Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Bill D. Casselberry]

Anthony Farr wrote:
 
> But I reckon Steve Jolly's "90 in (his) 1975 Vauxhall Viva HC" took the
> biggest 'nads award.
 
I've never been much of a fast car sort, but back in the
early 90's I had a $250 1974 Chevrolet Caprice Classic
w/ the 400 cu in engine. It did have some get up & go, even
for such a heavy car. There's a several mile long fairly
good grade going over the Coast Range hills between here
and Corvallis (on I-5). I'd hit the bottom about 55-60mph
and run it up to about 95-100mph going up and it had quite 
a bit more it could probably do easily, but that was fast
enough for me w/ an old junker rustbucket!

Bill 

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Re: PAW - actually 8 pics

[John Coyle]

Arturo, you have nothing to worry about from me - they're all very, very
good!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "Arturo Medina-Chavez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax-pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:03 AM
Subject: PAW - actually 8 pics


> Hi,
>
> I've been tempted to submit something for a while. Two things prevented
> it, the consistent high standard showed every month on the PUG -which is
> kinda intimidating for a rookie- and the less than marginal quality I
> managed to get from 4x6 prints on my HP 4400c scanner.
>
> Now I mainly shoot Provia 400F -because of your comments- y and get the
> scans done by the lab, what a change!
>
> So, if if you feel like browsing some pix with a lite "fashion" taste
> pls. visit:
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=378189
>
> Setup: MZ-7 / ZX-7 body, SMC FA 28-80mm, AF330FTZ flash.
> I wanna learn, so comments/ critics welcomed.
>
>
> Regards from sunny Mexico City
>
> Arturo -under enabled- Medina
>
> ###
>
>
>
> PS
> THX to all PDML participants for such an enjoyable forum with an int'l
> flavor
>

Re: Special lenses for digital

[Anthony Farr]

A while ago one of our number experienced a ghost image in one of his *istD
shots, and asked what it might be.  It looked like a classic type of ghost
image that has been known since the beginning of photography, but some folks
here were adamant that it was caused by reflection from the sensor.  Of
course it was possible that it WAS from the sensor, but why look for a more
complex explanation when a simpler explanation - that the ghost image came
entirely from the lens or filter - already had a history as the source of
ghosting flare.  The photographer in question soon proved that an uncoated
filter was the cause of the problem by reproducing the ghost images
deliberately, and then noting the absence of ghost-imaging when the filter
was removed.  The 'It's The Sensor's Fault' chorus fell suddenly silent.

My feeling is that 'Digital Problems' are more likely to be some of the less
common occurences of camera-work that are being experienced due to the sheer
volume of shots being taken by new digital photographers.  The laws of
probability are simply catching up on them.

Admittedly, a shiny sensor can be the source of ghost images or scattering
flare, but those problems can only follow through to completion if the stray
light encounters substandard baffling in the mirror-box, or substandard
coating on optical surfaces.  We Pentax users have long been well served on
the last point, but it seems that time and progress has caught up on some
Other Brands who have been content to apply the lens coatings of their
accountants' choice.

regards,
Anthony Farr

- Original Message - 
From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Have any digital slr users experienced the sensor-reflection phenomenon
> referred to by Keppler?
>
> It's a bit worrying.  I have been buying up lots of cheap (but good) old
> Pentax lenses on Ebay in anticipation of buying a *ist D.
>
(snip)

Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Anthony Farr]

But I reckon Steve Jolly's "90 in (his) 1975 Vauxhall Viva HC" took the
biggest 'nads award.

regards,
Anthony Farr

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill D. Casselberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Dan Matyola wrote:
>
> > Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter.
>
> :^)   ... sounds like Dan takes the gold on this one!
>
> Bill
>

Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Peter Alling]

It's a nice composition Frank but I can barely tell she's a she.
The only question I have isn't exactly photographic in nature.
If the water's always polluted, and no one can swim why a lifeguard station?
At 05:52 PM 2/24/04, you wrote:
I've been trying to get a decent shot of this lifeguard station at 
Toronto's Kew Beach for some time now (Toronto has miles of beautiful 
beaches near downtown, but with the heat of summer, they're always 
polluted, so we can only look at the pretty water).

This may be the best of the old station I've gotten yet - ironically, a 
month ago, in the dead of winter.  I like what the red filter does to the 
sky, and the young lady relaxing on the picnic table adds, I think, I 
touch of whimsy:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2159925

Please let me know what you think (as always, the print's way better than 
the scan - oh well...).

thanks,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The 
pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer

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I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

RE: PAW - Hat and Beard

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

It looks like a display case? of sorts that is clear perspex and lit from
the inside.  You can see the reflection on his glasses and it is clearly
providing the lighting on his face...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 4:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW - Hat and Beard


Looks like an overexposed fringed throw pillow to me.

At 12:52 PM 2/24/04, you wrote:
> > Okay, in an effort to steer away from car threads and abstain from beer
> > threads, here's some dude with a hat:
> >
> > 
> >
>
>My goodness! It's Gandalf!! How cool!!!
>
>(with some awfully distracting trash-bag-lookin thing in the lower right
>corner -- what's that really?)
>
>ERN

I drink to make other people interesting.
 -- George Jean Nathan

RE: PAW - My first

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

Hey Bruce!  I should've known!  I didn't think that it would be "like" you
to miss something like that!

I do alot of that type of cloning too! Bra straps, pimples, been working on
a bride with a rash on her neck all day today! lol...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 3:30 PM
To: Tanya Mayer Photography
Subject: Re: PAW - My first


Hello Tanya,

In the photos I made for her, I cloned those out.  Of course, a major
hard drive meltdown a few weeks back caused me to lose those images.
I didn't feel like doing it again for this showing - more interested
in people's opinion of the overall effect.

Thanks for mentioning though.


Bruce


Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 8:26:28 PM, you wrote:

TMP> Hmmm, on second thought, I think I like the first one too!  Her smile
TMP> doesn't appear to be completely natural in the second one.

TMP> Still loving the effect of the fountain... very nice.

TMP> BTW, did you notice that her bra strap is showing?  (I am a stickler
for
TMP> fixing these things with my brides, so please don't take that as a
TMP> criticism, just an observation)...

TMP> tan.

TMP> Frank wrote:

TMP> I like her expression in the first one.  I like the water in the
fountain in
TMP> the second one (there's more of it).

TMP> They're both kind of cool.

RE: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

COMPLETELY OT, BUT everytime I see a post come through with this subject
line, I keep thinking you are talking about me! ie "Tan".  I keep seeing it
and thinking "what? I'm not Canadian!" lol...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 3:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan


Essentially ...

Albano Garcia wrote:
>
> The famous "expose for the shadows, develop for the
> highlights"?
>
> Albano
>
> --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Developing less ... Overexpose and Underdevelop.
> >
>

Re: PAW - Tanja

[Peter Alling]

That's very funny, great photo as well.

At 03:04 PM 2/24/04, you wrote:
I was in two minds whether to put this up. I know it's a bit cheesy but I 
restrained myself from going completely over the top.

http://www.muddypawz.net/dog_port/dp_00019.htm

There is some background to this shot (besides the black velour...;-) ). I 
had been booked to take a portrait of a lady's Shih-tzu and the resulting 
picture would be given as a present for her 9 yr old daughter's birthday. 
She then told me about a picture a friend had e-mailed her of a similar 
dog complete with tiara and said she liked the idea of "glam". I mentally 
cringed, but hey - it's work! I then went away and grabbed a couple of 
dogs and started experimenting with stuff and this is what I came up with.
Didn't get to use the set-up with the Shih-tzu in the end as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
thing wouldn't sit still. And it peed on my backdrop. :-(

Wendy
(Tanja wasn't really a willing subject, but suffered in silence, for my art)
Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

[Peter Alling]

It won't work, you can't make us unsubscribe you by throwing all our trivia 
back at us.
No way.  You're stuck here.  Forever...

At 02:27 PM 2/24/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --
>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>



> >
> >
>
> 
> End of pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 Issue #352
> *
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

Re: PAW - Hat and Beard

[Peter Alling]

Looks like an overexposed fringed throw pillow to me.

At 12:52 PM 2/24/04, you wrote:
> Okay, in an effort to steer away from car threads and abstain from beer
> threads, here's some dude with a hat:
>
> 
>
My goodness! It's Gandalf!! How cool!!!

(with some awfully distracting trash-bag-lookin thing in the lower right
corner -- what's that really?)
ERN
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

Re: WTB: K prime lenses

[Andre Langevin]

And aren't they offered regularly on eBay?

Andre

Aren't we all...

At 09:27 AM 2/24/04, you wrote:
Hello,

Want To Buy:
- SMC K 50mm 1:1.4
or
- SMC K 55mm 1:1.8
I am interested only in mint condition lenses, fully working, with 
no visual signs of use. I live in NY.

Best regards
Jerry
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan

Re: PAW - Hat and Beard

[Peter Alling]

Amusing...

At 10:26 AM 2/24/04, you wrote:
Okay, in an effort to steer away from car threads and abstain from beer
threads, here's some dude with a hat:




Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: This look dodgy to anyone? (WAS: Photoshop CS RAW Converter)

[Peter Alling]

It looks like a scam to me.

At 09:40 AM 2/24/04, you wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3662764632

Emailed the guy and he said:

Dear Sir / Madam,

This software can be registered with and upgraded by Adobe.

This is not an auction but a buy now listing for £16.49.

To order the software simply send £16.49 through your Nochex account to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Be sure to include the title of your order)

Your order will be shipped within 48 hours of reciept of payment.

Alternatively you may pay via Check

Sincerely,

Easy Traders

Almost worth a punt for that price, but I have severe doubts about it...

> -Original Message-
> From: John Mustarde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 February 2004 12:27
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Photoshop CS RAW Converter
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:43:04 -, you wrote:
>
> >Sshhh Mark - or you will be costing me a lot of money!
> >
> >I am desparately stopping myself downloading the trial CS because of
> >the UK price of the thing!
> >
>
> Phew! The price of Photoshop CS is really out of sight.
>
> I started with a used but legal copy of PS 3.0 way back when,
> and paid for upgrades 4.0, 5.0, free 5.5 I think, and 6.0.
>
> I figure I have paid Adobe about the cost of an MZ-S for
> Photoshop over the past few years.  Now they want me to
> operate some OS newer than my old standby Win98 just to be
> able to use CS.  What a hassle.
>
> I for one am shopping for a less expensive alternative.  The
> idea of paying Adobe through the nose again for another
> upgrade is starting to tick me off.
>
> --
> John Mustarde
> www.photolin.com
>
>
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

Re: WTB: K prime lenses

[Peter Alling]

Aren't we all...

At 09:27 AM 2/24/04, you wrote:
Hello,

Want To Buy:
- SMC K 50mm 1:1.4
or
- SMC K 55mm 1:1.8
I am interested only in mint condition lenses, fully working, with no 
visual signs of use. I live in NY.

Best regards
Jerry
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

Re: GFM info -- I'm Coming!

[Stan Halpin]

Good news! Should be a good weekend - well worth the trip.

Stan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay, batten down the hatches and hide the booze*, Marnie aka Doe is coming 
to GFM!

Well, I am mailing off the registration fee tomorrow by express mail, so if 
it gets there in time, that is.

I'll be staying at night off mountain, because I feel I am not up to camping 
anymore. Cold ground, stiff knees.

This should be a kick.

Marnie aka Doe  (*Actually, I don't drink. Or I don't drink very often or 
very much when I do. ;-) So your booze is safe.)

Re: Too much mail

[Peter Alling]

Ann, you don't have to unsubscribe the list will do it for you.

At 09:10 AM 2/24/04, you wrote:
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
>   But Ann, Raimo said nothing about the PAW being the
> cause of the list being too busy, did he?  I noticed he pout
> up a link to his photography page as well.
>
>
I guess I feel I have to look if it is a picture
and if it is WHISKEY
or SPORTS CARS I can delete without guilt.  :)
Posting pics to one picture on a site where one
sees the picture only and not
a zillion banner ads would be useful too.
I just can't go look at the pictures myself right
now.  and If I went away
for two days I'd have to unsubscribe because the
server would bounce my mail.
So don't anyone's feelings be hurt if I don't
respond to comments to me
90% of the time I don't know they have been made
until I see someone else
referring to it by chance.
I jsut cant cope kids
have fun
ann
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Shel Belinkoff]

Frank,

Dogs make excellent background subjects in many photographs,
especially jumping dogs.

Yours in Tri-X

frank theriault wrote:

> but then I got distracted by a dog (a dalmation against the snow -
> thought it might look interesting), shot a couple of him, then I was off on
> something else, and forgot about the lifeguard station after that.

Re: Reala rated at 80

[Peter Alling]

Don't worry we won't...

At 09:10 AM 2/24/04, you wrote:

Sorry... of course the ISO scale is a sort of geometrical progression. I've
computed the half stops as for an arithmetic one :-(
The worst part is that I didn't bother to check on my camera (which can set
the film speed in
1/3 stops increments).
So, please - next time I'll say something, don't believe me.
Alex Sarbu

- Original Message -
From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Reala rated at 80
>
> Alex Sarbu wrote:
>
> > Well... rating an ISO 100 film at ISO 80 doesn't
> > means 'overexposing by 1/5 stop ...
>
> Correct
>
> > ... but by 0.4.
>
> Wrong.
>
> The right value is log2(100/80), or 0.322 (approximately)
>
> > ISO 50 is 1 stop,
>
> Correct
>
> > ... and ISO 75 half stop lower than ISO100.
>
> Incorrect.  ISO 75 is about 0.4 stops lower than ISO 100.
> Half a stop lower than ISO 100 is ISO (100/sqrt(2)), or roughly ISO 70
>
>
>
> ---
> Cauta-ti perechea pe http://dating.acasa.ro
>
>




---
Cauta-ti perechea pe http://dating.acasa.ro
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

Re: PAW

[Bruce Dayton]

Bill,

Can you share a bit more info?  The shot is intriguing to me.


Bruce


Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 8:50:24 PM, you wrote:

WR> My humble contribution for this week.

WR> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/IMGP2449ni.html

WR> My intention is to produce a new photograph each week for this
WR> project.
WR> This was shot last Sunday.
WR> I am sure there will be more of this model in the future.

WR> William Robb

Re: PAW - My first

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Tanya,

In the photos I made for her, I cloned those out.  Of course, a major
hard drive meltdown a few weeks back caused me to lose those images.
I didn't feel like doing it again for this showing - more interested
in people's opinion of the overall effect.

Thanks for mentioning though.


Bruce


Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 8:26:28 PM, you wrote:

TMP> Hmmm, on second thought, I think I like the first one too!  Her smile
TMP> doesn't appear to be completely natural in the second one.

TMP> Still loving the effect of the fountain... very nice.

TMP> BTW, did you notice that her bra strap is showing?  (I am a stickler for
TMP> fixing these things with my brides, so please don't take that as a
TMP> criticism, just an observation)...

TMP> tan.

TMP> Frank wrote:

TMP> I like her expression in the first one.  I like the water in the fountain in
TMP> the second one (there's more of it).

TMP> They're both kind of cool.

Re: PK mount lenses

[Sung Nee]

At 12:26 25/02/04, you wrote:
Is is only the "head" of the lens that you attach?
Yes.

>>What lens is it?<<

A 1937 90mm/F4 lens from Leica.

Best regards

Sung Nee 

Re: PK mount lenses

[Sung Nee]

>>could you post any of the pics<<

I took one but it's been heavily manipulated, so the original quality 
doesn't show any more. I'll take some new ones.

Best regards

Sung Nee 

RE: in da streets

[Cesar Matamoros II]

tv,

Maybe we can make it part of our world tour!!!

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

P.S. The only time I have been in South America has been visiting family in
Peru...

-Original Message-
From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:47 PM

Next winter, I swear!

> -Original Message-
> From: Albano Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:42 PM
>
> It would be a pleasure to be your guide.
> Just tell me when you come ;-)
> Regards
>
> Albano
>
>
> --- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Albano Garcia
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a self-portrait (I'm the taller at left),
> > with two
> > > friends in the rough streets of Boedo, in Bs As.
> >
> > I really need to take a trip to Bs As.
> >
> > tv
> >
> >
>
>
> =
> Albano Garcia
> "El Pibe Asahi"

Re: GFM info -- I'm Coming!

[Eactivist]

Okay, batten down the hatches and hide the booze*, Marnie aka Doe is coming 
to GFM!

Well, I am mailing off the registration fee tomorrow by express mail, so if 
it gets there in time, that is.

I'll be staying at night off mountain, because I feel I am not up to camping 
anymore. Cold ground, stiff knees.

This should be a kick.

Marnie aka Doe  (*Actually, I don't drink. Or I don't drink very often or 
very much when I do. ;-) So your booze is safe.)

Re: Zooms, was Re: 24-50s

[Bruce Dayton]

For me, constant 2.8 is important.  I find that many receptions are
quite dim, and focusing is a bit tougher.  Also, the DSLR 1.5 factor
does alter things a bit.  A constant aperture 2.8 24-90 would be nice.

Bruce


Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 6:39:03 PM, you wrote:

MR> "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> What mystifies me about zooms is that there is no 35 to 100 or 120
>>> to be had.  That would, seemingly, be a wedding pro's dream zoom.
>>
>>Seems to me a 28-105 covers that range quite nicely.

MR> Nikon's 24-120 is reportedly a big seller (and very popular with the
MR> wedding shooters). There are a couple of options in the 24-135 range,
MR> too (Sigma, Tamron).
MR> And the Pentax 24-90 is in the ballpark, too :)

Re: San Diego by night

[Peter Alling]

I'd have gone for a darker sky.  One of the secrets of night photography as 
taught
to me by an old news photographer is to bracket by 2-4 stops rather than 1 
or 1/2
stop increments.

At 02:14 AM 2/24/04, you wrote:
I read a few books and watched postings to try learn the tricks of doing
these long night exposures.
Amateur as I am, but eager to learn from the myriads of those clearly less
amateur than I, I'd love
to receive your advice on what to do better.
Weather was "muggy", temperature mid-50's (bl...y cold for San Diego), PZ-1P
with (old) Takumar
135mm F2.5, and velbon tripod, F8 for ~8secs on Fujicolor 200
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2157930
I also wanted to tell those who may venture to this area, that this was just
so easy to get to, behind the Il Fornaio restaurant on Coronado, is a path
with splendid views of downtown SD just waiting to tickle your silver cells.
All comments welcome.
Thanks
Ian
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

Re: 24-50s

[Fred]

>> The A 24-50 is a constant f/4 and has the A contact, and seems to
>> be built nearly to the M 24-35 standard, _much_ better than the A
>> 35-70, for instance, in terms of build quality.

> Ironically, I find the A35-70 to be a much better lens optically.

The A 35-70/4 is surprisingly good optically, but I do have to admit
that it's the most "plasticky" lens I own.

Fred

Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Shel Belinkoff]

Essentially ... 

Albano Garcia wrote:
> 
> The famous "expose for the shadows, develop for the
> highlights"?
> 
> Albano
> 
> --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Developing less ... Overexpose and Underdevelop.
> >
>

Re: Zooms, was Re: 24-50s

[Fred]

> As well as the A28-135/4.  A tank of a lens, but a good performer
> by most accounts.

And my favorite as a wedding lens...

Fred

Re: Whisky (was Re: PAW: A good breakfast)

[Peter Alling]

This sounds like a recipe for disaster, whisky and high performance 
automobiles...

At 02:11 AM 2/24/04, you wrote:
John Forbes a écrit:

We could, except that mine's an Alfa Romeo, and it is already too well 
known to the speed cameras.
Pentax, Alfa-Romeo and Lagavulin, I agree
I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan  

Re: Whisky (was Re: PAW: A good breakfast)

[Stan Halpin]

It is the Irish in me. Which is more evident when I have 
Scotch in me.

Cheers!

stan

Cotty wrote:

On 23/2/04, STAN THE POET disgorged:


Laphroaig anyone? In honor of this thread I have opened a 
bottle which I am sipping neat, of course. The only water in 
my Whisky are the tears I shed as this golden sunshine warms 
my frozen heart...




Where's my hanky?  :-)

Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: PAW - My first

[wendy beard]

At 10:41 PM 24/02/2004, you wrote:

Seeing how there have been several comments on having the bride look
up rather than down, I have posted to the same web page, the other
version of this basic pose with her looking up.
You can see both images and let me know if you think the second image
is more to your liking.
Here is the page again:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/paw.html
I like the first better with her looking down. More serene and in keeping 
with the mood of the soft focus.
I don't like the background though (the fountain). It looks really weird. 
Like they're in the hall of mirrors.

Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com 

RE: PAW: in da streets

[frank theriault]

Albano,

Looks like a car I used to own.  Really.  A 1972 Toyota Corolla.  With about 
that much rust.  But, it had all it's wheels when I drove it.

Cool shot, BTW.  You and your buddies look like quite the street toughs!  
LOL

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Albano Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PAW: in da streets
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:09:28 -0800 (PST)
This is a self-portrait (I'm the taller at left), with
two friends in the rough streets of Boedo, in Bs As.
It's taken at about 1 am. The car was carried away
yesterday, so I took it just in time.
This is scanned from a 2x3 inch proof print, so
quality is not at its best (but the scanner did a good
job anyway. I'm using an Agfa Arcus II, an old flatbed
with good performance).
Exposure about a couple of seconds, camera sitting on
a window.
All comments welcome.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2159188&size=lg

Regards



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RE: Screwheads and collectors

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Nigel is very responsive.  There were a couple of questions about some gear
I submitted.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Bob Rapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:55 AM

The site is in its infancy. Originally, Nigel was interested in bodies only
then added the lenses. He is very keen and will improve the site over time.

Bob
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:41 PM

> On 24 Feb 2004 at 21:07, Bob Rapp wrote:
>
> > Take time out to add you equipment to the growing list of Pentax
screwmount
> > cameras and lenses. Also, you can view where your equipement falls in
the S/N
> > ranges.
> >
> > http://www.m-fortytwo.info/firstpage.htm
>
> Looks pretty good although they could use a hand from JCO filling out the
> equipment pics :-)
>
>
> Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
>

RE: I did a bad thing

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Tanya,

I did it from a kit from http://cameraleather.com.  Look at
http://cesar_abdul.home.mindspring.com/LX_skin.html for the details.

I have thought about reskinning another of my cameras.  They are
distinctive.  Actually I thought about making my own template and skinning
my own from other sources.  I am going to have the leather seats of my car
redone, I may ask about keeping the old covers and using it for a couple of
cameras, if the thickness is right.

Looking at the *ist D though, I cannot see how to remove the 'leatherette'
easily.  I do not volunteer mine for a trial run, but you do have me
thinking.

I may just do my 645n to see tv really shrink away from it.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

P.S.  Is this personal enough for you -
http://cesar_abdul.home.mindspring.com/personal.jpg?  This is on my MZ-5.
The bokehed camera is my MX...

-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:58 PM

Ok, so SERIOUSLY here - you know how Cesar had his LX's "skinned"  Does
anyone know - could you do a similar thing with an *istD???  I would love to
get something funky and fairygirl-esque done to mine! Where would I go, and
how would I go about doing such a thing?

tan.

RE: Screwheads and collectors

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Been there, done that.

Easier to do than with my K-mount gear :-)  Or my Nikon or Nikonos...

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Bob Rapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:07 AM

Take time out to add you equipment to the growing list of Pentax screwmount
cameras and lenses. Also, you can view where your equipement falls in the
S/N ranges.

http://www.m-fortytwo.info/firstpage.htm

Bob Rapp

Re: My PAW (Week 2) - Street at night

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Andy,

I like night shots and this one is quite nice.  The composition is
good, like the vertical, usually see  horizontals.  The exposure seems
just about right for the background buildings and sky, which causes
the street and streaking cars to be quite bright.  I like the star
effect on the street lights.

Nice!


Bruce


Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 5:35:13 PM, you wrote:

AC> http://ecoli.idv.tw/photo/street.jpg

AC> This one was taken last year when I first got my Olympus 5050. Never
AC> tried a proper night scene before so I got on top of the roof of my
AC> office and took this pic.

AC> Cheers

AC> Andy

Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[frank theriault]

Shel,

Just looked at the contact sheets, and I took 3 shots of the lifeguard 
station that day.  They were from three completely different angles, so it 
wasn't a matter of getting many similar but slightly different shots.  I 
remember now that I was walking around the building, thinking that I'd take 
a bunch, but then I got distracted by a dog (a dalmation against the snow - 
thought it might look interesting), shot a couple of him, then I was off on 
something else, and forgot about the lifeguard station after that.

I took 2 rolls in total that day.

Since you asked...

But, I understand what you're saying.  I need more discipline sometimes, and 
I don't mean getting distracted by spotted dogs and the like.  And I don't 
mean on this particular day.  I just mean generally when it comes to 
photography.  I just have to figure out when to be disciplined, and when to 
be spontateous, because (if I may be momentarily immodest) I think that much 
of my best work is done when I'm being spontaneous.  But, I have to learn 
how to balance the two.

Thanks for the advice and help;  it's much appreciated.

cheers,
frank


"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:24:56 -0800
Hi Frank,

The snow and the sunbather are the two elements that add
some special interest to ~this~ shot, ~this~ visit.
If you recall, I asked if you'd read On Being a
Photographer.  In the book there's a description of just the
sort of situation you encountered, although it was on a
beach in the summer.  The example used was Harry Callahan's
photo, Cape Code, which, like your shot of the lifeguard
station, is a very simple image.  It shows a volleyball net
on the beach with the sea in the background.  Nothing could
be simpler, nor more static.  To many people the impression
might be that Callahan was wandering around, saw the scene,
and made a quick snap.  In reality, by looking at the
contact sheet (something to be said for contact sheets here,
but that's for another time) we find that he shot eleven
frames, all from slightly different angles and perspectives.
Now, I don't know how many frames you exposed on the day you
took this pic.  I don't know if you went to the scene
specifically to photograph the station, or if it just
happened that you ended up there at that time.  I applaud
you going back numerous times to photograph the place.
That's good.  But, I must ask ... how many frames did you
expose on the day you made this pic?  How many different
angles and positions did you try?
I took a workshop with Baron Wolman a few years ago, and he
suggested making lots of exposures even if the scene hasn't
changed much.  After the workshop I met Steve Larson and we
went to the santa barbara zoo.  There I saw a man holding
his young son on his back, so the boy could get enough
height to see the elephants marching around in their
compound.  I took the most mundane point of view, from their
back, and shot an entire roll of film of the man and his
son.  Afterwards I made 5x7 proof prints of every frame,
laid them out on the floor so i could see every one of them,
and looked them over.  The differences between each frame,
as you may suspect, were slight - very slight.  A small
movement in a hand, a tilt of the boy's head, the way the
father's fingers interlocked ... you get the idea.
>From that simple exercise of a "nothing" scene, it became
clear that not only were some shots way better than others,
but that there was a decent photograph in the bunch after
all.
OK, on to other things,

Kind Regards from the Depths of Despair,

shel

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Re: PAW - My first

[Bruce Dayton]

Seeing how there have been several comments on having the bride look
up rather than down, I have posted to the same web page, the other
version of this basic pose with her looking up.

You can see both images and let me know if you think the second image
is more to your liking.

Here is the page again:
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/paw.html

Thanks for the feedback so far.  Certainly this type of shot is not
one you want more than one or two per wedding.  It does make the price
of a soft focus lens be pretty high for the number of shots it would
be used for.

In my present equipment situation, I don't have a soft focus lens
anymore.  In the 67 format, the 120mm was a good compromise focal
length.  In 35mm, Pentax has a 28 or 85.  For *istD, neither is very
ideal.


-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 5:35:31 PM, you wrote:

Eac> In a message dated 2/24/2004 4:27:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
Eac> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eac> Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ok, here is my first one.
>> 
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/paw.html

Eac> Very nice, Bruce!

Eac> Bet they liked it. The only thing I'd want different is to have her looking
Eac> up -- I'd like to see her eyes.

Eac> A wedding shot should be romantic and it has a soft, romantic feel -- the
Eac> combination of the luminous light and the soft focus. Very romantic. ;-)

Eac> Marnie aka Doe  

RE: Whisky (was Re: PAW: A good breakfast)

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Cotty,

Will you have recovered from GFMtn by then?

Hmmm, maybe I can take the trip over for this one...  Looks like I will not
be able to make it across the pond before then.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:00 AM

On 23/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>I'm only in London half the time right now, but if you happen to hit the
>right half then I'd be interested.  (Well, I'd be interested anyway but
>you know what I mean...)  Late May (as suggested by Keith elsewhere)
>would probably be good.
>
>If you want suggestions, I know a number of good real-ale pubs in West
>London... :-)

Late May sounds fine.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PK mount lenses

[Sung Nee]

I have finally managed to "uncover" the 2 pictures of attaching a Leica 
screw mount lens to the Sigma SD10 via a PK mount, in the Leica Gallery: 
http://www.leica-gallery.net/sngl.

The images have been double-posted because I didn't how to do it properly 
at first. They are called line-up.jpg and complete.jpg.

Best regards

Sung Nee  

Re: Too much mail

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Brogden"
Subject: Re: Too much mail


> On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Cotty wrote:
>
> > >Who has noticed that the most frequent posts are now from people
> > >complaining about too many posts.
> >
> > I'd like to complain about the people complaining about too many
posts.
>
> That's okay, Cotty.  The people responsible for sacking the people
who
> complained have just been sacked.

Thats okay, Chris.  I've been told Dinsdale Piranha nailed your head
to the floor.

WW

Re: Ice Race - First Photos

[frank theriault]

Dave,

His real name is Jonathan, and if need be, I can let you know who he works 
for - like if he owes you a door mirror or something .

(Door mirrors are a favourite target for bike couriers - 'nuff said on that 
topic )

Glad you enjoyed them, Dave.  I just hope some of the b&w ones from the 
after-party turned out.  I think I may make more from the payoffs of those 
who don't want certain images to see the light of day, than I will from 
actual sales.

Speaking of sales, I wasn't going there with the idea of selling anything, 
but several approached me during and after, and want to see the contacts, so 
one never knows, eh?

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ice Race - First Photos
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:43:39 US/Eastern
I think Tofu and i have "run into "each other near Queen and Bay during my 
Hydro One plan
runs.
The glove looks familiar,LOL
Nice shots Frank

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RE: Whisky

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Tanya,

Though Bill has his homebrew and others add their concoctions, it is not as
many think.  No drunkfest.  Especially if you are 'gate boy' :-)

And to be quite honest, I cannot recall a camera-shy person in the PDML
group.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:54 PM



Beware GFM'ers - there will be a sober person around WITH camera, and a
DIGITAL one at that - no film limitations to worry about... lol!

tan (who NEEDS to be working but is seriously procrastinating...)

RE: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Cesar Matamoros II]

I usually took my older Mustangs to 100 mph to clean out the carbon on
occasion.  They were from 1965-1967.  The '67 was a 6 cylinder.

My '96 Mustang Cobra convertible I have gotten to 100mph while passing in
3rd gear with the top down.  Try not to do that too often, the police look
out for cars like mine.  Cruise control is a wonderful thing.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:25 PM

>
> My personally driven top speed is a more modest 105mph in my first car

I've done 120mph or more in three cars:

 o  A Bentley R-type (on the A127 coming back from Southend).
I started out running at around 80mph, and the speed gradually
crept up.  Absolutely no sensation of speed.  Fortunately I
didn't have to slow down rapidly, as I'm sure thar drum brakes
(even if they are 14" drums) would take a long time to have
much of an effect on a car that heavy going that fast.

 o  My Triumph Vitesse on the motorway spur from the M4 to Reading.
Scary - the front of the car was almost lifting off the road.

 o  My current car - a Ford Mustang GT convertible - on route 3
at around 2:00 am, with no other traffic in sight.  That was
in 1986, when the car was new.

RE: OT: Sweet revenge

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Frank,

-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:13 PM

Sounds like you put the kid in his place, Tom!! Congrats on a job well done
.


Of course, I use it with Klipsch speakers, which are very efficient.  Don't
forget, speaker efficiency is a huge part of the equation when it comes to
how loud a stereo can get, and how much work the amp has to do before it
starts to sound strained.

---I started with Boston Acoustics (that are now in the bedroom), but my
main speakers are KG 3.5 which I enjoy.  Very efficient indeed.  I bought
them used from an audio/video store.  I was introduced to Klipsch in El
Paso, Texas - and they were the Horns. Awesome!!!

Finally, the volume control.  I apologize for the following Tom, but I
always laugh when people try to impress me with how good or loud their
stereo is, by saying, "I turn the knob up to 3, and it blasts the windows
out of the walls!  I've never had it above 4, it's so loud".

---The first amplifier I ever bought was a Sony.  Still have it downstairs
in my 'basement'.  One thing I really liked about it was the fact that the
volume control was labeled attenuation and went from infinity to 0.  I do
not recall what is the maximum I have used...  Okay, it is the engineer in
me coming out.  I even took off the cover once I got home to look at the
excellent wiring job they did...

Am I in a contrary mood today, or what?  What's that all about?  

cheers,
frank

Looks like we will have a lot to talk about when we hit GFMtn,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

RE: OT-Drumed out of PDML-was: Lunch with Wendy

[Cesar Matamoros II]

The skinned LXen are fairly recent...  So the count stands at 2 :-)
Not to say that another camera will not fall into that lot...

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 8:19 PM

only the ones with snake skins count.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Cesar Matamoros II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: OT-Drumed out of PDML-was: Lunch with Wendy


> I think I only had two or three LXen at that point :-)

RE: Pentax Sighting

[Cesar Matamoros II]

TV,

I do not recall how many times I have been in there...  I have had some nice
conversations about my LXen in there, from the used department to the new
camera counters.

The one thing I noticed the last time I was there were the Hispanic runners
that seemed to be everywhere.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:50 PM

Drove from DC to NY today with a friend to visit B+H. What a crazy place...

Anyway, I'm walking around looking at stuff, but mostly checking out the
people, when I notice that one of the people is the drummer for The Strokes
(a NY rock band). Hanging off a strap on his shoulder was a K1000.

tv

RE: in da streets

[Albano Garcia]

I take your word ;-)

Albano


--- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Next winter, I swear! 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Albano Garcia
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:42 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: in da streets
> > 
> > 
> > It would be a pleasure to be your guide.
> > Just tell me when you come ;-)
> > Regards
> > 
> > Albano
> > 
> > 
> > --- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Albano Garcia
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This is a self-portrait (I'm the taller at
> left),
> > > with two
> > > > friends in the rough streets of Boedo, in Bs
> As.
> > > 
> > > I really need to take a trip to Bs As.
> > > 
> > > tv
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > =
> > Albano Garcia
> > "El Pibe Asahi"
> > 
> > __
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you
> want.
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> > 
> 


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Re: Too Much PAW

[Paul Stenquist]

Now Tanya, don't be judgmental. You were the first one who admitted to 
fonldling while you photographed 
Seriously, I'm thinking about GFM. It's usually hard for me to get away.
Paul
On Feb 24, 2004, at 9:31 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

OMG, I SO did NOT need to know that!! lol...

Cotty... HELP!!



Paul, you aren't going to be at GFM are you?!?  *eek*!

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Too Much PAW
I sometimes fondle as I photograph. That does make it a lot more fun
.
Paul
(I'm not Cotty:-)
On Feb 23, 2004, at 9:36 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
hehe, the challenge is on!

tan. (who "fondles" AS she photographs)

ps no wise arse comments about "fondling", ok Cotty? hehe.

Re: PAW Pastoral at 420mm

[Mark Cassino]

Very cool shot, John!

- MCC

At 09:46 PM 2/23/2004 -0700, you wrote:
Here's a bit of pastoral color:

http://www.photolin.com/misc/BOT032a.jpg

Taken at the Desert Botanical Gardens in Phoenix, Arizona USA in March
of last year.  We were walking a path through the wildflower area,
then around a blind corner came upon two ladies painting in the shade
a few yards ahead. I had my usual big lens with teleconverter on a
monopod, so that's why the DOF is small and the background is smooth.
Shot for fun, but comments welcome anyway.

--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com
-

Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

-

Re: Too much mail

[Chris Brogden]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Cotty wrote:

> >Who has noticed that the most frequent posts are now from people
> >complaining about too many posts.
>
> I'd like to complain about the people complaining about too many posts.

That's okay, Cotty.  The people responsible for sacking the people who
complained have just been sacked.

chris

Re: Zooms, was Re: 24-50s

[Chris Brogden]

As well as the A28-135/4.  A tank of a lens, but a good performer by most
accounts.

chris


On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Bill Owens wrote:

> Seems to me a 28-105 covers that range quite nicely.
>
> Bill
>
> > What mystifies me about zooms is that there is no 35 to 100 or 120
> > to be had.  That would, seemingly, be a wedding pro's dream zoom.

RE: in da streets

[tom]

Next winter, I swear! 

> -Original Message-
> From: Albano Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: in da streets
> 
> 
> It would be a pleasure to be your guide.
> Just tell me when you come ;-)
> Regards
> 
> Albano
> 
> 
> --- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Albano Garcia
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This is a self-portrait (I'm the taller at left),
> > with two
> > > friends in the rough streets of Boedo, in Bs As.
> > 
> > I really need to take a trip to Bs As.
> > 
> > tv
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =
> Albano Garcia
> "El Pibe Asahi"
> 
> __
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> Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want.
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> 
> 

Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Albano Garcia]

The famous "expose for the shadows, develop for the
highlights"?

Albano

--- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Developing less ... Overexpose and Underdevelop.
> 


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RE: in da streets

[Albano Garcia]

It would be a pleasure to be your guide.
Just tell me when you come ;-)
Regards

Albano


--- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Albano Garcia
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 
> > 
> > This is a self-portrait (I'm the taller at left),
> with two 
> > friends in the rough streets of Boedo, in Bs As.
> 
> I really need to take a trip to Bs As.
> 
> tv
> 
> 


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Re: Zooms, was Re: 24-50s

[Mark Roberts]

"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> What mystifies me about zooms is that there is no 35 to 100 or 120
>> to be had.  That would, seemingly, be a wedding pro's dream zoom.
>
>Seems to me a 28-105 covers that range quite nicely.

Nikon's 24-120 is reportedly a big seller (and very popular with the
wedding shooters). There are a couple of options in the 24-135 range,
too (Sigma, Tamron).
And the Pentax 24-90 is in the ballpark, too :)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: PAW - Tanja

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

Wendy, I am so not into dog portraits, but you do them well.  The lighting
and saturation of this shot is beautiful.  It is incredibly sharp, and the
black backdrop (even with doggy pee! lol) contrasts really nicely with the
reds.  Tanja has a lovely expression too.  As I said, doggy portraits aren't
really my thing, but I do like this one.

BTW, I love your "model's" name!  My name is actually Tanja!  I much prefer
it over boring old "Tanya" (even though they are pronounced the same), but
most Aussies are bordering on being illiterate (well, that is a major
exaggeration and generalisation, but you know what i mean! lol) and I get SO
sick of trying to spell it for people and then having people pronounce it
incorrectly when it is on paper that I just use plain "Tanya".  Tanja is
much more exotic though...

;-)

tan.



-Original Message-
From: wendy beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 6:04 AM
To: pentax-discuss
Subject: PAW - Tanja


I was in two minds whether to put this up. I know it's a bit cheesy but I
restrained myself from going completely over the top.

http://www.muddypawz.net/dog_port/dp_00019.htm

There is some background to this shot (besides the black velour...;-) ). I
had been booked to take a portrait of a lady's Shih-tzu and the resulting
picture would be given as a present for her 9 yr old daughter's birthday.
She then told me about a picture a friend had e-mailed her of a similar dog
complete with tiara and said she liked the idea of "glam". I mentally
cringed, but hey - it's work! I then went away and grabbed a couple of dogs
and started experimenting with stuff and this is what I came up with.
Didn't get to use the set-up with the Shih-tzu in the end as the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thing wouldn't sit still. And it peed on my backdrop. :-(

Wendy
(Tanja wasn't really a willing subject, but suffered in silence, for my art)

Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com

RE: Too Much PAW

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

OMG, I SO did NOT need to know that!! lol...

Cotty... HELP!!



Paul, you aren't going to be at GFM are you?!?  *eek*!

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Too Much PAW


I sometimes fondle as I photograph. That does make it a lot more fun 
.
Paul
(I'm not Cotty:-)
On Feb 23, 2004, at 9:36 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

>
> hehe, the challenge is on!
>
> tan. (who "fondles" AS she photographs)
>
> ps no wise arse comments about "fondling", ok Cotty? hehe.
>

RE: I contributed to a bad thing

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

Actually no too much information for this list...

;-)

I did say "the" bottom Paul, now don't twist my words ya hear! lol...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I contributed to a bad thing


I think a small fairy on your bottom would be most excellent 

On Feb 23, 2004, at 9:25 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

> bugger casual, if you're gonna do it, why not go the whole hog...
>
> ...maybe some fishnet stockings...
>
> ...or some big frilly pink tulle...
>
> no, seriously, I would love to do something purple, maybe with a small 
> fairy
> (my logo) on the bottom...
>
> tan.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: I contributed to a bad thing
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tanya Mayer Photography"
> Subject: RE: I did a bad thing
>
>
>> Ok, so SERIOUSLY here - you know how Cesar had his LX's "skinned"
>  Does
>> anyone know - could you do a similar thing with an *istD???  I
> would love to
>> get something funky and fairygirl-esque done to mine! Where would I
> go, and
>> how would I go about doing such a thing?
>
> I'm thinking just a simple frock, nothing too pretentious.
> Almost casual, if you like.
> Perhaps an ostrich feather hat, or even one of those silly hats that
> the Canadians all seem to wear.
>
> I can't go on.
>
> William Robb
>
>
>

Re: WAY OT - English Sport Cars

[Dan Matyola]

Mine was Mach 2.2 in a Phantom II fighter.

Frits Wüthrich wrote:

My speed record was 1100km/hour in a Boeing 747-400.

Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Frank,

The snow and the sunbather are the two elements that add
some special interest to ~this~ shot, ~this~ visit.

If you recall, I asked if you'd read On Being a
Photographer.  In the book there's a description of just the
sort of situation you encountered, although it was on a
beach in the summer.  The example used was Harry Callahan's
photo, Cape Code, which, like your shot of the lifeguard
station, is a very simple image.  It shows a volleyball net
on the beach with the sea in the background.  Nothing could
be simpler, nor more static.  To many people the impression
might be that Callahan was wandering around, saw the scene,
and made a quick snap.  In reality, by looking at the
contact sheet (something to be said for contact sheets here,
but that's for another time) we find that he shot eleven
frames, all from slightly different angles and perspectives.

Now, I don't know how many frames you exposed on the day you
took this pic.  I don't know if you went to the scene
specifically to photograph the station, or if it just
happened that you ended up there at that time.  I applaud
you going back numerous times to photograph the place. 
That's good.  But, I must ask ... how many frames did you
expose on the day you made this pic?  How many different
angles and positions did you try?  

I took a workshop with Baron Wolman a few years ago, and he
suggested making lots of exposures even if the scene hasn't
changed much.  After the workshop I met Steve Larson and we
went to the santa barbara zoo.  There I saw a man holding
his young son on his back, so the boy could get enough
height to see the elephants marching around in their
compound.  I took the most mundane point of view, from their
back, and shot an entire roll of film of the man and his
son.  Afterwards I made 5x7 proof prints of every frame,
laid them out on the floor so i could see every one of them,
and looked them over.  The differences between each frame,
as you may suspect, were slight - very slight.  A small
movement in a hand, a tilt of the boy's head, the way the
father's fingers interlocked ... you get the idea.

>From that simple exercise of a "nothing" scene, it became
clear that not only were some shots way better than others,
but that there was a decent photograph in the bunch after
all.

OK, on to other things,

Kind Regards from the Depths of Despair,

shel

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> Hi, Shel,
> 
> I think maybe this is one of those situations where the "what ifs" or "next
> time try this" work.  It is, after all, a building, so it ain't going
> anywhere...  
> 
> I had the 24-48 at 24mm on that shot.  Yes, certainly, the sky would look
> much better with a few clouds for "drama".  And, on the 8x10, the young lady
> doesn't look nearly as "lost" as she does on the screen.  I tried to sharpen
> in to make it look more like the print, but then it was over sharpened.
> I've still got to load that Photoshop programme - maybe that will allow me
> to do more with my scans.
> 
> This station is one of those "ongoing" projects - I've got likely got a
> dozen or more shots of it now, and I intend to keep on shooting it.  I
> thought the snow and the woman made this one a ~bit~ more interesting than
> the others - but I'll keep working on it.  I haven't tried a 19mm yet - I'll
> make sure I've got that with me next time!
> 
> Thanks for your comments.  And, thanks Bill for yours too.  Yes, I could
> have moved the camera to the right - there's nothing there preventing me
> from doing that, so I'll keep that in mind next time, too.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist
> fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
> 
> >From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan
> >Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 15:51:50 -0800
> >
> >Frank ...
> >
> >Red filters are neat for darkening the sky, and the added
> >effect when there are clouds present can often take an
> >average or mundane scene and turn it into something
> >dramatic.  Since the lifeguard station will not be moving
> >any time soon (will it?), you might consider returning to
> >try for an even more dramatic shot.
> >
> >The young lady is lost in the photograph, at least on these
> >small monitors and even smaller JPEG's.  I hope she presents
> >herself with a stronger presence in the full sized print.
> >
> >Do you recall what focal length you were using?  I'd think
> >that with a wider lens (you've a 19mm, right?), moving in
> >closer, and a more dramatic sky you'd have a more powerful
> >image.
> >
> >And yeah, I know, this is what you got, and maybe I
> >shouldn't give out with the what-if's, but I really believe
> >that it may be going back to reshoot with some of this in
> >mind.  As it is, the dark sky is just a dark sky ... no
> >impact or drama.

Re: PAW - My Grandaughter

[Shel Belinkoff]

Unfortunately, Paul, the built in flash that one finds on so
many cameras don't allow for those techniques, although some
allow for a different flash intensity.  

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> You have a beautiful granddaughter. The framing and composition are
> nice.  But I think you're a a little heavy with the flash. If you could
> use a softbox adapter, a bounce reflector, or even the ceiling (as a
> reflector), you could achieve much more natural lighting. With this
> shot as it is, I would clone out the flash reflection in the wall and
> perhaps even the extra highlight in the lower part of her eyes. But you
> certainly caught a moment. Congratulations.

Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Shel Belinkoff]

Developing less ... Overexpose and Underdevelop.

frank theriault wrote:
 
> I was having trouble with exposures that day, due to those conditions.  Shel
> suggested WRT another snow shot, that perhaps "pulling" the film to 1/2 it's
> rated speed and developing longer (is that what you said, Shel - I'd
> normally just pull it, and go tell the lab what I did, and let them do their
> "magic" ) might help next time.

RE: in da streets

[tom]

> -Original Message-
> From: Albano Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> This is a self-portrait (I'm the taller at left), with two 
> friends in the rough streets of Boedo, in Bs As.

I really need to take a trip to Bs As.

tv

Re: Too much mail

[Doug Franklin]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:53:20 +, Cotty wrote:

> I'd like to complain about the people complaining about too many posts.

There's a penguin on the telly!
Intercourse the penguin!

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

RE: OT- Timely Recycle, with some edits

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

niiice...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Simon King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 10:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT- Timely Recycle, with some edits


LOL

http://www.photowebs.com/pssf/images/Thornburg/LIGHT%20BULB.jpg
 
Only 26 to go...
Simon


-Original Message-
From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 4:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT- Timely Recycle, with some edits


Q: How many PDML subscribers does it take to change a light bulb?

Re: OT- Timely Recycle, with some edits

[Kenneth Waller]

But the Nikon group could do it better
and the Cannon group could do it quicker.

-Original Message-
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: OT- Timely Recycle, with some edits

On 24/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>> Q: How many PDML subscribers does it take to change a light bulb?
>
>> A: 1,332:
>
>...and one to say 'We don't need no steenkin' light bulbs', and claim
>that it's all about the play of natural light on the cave wall, and
>light bulbs are for people who can't dance to the music of time.

Not to mention the forlorn dozen who impatiently await the release of a
digital lightbulb, claiming disaffection with old-fashioned and costly
electricity



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: USB Definitions (was: Firewired...)

[Rob Studdert]

On 24 Feb 2004 at 18:30, George Sinos wrote:

> A USB 2 label does NOT mean it's faster.  Only compliant with with 2.0 
> spec, which means it could be the slow 1.1.
> 
> Only the USB Hi-Speed label means it's faster.
> 
> Lots more info on the web site.

And in any case it's pretty much academic as the real speed is limited by the 
speed of the peripheral and it's I/O interface and it's usually slower than 
USB2 or Firewire (I run both).



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HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: zooms

[Lon Williamson]

I suppose I should have said "new" 35 to 105.
I just think such a lens might be smaller and lighter than
the 24- or 28- to something lenses.
On 24 Feb 2004 at 18:23, Andre Langevin wrote:

A35-105mm is viewed here as one of the best zoom ever made by Asahi 
while the 35-135 could be one of the worst.

Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Paul Stenquist]

I like this. The red filter was a definite plus. And the woman on the 
deck makes it interesting. In retrospect, you might have swung your 
camera to the right a bit and put the station in the left side of the 
frame. You would have more beach and quite possibly a nicer 
composition. Would I have thought of it in the heat of battle? Hell no. 
But it 's easy to be an after the fact critic. That's what I like about 
PAW. By the way, if it's photo of the week, shouldn't it be POW? Or are 
we too sensitive for that ?
On Feb 24, 2004, at 6:51 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Frank ...

Red filters are neat for darkening the sky, and the added
effect when there are clouds present can often take an
average or mundane scene and turn it into something
dramatic.  Since the lifeguard station will not be moving
any time soon (will it?), you might consider returning to
try for an even more dramatic shot.
The young lady is lost in the photograph, at least on these
small monitors and even smaller JPEG's.  I hope she presents
herself with a stronger presence in the full sized print.
Do you recall what focal length you were using?  I'd think
that with a wider lens (you've a 19mm, right?), moving in
closer, and a more dramatic sky you'd have a more powerful
image.
And yeah, I know, this is what you got, and maybe I
shouldn't give out with the what-if's, but I really believe
that it may be going back to reshoot with some of this in
mind.  As it is, the dark sky is just a dark sky ... no
impact or drama.
shel

frank theriault wrote:
I've been trying to get a decent shot of this lifeguard station at 
Toronto's
Kew Beach for some time now (Toronto has miles of beautiful beaches 
near
downtown, but with the heat of summer, they're always polluted, so we 
can
only look at the pretty water).

This may be the best of the old station I've gotten yet - ironically, 
a
month ago, in the dead of winter.  I like what the red filter does to 
the
sky, and the young lady relaxing on the picnic table adds, I think, I 
touch
of whimsy:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2159925

Please let me know what you think (as always, the print's way better 
than
the scan - oh well...).

Re: PAW - My Grandaughter

[Paul Stenquist]

You have a beautiful granddaughter. The framing and composition are 
nice.  But I think you're a a little heavy with the flash. If you could 
use a softbox adapter, a bounce reflector, or even the ceiling (as a 
reflector), you could achieve much more natural lighting. With this 
shot as it is, I would clone out the flash reflection in the wall and 
perhaps even the extra highlight in the lower part of her eyes. But you 
certainly caught a moment. Congratulations.
On Feb 24, 2004, at 6:45 PM, Larry Hodgson wrote:

Oh my God, I'm going against "The Rules" by providing a link to a 
portrait I
took of my grandaughter, with a non Pentax camera.  I love this shot. 
My
daughter did not want me to take this because her face was dirty after
eating something. Sheesh, isn't this what young kids do? And besides, 
it's
my "duty" to spoil her anyway!!

Oh, I forgot to mention, this was taken with a NIKON ( how's that) 
Coolpix
5700. That was before I had my *istD.

Comments welcome.

http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/65678/1/2285081/Original

Larry from Prescott

RE: OT- Timely Recycle, with some edits

[Simon King]

LOL

http://www.photowebs.com/pssf/images/Thornburg/LIGHT%20BULB.jpg
 
Only 26 to go...
Simon


-Original Message-
From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 4:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT- Timely Recycle, with some edits


Q: How many PDML subscribers does it take to change a light bulb?

Re: Reala rated at 80

[Butch Black]

Boros wrote:


This sounds interesting for capturing shadow detail. But how much should I
overexpose for that? As I understand 1/3 stop is just safe for any film, but
the effect varies. Does somebody know how this works for ordinary Fuji
Superia 100 (not Reala)? And more exactly how much is "a lot" for you? How
far can I go on the safe side?

With all color negative films you could safely overexpose by a stop with no
damage done. On amateur emulsions like Superia you may not see any
advantage.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)

USB Definitions (was: Firewired...)

[George Sinos]

Several people posted confusing definitions of USB and USB Hi-speed.  The 
real story can be found here:



Extremely abbreviated version:

The USB Hi-Speed logo indicates the device "...supports the Hi-Speed USB 
data transfer rate of 480 Mb/s..."

The USB logo is for "...products operating at Original USB speeds (1.5 Mb/s 
or 12 Mb/s )

The USB 2.0 standard includes both.  This was to make 2.0 compatible with 
the older 1.1 devices.  In other words, all other things being equal, your 
old device can be plugged into the faster USB connection on your newer 
computer.

A USB 2 label does NOT mean it's faster.  Only compliant with with 2.0 
spec, which means it could be the slow 1.1.

Only the USB Hi-Speed label means it's faster.

Lots more info on the web site.

See you later, gs

Re: PAW - My first

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, here is my first one.
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/paw.html
> 
> I would be curious as to what you think of this.  It was shot
with a
> Pentax Soft lens and I have gotten strong response

Hi Bruce,

That's a very nice wedding shot. I love the fountain in the
background and so the pose, although the position of the groom's
left hand is not quite right IMHO.

The soft effect does its job; I don't like it in portraits, but
I'm sure there's always room for a couple of soft pictures in a
wedding album. Last time I shot a wedding I decided to try
several pictures (before the ceremony) with a magnifying glass
mounted on a bellows: resulted in a extremely soft 135mm
(approx. f/4.5 - could even cover the 645 frame but I didn't
have a proper adapter) that could be focused from infinity to
very close. The bride really liked those shots.

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[frank theriault]

I'd say around 2 or 2:30 in the afternoon.  As you can see, not a cloud in 
the sky.  Sun very harsh, especially reflected off the snow.

I was having trouble with exposures that day, due to those conditions.  Shel 
suggested WRT another snow shot, that perhaps "pulling" the film to 1/2 it's 
rated speed and developing longer (is that what you said, Shel - I'd 
normally just pull it, and go tell the lab what I did, and let them do their 
"magic" ) might help next time.

Glad you liked it, Norm.

cheers and thanks,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:17:09 -0600
Not bad at all, however it looks like it was shot mid-day? Even with the 
red, IMO, the lighting is a bit harsh.
Norm

frank theriault wrote:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2159925


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RE: I missed something

[frank theriault]

Photo A Week.

A little non-controversial idea that Shel imported from another list.

The idea is that those who wish to can post a photo each week, for our 
general amusement, and if one wishes (by indications in the post) for 
critiqueing and/or comments.

By putting PAW in the subject line, those who don't wish to participate, or 
find that the extra traffic is too much to handle can filter them off, as 
some do with OT threads.

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I missed something
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:04:56 -0500
What's a PAW?
Took me long enough to learn about blogs!
CRB

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Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Norm Baugher]

Not bad at all, however it looks like it was shot mid-day? Even with the 
red, IMO, the lighting is a bit harsh.
Norm

frank theriault wrote:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2159925

RE: Kind of OT: Konica film - Sleeping Bear Dunes

[Butch Black]

Peter wrote:


Many of the store brands, are Konica film, If you have a CVS Drugstore in
the
area, I think they're using Konica.  (It used to be 3m but I haven't seen
any of
that in a couple of years).

It's been more then a couple years. They were using Konica film back in 96
when I was working for them and still are today. 3M became Imation which
became Ferenia. Same film, different name, haven't seen it packaged under
it's own name in a while.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)

Re: GFM info

[frank theriault]

Marnie,

You should come.

-frank

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've been thinking about coming. It's highly unlikely I will. But if I were
remotely to do so, do most of you camp on the mountain?
Marnie aka Doe   I have no idea what plane fares from California run yet.

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Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[frank theriault]

Hi, Shel,

I think maybe this is one of those situations where the "what ifs" or "next 
time try this" work.  It is, after all, a building, so it ain't going 
anywhere...  

I had the 24-48 at 24mm on that shot.  Yes, certainly, the sky would look 
much better with a few clouds for "drama".  And, on the 8x10, the young lady 
doesn't look nearly as "lost" as she does on the screen.  I tried to sharpen 
in to make it look more like the print, but then it was over sharpened.  
I've still got to load that Photoshop programme - maybe that will allow me 
to do more with my scans.

This station is one of those "ongoing" projects - I've got likely got a 
dozen or more shots of it now, and I intend to keep on shooting it.  I 
thought the snow and the woman made this one a ~bit~ more interesting than 
the others - but I'll keep working on it.  I haven't tried a 19mm yet - I'll 
make sure I've got that with me next time!

Thanks for your comments.  And, thanks Bill for yours too.  Yes, I could 
have moved the camera to the right - there's nothing there preventing me 
from doing that, so I'll keep that in mind next time, too.

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 15:51:50 -0800
Frank ...

Red filters are neat for darkening the sky, and the added
effect when there are clouds present can often take an
average or mundane scene and turn it into something
dramatic.  Since the lifeguard station will not be moving
any time soon (will it?), you might consider returning to
try for an even more dramatic shot.
The young lady is lost in the photograph, at least on these
small monitors and even smaller JPEG's.  I hope she presents
herself with a stronger presence in the full sized print.
Do you recall what focal length you were using?  I'd think
that with a wider lens (you've a 19mm, right?), moving in
closer, and a more dramatic sky you'd have a more powerful
image.
And yeah, I know, this is what you got, and maybe I
shouldn't give out with the what-if's, but I really believe
that it may be going back to reshoot with some of this in
mind.  As it is, the dark sky is just a dark sky ... no
impact or drama.
shel
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RE: Kind of OT: Konica film - Sleeping Bear Dunes

[Butch Black]

Glen wrote:

I can't usually find Konica film in or near Baltimore.  I saw it
in western PA though.  And I used to be able to get it one or two
places here.


A lot of house brand film is Konica. CVS's for one. Just make sure you tell
the lab it's Konica film as they use a different ID # and a lot of labs
aren't smart enough to program the house brands in the correct film channel.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)

Re: PAW - My Grandaughter

[Shel Belinkoff]

Well, Larry, as long as there's a Pentax somewhere in your
life, the rules keeper must consider that, and that, had you
had the Pentax with you, you'd have used it instead on the
asterisk brand.  That said, lemme look at the pic ...

what a great looking grand daughter.  The smudge on her chin
really makes the picture come alive.  The flash, however, is
a major distraction, both in its reflection on the wall and
what it's done to her soft skin.  But y'know what, all that
flash stuff aside, it's a great and warm and wonderful
family snap that will provide some nice memories some years
from now, and, I'm sure, great pleasure for grandpa every
time he looks at it ;-))

shel

Larry Hodgson wrote:
> 
> Oh my God, I'm going against "The Rules" by providing a link to a portrait I
> took of my grandaughter, with a non Pentax camera.  I love this shot. My
> daughter did not want me to take this because her face was dirty after
> eating something. Sheesh, isn't this what young kids do? And besides, it's
> my "duty" to spoil her anyway!!
> 
> Oh, I forgot to mention, this was taken with a NIKON ( how's that) Coolpix
> 5700. That was before I had my *istD.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/65678/1/2285081/Original

RE: PAW: Hot Hot Hot

[Butch Black]

I like it. The color and the saturation of the peppers are spot on. Would
like to see a version with the bottles turned so the labels don't show.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)

Re: PAW Pastoral at 420mm

[John Mustarde]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:23:25 -0500, you wrote:

>I think the DOF works very well here.  My favorite PAW so far.
>(Except for my left rear paw, which I'm also very fond of).
>-Lon
>

Thanks so much. 

I would have liked less contrast so the center came out lighter. I may
work with that in PS sometime. The lady filling more of the frame
would have been nice also.  

This was an opportunity shot, and the window of opportunity was maybe
five or ten seconds. No zoom, no time to change lenses, no way to zoom
with my feet because we couldn't stray from the path.  Next time I may
think to bracket.

Overall I really like the colors.  I'll keep my eye out for the
painters and sculptors when they return in the spring. 
Their work is very interesting to watch.  

And they never say " Whatcha doin? Taking Pictures?"...  

--
John Mustarde
www.photolin.com

Re: zooms

[Andre Langevin]

Well, I have repeatedly heard on the PDML that A35-105mm was one of 
the best zooms made by Pentax.  Although optically, not mechanically. 
Some comments (maybe 10) are on Stan Halpin's site.

I have seen very few comments about the A35-135, but I remember it 
was not said it was great.  My opinion on this one may not be well 
informed...

Andre

On 24 Feb 2004 at 18:23, Andre Langevin wrote:

 A35-105mm is viewed here as one of the best zoom ever made by Asahi
 while the 35-135 could be one of the worst.
Where is here and what were they being compared to?

Rob Studdert

Re: Too much mail

[frank theriault]

I'll first address Marnie directly, then make a few general comments WRT 
this thread.

So, Marnie,

Don't leave us.  In fact, you're not allowed to leave.  Not because I say 
so, but because the PDML gods say so.  You're spiritually a member, 
regardless of whether you have any Px equipment or not.  Seriously, I 
truly enjoy and appreciate your contributions to the list, and it would be 
ashamed to lose a valuable member.

General comments:

I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but I don't think that anyone 
said that we should get rid of OT, or GFM, or Digitalk, or whatever.  I 
think what may have been suggested, is that if list traffic is too high, 
that these sorts of things are just as "list clogging" as anything else, so 
why pick on PAW specifically.  Yes, our wonderfully tangential OT 
discussions are what "makes" this list.  It's how we ~really~ get to know 
each other, and it's in large part how we've become such a close knit 
community.  BUT, if list traffic is high, these rather longish OT threads a 
a large part of it.  It's ironic that so many have suggested restrictions on 
PAW, which is peripherally related to the "raison d'etre" of the list, while 
mostly leaving OT ramblings alone.

Should PAW be Pentax only?

Why?  I have lots and lots of Pentax photos.  I have lots and lots of 
non-Pentax photos.  If I choose to post one photo a week, it's going to jam 
the list just as much no matter what type of camera it was taken with.  
Restricting the equipment will have no impact on traffic, only on what I 
choose.  I totally respect the fact that PUG has such restrictions.  Those 
are the rules.  PUG is largely for "outsiders" to see what we do with our 
Pentax equipment.  But PAW is informal.  It's (I think) about us as 
photographers, not just as Pentax photographers.  It's not just about me 
posting photos, it's about me critiqueing photos.

Now (and I feel very strongly about this), since this is an unmoderated 
list, we can post as many photos as we want.  There is no consensus 
necessary as to what I can post.  That being said, out of respect for the 
list, I'm more than happy to limit my PAW posting to one a week.  I think if 
everyone else does that, PAW traffic will calm down a bit, as some have been 
posting much more than one a week so far - to be expected due to the success 
of this venture.  If anything "special" comes up (like the Ice Race 
yesterday - more photos to come later ) I may post something extra, but 
that would be unusual.

As for the suggestion that PAWs only be posted on Friday, well, firstly, see 
above re: unmoderated list.  But, I think that if they're limited to Friday, 
there'll be a huge bulge in traffic that day.  Wouldn't it be better to let 
it dribble in during the week, to spread it out?  It would be much less 
obtrusive then, I think.

As I've said to others off-list, I think that the PAW volume will calm down 
a bit over time.  Firstly, we won't have the big bulge we had over the 
weekend, immediately after the suggestion was made, it will be spread out.  
Secondly, I think it likely that as the novelty wears off, we won't see 
everyone posting every week.

I think if we give this time, all the kinks will work out.

I like PAW, and I hope we can keep it going.  Thanks for your indulgence for 
this longish (for me) post.

cheers,
frank


"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Too much mail
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:44:05 EST

Well, if you limit it to Pentax equipment, I cannot participate. And maybe 
I
should drop off the list completely since I no longer have any Pentax
equipment and will probably not be getting some. Or getting some any time 
soon.

But I do think PAWs ought to be limited to one photograph a week per 
person,
since it's called "Photograph of the Week."

Whatever Doug decides, I guess.

Personally I like the PAWs a great deal. And I think the overwhelming
response indicates others do as well. It's a nice counter balance to all 
the
technical talk.

Threads like OT English cars I can live without, ergo, I delete them.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Shel Belinkoff]

Frank ...

Red filters are neat for darkening the sky, and the added
effect when there are clouds present can often take an
average or mundane scene and turn it into something
dramatic.  Since the lifeguard station will not be moving
any time soon (will it?), you might consider returning to
try for an even more dramatic shot.

The young lady is lost in the photograph, at least on these
small monitors and even smaller JPEG's.  I hope she presents
herself with a stronger presence in the full sized print.

Do you recall what focal length you were using?  I'd think
that with a wider lens (you've a 19mm, right?), moving in
closer, and a more dramatic sky you'd have a more powerful
image.

And yeah, I know, this is what you got, and maybe I
shouldn't give out with the what-if's, but I really believe
that it may be going back to reshoot with some of this in
mind.  As it is, the dark sky is just a dark sky ... no
impact or drama.

shel

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> I've been trying to get a decent shot of this lifeguard station at Toronto's
> Kew Beach for some time now (Toronto has miles of beautiful beaches near
> downtown, but with the heat of summer, they're always polluted, so we can
> only look at the pretty water).
> 
> This may be the best of the old station I've gotten yet - ironically, a
> month ago, in the dead of winter.  I like what the red filter does to the
> sky, and the young lady relaxing on the picnic table adds, I think, I touch
> of whimsy:
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2159925
> 
> Please let me know what you think (as always, the print's way better than
> the scan - oh well...).

PAW - My Grandaughter

[Larry Hodgson]

Oh my God, I'm going against "The Rules" by providing a link to a portrait I
took of my grandaughter, with a non Pentax camera.  I love this shot. My
daughter did not want me to take this because her face was dirty after
eating something. Sheesh, isn't this what young kids do? And besides, it's
my "duty" to spoil her anyway!!

Oh, I forgot to mention, this was taken with a NIKON ( how's that) Coolpix
5700. That was before I had my *istD.

Comments welcome.

http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/65678/1/2285081/Original

Larry from Prescott

Re: Digital - has it changed your photography?

[Rob Studdert]

On 24 Feb 2004 at 18:35, zoomshot wrote:

> What about you lot?

It's reduced my apprehension over labs mishandling my 35mm films to nil for a 
start :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: zooms

[Rob Studdert]

On 24 Feb 2004 at 18:23, Andre Langevin wrote:

> A35-105mm is viewed here as one of the best zoom ever made by Asahi 
> while the 35-135 could be one of the worst.

Where is here and what were they being compared to?


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: zooms

[Andre Langevin]

 > What mystifies me about zooms is that there is no 35 to 100 or 120
 to be had.  That would, seemingly, be a wedding pro's dream zoom.
There was an A 35-105/3.5, an F 35-105/4-5.6 (a 105 f/5.6!??), and an A
and F 35-135/3.5-4.5.  KEH.com has them used, and quite cheap.
DJE
A35-105mm is viewed here as one of the best zoom ever made by Asahi 
while the 35-135 could be one of the worst.

I remember a friend who asked me a way to have wide-angle and 200mm 
in the same lens.  Easy answer, 28-200mm.  He changed his normal 
(50/2) for the zoom and then found the quality unacceptable, 
especially at 200mm.  How come, he asked. Easy answer:  you asked for 
too much.  Long range AND quality.

The 24-90mm is the best long range zoom I've seen and it comes at a 
price.  M24-35 was the first very good real WA zoom by Pentax and it 
had only a 1.5X range!

Andre

RE: Kind of OT: Konica film - Sleeping Bear Dunes

[Butch Black]

I actually like Konica film. Just make sure your local lab's channel for it
is balanced well. Like Agfa, Konica's color balance changes noticeably when
they update their film (new emulsion) so it's somewhat more difficult to
keep their channels printing well.

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)

Re: Photoshop CS RAW Converter

[Peter Loveday]

> Has anyone developed an adaptive decoder using a combination of algorithms
as
> yet?

Not that I specifically know of... hard to say, though.

Neither Canon or Nikon really say what they do.  But its certainly quite
good; I expect its adaptive... especially given how slow it is.

There was that SharpRaw thing that used some neural interpolator, which I
suppose was adaptive in some fashion... but it was even worse than dcraw.

Love, Light and Peace,
- Peter Loveday
Director of Development, eyeon Software

zooms

[edwin]

> What mystifies me about zooms is that there is no 35 to 100 or 120
> to be had.  That would, seemingly, be a wedding pro's dream zoom.

There was an A 35-105/3.5, an F 35-105/4-5.6 (a 105 f/5.6!??), and an A 
and F 35-135/3.5-4.5.  KEH.com has them used, and quite cheap.
 
DJE

Re: Photoshop CS RAW Converter

[Rob Studdert]

On 25 Feb 2004 at 9:31, Peter Loveday wrote:

> > the documentation says that it is an adaptive slope algorithm called
> > variable gradients. if it isn't, then you should look at the paper
> > referenced from his site that shows the results and see if that is what he
> > really implemented.
> 
> Yep it is, as we said, it uses the VNG ("Variable Nunber of Gradients")
> algorithm. This is a relatively well established technique.

Has anyone developed an adaptive decoder using a combination of algorithms as 
yet?




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HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Photoshop CS RAW Converter

[Peter Loveday]

> the documentation says that it is an adaptive slope algorithm called
> variable gradients. if it isn't, then you should look at the paper
> referenced from his site that shows the results and see if that is what he
> really implemented.

Yep it is, as we said, it uses the VNG ("Variable Nunber of Gradients")
algorithm. This is a relatively well established technique.

Love, Light and Peace,
- Peter Loveday
Director of Development, eyeon Software

Re: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan

[Bill Owens]

I like it, but would it have been possible to move the camera position to
the right? That would have made the houses in the background less obvious
and give the ramp on the porch somewhere to go

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:52 PM
Subject: PAW week #2 - A Canadian Tan


> I've been trying to get a decent shot of this lifeguard station at
Toronto's
> Kew Beach for some time now (Toronto has miles of beautiful beaches near
> downtown, but with the heat of summer, they're always polluted, so we can
> only look at the pretty water).
>
> This may be the best of the old station I've gotten yet - ironically, a
> month ago, in the dead of winter.  I like what the red filter does to the
> sky, and the young lady relaxing on the picnic table adds, I think, I
touch
> of whimsy:
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2159925
>
> Please let me know what you think (as always, the print's way better than
> the scan - oh well...).
>
> thanks,
> frank
>
> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The
pessimist
> fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
>
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