26,5M - 3,03G - rpool/export/uich...@prod110109 108M - 2,97G - What is the reason for this behavior? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] could ZFS be used to replace FAT/FAT32 in removeable media
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM, casper@sun.com wrote: As ZFS does not have the limits of FAT/FAT32 and is also open source, could it be proposed to the makers of digitial devices like camera, usb memory manufacturers, router manufacturers, etc as a way of eliminating the FAT licensing yoke. This of course would require drivers to be available for Windows to allow read/write access and also speed up the time it makes the disk available for use. There are many reasons why this doesn't fly: - First of all you will need to build away to easily, automatically import and export removable ZFS pools - Installed base (windows, USB, cameras) - pcfs uses about 1/10 of the code needed for support zfs and it doesn't need as much memory as zfs does. - Microsoft owns pcfs, so there's no point for them to change windows - Porting a filesystem is a lot more difficult. Casper I would agree with Casper: For external USB/eSATA/FireWire hdd's it might make sense (and we Solaris users can simply use ZFS there, let the manufacturers pre-format them with what they want), but for little cameras or embedded use it is just too much overhead (in every aspect) I would assume. Another point is, that pcfs can be read everywhere, by everything, with a small footprint. It will be hard to replace it with another technology, even if completely superior to it. Other communities were already discussiong about ZFS vs. NTFS5 or FAT32: http://www.google.com/search?q=zfs+%22replace+fat%22ie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a But never forget the impact which Microsoft's market dominance has onto what the influental big vendors are going to do, and what not. And with which tricks (in fact dirty and 100% criminal actions) they managed to establish MS-DOS 5.00 and then Windows3.x and 4.x as leading PC operating operating environments: - (really interesting parts contained) http://www.maxframe.com/DR/Info/fullstory/tech.html . I myself managed to get the Win9x (95/98/SE/ME) GUI running on top of DR-DOS and MS-DOS 6.22 as well as PC DOS 5.x, this was possible via the SoftICE low-level debugger and a small TSR which I wrote from 2004 to 2005. I witnessed their dirty tricks like few others, in x86 asm, for example in the VKD.VXD driver which's src they published as part of the Win9x DDK. I doubt ZFS will replace FAT32 in consumer devices, at least until the FAT's maximum filesystem size restrictions become more of a problem (2 TB or 8 TB [with 32KB clusters]) according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table. External drives are approaching this border already (little photo cameras are far away). But this doesn't mean there are substantial hopes for ZFS. In January I bought external drives (1TB, Seagate SATA in Maxdata USB2 enclosure), and they came preformatted with NTFS, not FAT32. Also take into account the new exFAT. ZFS will not replace FAT, unless Microsoft sees whatever hypothetical benefit in it, makes - and pushes through - such a decision by themselves. Having a superior technology doesn't imply you can compete with Microsoft. Otherwise nobody would nowadays talk about something like FAT or WINDOWS, except in cases when she/he needs some fresh air after having returned from jogging;-) %martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Who is right(disk usage)?
$ du -sh /export/uichome/ 924M /export/uichome $ df -h /export/uichome/ Filesystem size used avail capacity Mounted on rpool/export/uichome35G 3,0G26G11%/export/uichome Du can't count files that you don't have access to. Try again as sudo and you might get a different result. Also, I don't know if there's a difference in the way du or df count sparse files. If you have any sparse files, it might make a difference. I don't have any insight for the different number shown by zfs list. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any way to tell temperature of hard drives [amd athlon hrdwr]
Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org writes: Setup: amd Athlon64 2.2Ghz +3400 - Aopen Ak-86 mobo Can anyone tell me if there is some application that can tell the temperatures of my harddrives? Do we have anthing like lm_sensors in the linux world? Anyway at all short of booting to BIOS? SMART firmware based disks can be queried with smartctl. You can find SMARTmontools at : i386: http://blastwave.network.com/csw/unstable/i386/5.11/ smartmontools-5.36,REV=2006.09.11-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz Thanks. I haven't installed this yet but wondered if there is anything that monitors cpu temp available for opensolaris? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any way to tell temperature of hard drives [amd athlon hrdwr]
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org [...] SMART firmware based disks can be queried with smartctl. You can find SMARTmontools at : i386: http://blastwave.network.com/csw/unstable/i386/5.11/ smartmontools-5.36,REV=2006.09.11-SunOS5.8-i386-CSW.pkg.gz Thanks. I haven't installed this yet but wondered if there is anything that monitors cpu temp available for opensolaris? On SPARC plus on older versions of Solaris /usr/sbin/prtdiag used to show exact CPU-fan speed and -temperature in degrees Celsius (at least on Blade1000/2000/SF280R/N20). Newer versions only show ok. I'm not sure if this is a new feature of the prtdiag command, or rather if it is related to the newer OBP version to which I upgraded my boxes in January 2005. A look at the prtdiag code would reveal this. On x86 I'm not sure if /usr/sbin/smbios could be enhanced to query temperature sensors from the BIOS, maybe the is an open-src tools for this. Maybe Dennis Clarke has the right answer on blastwave.org (?). %martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris-based CD/DVD Distributions as of March 26, 2009
OpenSolaris-based CD/DVD Distributions as of March 26, 2009: 12. Polaris (OpenSolaris on PowerPC project, b104+) There's a downloadable Polaris ISO image? Where? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] could ZFS be used to replace FAT/FAT32 in removeable media
Hi Casper, Thanks for the reply. It would nice to have an Open Source file system format which could be used by these electronic devices which did not require FAT. casper@sun.com wrote: As ZFS does not have the limits of FAT/FAT32 and is also open source, could it be proposed to the makers of digitial devices like camera, usb memory manufacturers, router manufacturers, etc as a way of eliminating the FAT licensing yoke. This of course would require drivers to be available for Windows to allow read/write access and also speed up the time it makes the disk available for use. There are many reasons why this doesn't fly: - First of all you will need to build away to easily, automatically import and export removable ZFS pools - Installed base (windows, USB, cameras) - pcfs uses about 1/10 of the code needed for support zfs and it doesn't need as much memory as zfs does. - Microsoft owns pcfs, so there's no point for them to change windows - Porting a filesystem is a lot more difficult. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Who is right(disk usage)?
zfs snapshots won't be accounted for in du/dh tools. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Who is right(disk usage)?
Hello Alexander. $ df -h /export/uichome/ vs $ zfs list -r rpool/export/uichome What is the reason for this behavior? The difference is that in the first case you count the actual space used by files under /export/uichome. The second one shows your zfs including your snapshots - these also consume space in your filesystem, but that is not visible to du or df. You can easily test by creating a new snapshot and looking on REFER column in zfs list, then change/add/overwrite something and look again. HTH, Jan ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Gack New sata replacement... no boot
Setup: Osol.11 build 109 amd Athlon64 +3400 architecture I'm attempting to replace 2 200gb sata drives with 2 750 gb drives. All drives concerned are WD. And the 2 200gb are attached to a: Adeptec 1205sa PCI sata card (non-raid) The two existing drives are in a mirror configuration so I figured to just pull out one, insert a 750 and let it resilver. Understanding it would end up a 200gb mirror. Then pull the other 200gb and insert the new 750. Again resilvering and guessing it will still be a 200 gb mirror, but also guessing that on a third reboot the new 750gb size will be recognized and I'll end up with a 750 gb mirror. Ok, I'm asking here if that should work. But also and more importantly, I hit a snag on the first swap. Pulled out the 200gb and inserted a 750 but it turns out that the new drive, unlike my older 200gb drive does not have the old 4pin power connector that I expected. I see some other connectors in the wiring harness that look like they go to the larger (non-data) fitting on these sata drives. Its about twice as wide as the data plug but has the same little 90 degree hook on one end. The matching plugs on the wire harness appear to be made for this so I go ahead and plug it in, and fire up the machine. As boot up proceeds it gets by the brief memory check that a screen saying: Press F3 to enter configuration utility Primary channel: WDC WD750-blah-bah = my new 750gb drive So I guess this is coming from the Adeptec 1205sa card and press F3... but nothing happens, and no further progress appears possible. Rebooting and ignoring the `Press F3' screen doesn't allow boot to proceed either. So I appear to be stuck and unable to boot up. Anyone see anthing similar or have a suggestion. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Gack New sata replacement... no boot
The two existing drives are in a mirror configuration so I figured to just pull out one, insert a 750 and let it resilver. Understanding it would end up a 200gb mirror. You could do that; make sure you scrub before starting on this exercise. (You have only one copy, of course) Then pull the other 200gb and insert the new 750. Again resilvering and guessing it will still be a 200 gb mirror, but also guessing that on a third reboot the new 750gb size will be recognized and I'll end up with a 750 gb mirror. Ok, I'm asking here if that should work. Yep, I don't that and it worked. But also and more importantly, I hit a snag on the first swap. Pulled out the 200gb and inserted a 750 but it turns out that the new drive, unlike my older 200gb drive does not have the old 4pin power connector that I expected. Yeah, the 4 pin connector is gone. You can get adapters but they only connect the 5V and the 12V (SATA also has 3.3V but 3.5 disks don't use that) I see some other connectors in the wiring harness that look like they go to the larger (non-data) fitting on these sata drives. Its about twice as wide as the data plug but has the same little 90 degree hook on one end. The matching plugs on the wire harness appear to be made for this so I go ahead and plug it in, and fire up the machine. As boot up proceeds it gets by the brief memory check that a screen saying: Press F3 to enter configuration utility Primary channel: WDC WD750-blah-bah = my new 750gb drive Ah, I can't help you there; I don't have a configuration utility for the disks. Did you remove the boot drive? Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Possible IBM aquisition of Sun
I think it's a horrible, horrible mistake. I have worked for IBM, I have had to work with them as a vendor, and doing either has become something that I seek to avoid. I would not recommend them to anyone as a vendor, and I sincerely hope that this deal does not go through. I do not think the deal will provide value for Sun shareholders. Instead I think that value will be lost, and they will see a loss on their present investment in the long term. Anyone who thinks otherwise has not done much basic research into IBM's other corporate and managerial activities, both now and in the past. One of those activities has been to ask for US $30 billion in taxpayer aid. This activity is incompatible with Sun shareholder interests, and those of US citizens. Talk of a deal has driven off malicious short sellers like tick spray, but so far that's about the only positive return I see on the horizon for this deal. Both Sun and IBM's lack of response to potential problems with this idea across the board from interested communities is very troubling. Tim Scanlon BTW - is Sun shareholders in US is capable to have influence on Sun acquisition/non-acquisition by third party? I have a legal higher education also, but I don`t have a clue re US legislation. I mean, here in Ukraine, if shareholders haven`t gave their approval, such acquisition much probably will not happen. -- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Testing validity of Solaris Zones and memory and cpu capping?
What is a good method to test the validity of memory (rcapd) and cpu shares on a particular zone? Does Sun have any tools because tools like top and prstat don't give you a clue to how much memory is really available to a zone. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] could ZFS be used to replace FAT/FAT32 in removeable media
casper@sun.com wrote: There are many reasons why this doesn't fly: - First of all you will need to build away to easily, automatically import and export removable ZFS pools - Installed base (windows, USB, cameras) - pcfs uses about 1/10 of the code needed for support zfs and it doesn't need as much memory as zfs does. - Microsoft owns pcfs, so there's no point for them to change windows - Porting a filesystem is a lot more difficult. I have to disagree with this in part. Yes, with all consumer devices you currently need the pcfs. But for computers no. What I don't understand is why Sun won't port the ZFS to Windows and sell it for creation and free for reading. This way I can use it exclusively for storage on all PC's and share with other people on Windows computers. It's clear Solaris is deficient in reading writing to the pc file system. I have already put ZFS on memory sticks and like it very much. It gets even better when you compress it and encrypt it. I see it completely taking over PC's and Servers using Windows, if it were available. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] could ZFS be used to replace FAT/FAT32 in removeable media
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote: casper@sun.com wrote: There are many reasons why this doesn't fly: - First of all you will need to build away to easily, automatically import and export removable ZFS pools - Installed base (windows, USB, cameras) - pcfs uses about 1/10 of the code needed for support zfs and it doesn't need as much memory as zfs does. - Microsoft owns pcfs, so there's no point for them to change windows - Porting a filesystem is a lot more difficult. I have to disagree with this in part. Yes, with all consumer devices you currently need the pcfs. But for computers no. What I don't understand is why Sun won't port the ZFS to Windows and sell it for creation and free for reading. This way I can use it exclusively for storage on all PC's and share with other people on Windows computers. It's clear Solaris is deficient in reading writing to the pc file system. I have already put ZFS on memory sticks and like it very much. It gets even better when you compress it and encrypt it. I see it completely taking over PC's and Servers using Windows, if it were available. Paul Hi, nice theory. I woul like something like that. However: Does Sun have the market power to make enough Windows users aware of ZFS's benefits? I mean, outside of big datacenters ..., to make normal power-users aware of it. -- %martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
Hi Coming from windows I previously used illustrator, then in ubuntu it was inkscape and xara extreme. These packages aren't available (yet??), so what do people use to draw pictures. If they are working in an opensolaris only environment? Cheers Craig -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Testing validity of Solaris Zones and memory and cpu capping?
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Frank Mancini frank...@hotmail.com wrote: What is a good method to test the validity of memory (rcapd) and cpu shares on a particular zone? Does Sun have any tools because tools like top and prstat don't give you a clue to how much memory is really available to a zone. Memory caps are super useful, but they do have a few issues. The biggest issue is that shared memory is not accounted for properly, so processes that use shared memory can suck up more memory that the amount configured in the memory cap. The second issue is that you can’t use memory caps in the global zone to limit how much memory is used in a local zone. Both of these issues are being worked on by Sun (I once read something, I cannot verify this). See docs.sun.com - maybe. -- %martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Craig van Vliet craigvanvl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Coming from windows I previously used illustrator, then in ubuntu it was inkscape and xara extreme. These packages aren't available (yet??), so what do people use to draw pictures. If they are working in an opensolaris only environment? Hello, why not with /usr/bin/gimp ? rgds. %m ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
Sorry, for having suggested you gimp, I have no experience with vector graphics. All I can suggest is something like this: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22vector+graphics%22+solarisie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a -- %martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
Hi Coming from windows I previously used illustrator, then in ubuntu it was inkscape and xara extreme. These packages aren't available (yet??), so what do people use to draw pictures. If they are working in an opensolaris only environment? Cheers Craig They are compiling necessary software :) Or you can wait until gimp 2.8, i heard it will incorporate some inkscape functions re vector graphics -- With respect, Nik Maslov ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
On 03/27/09 15:47, Craig van Vliet wrote: Hi Coming from windows I previously used illustrator, then in ubuntu it was inkscape and xara extreme. These packages aren't available (yet??), I think inkscape is in the pipeline. Not sure when, but I reckon soon. Don;t know what xara extreme is. But we do have dia :) -Ghee so what do people use to draw pictures. If they are working in an opensolaris only environment? Cheers Craig ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Tesla power management group
Hi Peter, On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Peter Jones bloosk...@netscape.net wrote: Is this incorporated into opensolaris? If not could a home grown version be included called ecopower??? I'm not sure I catched your point, when you mentioned tesla, do you mean the work at here: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/tesla/ If so, the fruit of some projects has already been integrated into opensolaris, like pad, cpupm, powertop. And some are on the way, like tickless kernel, memory power management. Thanks, -Aubrey ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
I found this: http://www.blastwave.org/packages.php/skencil http://www.blastwave.org/packages.php/sodipodi There you go. %martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
Craig van Vliet wrote: Hi Coming from windows I previously used illustrator, then in ubuntu it was inkscape and xara extreme. These packages aren't available (yet??), so what do people use to draw pictures. If they are working in an opensolaris only environment? Cheers Craig I use Openoffice - Draw. Seems pretty full featured to me. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone compile ffmpegthumbnailer on opensolaris
My install path is /opt/mediatomb and the pkg-config cmd as run by configure sees them (/opt/mediatomb/usr/include/libavcodec/avcodec.h etc) avcodec.h etc) fine but some other check is failing. moviedecoder.h/c has 2 paths. One seems to secondary /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h ffmpeg symlink and the other primary path is of the form /prefix/include/libavcodec/avcodec.h which it should find it (prefix=/opt/mediatomb). However it does not. I'm convinced the configure code is broken but not sure how to fix it. Anyone actually compile this on opensolaris? -bash-3.2$ export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/mediatomb/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig -bash-3.2$ pkg-config --exists --print-errors libavutil libavformat libavcodec libswscale -bash-3.2$ pkg-config --cflags libavutil libavformat libavcodec libswscale -I/opt/mediatomb/include others have had this problem with redhat in the past, more here http://code.google.com/p/ffmpegthumbnailer/issues/detail?id=18#c0 Any help is greatly appreciated. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Gack New sata replacement... no boot
casper@sun.com writes: As boot up proceeds it gets by the brief memory check that a screen saying: Press F3 to enter configuration utility Primary channel: WDC WD750-blah-bah = my new 750gb drive Ah, I can't help you there; I don't have a configuration utility for the disks. Did you remove the boot drive? No I didn't remove boot drive but maybe I should explain a bit further. The boot drive originally was an IDE 60gb drive I. I installed an IDE 500gb and you walked me through attach/resilver/detach/reboot. Reboot again and I have 500gb boot drive (single now). OK, so now I have pulled out the detached 60gb IDE drive, and am adding a second IDE 500gb to mirror rpool. But at the same time decided to upgrade another zpool on a pair of sata 200gb in mirror config. So at the same time as adding the 500gb IDE drive I also pulled one of the 200gb satas from the 2nd zpool and replaced it with a 750gb sata and rebooted. At that point I hit the snag this thread is about. So I think I'll disconnnect the sata drives entirely. Boot up and see if the there is any problem booting and resilvering the new 500gb IDE. Then go back and try replacing one of the satas at a time. I'm going to do that now... and report back after. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
On 27 Mar 2009, at 15:47, Craig van Vliet wrote: Hi Coming from windows I previously used illustrator, then in ubuntu it was inkscape and xara extreme. These packages aren't available (yet??), so what do people use to draw pictures. If they are working in an opensolaris only environment? Normally OpenOffice Draw, but Dia (SUNWdia in /dev) is quite good for some jobs too. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:calum.ben...@sun.comOpenSolaris Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
Hi, Sodipodi is early inkscape, and I did have it in use from blastwave before, I have a new machine I am setting up. Skencil is a kde app, and I am not sure how well it works in gnome. I have found dia extremely useful in the past, and only after posting did I think of it again. I also agree that Open Office draw does suffice for most jobs. Scribus has some pretty good svg capability as well. It is just that this is about the only thing stopping me being able to be opensolaris only. I would also like lyx, but can live without it. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT reply to Martin - WAS: OpenSolaris-based CD/DVD Distributions
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2009-March/045786.html Now I'm curious.. can you site a reference or which ™ you were scared of using? Just for the records, for what it is worth, the only questionable domain name (of a whole bunch) which I ever mentioned in public (afterwards) : http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/advocacy-discuss/2007-September/000568.html Martin Bochnig mb1x at gmx.com Fri Sep 21 22:39:18 PDT 2007 I once owned a domain called solaris4u.org for a month (I wanted to provide noncommercial community services from there). I got warned and instantly dropped that domain. I can tell you that I would have called MartUX MartUX OpenSolaris, if that had not been prevented by OpenSolaris' main sponsor's legal policies, which I obviously have to - and do - respect. plus: My goal has always been to provide _a_ distro of some use. For - and as part of - the www.opensolaris.org framework. Not to replace opensolaris.org (unless as true worst-case Anti-IBM measure, as part of a mutual understanding across the overall www.opensolaris.org community, if anybody would ever be going to shut down the servers, and in such a case I couldn't do or suggest it without all the brilliant engineers from OS/Net and all the other communities and projects. It is silly). This can be verified across the list archives. I'm not the center of the world and I won't pretend to be. I'm an individual member of a grand vision: opensolaris.org. What I find challenging is, that some other poster with a sun.com address seems to support such branch-off actions (although completely under-resourced in most aspects) at a time, where Sun is still Sun, and where opensolaris.org is still opensolaris.org - under the good current constitution. I still didn't get a response to my original TM (OSUNIX) question (well-intended warning mixed with some healthy scepticism), but at least do I hope, that my initial message does not get mis-interpreted anymore. It was a copyright related question. Not more, not less. With a sharp (and disappointing) personal reaction, and then even a small chain. p.s. I leave office now and won't be online for about 6 hours. So I cannot respond right away. And to be honest: IMO this thread does not need to be continued. Enough talk. I hope I could justify/explain something. Thank you all. %martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Site Maintenance 03/29, 3-4 hours @ 4am PT
We need to do some extended database maintenance this weekend, so the site will be down on Sunday, March 29th for 3-4 hours, starting at 4am PT [7 am ET/11am GMT]. Sorry for any inconvenience. Derek -- Derek Cicero Program Manager Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Lags with OpenSolaris 2008.11 - help investigate
Ok. Thanks. Yes, it looks like the problem comes from Xorg. It's the process that takes the CPU. I'd like to try the hints you provide, but, it's going to sound stupid, but I can't find any xorg.conf on my PC ?? I tried to slocate it: none. Would you know why/how to do it ? Regards Axelle -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Possible IBM aquisition of Sun
system5 said: CISCO buying SUN makes more sense from a purely business perspective because CISCO values engineering and Sun's engineers are the best. CISCO also seems to be interested in getting in to the server market (although the results would probably still be negative for the OpenSolaris community since CISCO is not a big friend of open source like Sun is). Google buying Sun also makes sense somehow because almost everyone who worked at Sun or ATT Bell Labs 25 or 35 years ago seems to be some kind of a honorary fellow or high ranking executive at Google nowadays. The current CEO of Google used to work for Sun back in the day, didn't he? Either of those outcomes would be vastly more preferable than a sale to IBM. Then too in my opinion, getting kicked in the head over and over would be preferable to dealing with IBM. Far less painfully stupid and ingrown at least. Tim -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Gack New sata replacement... no boot
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: As boot up proceeds it gets by the brief memory check that a screen saying: Press F3 to enter configuration utility Primary channel: WDC WD750-blah-bah = my new 750gb drive Ah, I can't help you there; I don't have a configuration utility for the disks. Did you remove the boot drive? No I didn't remove boot drive but maybe I should explain a bit further. The boot drive originally was an IDE 60gb drive I. I installed an IDE 500gb and you walked me through attach/resilver/detach/reboot. Reboot again and I have 500gb boot drive (single now). OK, so now I have pulled out the detached 60gb IDE drive, and am adding a second IDE 500gb to mirror rpool. But at the same time decided to upgrade another zpool on a pair of sata 200gb in mirror config. So at the same time as adding the 500gb IDE drive I also pulled one of the 200gb satas from the 2nd zpool and replaced it with a 750gb sata and rebooted. At that point I hit the snag this thread is about. So I think I'll disconnnect the sata drives entirely. Boot up and see if the there is any problem booting and resilvering the new 500gb IDE. Then go back and try replacing one of the satas at a time. I'm going to do that now... and report back after. Now, I've disconnected all sata drives (2) rebooted and added a mirror to my 500gb IDE boot Drive. Went back to the sata problem. I'm trying to enlarge a zpool on 2 sata 200gb drives with 2 sata 750s. The originals are on an adaptec 1205sa PCI sata controller. When I booted before all these changes I'd see a message after the memory check and after the IDE drives wire reported that said: Press F3 to enter configuration utility Primary channel: WDC WD200-blah-bah 190782 mb secondary: channel:WDC WD200-blah-blah 190782 mb (I ad-libed the drive names and sizes but that was the format) I'm pretty sure this message is coming from the adaptec 1205sa PCI card I found by ignoring it, in moment boot would continue and all was well. Now I find when I swap one of the 200gb satas for 750 sata, when I get to that message during boot it looks like: Press F3 to enter configuration utility Primary channel: WDC WD200-blah-bah 190782 mb secondary: channel:WDC WD750-blah-blah Notice the size is missing from newly added 750. And there the boot stops. Ignoring it does not allow boot to continue, pressing F3 does nothing at all. Hard to see how to proceed from here? It appears to be the adaptec 1205sa that is hanging things, and it seems to be because it cannot discern the size of the disk. I got that adaptec 1205sa because it appears on the HCL as something that has been tried and worked, on at least one set of hardware. I don't recall what hardware, but so far it has worked on my hardware, until now. I'm guessing it needs to know the size and cannot find it because the disk is brand new. The other 2 sata I had on that controller were from a windows machine. I just plugged them into the card on my osol server and it all appeared to work.. and his been happily collecting data in mirror config. Any one have an idea how I might proceed. Maybe format the darn things a widows machine and then try again? Or is there some other smarter way? I'm admittedly a bit slow and now all that experienced either. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Growing a zpool mirror breaks on Adaptec 1205sa PCI card
Setup: Osol.11 build 109 Athlon64 3400+ Aopen AK-86L mobo adeptec 1250sa Sata PCI controller card I'm having trouble with an adaptec 1205sa (non-raid) SATA PCI card. It was all working fine when I plugged 2 used sata 200gb disks of a windows xp machine into it. Booted my osol server and added a zpool mirror using those 2 drives and the adaptec 1205sa SATA PCI card. So I know it works. On every boot I see a message like this Press F3 to enter configuration utility Primary channel: WDC WD200-blah-blah 190782 MB Primary secondary: WDC WD200-blah-blah 190782 MB There would be a bief pause which I ignored then it would continue on up. And work just fine. I did try pressing F3 to see what the utility did but it had no effect and booted on up. Now my 200gb mirror is too small, I'm replacing it with 2 750s. I thought I would shutdown, pull one 200gb and replace it with a 750 to be attached and resilvered. Then the other 750. However I hit a snag right away. Pulled a 200gb added a 750 but on boot when I get to that screen I see: Press F3 to enter configuration utility Primary channel: WDC WD200-blah-blah 190782 MB Primary secondary: WDC WD750-blah-blah Note the size is missing. And there the boot hangs.. forever. Pressing F3 has no effect whatever. So it appears I'm stuck. I'm thinking the problem is that the adaptec for some reason needs to be able to report a size and that is whats hanging things up. So I wondered if it might get me past this hang if I were to plug that new 750 into a windows/or linux machine and format it, either as ntfs on windows or just fdisk a partition of the entire drive on linux. I hate to do all that if it isn't necessary and wondered if some of you experienced people might have a suggestion or two ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole system
hello, i`m using a sil3114 sata controller with a zfs configured as mirror. if i disconnect one of the drives, the whole system stalls until i reconnect the drive. i cannot even login via network anymore. this lasts at least for some minutes (don`t know if it cures itself after a while), but if i reconnect the drive, all is well again at once. that`s not the expected behaviour from a raid configuration, imho. hints ? regards roland ps: can post some information from the logs very soon. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SUN cc has the option -save_args?
Jin Yao wrote: Hi, The X64 passes the first six arguments in registers %rdi, %rsi, Can I use one compiler option like -save_args to store argments in stack like what the i386 does? I tried this option, but it's failed. The logs are here: cc -O -g -save_args -m64 -c -o cpc.o cpc.c cc: -a conflicts with -dy. *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `cpc.o' http://forums.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=849 is a better place to ask. -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Growing a zpool mirror breaks on Adaptec 1205sa PCI card
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: Setup: Osol.11 build 109 Athlon64 3400+ Aopen AK-86L mobo adeptec 1250sa Sata PCI controller card I'm having trouble with an adaptec 1205sa (non-raid) SATA PCI card. Sorry that post was intended for zfs group. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole system
roland wrote: i`m using a sil3114 sata controller with a zfs configured as mirror. if i disconnect one of the drives, the whole system stalls until i reconnect the drive. i cannot even login via network anymore. Not all hardware is suitable for hot removal of devices, whether the OS supports it or not. Have you checked the documentation of your box or controller? We're swapping (SCSI) disks in our Sun V20z's all the time, running Solaris 10, but I would not try this in any box just because the OS can. Hans ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Tesla power management group
Peter Jones wrote: Yes this is spot on.. but my point is that more and more CIO's should be aware the system should be differentiating itself as eco friendly in terms of low power running cost decisions but also as a differentiator in market terms to other types of systems.The point of subbranding and making the users aware of power saving technology specifically is that opensolaris is a technalogical lead in the market which saves them running costs and capital investment in their business where energy costs are increasing an important factor in the commercial decision to buy?? Perhaps a green icon or logo could be placed on the system somewhere? Hope this is helpful Peter This is a good idea, and supporting an efficient OpenSolaris software ecosystem is the goal of tesla project. As for the logo issue, Eric should have more thoughts than me. Thanks, -Aubrey ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Testing validity of Solaris Zones and memory and cpu capping?
Thanks Martin, are you saying you can't use the rcapd in the global to limit memory via the FSS in the non-global zone? What is a good way to test to see if your cpu is really capping correctly? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Possible IBM aquisition of Sun
More bad news Oracle and HP are bidding on a joint Sun Dismemberment Deal http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/03/26/oracle_hp_joint_sun_deal/ I'm still hoping that this going to fall through and end up doing nothing but raising Sun's stock price over the short term. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Possible IBM aquisition of Sun
More bad news Oracle and HP are bidding on a joint Sun Dismemberment Deal http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/03/26/oracle_hp_joint_sun_deal/ I'm still hoping that this going to fall through and end up doing nothing but raising Sun's stock price over the short term. I'm guessing that Oracle's main interest is in killing off the open source MySQL database that Linux relies on while IBM's main interest is in killing off Solaris and Dtrace / ZFS HP probably only cares about getting Sun's high tech server technology and engineering skills, which are technologically years ahead of everyone else (including IBM and HP). -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Possible IBM aquisition of Sun
Competition is good for the marketplace and brings innovation, I believe Ben Franklin coined the orig quote. The other hidden issue that no one talks about in these deals is how much they would save in royalties in buying a target company. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
