Re: [opensuse] Suspicious Update

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 15:28 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:25:33AM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > As I have then same concerns here you go.
> > 
> > On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 09:30 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > > zypper lu
> > 
> > Repository:   | Name | Version | Category | Status
> > --+--+-+--+---
> > openSUSE-10.3-Updates | openmotif22-libs | 4540-0  | optional | Needed
> 
> According to the screenshot it is not selected in the updater, and
> this is correct for optional updates.
> 
> Ciao, Marcus

The question is, is this actually a 64 bit update being offered in a 32
bit system or is it actually a 32 bit program update that is actually
"needed" in a 32 bit system? and if it is a 64 bit update why is it
offered in a 32 bit system?

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Re: [opensuse] Compiz Update on XGL Build Service 6.0

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 10:22 -0700, Sloan wrote:
> cyberpunks wrote:
> > Install ati 8.40 drivers. Remove official ati drivers and ati
> > repository and click here to install the version that is supposed to
> > work on most ATI hardware:
> >
> > http://opensuse-community.org/ati-legacy.ymp
> >
> > Do not run sax2 after installation.
> >
> > Check if symlink to Xgl is created properly:
> >
> > ll /usr/bin/X
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Oct 21 23:02 /usr/bin/X -> /usr/bin/Xgl
> >
> > If it is not created, create it.
> >
> > Remove any compiz autostart scripts and reboot.
> >   
> 
> I'm confused - what is the reboot for?
> 
> Joe

There is no need to reboot, just restart your xsession. The easiest way
is to logout and then login. When you logout "X" is automatically
restarted.

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Re: [opensuse] Missing functionality in Gnome Updater and YOU?

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 16:55 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
> Kevin Dupuy wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 13:15 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
> >> 1) openSUSE Updater (Gnome)
> >> In preferences I've tried to check both "include optional patches" as
> >> well as "include 3rd party updates". The updater works, but .
> >>
> >> How to see the details which updates are installed, confirm and possiby
> >> uncheck unwished updates, as well as seeing the elapsed time bar?
> >>
> >> 2) YOU (Gnome)
> >> The new YOU interface includes recommended patches and optional updates
> >> (not more than the Updater does as far as I can see).
> >>
> >> How to check for and upgrade to other, newer software versions for All
> >> Packages?
> >>
> >> So far in 10.3 as a workaround I've had to install and login to a KDE
> >> session instead, to do what previous worked in Gnome as well:
> >> YaST2>Software>Online Update
> >> Package menu>All packages>Update if newer versions are available
> >>
> >>
> >> --Terje
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > 1.I agree that the updater needs to show the status of downloading
> > packages, and a list of what it's downloading. Perhaps that what they
> > can use the "Details" button for, rather than launching the whole YaST
> > module.
> >

YOU never has performed "third party" updates, only security and
critical updates. I think I have seen where YOU do "third party" updates
in a future release.

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Re: [opensuse] awful openoffice splash

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 17:12 +0200, primm wrote:
> On Saturday 20 October 2007 16:54:19 Josef Assad wrote:
> > Kevin Dupuy wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 13:09 -0500, Scott Jones wrote:
> > >> On Wednesday 17 October 2007, primm wrote:
> > >
> > > I want to know who at SUSE/Novell let that splash screen leave with that
> > > ugly gray around it!
> >
> > gimp's splash is visually consistent with the OO.o splash. I think it's
> > positive to note that - even if you don't like the logo - the strive for
> > visual consistency is A Good Thing(tm).
> >
> 
> I totally disagree. Make a splash that appeals to women. The gimp need to 
> show 
> what it's at, not what it's for. Men love consistency I know. Women thrive on 
> variety. They make your life more interesting.
> 
> When was the last time _you_ invited anyone to dinner and asked them if they 
> preferred red or white?
> 

Actually you need to have a splash screen that looks very professional
so the CEO at Bigcorp, Corp. will get the impression that the product is
very professional. I'm not saying that OO is not professional it is the
CEO that needs to be impressed so they will use it in their company.

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Re: [opensuse] Wrong symlink /etc/alternatives/java after apply security updates (openSUSE 10.3)

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 21:52 +0200, Raúl Moratalla wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have installed (using rpms) in my openSUSE 10.3 Java 1.5 and Java 1.6. 
> Yesterday I installed using openSUSE updater two security fixes for Java 1.5 
> and 1.6.
> 
> Before doing this, symlink /etc/alternatives/java was pointing to the path of 
> Java 1.6 but after applying the security updates it didn't point to the new 
> version of Java 1.6, it still pointed to the old path.
> 
> We've been discussing this in the spanish mailing list and seems that more 
> people have the same problem. Is this a bug?
> 

I would say so as I have the same problem with the symlinks pointing to
the wrong area.

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Re: [opensuse] evolution contacts

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 15:14 -0500, Bryen wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 15:51 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 12:52 -0500, Bryen wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 13:38 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > > > Has anyone else that is using 10.3 and evolution noticed their contacts
> > > > list auto adding addresses even though that setting is turned off? Every
> > > > time I reply to any email the OP's address is being added to my contacts
> > > > list.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Ken,  did you turn it off in Plugins - Automatic Contacts or elsewhere?
> > > 
> > 
> > The only place I see the option is:
> > 
> > Edit-->Preferences-->Mail Preferences, Automatic Contacts
> > 
> > And the selection is un-checked.
> > 
> Ken,
> 
> Try Edit --> Plugins --> Then Uncheck the "Automatic Plugins" option.
> 

Ah. Didn't look there. It doesn't make sense to have the same option in
more than one place and only one works. If the one under Edit->Prefs
doesn't work why don't the devs remove it.

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Re: [opensuse] evolution contacts

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 12:52 -0500, Bryen wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 13:38 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > Has anyone else that is using 10.3 and evolution noticed their contacts
> > list auto adding addresses even though that setting is turned off? Every
> > time I reply to any email the OP's address is being added to my contacts
> > list.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Ken,  did you turn it off in Plugins - Automatic Contacts or elsewhere?
> 

The only place I see the option is:

Edit-->Preferences-->Mail Preferences, Automatic Contacts

And the selection is un-checked.

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[opensuse] evolution contacts

[Kenneth Schneider]

Has anyone else that is using 10.3 and evolution noticed their contacts
list auto adding addresses even though that setting is turned off? Every
time I reply to any email the OP's address is being added to my contacts
list.

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Re: [opensuse] Lexmark e220 printer

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:12 -0400, Bob Cataldo wrote:
> When I installed Opensuse 10.3 I had my Lexmark E220 hooked up. The 
> install recognized the printer and I was able to print out a test page. 
> Now when I try to print anything it just sits in the print queue and 
> does nothing. When I go into Yast and try to print a test page nothing 
> happens.
> 
> When I connect to my office using Citrix, the Citrix client recognized 
> the E220 as my local printer, but nothing will print ( since I can't 
> print locally ).
> 
> Where would I go to look for error messages for the printer?
> 
> Under 10.2 I had to fool the computer into thinking I had a HP4. It was 
> good for printing text, but not graphics. Under 10.3 I can't print anything.
> 
> Any help or pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
> 

KDEmenu-->Print System-->Print Manager

Highlight the printer and use the third pulldown and select Start
Printer.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 openSUSE updater

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 21:14 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 17:24 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 10:49:19AM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > > I have performed fresh installs on my laptop and my desktop, preserving
> > > home, and have the following happening.
> > > 
> > > On my laptop when instructing the updater to install the update it goes
> > > and does this without asking for the root password but on the desktop I
> > > am required to provide the password. Is there a setting somewhere for
> > > this I have accidentally set on the laptop? I'm sure others in the
> > > corporate world wouldn't want this to happen without being able to
> > > restore the defaults.
> > 
> > This will happen if you configured "sudo" for your desktop user to just
> > go to root. opensuse updater KDE uses kdesu , which in turn uses sudo.
> > 
> > Ciao, Marcus
> 
> How do configure "sudo" in yast2 in order to achieve this?

Look in the security section, the same place you can add users.

> 
> Please adhere to the OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette
> http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette
> 
> 
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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 openSUSE updater

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 17:24 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 10:49:19AM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > I have performed fresh installs on my laptop and my desktop, preserving
> > home, and have the following happening.
> > 
> > On my laptop when instructing the updater to install the update it goes
> > and does this without asking for the root password but on the desktop I
> > am required to provide the password. Is there a setting somewhere for
> > this I have accidentally set on the laptop? I'm sure others in the
> > corporate world wouldn't want this to happen without being able to
> > restore the defaults.
> 
> This will happen if you configured "sudo" for your desktop user to just
> go to root. opensuse updater KDE uses kdesu , which in turn uses sudo.
> 
> Ciao, Marcus

Just shows to go you how short ones memory can get. That was it. Thanks
Marcus.

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[opensuse] 10.3 openSUSE updater

[Kenneth Schneider]

I have performed fresh installs on my laptop and my desktop, preserving
home, and have the following happening.

On my laptop when instructing the updater to install the update it goes
and does this without asking for the root password but on the desktop I
am required to provide the password. Is there a setting somewhere for
this I have accidentally set on the laptop? I'm sure others in the
corporate world wouldn't want this to happen without being able to
restore the defaults.


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Re: [opensuse] Evolution Netiquette Question

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 02:09 +0200, Igor Jagec wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 18:49 -0500, Bryen wrote:
> 
> > Seems to me that some people don't realize that a Reply-to-list function
> > is not obvious to all.  And those who aren't aware of the semi-"hidden"
> > feature suffer the wrath of others.  
> 
> Yep. There's a nice FAQ about Evolution: http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ
> 
> > In any case, obviously this has been an issue before I came along.  I
> > figure the best way to solve this is to submit an enhancement request
> > for Evolution which I just did. 
> > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=334428
> 
> The problem of Evolution is that it is not very much configurable. For
> instance, we can't edit Reply headers, toolbars, and so on.
> 

This is because it is gnome based and gnome is slowly being "dumbed
down". I have noticed quite a few packages that have a lot of the
configurable options removed. One of the reasons I don't use gnome.
linux is supposed to be about choice and many of those choices are being
removed from the gnome apps. I may end up switching to another email
client soon if evolution loses many more user options.
Just my $.02.

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Re: [opensuse] Evolution Netiquette Question

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 00:55 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> The Tuesday 2007-10-16 at 18:36 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> 
> >> If the list Netiquette for this list is to reply to the List, why is the
> >> Reply-To field set to the original author?
> >
> > Perhaps he, like me, got tired of all the duplicate emails (and set it
> > that way in the client program) because some people simply use
> > reply-to-all instead of reply-to-list.
> 
> Er... if you set the Reply-To to the original author, you will still get 
> double mails. It might make sense if they set it to the list.
> 
> Also, many people use reply to all simply because their client programs do 
> not have the reply to list function (mine doesn't).
> 
> 

Well, we all know there are still some lame client programs out there.
In my case, if you looked, the reply-to is set to the list because _I_
got fed up receiving two emails when people replied to my posts.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Installing vmware server under 10.3

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 18:37 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> Ignore this.
> 

OK.

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Re: [opensuse] Evolution Netiquette Question

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 21:46 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 13:50 -0500, Bryen wrote:
> 
> > This makes it a real pain to follow the rules of the road here.  And
> > apparently from a recent post I observed, others are having this problem
> > too.  I'm not criticizing the rules here, just asking for assistance in
> > how to follow the rules here while still using Evolution, which I happen
> > to like and use as my preferred client.
> 
> No big discussion wanted here. This is a can of worms. But I have to
> ask:
> 
> If the list Netiquette for this list is to reply to the List, why is the
> Reply-To field set to the original author?

Perhaps he, like me, got tired of all the duplicate emails (and set it
that way in the client program) because some people simply use
reply-to-all instead of reply-to-list.

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Re: [opensuse] Bootable 'Repair Installation' for 10.3

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 19:57 +0100, d_garbage wrote:
> Hello list,
> The 'repair' feature has helped me before and it would be good to have it  
> at hand, for when I (inevitably) bork my shiny new 10.3 install.
> The original 'repair installation' option on the DVD was broken. Now the  
> yast module has been fixed, can you tell me how to get/make a bootable  
> 'repair installation' rescue disk to replace it?
> Thanks,
> David

I was going to ask the same question. It would be a simple solution to
provide a delta that can be applied to the DVD, but that is up to the
good folks at openSUSE to provide.

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Re: [opensuse] Evolution Netiquette Question

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 21:02 +0200, jdd wrote:
> Bryen wrote:
> 
> > I wouldn't exactly call it trimming.  More like cut and replace.   I
> > have to delete the contents of the To: field, then copy the contents of
> > the CC: field into the To: field.
> 
> the second step is not usefull (the copy) - at least not in seamonkey
> jdd

But then this thread is not about seamonkey is it? One of the ways is to
use ctrl-l to reply to the list only. You used to be able to right click
in the message to get a reply-to-list function but I guess gnome
developers don't use list mail or want people to have easy access to
commands.

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Re: [opensuse] How do I blacklist modules for the onboard audio card?

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 15:06 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
> With every boot the onboard audio card interferes with the PCI
> Soundblaster card. I think the problem is caused by the modules being
> loaded for the  onboard audio card at each boot. How do I blacklist
> these modules in openSUSE?
> 

/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

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Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 on ML370 G3

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 18:30 +0800, kengheng wrote:
> Hi All, I've installed OpenSuse 10.3 on a ML370 G3 Server, however each 
> time I finished the installation. the next initiate boot process will 
> failed, the ML370 G3 server always claimed it can't find the boot 
> partition. I'm using Smart Array to configure raid 1 for my HD.
> 
> Any body got the same issues?
> 
> Thanks

Check out http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331662

I have an ML330 G3 (using a smart array) and had the same problem. Can
you show what is in /boot/grub/device.map and /boot/grub/menu.lst? I was
able to boot by using the rescue option on the install DVD and selecting
to boot installed system.

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Re: [opensuse] System mail in 10.3

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 12:53 -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> On Sunday 14 October 2007 12:12:19 pm Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 11:19 -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> > > How do you tell the system which user openSUSE should send the system
> > > mail to? I know in 10.2 this could be done through YaST -> User
> > > Management, but that option is not there in 10.3.  Any one have a clue of
> > > where it has been moved to, or anyway other than YaST to do this?
> >
> > Easiest way is to edit /etc/aliases and add a line like:
> >
> > root: some_user_name
> >
> > Save the changes and run newaliases. All of this is done as the root
> > user.
> >
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> > UNIX  since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE  since 1998
> 
> Thank you I made the change and ran newaliases now I just need to wait and 
> see 
> if it works, assuming it doesn't matter where in the file you need add that 
> line.

It is easy enough to test, just send an email to root. From the command
line you could use:

mail -s test root

You will then be able to type in some text and end the message by typing
ctrl-d on a new line.

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Re: [opensuse] System mail in 10.3

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 11:19 -0400, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> How do you tell the system which user openSUSE should send the system mail 
> to?  
> I know in 10.2 this could be done through YaST -> User Management, but that 
> option is not there in 10.3.  Any one have a clue of where it has been moved 
> to, or anyway other than YaST to do this?

Easiest way is to edit /etc/aliases and add a line like:

root: some_user_name

Save the changes and run newaliases. All of this is done as the root
user.

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Re: [opensuse] New 10.3 install, can't get wireless to work

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 20:49 -0400, Steve Jacobs wrote:
> I've searched messages on this list, and haven't seen a solution to this yet.
> 
> I've got a Dell lnspiron 8500, with the Dell TrueMobile 1300 wireless card.
> 
> Under Win XP, and Suse 10.1 or 10.2 a long time ago using ndiswrapper,
> the wireless card works.
> 
> My wireless network uses WPA2-Personal, AES.
> 
> I've just installed openSuse 10.3 (32-bit). Following the install, the
> wireless would not connect. I saw in the install notes that if the
> network uses a non-broadcast ESSID, I may need to remove the intel
> wireless driver installed by default, and the other will install
> automatically. n my system neither of those intel drivers was
> installed by default.
> 
> As my wireless card is Broadcom, not Intel, I guessed that was why
> neither was installed, and also guessed neither will work for me.

Do you know which broadcom chip it uses? Some will work without using
ndiswrapper. Mine uses the bcm43xx and I needed to use bcm43xx-fwcutter
to extract the firmware to /lib/firmware and I also had to turn on SSID
broadcast.

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Re: [opensuse] Top posting is just fine - NOT on this list!

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 19:52 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote:
> On 10/13/2007 sfreilly wrote:
> >  ok, we might as well take bets on how long this thread is going to 
> > last
> > before the last post is made.  I say sometime near halloween , any
> > takers??
> > 
> > here we go AGAINlol
> 
> I got Nov. 4, 2007 at 00:00Z
> 

I think Henne will take care of it before that.

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Re: [opensuse] Top posting is just fine - NOT on this list

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 17:14 -0600, John Meyer wrote:
> While I hate to bring this back to topic (I'm a bud man myself), I have
> nothing against either top or bottom posting.   You can make reasonable
> arguments for either style, therefore it is a matter of choice.  One
> caveat, though: if you bottom post or interthread your responses I would
> think that you should go out of your way to delete material that you're
> not commenting on.  I think you'd have a major  problem if you quoted
> six paragraphs only to comment on the first one or two.  Also, I would
> be much more worried if you cut the intro line (so-and-so wrote)
> improperly with the quote.
> 

Just do what I do with the ones that can't to go with the wishes of the
majority on this list, create a filter to delete their posts like I just
did with you John. I hope some day you don't ask a question I had the
answer to cause I'll never see your request.

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel update for 10.3

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 16:35 -0400, Richard Creighton wrote:
> Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> >
> > You might want to re-check this. I just upgraded to the new kernel and
> > it deleted the old one. The link to the "old kernel" actually points to
> > the new one. The new one just uses the full name instead of the link.
> >
> >   
> That is very strange...I have both the new kernel and the old .31 kernel
> in /boot and my /grub menu.1st had 4 entries, 2 of which pointed to the
> new kernel and 2 pointed to the old .31 kernel.   I am not aware that I
> did anything special.   OK, strike number 2 above unless you get some
> voodoo witchcraft luck working.   At least the controller driver, and I
> discovered, VMWare love the new kernel, as does my  MB which had been
> resisting all efforts to be tamed.  Every kernel so far had something
> that broke something until now.   I'll try and see if I accidentally did
> something to keep my old kernel, but I rebooted with .31 before I
> answered this to ensure it still was really there, and it did and just
> to be sure, I am back on the new kernel.   Even the /lib entries for the
> .31 kernel are intactgo figure.   Maybe one of the openSuSE kernel
> guys will pipe in and tell us if this was a fluke or was by design.
> 
I don't doubt you at all, it could be something I did.

This is the contents of /boot:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  842872 2007-10-08 07:46 System.map-2.6.22.9-0.4-default
-rw--- 1 root root 512 2007-10-06 18:13 backup_mbr
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   1 2007-10-06 16:33 boot -> .
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   80417 2007-10-08 07:50 config-2.6.22.9-0.4-default
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root1024 2007-10-11 10:04 grub
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  27 2007-10-11 10:04 initrd -> 
initrd-2.6.22.9-0.4-default
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4315748 2007-10-11 10:04 initrd-2.6.22.9-0.4-default
drwx-- 2 root root   12288 2007-10-06 16:19 lost+found
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  389120 2007-10-10 23:58 message
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  138182 2007-10-08 08:29 
symsets-2.6.22.9-0.4-bigsmp.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  100801 2007-10-08 08:16 
symsets-2.6.22.9-0.4-debug.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  138222 2007-10-08 07:52 
symsets-2.6.22.9-0.4-default.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  136527 2007-10-08 08:23 symsets-2.6.22.9-0.4-xen.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  136574 2007-10-08 08:25 
symsets-2.6.22.9-0.4-xenpae.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  400506 2007-10-08 07:52 symtypes-2.6.22.9-0.4-default.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  116261 2007-10-08 07:51 symvers-2.6.22.9-0.4-default.gz
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2147342 2007-10-08 07:50 vmlinux-2.6.22.9-0.4-default.gz
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  28 2007-10-11 10:04 vmlinuz -> 
vmlinuz-2.6.22.9-0.4-default
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1593788 2007-10-08 07:46 vmlinuz-2.6.22.9-0.4-default

You can see that the only kernel I have is 2.6.22.9-0.4

and my menu.lst file contains:

# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Thu Oct 11 10:04:43 EDT 2007
default 0
timeout 8
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/message
##YaST - activate

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title openSUSE 10.3 - 2.6.22.9-0.4
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.22.9-0.4-default 
root=/dev/disk/by-id/cciss-3600508b100104b44414f365744360006-part3 vga=0x31a 
resume=/dev/mapper/lsi_jhicccaiaa_part2 splash=silent showopts
initrd /initrd-2.6.22.9-0.4-default

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe###
title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.3 - 2.6.22.9-0.4
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.22.9-0.4-default 
root=/dev/disk/by-id/cciss-3600508b100104b44414f365744360006-part3 vga=normal 
showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off 3
initrd /initrd-2.6.22.9-0.4-default

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title openSUSE 10.3
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz 
root=/dev/disk/by-id/cciss-3600508b100104b44414f365744360006-part3 vga=0x31a 
resume=/dev/mapper/lsi_jhicccaiaa_part2 splash=silent showopts
initrd /initrd

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy###
title Floppy
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader (fd0)+1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe###
title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.3
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz 
root=/dev/disk/by-id/cciss-3600508b100104b44414f365744360006-part3 vga=normal 
showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off 3
initrd /initrd

The entry for openSUSE 10.3 (the old one) points to the vmlinuz entry
which is nothing more a link to vmlinuz-2.6.22.9-0.4-default.

Go figure. I could go and install the original kernel along side the
latest and have both, but since I'm not having problems with the latest
I'll let it go for now.

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Re: [opensuse] HP3300 MFP (was HP M1005 MFP) [Solved]

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 10:52 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > 
> > for several ways how to do it manually - perhaps you like it more
> > to add the users who should be allowed to scan to the "lp" group.
> 
> This would seem to be a much simpler method especially for new comers.
> > 
> > 
> > > > The simplest solution is to use the saned and the net meta-backend
> > > > on your local host to access the scanner, for example via
> > > > "YaST scanner setup" -> "Other" -> "Scanning via Network".
> > > 
> > > This did the trick, thank you very much.
> > 
> > But the little drawback is that now scanning-frontends for root
> > will "see" the scanner twice. Once directly as "hpaio:..." and
> > a duplicate via the net meta-backend as "net:localhost:hpaio:..."
> > (compare the "scanimage -L" output as root and as normal user).
> 
> True, but I very rarely login as root. Most of root's work is done
> through su/sudo. And the side effect is I should be able to scan using
> my laptop without having to be physically connected to the scanner. :-)
> 

Verified, I am able to scan using my laptop with the scanner physically
attached to my desktop. And it was extremely easy to do using YaST.

I will say here that overall I am very impressed with 10.3. Sure I have
had a couple of problems, but they have been overcome with the help of
people on the list.

Hooray to the openSUSE developers.

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel update for 10.3

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 04:22 -0400, Richard Creighton wrote:
> Igor Jagec wrote:
> > On Sri, 2007-10-10 at 15:34 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> >   
> >> Noticed kernel update for 10.3 386 system and I am concerned that I
> >> will end up with a NON-booting system.
> >> 
> >
> > That concerns me either. I didn't know that SUSE updates kernel packages
> > rather then install new packages and keeps the old ones on the system.
> >
> > Is it possible to roll back the old one, or something, in case we really
> > end up with a non booting system?
> >
> > Fortunately, I didn't end up with a non booting system today, and nVidia
> > drivers works either, but you never know when that might happen.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >   
> You will be happy  to hear of two improvements with the new kernel:
> 
> 1)  It works!
> a) drivers that had stopped working for disk controllers now compile
> and can load
> b) it properly 'mkinitrd' to incorporate user supplied module into
> boot image
> c) it did not corrupt the MBR when installed as an update like .31
> did for me
> d) the HDA sound support works - I can change volume without loss of
> sound
> 
> 2) It leaves a copy of the previous kernel in place.

You might want to re-check this. I just upgraded to the new kernel and
it deleted the old one. The link to the "old kernel" actually points to
the new one. The new one just uses the full name instead of the link.

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Re: [opensuse] HP3300 MFP (was HP M1005 MFP) [Solved]

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 16:24 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Oct 11 09:50 Kenneth Schneider wrote (shortened):
> > Mine are:
> > crw-rw-r-- 1 root lp 189, 3 2007-10-10 20:00 /dev/bus/usb/001/004
> 
> When you set up the scanner unit with YaST, it runs
> /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/test_and_set_scanner_access_permissions
> which does some magic to determine the USB device ID and write it to
> /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/80-scanner.fdi
> so that the udev/HAL/resmgr machinery could do its magic to set
> an appropriate ACL for the /dev/bus/usb/xxx/yyy device file.
> 
> But the udev/HAL machinery doesn't notice changed *.fdi files
> in the running system, see
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218393#c28
> so that only a restart of HAL helps (or a reboot).
> 
> Or the magic in test_and_set_scanner_access_permissions
> may not work for your particular model so that there is
> no entry in 80-scanner.fdi. In this case see
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=Pine.LNX.4.64.0707040850200.22081%40nelson.suse.de
> 
> for several ways how to do it manually - perhaps you like it more
> to add the users who should be allowed to scan to the "lp" group.

This would seem to be a much simpler method especially for new comers.
> 
> 
> > > The simplest solution is to use the saned and the net meta-backend
> > > on your local host to access the scanner, for example via
> > > "YaST scanner setup" -> "Other" -> "Scanning via Network".
> > 
> > This did the trick, thank you very much.
> 
> But the little drawback is that now scanning-frontends for root
> will "see" the scanner twice. Once directly as "hpaio:..." and
> a duplicate via the net meta-backend as "net:localhost:hpaio:..."
> (compare the "scanimage -L" output as root and as normal user).

True, but I very rarely login as root. Most of root's work is done
through su/sudo. And the side effect is I should be able to scan using
my laptop without having to be physically connected to the scanner. :-)

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Re: [opensuse] HP3300 MFP (was HP M1005 MFP) [Solved]

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 15:19 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I didn't follow the whole thread but just picked up this snippet:
> 
> > Along these lines I have an HP3300 MFP and I can print from any user and
> > I can scan as root but I cannot scan as a regular user and can find
> > nothing regarding any special group or device perms.
> 
> I guess the HP 3300 MFP is connected via USB.
> Then "lsusb" shows its current USB bus and device number, e.g.:
> --
> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 03f0:a1b2 Hewlett-Packard 3300 MFP
> --
> and then the device file via which it is accessed is
> --
> /dev/bus/usb/002/003
> --
> and then "ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/003" shows its permissions e.g.:
> --
> crw-r--r-- 1 root root ... /dev/bus/usb/002/003
> --

Mine are:
crw-rw-r-- 1 root lp 189, 3 2007-10-10 20:00 /dev/bus/usb/001/004

> and then an appropriate "chmod" should help - but only
> until the device is re-connected or the system is re-booted
> because USB device files are created by udev on the fly
> for each boot and/or device connect.
> 
> As I don't see which Suse Linux or openSUSE version is used,

openSUSE 10.3 GM (sorry)

> The simplest solution is to use the saned and the net meta-backend
> on your local host to access the scanner, for example via
> "YaST scanner setup" -> "Other" -> "Scanning via Network".

This did the trick, thank you very much.

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Re: [opensuse] use 10.2 rpm's in 10.3? possible?

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 14:54 +0200, Clayton wrote:
> > Most of the packages I use are available for 10.3 (32bit). But some of
> > the packages (e.g. QtiPlot, kbibtex) aren't converted yet to 10.3 and
> > are still a 10.2 version. Is it possible to install 10.2 rpm's in 10.3,
> > without messing up my installation? What's the difference between 10.2
> > and 10.3 packages?
> 
> It's always possible, just sometimes not advisable. :-)
> 
> I've generally found that things only really go wrong with older RPMs
> built against much older libraries/kernel than are in your current
> version.  Of course it depends on the application and how deep it
> reaches into the system.
> 
> I run several applications on my 10.2 machine installed from RPMs
> built for/on 10.0 or 10.1 with no issues or problems at all.  They are
> not system level apps.. just handy apps I like to use from time to
> time.
> 
> As an alternative, you could rebuild the apps yourself on your 10.3
> machine (assuming sources are available) and use 'checkinstall' to
> generate an RPM (instead of 'make install').
> 

Or download the "src" rpm and build it on the 10.3 system.

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Re: [opensuse] HP3300 MFP (was HP M1005 MFP)

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 19:23 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> On 10/10/2007 10:45 PM, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 14:21 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> >
> >
> > Along these lines I have an HP3300 MFP and I can print from any user and
> > I can scan as root but I cannot scan as a regular user and can find
> > nothing regarding any special group or device perms. Any help
> > appreciated.
> >
> >   
> Did you setup the scanner via Yast?
> 

Yes. It works for the root user but not as a regular user.

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[opensuse] Kernel update for 10.3

[Kenneth Schneider]

Noticed kernel update for 10.3 386 system and I am concerned that I will
end up with a NON-booting system. Currently have bug number 331662 open
but there has not been any activity on it. I am currently forced to boot
to the repair part of the DVD (which fails) and then select boot
installed system in order for the system to come up. Since the boot
kernel I am currently using actually loads from the DVD how can I
proceed with this update?

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Re: [opensuse] Swap Software RAID 1 not working, SuSE 10.3

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 16:26 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 09:49 -0400, James Knott wrote:
> 
> > Mohsen Rezayatmand wrote:
> >>  I agree, it is not a good idea to Raid swap space, it is also faster if
> >>  you do not Raid the swap.
> >> 
> >
> > Given the main reason for RAID is fault tolerance, what happens if the 
> > drive 
> > holding SWAP craps out and it's not RAID?  Would that not tend to cause 
> > problems for a running system to lose everything in SWAP?  On a server I 
> > have 
> > at home, everything is on RAID 5, except /boot, which is RAID 1.
> 
> Yes, but it has been proposed to mount swap on a raid 0, and that doesn't 
> have any fault tolerance, rather the contrary, and it is slower than two 
> swap stripes. That is my point, that swap on raid 0 is not recomended.
> 

Why not use filesystem swap (using a file on the mounted partition) as
has been suggested a few times in the past? And it was also pointed out
that filesystem swap is fast like a raw swap partition. This would
effectively put swap on the raid set for the filesystem.

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Re: [opensuse] HP3300 MFP (was HP M1005 MFP)

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 14:21 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:


Along these lines I have an HP3300 MFP and I can print from any user and
I can scan as root but I cannot scan as a regular user and can find
nothing regarding any special group or device perms. Any help
appreciated.

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Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.3 box vs iso versions

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 19:36 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> -- Original message --
> From: Frank Fiene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Dienstag 09 Oktober 2007, arijit sarkar wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 10:02 -0600, Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
> > > > I have just installed opensuse 10.3 86_64 using the iso version. I
> > > > also ordered the box version from Novell which it has not arrived
> > > > yet.
> > > >
> > > > Q: is there any difference between the iso image and the dvd from
> > > > the box?
> > >
> > > website DVD-iso image contains 4.3GB softwares for 32/64 bit systems.
> > >
> > > boxed version contains 1 dual-layer DVD for x86 system and 1
> > > dual-layer DVD for 64bit system - 16 GB software and printed manuals.
> > > It also comes with 90-day installation support by phone and e-mail.
> > 
> > This is not correct.
> > 
> > I've opened the box and had a look on the DVDs.
> > 
> > DVD 1 is the installation source for both 32 and 64 bit, so in sum both 
> > single layer installation DVDs on one double layer i think.
> > 
> > On the second DVD (also double layer) is additional software and i will 
> > have a look what's the difference. I have seen java6 for example.
> > 
> > The complete capacity of both is round about 13.4GB.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Frankv
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> 
> What about the manuals?  Did they bring them back?  A family member is 
> finally tired of Windows enough to try and they would need them to start (or 
> call me at work for everything, due to opposite schedules).
> 
> 
> Thanks

They are available on the install media (I think) or the ftp site in PDF
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Re: [opensuse] No windows at or after login - Only text display after 10.3 clean install

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 14:10 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
> On Monday 08 October 2007 01:52:10 pm Aniruddha wrote:
> 

> > Try setting the video driver in xorg.conf to vesa. You can edit
> > xorg.conf with this command (if you have nano installed otherwise you
> > need to use vi):
> >
> > nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> 
> In cases like this where GUI was present during install it is also possible 
> to 
> get GUI using installation xorg.conf. Login as root and simply copy:
> 
> cp /etc/X11/xorg /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old

correct line should be:

cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-old

> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Rajko.
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Re: [opensuse] has someone experienced the same problem .... please readme

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 07:03 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
> On Sun October 7 2007 06:43, Anders Johansson wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 October 2007 12:33:17 Carl Hartung wrote:
> > > > > I  would like to install SuSE 10.2 on a desktop
> > > > > provided with a XEON processor
> > >
> > > Is this processor even supported? I somehow recall this being a
> > > problem...
> >
> > Um, yes. It's one of the most common processors in the world. Obviously
> > it's supported :)
> 
> It clearly isn't "obvious" to everybody, Anders. Maybe I've confused the 
> processor line involved in the prior issue, but I do recall having run across 
> that type of problem before.
> 
> Carl

I had a problem installing 10.2 on my XEON system with a SCSI raid
controller but the problem didn't show until the installer got to the
point of probing the hardware. It couldn't find the harddrive because of
a problem with qparted and the cciss controller.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 and evolution

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 17:08 -0400, Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 14:06 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > I have installed 10.3 on my laptop and have copied my .evolution folder
> > to the laptop but when I go to start evolution it has no knowledge of my
> > connections. What else do I need to copy over?
> 
>   Ken there is an answer for the required directories over on the Ubuntu
> list, but of more interest is that there is a backup\migration tool for
> Evolution floating around out there.
> 

Well I neither belong to or need to belong to any Ubuntu lists and no
tool was just floating around on either my desktop or laptop. WTF is the
reason for keeping both separated in the first place? It sure as hell
can't be security.

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Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.3 Binary Compatibility for SCO 5.0.5

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 13:55 -0500, Dave Grosvold wrote:
> Otto Rodusek (AP-SGP) wrote:
> > Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 01:42 +0800, Otto Rodusek (AP-SGP) wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I have a customer with SCO OpenServer 5.0.5 running PROGRESS 6.2 and
> >>> THOROBRED BASIC. I would dearly love to port to opensuse 10.3.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone had any experience (luck!!??) running SCO OpenServer
> >>> binaries on opensuse? Any recommended web sites or wiki's with
> >>> detailed instruction?
> >>>
> >>> Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Much thanks. Otto.
> >>> 
> >>
> >> The best solution would be for the programs to be ported to linux. Other
> >> than that there used to be a portability program that allowed SCO
> >> binaries to run in linux but it probably when the way of the dodo bird
> >> when SCO started their lawsuit.
> >>
> >>   
> > Thanks for the feedback. You're probably right and indeed that would
> > be the best approach. Unfortunately, there are too man apps and a port
> > would be beyond the cost that the customer is able to bear. Hopefully
> > someone with a similar issue has already solved the problem (wishful
> > hoping!!). Thanks. Otto.
> Unfortunately, there is no way to do this. I had a customer who was in
> the same situation two years ago.They had SCO 5.0.5 and Progress v6.2. I
> developed a custom application for them in 1991, and the app has run
> without issues for almost 15 years. I finally had to have them upgrade
> to SLES 9 (which was what was available at the time). and Progress v9.2,
> which is directly supported on SLES 9 and SLES 10.  I'm not sure if
> Progress will provide technical assistance for their products running on
> openSUSE. The primary reason for the upgrade was the aging hardware. SCO
> 5.0.5 didn't support most of the newer hardware, and my client was
> getting very nervous running the old hardware. They wanted a system that
> could be supported.by someone other than me if I was run over by a bus!
> Funny how that works...
> 
> -- Dave Grosvold
> 
> 

The answer to that is to stay away from buses. :-)

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 and evolution

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 00:05 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote:
> You gotto have your .gconf/apps/evolution folder also copied. (and
> kill/shutdown gconfd daemon)
> 
> -Srini.
> On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 14:06 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > I have installed 10.3 on my laptop and have copied my .evolution folder
> > to the laptop but when I go to start evolution it has no knowledge of my
> > connections. What else do I need to copy over?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Ken Schneider
> > UNIX  since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE  since 1998
> > 
> 

That was it, many thanks.

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Re: [opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.3 Binary Compatibility for SCO 5.0.5

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 01:42 +0800, Otto Rodusek (AP-SGP) wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have a customer with SCO OpenServer 5.0.5 running PROGRESS 6.2 and 
> THOROBRED BASIC. I would dearly love to port to opensuse 10.3.
> 
> Has anyone had any experience (luck!!??) running SCO OpenServer binaries 
> on opensuse? Any recommended web sites or wiki's with detailed instruction?
> 
> Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
> 
> Much thanks. Otto.

The best solution would be for the programs to be ported to linux. Other
than that there used to be a portability program that allowed SCO
binaries to run in linux but it probably when the way of the dodo bird
when SCO started their lawsuit.

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[opensuse] 10.3 and evolution

[Kenneth Schneider]

I have installed 10.3 on my laptop and have copied my .evolution folder
to the laptop but when I go to start evolution it has no knowledge of my
connections. What else do I need to copy over?

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Re: [opensuse] bcm43xx and WEP

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 14:43 +0200, fazer wrote:
> Hi eweryone
> 
> I have the same problem from 10.1 to 10.3.
> 
> I'm using WiFi with WEP encryption and not open but shared key
> 
> Right now I'm using ndiswrapeer to handle it.
> 
> Is  someone found solution how to use bcm43xx with shose kind of settings
> 
> P.S.
> Sorry about my english
> 

I have the same problem. The last time it worked was with Alpha6. 

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 RC1 installation confusion

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 13:35 -0700, Robert Lewis wrote:
> I took all the defaults after installing the DVD I d/l and cut.
> 
> However, the majority of the installation seems to
> be coming off the net instead of the DVD which
> is painfully slow.  Over 4-hrs so far and not even
> close to finishing.
> 
> I suspect I should have said NO to the early question
> about installation repositories.  Is this correct?

This is precisely why it is taking a long time. One of the installation
repositories is factory which has newer packages so they will download
from there.

> 
> If so why not reverse the logic so that the DVD is
> the first place to look for RPMS on install and
> get updates at the end of the installation.

It does, it's just that factory has newer versions.

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Re: [opensuse] PCI USRobotics FAX/Modem for Linux.

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 23:24 -0400, BandiPat wrote:
> On Saturday 22 September 2007, Fred A. Miller wrote:
> > 'Never needed to FAX much till now, so I've looking for a NON-Win
> > modem and found this one USR has made. It's a tad pricey, but should
> > work well, just in case someone else is in need of one. 'Ordered
> > tonight.
> >
> > Fred
> ---
> 
> And a PDF or word processing file won't do for them through email?  
> Almost seems a bit archaic to have to resort to fax on a land line 
> modem, doesn't it?
> 
> Lee

Wouldn't it be cheaper to just pick up an old fax machine?

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Re: [opensuse] Re: RAM

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 13:12 -0500, Jeremy Figgins wrote:
> I've seen a lot of "top" output thrown around on this topic and a bunch
> of  people have touched on this issue, but let me ask this question:
> 
> I'm sitting right now in front of my 1gig machine. I have my normal set
> of apps open: firefox, thunderbird, konsole, etc. How can I tell if I
> would benefit from additional RAM? What command and what output do I
> need to pay attention to?

free is a good command to use. If you notice a lot of swap being used
often then that would be a good indication of needing more ram.

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Re: [opensuse] how do i unsubscribe

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 15:28 +0200, Rolf Masfelder wrote:
> Am Freitag, 21. September 2007 14:39 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Friday, September 21, 2007 at 14:29:43, Michael Skiba wrote:
> > > Am Freitag, 21. September 2007 03:13:35 schrieb Aaron Kulkis:
> > > > Just how stupid are you?
> > >
> > > May I return this question?
> >
> > No you may not ;)
> >
> > Aaron is no longer on this list. I'm sorry but it seems that this is
> > the only solution possible. Sad but true.
> 
> You 'unsubscribed' Aaron? Did I miss something?
> 

Yes! You missed the email from Henne that rude and intolerant behaviour
will no longer be accepted on this list.

Bravo.

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Re: [opensuse] Best Disk Layout

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 12:43 +1200, Robin Klitscher wrote:
> My old desktop computer died in such a way that I'm faced with complete 
> reinstall(s) on its replacement, multi-boot including openSuSE 10.2, 
> starting from new disks, new everything.  Core 2 Quad CPU.
> 
> In searching the Net for advice on an optimum disk layout, all I've 
> succeeded in doing is confuse myself in trying to come to terms with the 
> often contradictory advice out there.

That's because opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one and
seldom are two the same.

You need to use what is best for _your_ situation not someone else's.

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Re: [opensuse] kio_ftp

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 11:05 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> When I use Konqueror or Krusader to connect to my GoDaddy account I get
> "too many connections error".  It seems that for every action I do on
> the server a kio_ftp process is spawned until the server just kicks me
> off.  
> Why is there so many kio_ftp connections?  When does these connections
> timeout? (I finally killed all the kio_ftp's and installed gFTP).
> I see in the KDE control panel under FTP, Passive connections is active,
> should I deactivate it?
> I would really prefer using Krusader instead of gFTP.
> 

I use kasablanca myself with the accounts I manage at GoDaddy. Would
prefer to use rsync but they do not allow it.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenSuse 10.2

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 10:15 -0400, Jonathan Arnold wrote:
> RTF wrote:
> > Re-hi all,
> > 
> > Last night I successfully (apparently) installed OpenSuse 10.2.  It was
> > getting late and I let it run its course when I went to bed.  This
> > morning it looked like the only thing I needed to do was set username
> > and password but for some reason, it wasn't working.  In the interest of
> > time and checking e-mail before I went to work, I went ahead and checked
> > mail via Windows.  Tonight, I attempted to boot into OpenSuse but was
> > confronted with the sign-on.  I tried what I normally would have used as
> > a root username and password unsuccessfully.  The same with my normal
> > username and password.  I have not set them but don't know how now to do
> > that?  Any clues?  It is installed but I have not yet assigned a
> > password for root (nor is root recognized without a password (which I
> > have not yet assigned) and I certainly have not yet assigned a regular
> > username and password.  :(
> 
> It's not exactly clear what you did, but it sounds like you just rebooted
> the computer while it was asking for the username/password for the first
> user. Not sure why "it wasn't working". So this means you have no user and
> no password. You can't log in as root from the graphical user interface,

Root CAN log into the graphical interface, you need to type the name
manually (as well as the root password).

> as it is generally consider a security hole to allow it.

It is considered to login ALL the time as root to be the security hole.

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Re: [opensuse] crontab problem? How to debug?

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 19:14 -0500, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
> Quoting Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On 9/14/07, Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Not incorrect, different. The path, and other environment variables, that
> > > programs running as cron jobs get are different that what they get when
> > > running normally. Whether this is a problem or not depends on each
> > > particular script, program, whatever. That's why some usually declare
> > > their own path inside the script.
> > 
> > well since the exact same script works from shell (logged in as same
> > user) but not from crontab ... then that would seem to suggest
> > somthing about the crontab env specifically, correct?
> 
> Cron runs programs directly, not thru the shell.

Ah, yes it does it uses a non-interactive shell. IIRC it uses bash by
default but you can specify the shell used with the hash bang directive
on the first line:

#!/bin/

And then specify other shell env settings to your liking.

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Re: [opensuse] PCI-e graphics card

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 13:21 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:
> On Friday September 14 2007, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > You also hijacked my thread! Please DO-NOT simply hit reply to ask a new
> > question, start with a NEW email. The simplest way is to click on the
> > list address in the To: field.
> 
> Yes, I'm sorry, won't do it anymore!
> 
> Ron

Not a problem Ron. A lot of people search the list archives and it just
looks screwy there. Plus some people on the list don't reply to
hi-jacked threads. A good way to reply to a posting on the list, since
you are using Kmail, is just hit the letter l which stands for
reply-to-list. This list is a very good source of info.

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Re: [opensuse] PCI-e graphics card

[Kenneth Schneider]

You also hijacked my thread! Please DO-NOT simply hit reply to ask a new
question, start with a NEW email. The simplest way is to click on the
list address in the To: field.


On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 10:55 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since I'm experiencing big problems getting my onboard intel i965G to display 
> 1680x1050 i consider to get a new graphics card.
> Now, does anyone have experience with some PCIe graphics card that is able to 
> display this resolution in Linux? Would be nice if the card was dual headed. 
> And it should be reasonable priced. :)
> 
> Thanks for suggestions and hints,
> 
> Ron :)
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[opensuse] find problem

[Kenneth Schneider]

Can someone explain the following "find" error. The "path" is specified
by the "." in the command line.

find . -name *copy_3* -exec rm {}\;

find: paths must precede expression

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Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 16:37 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 09:12 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> 
> > On 2007/09/11 14:39 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed:
> > 
> > > Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 
> > > you 
> > 
> > The correct statement is more than *15*, as 15 are supported by SCSI, while
> > 16 are not.
> 
> You are probably right.
> 
> It is fom 0 to 15, which makes 16; but the 0 is the whole disk. So it must 
> be 15 partitions.
> 

Wrong! sda0 is a partition as well as hda0 is a partition _NOT_ the
whole disk. The whole disk would be sda or hda (without the number).

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Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 22:21 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
> On Sunday 09 September 2007 21:37, Bob S wrote:
> > On Sunday 09 September 2007 06:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> ...
> > Thanks Carlos.
> > and for Rajko also
> > Here is output of fdisk -l /dev/sda
> >
> > Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
> > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> >
> >Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> > /dev/sda1   1130610490413+  83  Linux
> > /dev/sda21307326515735667+  83  Linux
> > /dev/sda332663527 2104515   82  Linux swap /
> > Solaris 
> > /dev/sda43528   1005552436160f  W95 Ext'd 
> > (LBA) 
> > /dev/sda535284180 5245191   83  Linux 
> > /dev/sda641814833 5245191   83  Linux
> > /dev/sda74834613910490413+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
> > /dev/sda86140744510490413+  83  Linux
> > /dev/sda97446   1005520964793+  83  Linux
> > EasyStreet:/ #
> >
> > I really hope there is such a tool. Otherwise I have an awful lot of
> > work/fooling around to do. That is what I meant when I said,in my original
> > post, I did a really dumb/stupid thing when I partitioned that disk.
> 
> OK. 
> There are 2 options. 
> 1) Run YaST partitoner and try to add more partitions, not to delete or 
> resize /dev/sda4 
> 
> 2) Run in console as root 
>   cfdisk 
> and see what it has to tell. In normal circumstances it doesn't list extended 
> partition at all. The space after 10055 cylinder should be explicitly listed 
> as free. So move highlight down to that line (free space) and try to add more 
> partitions. 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Rajko.

I don't think that will work as he has his extended partition ending at
10055 which is where sda9 ends. At this point his only option is to
backup sda5-sda9, delete them and then recreate the extended partition
using all of the available space. He will then be able to created more
partitions.

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Re: [opensuse] Intel 965G and 1680 x 1050

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 10:27 -0400, BandiPat wrote:
> On Sunday 09 September 2007, roN wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Has anyone gotten a resolution of 1680 x 1050 out of an intel 965G
> > chipset? I'm looking for that, out of the box, my opensuse 10.2 only
> > offers 1280 x 1024 which looks somehow wrong...I would appreciate if
> > some one could help me in a way getting my x-server to display 1680 x
> > 1050 pixel on my screen.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Ron
> > --
> > chEErs Ron
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Ron,
> I don't know if this will work for you or not, but it was a neat 
> solution to problems like this.  I'm not sure if xorg fully supports 
> that chipset and if not, I think Intel has a driver for Linux on their 
> site.
> 
> Try this first though.  In your xorg.conf file go to:
>  
> DefaultDepth 24
> 
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   8
> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   16
> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   24
> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubsection
> Subsection "Display"
> Depth   32
> Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubsection
> EndSection
> 
> Now just add your 1680x1050 resolution in front of each that begins 
> with "1280x1024".  Restart your X and see what you have.  Don't forget 
> to make a backup of your xorg.conf file too.  The above is from mine, 
> so yours may look a bit different.
> 
> regards,
> Lee

You also need to supply a line in the   Section "Modes" area as well.

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Re: [opensuse] compiz-fusion doesn't works !

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 02:31 +0200, primm wrote:
> On Sunday 09 September 2007 01:58, you wrote:

> wtf
> The guys at cyberorg call it the super key. Maybe it's time for supper.
> 
> Please do not send a message to the list and a copy to me. I'm a stupid girl 
> I 
> know. But I'm getting less stupid. Probably.
> 
> Love from Lynn

I wouldn't call you stupid girl, after all you're using linux.

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Re: [opensuse] FTP download of 10.3 Beta3 DVD ISO

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 10:01 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 11:20 +0100, Matthew Stringer wrote:
> > Anyone know of where this is available, only sites I've seen offer 
> > downloads 
> > via BitTorrent which will take ages.
> > 
> 
> http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/
> 

Should have added...

Download the delta iso and use applydeltaiso to the old iso. 

applydeltaiso   

I've been using this method since 10.0, downloads are much quicker and
applying the delta is certainly much faster then waiting for the
torrents to finish.

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Re: [opensuse] FTP download of 10.3 Beta3 DVD ISO

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 11:20 +0100, Matthew Stringer wrote:
> Anyone know of where this is available, only sites I've seen offer downloads 
> via BitTorrent which will take ages.
> 

http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/

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Re: [opensuse] modification of my email and real name in bugzilla

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 10:10 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Krupanský wrote:
> 
> > Hello
> > I want to change my email in bugzilla novell, but i can´t find where
> > could i do it.In preferences is nothing. Is it possible somehow?
> 
> No, Mozilla always uses the same email address and real name for
> everyone who use it. :-)
> 
> Of course you can change it - look under 'Account Settings'. 
> 

What has Mozilla have to do with changing your email address at
bugzilla.novell.com? 

I went through this my self last week and had the same problem. Once you
log in it's impossible to find a place in your profile to change your
address. What I did was start with the bugzilla home page which has a
link to your profile, login, hit the back page in the browser to get to
the link and then I was able to change the email address. Hope this
helps the OP.

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Re: [opensuse] Unable to Install OpenSUSE10.2

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 12:28 +0530, arun murali wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 7/16/07, Kenneth Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 06:31 +0530, arun murali wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > I'd try an FTP install to eliminate the idea of a bad DVD image.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise try a safe mode or text mode install.
> > > >
> > > > Matthew
> > > >
> > >
> > > This is the next thing i have in mind but i heard it takes a lot of
> > > time.
> >
> > I have been doing ftp installs for 10.3 on my laptop and don't find it
> > slow at all. You need to have the image on local PC though.
> 
> How do you keep a local image ? May be i will give it a try this evening.
> 

I keep the image on my desktop system, loop mount the image and use ftp
access it. Since it is on the local network I get the full 100M wire
speed. The only bottle neck is the 5 year old slow laptop, but hey it
still works and is good for testing the new release.

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Re: [opensuse] Unable to Install OpenSUSE10.2

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 06:31 +0530, arun murali wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 

> >
> > I'd try an FTP install to eliminate the idea of a bad DVD image.
> >
> > Otherwise try a safe mode or text mode install.
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> 
> This is the next thing i have in mind but i heard it takes a lot of
> time.

I have been doing ftp installs for 10.3 on my laptop and don't find it
slow at all. You need to have the image on local PC though.

>  Besides i am not sure if the system will automatically be able
> to detect and load my wireless lan card driver and use it. I had an
> issue with earlier linux i was using. Any how i will give it a try.
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Re: [opensuse] Google has an openSUSE repository

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 13:41 +0100, Kevin Donnelly wrote:
> On Sat 30 June 2007 21:17:19 Clayton wrote:
> > Don't know if anyone here is aware of this (it's not listed at
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories )
> >
> > Google has an openSUSE repository.  Full detailed instructions on how
> > to add the repo is here:
> > http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/suse102.html
> 
> I get a 404 Not Found from the suggested 
> http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/stable/i386 - http://dl.google.com/linux 
> doesn't seem to exist, which means that the instructions for all the Linux 
> distros will not work.  That makes me wonder about how well-maintained the 
> site is 
> 

This link is strictly  a YaST source and cannot be seen with a browser.
Once I added it as a source I was able to see the _two_ packages
available, whoopee! And neither was google earth. Seems Google needs to
do a lot more work first. Oh, and the two packages were Picassa and
Google Desktop.

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Re: [opensuse] Locked out of my software database!

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 23:58 -0400, John E. Perry wrote:
> Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> > On 2007-06-30 19:13, John E. Perry wrote:
> >> 
> >>
> >> (Thanks, Ken, I did know better than to follow Daniel's advice on kill
> >> -9, although I have in the past gone straight from kill to kill -9.
> >> I'll have to read up on kill to see what -1 is).
> > 
> > 1 is a HUP -- "kill -l" will print a list of all signals.
> > 
> 
> Ah.  So, using kill -l, I see SIGHUP, SIGINT, SIGQUIT, SIGTRAP, SIGABRT,
> and SIGKILL, all of which seem to be closely related.  So I still have
> some reading to do to understand it and know what to do (as opposed to
> following blindly the advice of people who maybe really know what's
> going on :-).
> 
> Wait a minute! there's no description of kill with no parameter.  and
> man, as usual, has no useful information.
> 
> More googling, I guess.
> 

I haven't typed in 'kill' by itself in a long time. It only takes one
mistake you know. 'kill' by itself IIANM will shutdown the computer or
at least that was what happened the one time I did it on a server with
200+ people logged in. One of those mistakes you tend to do only once in
your life time.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.2, desktop PC, disk being constantly written to. Any way to reduce it?

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 02:01 +0300, Tero Pesonen wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Tero Pesonen wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Richard Creighton wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> 

> >
> > No, nothing relating to Beagle is running according to Ksysguard. Also I'm 
> > quite sure I uninstalled it rather soon after I upgraded to openSUSE 10.2
> >
> > I checked again, and
> >
> 
> Here's an updated listing versus my oldder post, as it is actually ps -e 
> that shows all running processes. Looks like my typical KDE session save 
> ksysguard and kpowersave that were now running for testing purposes.
> 
>PID TTY  TIME CMD
>  1 ?00:00:01 init
>  2 ?00:00:00 migration/0
>  3 ?00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0
>  4 ?00:00:00 events/0

You might also try running top to see what might be hogging the CPU/IO
usage.

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Re: [opensuse] Locked out of my software database!

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 01:54 +0300, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
> 
> John E. Perry wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My opensuse updater suddenly started showing the yellow triangle with
> > the exclamation point a few days ago.  When I try to clear it, it exits
> > with the message "Another process is accessing the package database.
> > Package management cannot be used now."
> >
> > ps -e | grep ast
> >
> > shows only something called "master" running, so it doesn't appear to be
> > yast.
> >
> > I can't get either the updater or yast to run without rebooting the
> > machine.  What else could be locking the database?
> >
> > John Perry
> >   
> I've seen this happen, usually after having  done something under yast
> related to software management or update. This works, without booting:
> 
> As root -
> 
> Ensure that the updater applet is NOT running (well, it wouldn't be in
> your case)
> 
> ps -ef | grep yast
> 
> If you have a copy of yast running someplace, exit it , or kill it.
> (kill -9 )

Please do not use -9 except as a last resort. Using -9 tells the parent
process to exit without regard to any child process that may be running.
The best way is to just use kill . If that doesn't work then use
kill -1 , and if that still doesn't work then use kill -9 .
You'll leave yourself with a more stable running system that way.

> 
> ps -ef | grep y2base
> 
> Same thing.
> 
> ps -ef | grep zyp
> 
> You probably DO have a detached instance of zypper (the updater) running.
> 
> Kill it.
> 
> Re-run the starter applet. It should come up and start an immediate 
> update check.
> 
> I just did all this stuff half an hour ago.
> 
> I hope that helps,

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Re: [opensuse] Digital Camera support

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 14:27 +0100, jpff wrote:
> I am not sure what you are asking, but the system I hacked up to
> manage my wife's photography habit, at home and when we are away, is
> a small bit of emacs-lisp that reads the photos with gphoto2,
> constructs an html page with basic information (date/time; aperture
> etc) from the exif data, and constructs a thumbnail image to act as a
> link in the html.

Have you ever looked into using JAlbum? Does most of this and more for
you and has a linux port.

>   I usually travel with this laptop anyway,
> especially at conferences etc, but on pure holiday it is mainly for
> photos.  The system is completed with the gimp to crop, adjust etc.
> Her final stages are just usual emacs stuff; deleting, moving pictures
> to archive directories and editing the index.html file.
> 
> Still not sure what question you are asking though!


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Re: [opensuse] Errors sending to Opensuse@opensuse.org

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 07:57 +1000, John Bennett wrote:
> On 6/28/07, Anders Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 27 June 2007 13:34:02 John Bennett wrote:
> > > What's the go here? I'm not sending to anything like that address
> > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED])??
> >
> > Indirectly you are. The list server forwards your mail to all subscribers 
> > with
> > you as the sender, which means that if there's a problem with a subscriber,
> > you get the error message.
> >
> > Forward the error message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> But I only get it when I send from my Thunderbird client in Suse - if
> I send directly from Gmail it doesn't happen?

When sending from your Thunderbird client what address shows up in the
"From:" line? I don't use TB but with Evolution I have several email
accounts setup and can pick who the sender is.

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Re: [opensuse] fileserver box to box swap

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 17:49 +0200, primm wrote:
> Hi
> I have a fileserver serving /home via nfs to around 200 users on 20 clients. 
> This server also runs nis for user logins. Currently it runs 9.3. I have a 
> new box I'd like to transfer /home to and have it up as simply as possible. 
> Will the following work?
> 
> Install 10.2 on the new box. 
> cp -a the contents of /home from the old box to it eg from a usb removable 
> disk.
> Install nfs server using yast
> Install nis server using yast
> Copy /etc/passwd from the old box to the new box
> Copy /etc/group from the old box to the new box

Don't forget /etc/shadow.

Why not use rsync, that is what is it for.
Assign the new box a different temporary IP until the data is
transferred.

> Unplug the the network cable on the old box.
> Plug in the cable to the new box.
> Assign the new box the same IP
> Runlevel 3
> 
> Surely it's can't be as simple as that. How far away from the real world am I?

It can be that simple but make sure you keep the old box around until
you know for sure.

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Re: [opensuse] using mailing list with Evolution

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 07:54 -0400, James Tremblay wrote:
> Hey guys,
> Is there a way to use the "ctrl L" command without hijacking a thread or
> some other shortcut key to open a new mail to a mailing list?

"ctrl-l" is there specifically as a reply-to-list function. Why not add
the list address to your address book and use that in a _new_ message.
The other option is to just click on the list address in a message, this
will open a _new_ message for you.

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Re: [opensuse] Unsubscribe help

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 06:44 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to unsubscribe.  The system does not seem to accept my  
> reply to the unsubscribe message, even though I am copying and pasting  
> the unsubscribe address directly as instructed.
> 
> Help.

Well then just hit reply instead and it should just work.

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[opensuse] Linksys wireless

[Kenneth Schneider]

Currently using 10.3A5 and trying to get my wireless card to work.
Worked great up through 10.1 (skipped 10.2). The card is a Linksys 54G
card with the BCM4306 chipset. I have installed the firmware using
fw-cutter and can get the card to work if I turn off security settings.
As soon as I enable WEP (or any security type) I can no longer get the
card to work.

Any suggestions? Is this a known problem?

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Re: [opensuse] lost start menu in OpenSuse 10.2

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 11:42 -0600, Michael Folsom wrote:
> Folks:
> 
> For some reason when my 10.2 box comes up the start menu does not
> appear.  I have the bar across the bottom with a few icons on it but
> the start icon is gone.
> 
> This happened after an app hanged and I did a 
> to restart X
> 
> My guess is that their something is screwed up in gnome - any guess
> where to start?
> 

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Switch to KDE? :-

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Re: [opensuse] Raid 5 installation

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 07:46 -0400, Richard Creighton wrote:
> 
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> >
> > The Friday 2007-06-22 at 03:21 -0400, Richard Creighton wrote:
> >
> > >  > > controller built-in to the ASUS motherboard with the 4 SATA drives that
> > > board can natively control *without* having to use a 5th IDE or external
> > > drive just to boot the system>
> >
> > The ultimate goal should be to have the best raid 5 possible with the
> > hardware you have ;-p
> >
> 
> 
> ...I did.   In fact, in order to get the 5th drive to run my tests, I
> had to cannibalize an older RedHat system that is 'wounded' because  I
> lost a cpu fan and damaged the cpu chip.   I was going to replace the MB
> in that system at some point but now, I may also be short a drive having
> had to use it in what I thought was ample hardware;  A new ASUS system
> MB with 4 SATA drives and with a so-called hardware raid controller
> built-in to the MB.   As it turns out, that controller is a 'fake-raid'
> which borrows cpu cycles but still, with the hardware I had, under
> Windoze, the configuration would have worked (demonstrated), but I
> refuse to contaminate my system with that OS and I believe anything
> Windoze can do, Linux can (or should) be able to do better.

You are right that linux _should_ be able to do that same things that
windows does. The problem is the  s l o w  adoption by the hardware
providers in providing *proper* drivers for their hardware, like ATI and
Nvidia are trying to do. This will not happen until they get together
with the kernel developers to come up with a solution.

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Re: [opensuse] Oo Question

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 14:36 -0500, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> Pueblo Native wrote:
> > Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> >   
> >> On 06/19/2007 Dave Barton wrote:
> >>   
> >> 
> >>> Menu "Insert -> Picture -> Scan"
> >>>
> >>> If you mean OCR directly, the answer is no.
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>> 
> >>>   
> >> Thanks. I was afraid of that.
> >>
> >>   
> >> 
> >
> > Check out the ocrad package if you want to do OCR.
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> I checked with Yast and did indeed already have ocrad installed. It was
> the usual OCR disappointment.
> 

I use SimpleOCR running under wine with quite good results. You might
give it a whirl.

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Re: [opensuse] Desktop effects and CPU

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 14:28 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> My machine, openSUSE 10.2, AMD64 (32bit install ) 3200+ Beryl AIGLX,
> nVidia 6600, works fine.
> But; when I do really CPU intensive stuff, mencoder etc, all the effects
> become sluggish.  As I understand the effects are handled by the display
> card, so why the slowdown?
> 

And what feeds the data to the display card?

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Re: [opensuse] Help! RO File System Lock down OpenSUSE 10.2

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 09:05 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Here some HW details:
> 1. A 5 year old system that had win2K on it for 3 years and since then
> SuSE 9.3 and all the following. Here the problem occur with OpenSUSE

5 year old system = possible harddrive beyond its life expectancy.

> 10.2. It has an ASUS mobo with ATI Radion graphic card. 
> 2. A  2 year old system only had SuSE 10.0 that had the problem and now
> has WinXP without any problems. It's a Gigabyte mobo with ATI Radion
> graphic card. I noticed that intensive file access by Evolution caused a
> systrem lockup many times. 
> 3. The latest 1 year old system showed the problem mainly with SUSE 10.0
> and now with OpenSUSE 10.2. An identical system has SuSE 10.1, where the
> problem has till now not occured. It is a Gigabyte GA-K8N-SLi mobo with
> nVidia GeForce 7600 GS. 

Even newer systems come with a one year warranty on IDE harddrives. I've
seen new drives fail after only a couple of months of use includinf SCSI
drives which generally have a longer life expectancy.

> 
> The difference between the lockups of the SUSE 10.0 and OpenSUSE 10.2 is that 
> with 10.0 it did not allow any access to the system at all; a complete 
> lockdown - dead - only reset got it unlocked. The OpenSUSE 10.2 reports RO FS 
> problems by all applications. The system can be rebooted or shut down 
> normally.
> 
>  plus
> > information from /var/log/messages about what is happening when the
> > filesystem goes RO
> 
> I noticed on two different systems this sort of messages
> in /var/logs/messages:
> 
> Jun  2 22:15:03 kakalapap kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51
> { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> Jun  2 22:15:03 kakalapap kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04
> { DriveStatusError }
> Jun  2 22:15:03 kakalapap kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xef
> 

I only see these errors in relation to my DVD/CD drive (hda). Could this
possibly relate to your CD drive? If not I would suspect a bad cable.

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 23:46 +0100, David Bolt wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, James Knott wrote:-
> 
> >Bob Kline wrote:
> >> Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> 
>  I have the /home on its own partition, but I need to move it to the
> root
>  partition without losing data,
> >>>
> >>> I am not an expert but I was thinking if the following should work
> >>>
> >>> 1. To be on the safe side get out of x (ex: init 3) 
> >>
> >> Wouldn't it be even safer to boot from a live CD?
> >>
> >
> >As long as only root is logged in, init 3 is fine.
> 
> You can't guarantee that other users won't log in while you're busy
> doing the changes while in runlevel 3 or 5.

You can when it's your home PC and you are the only one that uses it.

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Re: [opensuse] Moving /home to root partition

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 00:01 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
> On Sunday 17 June 2007 23:01, Rajko M. wrote:
> 
> 
> >   init 3
> >   mkdir home1
> >   cp home home1
> cp -R /home/* home1
> >   umount /home
> >   mv home1 home
> mv /home1/* /home

mv /home1 /home   is correct. This is the rename incarnation of mv.

> 
> It is too late to make no mistakes :-(

But you just did :-)

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Re: [opensuse] bugzilla.novell.com ?

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 20:52 -0400, James Knott wrote:
> Per Jessen wrote:
> > Has anyone succeeded in accessing bugzilla this weekend?  I've been
> > trying all afternoon, and it's not really responding. 
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> Submit a report to bugzilla.  ;-)
> 

LOL. Good one James. Reminds of when I need to call my ISP to report an
outage and the on hold messages keep telling you to report problems on
their web site. You know the one you can't get to because you have an
outage.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 11:00 +0100, Robert Best wrote:
> > >
> > > It is a Speedtouch ADSL modem. Don't know about firewall
> > > capabilities.

The "firewall capabilities" used by most of these modems is called NAT
which stands for Network Address Translation ( there are other features
available ). What this basically does is prevent an outside connection
to an inside PC because there is no direct access via an outside IP
address to an internal IP address. When you request an outside
connection, lets say a connection to a web site, the modem automagically
provides a temporary connection for you and drops it when the request
has ended ( the web page has been loaded ).


> Don't understand. I use fish (or sftp, not ssh) to transport files in 
> the LAN which I suppose is in Internal, not External Zone. Port 22 is 
> never mentioned in these zones.
> I'd like to put the firewall between the LAN and the Internet.
> Currently I pull out the phone line from the router when I disable a 
> Firewall.

No need as the modem _is_ the firewall.

> 
> > In case that there are more problems that you encounter or you have
> > more questions, just do not hesitate to ask.
> >
> > This list has only one sole reason for existence: It is here to help
> > people achieve what they are heading for!!!
> 
> I was amazed that so many people responded to my question. Thanks to 
> all!

That's why we volunteer to be here.

> 
> > And Linux may not be easy, especially when you are beginning to
> > explore it, but chances are, you will never ever regret it.

As I said in an earlier email it's easy once you know how.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 20:34 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> 
> we will help you to get along. Don't despair
> 

> >> Congratulations!!!
> >> It's easy, isn't it?
> > 
> > No. Kenneth on this list learned me about the command ip a which is not  
> > mentioned in O'Reilly's Nutshell or the SuSE manual. Ch 21, Basic 
> > Networking in the Reference documentation should include info about how 
> > to find unknown IP addresses of computers in a LAN.
> 
> well, Kenneth's command works but I think, the more usual command for
> this is:
> /sbin/ifconfig

This command is being replaced by the ip command which is why I
suggested it instead. No sense teaching about commands that are not
going to be with us much longer.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 08:16 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:52 +0100, Robert Best wrote:
> > Eberhard,
> >it is not easy.
> > 
> 
> As in all things it is easy once you know how.
> 
> > On Saturday 16 June 2007 17:53, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> > > Robert Best wrote:
> > > > rwb:~> ip a
> > > > 1: lo:  mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
> > > > ..
> > > > 2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc
> > > > ..
> > > >inet 192.168.1.65/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
> > > > ..
> > > >
> > > > fam:~> ip a
> > > > ..
> > > >inet 192.168.1.64/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
> > > > with 64 instead of 65.
> > > >
> > > > rwb:~> ping 192.168.1.64
> > > > sends and receives packets
> > > >
> > > > fish://192.168.1.64
> > > > works !!!
> > >
> 
> For a simple lan use the file /etc/hosts to define your PCs.
> 
> # IP-Address  Full-Qualified-Hostname  Short-Hostname
> 
> First column has the IP address of the PC, the second column has the
> full name and the third is the short/alias name. In your case the lines
> would look like:
> 
> 192.168.1.64 fam.homelan.com fam
> 192.168.1.65 rwb.homelan.com rwb
> 
> The domain homelan.com can be different and is only used as an example.
> Your install will have something different by default. Also check the
> file /etc/nsswitch.conf for a line that starts with hosts: and make sure
> it looks like this:
> 
> hosts:  files

Sorry my cut-n-paste got chopped off, it should read:

hosts:  files dns

> 
> This will make sure the the PC uses the /etc/hosts file for local name
> resolution. Form any changes made to the /etc/hosts file they are
> automatically used without restarting anything or rebooting.
> 
> If you still have problems let us know.
> 
> As far as the ADSL Speedtouch it should suffice as a firewall for you.
> 
> Good luck,
> 

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Re: [opensuse] Re: simple LAN

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:52 +0100, Robert Best wrote:
> Eberhard,
>it is not easy.
> 

As in all things it is easy once you know how.

> On Saturday 16 June 2007 17:53, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> > Robert Best wrote:
> > > rwb:~> ip a
> > > 1: lo:  mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue
> > > ..
> > > 2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc
> > > ..
> > >inet 192.168.1.65/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
> > > ..
> > >
> > > fam:~> ip a
> > > ..
> > >inet 192.168.1.64/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
> > > with 64 instead of 65.
> > >
> > > rwb:~> ping 192.168.1.64
> > > sends and receives packets
> > >
> > > fish://192.168.1.64
> > > works !!!
> >

For a simple lan use the file /etc/hosts to define your PCs.

# IP-Address  Full-Qualified-Hostname  Short-Hostname

First column has the IP address of the PC, the second column has the
full name and the third is the short/alias name. In your case the lines
would look like:

192.168.1.64 fam.homelan.com fam
192.168.1.65 rwb.homelan.com rwb

The domain homelan.com can be different and is only used as an example.
Your install will have something different by default. Also check the
file /etc/nsswitch.conf for a line that starts with hosts: and make sure
it looks like this:

hosts:  files

This will make sure the the PC uses the /etc/hosts file for local name
resolution. Form any changes made to the /etc/hosts file they are
automatically used without restarting anything or rebooting.

If you still have problems let us know.

As far as the ADSL Speedtouch it should suffice as a firewall for you.

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Re: [opensuse] Q : Customization of live disc possible?

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On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 18:24 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all again,
>Just another quick question while I am thinking about it...
> Does anyone know if it is possible and if there is any documentation on how
> to modify the live DVD image to add your own software?
> 

There's quite a lot of software already there, what seems to be missing?

The main purpose of the live DVD is to test before installing so you
know the hardware is usable.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 01:23 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> Hi Randall Schulz !
> 
> Randall wrote:
> > The partition structure is independent of the type of file system
> > created on those partitions. I.e., it is not necessary to repartition a
> > drive (that's already partitioned) in order to install Linux.
> >
> It may be unnecessary to repartition on Linux-ready system, than
> already has ext partitions.
> 
> On typical Home Windows systems, when there is one single big 200 GB
> hard drive and 200 GB NTFS partition on it, like 99% of all world's
> Home PCs those days shipped, you _can not_ install a Linux on such a
> typical system without repartitioning it first.
> 
> Have you worked with _typical_ Windows systems ever ?

Yes, probably before you knew what one was.

There is a resize function within the install process to resize the
single partition without having to reload windows and then linux. That
is it's purpose, to give you a partition to install on.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 00:49 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> Hi Ken Schneider
> 
> read:
> 
> The primary advantage to this technology is no need to repartition a
> hard drive at all. A very welcome feature to win-noobs alike.
> 

No need to repartition anyway, just format with ext3. Besides there
might be licence issues. Of course it looks like you want both installed
on the same partition/filesystem. What better way to muck up linux.

This would do nothing more at the moment then turn them away from linux
because the NTFS-3G is not yet stable enough. There would be so many
problems it would give them more fuel to add to the FUD fire.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing openSUSE from Windows - new discussion

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 00:28 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> hi all !
> 
> I'm thinking - would it be possible to install openSUSE on NTFS
> partition, to prevent repartitioning, so more Windows users will be
> able to try out SUSE Linux ?
> 

Why? What is it that you find so fascinating with NTFS to have it as
native to linux so you can install on it? I actually find no reason not
to use one of the existing native filesystems. The whole purpose of
NTFS-G is to be able to share files (write) to a local disk when booted
in linux not so you boot to it.

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Re: [opensuse] simple LAN

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 08:12 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 08:06 -0400, James Knott wrote:
> > Robert Best wrote:
> > > Verner wrote
> > >
> > >   
> > >> fire up Konqueror and in the url line type:
> > >> fish://IP-of-that-other-machine-on-your-local-net.
> > >> 
> > >
> > > Both machines have the same IP 127.0.0.2 according to /etc/hosts
> > > The HOSTNAMEs are different, rwb.site and fam.site
> > > fish://127.0.0.2   gives my own machine rwb.site
> > > fish://fam.sitegives error, cannot connect
> > >
> > >   
> > 
> > Any 127.x.x.x is your local computer.  It is not another computer across
> > the network.  There has to be some other address.  A lot of people
> > running behind firewalls use 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x.  If you're
> > connected to the internet, there has to be some other address used,
> > beyond 127.0.0.2.
> > 
> 
> Use ip -a to see what address your eth interface is using.
> 

Sorry, it is ip a (no -).

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Re: [opensuse] simple LAN

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 08:06 -0400, James Knott wrote:
> Robert Best wrote:
> > Verner wrote
> >
> >   
> >> fire up Konqueror and in the url line type:
> >> fish://IP-of-that-other-machine-on-your-local-net.
> >> 
> >
> > Both machines have the same IP 127.0.0.2 according to /etc/hosts
> > The HOSTNAMEs are different, rwb.site and fam.site
> > fish://127.0.0.2   gives my own machine rwb.site
> > fish://fam.sitegives error, cannot connect
> >
> >   
> 
> Any 127.x.x.x is your local computer.  It is not another computer across
> the network.  There has to be some other address.  A lot of people
> running behind firewalls use 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x.  If you're
> connected to the internet, there has to be some other address used,
> beyond 127.0.0.2.
> 

Use ip -a to see what address your eth interface is using.

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Re: [opensuse] What Does This Mean For Our Future?

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 09:58 -0500, Stevens wrote:
> On Monday 11 June 2007 09:06, Rajko M. wrote:
> > On Monday 11 June 2007 08:59, Rajko M. wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for this.
> > I looked on mail content and thought it is offtopic mail list.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Rajko.
> 
> No, it isn't off topic, especially with Beryl and Emerald and the move 
> towards 
> more and more eye-candy. The fact that it is M$ doing this project only means 
> that the Linux world will be right in the middle of this technology very 
> soon.

Beg to differ but did someone ask for _help_ using this device? That is
what this list is for helping people. ANYTHING else IS OT.

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Re: [opensuse] How can I change the default printer for Firefox

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 07:28 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 11:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > 
> > The Monday 2007-06-11 at 09:45 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
> > 
> > > It should get the right one but at least you would have to restart
> > > Firefox I guess.
> > 
> > I restarted several times already. The firefox print dialog wants to print 
> > to the previous default printer every single time.
> > 
> 
> Try using lpoptions -d  as your user and see if it changes
> the default.

Just a follow up.

>From the CUPS manual:

Setting the Default Printer

Run the lpadmin command with the −d option to set a default printer:
/usr/sbin/lpadmin −d printer ENTER


The default printer can be overridden by the user using the lpoptions(1)
command.


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Re: [opensuse] How can I change the default printer for Firefox

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 11:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> The Monday 2007-06-11 at 09:45 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
> 
> > It should get the right one but at least you would have to restart
> > Firefox I guess.
> 
> I restarted several times already. The firefox print dialog wants to print 
> to the previous default printer every single time.
> 

Try using lpoptions -d  as your user and see if it changes
the default.

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Re: [opensuse] Flash Player 9 on SuSE Linux 10.0?

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 15:46 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone tried installing the latest (I think version 9 is the latest) 
> Flash Player browser plug-in for Firefox provided by Adobe? By that I 
> mean the one provided here (in both tarball and RPM forms):
>  
> 
> 
> 
> I'm curious and a bit dubious whether a generic RPM can properly 
> integrate with the existing (Novell- / SuSE-supplied) Firefox 1.5 on my 
> system. And I'm naturally not eager to use a tarball.
> 
> If anyone has experience with this, please let us know.
> 
> And if there's a forthcoming update to version 9 packaged by the SuSE 
> folks, I'd probably be willing to wait for that.
> 
> 
> By the way, if you're curious why I want this, it's so I can peruse 
> Google's StreetView (without having to go downstairs to my Mac).
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Randall Schulz

I have Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31 installed and I've used the Google
StreetView with Firefox 2.0.0.4 that was just upgraded via YoU. Works a
treat. I installed this back in January and think I installed using the
tar file. Nothing to compile and you can actually copy and link the
libflashplayer.so file by hand.

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Re: [opensuse] installation source

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 12:08 -0500, Dennis J. Tuchler wrote:
> Somehow, I am without an "installation source" from which to get
> updates. So says my updater. Is there a list of installation sources I
> can use?  I suppose I just lift one from that list and add it to the
> "update sources" list.  Right?
> 
> 

You don't mention the version you installed but newer versions require
that you "register" the system and it will automagically add an update
source for you. By the way to info you supply is minimal and does not
include any personal info.

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Re: [opensuse] Only root can use scanner on SuSE 10.2

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 11:49 -0400, Bob Kline wrote:
> Rajko M. wrote:
> > YaST setup is trying to configure equipment so that normal user can operate 
> > it. It can see your normal group called users and set all permissions as 
> > appropriate, but if you are logged in as root than it will be all set that 
> > only root can operate equipment. 
> >   
> 
> OK, I tried the following steps:
> 
>1. disconnected the scanner
>2. logged on with my normal user account
>3. started YaST
>4. gave it the root password
>5. invoked the scanner configuration screen
>6. deleted the entry for the scanner and clicked Finish
>7. shut down YaST
>8. re-connected the scanner
>9. started YaST again
>   10. gave it the root password
>   11. invoked the scanner screen again
>   12. YaST detected the scanner

At this point if the correct scanner is selected (I don't recall you
mentioning the brand/model) just click on finish. And as it has been
suggested by someone else check that you don't have the permissions set
to strict in /etc/sysconfig/security. Also check /etc/sane.d/dll.conf
and make sure you model is uncommented (remove the # character from the
start of the line).

>   13. selected the line for the scanner
>   14. clicked Edit
>   15. confirmed that the correct driver was selected

This should show on the first screen that shows the scanner selected.

>   16. clicked Next
>   17. clicked Finish
>   18. closed YaST
> 
> 
> I still can't see the scanner as a normal user.  Is this what you were 
> recommending I do?  Did I miss a step?
> 

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Re: [opensuse] Only root can use scanner on SuSE 10.2

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 09:30 -0400, Bob Kline wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > You should simply reply always to the list, which he scans (pun intended 
> > ;-) )
> >   
> 
> Sorry, isn't that what I did?
> 
> >>Well, I thought I had done that (as indicated above), but perhaps
> >>what I did and "let it get autodetected and configured by YAST"
> >>aren't exactly the same things.  I log into the machine as root, run
> >>yast2, click on Hardware, then Scanners, and I see it run through an
> >>unattended checklist ending with "Detecting USB and SCSI scanners"
> >>after which it shows a line with "plustek Canon N1240U/LiDE30 at
> >>plustek:libusb:007:002".  If I click on Other ... 

Why do you click on "other" when the detected scanner is shown?
Highlight the detected scanner and click on next/finish whichever the
choice is. By clicking on "other" you tell YaST that the detected
scanner is _not_ correct and you will manually select the correct
scanner. Or did I miss that the detected scanner is not the correct one?

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Re: [opensuse] Only root can use scanner on SuSE 10.2

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 16:49 -0400, Bob Kline wrote:
> M Harris wrote:
> > On Friday 08 June 2007 14:56, Bob Kline wrote:
> >   
> >> Thanks, that would be a perfect solution, except the group owner is set
> >> to root.  What do I need to configure to get it to be some other group?
> >> 
> > Is the scanner usb attached, 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > and do the devices get built dynamically?
> >   
> 
> Yes, but not at bootup time.  They're created when root invokes (for 
> example) xsane.
> 

Then don't have root invoke xsane, only invoke it as a user. I have used
xsane for a long time and never had a problem starting it as a user.

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